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Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. We'll never wear lanyards again.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another addition to the Around the NFL Podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan has Since I come to you

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Speaker 1: from a room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Gregg

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Speaker 1: Rosenthal and boys. Did you know that mitochondria is the

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Speaker 1: powerhouse of the sound? Well, I feel like I'm from

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Speaker 1: I did learn that in science about twenty seven years ago.

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Speaker 1: I believe it is trending on Twitter right now globally

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Speaker 1: or at least nationally. J. J. Watt tweeted that five

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Speaker 1: hours ago, and people are going nuts connecting dots trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out what is the code in there, if

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Speaker 1: any connecting him to any number of teams that are

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Speaker 1: pursuing the future Hall Pass Rusher Um and you know

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Speaker 1: you guys are educated men. I was wondering if there

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Speaker 1: was anything you took out of that Micae Mito condrea

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Speaker 1: is the powerhouse of the cell. Anybody got anything? There

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Speaker 1: is a link to our show because our our friends

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Speaker 1: of the show. Seth Payne down in Houston, not being

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Speaker 1: on the Jack easterby Beat for a minute, put up

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Speaker 1: a post suggesting this that translocation of active mitochondria during

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Speaker 1: Buffalo o sites in vitro maturation, fertilization and preimplantation embryo

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Speaker 1: development some sort of science jargon, but he tied it

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Speaker 1: to the bills, and people are thinking this could be

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Speaker 1: a hint that he has headed to Western New York.

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Speaker 1: You know, there is there is somebody else that I

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Speaker 1: He always seems to have a strong, uh unique take

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Speaker 1: at all times, and I'd like to know his thoughts

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Speaker 1: on In fact, let's bring him in one of the

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Speaker 1: all time friends of the Around the NFL podcast and

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Speaker 1: now a big old star for s I in Monday

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Speaker 1: and winning quarterback Connor or or you kidding me? Connor

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Speaker 1: Mido Condria is the powerhouse of the cell Buddy. I

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Speaker 1: I don't I I don't see how you could take

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Speaker 1: that any other way outside of the fact that he's

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Speaker 1: going to Green Bay. He's going to be a packer,

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Speaker 1: um and that this all goes back to you know,

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Speaker 1: uh cow's milk production, uh Wisconsin mitochondria. It all folds

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Speaker 1: in really neatly there. I think, Yeah, you know, Greg,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you with the science, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty easy to get from point A

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Speaker 1: Watt is doing like a I guess it's sort of

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Speaker 1: of every episode, he's he's having fun with it. He's

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Speaker 1: like every other you know, kind of boring, boring, old

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Speaker 1: for him. I do like when he tweeted out something

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Speaker 1: the baseline and this was an old old West is

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Speaker 1: um um, you know. The baseline for like considering what's

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Speaker 1: him crazy that people thought like Peyton Manning was like

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Speaker 1: My problem with my problem with this whole thing though,

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Speaker 1: And then you know, of course, and one of my

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Speaker 1: but like, of course he's gonna have twenty four sacks

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Speaker 1: idea of Tom Brady's you know, like circling around in

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Speaker 1: That's also to your point, though I do remember being

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Speaker 1: that age and the Hillary Clinton thing. Like my friend

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Speaker 1: and I were in the Mets game and we were

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Speaker 1: centered over like the outfield somewhere, and we spent seven

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Speaker 1: straight innings um trying to get Kirk Gibson's attention, shouting

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Speaker 1: at him, berating him, um, waving our hands and giving

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Speaker 1: him the finger, and finally, like in the eighth inning,

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Speaker 1: he finally looked up and he was like you and

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Speaker 1: we were like, yes, we did it. You did it.

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Speaker 1: And that was like So it's like when you're that young,

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Speaker 1: like you don't like you just want to get the

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Speaker 1: famous person's attention. So not to stay sidetracked here, but

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Speaker 1: now you're giving me memories. The Yankees had some truly

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Speaker 1: dreadful teams in the early nineties, and there was a

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Speaker 1: matinee game in August and they were probably twenty five

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Speaker 1: games under five hundred. Me and my cousin Matt were

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Speaker 1: in the upper deck and right field of the old

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Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium, which was really now that it's it's gone

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Speaker 1: and there's a new stadium there. The old Yankee Stadium,

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Speaker 1: the upper deck you st almost hang over the field,

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Speaker 1: So if you were there in the front row and

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Speaker 1: the place was empty and the right fielder was in

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Speaker 1: the field, you were kind of on top of them.

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Speaker 1: So me and my cousin Matt, we're probably both like

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Speaker 1: eight oh no, we probably about nine or ten, just

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Speaker 1: screaming at the top of our lungs for like three

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Speaker 1: straight innings. No, ho, no, And finally like he just

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Speaker 1: looks up and he's like what, We had nothing else

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Speaker 1: to say. We just wanted a reaction. I guess that

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Speaker 1: kid wanted one to He got it every day of

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Speaker 1: their lives for seventeen years. You know, if you had

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Speaker 1: a long MLB career, it's just like every single day,

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Speaker 1: every day, sneaky challenge of being a Major League Baseball assuather.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. Uh, speaking of New

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Speaker 1: York sports, we haven't touched on Sam Donald in a minute. Here.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald is the uh entering his fourth season in

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Speaker 1: the league, very disappointing first three years in New York.

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Speaker 1: There are um different ways to look at it. It's

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Speaker 1: Donald being um, not living up to the prospects of

469
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Speaker 1: being a number three overall pick and not playing well,

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Speaker 1: but then also the Adam Gates disaster in general, just

471
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Speaker 1: Jets putting a lot of bad things around him. So

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Speaker 1: with the Jets potentially ready for a fresh start, Donald

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Speaker 1: is reportedly allegedly on the trade block. NFL Networks Ian

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Speaker 1: Rappaport reports the Jets have received quote real interest in Donald,

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Speaker 1: and rapp Aboard added that the team would complete their

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Speaker 1: evaluations of the top qu v's in the NFL Draft

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Speaker 1: before making any decisions on what to do. Greg. So

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Speaker 1: this is, uh, this all seems to be pointing in

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Speaker 1: a certain direction that Donald will be moved. What are

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Speaker 1: your thoughts about where this is and in general just

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Speaker 1: the subject of Donald and where his career goes from here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, when some of the New York

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Speaker 1: reporters said a second round pick is you know where

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Speaker 1: it's starting for Donald? I took that to mean that's

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Speaker 1: like what that's what the Jets want, and maybe they're

486
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Speaker 1: not even getting that yet. And my reaction is similar

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Speaker 1: to the Wentz thing. When I heard that they were

488
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Speaker 1: getting offered two seconds, I was like, take it now

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Speaker 1: before anything changes. Trade Donald now, like his numbers over

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Speaker 1: his last you know, sixteen games at football perspective, put

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Speaker 1: this up today. It's like, are literally worse than Dwayne Haskins,

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Speaker 1: and we we and Haskins is younger. We would never

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Speaker 1: think to give Haskins like the benefit of the doubt

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Speaker 1: that Donald has uh compared to Gardner Minshew, who's also younger.

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Speaker 1: It's like, of course, he's not even in that same ballpark, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the Gays thing was a disaster, but he's played a

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Speaker 1: lot of football, and there's almost no historical precedent to

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Speaker 1: be as bad as Donald's been and recover for anything

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Speaker 1: more than oh then early average. That okay, maybe you'll

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Speaker 1: have a couple of seasons where people are like, hey,

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Speaker 1: this guy's an average or above average, Like take take

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Speaker 1: whatever you can get now. I think the longer you wait,

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Speaker 1: and I just don't expect him to be with the Jets,

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Speaker 1: I guess I've sort of thrown in the towel there

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Speaker 1: on Donald. I would just ask, like, you know, we

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Speaker 1: talked with Damna Check on our last show about the

507
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Speaker 1: subjective quarterback saturation, which has not been the case for

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Speaker 1: this podcast but the last couple of years. Like who's calling?

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Speaker 1: I look around? It could be I guess maybe the Bears.

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Speaker 1: That would make sense. I could really see Donald in

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Speaker 1: a Chicago Bears uniform. I mean the Panthers potentially. I

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Speaker 1: doubt that. What if you what if you're the Jets

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Speaker 1: and the only real um interest you got came from

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Speaker 1: in the end based down you know, the stuff happening

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Speaker 1: the New England Patriots? Would you ever move them? Just

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Speaker 1: to move them if you were to land there? I like,

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Speaker 1: I just seems like the anti Patriots quarterback though, like

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Speaker 1: I would say, take take a year ago. I think

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Speaker 1: they would want like guys who are either athletic or

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Speaker 1: like process quickly, like just the kind of mental mistakes

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Speaker 1: that Donald's I guess shown and a great again. You

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Speaker 1: have to give him some leeway with Gaye, but it's like,

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Speaker 1: what are we hoping for if they if they could

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Speaker 1: get a second round pick, take it while they can.

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Speaker 1: It is what I would say. It's a great point

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Speaker 1: on saturation. I was talking to Jordan Palmer Carson's brother

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Speaker 1: who trains draft prospects um and has Trevor Lawrence this year,

528
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Speaker 1: and he had said, like, dude, I have clients now

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Speaker 1: ten year old eleven year old kids in Germany. Like

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Speaker 1: that's how many clients I have, and I'm treating them

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Speaker 1: all to be NFL quarterbacks. Every single college in America

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Speaker 1: is four deep with kids who are capable of starting

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. It's gotten that good, you know, And

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Speaker 1: and teams on the flip side have gotten willing to

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Speaker 1: bend their idea of a traditional offense to make something work.

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Speaker 1: So once that all comes together, like, we're not going

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Speaker 1: to you know, the game is going to be so

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Speaker 1: saturated that we're done getting attached to this idea of

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. Like I think that they're going to

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Speaker 1: be as replaceable as you know, maybe a really good

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Speaker 1: wide receiver or defensive end, like you can move on

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Speaker 1: and you can make it work without them. I think

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Speaker 1: it's been It's it's hard for Jets Vence because you

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00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: really did invest in Donald and everything pointed to him

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Speaker 1: being the right guy right down to like we talked

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Speaker 1: about West West Uh saw good things from Donald. We

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Speaker 1: talked about Tony Romo talked about how he saw special

548
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Speaker 1: things and special trades and an a lot of smart

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Speaker 1: football people. I think Donald's a player and and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people still think you could be a player.

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Speaker 1: Dan Orlovski at ESPN is a vocal supporter of Donald Um.

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Speaker 1: And he's actually younger than Gardner Minshew. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: twenty three still, which is insane. So there is there

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Speaker 1: is this path where it's like, could he get straightened

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00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: out in the right situation a la Tannehill ala Alex Smith,

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Speaker 1: But at the same time with a new regime with

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Speaker 1: the Jets, um with Joe Douglas now firmly in charge

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Speaker 1: and handling all aspects of the roster building with Robert

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Speaker 1: Solo there, it just makes too much sense, I think,

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Speaker 1: at the number two pick to get a fresh start there.

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Speaker 1: Soannehill is a good comp because he came into a

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Speaker 1: terrible situation in Miami and played receiver in college. And

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Speaker 1: it's like you saw things like Tannehill was average from

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Speaker 1: the jump, and I guess that's that's where you hope

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Speaker 1: there's some GM like like a Lewis Riddick um if

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Speaker 1: he was in charge of a team that like still

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Speaker 1: believes in his college evaluation so much that he'll give

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Speaker 1: up a pick for m I'm not even sure that

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Speaker 1: guy is out there though, because because what he's shown

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Speaker 1: on tape, it's just he's never shown to be like

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Speaker 1: average like Tannehill did. Right, That's my question, Just like

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Speaker 1: I don't understand, like what where all this interest is

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Speaker 1: coming from? But tbd um in other quarterback news check

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Speaker 1: back in on this Russell Wilson situation. Wilson kicks started

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Speaker 1: a lot of chatter and a lot of phone calls

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Speaker 1: UH being made when he told a couple of different

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Speaker 1: media outlets that he's sick of being hit and essentially

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Speaker 1: that improvements need to be made with Seattle to get

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Speaker 1: over the hump uh and get back to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: NFL Networks Tom Pelasero reported UM earlier this month. The

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Speaker 1: teams have continued to call the Seahawks about Wilson's availability,

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Speaker 1: and then Michael Silver, our own Michael Silver at the

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Speaker 1: NFL Media reports the teams believe a deal with Wilson

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Speaker 1: would start with three first round picks, and uh Connor

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Speaker 1: like we we talked about this grag a little bit

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Speaker 1: with Deshaun Watson as well, like, is there a limit

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Speaker 1: with with when you're coming up with random trade cop

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Speaker 1: station packages for a true superstar quarterback? Is it where

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00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 1: does it get ridiculous? Is it five first round picks?

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Speaker 1: Ten first round picks? Like, at what point, uh do

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Speaker 1: we not buy into this being feasible? And his three

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Speaker 1: first round picks a worthy price for a thirty two

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Speaker 1: year old quarterback like Russell Wilson. I would compare first

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Speaker 1: round picks to Gin and Tonics, right, and that once

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Speaker 1: you get past three, uh, you're in a realm of

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Speaker 1: ridiculousness and trouble that doesn't uh doesn't offer any sort

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00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: of sound return for you. But yeah, I think that

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is interesting in that none of this is unintentional. Right,

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00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: this guy has his entire day planned out physically but

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Speaker 1: also mentally. Every day. This is exactly what I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do. This is how I'm going to think. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he has a mental processing coach that helps him along

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Speaker 1: in this way and to go out and state, um,

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Speaker 1: what he has to me feels planned and maybe he

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Speaker 1: wasn't getting what he wanted On the other end of

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00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 1: conversation sans with Seahawks management, whatever it is, but you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who knows exactly what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: You know, Aaron Rodgers gets a lot of credit for

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Speaker 1: doing that in Green Bay, but Russell Wilson is not

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Speaker 1: far behind in terms of someone with that power, that

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Speaker 1: cash a and that knows how to sort of move

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Speaker 1: the chess pieces around um on a on a sleepy

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Speaker 1: afternoon in the NFL offseason. Yeah, I mean it also

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Speaker 1: feels a bit quirky to me because the Seahawks don't

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Speaker 1: value gin and Tonics. I mean, I don't think I

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Speaker 1: can't think of a team that cares less about first

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Speaker 1: round picks. So why why what is in this for

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks on any level to trade them? Like and

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Speaker 1: again where right that Well, that's where it makes it.

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Speaker 1: I think there'd be plenty of wares. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: Denver for any of these teams. By the way, I

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Speaker 1: three sure, four or five? I don't know. I think

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Speaker 1: five I would give up, Like depending on who you are,

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Speaker 1: people get so I think the first round picks are

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00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: somewhat overrated. That you can you can, like look at

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Speaker 1: the last five Seahawks first round picks. Now that they're

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Speaker 1: they're a unique team, They're used drafting late, but James Carpenter,

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Speaker 1: Bruce Servant, Jermaine Effetti, Rashad Penny, L J. Collier, and

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Speaker 1: Jordan Brooks. I would trade fifteen of those guys for

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. What's the what's the difference? And you could

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Speaker 1: do that with more teams than you think in those

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Speaker 1: five would not app add up to me to to

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. So I I don't think for a team

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Speaker 1: like like the Patriots or the Broncos, teams that literally

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Speaker 1: have nothing right now, um that that that would be

636
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Speaker 1: too much, because you should be able to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to build a team other ways too, with the

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Speaker 1: rest of your draft picks and free agency and trades

639
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: and everything else. And that solves, like not only solves

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Speaker 1: the biggest thing that you could have, but gives you

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Speaker 1: a monster advantage at quarterback too. Here's something interesting I

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Speaker 1: learned from the latest Monday Morning Quarterback Peter King column. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He was talking about Deshaun Watson and he was cooking

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Speaker 1: up trade possibilities for the disgruntled Houston passer, and he said,

645
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: keep it mind, teams cannot trade draft picks beyond right now.

646
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: So I guess that's that's the limit. I don't know

647
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: if that's something that um is written in stone, but

648
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: the way King wrote it, it it seems like it is,

649
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: so you can't do more than three and then you

650
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: have to guess get creative second unpicks and then already

651
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: traded him. I guess if it was. I mean, you're

652
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,720
Speaker 1: just like you're shooting an arrow into a future GM.

653
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: But what about this Mark? How about this is a move?

654
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: What if you offered, um, let's use the Browns as

655
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 1: an example. If you offered ten first round picks between

656
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: two thousand forty and two thousand forty nine, would you

657
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: give that up for Russell Wilson? Hell? Yeah, Like that's

658
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: the kind of GM me and I would do, which

659
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: is like burry a few someone who's three, like four

660
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: months old right now. But we'll grow up to be

661
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 1: a general manager. They can deal with it. That Bill

662
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: is gonna come do though. I mean, maybe we will

663
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: ME for it. I hope we will. But it's not

664
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: that it's twenty years away. Imagine ten straight years without

665
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: first round pick and the guy, imagine you're twenty years

666
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 1: old at that point, you're like, why is my team

667
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: always terrible? Oh? We made the worst trade ever twenty

668
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: years ago and never got out of the divisional round.

669
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: It's like a million dollars every year until you know

670
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: Jesus returns. I guess that's why they make those rules,

671
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: because the NBA has running into this a little bit,

672
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: like the thunder have like thirteen first round picks through

673
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: seven or something like that, and the Pelicans have have

674
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 1: a ton of them too, and it it there is

675
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: something about it that it just feels ridiculous, but also

676
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: like an interesting experiment. That was always my favorite thing

677
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: to do on Madden that day, Like before the draft,

678
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: you would trade your entire roster for first round draft

679
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: picks and then you would end up with picks like

680
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: two through seventeen and you were just you were just

681
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: on the clock for like fifty five straight minutes and just, uh, yeah,

682
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: the fantasy is real. I've always and this goes all

683
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,680
Speaker 1: the way back to why not my not Days of

684
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast, And you're, well, I believe

685
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: the college football game, um connor um. But you have

686
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: always been a person that when you get into your

687
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: sport video game, you dive deep, like you really get

688
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: into the roster management and all that stuff. It's almost

689
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: like actually playing the games a secondary for you. And

690
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: I think there's a whole market of people that are

691
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, it's funny, Like after that we did

692
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,799
Speaker 1: that whole bit, it really did take off. Like there

693
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: are people who do that now, that's like what they

694
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: do on YouTube. I'm not saying that we we deserve

695
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: credit for it, but when you're old and you don't

696
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 1: have time for the franchise setting on a sports game now,

697
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: like the only video games that I play, my wife

698
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 1: and I play Family Feud for the Nintendo Switch at

699
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: night when the kids go to and so you you

700
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 1: have to build. You have to build like a character

701
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:48,359
Speaker 1: archetype from like this just man and like you're just like, yeah,

702
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: he's like a board businessman who's gonna moneyball family Feud

703
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: and figure out a way to you know, and then

704
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: the wheels are turning, even if I can't play mad necessarily.

705
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 1: Um on the subject of games, before we get into

706
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: the uh cuts and franchise tag players, Connor, you have

707
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: a new feature up um on SI dot com about Pokemon,

708
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: and I revealed my ignorance on this earlier. I referred

709
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 1: to it as as a science fiction game. Maybe I'm right.

710
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now you have a chance to really

711
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 1: provide some clarity there. But Cassius marsh Um, the linebacker

712
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: who also is such a fan of Pokemon that he's

713
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: taken his love to the next level, do you want

714
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: to share a little bit about uh, this piece that

715
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 1: you've written, because it's very interesting. So yeah, I'm so,

716
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm standing. You can't see behind me as my entire

717
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: Pokemon car collection. It's kind of like stacked at like

718
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,440
Speaker 1: a big tower. Um, I can. I can send you

719
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:50,479
Speaker 1: a picture afterwards. But we had someone email okay, yeah,

720
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: keep going. And so someone had emailed us at Science said,

721
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, there's a Steelers players thinking about opening a

722
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 1: Pokemon card store, and there's someone in our off us

723
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: that said that sounds like something that I'd be interested in.

724
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: And then one of our editors said, if Connor doesn't

725
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,800
Speaker 1: do this story, he's going to have a heart attack,

726
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: like he has to do it. Uh, And so everyone

727
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: called me and it was good, everything worked out. But yeah,

728
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: Cashus marsh is incredible. Uh magic the gathering uh savant. Uh.

729
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 1: He actually his car was broken into and he had

730
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: twenty tho dollars worth of magic the gathering cards stolen

731
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: when he was in Seattle, and then all of a sudden,

732
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: the community kind of got turned onto the fact that

733
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: he was into it. He became this sort of like

734
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: athletes surrogate for trading card games. And he's like, you

735
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: know what, I love this. I'm gonna open my own

736
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: store in the middle of the pandemic. I don't care

737
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: what's going on. And so I got a tour of

738
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: the store. It's just gonna open. Yeah, cash cards are limited,

739
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: just go open next week and it's legit like he has. Uh.

740
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: It was just like surreal, like all the conversations that

741
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: I've ever had with players about things that they don't

742
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: want to talk about and things that really I don't

743
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: want to talk out either, and then now here I

744
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: am with like an NFL player being like, wait is

745
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: that a Is that a first edition based up Blister

746
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: pack right there? And he's like, oh yeah, that's like

747
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: can can you zoom in on that real quick? And

748
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, oh you've all the Team

749
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: Rockets sets. Okay, good, good good, you know, and uh

750
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: so it was cool, but you know, they're really like

751
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: I got to talk to some of the people who

752
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: are kind of steeped in the magic the gathering world,

753
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: and it's a really neat story, like parents are sending

754
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: him thank you's uh for making it seem a little

755
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: more mainstream, a little less like hard quote air quotes nerdy,

756
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:35,760
Speaker 1: and it does sort of bridge that classic divide between

757
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: the jock and the nerd. And I do think that

758
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: there is like a cool thing that he's doing there.

759
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 1: There is sort of like a you know, another step

760
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: toward acceptance, if you if you will. I think also

761
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: like I mean, if I were to pick an NFL

762
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,760
Speaker 1: player that would be operating in Pokemon realms, uh, Cassius

763
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: Marsh wouldn't be the first. He's uh. He's like a giant,

764
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,800
Speaker 1: muscle bound figure with uh. His both arms are canvas

765
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: with tattoos from shoulder to wrist, and here he is playing.

766
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: It's not a child's game at all. I guess it's collectors.

767
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 1: I don't know how to describe it. You do it

768
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: better than you send cards to my kids. They still

769
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: remember you for that. M that's right. I'm uh, yeah,

770
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm cool in that way. I like you

771
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: are still still collecting, still still trucking. I like this

772
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 1: quote from marsh All, of this stuff, it's art for

773
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: the new generation. These cards are similar to buying Picasso

774
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: their high end collectibles, high end art. A lot of

775
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: these pieces are extremely rare. Some of these sports cards

776
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: are one of one. It's like getting a personal piece

777
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,240
Speaker 1: from a famous artist. It's just in its infancy right now,

778
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: do you have what kind of value do you have

779
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: in that room here in right now? So I I

780
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: started clearing out stuff that I had additional, um, additional

781
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: things of during the pandemic, and uh, I was able

782
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 1: to sell cards for a pretty decent amount of money. UM.

783
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: And I posted my entire collection and then I immediately

784
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: like yanked it back off the bay because I was like,

785
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: you know what am I gonna do? Like, you know,

786
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: my kids aren't gonna care about this, And then I

787
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: was like, but what if they do? And like so

788
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: I all of a sudden like grabbed it, grabbed it

789
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: and took it down offline. But it's it's fun, you know.

790
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: That's that's something like got into when I was a

791
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: little kid, hardcore. And then cash Is March and I

792
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: were talking about this. You go to college and you

793
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: give everything away because you think God if anybody finds

794
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,120
Speaker 1: out that I do this, they're gonna make fun of me.

795
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: And then you get to your dorm room and everybody

796
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 1: has a game boy, Like there was ten people on

797
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:30,439
Speaker 1: my floor that we're all playing Pokemon, and I was like, wait,

798
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: this is okay, Like why did I why did I

799
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: get rid of this? And uh So after once you

800
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: have like a little bit of disposable income, you get

801
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: back into it a little bit just to sort of

802
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: have something to do help your zone out. Excellent, check

803
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: it out. Um. You can go to Conor's Twitter page.

804
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: Easiest way to find it um at c O N

805
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: O R O r R. What a name it is?

806
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,880
Speaker 1: Also and it's on SI dot com. All right, let's

807
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: stand is that's solve your science fiction issue here have you? Well,

808
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: I still don't know what they are. I don't know

809
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: like what Pokemon is like a cartoon, but it's like

810
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: a like an are the aliens or what? I still

811
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: don't really know what they are. And the magic there's

812
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: there's wizards involved in stuff. So I don't but I

813
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,320
Speaker 1: don't judge. I just don't understand it. It's a world

814
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: that's strange to me. Like when I was in college,

815
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I had a a roommate. He was a senior. It

816
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: was the first place dorm I got put into. So

817
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,759
Speaker 1: it was just a mix of guys. And he would

818
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 1: have like dungeons and dragons battles with these other guys,

819
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: and they all looked like Gareth from the UK Office.

820
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:33,879
Speaker 1: Like I was like, all right, well, that's a whole

821
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: thing that I'm not really plugged into, but I know

822
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: it's got popularity. I would say that pokemon are more

823
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: like animals that you would encounter uh in the wild

824
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 1: and then domesticate, and then they help you along your

825
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: adventure uh to uh fame and prominence, but also self discovery.

826
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,399
Speaker 1: That would be the best way that I would get

827
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,399
Speaker 1: I like that. I mean, that's interesting. All right, let's

828
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: get into uh. Let's move on now. And Greg, like

829
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: I said, you've been busy. You've been pounded out bangers.

830
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: That's what you do, You pound out bangers from your

831
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: little home office behind closed doors. And um, let's let's

832
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: dig into let's you made it sound so weird that

833
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: and like animals, you meet in the forest and they

834
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: advance your life along. A lot happening here, a lot

835
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: of it just sitting on the couch in the main room. Really,

836
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, you pound out bangers in the main couch. Okay, yeah,

837
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 1: with just the madness going around me. There's something about

838
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: like sitting back here, like at a desk, uh, you know,

839
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 1: when you're not podcasting, that feels like it's too much,

840
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: like it's even it's too close to go into the office.

841
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: I'd rather just sit on the couch. All right, I'm

842
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,680
Speaker 1: with you. All right, let's get into it. We'll start

843
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: with some We're gonna get to some cuts, some surprise cuts.

844
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: Um but um. And it should be known by the

845
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: way that we have a little bit um of an

846
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: issue here because Greg has been writing about this stuff

847
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: on our website for years. Connor does the same thing

848
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: for s I that means double the double the power.

849
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: But there can only be one that truly sits the

850
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: top the throne as the true master of this type

851
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: of article. And and Mark is going to let us

852
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 1: know who that is at the end of the show.

853
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:29,360
Speaker 1: Perfect Um. Anyway, let's start with the two tho um

854
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: NFL franchise slash transition tag Primer Colin, who are the

855
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: no brainers? Debatable candidates? Headlines I never did a headliners

856
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 1: sometimes I guess it's it's s c O. But there's

857
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: a lot anyway. Um, all right, Greg, let's start with

858
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,800
Speaker 1: the no brainers, and UM, it should be known. Everybody

859
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: should be aware that just because the team tags somebody

860
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that player is gonna play for the team. UM.

861
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: So I'm curious Greg setting it up that way. You

862
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: have dac A top the list, Allen Robinson wide receiver

863
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: the Bears, Chris Godwin wide receiver of the Bucks, uh

864
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: Teller Moten of the the Panthers, Moton Moten, the tackle,

865
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: Kenny Golladay wide receiver, Lions. Okay, of those guys, who's

866
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: the most likely or who are the guys you see

867
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,720
Speaker 1: there that could get moved you think, and who's definitely

868
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: playing for their team. Ian's putting out a little bit

869
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: of like watch Allen Robinson possibly get traded or maybe

870
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: Gola Day, Like doesn't really make sense for them to

871
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 1: be paying sixteen million dollars when they're rebuilding, so they

872
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: could be possible trades. But it gets to the point of,

873
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: like all these teams that are people spend so much

874
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: time in January of like, these are the free agents

875
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: we want to get and a lot of them. Are

876
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: these three receivers, you know, Robinson, Godwin and Golladay, and

877
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: none of them are gonna be available except maybe in

878
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: a trade that's gonna cost a lot. And I've been

879
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: saying up the list, you know, the free agency list,

880
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: and man, I think it's bad this year. Usually I'm

881
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: kind of pumping it up, and especially at receiver, it's bad.

882
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,359
Speaker 1: So maybe some team I would give up a nice

883
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: pick for Allen Robinson and give him money. I would

884
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: give up a second round pick at the least, So

885
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: I think the Bears could get something. But the most

886
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: likely outcome is they're all with their teams and they're

887
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: all staying put because like, letting go of good guys

888
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: is stupid. Allen Robinson seems, you know, there's a continued

889
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: streak of um. He seems a little disenfranchised, and I

890
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: don't blame him. I would love to see Allen Robinson

891
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: with a functional quarterback for the first time in Earth history.

892
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it's happening with the Bears, or I

893
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 1: am sure it's not happening with the Bears all of

894
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,399
Speaker 1: a sudden, then he'll just end up back in Jacksonville.

895
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 1: The circle of life. It always drops you back off

896
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,760
Speaker 1: in in northern Florida. I mean, if he gets paid. Yeah,

897
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: he seems to be. He's the one that seems to

898
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: be trying, it's grease the skids to get out of town.

899
00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: He's doing like pot different podcasts and he's making it

900
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: pretty clear. Yeah. We we mentioned on this podcast a

901
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: few weeks ago that he's been dropping all sorts of

902
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: hints into social media about where he might want to

903
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,720
Speaker 1: end up. Um, all right, you have the category say yes,

904
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Exactly great? It's just I think

905
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: it was like an Elliott Smith reference from like eight

906
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: years ago that just thought of apathy has just stayed

907
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: there forever. But you know one of the all time

908
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 1: Elliott Smith songs. Okay, and of that of that category, Um,

909
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: what's the name that jumps out to you? That's a

910
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting uh um case. Aaron Jones. I

911
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: think the more I thought about it makes sense to

912
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,720
Speaker 1: keep for eight million dollars, which would be the franchise

913
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: or less on a transition tech. This is another one

914
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: where a little people around the league are like thinking,

915
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,799
Speaker 1: I just assumed he would be gone and they would

916
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: let him go. But that would annoy little people. I

917
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: don't know that. What is I caught that too? Yeah,

918
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: just me, you know, people like me a little catcher. Yeah, um,

919
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: they that they don't think it makes sense to actually

920
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: let him go. Aaron Rodgers would be piste connor. You

921
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: don't want to piss off Aaron Rodgers. Like why not

922
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 1: keep Aaron Jones for eight million dollars for one year?

923
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 1: I think that's a bargain. If you make Aaron Rodgers mad,

924
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: you're not going to get yelled at. It's like it's

925
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,800
Speaker 1: the it's the fear of what is going to happen,

926
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,120
Speaker 1: Like you're gonna make him mad, and then you're not

927
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: going to hear anything. And then like a month later

928
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,919
Speaker 1: you go to dinner at his house and the meal

929
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: is totally poisoned, you know. And that's like the kind

930
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: of person he is. And so yeah, I would a

931
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 1: percent like to keep Aaron Rodgers happy. And it totally

932
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: makes sense. If you look at where running back contracts

933
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: are headed, he could almost be getting sixty more than

934
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: that on the open market if a team, you know,

935
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: if there's a team that is going for it quote

936
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: unquote this offseason, Like I could see him being a

937
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: twelve million dollar a year, player for two for one

938
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: or two years, um and so eight million makes a

939
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: ton of sense to me. He cares if you drafted

940
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: his replacement already, you're gonna need three or four good

941
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 1: running backs. The Athletics field Kapedia believes Aaron Jones could

942
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 1: get up to fifteen million in a free agency per season.

943
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: Have we have there been enough running back deals that

944
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 1: have blown up in recent years that that market is

945
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,759
Speaker 1: not going to materialize for Jones. I know he's a

946
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: special player. Well, I know he's a very good, slash

947
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 1: great running back. But is he a special running back

948
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: that would get that kind of money? I think? I

949
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: think so. It only takes one team and we've seen

950
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: that time and time again the whole like running backs

951
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 1: are gonna get paid because it's all gone poorly, And

952
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 1: now even the Panthers are maybe trying to trade Christian McCaffrey.

953
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: Like that's all true. But everyone got paid, like Mixing

954
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: got paid, Camara got paid, Derrick Henry in his own

955
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:38,640
Speaker 1: way got paid. Like if you're that good that you

956
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: usually do so getting like a one year contract seems nice.

957
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: They have their cap issues, that's the problem. But they're

958
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: gonna cut some players. They're gonna cut Preston Smith. They

959
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 1: think they've already cut Um, a couple of players like

960
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: Christian Kirksey, and then you find a way to keep

961
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: the guys you want. So the Packers, you are in

962
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: one world, are going to get J. J. Watt, but

963
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: move on from one of the two past rushers they

964
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: got and in the off season a couple of years

965
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: ago that had become incredibly expensive for them at this point,

966
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 1: I think so, I think I possibly play J. J.

967
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: Wattt running back to replace ar that it could be okay,

968
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: that would be a great experiment just to line him

969
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: up back there for a whole year, and I would

970
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: love just to see what his numbers would be like.

971
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: Does he run for five yards? I mean, do we

972
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,240
Speaker 1: have a little bit of a test case with Derek Watt?

973
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, as you know been in the league for

974
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: a while. You know what, You've said it yourself. Why

975
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: are you picking up I'm not. I'm just saying he's

976
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,239
Speaker 1: a running back. Watch that we've seen, you know, fullback.

977
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: I guess, uh, what would J. J. Watt's longest run

978
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: by over the course of a year, eight yards? I

979
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: don't see that happening. Although I mean you need like

980
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: four smaller as Greg would say, little people, at most

981
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: four of them to drag him down. I would. I

982
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: would compare his output on a game by game basis

983
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: to what Levyan Bell did with the Jets. A lot

984
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: of one to two yard runs and maybe a nine

985
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,479
Speaker 1: yard or when the in the crowd had like, oh yeah,

986
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: he's we I was putting together, like I said, that

987
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: free agency list and I'm doing the running backs or whatever,

988
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking like, oh, was Levyan Bell's career over?

989
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: That was crazy? Like that was fast. It happens really fast.

990
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: Like Levan Bell, who I thought was almost a bargain

991
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: for the Jets, Like, I think there's a pretty decent

992
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: chance his career is over. I don't know, it's just like,

993
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: don't don't have your kids to be running back. But

994
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 1: he was so selfless to take the year off and

995
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 1: and for all running backs, uh, you know, nothing but

996
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 1: praise he came. Yeah, he came. He went away for

997
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: that year and he came back a different guy. It

998
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: just it wasn't there anymore a third of the guy.

999
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: You could say that all right on the before we

1000
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: move on to surprise cuts, Greg so on the Leaning? No,

1001
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: is that an Elliott Smith song as well? No? No,

1002
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: that's just like you know the Lean, Yes, the Lean? Now? Oh, okay,

1003
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: is that? What is that? You have Shaquille Griffin Griffin

1004
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: the cornerback for the Seahawks of the time, popitalist, Matt

1005
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: Milano the linebacker for the Bills. You've got a couple

1006
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: of linemen for the paths. Uh tell us about this listen?

1007
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:10,200
Speaker 1: Is there anyone you would disagree with? Connor? Especially if

1008
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: you have a list that like Curtis Samuel is a

1009
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,400
Speaker 1: guy I think we'll get paid a lot. Joe Tuney

1010
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: is gonna get paid a lot. There's a chance. I

1011
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick will just eat the poop, as you

1012
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: would say, Dan, and just paid Joe Tuney like eighteen

1013
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: million dollars a year because he just feels like dumb

1014
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: for letting him go and having tagged him and not

1015
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: signing him to a long term deal a year ago.

1016
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: Otherwise he's gonna be like incredibly rich Joe Tuney. I mean,

1017
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's a sandwich prop Greg. I

1018
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: think if he's not on the Patriots that think the

1019
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Jets would go all out for him because they were

1020
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: ready to make the move last year, and then Tuney

1021
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 1: was a surprise. Uh tag. I think some of them

1022
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: are interesting, like if you look in New Orleans at

1023
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: like Hendrickson and how insane their cap situation is, and

1024
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: it just it just goes to show that we are saying,

1025
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: right now, oh, this team will not use the salary cap.

1026
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: This team will not sign a guy to a end

1027
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,840
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollar deal. And then all of a sudden,

1028
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: like there's just this switch that flips, and it teaches

1029
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 1: us all what we learned every year is that none

1030
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 1: of our understanding of the cap is even close to

1031
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,200
Speaker 1: what it needs to be, and it's all mysticism and

1032
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,760
Speaker 1: it's just an excuse for teams not to pay players.

1033
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: And then as soon as you go well, and then

1034
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have twenty million dollars in

1035
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: cap space and you don't know how it happened, and

1036
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: like field Yates tweets, well, it was just a series

1037
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: of small corrections in the back end of the deal.

1038
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: If you you know, five cents here and there, and

1039
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you have a hundred million dollars

1040
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,080
Speaker 1: in cass. That was not a Field Yates impression. That

1041
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: was like a please feel I'm a big fan of yours.

1042
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: Don't don't think that I was making fun of you.

1043
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: But I would say it's just more like it's that

1044
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: and it's not just Field. It's like anybody who's corner

1045
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: it is a corner of his. Yeah that it would

1046
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 1: it be. It's sort of a collective voice of anybody

1047
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: in that corner who really nails the deep minutia of

1048
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: of contract. Mickey him as is the king of that.

1049
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: The Saints, I think there is something to that Connor

1050
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: that like they're trying harder. Yeah, shuffling. It's the same

1051
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: thing with the rant. Every year we hear the rant,

1052
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,279
Speaker 1: all the all the rams they've given it up. There

1053
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: goes their window like that they're in salary cap how

1054
00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you can if you especially if your

1055
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:18,359
Speaker 1: owner has got enough money and to figure it out

1056
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 1: to just give people cash up front and keep just

1057
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: spreading out to the future, like it's always the spaceship

1058
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 1: is always going up. You can find a way. It's

1059
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: like your neighbor who you have said this on another

1060
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 1: podcast before, but like you're looking around and You're like,

1061
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 1: I've sneakily googled how much you make? How is your

1062
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: house so much nicer than mine? You know? And you

1063
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,720
Speaker 1: just start like and you just start like looking around,

1064
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: and then it's just like, well, if you reverse the

1065
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: mortgage and then you triple the mortgage, and then you

1066
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 1: have mortgage, you know, and then all of a sudden,

1067
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,719
Speaker 1: they gave me a check for eighty million dollars, and

1068
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: it's like, how the how the hell does that work? Wait?

1069
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 1: How do you know how much your neighbors make? There's

1070
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,879
Speaker 1: a lot happening there. Connor, Oh boy, do we want

1071
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:05,239
Speaker 1: to get curious? We're all curious. Uh, we're all reporters here.

1072
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: You're a you're a Yeah, you're a journal We haven't

1073
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: been doing great journal work lately, or at least aggressive

1074
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: journal work. But so is it? Go you find their

1075
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: tax reports or something? Is that what you do? Take

1076
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 1: us through it? Go ahead? Nobody's listening. Go ahead. I

1077
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: would just say that anything is possible if you put

1078
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: your mind to it, and if you're connected to the internet.

1079
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: So we'll leave it at that. I feel like that's

1080
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 1: a comfortable way I will say. Speaking of journals, this

1081
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,480
Speaker 1: one line from Greg. I was my favorite line in

1082
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: this entire article. The Associated Press reports that Matt Milano

1083
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: will test free agency COMMA and who am I to

1084
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: argue with such a monolith? This continues a b line

1085
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: of Greg's habits, still constantly bury the Associated Press whenever

1086
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: he has that's not a burrier. What is the problem

1087
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: with the Associated I don't know this at all. We

1088
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: all have little biases that come out in our writing,

1089
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,879
Speaker 1: and for Greg it's it's usually you're target at the AP.

1090
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know what this is all about. I

1091
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: don't know how your words, but well, the monolith part,

1092
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:17,000
Speaker 1: it just like when it's something it feels like, okay,

1093
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,239
Speaker 1: well that's just a fact. There's no they are. They

1094
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 1: are the Associated Press. They cannot get it wrong. Who

1095
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: who would we be to argue with that? If you're

1096
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: talking about way back in the day not wanting to

1097
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:31,480
Speaker 1: use our AP articles. I mean, that's just because I

1098
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: liked Mark Sessler and Connor Or and Chris Westling and

1099
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: Dan hanss Is writing so much no order. I just

1100
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: remember when I came to the NFL, It's like you'd

1101
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: see all these AP articles on the front page. It's like,

1102
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 1: what are we doing here? Let's justify our paychecks. Mark

1103
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: was the master of UH. If anybody has ever read

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00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: an Associated Press article, right, it comes with the dateline

1105
00:56:56,440 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: and then the long M dash and then the date Yeah,

1106
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: the dateline in parentheses and then the long M dash

1107
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 1: and then the A P and then it gets into

1108
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: the news. And when I first started working at NFL Network,

1109
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: Mark used to send And it's a tradition that I

1110
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: carried on UH to s I and I've got tweaked

1111
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: out a few teammates from time to time where he'll send,

1112
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: like UH an a p R. He'll work up like

1113
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: a four hundred word AP article and he would send

1114
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,959
Speaker 1: it in our chat client of like, you know, Mark

1115
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,240
Speaker 1: Sanchez arrested in high high octane you know, car Chase

1116
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: Sting or whatever, and like, but it looks so official

1117
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: because it's got that AP attachment on it, and so

1118
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, I UM, I did one not too long ago.

1119
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,920
Speaker 1: I texted all my coworkers and I just said, oh

1120
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: MG and all caps, and I sent it to our

1121
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: group chat and then I did an a P out

1122
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: of New Orleans that Cooper Manning had been arrested for

1123
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: embezzling like millions of dollars um and and trying to

1124
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: like corner some like rubber market or something like that,

1125
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: and like they're like, oh my god. And the editor

1126
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: was like, all right, you know, let's uh, let's start

1127
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 1: mobilizing on this. You know, you're hoping to cause like

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00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: sheer panic. It's not gonna last for more than four seconds,

1129
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: but you just want that four second panic mode. You

1130
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: also don't want it to get out the door and

1131
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: get kicked upstairs, because then you have a problem. You know,

1132
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 1: that's true. It's like a very fine line, the needle

1133
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: of a threat. All right, let's uh, let's swing to

1134
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 1: the UM cut Candidates two thousand twenty one A f

1135
00:58:25,960 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: C slash NFC Cut Candidates Colin Viable Releases and Potential

1136
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: Surprises by Greg Rosenthal. Um. Right at the top on

1137
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: the A f C side of things, you got von Miller.

1138
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: And it's kind of crazy to think about von Miller

1139
00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: being elsewhere, but he gets paid a very high salary.

1140
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: He's not the same guy he was. Potentially, he's coming

1141
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: off a season that he had missed due to injury,

1142
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: and he's got some off the field stuff. Greg. It

1143
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: all feels like it's adding up to um a end

1144
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: of the road with Denver. The has logic. Yeah, I

1145
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: think even before he got hurt and before the off

1146
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:07,439
Speaker 1: the field stuff, they might have found it hard to pay,

1147
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: you know, to not try to save eighteen million against

1148
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: the cap. He seems like one of those guys though,

1149
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,400
Speaker 1: that could have a nice little late season run, I

1150
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,080
Speaker 1: mean late career run that he will have interests. Like

1151
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: usually these big name guys, they get overrated in free agency.

1152
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: You know, Connor thinks so like the big names, but

1153
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: he seems like he could actually make a difference at

1154
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: some point. Still. Yeah, I mean he's one of those

1155
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: guys that still the game plan would be dictated to

1156
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: to you. And even if that's all you bring to

1157
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: the table, you are handing your defensive coordinator more tools

1158
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 1: in the tool belt, which I think is a valuable commodity.

1159
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: Greg Mark, what are you seeing here? Um? That jumped

1160
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: out to you. You know the thing, it's not so

1161
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 1: much about a specific player, but watching what the Eagles

1162
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: and Saints are doing. The Eagles, Um, Greg, you mentioned

1163
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 1: like multiple wide receivers, and by the time the article

1164
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: was up, you were correct on ah Sean Jeffrey you're

1165
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: correct onto Sean Jackson and there could be more. Um,

1166
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,480
Speaker 1: zach Ertz is someone that could go. And I just

1167
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: sort of like the Eagles are gonna look so different.

1168
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,840
Speaker 1: But we talked about the cap not mattering and all

1169
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: this other business. Um. I do think it matters if

1170
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 1: you're the Saints because I can't remember a team and

1171
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: quite the fix that they're in and just how different

1172
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: these two teams could look next season. The Chiefs are

1173
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: another one, like they're two tackles Mitchell Schwartz and Eric Fisher.

1174
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: You could cut them, but there it's all like cutting

1175
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: guys that you would want to cut anyways. In the

1176
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,800
Speaker 1: Saints case, they there, it's just like not resigning Um

1177
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson and Marcus Williams maybe, but they Yeah, they're

1178
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: among the teams of the Patriots I would throw in

1179
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,800
Speaker 1: there as a team that's kind of like look incredibly different.

1180
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: I've heard some like zach Ertz trade talk and feels like,

1181
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: just like good luck with that. I'm not sure they're

1182
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: going to be able to get anything or get anyone

1183
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 1: to pay eight million dollars to zach Ertz after he

1184
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: had like three hundred yards and give up a draft

1185
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: pick for him. But like some of these teams that

1186
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: the Washington football teams, another one that feels like a

1187
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: year late of Rivera coming there that they could just

1188
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: blow up a machine Land and Collins, Alex Smith. It's

1189
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: awkward to cut Alex Smith. They know they don't want to,

1190
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,280
Speaker 1: but that's probably coming like it does feel because of

1191
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,680
Speaker 1: the cap stuff. Like Connor said, people will just use

1192
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: it as an excuse to like release a ton of players,

1193
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 1: especially this year. There's you know, the it's amazing the Eagles,

1194
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: that Super Bowl team is basically gone, like they're totally

1195
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: wiped out at this point. And Earth's, you know, he's

1196
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: interesting to me, and I know people that watching Eagles

1197
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 1: very closely, We'll tell you that he was not a

1198
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,560
Speaker 1: guy that was resembled the playmaker and the guy that

1199
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: caught the game go ahead touchdown in the fourth quarter

1200
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. He doesn't seem like that guy anymore.

1201
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: But you know, guys like Earth's and Anthony Barr who

1202
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: you have on your list as a potential surprise cut

1203
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 1: of the Vikings Chandler Jones, I would hesitate unless the

1204
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: team is having really um really difficult times with a

1205
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 1: cap and they need to find ways to get under

1206
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: and that certainly is the case this year with the

1207
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: cap going down, which was not something anybody could have predicted.

1208
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: But when you have impact star players are coming off

1209
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 1: a year or they just weren't physically right, uh, that

1210
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 1: it could end up blown up in your face if

1211
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 1: they get healthy and get back to their old ways

1212
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: on a new team. And it was just like, maybe

1213
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 1: we should have been a little more patient here, especially

1214
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: with a realistic length preseason in some way, shape or form, right, Like,

1215
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, some of these guys don't panic Mark. You know,

1216
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 1: Mark does not want to see that preseason. Neither do I,

1217
01:02:39,640 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: so neither does any of us. Really, I gotta get

1218
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: out of it. I'm an outlier there now you're not.

1219
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: You're not, but it was your corner. I need to

1220
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 1: I need the preseason. I need to be at a

1221
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 1: Banal Jets minicamp practice in in April just to get outside.

1222
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: I gotta do it. I need to be there. So

1223
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: we all must suffer through. You know, we throwing the

1224
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:05,280
Speaker 1: whole and that's five weeks. The Green and White scrimmage, practice,

1225
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,920
Speaker 1: White Scrimmage, the Snoopy Bowl. Dan, how can you come on.

1226
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, let's they discontinue that, I believe, which is

1227
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,360
Speaker 1: really a shame because it's it's cynical people like the

1228
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: Mark Susslers and the Greg Rosenthal's that probably caused the

1229
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 1: MetLife Inc. To put the trophy away for good instead

1230
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 1: of one game. That's one game that I did that

1231
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: I did um celebrate, I mean until you know Mark

1232
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,960
Speaker 1: Sanchez had what was it just collar bone snapped like

1233
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of the Snoopy Bowl. Totally it

1234
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 1: was a shoulder injury. Was a shoulder injury that I mean,

1235
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: my AP report was not far off on Mark Sanchez

1236
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 1: that day followed the infamous bloodied Eli Manning from the

1237
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Do you remember the Snoopy Bowl? Do you

1238
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: remember that when Eli Manning was sacked by Calvin Pace

1239
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: and there was blood flying from his nose. And then

1240
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: the next year Rex Ryan put it on the cover

1241
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: of the game notes before the Super before the Snoopy Bowl.

1242
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: That was like the great like one of the great moments.

1243
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 1: It's funny how like how small um and silly things

1244
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: can get and how high school things can get in

1245
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: the NFL when you cover it as closely as we

1246
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,600
Speaker 1: have for years that year was yes, after the Giants

1247
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: I believe it won a Super Bowl or maybe not,

1248
01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: but it was two thousand nine actually, and the new

1249
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium was opening and the Jets and Giants had

1250
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,040
Speaker 1: both footed the bill for it together, and the Jets

1251
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,560
Speaker 1: were no longer a tenant, and there was this idea

1252
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: like who gets to play the first preseason game in

1253
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,400
Speaker 1: the new stadium. And it was such an issue between

1254
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:40,479
Speaker 1: the Jets and Giants that they were like, we need

1255
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: to move up the Jets Giants preseason game from Week

1256
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 1: three to week one, so they so both organizations get

1257
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: to have the honor of playing the first game at

1258
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium. How stupid is that sometimes that you could

1259
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,280
Speaker 1: proudly say that you were the first team to play

1260
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:06,320
Speaker 1: in the ugliest stadium. There's no replacing the moment, where

1261
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,439
Speaker 1: as a fan, um, you walk through the parking lot

1262
01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: that was the old stadium to the stadium that seems

1263
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,840
Speaker 1: exactly like the old stadium and was made forty years ago,

1264
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: yet it's just like brand new. You can't replace the

1265
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: chills that that come about mat Life Stadium is like

1266
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: if you're a baseball fan, um, when the White Sox

1267
01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: built their replacement for Comiskey Park in the early nineties,

1268
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: and it was a very traditional like seventies eighties style stadium.

1269
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,920
Speaker 1: And then a year later or two years later, Camden

1270
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 1: Yards shows up, as Connorwell knows, and that started the

1271
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: craze of the retro ballpark and people realizing, oh, we

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Speaker 1: could like imprint our personality and make it like this

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Speaker 1: like special place to go see a game. And the

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Speaker 1: White Sox were like, what the hell, we don't get

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Speaker 1: to be a part of this. Like I feel like

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01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: that with a lot of these NFL stadiums that opened

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Speaker 1: that when the Jets and Giants did their facility and

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01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: at the time a lot was made of it. Then

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Speaker 1: there's a billion dollars and all this stuff like um,

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Speaker 1: or maybe that was Geral World, but um that all

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01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: the new stadiums are coming out now and we're gonna

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Speaker 1: be working at the new Rams Chargers facility once this

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01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:21,360
Speaker 1: COVID thing wraps up. Um. It seems like these statiums

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01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 1: are really cool now and like they like when we

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Speaker 1: went to Minneapolis for that Super Bowl, Like that's an

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Speaker 1: amazing building. Uh with the vikings anyway, we digress. The

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Speaker 1: architect like somebody that I had talked to you with

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01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,200
Speaker 1: the background and design once and not really in football,

1289
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: was like, did they realize that the most iconic skyline

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01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: in in the country is like literally five minutes that

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Speaker 1: way and they just they just they just directed the

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Speaker 1: steel wall in front of it so that they would

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Speaker 1: see it. You know, visionarias Conner visionarias. It feels like

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Speaker 1: us swinging a miss um. Anyway, Greg, before we go, well,

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Speaker 1: let's put our focus where it needs. Anything else you

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Speaker 1: wanted to kind of highlight here and of course go

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01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: to NFL dot com slash Rosenthal to check out his

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01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:09,440
Speaker 1: writings in a more in depth way. But names that

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01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 1: jump out to you that would be surprises, but also

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01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 1: there it makes sense at something now. I was surprised

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01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,200
Speaker 1: how much Cowboys fans think Jalen Smith might get cut.

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01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 1: That does not seem like a Jerry Jones move to me,

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01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,800
Speaker 1: to like admit a mistake two years into a into

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01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: a Monster extension. But I think that's kind of the

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01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:28,680
Speaker 1: levels of Jalen Smith's struggles last year, Like if they're

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01:07:28,680 --> 01:07:30,959
Speaker 1: gonna cut them, maybe they do it in August. John

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01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: Smokey Brown h there's an old West favor. He's something

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01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,800
Speaker 1: to keep an eye on. I think the bills like

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01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: wanna get aggressive and maybe need to open up some

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01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: cap space to do that. And I like John Brown

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01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: a lot, but he might be one guy who loses

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Speaker 1: his job because of that. Connor you had your own list.

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Speaker 1: Do you anything like Greg has mentioned here or that

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Speaker 1: you've seen that you disagree with vehemently and you have

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01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: to call his competency into question. The only thing that

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01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: I disagree with is that it wasn't up at eleven

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:00,120
Speaker 1: thirty last night when I was trying to finish. And

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01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: sometimes you just you know, you don't copy, but you

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01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: just make sure that you have everything kind of double check.

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01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:09,040
Speaker 1: You double check your work. And you know, after getting

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01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 1: two kids to bed, you just you know, two kids

1322
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:13,520
Speaker 1: under the age of two, you just don't feel like, uh,

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01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 1: you don't feel like being all that creative, you know,

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01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,280
Speaker 1: So take a peek, take a peek, just you know,

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:23,799
Speaker 1: it's like a cross cross checking makes sense. That's that's

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Speaker 1: largely what it is. Yeah, and less plagiarism. Who would

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Speaker 1: you take a peek? Ye? Right, I don't know if

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01:08:33,240 --> 01:08:35,840
Speaker 1: those things were up. Yeah, I definitely look at like

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01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,519
Speaker 1: the free agency list before I sent in my one,

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01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:41,720
Speaker 1: just to make sure I didn't miss people. I don't

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01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,640
Speaker 1: know if there were other tag primers. I guess I

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:45,600
Speaker 1: didn't check that out. But you check out like the

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Speaker 1: local guys who've really got, you know, the inside scoop

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01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: on the ravens and the little people. Of course, the

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01:08:51,320 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: little people you ask around a little bit. You just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: is this stupid? I mean, do you think to yourself, Greg,

1337
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 1: what would Dan and Mark do in this situation? Who

1338
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: would they be zero in on? No, it's funny because

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01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 1: good response. It's funny because Greg you you called out

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01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: damage checks sources on our last podcast, Like, I think

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01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: I know Greg's sources too, but I will not call

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Speaker 1: them out. I know who's I know his birdies. Well

1343
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 1: there was multiple this time, but yeah, some are you know,

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01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:24,439
Speaker 1: insiders at our company. Certainly I'm not giving anything away there,

1345
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: but but but others as well. All right, good stuff, good,

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Speaker 1: good stuff. You've said it all, Connor, I thank you

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01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 1: for it. Yeah, this was fun. We went so long.

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01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: You have to grab your power chord in the middle

1349
01:09:39,960 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 1: of the last segment. How is my transition? I've been

1350
01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:46,679
Speaker 1: like I've been infamous for this now, like throughout COVID

1351
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 1: For some reason, I just don't bring it with me

1352
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: when I go down to the basement to do this.

1353
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,040
Speaker 1: And um, before every show when we do our podcast,

1354
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,840
Speaker 1: our producers like, do you have your power chord? Uh?

1355
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,839
Speaker 1: Because we need to, like we need to stop pausing

1356
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: the show forty five minutes in for you to run

1357
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,439
Speaker 1: upstairs and get your power chord. Get another power chord

1358
01:10:05,439 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: would be what I'd say, s I step up to

1359
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: the play. Yeah, you gotta put that on s I.

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: Speaking of monoliths, come on though, Hey, subscribe new online

1361
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: product which is launched. It's great access to some really

1362
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 1: cool stuff. And buy the magazine, you know, like it's

1363
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: still like it's great. I was. I was reading it

1364
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:31,000
Speaker 1: the other day and it's just awesome. So I mean,

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01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: unless that's money that you would allocate to NFL media property,

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Speaker 1: UM sure. How many covers you up to, Connor s

1367
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 1: I covers which is the holy grail of sports writing,

1368
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 1: um or has been for most of our lives. How

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: many covers you got? Too good for you? So that's

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01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:48,920
Speaker 1: two more than I thought I would ever have. That's

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,960
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. Connors just yet another alumnus of NFL Media

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01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 1: who went on to greater things, and yes, check them

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01:10:56,360 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 1: out at SI dot com. Um, your podcast, I don't

1374
01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,680
Speaker 1: see you pluging your podcast in your Twitter profile, but

1375
01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: I assume that's still happening. The weak Side Podcast with

1376
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: Jenny brentis. Uh, we just did a really fun season

1377
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: wrap up show. Uh. Got some some really good feedback

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01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 1: from our listeners after, Like, I guess it's like our

1379
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: second full season. We have a logo now. Uh, it's

1380
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: it's fun. Yeah, cartoon like cartoon depictions of ourselves, which

1381
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 1: means you really have arrived in the podcast landscape. And

1382
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,320
Speaker 1: and I feel good about that. Yeah. I think the

1383
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,080
Speaker 1: key was getting Brier out of it. You know, it

1384
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:34,639
Speaker 1: was like it was a little bit of a wet

1385
01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 1: blanket you just gotta have, like the good you have

1386
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: to have it. It's all about vibes. So once you

1387
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 1: got Breer off the pod, I just think why I

1388
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:46,639
Speaker 1: left Albert When we were all in the podcast together.

1389
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: It was like making a soup with three really strong ingredients.

1390
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,599
Speaker 1: And you know, maybe Albert is saffron or shallots and

1391
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: they need to stand on their own. Uh. And so

1392
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,480
Speaker 1: obviously the Albert Bruce Show is excellent, so you should

1393
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: and now you understand how Jenny and Connor delivered the

1394
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:08,759
Speaker 1: news to Bert that he was no longer on their podcast.

1395
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,320
Speaker 1: It's like the uh, the will goo uh poster behind

1396
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,760
Speaker 1: you that I Am trying to Break your Heart documentary

1397
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 1: where Jeff Tweedy kicks him uh what's the name out

1398
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: of the band and he starts with every circle needs

1399
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 1: a center and uh and it's and it's basically not you,

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01:12:26,120 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, uh you it's me, but you do. And

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01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know why we tend to

1402
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,960
Speaker 1: ramble a little bit more when Connor's on, but you know,

1403
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:37,400
Speaker 1: it's a conversation. It's a free flowing conversation we did

1404
01:12:37,439 --> 01:12:40,839
Speaker 1: once upon a time. Uh. Go through our Twitter bios

1405
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: and then you critiqued each one and I just now

1406
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: have to deliver that critique to you, because, um, we

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01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: all love Jenny and you do great work and you're

1408
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 1: a natural podcaster. Just having that your staff writer, it's

1409
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,439
Speaker 1: a little bit too minimalist. Let's get the plug for

1410
01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: the podcast in there, and maybe the podcast numbers, will

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01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,639
Speaker 1: you know, shoot up a little. It's funny. I that

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01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: was my initial banging as he's Greg, as you're still

1413
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: just football changed and then you know, that was one

1414
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,679
Speaker 1: last great west memory was I didn't look at west

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01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: As before I came on, and then I just like

1416
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 1: unwittingly ripped it to shreds. And then I felt awful

1417
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 1: about it. And then you know, two years later at

1418
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, I did my list of things that

1419
01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: I hate, didn't look at his instagram and just like

1420
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: ripped it to shreds unwittingly, and I felt, you know,

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01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: he was a good sport about it, but I always

1422
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 1: I felt terrible about that. I think I was like

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01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,880
Speaker 1: all the people who cut their hamburger open and take

1424
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: a picture of it, and lest like I love doing that.

1425
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:44,840
Speaker 1: You know anyway, Connor, we really appreciate you've given us

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01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 1: the time, and yes, you were another favorite of Chris Westlings,

1427
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 1: and that's what we've kind of been doing in these

1428
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: shows um since his untimely passing, having some of his

1429
01:13:56,600 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 1: favorite people on that have been either friends or connected

1430
01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,840
Speaker 1: to the show or to the company, and you qualified

1431
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: as all three. So thank you, buddy uh for coming on,

1432
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,680
Speaker 1: share our memories and giving us your you know that

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01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: that Connor sizzle that you always bring. Well, thanks for

1434
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:14,599
Speaker 1: having me on and again, you know, for anybody who

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01:14:14,600 --> 01:14:18,320
Speaker 1: sees the go fund me for Lakisha and Lincoln. You know,

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,400
Speaker 1: anything that you guys can do to help make a

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01:14:20,439 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: difference there, um, you know, please continue to do so,

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01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 1: well said, Yes, check out the go fund me. It's

1439
01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: um pinned on all of our Twitter pages. All right,

1440
01:14:28,760 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: we'll be back on Thursday with our second episode of

1441
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 1: the week. Uh, thank you everybody for following along and

1442
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: we again appreciate all your support uh during this difficult

1443
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: time for the show. Uh. This is Dan Hanson signing

1444
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: off for a quiet storm for you kidding me? The

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01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,840
Speaker 1: old Boston Rickey, Ali and Red Cool last del Gar

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Speaker 1: sac