1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Higain everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading The 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast, the Every Little Step Pot Take edition. 3 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: As the two and two Bengals look to continue to 4 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 1: climb in the AFC North as they face the Baltimore 5 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 1: Ravens on Sunday Night Football coming up, I'll talk to 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth, who will call the game on NBC with 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: Mike Tariko. Tyler Boyd joins me before returning to the 8 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: scene of his most famous NFL highlight. I'll discuss the 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: Bengals running game woes with Dave Lapham and finally, it's 10 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: our no the Faux segment as we visit with the 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: voice of the Baltimore Ravens, Jerry Sandusky. The Bengals Booth 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: Podcast is brought to you by pay Corps. More than 13 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: twenty nine thousand customers trust pay core to help them recruit, pay, engage, 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: and retain employees. Now here's a quick reminder that you 15 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: can have the latest edition of this podcast delivered right 16 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: to your phone, tablet, or computer by subscribing wherever you 17 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:06,039 Speaker 1: get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since the elevators 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 1: at the Center at six hundred Vine every Tuesday, I 19 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: go into an office building at six hundred Vine Street 20 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: in downtown Cincinnati to tape a TV show for Bally Sports, Ohio. 21 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you that I have never been 22 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: in a building with better elevators. I take one elevator 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: from the parking garage to the main floor, and then 24 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: another elevator to get to the Bally Sports studio, and 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: when you hit the button, there's never a wait. So 26 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,400 Speaker 1: kudos to whoever designed the elevator system at six hundred Vine. 27 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: It's like the elevators are clairvoyant. Now time for us 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: to appear into the future and look ahead to Sunday's 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: game in Baltimore, beginning with a former Bengals wide receiver 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: and current Bengals season ticket holder. It's Sunday Night Football 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: this week, meaning that Chris Collinsworth will be in the 32 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: booth for NBC instead of in his seat at pay 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: Course Stadium. What did you think of the atmosphere last 34 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: Thursday night for the white out and the record crowd 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: against the Dolphins. I told the commissioner, actually because I 36 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: was in the box with him, that I thought other 37 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 1: than the Pittsburgh Steelers game way back when Carson Palmer 38 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: and the whole Chris Henry injury. And I thought, other 39 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: than that game, that was the most electric I had 40 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: ever seen that stadium. It was a it was I 41 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: loved the unis rights so cool. I just loved it. 42 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: It was like when I was studying the film of 43 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: it getting ready for this game, I was like, it's white. 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: It's like watching him run around in an X ray 45 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: or something, just black and white. You just don't see 46 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: that in the NFL, maybe other than Penn State kind 47 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: of thing. But it was fantastic. That was a big 48 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: win too. You know for them that they needed every 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: ounce of that crowd and they got it. Chris. When 50 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals opened and two, did you figure, no big deal, 51 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: they would get this thing back on the tracks. You 52 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: knew they had a better team than what they were showing. 53 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: But I hate it when you lose Opening Day. There's 54 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 1: something about especially how they lost Opening Day with they 55 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: got dude making an extra point at the end of 56 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the game, and you know, now you're three and one, 57 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: you're in first place by yourself. But to jump out 58 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: oh and two and start that way, I was definitely concerned, 59 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: But you also had to figure that there had to 60 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: be a little bit of time Joe getting back after 61 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: the appen deck to me, the offensive line getting themselves 62 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: in gear, and now you just hope to see him 63 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: get a little uptick on with the running game. That 64 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: would be sort of the last piece of it. You 65 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: caught passes from the Bengals two previous Super Bowl quarterbacks, 66 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Anderson and Boomer Assias, and compare and contrast Joe 67 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: Burrow to those two Bengals qbs. Yeah, I think he's 68 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: a lot more like Kenny Anderson. He's a lot more 69 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 1: of sit in the pocket, understand exactly what's happening to him. 70 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: One of the most impressive drives I thought that he 71 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 1: had all year was that opening drive last week. That 72 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback can do the best job of anybody of 73 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 1: protecting himself with some quick throws, quick releases, get the 74 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 1: ball out of his hands. And that was Kenny Anderson. 75 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: You know, he understood all that Boomer was going to 76 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 1: be in the wild West fish fight every week and 77 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: we never knew what he was going to do. But 78 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: Kenny really manipulated the defense, manipulated the pass rush, and 79 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: that's what I always thought Joe Burrow was, but I 80 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: really saw it in that opening drive last week or 81 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: visiting with Chris Collinsworth you mentioned the Bengals running game. 82 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon convened a meeting with his offensive line last 83 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: week to try to get it untracked. What do you 84 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: see when you watch the Bengals running game right now? 85 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: They're still getting there. There's a lot being thrown at 86 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: Bolson at the left guard position. It seems like every 87 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,480 Speaker 1: stunt that anybody wants to ever run is always sort 88 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 1: of run at him just to try and make him 89 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: make a rookie mistake. Carris is the right person to 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: be next to him, you know, to try and coach 91 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,559 Speaker 1: him along, and because I think he really gets the game. 92 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: Lyle Collins is not close to what Lyle Collins has 93 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: been in the past. I assume that back injury is 94 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: still a bit of an issue, and hopefully he's ramping up, 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, as they go along for the season, because 96 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: he can be such a dominating presence in the run 97 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: game and just overpowering. I really I think that most 98 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 1: people hope that Kappa and Collins would be sort of 99 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,039 Speaker 1: that that run force on that side while they were 100 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 1: getting Bolson up and running at the guard position, so yeah, 101 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: there's reason for hope. I thought, that is the first 102 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,600 Speaker 1: time I've really seen Hayden Hurst at the tight end 103 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 1: in this offense. I thought, I think he's impressive. I 104 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: just think he's really impressive that you know, former first 105 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: round draft pick. He's some of the catch and run 106 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: things he did. I thought he was an effective blocker. 107 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of upside left in this offense. 108 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: The Bengals defense has given up four touchdowns in four games. 109 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: Does Cincinnati belong in the discussion as one of the 110 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: best defensive teams in the NFL? And what impresses you 111 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: about lou Ana Rumo's crew. First, I like lou I 112 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: think lou Is he's the lifetime defensive back coach. And 113 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: it shows. I mean, they do a lot of stuff 114 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: on the back end, and you want to know, why 115 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: is this rookie or that rookie not getting a chance 116 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: to play? And I guess in this case Taxton Hill, 117 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: there is a lot for them to know. And so 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 1: when they have veteran players back there, they can do 119 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: a lot of different things and a lot of different looks. 120 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, when you have two players on the edge 121 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: and We all talk about Trey Hendrickson and what he's 122 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: done as a pass rusher since he's come here, and 123 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: I agree with that, and Sam Hubbard's not quite the 124 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: pass rusher that he is. But Sam Hubbard is one 125 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: of the best football players that I've seen on tape. 126 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: The game he had against the run against Miami was 127 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: second to none. I'm telling you, a second to none. 128 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: It was fantastic. And now he will have a huge 129 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: role in trying to shut down Lamar because this is 130 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: a challenge and this guy can do things. And I 131 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: know everybody wants to say he's not this, and he's 132 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: not that. I say, boloney, he can throw it from 133 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: the pocket. No matter what you try and do in 134 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: the run game, You've got to sign two guys to him. 135 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: He is one of the most dangerous threats in all 136 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: of football, and I think very much in the discussion 137 00:07:56,120 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: for the MVP, despite them blowing to seventeen point leads 138 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: in the second half, they could easily be the four 139 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 1: node team that we're all talking about. They're two and two, 140 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 1: the Bengals are two and two. You've got Borrow, You've 141 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: got Lamar. It's going to be a great show. On 142 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: NBC on Sunday Night. What are some of your keys 143 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: to the matchup? You know, I really think it's going 144 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: to come down to for the Bengal side, can they 145 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 1: get him into passing situations where Lamar has to get 146 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: out of that? You know, three ring circus offense where 147 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: they've got people running in seventeen different directions, and it's 148 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: really hard to figure out because and who knows what 149 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: they're going to do with their left tackle position. They've 150 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: got a rookie over there. I'm not sure how to 151 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: say his name for Lela or something like that. Another 152 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: rookie had center. So your preference would be the Bengals 153 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: edge passed rushers going against two tackles that art as 154 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: athletic as those guys that can be. And then on 155 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: the offensive side, I just think it's simply can they 156 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: balance out this offense because their three receivers can play 157 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: with anybody, I'm telling you, with anybody in But the 158 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: Ravens will have better poorners this time around. Marcus Peters 159 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:18,559 Speaker 1: to be back after he was out all year. Marlon Humphrey, 160 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: I think is one of the better players in the 161 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: entire league. So I love the matchups It may come 162 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:26,959 Speaker 1: down a little bit and Tyler Boyd take off Brandon 163 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: Stevens in the slot, but who passed for tex who 164 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: gets their running game going is probably the winner here. Chris, 165 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: I want to end with last Sunday's game against the 166 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: Chiefs because you had a priceless reaction to Patrick Mahomes 167 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: spinning shot put toss touchdown. Passing that game, you said 168 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 1: it was like a dad playing with little kids in 169 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: the backyard. After all these years of playing and broadcasting 170 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:57,119 Speaker 1: NFL football, you seem to genuinely still just be amazed 171 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: by some of the things that these guys do. Is 172 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: that accurate. I'm dazzled by them, I really am. And 173 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: you know what's kind of fun about it is that 174 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: the players are allowed to have fun now. The Andy 175 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Reids of the world encourage personality, and so you see 176 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: a little bit of that backyard flare. You know, you 177 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: see it. You're going to see it again this week 178 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: with Lamar. I mean, they're going to be some plays 179 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: you go, oh, you know what you do and stop it, 180 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: don't do that, And then there are going to be 181 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: some plays you go, I can't believe he just did that. 182 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 1: And to me, football is still a show. It's still entertainment, 183 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: and I think those guys are have more freedom to 184 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 1: try to make plays, to try and create. I would 185 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: have loved to have played in today's game. I really 186 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: would have. We were so disciplined and how we ran 187 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: our routes and the way they study everything today people 188 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: would have known everything he did an advance and prestaff 189 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 1: But now there's this creative element to the game that 190 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: really has made it more fun, more entertaining, a little 191 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,600 Speaker 1: NBA ish in some cases that they have a chance 192 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: to create. So yeah, I do love it. I do 193 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: really love it. It is tremendous entertainment. It's going to 194 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: be great on Sunday night. We look forward to your 195 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: call and appreciate your time today. Thanks Chris, you're met Dan, 196 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: Good talk it to you. Chris spends several hours at 197 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: pay Course Stadium on Wednesday talking to people from the team. 198 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm sure he'll have some great insight on Sunday night. 199 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast is presented by Alta Fiber future 200 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: proof fiber internet capable of delivering multi gigabit speeds designed 201 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: to take your home, business, and community to a new level. 202 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: Elevate your connection with Alta Fiber. The Bengals have played 203 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: some memorable games in Baltimore over the years. Perhaps the 204 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: most memorable was on New Year's Eve twenty seventeen. The 205 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,200 Speaker 1: Ravens needed a win to go to the playoffs and 206 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: led the Bengals with less than a minute to go. 207 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: Catches the football, he's back to throw, inches up in 208 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: the pocket, throws spot bye boy the fifteen ten touchdown 209 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: Tyler boy on fourth and twelve. It's a forty nine 210 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: yard touchdown. He and the Bengals lead with forty four 211 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: seconds to go. That was the final game of Tyler 212 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: Boyd's second NFL season. He's in year seven now and 213 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: I caught up with him this week. Tyler, it's been 214 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: nearly five years since you're famous touchdown that knocked Baltimore 215 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. When you walk out onto that 216 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: field on Sunday, will you have a brief flashback to 217 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: that moment? Yeah, you know, always, you know, because I 218 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: kind of always looked back at that play because it's 219 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: probably one of the most memorable plays of my life, 220 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: you know, So just being able to continue to walk 221 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: out on the field, I have another opportunity to create 222 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: another special play, you know, is all I'm grateful for. 223 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: How have Ravens fans treated you since? A lot of dislikes, 224 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, but at the end of the day, you know, 225 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: I'm running for the Cincinnati Bengals, and we won't go 226 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,199 Speaker 1: out there and and try to get this one. We're 227 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 1: chatting with Tyler Boyd. Let's go back to last week's 228 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 1: win over the Dolphins. You made two big plays in 229 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: the second half, including a twenty three yard pass to 230 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase. Now, this wasn't a the defense was completely fooled. 231 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: You just lob it up there and the guy's wide 232 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 1: open type of play. You had to fire a bullet 233 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: for that to be complete. Describe that. Yeah, it was 234 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: um basically we should have We only kept the play 235 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: on because we thought they were given us a man look, 236 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: which I really could have showed my arm all because 237 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: it was a down the field throw. But once they 238 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 1: see me in motion, they kind of showed what they 239 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 1: were in and they went kind of two Tampa or 240 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: three buzz or whatever it was. And uh, I just 241 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: being a football player, you know, I've seen Chase open 242 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 1: in between high safety in the corner so I just 243 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: had to figure out way to just just fit it 244 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: in there for him, I drive throw good spiral. That 245 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: had to feel good, definitely. You know. You know I played, 246 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: I've played a little QB in my day, so I 247 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,839 Speaker 1: knew guys gonna make it through, all right. So let 248 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: the record show you've completed three passes in the NFL. 249 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: You completed three passes in college, so this is nothing 250 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: new for you. Two receivers around the league. No, which 251 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: receivers can throw the ball? Well, no, not really, you know, 252 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: But for those game planning at me, I'm pretty sure 253 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: they're probably on alert because of my past history. But 254 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: going into games, I'm pretty sure other teams or other receivers, 255 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: they don't pass too much, you know, and when they do, 256 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: it's going to be out the blue, some sort of 257 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: trick plays, but you kind of don't know who's gonna 258 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: do it. We're chatting with Tyler Boyd. There are a 259 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: lot of great leaders on this team, but I think 260 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: your unselfishness has been a big key to the Bengal 261 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: success because you're the veteran among the wide receivers. You 262 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: had back to back a thousand yards seasons, but you 263 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: seem perfectly fine if the ball is going to Jamar 264 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: or Tea instead of you. Do you think your attitude 265 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: has filtered down to the other guys. Yeah, absolutely, you know, 266 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: because I can be a guy that's that's selfish, you know, 267 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: and kind of could bring the level of playing down 268 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: to a lot of guys, especially with the guys in 269 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: my room, you know, because if I feel the way 270 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: towards them guys and complaining in the hudder or just 271 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: complaining about less catches and things like that, then maybe 272 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: they'll start stop having my back, you know, because they'll 273 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: look at me very selfish. And I know what I 274 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: bring to the table, and I know what I can 275 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: do when my numbers caught. So I mean, at the 276 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: end of the day, every game won't go my way 277 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: and I know that, and not now that they know 278 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: about Chase, you know, he's starting to, you know, feel 279 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 1: that the same thing I've been feeling. But now that 280 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: he knows how connected and how un selfish we are, 281 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: he understands the position he's in. So now that I've 282 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: been a veteran than been through this up and down 283 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: and been around in the office, you know, I kind 284 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: of know how how things are playoffs. Sometimes. I'm one 285 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 1: of five kids. All of the kids are very different, 286 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: different personalities. You three wide receivers seem like brothers, but 287 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: your personalities are very different. It like a family, Yeah, 288 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: it is, you know, because, like you said, all three 289 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: of us at different personalities, you know. But one thing 290 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: about us we talked before. We're all and selfish, you know, 291 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: but we all love to come into compete and we 292 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 1: all push each other to see who's better. Not necessarily 293 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: figure out who's the best receiver, but we push each 294 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: other to do certain things to to drive us to 295 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: make us even better, you know. So I think just 296 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: having that type of chemistry and connection, which is just 297 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: everybody in our room as a collective whole, you know, 298 00:16:26,680 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 1: I think empowers the whole unit as a whole. A 299 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: couple more questions for Tyler Boyd. You beat the Ravens 300 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: twice last year. Both games were lopsided at this level 301 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: with veteran pros who play seventeen games a year, is 302 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: there a revenge factor when you beat a team like 303 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: that twice by twenty or more points? Absolutely, you know, 304 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: despite how how the score was. You know, it's huge margins. 305 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day. Just losing to 306 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: any division team twice in a year, you know, hurt you, 307 00:16:57,760 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: you know, because you gotta at least one wants to 308 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: advanced to the playoffs, you know. So I know they'll 309 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: come back with vengeance. But we're built for that, you know. 310 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: And we're not gonna take nothing for granted. We're not 311 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna sit back and reflect on how we beat them 312 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: last year and come out lightly and I think we're 313 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: gonna do again because they're talented team and the second game, 314 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, they didn't really had a key players and 315 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: that was kind of a excuse or a reason how 316 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: we did them like that the second time. But at 317 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: the end of the day, that they go and get 318 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: our our full potential each and every game with gardless 319 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: who's out there. The offense is getting better. You've scored 320 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: twenty seven points in each of the last two games, 321 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: but it's been a while since you've had thirty plus. 322 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: I think it goes back nine games going back to 323 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: last year if you include the playoffs. Is there anything 324 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: specific you need to do better or something you need 325 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 1: to eliminate in order for the offense to take off 326 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: the way that you know, it's capable of taking off. 327 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: It's kind of a great area to say, because at 328 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: the end of the day, I think if we just 329 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: execute more plays, you know, on a third and shorts 330 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: on a short yardage plays, execute it and get more 331 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: first downs, and I think we absolutely surpass thirty points. 332 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: You know. I think us as players in a unit, 333 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: we had to do better job of doing our jobs. 334 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: You know, we all have to be on Q on 335 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: each each and every play, you know, and I think 336 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: the points is just start coming because we're very very 337 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: fundamental offense and we all do the right thing. But 338 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's always gonna be certain plays where you 339 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: get got. You know, you can't be perfect. It's not 340 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: of such thing as a perfect, perfect office or a 341 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: perfect team. So I mean, as much as we want 342 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: to score that many points to lead to keep stressed 343 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 1: off off our defense, then I mean we'll continue to 344 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: figure a way. I hope you have another memorable game 345 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:37,239 Speaker 1: in Baltimore, and I always appreciate your time. Thank you. 346 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Tyler should have some opportunities to make 347 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 1: plays this week because you have to think that the 348 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: Ravens will be double teaming and or bracketing Jamar Chase 349 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: all night after what he did to them last year. 350 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 1: Jamar had eight catches for two hundred yards in Game 351 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: one and seven catches for one hundred and twenty five 352 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:02,200 Speaker 1: yards in Game two. The Bengals Booth podcast is presented 353 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: by Bengals Picks and Ultimate Bengals. They're free to play, 354 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: with tickets and signed merchandise up for grabs. Find both 355 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 1: inside the Bengals app. After allowing thirteen sacks in their 356 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,920 Speaker 1: first two games, the Bengals gave up just two sacks 357 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 1: and their win over the Jets and only one sack 358 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: in their win over the Dolphins. So the offensive line 359 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: is getting better, but the running game remains a work 360 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: in progress. Of the top fifty rushers in the NFL 361 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:35,080 Speaker 1: through four games, Joe Mixon ranks last in yards per 362 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: carry at two point seven. His career average going into 363 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: the season was four point one. Joe says he's confident 364 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: that things will soon get better behind his rebuilt offensive line. 365 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: Them boys, they put into work, and you know last 366 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: week we even had a meeting. I'll call for a 367 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 1: meeting with them to you know, just see what they 368 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: think and on certain runs or what they think. Also 369 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: do on certain runs, and I feel like that would 370 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: definitely be beneficial down the road and taking that next 371 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: step on you know, coming together and building that chemistry 372 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: on and off the field. And um, I think that's 373 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: gonna take us a long way, especially you know, doing 374 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: down the road. So I look forward to it. What 375 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: came out of meeting? Then, what'd you learn from it? Um? 376 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: Like I said, they're pretty much just building that chemistry 377 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: and having them see what I'm seeing on certain blocks 378 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: or you know, if they could just tork a guy 379 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: a different way, or if they can just cut somebody 380 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: off backside, or I could just hit this a little 381 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: faster or hit backside. Like It's just little things that 382 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, we didn't see over over the course of time. 383 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, like I said, man, I'm very optimistic. 384 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I I an't lost like nine near confidence 385 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: in the run game and what I'm capable of and 386 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: what I know they're capable. I asked my broadcast partner 387 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: Dave Lapham about Joe Mixon calling for a meeting with 388 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: the old line. Yeah, they've done it before. I mean 389 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 1: they've they've watched tape as an offensive line and tight 390 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: ends with Joe that's not the first time that they've 391 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: done it, and I think it's a good sign. I mean, 392 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,360 Speaker 1: I think it's like, look, we're not happy with where 393 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: we are. Let's let's let's do everything we possibly can 394 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: to improve it. Joe's a captain. Joe organized the thing 395 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 1: and uh, you know a lot of guys. I think 396 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: it was over at his house if I'm not mistaken. 397 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 1: I know Hayden Hurst was talking about being over at 398 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,479 Speaker 1: Joe Mixon's house looking at tape. So I think the 399 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: tight ends were involved. And I think it's it's a 400 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: it's a work in progress. And like like every situation 401 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: when you're struggling, it's not there's not ten people breaking 402 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: down and Joe is the only guy that is doing 403 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: everything right. I mean, it's different. Things are happening at 404 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: different times, and it might only be one thing. Front 405 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: side's got a block, great, don't get the cut off 406 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: block boom problem, haven't blocked well. Joe doesn't see it exactly, 407 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: clearly makes a wrong cut. The double team on the 408 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: front side, the synchronous has to be perfect. You can't 409 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: leave before the other guy has taken over the hitting 410 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: surface of the down lineman or else the down lineman 411 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: is going to split them. You can't leave too late 412 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: or else the linebackers flowing and you can't get so 413 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: the timing, the coordination, the rhythm of these double and 414 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: rubs and all that sort of thing is huge. So 415 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: all it takes is one guy to break down, and 416 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna have some issues. And it's not the same guy. 417 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: Every single player all stay just replaced the guy. And 418 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: so it's this guy, one player, that guy. Another play. 419 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: The running back right, it wrong this play. So if 420 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: in some cases it's just an inch, it's really literally 421 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: just inches where it got a couple of runs. Joe 422 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: got tripped. The defensive lineman tripped them, no call, who happens. 423 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: But and if they didn't trip him, it was going 424 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: to be some pretty good runs. The problem in Joe's 425 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: situation the last game game against the Dolphins, he had 426 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: twenty four carries. Ten of his carries went for zero 427 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: one or twelve of his carriage went for zero, one 428 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: or two yards. Coupled that with the fact that his 429 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: longest rush was seven yards, So now you're gonna have 430 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: horrific average. If he had busted one for twenty five, 431 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 1: it wouldn't look that bad on an average per carry, 432 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: but it would still be a problem because twenty three 433 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: out of twenty four runs it just wasn't good enough. 434 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: So now the fact that he hasn't busted any explosives, 435 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: it's claring. People are like, what the hell is wrong 436 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: with the running game. So it's not like you're gonna, 437 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: you know, throw it overboard and say, you know, this 438 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: is a this is a hopeless cause they're so close. 439 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: They just have to keep grinding and it'll pop, and 440 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: when it pops, it'll probably pop pretty big. Twenty nineteen 441 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: was his third NFL season. It was Zach Taylor's first 442 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 1: as the Bengals head coach. In the first half of 443 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: that year, the running game was a bismo, a troop trocious, 444 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,399 Speaker 1: and then on the flight to London before taking on 445 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: the Rams, they really tried to figure out what can 446 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: we do to get something out of the running game. 447 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: They basically changed their primary runs, got away from the 448 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: wide zone, tried to pin and pull, went to gap 449 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: blocking attack and in the second half of the year 450 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: he was incredible. He was more than eight hundred yards 451 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: in the final half of the season. I think that's 452 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: given Joe confidence that they will fix this and get 453 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: it going. Should they be looking at stuff like that about, 454 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: you know, really changing the types of runs that they're 455 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: going to Well, my stick my thought after watching Somaj 456 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: p run and the offensive line operate, Let Joe go 457 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 1: a little more north and south, make a quicker decision 458 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: on the wide zone, on the stretch, play whatever you 459 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: want to term it. I think it's like he's trying 460 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: to hit a home run every time. You know, take 461 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: the single and double take those for a while, you know, 462 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: don't try to hit a home run every time and 463 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: make the perfect cut. And in those situations, you know, 464 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: three guys will have their position properly. The fourth guy 465 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 1: the guy works over his face and makes a play. 466 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 1: You know, it's just like one one minor breakdown and 467 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 1: it turns into a problem. But I do think that 468 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: when a running back is struggling, and in my opinion, 469 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 1: the best thing to do for him is to have 470 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: the offensive line come off the ball with some confidence 471 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: and some spirit and gap blocking can do that and 472 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: let Joe get north and south like Somaji did. Somaji, 473 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: he wasn't thinking about anything. He was like put a 474 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: foot in the ground and go and he'd square his 475 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,360 Speaker 1: shoulder pads up and lower those shoulder pads and run 476 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 1: with a good body lean and he was averaging over 477 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: five yards of carry and on that drive and they 478 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: get the ball with ten minutes and change left, he 479 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: he has eight rushes of the twelve players in that drive, 480 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: eight of his nine carries were in that drive. And 481 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: their goal was to take a knee and run the 482 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: clock out, and they came close to doing it. Mister 483 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: forty one yard field goal with just a little over 484 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: two minutes to play. They want on an eight minute 485 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: drive or thereabouts. That's what That's what Bills. I thought 486 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: that might have been a turning point. I honestly, Dan 487 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 1: thought when Joe rushed that five yard touched on the 488 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: offensive line, it was like a body surf five yards 489 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: under the end zone. They mashed everything and everybody and Joe, 490 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: Joe could have scored from you know, ten yards out, 491 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: and I thought, yeah, that's that's a good sign. Keep 492 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: coming downhill like that. And then it evaporated again. So 493 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: they're they're are indicators, you know that they're close. They 494 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: just got to get it over the top because if 495 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: they can, if they can get a you know, it 496 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be spectacular, but a solid ground game 497 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: going with the weapons they've got, they could be a 498 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,360 Speaker 1: real snoopful for any defense in the National Football League. 499 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: There's no doubt, because you know then you're looking at 500 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: play action pass, you're looking at all kinds of things, 501 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: and if you can stay ahead of the change, that's 502 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: one thing they were doing Dan. They verse five third 503 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: down conversions. With third and one, you can play action pass, 504 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: you can run, you can do anything you want, and 505 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: they converted all five of those. So if they get 506 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: a running game going and stay ahead of the chains, 507 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: they are dictating totally. They are punching and the defense 508 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: is counter punching. You don't want it the other way around, 509 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: where the defense is punching you and it's third and eight, 510 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: third and nine, here they come, and you gotta be 511 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: counter punching. While Joe Mixon is averaging two point seven 512 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: yards per run, Lamar Jackson is averaging eight point five. 513 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: He's ninth in the NFL and rushing yards through four games, 514 00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: and he's one of only two quarterbacks in NFL history 515 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: to rush for more than a thousand yards in a season. 516 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: Michael Vick did it once. Lamar has done it twice 517 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 1: so far. So how does the team practice for a 518 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: quarterback who might be the fastest guy on the field. 519 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: In the Bengals case, they are using defensive back cam 520 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: Taylor Britt, a former high school quarterback with four three 521 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: eight speed the forty to play the role of Lamar 522 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: Jackson at practice. Tell us about trying to help the 523 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: team by impersonating him as well as you can, honestly 524 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 1: just watching the film on him and just trying to 525 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 1: do everything possibly you know that he does, you know, 526 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: so I can help his defense on and give him 527 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: the best look possible for Sunday. Is it fun most definitely. Yeah. 528 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: He's like a player that you you know, create on Madden, 529 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: So you really have to kind of imitate that, you know, 530 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: for a defense so they can get a real look 531 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 1: like the Bengals. The Ravens are two and two after 532 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: playing four straight games against the AFC East. They beat 533 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: the Jets twenty four nine and the Patriots thirty seven 534 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,240 Speaker 1: twenty six, but they blew a twenty one point lead 535 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter and lost to the Dolphins forty 536 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: two thirty eight, and they blew a seventeen point lead 537 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: late in the second quarter and lost last week to 538 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: the Bills twenty three to twenty. The voice of the Ravens, 539 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky, joined us on the Bengals Game Plan Show 540 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: this week and I asked him how Baltimore squandered those 541 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: big lead. Kind of a combination of things won you 542 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: know the Miami game, the secondary had three rookies on 543 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: the field, There was a lot of mental mistakes, some 544 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: communication errors. They left the back door wide open, and 545 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: when you have to speed the Dolphins have they took 546 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: advantage of it, and so it was costly rookie mistakes. 547 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: And then you know last week, have a similar situation 548 00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. And it's easy to point all the 549 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: fingers in the defense, but the offense plays a role 550 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: in this as well. In the fourth quarter of the season, 551 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: Lamar doesn't have a touchdown path and he has three turnovers. 552 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: There was, you know, the controversial decision do the Ravens 553 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: kick the field goal at the end? Do they go 554 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: for the touchdown? While they went they went for the touchdown, 555 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: Lamar throws an interceptions and then it's you know, it's 556 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: game over from there. So to me, one of the 557 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: biggest factors. Is unlike in recent years, the Ravens running 558 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: game isn't putting games away in the fourth quarter the 559 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: way they have the last couple of years. So, you know, 560 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: it's it's easy to stand and say, oh, it's the 561 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: defensive back, where it's this guy for the defensive coordinator. 562 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: It's not that simple. It really he is a lot 563 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 1: of variables to play. So you think about the Ravens, 564 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: it's almost like, you know, the inverted wishbone. It's like 565 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: a college football running game. Three hundred and five pound fullback. Uh, 566 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: you know, they've got, uh, the inverted bone. They've got 567 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: all these different things they have. A quarterback is and 568 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: is he really joint in thirty pounds? Jerry's he gotten 569 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 1: that big I see in the listening in the roster 570 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: he's six two two thirty and I mean he runs 571 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: what's still sub four four. It's amazing with all of 572 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: that that they're struggling in the running game. Is it 573 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: due to the offensive line still jelling a little bit, 574 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: the injury it's a left tackle, the rookie center, all 575 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 1: of that. So it's a little bit of that. The 576 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: rookie fenter. I think Tyler lenardbaut Field a great job. 577 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna you're gonna love what he does. 578 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: He's really every week he's progressively, so he's right on target. 579 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: They are down to their fourth tackle, the rookie daniel Leila, 580 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: who was a backup right tackle. He had to play 581 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: left tackle last week. So not having Ronnie Stanley has 582 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: definitely been a factor, but an eque big factories. Until 583 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 1: the last two weeks, they didn't have JK Dobbins for 584 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: a second year in a row. They had running back 585 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: to are either past their prime, aren't comfortable in the system, 586 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: just aren't a great fit with this offense. And so 587 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: now they got JK Dobbins back. Dobbins is getting back 588 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: up to speed. They got Gus Edwards back on the 589 00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: practice field today. I highly doubt you'll see him on Sunday, 590 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: but at least the pieces are coming back under the 591 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: chessboard that I've been missing for the Ravens. So, you know, 592 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: you take too many pieces off the board, it's really 593 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: hard to do what you've done in the past, and 594 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of where they've been. What about Ronnie Stanley, Jerry, 595 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 1: I know he's practiced a little bit he only played 596 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: in one game last year. Bengals defensive coordinator Louiana Rumo 597 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: said today they're expecting him to play. Is he right? 598 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: Do you think he'll play on Sunday night? I think 599 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: he will. He was really close to playing last week 600 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: but did not play. And look, the Ravens have taken 601 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 1: a very conservative approach with injuries this year because last 602 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: year Stanley felt like he was he felt pressured to 603 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: play in the first game of the season, he reaggravated 604 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: the injury, didn't play all the last year. He's only 605 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: played in one of the last thirty one games, and 606 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: I think there's a feeling of let's make sure it's right. 607 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: And while he was it was really close. It was 608 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,719 Speaker 1: a game day decision last week whether he played or not. 609 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: I think long term it makes sense to just air 610 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: on the side of being conservative and make sure he 611 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: is one hundred ten percent so that once Ronnie Stanley 612 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: returns and I expect him back this week, he returns 613 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 1: for good. Defensively, John Wink Martindale is now a Giant 614 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Mike McDonald's was a coordinated with Michigan with 615 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 1: Jim Harbad, John's brother, but he was on the staff 616 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: with Wink Martindale. You know, he's noted the players, and 617 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: players are familiar with him. But it seems like the 618 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: defense is a little bit more multiple, doing some additional things, 619 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,719 Speaker 1: particularly coverage wise. They're less predictable with their blitz patterns. 620 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: They'll still blitz, I mean, but it's not one of 621 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: those crazy things Bill blitz, and they'll bring like a linebacker, 622 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: they'll bring a safety, they'll bring a nickel corner, those 623 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 1: kinds of things, And it's a little bit it's a 624 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: little bit different, but it's still pressure oriented, isn't it. 625 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 1: It is pressure oriented, but you don't see nearly as 626 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: much cover zero now. Wink Martindale's philosophy is this pressure 627 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: breaks pipes. Well, unfortunately in the second half of last year, 628 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: the pipes that were getting broken were the Ravens and so, 629 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think they became predictably unpredictable was the 630 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: phrase used around the castle. And so with Mike McDonald, 631 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot more multiple. Look, you're seeing a 632 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: lot more two three, cover four, different coverages, and you're 633 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: seeing different blitz packages. You're not you know, you're not 634 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: seeing necessarily blitzess when you expected. They're trying. They're trying 635 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: to reintroduce the element of unpredictability to when then where 636 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: they pressure as they mix that. And one of the 637 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 1: things I will say for you know, he's been taking 638 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: the heat because of the two late end classes, but 639 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: he's a thirty four year old defensive coordinator. He's in 640 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 1: his first year. He's a young guy and he's learning 641 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: on the job. And one of the things we saw 642 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,840 Speaker 1: different coverages last week that we saw in the first 643 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: three weeks of the season, which to me is a 644 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: great time. You know, when you're feeling pressure, you tend 645 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 1: to in life go back to what you know and 646 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: not expand and not try new things. And he's still expanding. 647 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: You know, he's trying new things. He's introducing things step 648 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: by step for his players. So I think in the 649 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: long term it's going to work out, but there are 650 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: short term growth pains and that's not uncommon with the 651 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 1: young coaches. The voice of the Ravens, Jerry Sandusky, is 652 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: our guest. Here's my final question that has to do 653 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. Is his contract situation. The Ravens tried 654 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 1: to give him a bundle of money. He did not 655 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: ultimately accept the offer. Is that causing tension or or 656 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: hanging over this season for the Ravens. I don't think though. 657 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's bothering the Ravens of the least. 658 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: You know, if it's bothering Lamar, he doesn't let on 659 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: about it. He handled himself very well. He was he 660 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: was quite diplomatic. There was no acrimony, there was no 661 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: of holding out. There's none of that. From an organizational standpoint. 662 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: The Ravens know that they can't get a deal done. 663 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,399 Speaker 1: They've got the franchise tag they can use the next 664 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: two years. That's not what they want to do. But 665 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: the team still has the leverage if Lamar puts together 666 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: the kind of season he wants to play together wins 667 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: the super Bowl, you know, I'm sure it'll be a 668 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: much more engaging conversation at the negotiating table in the offseason. 669 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: But because it doesn't have to be done tomorrow, because 670 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: the team wants Lamar, Lamar knows he's wanted. It's really 671 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: down to how big subsigning vote is going to be. 672 00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: I think both sides still feel like they will eventually 673 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,480 Speaker 1: get it done. Last week, Third and One don't score 674 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: forts and one throwing an interception at the just blew 675 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: up on social media where Peters and John harborwor tchurff 676 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: and back and forth at each other a little bit 677 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: over you know, why didn't Why was it the field 678 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,359 Speaker 1: goal kicked? YadA YadA? Is there any lingering effect from that? 679 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: Or how has John Harbaugh handled it? It's everything okay 680 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: with Harball and Peters. Yeah, I think everything's fine there. 681 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: Peters did not talk with the media today, but Marlon Humphrey, 682 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 1: is running mate at the other corner, did and he said, look, 683 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: we're a family. He said, you know, families fight, but 684 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: we're fighting because we all want to win. And that's 685 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: the big thing. If John Hardball was an argument with 686 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: a player because he thought the player didn't care or 687 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: wasn't giving his all, then you'd have a problem. But 688 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, game day, when a coach and a player 689 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: get into it because they both want to win so much, 690 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 1: and they might disagree on the player or the call 691 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: that it's a lot, they are on the same page 692 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to do what it takes to win. 693 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna standing long term problems there. 694 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 1: Hardball loves the competitiveness of Marcus Peters and he has 695 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: no problem with guys showing that level. And you know, 696 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,440 Speaker 1: John's a veteran coach, just fifteenth years, so he understands 697 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: what guys do and say sometimes in the heat of 698 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,840 Speaker 1: the decision that a game hangs on is a little 699 00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: different than what they might think about or say on 700 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: a win. Our thanks to Jerry Sandusky. And here's an 701 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: invitation to join us at the Wings and Rings King's 702 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: Mills location for the Bengals pep Rally show this Friday 703 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: from three to six. Rookie defensive end Jeffrey Gunter will 704 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: join us in the final hour and we'll have plenty 705 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: of giveaways throughout the show. 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