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Speaker 2: they were both pretty bad losses. The one in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of like a textbook NBA track game, right,

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Speaker 2: He gets like a little mid range jumper along the baseline.

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Speaker 2: Grayson Allen double teamed right and Steph Curry's not even

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Speaker 2: Hilarious because you've got Jordan Goodwin who's hugged up to

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Speaker 2: sixty nine percent true shot shooting, forty eight percent from

431
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Speaker 2: three on four point four three point attempts per game,

432
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 2: doing a ton of damage on spot ups and especially

433
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 2: in transition trailing the play. The spot up situations kind

434
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: of like what you saw in that final possession is

435
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 2: a great example. And then in the post, he's run

436
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,239
Speaker 2: thirty post ups to start the year, and he's been

437
00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 2: getting a one to seventeen offensive rating on his post

438
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 2: ups including passes. Very much looking like a guy who's

439
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 2: in a contract year that wants to get paid one

440
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 2: more time, he's ooping his ass off. He is thirty

441
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: five years old, so I'm sure that will play a

442
00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:35,159
Speaker 2: role in those contract negotiations come come into the equation.

443
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 2: But he's playing some great basketball to start this year,

444
00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,199
Speaker 2: and you know, the Bulls are just getting a lot

445
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,639
Speaker 2: of their success out of playing at an insane pace

446
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 2: in transition some really high three high level three point

447
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: shooting and clutch play right that transition piece, it just

448
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 2: requires so much effort on defense and running the floor

449
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: that when they look flat, like in that first half

450
00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 2: last night or in the second against the Knicks as

451
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,880
Speaker 2: another example, it can come apart for them because they're

452
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 2: not an the elite half court team at least to

453
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: start this season, right, But when they are playing at

454
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: a high intensity, it's really hard to keep up with

455
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,360
Speaker 2: them and how fast they run up and down the floor.

456
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 2: But the reality is, as we know, teams will start

457
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 2: to scout that they'll be prepared for that transition attack.

458
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 2: The three point shooting will come down a bit that

459
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 2: will put a heavier strain on their half court units

460
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,040
Speaker 2: on both ends of the floor, and that's when we'll

461
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: get a better feel for just how good.

462
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 1: This Bulls team.

463
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, over on hard Rock Bet, the

464
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 2: Bulls are currently plus three thousand to win the East.

465
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: That is the tenth best line in the conference. I

466
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,199
Speaker 2: thought that was super interesting. I don't think they're going

467
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: to finish the years the one seed or anything like that,

468
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 2: but tenth best odds is an interesting value bet, and again,

469
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 2: all of our lines are provided by hard Rock Bet. Now,

470
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 2: on the Sixers front, I was honestly super impressed by

471
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,439
Speaker 2: them in the first half. I thought Embiid and Maxi

472
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 2: just tried to do too much down the stretch and

473
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 2: they kind of gassed themselves out, like a basic kind

474
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 2: of balance. To explain this to you, guys, those guys

475
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,239
Speaker 2: took twenty six shots in the second half and the

476
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 2: rest of the team took only nineteen in.

477
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: The first half. There was better balance.

478
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 2: Those two guys took twenty one shots and the rest

479
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: of the team took twenty eight shots. And I thought,

480
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 2: especially down the stretch, they just kind of hero balled,

481
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 2: and you know, they were both cold on their jumpers

482
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: and no one else was in any kind of rhythm. Again,

483
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,960
Speaker 2: Quentin Grimes gets that wide open look late, but that

484
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,159
Speaker 2: was like the only shot attempt he got down the

485
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 2: stretch of that game. I also just thought they looked exhausted.

486
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: They weren't getting the lift they needed on those jump shots,

487
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,399
Speaker 2: and that's something that can happen when there's not a

488
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: lot of variety and you're just playing a lot of

489
00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 2: that one on one, it's seventy five points in the

490
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,160
Speaker 2: first half and just thirty six points in the second half.

491
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:47,879
Speaker 2: I think that was just like a weird kind of

492
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 2: like step back for them offensively in terms of their

493
00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 2: ball movement and like they're driving kick attack compared to

494
00:23:54,320 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: what they were doing earlier in the season. All right,

495
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 2: So the thunder in their late game run against the Clippers,

496
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,840
Speaker 2: the Clippers controlled the first two thirds of that game

497
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 2: or so, James Harden was excellent.

498
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 1: They were shooting the ball really well as a team.

499
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: They got one.

500
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 2: Point six y nine points per catch and shoot jump

501
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: shot in the first half. But Oklahoma City closes the

502
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: game on a sixty one to thirty seven run to

503
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 2: go up by as much as twenty five before winning

504
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: the game by nineteen. It got sparked by a couple

505
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 2: of those classic like defense to transition sequences, So like

506
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: Alex Cruz, So they were running this like little cross

507
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 2: screen for Zubots to try to get him in the

508
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: post on the block, and you run the cross screen

509
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,399
Speaker 2: essentially to either force a switch so Zubots gets a

510
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 2: smaller defender to post up, or if you're going to trail,

511
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 2: so if that guy like fights over the top of

512
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: the screen, Zubots now gets deep post position because instead

513
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: of having to back that guy down close to the basket,

514
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: he's already trailing him on his back side, so he

515
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 2: just runs over to the block and wherever he stops,

516
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: as long as he holds his ground, he's going to

517
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 2: get a good.

518
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,879
Speaker 1: Deep post catch, right well.

519
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 2: Crusoe spent a good amount of time in the second

520
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 2: half on Chris Dunn where he was able to roam

521
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,160
Speaker 2: and do a bunch of damage, and then the rest

522
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 2: of the time he's on James Harden. Did a really

523
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,919
Speaker 2: good job on James Harden as well, but on the

524
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 2: possessions with Chris Donn, he was doing a lot of

525
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 2: stunting off of him and just kind of being a

526
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 2: disruptive roamer, and he sparked the run the first play

527
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,239
Speaker 2: on that sixty one to thirty seven run, he ends

528
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: up peeling off of Chris Dunn as Zubots breaks open

529
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 2: on that little cross screen and he jumps back and

530
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: ends up deflecting the post entry pass that ends up

531
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 2: running out the other way for a Crusoe layup on

532
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: the other end of the floor. Then Chet gets in

533
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 2: on the action. He gets two great contests, one on

534
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: a hard end floater where he steps up late, and

535
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 2: then another one on a Zubot's offensive rebound attempt as

536
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: he left Zubots to make the contest. Zoo got the rebound,

537
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 2: but he recovered and got a great contest on Zoo

538
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 2: and forced another miss case on Wallace pays it off

539
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 2: with a big driving layup and trainransition the other way.

540
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: So stop turn or turnover, layup, stop layup, classic thunder

541
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 2: defensive transition sequences that got the lead down from five

542
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 2: to one. And by the way, I want to shout

543
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 2: out Chet here because like Zoo won a lot of

544
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 2: battles on the glass in that game. I think he

545
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,479
Speaker 2: had four offensive rebounds, but Chet was battling with him,

546
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: and as a team they were doing a great job

547
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 2: of like gang rebounding in those situations and they won

548
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 2: some battles and Chet got some big defensive rebounds during

549
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 2: that third quarter run. Then Shay goes on a little run.

550
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 2: He attacks Harden in a guard guard screen. Harden defends

551
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: it like shit. Shae gets a wide open layup, he

552
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 2: gets Batoom in a guard guard screen hits him with

553
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 2: a quick dribble combination, hits a step back three over

554
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: the top. All of a sudden, Oklahoma City's up four.

555
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: The momentum is shifted. Clippers up five. Now the Thunder

556
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 2: are up four. He attacks Zu Bots in a ball screen,

557
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 2: makes a beautiful spin move over his left shoulder and

558
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 2: makes a kickout to Aaron Wiggins on the right wing.

559
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 2: He hits a three bang right Bogdan Bogdanovich with a

560
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: quick couple of scissor dribbles right to left, gets to

561
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: the basket for a layup. The run is starting to

562
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: gain a ton of momentum. Now right Isaiah Joe comes

563
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 2: in and hits a couple of threes, one off the dribble,

564
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: one off of a skip pass. Shay hits another pull

565
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,119
Speaker 2: up three over Malcolm brogged into or over Bogdan Bogdanovitch

566
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 2: excuse me to end the third quarter. All of a sudden,

567
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 2: the Thunder are up by eight going into the fourth quarter,

568
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 2: and it could have been worse too. Brook Lopez hit

569
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: a couple of bombs against pretty good contests, one against

570
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 2: jay Lynn Williams, who came in and got a great

571
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,080
Speaker 2: contest on a Brook Lopez three at the top of

572
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: the key just hit a tough shot and then another

573
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: one where he pumped fake to get the defender off

574
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: his feet knock down a shot. Otherwise, the thunder could

575
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,679
Speaker 2: have been in big time control before we got to

576
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, but in that fourth quarter the thunder

577
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 2: just completely slammed the door shut. Crusoe and Hartenstein combined

578
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: for like a classic like Steph Curry action, like they

579
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 2: looked like Steph Curry and Draymond Green, where Crusoe's cutting

580
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: along the baseline. Hartenstein gets the ball and just throws

581
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,879
Speaker 2: like a between the legs pass backwards to Crusoe running

582
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 2: out to the corner, and Cruso just running out to

583
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 2: his left side right left footwork just rises up and

584
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: knocks down the three like the spitting image of that

585
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: classic Golden State Warriors action. Thunder up by eleven, AJ

586
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 2: Mitchell gets a put back chet Holmgren hits a right

587
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: shoulder fade over the top of Brook. All of a sudden,

588
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: it's thunder by fifteen. And then at this point in

589
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: the middle of the earl ish kind of early third

590
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: of the fourth quarter, with a thunder up by fifteen,

591
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: AJ Mitchell came in and just utterly closed the game

592
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,120
Speaker 2: with excellent pick and roll shot creation over and over

593
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: and over again, just putting the clippers in the blender,

594
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 2: scoring the ball and making great reads as he blows

595
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 2: the game open. Starts with a drop coverage look, he

596
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 2: attacks the big gets a left handed layup, so as

597
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: a result, the very next possession, brook Lopez wants to

598
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: step out higher, why so that he can stop aj

599
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: Mitch from getting ahead of Steam going towards the basket.

600
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: That opens the short roll past to Hartenstein. Hartenstein sees

601
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Chet cutting along the baseline, perfect lob dunk that's created

602
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: by the lefty layup by AJ Mitchell that forced brook

603
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 2: Lopez to try to stop his momentum further away from

604
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 2: the basket. Now the thunder are up. By nineteen, he

605
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: had another one where he comes screaming down the lane

606
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: in a ball screen and he smokes a layup, but

607
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: he occupies brook Lopez as the rim protector. That leaves

608
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: Hartenstein a runway to just come in right behind him

609
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 2: and get an offensive rebound put back. We even got

610
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 2: a little Chet Isaiah Hartenstein two man game mixed in

611
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: here where Chet gets the ball screen from hart and

612
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 2: Sign and Chet returns the favor with a beautiful little

613
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 2: lobb to Hartenstein over the top. It's just an avalanche.

614
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 2: It's like bucket after bucket after bucket. Another aj Mitchell

615
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: ball screen where Lopez comes high on the at the

616
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 2: level coverage that forces James Harden to tag Isaiah Hartenstein

617
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: on the roll kick back to Chet on the pop

618
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: extra pass to Aaron Wiggins wide open on the left

619
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: wing because Harden went to tag the roller wide open three.

620
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: Once again.

621
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: Aj Mitchell's scoring twice in the early fourth quarter. He

622
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 2: gets ahead of Steam on the ball screen. If you

623
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,600
Speaker 2: let him get over the top and you give him

624
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 2: a runway, he's so damn fast. He just explodes off

625
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: that right leg and he finishes with his left hand right.

626
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 2: They got two easy buckets like that. That forces the

627
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: big to come up to the level. As soon as

628
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 2: the big comes up to the level, you're defending the

629
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: action three on two. Now Now it's just about making

630
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 2: the reads and it's like easy, little tic tac toe

631
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 2: Hartenstein to Chet on the lob dunk, easy to little

632
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 2: tic tac toe, toss back to Chet on the pop,

633
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 2: extra pass to Wiggins on the left wing, wide open three.

634
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: That goes in.

635
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: It was just an absolute avalanche, and then aj closes it.

636
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 2: They're up twenty two. He gets a ball screen off

637
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,719
Speaker 2: the left side, same exact thing at the level tag

638
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: beautiful cross court lefty skip pass that hits Isaiah Joe

639
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 2: right in the shooting pocket the right corner. He knocks

640
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: it down and now the Thunder are up by twenty five.

641
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: It was just an avalanche. They never stopped defending at

642
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: that crazy chaos causing level. And you can handle it

643
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: for a time, But how many games have we seen

644
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: like that with the Thunder where it's like teams are

645
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 2: hanging with them for like twenty four minutes, maybe for

646
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: thirty minutes, but then right around that, like mid to

647
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,479
Speaker 2: late third quarter, it's just that onslot for the Thunder

648
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 2: just gets too much. The other team starts to let

649
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: go of the rope a little bit, and next thing

650
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, they're up twenty five. It happens all the time.

651
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 2: It happened dozens of times last year. And they're just

652
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: playing beautiful offense right now, Shay's playing like an MVP.

653
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: I continue to be blown away by the level of

654
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 2: offense that they're getting from their deeper bench. Since JDub

655
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: has been out like AJ Mitchell was downright surgical and

656
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: pick and roll down the stretch. As we broke down

657
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 2: in detail, you have guys like Aaron Wiggins who are

658
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: hitting shots and Isaiah Joe since he's come back, has

659
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: been a godsend in terms of their spacing. Chet and

660
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: Isaiah Hartenstein have just such brilliant I low chemistry on

661
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: their lobs. They read each other in the middle of

662
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: the floor and on the baseline so well, and they're

663
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: obviously going to do so much damage to you and

664
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: transition off of their stops eight to no to start

665
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,479
Speaker 2: the year looking like an absolute juggernaut. And you know,

666
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: I was frustrated when I heard that Kawhi was out

667
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: because the Thunder had played a light schedule last week

668
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: and I just wanted to see them challenged. I wanted

669
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: to get another look at them against a good team.

670
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: And here's the thing, this is just what the Thunder do.

671
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: Like they're Superstar and Shaye, he never misses a game.

672
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: He's one of the most reliable guys in the league.

673
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: And then as a team they win the war of attrition.

674
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: We talked about this in the Lakers segment yesterday. But

675
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: when I see teams that start to rack up wins

676
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 2: when main guys are out of the lineup, it's always

677
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: evidence for me of depth of talent in strong basketball culture.

678
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: And there's a clear depth of talent as we're seeing

679
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: guys like Isaiah Joe and Aaron Wiggins and aj Mitchell

680
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: slide into bigger offensive roles and chet and Isaiah Hartenstein

681
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: in their read and react in the middle of the floor,

682
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: just giving them another level on offense that you didn't

683
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 2: see a couple of years ago. Right like that is

684
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 2: the depth of talent the strong basketball culture is the Hey,

685
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: we're down our second best player, but we're a kick

686
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 2: ass defensive team, and we're gonna play this way every

687
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: single night, every single possession. And you might be able

688
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: to keep up with it for a little while, but

689
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 2: the minute you let go of the rope, we're gonna

690
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: blow the game open. I mean, they're eight to zero

691
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: and they've been down their second best player all season.

692
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 2: They've just been looking like the best team in the

693
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: league by far. To start this campaign, right before we

694
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: get out of here today, I want to talk about

695
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: this Steph interview with Lebron. I had several little takeaways.

696
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: First of all, I want to shout out Lebron because,

697
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,719
Speaker 2: like you would think in a situation like that, Lebron

698
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 2: is just he's very much the center of attention type

699
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: of personality. To Lebron's credit, I thought he did a

700
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 2: good job of backing the hell off and just letting

701
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 2: Steph run the interview like that. Everyone's there to see Steph.

702
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 2: This is your podcast. You're gonna have plenty of opportunity

703
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 2: to talk in other situations. Lebron just kind of backed off.

704
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,120
Speaker 2: Steve Nash did a wonderful job just kind of queuing

705
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: up questions and Lebron like popped in here and then

706
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 2: to offer his perspective. But it was very focused on

707
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: Steph and his upbringing, his basketball development, his basketball philosophies,

708
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 2: and honestly, one of the biggest things that stood out

709
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: to me, Steph is just a remarkably smart dude. He's

710
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: a great speaker, He's great at explaining his basketball philosophy.

711
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: I found it to just be like, very easy to

712
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 2: listen to and very easy to understand how he feels

713
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 2: about the game. There were so many interesting things that

714
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: he dug into. I loved when he started talking about

715
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: his body and the work that he put in behind

716
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: the scenes to essentially build out all the elements of

717
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 2: strength training to facilitate his style of play. He kept

718
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 2: talking about this idea of building the chain, and like

719
00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: I talk about shooting with the concept of energy transfer, right,

720
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 2: this idea of like there's a power you push down

721
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: on the floor with your feet right as you're jumping,

722
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 2: but there is a chain of energy that goes all

723
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 2: the way from your ankles to your knees, to your hips,

724
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: to your core, all the way up through your shoulders.

725
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: That that is the transfer of energy through to the

726
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: top of your shot. And any power that you lose

727
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: in that chain puts extra stress on the top of

728
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: your shot, and then it gets harder for muscle memory.

729
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 2: When the muscle memory can be very easy and light,

730
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: it's easy to replicate it, right, But when you lose

731
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: energy up the chain, that's what forces it to be

732
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: a higher stress shot at the top.

733
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: Of the shot.

734
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 2: And it's one of those things where like I just

735
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 2: loved hearing him break down like all the specific details.

736
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,920
Speaker 2: He specifically emphasized core, which I thought was really interesting.

737
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: He kind of was talking about like that kind of

738
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: popping of the hips that occurs on most basketball movements

739
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: and the idea that like that is an area where

740
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: a lot of players lose power. And I just thought

741
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 2: it was a really interesting breakdown of the weight room

742
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: because the weight room is like something that we've talked

743
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 2: about this on the show, Like, I think it's one

744
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: of the most underrated elements basketball development. Basketball is contact sport,

745
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: and you're dealing with physicality in every phase, whether you're

746
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:17,800
Speaker 2: setting screens, fighting through screens, fighting to get open, driving

747
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: to the basket and winning that leverage battle and drives,

748
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: boxing out for rebounds.

749
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Speaker 1: We can go on and on.

750
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: There's a million different ways that strength plays a role,

751
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: but one of the biggest ones that we talked about

752
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 2: is your base on your shot. You're like Steph talked

753
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: a lot about this, not in this particular interview, but

754
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: in previous interviews. About the summer of twenty fifteen, after

755
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: having won the title and should have one finals MVP.

756
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 2: In that summer, he dramatically increased his leg strength and

757
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 2: he experienced like a six point per game leap in

758
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 2: his scoring average literally from like strength from increasing the

759
00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: strength of his base. That is the when you're sprinting

760
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 2: full speed and you stop on a dime and rise up.

761
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: It is all leg strength and footwork that is what

762
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: allows you to get into your shots. Steph's superpower, right

763
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: is his jump shot. It's when Steph is open. Ever

764
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: since the Davidson days, that shit's going in. And so

765
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 2: the battle is how do you get the amount of

766
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 2: shots that you need? And actually thought he did an

767
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: interesting job talking about how like h with Bob Myers

768
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: coming up to him and being like, hey, like, I

769
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: think we should get you up to fifteen threes per game,

770
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: and like Steph's initial reaction was kind of like damn,

771
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Like you know how hard it is to get fifteen

772
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: threes up in a game? And He's right. The point

773
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 2: is is like when you're a shooter and they're guarding

774
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: you like a shooter, You're not just open fifteen times

775
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 2: a game. It's not like, oh, I'm gonna get my

776
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 2: eighteen shots, I might as well make fifteen of them threes. No,

777
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: you gotta get open fifteen times for decent quality three

778
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: point shots. And that is all in that leg strength,

779
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 2: that chain that Steph is talking about the ability to

780
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: move and then to stop at any point in time

781
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,799
Speaker 2: and rise up and shoot. There's other elements to it, right,

782
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 2: Like we're gonna talk about the offense in a minute,

783
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 2: the ball handling piece, the fluidity of connecting your dribble

784
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 2: to your shot. There's obviously a lot more that goes

785
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: into it. But I just thought all the stuff that

786
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: Steph was talking about with building the chain physically to

787
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: be an elite shooter was just a you think of

788
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: shooting as being like, oh, let's just go shoot a

789
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 2: thousand shots a day, and I'm not gonna sit here

790
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: and pretend like that's not the case. Like you've got

791
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: to put in the work behind the scenes. But there

792
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: is a huge, like body building element to it that

793
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: I think is under discussed, and I really enjoyed him

794
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: breaking that down. I loved the bit that he talked

795
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: about was Steve Kerr's offense, So he essentially talked about

796
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: that transition from you know, they win fifty games with

797
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: Mark Jackson summer of twenty fourteen, they end up bringing

798
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 2: in Steve Kerr. And one of the things that Steve

799
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 2: Kerr that Stephan said that Steve Kerr said to him

800
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 2: when he was kind of holding out the initial offense

801
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:03,919
Speaker 2: was the idea of he was like, I just want

802
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: to make the defense make a ton of decisions on

803
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 2: every single possession. And of course, my ears, those of

804
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: you guys who have listened to the show over the years,

805
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: you know that's a concept that we talked about all

806
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 2: the time. My ears immediately perked up because I was like,

807
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 2: that's super fascinating, because talk about being ahead of your time.

808
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: This has been something that I've been keyed in a

809
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 2: lot over the last years. Twenty fourteen is eleven years ago.

810
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 2: Like Steve Kerr was so ahead of the curve with

811
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 2: his like basketball philosophy in the idea of generating good

812
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: shots through essentially making a defense make a ton of

813
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 2: decisions on every single possession. So, for instance, like if

814
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 2: you're running, let's just look at the two like most

815
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 2: dramatic opposite examples. Right, So we have the Steph Curry

816
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors ball and player movement offense, and then

817
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 2: we've got like the Luca don chicch spread pick and

818
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: roll offense. Now there's a lot more complications in the

819
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: Lakers version of it, but if you go back to like,

820
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: you know, twenty twenty two or twenty twenty four, where

821
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 2: it's like a lot of like just spread, pick and

822
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: roll type of stuff with Luca. It's there's not a

823
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: lot of decisions being made on the possession right, like

824
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: the balls getting brought out the floor. It's very brute force.

825
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: It's can you guard Luca in this one coverage or

826
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 2: in this one on one right, Like there's you know,

827
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: at the level, there's deeper drop, there's blitz, there's switch,

828
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 2: and in each of those four, you're essentially like removing

829
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: decision making and putting all of it on the job

830
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: of Luca. To beat that coverage like deeper drop, he's

831
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: got to go hit mid range jump shots right against that.

832
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: As the defender gets trapped on a side, he works

833
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: him into the lane, hits those little floaters right higher

834
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: drop or blitz. It's gonna be the short role. You're

835
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: hitting the guy in the pocket. Now we're playing four

836
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: on three out of that right the switch.

837
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: Now we're.

838
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: Get giving a big an opportunity to guard Luka Danci

839
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 2: John an island, or a small guard an opportunity to

840
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: guard Luka Dancijohn an island. The lack of ball in

841
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: player movement removes a lot of the decision making. The

842
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: guys who are off the ball have pretty basic roles

843
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: right that each of them have a help and recover

844
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: responsibility depending on which spot they are in that shell

845
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 2: drill right. Then you flip the script to the Golden

846
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: State Warriors offense and it starts with pace.

847
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: Right.

848
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 2: You're playing the ball up the floor quickly early in

849
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: the shot clock, and then there's multiple interchanges. Steph made

850
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 2: this like really simple example. He was like, He's like,

851
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: let's say that there's a guy who gets a kickout

852
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 2: three on the right wing out of like one action.

853
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: So just imagine a guy rips from the left wing,

854
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: nail help from the right wing, swing pass guy takes

855
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 2: a three. Steph was like, that's not the same as

856
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 2: the exact same shot that comes out of a possession

857
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 2: where the balls already switched sides of the floor two

858
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: or three times. There's a rhythm that from people touching

859
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: the basketball. There are upsides to getting deeper into the

860
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: possession and making them guard multiple actions above and beyond

861
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 2: the rhythm part. Over the course of that, you present

862
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: all of these opportunities for someone to mess up. If

863
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: Steph runs off of five screens in a possession and

864
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 2: you defend the first three really well, you switch them properly,

865
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 2: or you stay attached physically and have help on any

866
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: sort of back cut, and then all of a sudden,

867
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: on the fourth one, two guys run with Steph. Someone

868
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 2: messed up. Now someone's wide open on the slip, and

869
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 2: someone's getting a wide open shot. A perfect example last

870
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: night is Steph running off of that wide pin down

871
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: from Draymond. Draymond slips into the open space, then he

872
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: throws the behind the head pass to Moses Moody in

873
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 2: the corner. That's a mistake that comes from the ball

874
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: and player movement that forces a defense to make so

875
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: many decisions on each possession. And when I heard that,

876
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: I was just like, of course, Steve or was on

877
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 2: top of this concept, like way back in the summer

878
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:06,279
Speaker 2: of twenty fourteen, he was ahead of the curve, and

879
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 2: he took what was already a good team in that

880
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors team, and pushed him up to sixty

881
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 2: seven wins by essentially weaponizing the threat of Stephan Clay's

882
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 2: shooting through multiple actions on every single possession that forced

883
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 2: defenses to make a ton of decisions. And as soon

884
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: as somebody messes up, there's your opening. It's it takes

885
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 2: an enormous amount of trust, and like Steph talked about it,

886
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: how it was kind of sloppy at first, and it

887
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: took them a little while to kind of like figure

888
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 2: out what kind of shots they were going to get

889
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: in the offense and how to you know.

890
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: Basically how to execute it.

891
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 2: But I was just really fascinating to hear Steve, like

892
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 2: Steph essentially point out that Steve Kerr was breeding this

893
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: idea of like using ball in player movement to force

894
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 2: defenses to make a ton of decisions on every single possession,

895
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 2: inevitably leading to the mistakes that lead to the openings.

896
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 2: Last thing I'll say overall, you know, I just was

897
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: thinking about it as I was watching the show. I

898
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: just think Steph is so damn cool, and he's so smart,

899
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: and he's so fun to listen to talk about the game,

900
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 2: and he's become you know, I think he's the fifth

901
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 2: best perimeter player of all time. He's become literally one

902
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: of the very best basketball players to ever touch the floor.

903
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: And it's just kind of funny because I hated his

904
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 2: ass ten years ago. I hated him because obviously I

905
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,360
Speaker 2: was a younger fan and I was rooting for the

906
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,760
Speaker 2: for the Lebron led Cleveland Cavaliers, right, and so rooting

907
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,520
Speaker 2: against him made me hate him. But it's been so

908
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 2: funny because like over the course of the last you know,

909
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: six or seven years, especially as I've started to really

910
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 2: learn about the game, as I've studied the NBA and

911
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: tried to become more familiar with how NBA basketball works,

912
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 2: and then obviously just getting distance from from the rivalry.

913
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: Like Steph's just one of.

914
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 2: My favorite basketball players of all time, and he he's

915
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 2: just completely won me over and I just really really

916
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 2: enjoyed listening to him just talk about basketball for forty

917
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 2: five minutes yesterday. It was an excellent pod. I'm looking

918
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 2: forward to part two. I'm hoping that they kind of

919
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 2: dive more into the Steph Lebron rivalry in that second episode.

920
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: I would imagine they will, and so I'm excited to

921
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 2: see that when they come.

922
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: Out with that.

923
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 2: All right, guys, it's all I have for today, As always,

924
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 2: to sincerely appreciate you guys for supporting us and supporting

925
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 2: the show. We'll be back tomorrow with more game reaction.

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Speaker 2: I'll see you guys then.