1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Earlier today, you tweeted out that Palestine is receiving quote 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: unquote a raw deal with regards to how Iran has 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: treated them. You tweeted that in response to the Iranian 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: Foreign Minister zer Reef. It comes following a Fox News 5 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: op ed in which you said that Israeli Palestinian peace 6 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,760 Speaker 1: would be Iran's quote unquote worst nightmare. Why is that 7 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Iran and other bad actors in the region use the 8 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Israeli Palestinian conflict to light up the streets. They need 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: to have conflict for their regimes to keep their people happy. 10 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: It's very unfortunate they light up the streets in Gaza. 11 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: The Hamas is being funded by Iran. They don't give 12 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: a lot of money, but they give enough to keep 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 1: Hamas happy. Hamast then subjugates nearly two million Palestinians, and uh, 14 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: we are aware that they could be a huge spoiler, 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: and we hope to figure out how to prevent that 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: from happening, because the Palestinian people deserve better than Iran 17 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: trying to hurt them. Palestinians, for their part, have largely 18 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,920 Speaker 1: boycotted the Trump administration since the Jerusalem Embassy decision. Have 19 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: you managed to get them back to the table at all. 20 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 1: The Palestinian leadership has boycotted us, the Palestinian people have not. 21 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: We continue to engage far and wide with everyday Palestinians, who, 22 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: even if they disagree with our policies, are deeply interested 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: in what we're trying to do. If you think about 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: the Bahrain Conference, for example, the Bahrainian Workshop, over one 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: point two million people downloaded Jared Kushner's business plan for 26 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: the Palestinian people. There is deep interest in what we're 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: doing among ordinary Palestinians. When you talk to those Palestinian 28 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: in some case leaders not the the exact leadership. Do 29 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 1: any of them serve as intermediaries with Palestinian leadership. There's 30 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: no official contact between US and the Palestinian authority, and 31 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: certainly not with Moss. We can't forget that Palestinian leadership 32 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: is divided between two organizations. Many of them say that 33 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: they have contacts and go back to the past to 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: any leadership, but we view them all as private citizens 35 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: interested in helping the Palestinian people, not people who come 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: with official messages. Ultimately, do you think you need them 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: at the negotiation table in order to get a deal 38 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: I'll answer in two ways. On the Palestinian authority side, absolutely, 39 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 1: we are not looking for a regime change. President of 40 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: bas Is the leader of the Palestinians, and we hope 41 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: that he will be able to come to the table. 42 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: On the Hamas side, as Hamas exists today with its 43 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: vow to destroy Israel, shooting hundreds of rockets, killing Israelis, 44 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: causing Palestinians to go to the border to try to 45 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: create trouble, that's a different story. But we do hope 46 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: to have continued engagement or an eventual re engagement with 47 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: the Palestinian authority. Do you think Egypt, Saudi Arabia do 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: they play a role and helping to get that engagement. 49 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: I think all of the region will play a role, 50 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: or needs to play a role in Each country has 51 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: their own national interests to worry about, so we hope 52 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: that they will be positive engagement. But we're also not 53 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: going to push any of our allies and friends like Saddi, 54 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: like Egypt, like Jordan's and so on into doing something 55 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense. For that. Three weeks ago, just 56 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: about three weeks three weeks ago you spoke at the 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: United Nations. It was a speech that was widely dissected, praised, criticized. 58 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: One of the things that you said in the speech 59 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: quote international consensus is too often nothing more than a 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: mask for an action. And the same speech you said 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: quote international consensus is not international law. Several US allies 62 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: criticized that, including Germany, for example, what did you mean 63 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: by those remarks? I meant exactly what I said, And 64 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: you know, I've responded to the German ambassador who made 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 1: who distorted, in my view, our message. There is no 66 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: international consensus about this conflict. There's no international consensus about Jerusalem. Clearly, 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: the United States stands apart. When President Trump made his 68 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: bold and courageous and historic decision recognizing Jerusalem as the capital, 69 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: much of the world disagreed. We couldn't even get an 70 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: international consensus to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization. So 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: for people to suggest that there's an international consensus on 72 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: this conflict is misleading and it's wrong. Um An international 73 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: law or the UN resolutions about the conflict are vague. 74 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: They do not read lead to a roadmap on how 75 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: to resolve the conflict. We think the speech was groundbreaking 76 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: in its message. Some people have distorted it to say 77 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: that it was Jason Greenblad. It wasn't Jason Greenblad. This 78 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: was a US speech, It was cleared by all the 79 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: relevant agencies, and we think an important message for the 80 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: Security Council and the UN generally to have heard. Let 81 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: me let me press you on this because one of 82 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: the criticisms was, if you don't need international consensus, what 83 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: message does that send potentially to foreign adversaries, whether it's China, 84 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: whether it's Russia, in terms of their in terms of 85 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: other issues. If if the US isn't respecting international consensus, 86 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: why should Russia? Why should China. So we're not saying 87 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 1: that international consensus and international law doesn't exist other issues, 88 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: but we did say is on this particular issue they 89 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: don't exist. More So, this conflict will only be resolved 90 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: by direct negotiations between the parties. It's not for the 91 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: United States or the European Union or the United Nations 92 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: to demand how this conflict could be resolved. Only the 93 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: two sides who live there, who worship there, who die there, 94 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: who put their lives on the line, they're the ones 95 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: that have to figure out what the compromises might be 96 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: or could be to resolve the conflict. We can't demand 97 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: that of anybody. You said that in the speech. You 98 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: said that it is true that the PLO and the 99 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: Palestinian Authority continue to assert that East Jerusalem, Jerusalem must 100 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: be a capital for the Palestinians. But let's remember an 101 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: aspiration is not a right. Do you believe that there's 102 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: room for a Palestinian capital in Jerusalem. It's going to 103 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: be up to the two sides. We are not going 104 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 1: to take a position. When President Trump made his historic announcement, 105 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: he did say that the specific final boundaries of Jerusalem 106 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: will be up to the two sides to negotiate. We 107 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: stand by that, and it isn't for anyone else to 108 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: demand of Israel or the Palestinians what that might be. 109 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: Just had that that summit meeting conference and and do 110 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: you think to roll out the economic side of this 111 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: and ba Rain, do you think you'll have another one 112 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: to roll out of more formal type of peace proposal? 113 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: Is that in the works. So the President hasn't decided 114 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: when to roll it out yet. We obviously have the 115 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: second Israeli elections coming up in September. Following that a 116 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: government formation process, and the President will have to decide 117 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: soon if he wants to roll out the peace effort 118 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: or the Peace vision prior to the election or after 119 00:06:34,320 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: the election. And if after the election, uh does he 120 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: wait for the government coalition to be formed and no 121 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: decision has been made. Let me follow up on the 122 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 1: on the Israeli elections or is the US trying to 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: encourage a unity government in Israel? Where uh Prime Minister 124 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: Netanyah who would join the center left parties? No, we 125 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: don't get involved in other government's election process. And as 126 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: long as net and Yah who pairs up with the 127 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 1: right wing parties, will it be hard to get a 128 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: deal going. I think it's gonna be hard to get 129 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 1: a You're going on all sides, and I think when 130 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 1: we see when people see the plan, there will be 131 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: heavy criticism all around Israelis, Palestinians, Europeans, everybody. There's no 132 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: deal that we could put on the table that everybody 133 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: will say, wow, how did you figure out? When nobody 134 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: has figured out before? We recognize that. But what we 135 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: think we are putting down is something that despite the 136 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: hard compromises, makes sense for everybody. We hope that the 137 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: two sides will look at it in good faith and say, 138 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: you know what, despite the hard compromises, we think this 139 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: makes sense. We think it's worth sitting down at the 140 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: table together and seeing if we could finally get through 141 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: and break through to the end of this conflict.