1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,480 Speaker 1: Weird. 2 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: Thankful for you on this Thanksgiving Day for being a 3 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 2: listener here on the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: This is the best of with Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: Welcome back in our number three Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: We're about as far apart as we can nearly be 7 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 3: in the continental United States. Buck down in Miami, I'm 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: out in LA. We are covering the country from the 9 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 3: east coast to the west coast, making sure that all 10 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: of you are as informed and entertained we hope as 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 3: we can possibly make you every single day. And then 12 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 3: we're sitting here two weeks after the election. California still 13 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 3: has not finished counting its votes. It's unacceptable. It needs 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: to be resolved. I say that as someone sitting here 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: in California right now. But Buck, now that it's been 16 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: two weeks, a lot of the data is out, and 17 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: the biggest move that occurred from twenty twenty to twenty 18 00:00:54,760 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 3: twenty four in terms of groups voting is young men, White, Black, 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: Asian and Hispanic under the age of thirty overwhelmingly moved 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 3: to vote and support Donald Trump. Many of you out 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 3: there listening to us right now, may have kids, may 22 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 3: have grandkids that were a part of this group voting 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 3: for the very first time. Some of you are listening 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 3: to us right now and you voted in an election 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: for the very first time, and you voted for. 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: Trump and Buck. 27 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 3: I wrote last night when I was flying to La 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 3: a column that is up at OutKick right now. I 29 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 3: shared it from my Twitter. We'll link it up at 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 3: Clayanbuck dot com. But I've been thinking a lot about 31 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 3: as these Trump celebrations have happened. You saw John Jones 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: doing the Trump dance last night, Christian Pulistic, the soccer player, 33 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 3: did it. Lots of different NFL players, Detroit Lyons, San 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 3: Francisco forty nine Ers, Tennessee Titans, basically the Las Vegas 35 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: Raiders all over the country. Young men athletes in particular 36 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 3: are saying, we're Trump guys and we're not apologizing for it. 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: How did this happen? 38 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: How did suddenly it become so incredibly cool for young 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: men to be Trump supporters? 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: Now? 41 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 3: I think Trump ran a great campaign. He was intelligent 42 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 3: in reaching out to these young guys by doing Joe Rogan, 43 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: by doing THEO Vaughn, by doing OutKick. Honestly, Aiden Ross, 44 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 3: I think is the guy's name. Lots of people who 45 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: are younger than I am, and then you are, Buck, 46 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: and we're pretty young to be having the jobs that 47 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 3: we have are being really impactful when it comes to 48 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 3: young men and. 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: How they voted. 50 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 3: And I've got a thesis for you, and it's been 51 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: building for some time, and I'm curious if you buy it. 52 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 3: Imagine that you were fifteen or sixteen years old when 53 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 3: COVID happened. I think younger men this is true too, 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 3: But those kids like my kids now they're fourteen and sixteen, 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 3: they live through COVID. But Buck, just follow me here 56 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 3: and see if you buy it. 57 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: This is my thesis. 58 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: If you were told, hey, you can't go to school anymore, 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: you can't play sports, you can't go to prom, you 60 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: can't go on to the mall, you can't hang out 61 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 3: with your buddies. You got to stay at home. You 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: can't go see grandpa or grandma if they're sick in 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 3: the hospital because you might kill them. You can't go 64 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: to their funeral. You got to wear a mask outdoors 65 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 3: to play football whenever you're allowed to play. To play soccer, 66 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: you gotta wear a mask to play basketball, because you 67 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 3: might die from this virus, which actually has no statistical 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 3: chance of killing you. If all of the adults in 69 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 3: your life and the authority figures told you that and 70 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: you found out that it wasn't true, I think you'd 71 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: be angry. And if simultaneously you were being told that 72 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 3: men were the root of all evil, that masculinity was toxic, 73 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: you would start to look around, and you might have 74 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: a profound BS detector. And also you might start to 75 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 3: look and find Clay and Buck on social media or OutKick, 76 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 3: or you might find Jordan Peterson. You might find Ben Shapiro, 77 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: you might find Joe Rogan. You might find a lot 78 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 3: of male voices out there telling you that you weren't 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: actually responsible for anything other than what you did. And 80 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 3: you might have started to look at Donald Trump, who, 81 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 3: if you're a young man, you had been told was 82 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 3: racist and sexist and totally unacceptable. And then on July thirteenth, 83 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 3: you saw Trump nearly get shot, and you saw him 84 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: rise up and say fight, fight, fight, in what I 85 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: think is the most alpha male moment in the history 86 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: of the United States presidency. And you might have started 87 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 3: looking around saying, wait a minute, Trump is actually a 88 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,479 Speaker 3: male figure that I would aspire to be part of. 89 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 3: And let me give you two more little clips here, Buck, 90 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 3: because I'm raising boys right now. About four years ago 91 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: or so, I was with my then ten year old 92 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: in Target and we walked in I think we were 93 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: going to buy football cards, and there were girl power 94 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 3: shirts everywhere, and my ten year old turned to me 95 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,239 Speaker 3: and he said, Dad, how come there's never boy power 96 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 3: shirts anywhere? He said they would never. Target would never 97 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 3: sell a shirt that said boy power. Why can girls 98 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: all walk around saying yay girl power? And we're not 99 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 3: allowed to be proud to be men? 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: Boys? Is what he said. I never would have thought 101 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: about it. 102 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 3: Another one of my kids' friends was over and I 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: wrote about this because it in retrospect makes a lot 104 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 3: of sense. 105 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: Buck. 106 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: He said, I was in class the other day and 107 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,240 Speaker 3: one of our teachers was doing a whole thing on 108 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: how toxic masculinity is and how white men have caused 109 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: all these problems, and he said, I'm just over it. 110 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: He said, I'm twelve. I think it was a sixth 111 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 3: grader at the time. He's like, my mom doesn't even 112 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 3: let me pick what I get to eat for dinner. 113 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 3: How can I be the cause of everything that's gone 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 3: wrong in America. 115 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 4: I'm just a twelve year old kid. 116 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 1: I think these. 117 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: Boys have seen through the BS and this is one 118 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: reason Buck, I'm so optimistic going forward. I think that 119 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 3: they are. 120 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: Going to be. 121 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely the foundation of the Republican Party going forward, White, Black, 122 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 3: Asian and Hispanic because they're over the BS. And I 123 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 3: think that's why they moved so much to Trump in 124 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. A lot of these guys are just 125 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 3: voting for the first time. 126 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: Do you buy it. 127 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: They're angry about COVID, They're angry about what they've been 128 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 3: told about masculinity. 129 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: They think it's BS. 130 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: Look, if you're a guy, let's just say you know 131 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 4: twelve to twenty five right now, right so you're you know, 132 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 4: you're aware of what's in the new well. I mean, obviously, 133 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 4: twelve year old's very very different perspective from twenty five 134 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 4: year olds. But you know, a young man in the 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 4: world today in America, who do you look up to 136 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 4: on the Democrat side? You know, I'll tell you one 137 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: thing that has changed dramatically in our in our culture. 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 4: I don't think people look up to actors at all anymore. Yeah, 139 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 4: I think that that. I think because of social media 140 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 4: and because of the change also in the power dynamic 141 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 4: in Hollywood, where now you know, who really runs the 142 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 4: entertainment industry, Netflix, Amazon, Apple, That's who runs the entertainment industry. 143 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: It's not even the big movie studios anymore. So the 144 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 4: era of I want to be George Clooney or I 145 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 4: want to be Brad Pitt when I grow up, I 146 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 4: think those guys are badasses and they're so cool. It's 147 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 4: not really not really a thing anymore. That's changed dramatically. 148 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 4: I think a lot of sports heroes or you know, 149 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 4: elevating people in the sports realm, it's changed, right. Doesn't 150 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 4: mean that there aren't people that look up to NBA players, 151 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 4: NFL players, UFC fighters, whomever. But because of social media, 152 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 4: we have seen that some of these people are jerks, 153 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: like Colin Kaepernick is a fraud and a jerky, and 154 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 4: you know, I think there are plenty of people who 155 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 4: might have, you know, liked him for the athlete he was, 156 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 4: et cetera. But when he showed what he really felt 157 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 4: about America, a lot of people reacted very negatively to it. 158 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: And when the NBA was you know, the NBA has 159 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: this habit of you know, standing against the police and 160 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: sometimes with criminals. You know, we've seen enough of this 161 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: now where if you're a young man looking for role models, 162 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 4: I don't mean role models is I want to be 163 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: like this person, but I want to aspire to their philosophy. 164 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: I like the way they view the world and what 165 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 4: they're trying to achieve. I do not think the Left 166 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: has anyone for you. I think that's where we are. 167 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 4: I do not think that anybody who is a pronoun 168 00:08:56,160 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 4: sharing male feminist who thinks that transgender men should play 169 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 4: in women's sports and wants to chant all the time 170 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: about girl power and wants to talk about the dangers 171 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 4: of white supremacy and things Christopher Columbus should be replaced 172 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 4: with you know, Native Indigenous People's Day or whatever. I 173 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 4: don't think an average thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, all the way 174 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 4: up to twenty five year old or whatever guy with 175 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 4: normal levels of testosterone, which, by the way, does affect 176 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: your brain and your outlook on life and what you 177 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 4: want to do. I don't think they see the Left 178 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 4: and they see anybody that they want to be like 179 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: or that they look up to. Right now, who's really prominent. 180 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 4: We don't look up to music acts the same way. 181 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 4: I mean, maybe some people do, but you know, rock stars. 182 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 4: A lot of the old rock stars now also look 183 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 4: a little kind of like weird and sad. They've gotten 184 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 4: really old. They're not giving it up. I don't know 185 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 4: if you saw Madonna recently, not that I was ever 186 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 4: a huge Madona fan, but you know, she needs an intervention. 187 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 4: I'm just saying I think that the heroes in this country, 188 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 4: it's changed a lot. And I think that some of 189 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 4: the people that are believing in MAGA to the essential point, 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 4: we're making our young men who view this as a 191 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 4: philosophy of America and their role in it. That makes 192 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 4: them proud, That makes them feel like there's something that 193 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 4: they should fight for and that they have a role, 194 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 4: that they have a purpose. You do not have purpose 195 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: if you're just some cognitive machine that walks around with 196 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 4: your shoulders slumped together. Being like I'm a male feminist, 197 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 4: you know you do not have purpose as a man 198 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 4: in that world. 199 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think buck the Butler Pennsylvania assassination attempt. 200 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 3: If you had said, oh, Trump's a fraud, Trump's a coward, 201 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: that argument went up in smoke. I don't know buck 202 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: how I would respond if I were speaking on a 203 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,959 Speaker 3: stage and I came within a quarter inch of my 204 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 3: head being blown off. I don't know that I would 205 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 3: have been as brave as Trump and stood up and 206 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 3: immediately screamed fight, Fight, Fight. I don't think anybody knows 207 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 3: how they would respond in that moment. I think the 208 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: argument that Trump was sort of a deletant and he 209 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: didn't believe what he was saying it went away forever. 210 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: And I think what it goes to is young men 211 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 3: are desperately craving authenticity. They don't expect that they're going 212 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 3: to agree with you on everything, but we live. I 213 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 3: think everybody understands this in a profoundly and authentic age. 214 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 3: Instagram is BS. I don't even know how to work 215 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 3: a filter, but I've seen enough girls on Instagram who 216 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 3: look like they're twenty four's on the scale of one 217 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 3: to ten, and you see them in person, you're like, ah, 218 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 3: you know, you're really good at working the mechanics on that, 219 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,439 Speaker 3: And I think they know. 220 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: That it's BS, and I think, yeah. 221 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,800 Speaker 3: I just ask my son about a guy, Andrew Tait, 222 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 3: I said, why do you like Andrew Tate, you know, 223 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: because there's criticisms about Andrew Tate. He said, well, what 224 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: I take from a dad is quit whining and do 225 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 3: more push ups. And I'm like, if you're fourteen, that's 226 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 3: not bad advice. Do quit whining and do more push 227 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: ups is actually a constructive thing that makes you a 228 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 3: better version of yourself, right, which is really what it's about. 229 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 4: I also think we're at a phase of Trump and 230 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 4: the Trump phenomenon where now people if you look at 231 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,839 Speaker 4: some of the great movers of history, I mean people 232 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 4: that were moving the levers of history in important and 233 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: powerful ways and over in a net positive way. 234 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 5: Right. 235 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 4: Not Stalin, He moved a lot of levers, but it 236 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 4: wasn't good. Yeah, But people that move levers in a 237 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 4: positive way. You know, you can look at them, and 238 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of reading biographies, right, you can 239 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,959 Speaker 4: look at them and through the totality of what they 240 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 4: represented and what they accomplished and not feel the need 241 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 4: to have to say that everything about them is perfect 242 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 4: or awesome. 243 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 5: Right. 244 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 4: And I think that a lot of people who have 245 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 4: supported Trump from the beginning, the left has always played 246 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 4: that the Democrats have always played this game of liy, 247 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 4: But what about but what about We know about the butt, 248 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: what about you know? We know about your objections. We 249 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 4: know that he's not perfect, nobody's perfect. We know that 250 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 4: he has some shortcomings. But when you see what he 251 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 4: has done, not just with this reelection win, but you 252 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: know how he reacted to the attempted assassination, I'm sorry, 253 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: but that's an image that is now seared into all 254 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 4: of our brains. I think we all recognize that that 255 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 4: was a moment in history that we will all remember, 256 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 4: and that could have been very different, very tragic. When 257 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 4: you see that he stood up against multiple indictments honestly, 258 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 4: like it was no big deal. Yeah, most people get 259 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 4: one felony indictment, and you know, they're having to put 260 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 4: them on like high high doses of you know, paxel 261 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: or zoloft or something just to get them to show 262 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: up to court because they're so terrified about what's going 263 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,560 Speaker 4: to happen to them, and or lithium or something. And 264 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: Trump just sort of rolled over all this. There is 265 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,080 Speaker 4: something about this that appeals to the masculine in all 266 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 4: of us. 267 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 3: I also one idea that I'd like for you guys 268 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 3: to think about as we go to break how do 269 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 3: we define people? 270 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: Because? 271 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 3: But what about is so important? What you just said, Buck, 272 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 3: I think we're moving towards an era where we look 273 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 3: towards the ceiling as a posed to the floor. What 274 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: do I mean by that? Much of the deconstructive woke 275 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: era is about dragging people back to the worst version 276 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 3: of themselves. Oh yeah, Columbus discovered America, but he was 277 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 3: really mean to the indigenous people. You're dragging people to 278 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 3: the floor. The worst thing that they ever did defines them, 279 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: not the best. Most of human history is about aspiring 280 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 3: to be better than we are. Certainly the religious faith 281 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 3: is entirely predicated on it. In the Christian life, woke 282 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: is about dragging people down to the worst and most 283 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 3: basist level of what they have done, as opposed to 284 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 3: ascending to the. 285 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: Best version of themselves. 286 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 3: And I think the ceiling versus the floor, we're moving 287 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 3: towards the Hey. Yeah, sometimes people do things that snink. 288 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that that's who they are. Let's aspire 289 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: to something more. And I think that's so innately powerful. 290 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: For young men. 291 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,040 Speaker 3: Aspire to be more than you are, bigger, stronger, faster, 292 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 3: do more pushups, read more books, be a better version 293 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 3: of yourself. That is what so many young men aspire to, 294 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 3: and I think they see that in some level in Trump. 295 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: That's my thesis. There's an article of about it. But 296 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: I do think it's worth contemplating if you've got young 297 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: boys or young grandsons out there that you're thinking about, 298 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: what they're rising to, what are they raising, what are 299 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: they aspiring to. Clay Travas here, Happy Thanksgiving from all 300 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: of us at the Clay Travis. 301 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: And Buck Sexton Show. 302 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 4: Welcome back into Clay and Bock. We're gonna talk about 303 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: the blowback from the morning Joe walk back on Trump 304 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 4: is a Nazi, but he's not a Nazi. But they're 305 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 4: gonna have tea with them. But they still don't like him. 306 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 4: But hm, we'll get to that here coming up in 307 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 4: a minute. But first we got a call from Andy 308 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 4: in Tennessee. What's going on? Andy? 309 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 6: Gentlemen, thanks for taking Mike palm. I'm a Rush baby, 310 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 6: and you guys are doing a great job and I'm 311 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 6: sure Rush would be very proud of it. 312 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 7: Proud of you, Thank you, thank you so much for. 313 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 6: What thank you for what you do. So I have 314 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 6: two Boys twenty one and eighteen. They're actually back in 315 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 6: Kentucky but voted for the first time. And uh, you know, 316 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 6: I said, hey, I just want you to vote. I'm 317 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 6: not going to ask you who you voted for. And 318 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 6: they're like, Dad, I voted for Trump. Who do you 319 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 6: think I voted for? And I said, okay, good boy, 320 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 6: good boys. Uh but I said why And they said, 321 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 6: because I am constantly demeaned for being a guy. 322 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: Yep. 323 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 6: Everywhere I turned, I'm demoralized. And I'm like, hey, and 324 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 6: I've tried to raise them, you know, not to be 325 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 6: macho or you know, over the top, but hey, cowboy up, 326 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 6: man up, let's get the job done. 327 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 328 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: No, they're picking. They're picking up what's out there. 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Kumar 371 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 4: writes in Matt Gates, who is nominated for Attorney General, 372 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 4: needs to ask for a public hearing for Senate confirmation. 373 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 4: Let us find out what he has to say and 374 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 4: what people are afraid of having him say. I look 375 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,080 Speaker 4: at if we get to this stage. I'm sure you're 376 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:22,919 Speaker 4: going to find out a lot about what the objections 377 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 4: are they have to Matt Gates, and what the advantages 378 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: or you know, what the benefits would be. He'll be 379 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 4: able to make his case to all of you, and 380 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 4: I think that that's something that we should all. You know, 381 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: the man deserves the chance to make his case to 382 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 4: the public about why he would be good at this. 383 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 4: But you know, for me, also, first of all, the 384 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 4: the the part of the problem here with the whining 385 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 4: about any Trump pick is that the machine has shown 386 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 4: us just how inept, how how incompetent, how dishonest, how 387 00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 4: tyrannical it can already be. You know, you're gonna lecture 388 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 4: us about Trump's picks before they've even done anything. Results 389 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 4: are results. If I don't like results, if I see 390 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 4: things going on with anyone in the Trump cabinet that 391 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 4: I think is not helping the mission, not helping the country, 392 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,439 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say so. But Trump gets to pick the 393 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 4: team that he wants to have after winning this election, 394 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 4: and after all that he's been through and all the 395 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: stuff he's overcome. You know, I'm not second guessing the 396 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 4: guy on how he assembles the team around him. I 397 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 4: want to see results. He says, this will get us results. 398 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 4: Trump is in the position to make those calls, right. 399 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 4: So that's one thing. But honestly, I mentioned before the 400 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 4: people who are complaining about this, like, oh my gosh, 401 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 4: Toulsi Garberd, like, like what do they think? Do they 402 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 4: even know who the last DNI was under Buddies dodn't 403 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 4: even who the DNI is right now? These people are 404 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: so funny. All these Beltway insiders are so important that 405 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 4: we have somebody who who wants been drinking coffee and 406 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 4: writing reports for twenty years. I was a CIA analyst. 407 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: I saw all okay in Langley. I know exactly how 408 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 4: this stuff goes. It's a lot of people sitting around like, oh, 409 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: I don't know, should I change this sentence? I mean, 410 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 4: it's just and I hope that maybe the deputy Assistant 411 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 4: Secretary for whatever spends more than thirty seconds reading this. 412 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 4: Why do you think I left the CIA? I saw 413 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 4: what was going on there. I got to brief the 414 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,639 Speaker 4: president a couple of times, which for a young CIA 415 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: analysts was the absolute as like the pinnacle of your 416 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 4: career is to run a deep dive. It wasn't just 417 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 4: like I gave him piece of paper, run a deep 418 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 4: dive briefing for thirty minutes on a specific area that 419 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 4: I had knowledge on particular knowledge unks. I'd just come 420 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 4: back from a rock. Actually in both cases, I just 421 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 4: come back from I rock. And you know, you see 422 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: when you see what's going on all these objections, but 423 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 4: then you get to the other side of you go. 424 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 4: They made Pete booda judge transportation secretary based on what 425 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 4: based on the fact that the guy says he likes 426 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 4: trains and is the mayor of South Bend. I mean, well, 427 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 4: you know what's next. We're gonna make the chief dog 428 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 4: catcher of Secaucus, New Jersey, the secretary of State. I mean, 429 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: it's absurd, it's absurd. Jennifer grand Home. I sat on 430 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: a Bill Maher panel with her years ago. The woman 431 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 4: is not intelligent. Okay, she's not a bright person. I 432 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 4: don't like to be mean, you know me, if anything, 433 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: were probably too nice. Jennifer grand Home not smart at all. 434 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: I don't mean not smart for a cabinet level official. 435 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: I mean a dumb dumb and they made her like 436 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: an energy secretary. What does she know about energy? The 437 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 4: whole thing, like, look at who these people put in 438 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 4: these jobs and now on the Washington Post or democracy 439 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 4: is under assault because look they're gonna have Pete hegsh 440 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 4: at this dj or as DoD Rather give me a break. Honestly, 441 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 4: the more they cry, the better I feel about this stuff, 442 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: The better I think it's gonna go, the more they 443 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 4: want to look with Look how much they've cried about Trump. 444 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 4: The end of democracy? Is democracy over? Is the country over? 445 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: They are horrible things. I know he's not president yet, 446 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 4: but you know that horrible things happen when he was 447 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: president for four years. Does anyone really think that Trump's 448 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 4: gonna take office in uh January? And look, I will 449 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,920 Speaker 4: tell you I'm hearing from sources, very well placed and 450 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 4: high up sources inside the Trump transition because I do 451 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 4: talk to them that the deportation thing is gonna is 452 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,520 Speaker 4: gonna be real. They're they're actually gonna enforce the law. 453 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: Good good, But all this other whining and nonsense about 454 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 4: these people, you know, and I'll tell you this, even 455 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 4: the people who Yeah, the current DNI is Avril Haynes. 456 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:43,399 Speaker 4: Now I remember that, but yeah, Avril Haynes done an 457 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 4: amazing job. In the job that nobody knew that she had. Wow, 458 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, it's absurd. I think the 459 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 4: whole thing is not. So let's take Jim and Tennessee 460 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 4: former Air Force base engineer talking about government waste. Tell me, Jim, 461 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 4: what do you got for us? 462 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 7: Hey, Buck, it's really great to be on your show. 463 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 7: Back in two thousand and four, can you hear me? 464 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, we can all hear you. 465 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 6: Okay. 466 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 7: Back in two thousand I was chef engineer of the 467 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 7: Evolved Expending a launch vehicle program and we launched payloads 468 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 7: for your buddies over at NRO National Reconnaissance Office. We 469 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 7: had a launch insertion failure where the rocket didn't make 470 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 7: the altitude that needed to make. So we had a 471 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 7: big meeting with all the scientists and engineers and we're 472 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 7: going over the post launch data, and it was clear 473 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 7: to me by just looking at the profile that the 474 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: engine cavitated, just like a speedboat engine will when it 475 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 7: just pulls bubbles, pulls air, it pulls a vacuum. So 476 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 7: it was clear to me that it cavitated. So the 477 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 7: civilian engineers and scientists said the they had to use, 478 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 7: they had to use an exhaustive all cause analysis to 479 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 7: look at every possible failure mode and determine what went wrong. 480 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,439 Speaker 7: And I said, well, it's clear to me that the 481 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 7: engine pulled a vacuum and cavitated. Why can't you look 482 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 7: at the most likely cause first? So, oh, no, we 483 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 7: can't do that. We're not allowed. Our process is okay. 484 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 7: So they had to follow their ingrain process. It took 485 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 7: six weeks, it cost fifty million dollars, and it determined 486 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 7: that the engine cavitated. So every bureaucracy in the in 487 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 7: the federal government has built in processes that guarantees their 488 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 7: continued work at no value added to the taxpayer. 489 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 4: Oh well, thank you so much for that. Totally totally correct, Jim, 490 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 4: and appreciate you sharing that story. I'll tell you one 491 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: of the things that that Hegseth I think is going 492 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: to get rid of in DoD Land. And maybe it's 493 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 4: Elon and and Vivek who also have a hand of this. 494 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 4: You know a lot of these people also all know 495 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 4: each other, they respect each other, they have each other's 496 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 4: phone numbers. That the level of connectivity that this top 497 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 4: circle in Trump world is going to have with each 498 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 4: other far exceeds honestly, in previous administrations. There's a lot 499 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 4: of nerds who don't know you don't even know each other, 500 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 4: and the secretary of such and such doesn't know the 501 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 4: secretary of such and such. These guys all know each 502 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 4: other and they're all operating. And you know, Pete knows Tulsi, 503 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 4: and Tulsi knows Viveke, and Viveke no obviously with Elon, 504 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 4: and Elon knows what I mean, knows Gates. I mean, 505 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 4: these guys all know each other, and they all they 506 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,719 Speaker 4: already have working relationships. So this is gonna move I think, 507 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 4: much faster. And one of the funnier stories that I know, 508 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 4: Elon told these amazing stories about government fraud, waste and 509 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: abuse where his rocket launches. They made you know, this 510 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 4: just came out recently. We played some of this for 511 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 4: you on the show. But they made them see if 512 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: I think it was dolphin mating habits would be affected 513 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 4: by the noise of the rockets, So they had to 514 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 4: make sure that dolphins still wanted to have even though 515 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 4: like rockets were going off in the distance or something 516 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 4: turned out, who wants to guess, dolphins still wanted to 517 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: get it on you know, they still wanted to get 518 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 4: it on. I remember when I went out to the 519 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,879 Speaker 4: when I was a young CIA officer. Uh oh, and 520 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,400 Speaker 4: they didn't want it to hit a whale. That's right. 521 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 4: When it was landing, it was gonna it was gonna 522 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: come down on the ocean. What if the rocket lands 523 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: in the middle of the ocean it hits a whale. 524 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 4: Now you've just killed a whale. Unacceptable. I have to 525 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 4: make sure. And Elon, I think I had the right attitude, 526 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 4: is like, look, if the whale gets hit, it's a 527 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: big ocean. If the whale gets hit by a rocket 528 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 4: coming down, like, it's probably the whales day, you know 529 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 4: what I mean. Let's be honest. You know, maybe it 530 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 4: was a mean whale like Monstro in Pinocchio. Remember that 531 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,919 Speaker 4: Monstro that scared me when I was a kid. Monstro 532 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 4: was scary. If you have that's a great old Disney 533 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 4: The old Disney cartoons so great. That's a great old 534 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 4: Disney cartoon. They were a Pinocchio. Oh, not a bite 535 00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 4: until we find Pinocchio, remember Giuseppi. It's great. The cobbler 536 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 4: or whatever. Not a cobbler, what is he's a wood 537 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 4: would work or whatever he is, Cobbler would work or 538 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 4: something like that. I can't believe I'm talking about Pinocchio. Okay, 539 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 4: here we go, National Training Center. What does Trump say? 540 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 4: I'm weaving. I'm weaving. Anytime I start to go off 541 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 4: track now, especially on solo days, I'm just gonna be 542 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 4: like I'm doing the Trump I'm weaving. I'm weaving. I 543 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 4: went to the National Training Center in at Ford, Irwin. 544 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 4: I think it's the same thing. I always forget this, 545 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 4: like the same place, yeah, Ford, Irwin, California, just to 546 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 4: observe some of the counterinsurgency training that was I was 547 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 4: out there, like I don't know, a week or two something, 548 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 4: maybe a week ten days, observing counterinsurgency training out there, 549 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 4: so that I when I would go to Rock myself, 550 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: I had a better sense of the training that outgoing 551 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 4: units were getting. 552 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: There. 553 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 4: It was pretty amazing. I had like these villages with 554 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 4: people speaking like fake villages, like kind of a p 555 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 4: Temkin village, but with a lot of shish kebab and 556 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 4: people speaking Arabic and stuff, and they were and I 557 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: remember I was out there and the base commander I 558 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 4: don't remember his name, and I don't remember his uh, 559 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 4: his rank or you know, it's probably a general or something, 560 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 4: colonel general. But the base commander gave a presentation to 561 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 4: a few of us, A few of us from CIA 562 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 4: were just there to check out what's going on. And 563 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 4: the thing that I really remembered was he talked about 564 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: and some people who have been out there probably even 565 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 4: if you have any details on this that I'm leaving out, 566 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 4: let me know. This is going back now fifteen years 567 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 4: or something. It was a long time ago. But they 568 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 4: would have these you know, military vehicle convoys. Ford Irwin 569 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: is in the middle of nowhere, all right. If you're 570 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: wondering like, what would the world look like in a 571 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: Mad Max apocalypse, it's the area around Forder. It's just 572 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: just nothing, desert, some meth labs here and there. That's it, right, 573 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 4: that's that area. And they had this problem because there 574 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: was this There was I think a desert tortoise that 575 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 4: would on these the military vehicles will come by on 576 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 4: this one main highway into the base and the desert 577 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 4: tortoise will get you know, squished, you know, especially if 578 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: the tortoise gets hit by like an m rap or 579 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: something that's gonna that's gonna make that's gonna leave am 580 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 4: even with this little shell. So the tortoises were getting squashed. 581 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 4: And so then they said, well what is it? And 582 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 4: the environ and remember this is California's the environmentalists all 583 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 4: freak out. The environmentalists will all you know, probably had 584 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 4: like Greta Thunberg chaining herself to the wall or chaining 585 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 4: herself defence or something. You know, how dare you? And 586 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 4: and they decided what they had to do. This is 587 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,840 Speaker 4: this is real, is create this is what the guy 588 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 4: told me. Okay, it's all. This is a senior military 589 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 4: officers telling me what they had to do with the space. 590 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 4: They had to create a kind of a low netting 591 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,479 Speaker 4: for I think it was a few miles on the 592 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 4: entryway into the space to keep the desert tortoise from 593 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: coming out the road and getting turned into turtle soup 594 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,479 Speaker 4: by you know, the military vehicles going by at high speeds. Right. 595 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 4: You might think, okay, happy ending, but you know what, 596 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 4: this is a problem. Tortoises, as you may know, not 597 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 4: very agile, right, and so they would get stuck in 598 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 4: this little fencing and then they would be easy, easy 599 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 4: pickings for the buzzards and other predatory birds because they 600 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 4: were stuck there and they couldn't move and they would 601 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 4: just get eaten. So they had to build little underpasses 602 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 4: in the fence. And I think this call I don't 603 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: want to. I forget. This is a long time ago. 604 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 4: I think they said this cost like all in with 605 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: all the environmental studies, like forty million dollars or something, 606 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: some crazy amount of money so that the tortoises wouldn't 607 00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: get stuck in the road and eaten by the buzzards. 608 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 4: Welcome to the United States Military of the federal government, everybody. 609 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: It was pretty it was. 610 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 4: Pretty remarkable stuff. I gotta say. I was like, wow, 611 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 4: occasionally I get to learn cool stuff at the CIA. Hey, 612 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 4: it's Buck Sexton from our home to yours. Have a 613 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 4: wonderful Thanksgiving from the Clay and Buck Show. 614 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 3: David in Minnesota. What did you think about what you're 615 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 3: seeing out there? 616 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 5: You know, guys, we've been talking about the culture for 617 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 5: for many years. Rush you guys, you're and how that 618 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 5: if until Trump or the GOP Republicans, whatever you want 619 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 5: to call it, became the equivalent of sitting at the 620 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 5: cool kid's table, nothing would change. And with the dances 621 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 5: in the UFC the NFL with a landslide victory, Trump 622 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 5: winning the young male vote. It's just it's coming. There's 623 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 5: a sea change coming. The culture is changing and it's 624 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 5: only going to get better. Thanks guys, what you're doing. 625 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: I love it. 626 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to talk about this more in the next hour. 627 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: Buck. 628 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 3: I think he's one hundred percent right for the culture 629 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 3: to have changed to the extent where young men out 630 00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 3: there are diehard Trump wearing MAGA hat badasses. I think 631 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: what's really interesting to me, And again everything is anecdotal, 632 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 3: but I saw this young men rise coming for Trump support. 633 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: Buck. 634 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: My boys and the kids. 635 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 3: That they have and that they hang out around, they're 636 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 3: still buy and large is not able to vote. Then 637 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 3: this next decade, I think they're going to be even 638 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: more diehard Trump voting than the current generation. Right, Like 639 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 3: my fourteen year old in the car the other day, 640 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 3: I talked about this, saying, I'm going to be able 641 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 3: to vote in twenty eight He's going to vote Republican 642 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: one billion percent. 643 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 4: Jen Z in particular, and I think millennials as well, 644 00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 4: there was a sense that to be cool and this 645 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 4: might have been a part of the kind of Obama phenomenon. 646 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 4: But the cool kids were Democrats was a widespread I 647 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 4: never agreed with that because Clay I always thought I 648 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 4: was a cool kid and my conservative friends, but there 649 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 4: was a you know, the culture was much more aligned 650 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 4: with them. I think jen Alpha, which I've now learned 651 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 4: is what's below gen Z. You're going to see a 652 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 4: lot more the cool kids are conservative because of these 653 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 4: alternative media pathways, because of the effect of a lot 654 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: of shows out there, including this one. I might add, 655 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,920 Speaker 4: but you know, the sort of bro podcasters, the Rogan effect, 656 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: elon all of it. If you're an if you're a 657 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 4: if you're an eighteen year old guy right now, you know, 658 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 4: who do you really look up to in the like 659 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,160 Speaker 4: if you're a standard American eighteen year old guy, any 660 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 4: you know, any race, whatever, any religion, who do you 661 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: really look up to in the Democrat Party? 662 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 6: Don't? 663 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 3: I don't know who it was having this conversation over 664 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 3: the weekend, Buck, I was having this conversation like, who 665 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 3: would you I was talking with a bunch of dudes, 666 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 3: just again, dudes, not even particularly particularly political. I asked 667 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,839 Speaker 3: the question, can you name me a Democrat that you'd 668 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 3: like to go watch this football game with We're not 669 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 3: going to sit around and talk about abortion policy. We're 670 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: not going to talk about you know, tax rates. We're 671 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,880 Speaker 3: just going to watch a game and just have a 672 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 3: couple of beers and chill. I can't name really a 673 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: Democrat i'd want to watch a game with. 674 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 4: I mean, the Tim Waltz thing. I know, we had 675 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 4: a lot of fun with it, and it was funny, 676 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: but it was bizarre at the same time. This is 677 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 4: this is there, like, Hey, I'm going to appeal to 678 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 4: guys who wear carhart and drive pickup truck, not just 679 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 4: for an ad like that's how they live their lives. 680 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 4: This is who they are. I'm going to appeal to 681 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 4: them with Tim Walls Like, really that that's your move. 682 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 4: So I think that they've learned, they've learned a less 683 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 4: of this. I know you've been sharing it. The Seth 684 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 4: Molten stuff is insane. Yeah, he's congressman is like boys 685 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 4: shouldn't be playing in girls' sports, and the left wing 686 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,959 Speaker 4: lunatics are all after him. If Democrats want to start 687 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 4: to gain back some of the ground they've lost, they 688 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: actually need guys like Seth Moulton who can kind of 689 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 4: play that center ground a little bit and not look 690 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 4: like a total weirdo. 691 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we need to play some of that audio. 692 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 3: I shared it over the weekend. But I mean, you've 693 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 3: got John Oliver, who everybody likes to talk. 694 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: Oh John Oliver. 695 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 4: John Oliver, he. 696 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 3: Came out and said Democrats need to double and triple 697 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 3: down on trans inclusion in sports. 698 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, Jin, I think he's the same thing. 699 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 4: He's He's the Japanese soldier on the island who doesn't 700 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 4: know the war is over, or at least that he's 701 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 4: lost the battle. He's in another planet. 702 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 703 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 3: And you know, I got to give her credit and 704 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 3: I would love to have her on the show at 705 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:08,720 Speaker 3: some point. How about jk Rowling just being the most 706 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 3: based badass. 707 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: Woman on the planet. 708 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 3: She's a billionaire, she didn't need to weigh into gender 709 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 3: related issues. I actually want to read her response to 710 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 3: what John Oliver said on air, because I think she 711 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: may have a future in writing book. But this is 712 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 3: the Harry Potter writer. She's amazing for the battles that 713 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: she's fighting too.