WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Every Little Step

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<v Speaker 1>Higain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals Booth Podcast, the Every Little Step Pot Take edition.

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<v Speaker 1>As the two and two Bengals look to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>climb in the AFC North as they face the Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens on Sunday Night Football coming up, I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Collinsworth, who will call the game on NBC with

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Tariko. Tyler Boyd joins me before returning to the

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<v Speaker 1>scene of his most famous NFL highlight. I'll discuss the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals running game woes with Dave Lapham and finally, it's

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<v Speaker 1>our no the Faux segment as we visit with the

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<v Speaker 1>voice of the Baltimore Ravens, Jerry Sandusky. The Bengals Booth

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<v Speaker 1>It's like the elevators are clairvoyant. Now time for us

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<v Speaker 1>to appear into the future and look ahead to Sunday's

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<v Speaker 1>game in Baltimore, beginning with a former Bengals wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>and current Bengals season ticket holder. It's Sunday Night Football

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<v Speaker 1>this week, meaning that Chris Collinsworth will be in the

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<v Speaker 1>booth for NBC instead of in his seat at pay

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<v Speaker 1>Course Stadium. What did you think of the atmosphere last

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday night for the white out and the record crowd

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<v Speaker 1>against the Dolphins. I told the commissioner, actually because I

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<v Speaker 1>was in the box with him, that I thought other

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<v Speaker 1>than the Pittsburgh Steelers game way back when Carson Palmer

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole Chris Henry injury. And I thought, other

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<v Speaker 1>than that game, that was the most electric I had

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<v Speaker 1>ever seen that stadium. It was a it was I

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<v Speaker 1>loved the unis rights so cool. I just loved it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like when I was studying the film of

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<v Speaker 1>it getting ready for this game, I was like, it's white.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like watching him run around in an X ray

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<v Speaker 1>or something, just black and white. You just don't see

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<v Speaker 1>that in the NFL, maybe other than Penn State kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. But it was fantastic. That was a big

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<v Speaker 1>win too. You know for them that they needed every

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of that crowd and they got it. Chris. When

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals opened and two, did you figure, no big deal,

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<v Speaker 1>they would get this thing back on the tracks. You

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<v Speaker 1>knew they had a better team than what they were showing.

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<v Speaker 1>But I hate it when you lose Opening Day. There's

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<v Speaker 1>something about especially how they lost Opening Day with they

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<v Speaker 1>got dude making an extra point at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the game, and you know, now you're three and one,

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<v Speaker 1>you're in first place by yourself. But to jump out

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<v Speaker 1>oh and two and start that way, I was definitely concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>But you also had to figure that there had to

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit of time Joe getting back after

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<v Speaker 1>the appen deck to me, the offensive line getting themselves

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<v Speaker 1>in gear, and now you just hope to see him

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<v Speaker 1>get a little uptick on with the running game. That

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<v Speaker 1>would be sort of the last piece of it. You

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<v Speaker 1>caught passes from the Bengals two previous Super Bowl quarterbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Anderson and Boomer Assias, and compare and contrast Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Burrow to those two Bengals qbs. Yeah, I think he's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more like Kenny Anderson. He's a lot more

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<v Speaker 1>of sit in the pocket, understand exactly what's happening to him.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the most impressive drives I thought that he

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<v Speaker 1>had all year was that opening drive last week. That

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback can do the best job of anybody of

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<v Speaker 1>protecting himself with some quick throws, quick releases, get the

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<v Speaker 1>ball out of his hands. And that was Kenny Anderson.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he understood all that Boomer was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be in the wild West fish fight every week and

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<v Speaker 1>we never knew what he was going to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny really manipulated the defense, manipulated the pass rush, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I always thought Joe Burrow was, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really saw it in that opening drive last week or

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<v Speaker 1>visiting with Chris Collinsworth you mentioned the Bengals running game.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon convened a meeting with his offensive line last

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<v Speaker 1>week to try to get it untracked. What do you

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<v Speaker 1>see when you watch the Bengals running game right now?

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<v Speaker 1>They're still getting there. There's a lot being thrown at

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<v Speaker 1>Bolson at the left guard position. It seems like every

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<v Speaker 1>stunt that anybody wants to ever run is always sort

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<v Speaker 1>of run at him just to try and make him

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<v Speaker 1>make a rookie mistake. Carris is the right person to

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<v Speaker 1>be next to him, you know, to try and coach

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<v Speaker 1>him along, and because I think he really gets the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Lyle Collins is not close to what Lyle Collins has

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<v Speaker 1>been in the past. I assume that back injury is

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<v Speaker 1>still a bit of an issue, and hopefully he's ramping up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as they go along for the season, because

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<v Speaker 1>he can be such a dominating presence in the run

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<v Speaker 1>game and just overpowering. I really I think that most

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<v Speaker 1>people hope that Kappa and Collins would be sort of

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<v Speaker 1>that that run force on that side while they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting Bolson up and running at the guard position, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's reason for hope. I thought, that is the first

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<v Speaker 1>time I've really seen Hayden Hurst at the tight end

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<v Speaker 1>in this offense. I thought, I think he's impressive. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think he's really impressive that you know, former first

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<v Speaker 1>round draft pick. He's some of the catch and run

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<v Speaker 1>things he did. I thought he was an effective blocker.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of upside left in this offense.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals defense has given up four touchdowns in four games.

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<v Speaker 1>Does Cincinnati belong in the discussion as one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best defensive teams in the NFL? And what impresses you

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<v Speaker 1>about lou Ana Rumo's crew. First, I like lou I

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<v Speaker 1>think lou Is he's the lifetime defensive back coach. And

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<v Speaker 1>it shows. I mean, they do a lot of stuff

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<v Speaker 1>on the back end, and you want to know, why

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<v Speaker 1>is this rookie or that rookie not getting a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to play? And I guess in this case Taxton Hill,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a lot for them to know. And so

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<v Speaker 1>when they have veteran players back there, they can do

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different things and a lot of different looks.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, when you have two players on the edge

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<v Speaker 1>and We all talk about Trey Hendrickson and what he's

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<v Speaker 1>done as a pass rusher since he's come here, and

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, and Sam Hubbard's not quite the

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<v Speaker 1>pass rusher that he is. But Sam Hubbard is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best football players that I've seen on tape.

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<v Speaker 1>The game he had against the run against Miami was

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<v Speaker 1>second to none. I'm telling you, a second to none.

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<v Speaker 1>It was fantastic. And now he will have a huge

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<v Speaker 1>role in trying to shut down Lamar because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a challenge and this guy can do things. And I

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<v Speaker 1>know everybody wants to say he's not this, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>not that. I say, boloney, he can throw it from

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket. No matter what you try and do in

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<v Speaker 1>the run game, You've got to sign two guys to him.

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<v Speaker 1>He is one of the most dangerous threats in all

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<v Speaker 1>of football, and I think very much in the discussion

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<v Speaker 1>for the MVP, despite them blowing to seventeen point leads

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<v Speaker 1>in the second half, they could easily be the four

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<v Speaker 1>node team that we're all talking about. They're two and two,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are two and two. You've got Borrow, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got Lamar. It's going to be a great show. On

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<v Speaker 1>NBC on Sunday Night. What are some of your keys

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<v Speaker 1>to the matchup? You know, I really think it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to come down to for the Bengal side, can they

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<v Speaker 1>get him into passing situations where Lamar has to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of that? You know, three ring circus offense where

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<v Speaker 1>they've got people running in seventeen different directions, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>really hard to figure out because and who knows what

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to do with their left tackle position. They've

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<v Speaker 1>got a rookie over there. I'm not sure how to

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<v Speaker 1>say his name for Lela or something like that. Another

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<v Speaker 1>rookie had center. So your preference would be the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>edge passed rushers going against two tackles that art as

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<v Speaker 1>athletic as those guys that can be. And then on

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive side, I just think it's simply can they

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<v Speaker 1>balance out this offense because their three receivers can play

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<v Speaker 1>with anybody, I'm telling you, with anybody in But the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens will have better poorners this time around. Marcus Peters

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<v Speaker 1>to be back after he was out all year. Marlon Humphrey,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is one of the better players in the

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<v Speaker 1>entire league. So I love the matchups It may come

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<v Speaker 1>down a little bit and Tyler Boyd take off Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>Stevens in the slot, but who passed for tex who

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<v Speaker 1>gets their running game going is probably the winner here. Chris,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to end with last Sunday's game against the

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<v Speaker 1>Chiefs because you had a priceless reaction to Patrick Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>spinning shot put toss touchdown. Passing that game, you said

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a dad playing with little kids in

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<v Speaker 1>the backyard. After all these years of playing and broadcasting

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<v Speaker 1>NFL football, you seem to genuinely still just be amazed

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<v Speaker 1>by some of the things that these guys do. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that accurate. I'm dazzled by them, I really am. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's kind of fun about it is that

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<v Speaker 1>the players are allowed to have fun now. The Andy

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<v Speaker 1>Reids of the world encourage personality, and so you see

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of that backyard flare. You know, you

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<v Speaker 1>see it. You're going to see it again this week

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<v Speaker 1>with Lamar. I mean, they're going to be some plays

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<v Speaker 1>you go, oh, you know what you do and stop it,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that, And then there are going to be

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<v Speaker 1>some plays you go, I can't believe he just did that.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, football is still a show. It's still entertainment,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think those guys are have more freedom to

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<v Speaker 1>try to make plays, to try and create. I would

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<v Speaker 1>have loved to have played in today's game. I really

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<v Speaker 1>would have. We were so disciplined and how we ran

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<v Speaker 1>our routes and the way they study everything today people

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<v Speaker 1>would have known everything he did an advance and prestaff

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<v Speaker 1>But now there's this creative element to the game that

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<v Speaker 1>really has made it more fun, more entertaining, a little

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<v Speaker 1>NBA ish in some cases that they have a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to create. So yeah, I do love it. I do

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<v Speaker 1>really love it. It is tremendous entertainment. It's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be great on Sunday night. We look forward to your

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<v Speaker 1>call and appreciate your time today. Thanks Chris, you're met Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>Good talk it to you. Chris spends several hours at

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<v Speaker 1>pay Course Stadium on Wednesday talking to people from the team.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure he'll have some great insight on Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 1>Elevate your connection with Alta Fiber. The Bengals have played

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<v Speaker 1>some memorable games in Baltimore over the years. Perhaps the

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<v Speaker 1>most memorable was on New Year's Eve twenty seventeen. The

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens needed a win to go to the playoffs and

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<v Speaker 1>led the Bengals with less than a minute to go.

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<v Speaker 1>Catches the football, he's back to throw, inches up in

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<v Speaker 1>the pocket, throws spot bye boy the fifteen ten touchdown

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler boy on fourth and twelve. It's a forty nine

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<v Speaker 1>yard touchdown. He and the Bengals lead with forty four

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<v Speaker 1>seconds to go. That was the final game of Tyler

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<v Speaker 1>Boyd's second NFL season. He's in year seven now and

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<v Speaker 1>I caught up with him this week. Tyler, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>nearly five years since you're famous touchdown that knocked Baltimore

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<v Speaker 1>out of the playoffs. When you walk out onto that

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<v Speaker 1>field on Sunday, will you have a brief flashback to

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<v Speaker 1>that moment? Yeah, you know, always, you know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of always looked back at that play because it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably one of the most memorable plays of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So just being able to continue to walk

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<v Speaker 1>out on the field, I have another opportunity to create

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<v Speaker 1>another special play, you know, is all I'm grateful for.

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<v Speaker 1>How have Ravens fans treated you since? A lot of dislikes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but at the end of the day, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm running for the Cincinnati Bengals, and we won't go

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<v Speaker 1>out there and and try to get this one. We're

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<v Speaker 1>chatting with Tyler Boyd. Let's go back to last week's

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<v Speaker 1>win over the Dolphins. You made two big plays in

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<v Speaker 1>the second half, including a twenty three yard pass to

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase. Now, this wasn't a the defense was completely fooled.

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<v Speaker 1>You just lob it up there and the guy's wide

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<v Speaker 1>open type of play. You had to fire a bullet

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<v Speaker 1>for that to be complete. Describe that. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>um basically we should have We only kept the play

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<v Speaker 1>on because we thought they were given us a man look,

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<v Speaker 1>which I really could have showed my arm all because

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<v Speaker 1>it was a down the field throw. But once they

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<v Speaker 1>see me in motion, they kind of showed what they

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<v Speaker 1>were in and they went kind of two Tampa or

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<v Speaker 1>three buzz or whatever it was. And uh, I just

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<v Speaker 1>being a football player, you know, I've seen Chase open

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<v Speaker 1>in between high safety in the corner so I just

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<v Speaker 1>had to figure out way to just just fit it

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<v Speaker 1>in there for him, I drive throw good spiral. That

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<v Speaker 1>had to feel good, definitely. You know. You know I played,

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<v Speaker 1>I've played a little QB in my day, so I

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<v Speaker 1>knew guys gonna make it through, all right. So let

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<v Speaker 1>the record show you've completed three passes in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>You completed three passes in college, so this is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>new for you. Two receivers around the league. No, which

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<v Speaker 1>receivers can throw the ball? Well, no, not really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>But for those game planning at me, I'm pretty sure

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<v Speaker 1>they're probably on alert because of my past history. But

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<v Speaker 1>going into games, I'm pretty sure other teams or other receivers,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't pass too much, you know, and when they do,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be out the blue, some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>trick plays, but you kind of don't know who's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do it. We're chatting with Tyler Boyd. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of great leaders on this team, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>your unselfishness has been a big key to the Bengal

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<v Speaker 1>success because you're the veteran among the wide receivers. You

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<v Speaker 1>had back to back a thousand yards seasons, but you

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<v Speaker 1>seem perfectly fine if the ball is going to Jamar

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<v Speaker 1>or Tea instead of you. Do you think your attitude

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<v Speaker 1>has filtered down to the other guys. Yeah, absolutely, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because I can be a guy that's that's selfish, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of could bring the level of playing down

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of guys, especially with the guys in

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<v Speaker 1>my room, you know, because if I feel the way

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<v Speaker 1>towards them guys and complaining in the hudder or just

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<v Speaker 1>complaining about less catches and things like that, then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they'll start stop having my back, you know, because they'll

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<v Speaker 1>look at me very selfish. And I know what I

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table, and I know what I can

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<v Speaker 1>do when my numbers caught. So I mean, at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the day, every game won't go my way

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<v Speaker 1>and I know that, and not now that they know

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<v Speaker 1>about Chase, you know, he's starting to, you know, feel

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<v Speaker 1>that the same thing I've been feeling. But now that

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<v Speaker 1>he knows how connected and how un selfish we are,

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<v Speaker 1>he understands the position he's in. So now that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been a veteran than been through this up and down

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<v Speaker 1>and been around in the office, you know, I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of know how how things are playoffs. Sometimes. I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of five kids. All of the kids are very different,

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<v Speaker 1>different personalities. You three wide receivers seem like brothers, but

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<v Speaker 1>your personalities are very different. It like a family, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is, you know, because, like you said, all three

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<v Speaker 1>of us at different personalities, you know. But one thing

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<v Speaker 1>about us we talked before. We're all and selfish, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but we all love to come into compete and we

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<v Speaker 1>all push each other to see who's better. Not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>figure out who's the best receiver, but we push each

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<v Speaker 1>other to do certain things to to drive us to

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<v Speaker 1>make us even better, you know. So I think just

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<v Speaker 1>having that type of chemistry and connection, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in our room as a collective whole, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think empowers the whole unit as a whole. A

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<v Speaker 1>couple more questions for Tyler Boyd. You beat the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>twice last year. Both games were lopsided at this level

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<v Speaker 1>with veteran pros who play seventeen games a year, is

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<v Speaker 1>there a revenge factor when you beat a team like

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<v Speaker 1>that twice by twenty or more points? Absolutely, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>despite how how the score was. You know, it's huge margins.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the end of the day. Just losing to

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<v Speaker 1>any division team twice in a year, you know, hurt you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because you gotta at least one wants to

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<v Speaker 1>advanced to the playoffs, you know. So I know they'll

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<v Speaker 1>come back with vengeance. But we're built for that, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're not gonna take nothing for granted. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna sit back and reflect on how we beat them

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<v Speaker 1>last year and come out lightly and I think we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do again because they're talented team and the second game,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they didn't really had a key players and

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<v Speaker 1>that was kind of a excuse or a reason how

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<v Speaker 1>we did them like that the second time. But at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, that they go and get

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<v Speaker 1>our our full potential each and every game with gardless

0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.520
<v Speaker 1>who's out there. The offense is getting better. You've scored

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven points in each of the last two games,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been a while since you've had thirty plus.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it goes back nine games going back to

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<v Speaker 1>last year if you include the playoffs. Is there anything

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<v Speaker 1>specific you need to do better or something you need

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<v Speaker 1>to eliminate in order for the offense to take off

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<v Speaker 1>the way that you know, it's capable of taking off.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of a great area to say, because at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the day, I think if we just

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<v Speaker 1>execute more plays, you know, on a third and shorts

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<v Speaker 1>on a short yardage plays, execute it and get more

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<v Speaker 1>first downs, and I think we absolutely surpass thirty points.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. I think us as players in a unit,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to do better job of doing our jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we all have to be on Q on

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<v Speaker 1>each each and every play, you know, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>the points is just start coming because we're very very

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental offense and we all do the right thing. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's always gonna be certain plays where you

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<v Speaker 1>get got. You know, you can't be perfect. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>of such thing as a perfect, perfect office or a

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<v Speaker 1>perfect team. So I mean, as much as we want

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<v Speaker 1>to score that many points to lead to keep stressed

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<v Speaker 1>off off our defense, then I mean we'll continue to

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<v Speaker 1>figure a way. I hope you have another memorable game

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<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore, and I always appreciate your time. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. Tyler should have some opportunities to make

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<v Speaker 1>plays this week because you have to think that the

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<v Speaker 1>Ravens will be double teaming and or bracketing Jamar Chase

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<v Speaker 1>all night after what he did to them last year.

0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:55.120
<v Speaker 1>Jamar had eight catches for two hundred yards in Game

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<v Speaker 1>one and seven catches for one hundred and twenty five

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0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:15.320
<v Speaker 1>inside the Bengals app. After allowing thirteen sacks in their

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<v Speaker 1>first two games, the Bengals gave up just two sacks

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<v Speaker 1>and their win over the Jets and only one sack

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:24.000
<v Speaker 1>in their win over the Dolphins. So the offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>is getting better, but the running game remains a work

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<v Speaker 1>in progress. Of the top fifty rushers in the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>through four games, Joe Mixon ranks last in yards per

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<v Speaker 1>carry at two point seven. His career average going into

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<v Speaker 1>the season was four point one. Joe says he's confident

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<v Speaker 1>that things will soon get better behind his rebuilt offensive line.

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<v Speaker 1>Them boys, they put into work, and you know last

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<v Speaker 1>week we even had a meeting. I'll call for a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with them to you know, just see what they

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<v Speaker 1>think and on certain runs or what they think. Also

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<v Speaker 1>do on certain runs, and I feel like that would

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<v Speaker 1>definitely be beneficial down the road and taking that next

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<v Speaker 1>step on you know, coming together and building that chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>on and off the field. And um, I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take us a long way, especially you know, doing

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<v Speaker 1>down the road. So I look forward to it. What

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<v Speaker 1>came out of meeting? Then, what'd you learn from it? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, they're pretty much just building that chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>and having them see what I'm seeing on certain blocks

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, if they could just tork a guy

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<v Speaker 1>a different way, or if they can just cut somebody

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<v Speaker 1>off backside, or I could just hit this a little

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<v Speaker 1>faster or hit backside. Like It's just little things that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we didn't see over over the course of time.

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<v Speaker 1>But I mean, like I said, man, I'm very optimistic.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I an't lost like nine near confidence

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<v Speaker 1>in the run game and what I'm capable of and

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<v Speaker 1>what I know they're capable. I asked my broadcast partner

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<v Speaker 1>Dave Lapham about Joe Mixon calling for a meeting with

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<v Speaker 1>the old line. Yeah, they've done it before. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>they've they've watched tape as an offensive line and tight

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<v Speaker 1>ends with Joe that's not the first time that they've

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<v Speaker 1>done it, and I think it's a good sign. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's like, look, we're not happy with where

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<v Speaker 1>we are. Let's let's let's do everything we possibly can

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<v Speaker 1>to improve it. Joe's a captain. Joe organized the thing

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, you know a lot of guys. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was over at his house if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>I know Hayden Hurst was talking about being over at

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Mixon's house looking at tape. So I think the

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<v Speaker 1>tight ends were involved. And I think it's it's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a work in progress. And like like every situation

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<v Speaker 1>when you're struggling, it's not there's not ten people breaking

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<v Speaker 1>down and Joe is the only guy that is doing

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<v Speaker 1>everything right. I mean, it's different. Things are happening at

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<v Speaker 1>different times, and it might only be one thing. Front

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<v Speaker 1>side's got a block, great, don't get the cut off

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<v Speaker 1>block boom problem, haven't blocked well. Joe doesn't see it exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>clearly makes a wrong cut. The double team on the

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<v Speaker 1>front side, the synchronous has to be perfect. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>leave before the other guy has taken over the hitting

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<v Speaker 1>surface of the down lineman or else the down lineman

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<v Speaker 1>is going to split them. You can't leave too late

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<v Speaker 1>or else the linebackers flowing and you can't get so

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<v Speaker 1>the timing, the coordination, the rhythm of these double and

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<v Speaker 1>rubs and all that sort of thing is huge. So

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<v Speaker 1>all it takes is one guy to break down, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have some issues. And it's not the same guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Every single player all stay just replaced the guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>so it's this guy, one player, that guy. Another play.

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<v Speaker 1>The running back right, it wrong this play. So if

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<v Speaker 1>in some cases it's just an inch, it's really literally

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<v Speaker 1>just inches where it got a couple of runs. Joe

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<v Speaker 1>got tripped. The defensive lineman tripped them, no call, who happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But and if they didn't trip him, it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some pretty good runs. The problem in Joe's

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<v Speaker 1>situation the last game game against the Dolphins, he had

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four carries. Ten of his carries went for zero

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<v Speaker 1>one or twelve of his carriage went for zero, one

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<v Speaker 1>or two yards. Coupled that with the fact that his

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<v Speaker 1>longest rush was seven yards, So now you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>horrific average. If he had busted one for twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>it wouldn't look that bad on an average per carry,

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<v Speaker 1>but it would still be a problem because twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>out of twenty four runs it just wasn't good enough.

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<v Speaker 1>So now the fact that he hasn't busted any explosives,

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<v Speaker 1>it's claring. People are like, what the hell is wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with the running game. So it's not like you're gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, throw it overboard and say, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a this is a hopeless cause they're so close.

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<v Speaker 1>They just have to keep grinding and it'll pop, and

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<v Speaker 1>when it pops, it'll probably pop pretty big. Twenty nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>was his third NFL season. It was Zach Taylor's first

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<v Speaker 1>as the Bengals head coach. In the first half of

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<v Speaker 1>that year, the running game was a bismo, a troop trocious,

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<v Speaker 1>and then on the flight to London before taking on

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams, they really tried to figure out what can

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<v Speaker 1>we do to get something out of the running game.

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<v Speaker 1>They basically changed their primary runs, got away from the

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<v Speaker 1>wide zone, tried to pin and pull, went to gap

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<v Speaker 1>blocking attack and in the second half of the year

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<v Speaker 1>he was incredible. He was more than eight hundred yards

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<v Speaker 1>in the final half of the season. I think that's

0:24:24.000 --> 0:24:27.360
<v Speaker 1>given Joe confidence that they will fix this and get

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 1>it going. Should they be looking at stuff like that about,

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, really changing the types of runs that they're

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:38.440
<v Speaker 1>going to Well, my stick my thought after watching Somaj

0:24:38.640 --> 0:24:41.919
<v Speaker 1>p run and the offensive line operate, Let Joe go

0:24:41.960 --> 0:24:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a little more north and south, make a quicker decision

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:49.199
<v Speaker 1>on the wide zone, on the stretch, play whatever you

0:24:49.200 --> 0:24:51.600
<v Speaker 1>want to term it. I think it's like he's trying

0:24:51.640 --> 0:24:54.160
<v Speaker 1>to hit a home run every time. You know, take

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.560
<v Speaker 1>the single and double take those for a while, you know,

0:24:56.680 --> 0:24:58.520
<v Speaker 1>don't try to hit a home run every time and

0:24:58.760 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 1>make the perfect cut. And in those situations, you know,

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:08.280
<v Speaker 1>three guys will have their position properly. The fourth guy

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the guy works over his face and makes a play.

0:25:10.760 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's just like one one minor breakdown and

0:25:14.240 --> 0:25:17.679
<v Speaker 1>it turns into a problem. But I do think that

0:25:17.720 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>when a running back is struggling, and in my opinion,

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>the best thing to do for him is to have

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the offensive line come off the ball with some confidence

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>and some spirit and gap blocking can do that and

0:25:27.880 --> 0:25:31.080
<v Speaker 1>let Joe get north and south like Somaji did. Somaji,

0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:34.480
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't thinking about anything. He was like put a

0:25:34.520 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 1>foot in the ground and go and he'd square his

0:25:37.000 --> 0:25:40.360
<v Speaker 1>shoulder pads up and lower those shoulder pads and run

0:25:40.400 --> 0:25:42.200
<v Speaker 1>with a good body lean and he was averaging over

0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.520
<v Speaker 1>five yards of carry and on that drive and they

0:25:44.560 --> 0:25:46.840
<v Speaker 1>get the ball with ten minutes and change left, he

0:25:46.840 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>he has eight rushes of the twelve players in that drive,

0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:53.040
<v Speaker 1>eight of his nine carries were in that drive. And

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:55.399
<v Speaker 1>their goal was to take a knee and run the

0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>clock out, and they came close to doing it. Mister

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:00.200
<v Speaker 1>forty one yard field goal with just a little over

0:26:00.240 --> 0:26:02.040
<v Speaker 1>two minutes to play. They want on an eight minute

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:06.280
<v Speaker 1>drive or thereabouts. That's what That's what Bills. I thought

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>that might have been a turning point. I honestly, Dan

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.480
<v Speaker 1>thought when Joe rushed that five yard touched on the

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:15.640
<v Speaker 1>offensive line, it was like a body surf five yards

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:19.040
<v Speaker 1>under the end zone. They mashed everything and everybody and Joe,

0:26:19.480 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Joe could have scored from you know, ten yards out,

0:26:23.960 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, yeah, that's that's a good sign. Keep

0:26:27.960 --> 0:26:31.000
<v Speaker 1>coming downhill like that. And then it evaporated again. So

0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:36.960
<v Speaker 1>they're they're are indicators, you know that they're close. They

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:38.600
<v Speaker 1>just got to get it over the top because if

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 1>they can, if they can get a you know, it

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:45.160
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to be spectacular, but a solid ground game

0:26:45.200 --> 0:26:48.320
<v Speaker 1>going with the weapons they've got, they could be a

0:26:48.359 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 1>real snoopful for any defense in the National Football League.

0:26:51.400 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 1>There's no doubt, because you know then you're looking at

0:26:54.160 --> 0:26:56.639
<v Speaker 1>play action pass, you're looking at all kinds of things,

0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:58.600
<v Speaker 1>and if you can stay ahead of the change, that's

0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:00.720
<v Speaker 1>one thing they were doing Dan. They verse five third

0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:03.920
<v Speaker 1>down conversions. With third and one, you can play action pass,

0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:06.560
<v Speaker 1>you can run, you can do anything you want, and

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:10.680
<v Speaker 1>they converted all five of those. So if they get

0:27:10.680 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>a running game going and stay ahead of the chains,

0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.480
<v Speaker 1>they are dictating totally. They are punching and the defense

0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>is counter punching. You don't want it the other way around,

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>where the defense is punching you and it's third and eight,

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.119
<v Speaker 1>third and nine, here they come, and you gotta be

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:28.160
<v Speaker 1>counter punching. While Joe Mixon is averaging two point seven

0:27:28.240 --> 0:27:32.200
<v Speaker 1>yards per run, Lamar Jackson is averaging eight point five.

0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.560
<v Speaker 1>He's ninth in the NFL and rushing yards through four games,

0:27:35.920 --> 0:27:38.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's one of only two quarterbacks in NFL history

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to rush for more than a thousand yards in a season.

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>Michael Vick did it once. Lamar has done it twice

0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>so far. So how does the team practice for a

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 1>quarterback who might be the fastest guy on the field.

0:27:52.119 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 1>In the Bengals case, they are using defensive back cam

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Britt, a former high school quarterback with four three

0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 1>eight speed the forty to play the role of Lamar

0:28:02.280 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Jackson at practice. Tell us about trying to help the

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>team by impersonating him as well as you can, honestly

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>just watching the film on him and just trying to

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.240
<v Speaker 1>do everything possibly you know that he does, you know,

0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 1>so I can help his defense on and give him

0:28:15.320 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 1>the best look possible for Sunday. Is it fun most definitely. Yeah.

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>He's like a player that you you know, create on Madden,

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 1>So you really have to kind of imitate that, you know,

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 1>for a defense so they can get a real look

0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:30.680
<v Speaker 1>like the Bengals. The Ravens are two and two after

0:28:30.720 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>playing four straight games against the AFC East. They beat

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the Jets twenty four nine and the Patriots thirty seven

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:41.240
<v Speaker 1>twenty six, but they blew a twenty one point lead

0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>in the fourth quarter and lost to the Dolphins forty

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>two thirty eight, and they blew a seventeen point lead

0:28:46.920 --> 0:28:49.400
<v Speaker 1>late in the second quarter and lost last week to

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 1>the Bills twenty three to twenty. The voice of the Ravens,

0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Sandusky, joined us on the Bengals Game Plan Show

0:28:55.840 --> 0:28:59.520
<v Speaker 1>this week and I asked him how Baltimore squandered those

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:04.160
<v Speaker 1>big lead. Kind of a combination of things won you

0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>know the Miami game, the secondary had three rookies on

0:29:07.400 --> 0:29:10.200
<v Speaker 1>the field, There was a lot of mental mistakes, some

0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>communication errors. They left the back door wide open, and

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>when you have to speed the Dolphins have they took

0:29:15.760 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>advantage of it, and so it was costly rookie mistakes.

0:29:19.120 --> 0:29:21.840
<v Speaker 1>And then you know last week, have a similar situation

0:29:21.920 --> 0:29:24.160
<v Speaker 1>with Josh Allen. And it's easy to point all the

0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>fingers in the defense, but the offense plays a role

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 1>in this as well. In the fourth quarter of the season,

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.920
<v Speaker 1>Lamar doesn't have a touchdown path and he has three turnovers.

0:29:32.480 --> 0:29:35.520
<v Speaker 1>There was, you know, the controversial decision do the Ravens

0:29:35.560 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 1>kick the field goal at the end? Do they go

0:29:37.000 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 1>for the touchdown? While they went they went for the touchdown,

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.280
<v Speaker 1>Lamar throws an interceptions and then it's you know, it's

0:29:42.280 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>game over from there. So to me, one of the

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 1>biggest factors. Is unlike in recent years, the Ravens running

0:29:48.480 --> 0:29:52.000
<v Speaker 1>game isn't putting games away in the fourth quarter the

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 1>way they have the last couple of years. So, you know,

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:56.040
<v Speaker 1>it's it's easy to stand and say, oh, it's the

0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 1>defensive back, where it's this guy for the defensive coordinator.

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>It's not that simple. It really he is a lot

0:30:00.840 --> 0:30:04.600
<v Speaker 1>of variables to play. So you think about the Ravens,

0:30:04.840 --> 0:30:08.080
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like, you know, the inverted wishbone. It's like

0:30:08.160 --> 0:30:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a college football running game. Three hundred and five pound fullback. Uh,

0:30:13.520 --> 0:30:16.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, they've got, uh, the inverted bone. They've got

0:30:16.240 --> 0:30:18.800
<v Speaker 1>all these different things they have. A quarterback is and

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 1>is he really joint in thirty pounds? Jerry's he gotten

0:30:21.360 --> 0:30:23.960
<v Speaker 1>that big I see in the listening in the roster

0:30:24.000 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>he's six two two thirty and I mean he runs

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:30.120
<v Speaker 1>what's still sub four four. It's amazing with all of

0:30:30.120 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>that that they're struggling in the running game. Is it

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>due to the offensive line still jelling a little bit,

0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.480
<v Speaker 1>the injury it's a left tackle, the rookie center, all

0:30:37.480 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>of that. So it's a little bit of that. The

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 1>rookie fenter. I think Tyler lenardbaut Field a great job.

0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're gonna you're gonna love what he does.

0:30:45.920 --> 0:30:49.440
<v Speaker 1>He's really every week he's progressively, so he's right on target.

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 1>They are down to their fourth tackle, the rookie daniel Leila,

0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:55.520
<v Speaker 1>who was a backup right tackle. He had to play

0:30:55.600 --> 0:30:58.120
<v Speaker 1>left tackle last week. So not having Ronnie Stanley has

0:30:58.120 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>definitely been a factor, but an eque big factories. Until

0:31:01.200 --> 0:31:03.640
<v Speaker 1>the last two weeks, they didn't have JK Dobbins for

0:31:03.680 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 1>a second year in a row. They had running back

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to are either past their prime, aren't comfortable in the system,

0:31:10.320 --> 0:31:13.320
<v Speaker 1>just aren't a great fit with this offense. And so

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:15.880
<v Speaker 1>now they got JK Dobbins back. Dobbins is getting back

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 1>up to speed. They got Gus Edwards back on the

0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:21.240
<v Speaker 1>practice field today. I highly doubt you'll see him on Sunday,

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 1>but at least the pieces are coming back under the

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.640
<v Speaker 1>chessboard that I've been missing for the Ravens. So, you know,

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 1>you take too many pieces off the board, it's really

0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:30.800
<v Speaker 1>hard to do what you've done in the past, and

0:31:30.840 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 1>that's kind of where they've been. What about Ronnie Stanley, Jerry,

0:31:35.800 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I know he's practiced a little bit he only played

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 1>in one game last year. Bengals defensive coordinator Louiana Rumo

0:31:42.360 --> 0:31:45.240
<v Speaker 1>said today they're expecting him to play. Is he right?

0:31:45.280 --> 0:31:48.360
<v Speaker 1>Do you think he'll play on Sunday night? I think

0:31:48.360 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>he will. He was really close to playing last week

0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:54.960
<v Speaker 1>but did not play. And look, the Ravens have taken

0:31:55.000 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>a very conservative approach with injuries this year because last

0:31:57.880 --> 0:32:01.200
<v Speaker 1>year Stanley felt like he was he felt pressured to

0:32:01.280 --> 0:32:03.720
<v Speaker 1>play in the first game of the season, he reaggravated

0:32:03.760 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 1>the injury, didn't play all the last year. He's only

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>played in one of the last thirty one games, and

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.080
<v Speaker 1>I think there's a feeling of let's make sure it's right.

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>And while he was it was really close. It was

0:32:14.840 --> 0:32:17.719
<v Speaker 1>a game day decision last week whether he played or not.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I think long term it makes sense to just air

0:32:20.960 --> 0:32:23.719
<v Speaker 1>on the side of being conservative and make sure he

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:26.520
<v Speaker 1>is one hundred ten percent so that once Ronnie Stanley

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:29.680
<v Speaker 1>returns and I expect him back this week, he returns

0:32:29.720 --> 0:32:33.880
<v Speaker 1>for good. Defensively, John Wink Martindale is now a Giant

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:38.120
<v Speaker 1>defensive coordinator. Mike McDonald's was a coordinated with Michigan with

0:32:38.240 --> 0:32:41.360
<v Speaker 1>Jim Harbad, John's brother, but he was on the staff

0:32:41.560 --> 0:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>with Wink Martindale. You know, he's noted the players, and

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>players are familiar with him. But it seems like the

0:32:48.000 --> 0:32:51.440
<v Speaker 1>defense is a little bit more multiple, doing some additional things,

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:55.719
<v Speaker 1>particularly coverage wise. They're less predictable with their blitz patterns.

0:32:55.760 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 1>They'll still blitz, I mean, but it's not one of

0:32:57.760 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>those crazy things Bill blitz, and they'll bring like a linebacker,

0:33:02.200 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>they'll bring a safety, they'll bring a nickel corner, those

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 1>kinds of things, And it's a little bit it's a

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:11.520
<v Speaker 1>little bit different, but it's still pressure oriented, isn't it.

0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 1>It is pressure oriented, but you don't see nearly as

0:33:14.520 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>much cover zero now. Wink Martindale's philosophy is this pressure

0:33:18.680 --> 0:33:21.080
<v Speaker 1>breaks pipes. Well, unfortunately in the second half of last year,

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>the pipes that were getting broken were the Ravens and so,

0:33:23.920 --> 0:33:27.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I think they became predictably unpredictable was the

0:33:27.440 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 1>phrase used around the castle. And so with Mike McDonald,

0:33:31.040 --> 0:33:34.280
<v Speaker 1>you're seeing a lot more multiple. Look, you're seeing a

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 1>lot more two three, cover four, different coverages, and you're

0:33:38.480 --> 0:33:41.080
<v Speaker 1>seeing different blitz packages. You're not you know, you're not

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:43.800
<v Speaker 1>seeing necessarily blitzess when you expected. They're trying. They're trying

0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>to reintroduce the element of unpredictability to when then where

0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>they pressure as they mix that. And one of the

0:33:51.800 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 1>things I will say for you know, he's been taking

0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the heat because of the two late end classes, but

0:33:56.120 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>he's a thirty four year old defensive coordinator. He's in

0:33:58.720 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 1>his first year. He's a young guy and he's learning

0:34:01.680 --> 0:34:04.040
<v Speaker 1>on the job. And one of the things we saw

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>different coverages last week that we saw in the first

0:34:06.840 --> 0:34:08.400
<v Speaker 1>three weeks of the season, which to me is a

0:34:08.480 --> 0:34:11.919
<v Speaker 1>great time. You know, when you're feeling pressure, you tend

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to in life go back to what you know and

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>not expand and not try new things. And he's still expanding.

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's trying new things. He's introducing things step

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.520
<v Speaker 1>by step for his players. So I think in the

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>long term it's going to work out, but there are

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.960
<v Speaker 1>short term growth pains and that's not uncommon with the

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.960
<v Speaker 1>young coaches. The voice of the Ravens, Jerry Sandusky, is

0:34:31.960 --> 0:34:34.040
<v Speaker 1>our guest. Here's my final question that has to do

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 1>with Lamar Jackson. Is his contract situation. The Ravens tried

0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.680
<v Speaker 1>to give him a bundle of money. He did not

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>ultimately accept the offer. Is that causing tension or or

0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 1>hanging over this season for the Ravens. I don't think though.

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:51.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's bothering the Ravens of the least.

0:34:51.840 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, if it's bothering Lamar, he doesn't let on

0:34:53.960 --> 0:34:56.480
<v Speaker 1>about it. He handled himself very well. He was he

0:34:56.600 --> 0:34:59.680
<v Speaker 1>was quite diplomatic. There was no acrimony, there was no

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:04.440
<v Speaker 1>of holding out. There's none of that. From an organizational standpoint.

0:35:04.480 --> 0:35:07.319
<v Speaker 1>The Ravens know that they can't get a deal done.

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>They've got the franchise tag they can use the next

0:35:09.440 --> 0:35:12.560
<v Speaker 1>two years. That's not what they want to do. But

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.560
<v Speaker 1>the team still has the leverage if Lamar puts together

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the kind of season he wants to play together wins

0:35:17.520 --> 0:35:19.799
<v Speaker 1>the super Bowl, you know, I'm sure it'll be a

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 1>much more engaging conversation at the negotiating table in the offseason.

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>But because it doesn't have to be done tomorrow, because

0:35:29.320 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 1>the team wants Lamar, Lamar knows he's wanted. It's really

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.640
<v Speaker 1>down to how big subsigning vote is going to be.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I think both sides still feel like they will eventually

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<v Speaker 1>get it done. Last week, Third and One don't score

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<v Speaker 1>forts and one throwing an interception at the just blew

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<v Speaker 1>up on social media where Peters and John harborwor tchurff

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<v Speaker 1>and back and forth at each other a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>over you know, why didn't Why was it the field

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<v Speaker 1>goal kicked? YadA YadA? Is there any lingering effect from that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or how has John Harbaugh handled it? It's everything okay

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<v Speaker 1>with Harball and Peters. Yeah, I think everything's fine there.

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<v Speaker 1>Peters did not talk with the media today, but Marlon Humphrey,

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<v Speaker 1>is running mate at the other corner, did and he said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we're a family. He said, you know, families fight, but

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<v Speaker 1>we're fighting because we all want to win. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the big thing. If John Hardball was an argument with

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<v Speaker 1>a player because he thought the player didn't care or

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't giving his all, then you'd have a problem. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, game day, when a coach and a player

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<v Speaker 1>get into it because they both want to win so much,

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<v Speaker 1>and they might disagree on the player or the call

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<v Speaker 1>that it's a lot, they are on the same page

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to do what it takes to win.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you're gonna standing long term problems there.

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<v Speaker 1>Hardball loves the competitiveness of Marcus Peters and he has

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<v Speaker 1>no problem with guys showing that level. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>John's a veteran coach, just fifteenth years, so he understands

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<v Speaker 1>what guys do and say sometimes in the heat of

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<v Speaker 1>the decision that a game hangs on is a little

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<v Speaker 1>different than what they might think about or say on

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