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Speaker 1: my guys man, welcome bro. You already know King of
Speaker 1: battle Rap, the King of battle rap. What makes you
Speaker 1: free styles? What makes you the king of battle rap er?
Speaker 1: I've been doing it before battle Leagues was battle leagues.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm the King of battle rap. Before they
Speaker 1: start up made it a corporate thing and bring it
Speaker 1: into the building and kind of monetized it. I was
Speaker 1: I was battle rapping. That's how I mean. What is
Speaker 1: about Philly man that the battle rap shit is just
Speaker 1: so like, you know, I feel like you guys are
Speaker 1: just like a walking Smack DVD out there. Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: it's real. The coach is real heavy. Out there is
Speaker 1: a Commonwealth's city, so it's like state and it's just
Speaker 1: like real competitive, and we all bunched in together. It's
Speaker 1: like row houses and so it's people on top of people.
Speaker 1: So the competitiveness is real heavy. So when it comes
Speaker 1: to battle rap is real aggressive and sometimes they can
Speaker 1: spill out into streets. I technically technically was in Philly once. Okay,
Speaker 1: but it was only because I rode the train through
Speaker 1: from DC to New York. But they did stop. There
Speaker 1: was like a stop in Chester and I looked out
Speaker 1: the window. Chester, Pennsylvania looks like it might be the
Speaker 1: worst place on the planet. No, it is. It's real bad.
Speaker 1: I remember just looking out the window on my train
Speaker 1: and there was like two like naked kids just in
Speaker 1: the streets running around, and I remember being like, where
Speaker 1: the fuck am like a third world country? Put my
Speaker 1: maps on said Chester and then I googled it and
Speaker 1: I was like always lit out here, shout out to Chester, man,
Speaker 1: I need to get out to Philly. Hey, what is
Speaker 1: the because I always hear if you go to Philadelphia
Speaker 1: that there is like the tourist cheesesteak spot, but then
Speaker 1: there's like the real spot, right Well, max Max is
Speaker 1: like the spot where you want to go to get
Speaker 1: a real, authentic cheese steak. Gino's is the tourist spots,
Speaker 1: So don't go to Gino's. I'm not going belittle any
Speaker 1: landmark in Philly, right It's not what I'm into. What
Speaker 1: I'm just saying overrated. If you want to go get
Speaker 1: authentic cheese steak, go to maxis broadinary. It's almost like
Speaker 1: when people come to LA and they expect Rosco's to
Speaker 1: be like the best food they were eating, and it's like, guys,
Speaker 1: it's just do I come here? That's what they say, Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: you want to go to rad school? Like it's okay,
Speaker 1: But I've been coming out here since the early two thousands,
Speaker 1: so I'm like over the like yeah, like the first
Speaker 1: time being out here type shit. So everybody want to
Speaker 1: come that come out La. They want to go to
Speaker 1: rad schools. But it's all right, yeah, I'm saying, but
Speaker 1: if you've been into Atlanta and Glad, it's just the
Speaker 1: same thing. Or if you go to Arizona go to
Speaker 1: Lolos Chicken and Waffles. I would argue to say it's
Speaker 1: the best chicken and waffle spot I've ever had shots
Speaker 1: to Lolos for sure. When did you feel like the
Speaker 1: battle rap shit? Because like you're I feel like you're
Speaker 1: really in your bag right now when it comes to
Speaker 1: like being looked at as like one of the elite
Speaker 1: guys in that world, Like when do you feel like
Speaker 1: you kind of had hit your stride in terms of
Speaker 1: getting your respect in that world? Because it's like a
Speaker 1: very it's like almost like a I feel like you
Speaker 1: could be a diehard hip hop head and not know
Speaker 1: what the fuck's going on in the battle rap world
Speaker 1: because they are so different, and it is like such
Speaker 1: a subgenre of It's almost like we have to be
Speaker 1: baptizing the battle rap coature. Now you have to go
Speaker 1: through something. You have to have a near death experience
Speaker 1: or com close to dying from them to even sanctify
Speaker 1: you as being anybody that has any validity of saying
Speaker 1: anything or speaking about battle rap coach. It's that intense, right,
Speaker 1: so I don't speak it. So with that being said,
Speaker 1: it's a high regard for battle rappers and their accountability.
Speaker 1: So over the weekend it was a battle rap. It
Speaker 1: was a battle big battle League. You were here, that
Speaker 1: was here for that. So it was the Ownership battle League,
Speaker 1: which in the main event being a King Bob versus Daylight.
Speaker 1: They like being a residence in West Coast, So yeah,
Speaker 1: like a beast, so shot them they like. And we
Speaker 1: are from the same battle rap click which is Dot
Speaker 1: Me t Rex, Murder, Moot, Daylight, Big Cannon, real deal.
Speaker 1: So is that's a serious crew. You guys are like
Speaker 1: the nWo battle Rap and a lot of flat from
Speaker 1: that from being from Philly and being that as a
Speaker 1: New York based click, but Daylights from l A right,
Speaker 1: so it's all over there. Yeah, is there other clicks
Speaker 1: like that? Yeah? You got gun Titles. You got the Goonies,
Speaker 1: which is aheaded by Twerk. You got gun Titles, which
Speaker 1: was kind of like Coke Coke Coke founded by h
Speaker 1: Tay Rock and sus Surf was so yeah, you got
Speaker 1: little like clicks dark Side, you got a bris Rowstein
Speaker 1: and t Top So it's like little sub clicks and
Speaker 1: what's the name of our nitties from Phoenix? Right from
Speaker 1: me from Phoenix? He's down with a fuck my bad
Speaker 1: gech Gotti and him are called every fucking bar e
Speaker 1: f B. I like that. See all this ship Like
Speaker 1: I know the names, but bro, I'm not in tune
Speaker 1: with the battleship like that. I just feel like I
Speaker 1: don't have the bandwidth to like learn this. Like when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, I used to download the battles
Speaker 1: on Napster, like when it was like Supernatural and Juice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those those guys is like almost like ancient artifacts compared
Speaker 1: to where it's at now. And then I would no
Speaker 1: disrespect for those guys. Guys are the fucking goats. They
Speaker 1: are the fucking gods of the ship with the freestyling
Speaker 1: off the top of the dunk ship in the room
Speaker 1: and all that. In the crowd, it's different. It's not
Speaker 1: brand motherfucker's got wavy hair, dreadlocks, bald these these crip
Speaker 1: members is blood members, Latin King Well no, and then
Speaker 1: like there was like the Smack DVD era and like
Speaker 1: I got my name because I used to sell a
Speaker 1: bunch of bootleg mixtapes and and DVDs and ship at
Speaker 1: the Swami, So I was like the Smack DVD eras
Speaker 1: are probably the highest peak of me being like super
Speaker 1: engaged in that ship. And then obviously I know who's
Speaker 1: killing it, Like I know yourself. I know murder Mook
Speaker 1: sues my boy rum Nitti is incredible. Uh. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: there's guys that, especially Loaded Lux, you know all these guys.
Speaker 1: Of course, there are legends that if you're a part
Speaker 1: of the culture, you have to know who they are.
Speaker 1: I'm just not I haven't bro I've watched a few,
Speaker 1: like in the last year, but like when there's these
Speaker 1: big events, I feel like I'll just catch the highlights
Speaker 1: on Twitter, right, So batter rap it's like a it's
Speaker 1: like a revolving door. So you're only good as your
Speaker 1: last battle and if you don't do very well, they
Speaker 1: put you in a box. So I mean, if you
Speaker 1: don't do other things to h to like to pose that.
Speaker 1: So I went and built the whole leverage on the
Speaker 1: other side of the spectrum with my music, reintroducing myself
Speaker 1: as an artist or red and creating myself always into
Speaker 1: the point and putting out a new project where I
Speaker 1: got the battle rap culture and there I got tay
Speaker 1: rock on there, I got method Man, I got Benny
Speaker 1: the Butcher, I got a vital Corey Guns, Beanie Siegel Freeway,
Speaker 1: I got all of like the top spinners on my Jones.
Speaker 1: So I used that the leverage and the buzz that
Speaker 1: I built with my freestyles on social media and the
Speaker 1: content and uh and and and the projects and the
Speaker 1: materity I was putting out outside of batter rap to
Speaker 1: leverage batter rap to get the bigger bags in the
Speaker 1: bigger looks. Because once you lose in the eyes of
Speaker 1: the culture, they put you in a certain box and
Speaker 1: it's like boxing. You got to climb back up the
Speaker 1: ranks until you get to the top brass and compete
Speaker 1: with like the top tier guys. And if you got
Speaker 1: the catalog, you got the music outside of it. It's
Speaker 1: almost like it it would behoove them to not include
Speaker 1: you and shit, because you got a fan base, you
Speaker 1: running it up on your own, you know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying for sure, and shout out. I mean a lot
Speaker 1: of there is there is a stereotype, and I don't
Speaker 1: know how true it is or not, but back in
Speaker 1: the day, there used to be a lot of the
Speaker 1: guys who did battle rap weren't great at making records.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the number one stigment. And I was
Speaker 1: the guy who bridged that gap gap. I was one
Speaker 1: of the first guys who started out battle rapping on
Speaker 1: the corners of Philadelphia and in front of the Chinese
Speaker 1: stalls and stuff like that, and actually took it corporate
Speaker 1: and made an album and came out with a full
Speaker 1: fledged album and you, I mean was able to you know,
Speaker 1: go like walk on, take a walk on both sides
Speaker 1: right and still having a seat planet and battle rap
Speaker 1: coach as well as like mainstream I mean releases and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Because at two thousand and eight, when
Speaker 1: I battled Mike signed the World Series of Hip Hop,
Speaker 1: I was still currently sign a boy and was like
Speaker 1: currently like back then, recording for my solo release. My
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Speaker 1: I go back, And that was before Smack was created.
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Speaker 1: but I embraced that fact. So that's why I'm here
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Speaker 1: he got signed. I forgot Diddy's assistant had a record
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Speaker 1: I always me and finds the worth. Always laugh about this.
Speaker 1: You don't even remember when you let Kanye in and
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Speaker 1: a minute, come out and gave me an open invitation
Speaker 1: to come you know, some writing sessions with him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I saw that. You know, there was the I
Speaker 1: don't know if that documentary is ever going to come out,
Speaker 1: but he was previewing a record and you were saying
Speaker 1: that you were on that record with him and Soldier Boy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well I did some references, so he was actually hearing
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Speaker 1: of the greatest artists of all time. It was just
Speaker 1: it's not like working for Diddy. Working for Ditty is
Speaker 1: like real. So okay, So everybody asked me why I
Speaker 1: put out so much material on why I'm so it
Speaker 1: seems like me, it's an easy transposition for me to
Speaker 1: keep putting out these constant freestyles. Well, when I came
Speaker 1: up in a bad boy system, they used to make
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Speaker 1: was doing a three verse song, I would have to
Speaker 1: write five verse fifteen verses per song. Wow, So and
Speaker 1: then you pick the best one, which usually is the
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Speaker 1: so I got thirteen extra I got fourteen extra verses
Speaker 1: just just just unused, unused. Do you still do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Every now and then. Well, back in the mixtape games,
Speaker 1: with mixtapes for Heavy, I would take the the the
Speaker 1: DJ Sycamores and all those type of guys. So, no
Speaker 1: matter whether I like the beat or not, And this
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Speaker 1: the lessons I got from Diddy. He was like, that's
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Speaker 1: so I take I take every beat off the beat
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Speaker 1: start writing for somebody else and they might not be
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Speaker 1: So when I do go do these writing sessions, it's
Speaker 1: not me physically half of the right now you can
Speaker 1: just I'm just pulling it out. I'm just pulling ideas
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Speaker 1: the new project out? Sure? Is this a mixing? This
Speaker 1: is a mixtape? Shut up, everybody. I know everything is digitized.
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Speaker 1: you find a commercial kitchen that does Postmates or grub
Speaker 1: hub shit, and then you have you have a restaurant
Speaker 1: virtually online and all those cities, and this kitchen handles
Speaker 1: the fulfillment. They're pretty much licensing your likeliness to sell
Speaker 1: your cheesecake, but they cook it. They have the realest.
Speaker 1: They just essentially give you a cut to use your likeliness.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, put me on. So now you like, like
Speaker 1: if you open like Postmates right now, you'll see like
Speaker 1: DJ Khaled has a restaurant Postmates, I got you, got you.
Speaker 1: So he doesn't have a restaurant, but he just they
Speaker 1: just selling his product they give. They using his likeness
Speaker 1: to sell. Yeah, it's kind of like a lot of
Speaker 1: people are doing the ghost kitchen waves and just to
Speaker 1: clean it up. The album is everywhere digitally everywhere. It's
Speaker 1: on Spotify, It's on Apple Music, Spotify, Apple Music, and
Speaker 1: it might be an odega there. It is all right, man,
Speaker 1: we'll look yo new YouTube video with the freestyle, so
Speaker 1: check it out. Appreciate you pulling up, brother. What's the
Speaker 1: next battle? Award? R b a ar pi that's versus
Speaker 1: a ward? Stay tuned? What is it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I was supposed to be on the May tenth card ARP.
Speaker 1: Holler at me. Do you battle people who are your friends? Ever? Always?
Speaker 1: I battle my fucking grandmother. If the check is right,
Speaker 1: I like it. There it is so I want no smoke, man.
Speaker 1: Est Appreciate your brother,