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Speaker 3: you learn you try not to repeat your errors, so

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Speaker 3: it's all good there. But you know, Patriots Nation is

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Speaker 3: very nervous right now, please Patriot Nation nervous. I wrote

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Speaker 3: I'm not this is in hindsight. I notice a very

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Speaker 3: that flag ever go down, ever, go limp. So you

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Speaker 3: don't want the flag, you know, we don't want the flag.

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Speaker 3: I need money. The thing could make you money. What

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Speaker 3: would you do? You know, like I wouldn't mind teaching tennis.

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Speaker 4: That's a rich man's sport. Put the grape smugglers on.

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Speaker 3: That's what I just said. Guy.

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Speaker 3: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here

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Speaker 4: I don't want to give anything away about a happy pickstay.

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Speaker 3: Oh for all, happy much, just for you, no, pretty

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Speaker 3: much for everybody. Okay, all right, well we're getting better.

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Speaker 3: Took us nine weeks, but we're getting there. A couple

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Speaker 3: well we'll get there. We got to hurry, but we

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Speaker 3: will get there eventually. But first, let's talk about Patriots again.

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Speaker 3: It's Paul and me and Alex. And you know, I

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Speaker 3: was thinking, I was thinking we on this show. We've

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Speaker 3: like to call like we see it, but to be

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Speaker 3: was thinking, how easy, especially when you're two and seven

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Speaker 3: things aren't going right, how easy it is to like,

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Speaker 3: it's it's easy. It's a lot tougher. Two, you know,

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Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, And I didn't like the lack of urgency

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Speaker 4: Drake May and do I agree with a lot of

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Speaker 4: other things that they've done. No, I don't like the system.

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Speaker 4: But more way more important to me is how Drake

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Speaker 3: I think if the season ended today, I would keep

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Speaker 6: I'm with it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even if you've got a type pants guy, well, oh,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. But but again, so I bring in a type

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Speaker 4: It's hard because that's you know, this would be now

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Speaker 4: it's it should be part of the equation with the

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Speaker 6: Especially when we for so long we like laughed at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So you know when I see the emails and

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Speaker 3: we hear the calls, and you know, I listened to

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's it's easy. It's easy to do that

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Speaker 3: what I hope is that drawd mail really and if

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Speaker 3: nothing else, is a good evaluator of his of his staff,

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Speaker 3: and at the end of the season, makes tough decisions

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Speaker 3: if tough decisions need to be made, and don't worry

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Speaker 3: about hurting feelings. If there is somebody, you know, an assistant,

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Speaker 3: a position coach or whatever that he feels he can upgrade,

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Speaker 3: he needs to make that call. On the same side,

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Speaker 3: if you know, if someone is you know, in his

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Speaker 3: mind doing a good job. Don't succumb to the rabble

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Speaker 3: and support that person. But but look at it, clear eyes,

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Speaker 3: full heart right, can't lose, can't lose. So that's just

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Speaker 4: Tammy Taylor as your wife, can't lose.

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Speaker 3: I don't know from that, Honey, Britain.

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Speaker 4: You gotta keep up, you gotta keep up with my crushes,

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Speaker 4: all right, Okay, Alex new I never.

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Speaker 3: Watched Friday Night Lights. I heard it was a great show.

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Speaker 3: Great show.

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't seen that. Have you seen the movie?

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Speaker 6: No movie show.

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Speaker 3: That's probably why I didn't see the show.

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Speaker 6: Tell me that's not worse than me not seeing Jaws.

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Speaker 3: No, you're not seeing Jaws is worse. Has so much

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Speaker 6: couple plays he can put together a drive to put

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00:22:23,234 --> 00:22:26,873
Speaker 6: this team ahead. And I if the other side of

433
00:22:26,874 --> 00:22:31,553
Speaker 6: the ball wasn't so dysfunctional unpredictably, would this be a fun,

434
00:22:31,593 --> 00:22:35,313
Speaker 6: frisky team making a push like to string together wins

435
00:22:35,353 --> 00:22:38,113
Speaker 6: at the end of a season and attract more talent,

436
00:22:38,194 --> 00:22:40,194
Speaker 6: attract receivers that want to be part of that.

437
00:22:40,474 --> 00:22:43,354
Speaker 3: Well, listen, I'll agree with you this. If this defense

438
00:22:43,434 --> 00:22:45,234
Speaker 3: was as good as a lot of people thought it

439
00:22:45,394 --> 00:22:49,154
Speaker 3: was last year, except for Paul, I think you'd be right.

440
00:22:49,194 --> 00:22:51,714
Speaker 3: I think these games would be a lot more interesting.

441
00:22:52,394 --> 00:22:55,113
Speaker 3: When it comes to Judon, though, if I can have

442
00:22:55,194 --> 00:22:57,593
Speaker 3: Judon from two years ago, I'm with you, yeah, But

443
00:22:58,194 --> 00:23:00,313
Speaker 3: I mean, look at what he's done in Atlanta and

444
00:23:00,793 --> 00:23:04,954
Speaker 3: you got a third and he was you know, he

445
00:23:05,114 --> 00:23:09,513
Speaker 3: was disgruntled and all that stuff, and maybe they knew

446
00:23:09,553 --> 00:23:12,154
Speaker 3: a little bit more about where his level of play

447
00:23:12,353 --> 00:23:16,674
Speaker 3: was at than we did, and so I can't say

448
00:23:16,714 --> 00:23:18,833
Speaker 3: now that, oh we should have kept Judon. No, we

449
00:23:18,914 --> 00:23:21,674
Speaker 3: got a third. I think it was pretty good compensation

450
00:23:21,874 --> 00:23:25,194
Speaker 3: for a guy like that, and he's done squat in Atlanta.

451
00:23:25,313 --> 00:23:28,273
Speaker 4: I like the trade because of the compensation. But I

452
00:23:28,634 --> 00:23:31,393
Speaker 4: understand I'm taking it from the side that Alex is

453
00:23:31,434 --> 00:23:31,994
Speaker 4: putting it on.

454
00:23:32,754 --> 00:23:33,714
Speaker 6: There's intangibles.

455
00:23:33,754 --> 00:23:36,033
Speaker 4: It's not just like they also.

456
00:23:37,833 --> 00:23:40,114
Speaker 5: Team and that was like Leo not.

457
00:23:40,114 --> 00:23:43,393
Speaker 6: To get into the zodiacs, but like that's an ego,

458
00:23:43,513 --> 00:23:46,954
Speaker 6: that's a fire that like gts under other guys, and

459
00:23:47,513 --> 00:23:49,593
Speaker 6: they just were so tight knit and they love to

460
00:23:49,634 --> 00:23:51,513
Speaker 6: be around each other, and I think there's something to

461
00:23:51,553 --> 00:23:52,833
Speaker 6: be said for that chemistry.

462
00:23:53,553 --> 00:23:57,234
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just think that it's also one of the

463
00:23:57,273 --> 00:24:01,434
Speaker 4: thinnest positions that on the roster edge edge, like he's

464
00:24:01,553 --> 00:24:04,033
Speaker 4: kind of one of one. Yeah, you know, I'll call

465
00:24:04,434 --> 00:24:10,474
Speaker 4: a half and no. But like when he was really successful,

466
00:24:10,593 --> 00:24:13,434
Speaker 4: it was when Judon was on the other side. Then

467
00:24:13,674 --> 00:24:16,953
Speaker 4: last year when Judon only played four games, Usha was

468
00:24:17,033 --> 00:24:20,513
Speaker 4: kind of invisible. So you you lost like one and

469
00:24:20,553 --> 00:24:23,674
Speaker 4: a half players when you traded Judon, and you didn't

470
00:24:23,714 --> 00:24:27,273
Speaker 4: really have anything, you know, in the pipeline to replace them.

471
00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:31,073
Speaker 3: I agree with Fred. I think it was a good trade.

472
00:24:31,394 --> 00:24:33,153
Speaker 4: I don't think you were gonna I don't think Judoon

473
00:24:33,234 --> 00:24:34,793
Speaker 4: was going to be part of anything you were gonna

474
00:24:34,833 --> 00:24:37,673
Speaker 4: do successfully. And I think if Judah was here playing

475
00:24:37,714 --> 00:24:40,513
Speaker 4: at his peak, they'd be two and seven. I really,

476
00:24:40,553 --> 00:24:41,353
Speaker 4: I really believe that.

477
00:24:41,394 --> 00:24:42,393
Speaker 3: You know that. I believe that.

478
00:24:43,474 --> 00:24:47,513
Speaker 4: I think that they're short on so many different areas.

479
00:24:47,994 --> 00:24:50,593
Speaker 4: They would have a hard time. They would have a

480
00:24:50,593 --> 00:24:55,153
Speaker 4: hard time with or without him. But Lawrence Guy, Matthew Judon,

481
00:24:56,273 --> 00:24:58,914
Speaker 4: maybe if you lost the other guys that you've lost,

482
00:24:58,914 --> 00:25:01,474
Speaker 4: it wouldn't be as big of a problem defensively.

483
00:25:01,513 --> 00:25:05,593
Speaker 6: But that's what I'm saying it. Guy at the time

484
00:25:05,754 --> 00:25:08,153
Speaker 6: was like, Okay, they have Barmore, Like it's gonna be

485
00:25:08,194 --> 00:25:10,354
Speaker 6: fine right now, Barmos, Like you know what I mean.

486
00:25:10,394 --> 00:25:12,154
Speaker 6: It's just that's what I mentioned about like the butterfly.

487
00:25:12,833 --> 00:25:16,313
Speaker 3: So here's the question that obviously there's no right answer to.

488
00:25:16,434 --> 00:25:19,754
Speaker 3: But had they known that they was gonna they were

489
00:25:19,754 --> 00:25:22,513
Speaker 3: gonna lose Bentley, and they were gonna lose Peppers, and

490
00:25:22,513 --> 00:25:25,234
Speaker 3: they're gonna lose Barmore, Well, they knew that Barbara was

491
00:25:25,313 --> 00:25:29,153
Speaker 3: out at that time when they traded Judon, Oh they did, Okay,

492
00:25:29,234 --> 00:25:30,154
Speaker 3: oh never mind.

493
00:25:30,394 --> 00:25:32,833
Speaker 4: Well just just barmore the rest of its right, But

494
00:25:32,914 --> 00:25:33,393
Speaker 4: all these.

495
00:25:33,234 --> 00:25:35,594
Speaker 3: Other guys, you know, would they been as have been

496
00:25:35,634 --> 00:25:38,914
Speaker 3: as willing to get rid of Judan or I've heard

497
00:25:38,954 --> 00:25:41,353
Speaker 3: people say this. They knew they weren't going to do

498
00:25:41,434 --> 00:25:44,714
Speaker 3: much this year, you know, and winning a couple extra

499
00:25:44,793 --> 00:25:49,313
Speaker 3: games with Judon wasn't gonna that doesn't move the needle

500
00:25:49,353 --> 00:25:51,874
Speaker 3: for them. The third is more valuable at this point

501
00:25:51,954 --> 00:25:53,994
Speaker 3: because they just knew this was not going to be

502
00:25:53,994 --> 00:25:56,954
Speaker 3: a season where wins are going to be that important.

503
00:25:56,954 --> 00:25:59,234
Speaker 3: It's going to be who's who are we going to

504
00:25:59,353 --> 00:26:01,674
Speaker 3: keep for the future in the development of Drake May

505
00:26:01,914 --> 00:26:04,713
Speaker 3: That's the two most important things for this season. And

506
00:26:04,754 --> 00:26:06,673
Speaker 3: so then they were more willing to give up a

507
00:26:06,674 --> 00:26:07,393
Speaker 3: guy like Juden.

508
00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,114
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I get the one.

509
00:26:09,273 --> 00:26:10,234
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying.

510
00:26:10,793 --> 00:26:16,194
Speaker 6: It's all hindsight, but you just like, I don't know,

511
00:26:16,874 --> 00:26:19,273
Speaker 6: I guess a couple more wins this year in the

512
00:26:19,273 --> 00:26:21,994
Speaker 6: grand scheme of things like who cares you want the

513
00:26:22,073 --> 00:26:25,714
Speaker 6: draft pick anyways, But what it does for the morale

514
00:26:25,793 --> 00:26:29,714
Speaker 6: of the guys, Like I think back to Detroit a

515
00:26:29,754 --> 00:26:32,994
Speaker 6: couple of years ago when they no one cared about Detroit.

516
00:26:33,033 --> 00:26:35,393
Speaker 6: They weren't really great, and they went on like a

517
00:26:35,394 --> 00:26:37,153
Speaker 6: little run at the end of the season and they

518
00:26:37,154 --> 00:26:39,994
Speaker 6: were fun and exciting and then their success just propelled

519
00:26:40,033 --> 00:26:42,513
Speaker 6: from there. And that's like a perfect scenario for me

520
00:26:42,593 --> 00:26:44,954
Speaker 6: with this team, to just catch fire at the end

521
00:26:44,954 --> 00:26:48,513
Speaker 6: of the season, get people excited, and what does that do?

522
00:26:48,593 --> 00:26:49,353
Speaker 6: What does that attract?

523
00:26:49,553 --> 00:26:49,714
Speaker 3: Right?

524
00:26:49,833 --> 00:26:52,553
Speaker 4: But the difference, I would say, and I love that

525
00:26:52,714 --> 00:26:55,833
Speaker 4: Lions comparison. A lot of people have been talking about

526
00:26:55,874 --> 00:26:59,433
Speaker 4: it lately. The difference is it was more like to

527
00:26:59,474 --> 00:27:02,873
Speaker 4: me the ninety three one that we use Mike, you know,

528
00:27:02,954 --> 00:27:05,234
Speaker 4: and Mike's here, everybody see wicked, wicked, handsome Mic.

529
00:27:05,313 --> 00:27:06,834
Speaker 8: We'll right into.

530
00:27:06,634 --> 00:27:12,714
Speaker 9: It, all right, all right, friendly, I can't.

531
00:27:14,394 --> 00:27:20,634
Speaker 6: What was it like?

532
00:27:20,874 --> 00:27:21,594
Speaker 5: So catchy?

533
00:27:21,634 --> 00:27:21,994
Speaker 3: This one?

534
00:27:22,073 --> 00:27:22,273
Speaker 7: Really?

535
00:27:23,553 --> 00:27:26,314
Speaker 3: Watching is the best one? Watching? Matt. As soon as

536
00:27:26,353 --> 00:27:27,634
Speaker 3: Mike sat down, he was.

537
00:27:27,593 --> 00:27:30,793
Speaker 8: Just waiting, I said, was going on, I get the

538
00:27:30,833 --> 00:27:32,354
Speaker 8: song ready, And I was like, do you think there's

539
00:27:32,394 --> 00:27:34,073
Speaker 8: ever like smoke in the mix? Like maybe get a

540
00:27:34,073 --> 00:27:36,793
Speaker 8: little you know, the smoke comes in?

541
00:27:36,833 --> 00:27:37,193
Speaker 3: Maybe not.

542
00:27:37,914 --> 00:27:40,513
Speaker 8: I'm glad for the studio. No, I don't want to

543
00:27:40,553 --> 00:27:40,873
Speaker 8: jump on.

544
00:27:41,033 --> 00:27:44,393
Speaker 4: We talk about the ninety three to one, like I

545
00:27:44,394 --> 00:27:48,154
Speaker 4: think the Detroit one is similar and the just the Fred.

546
00:27:48,194 --> 00:27:51,313
Speaker 4: You probably are not as aware of the actual numbers

547
00:27:51,313 --> 00:27:54,914
Speaker 4: that Alex is talking about. Dan Campbell's first year, Jared

548
00:27:54,994 --> 00:27:58,833
Speaker 4: Gross's first year, they were winless after like eleven games,

549
00:27:59,634 --> 00:28:02,033
Speaker 4: and they went three and three down the stretch, So

550
00:28:02,073 --> 00:28:05,553
Speaker 4: they ended up going three thirteen and one, and you're like, oh, okay,

551
00:28:05,634 --> 00:28:08,553
Speaker 4: well whatever, But like they had shown some signs of improvement.

552
00:28:08,593 --> 00:28:12,113
Speaker 4: It was a very young team that was playing. It

553
00:28:12,154 --> 00:28:14,833
Speaker 4: wasn't like, oh, we won a couple of games because

554
00:28:14,874 --> 00:28:17,273
Speaker 4: Matthew Judo and Lawrence guy was still here and they're

555
00:28:17,313 --> 00:28:19,474
Speaker 4: not going to be here next year anyway, do you

556
00:28:19,553 --> 00:28:19,713
Speaker 4: know what?

557
00:28:19,914 --> 00:28:22,553
Speaker 3: Like that to me's the difference. They won. They they

558
00:28:22,634 --> 00:28:24,634
Speaker 3: they want the guys who are likely to be there.

559
00:28:24,674 --> 00:28:28,394
Speaker 4: They drafted very well, and those guys started to play.

560
00:28:28,674 --> 00:28:31,594
Speaker 4: Then they drafted very well again, and they augmented those

561
00:28:31,634 --> 00:28:33,873
Speaker 4: young guys with more young guys, and now all of

562
00:28:33,914 --> 00:28:36,273
Speaker 4: a sudden, those young guys aren't so young anymore, and

563
00:28:36,313 --> 00:28:37,593
Speaker 4: you're want of the best teams in the LEM mean,

564
00:28:37,593 --> 00:28:39,354
Speaker 4: you could make a case that Detroit is the best

565
00:28:39,554 --> 00:28:43,874
Speaker 4: team in the league right now. That to me is different,

566
00:28:44,074 --> 00:28:46,674
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that for those reasons, I would

567
00:28:46,674 --> 00:28:49,633
Speaker 4: have gotten rid of everybody, but whether they won another

568
00:28:49,674 --> 00:28:51,914
Speaker 4: couple of games, and I don't believe that would have

569
00:28:51,954 --> 00:28:53,914
Speaker 4: been the case, especially as Fred says, I haven't really

570
00:28:53,914 --> 00:28:57,274
Speaker 4: been following Atlanta, you know, with Judon, Fred says, he's

571
00:28:57,314 --> 00:29:00,274
Speaker 4: done nothing for the Falcons. I don't think he would

572
00:29:00,314 --> 00:29:03,714
Speaker 4: have been worth a couple of wins anyway. And even

573
00:29:03,754 --> 00:29:06,474
Speaker 4: if he was, I don't necessarily think that helps build

574
00:29:06,554 --> 00:29:09,714
Speaker 4: your culture as much as people think because they're not here.

575
00:29:10,554 --> 00:29:12,913
Speaker 4: Like if the young guys step in, if Keyon White

576
00:29:13,594 --> 00:29:16,234
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you know, proves that he can

577
00:29:16,274 --> 00:29:20,234
Speaker 4: be something more than just kind of a high motor

578
00:29:20,314 --> 00:29:22,914
Speaker 4: interior guy, you know, he turns into like a really

579
00:29:22,914 --> 00:29:25,394
Speaker 4: disrupted force on a down by you know, down after

580
00:29:25,474 --> 00:29:28,673
Speaker 4: down basis, that's worth a lot more than a win

581
00:29:28,794 --> 00:29:29,114
Speaker 4: or two.

582
00:29:29,554 --> 00:29:31,794
Speaker 3: Do you think bomb and we'll get to you in

583
00:29:31,834 --> 00:29:33,714
Speaker 3: a sec. But you hold on time. Do you think

584
00:29:33,754 --> 00:29:37,474
Speaker 3: bar Moore, if he's you know, if obviously, if he's

585
00:29:37,954 --> 00:29:40,234
Speaker 3: you know, clear to go, is it worth for him

586
00:29:40,274 --> 00:29:42,354
Speaker 3: to get in for the last two or three games

587
00:29:42,674 --> 00:29:44,914
Speaker 3: or should he just wait till next year?

588
00:29:45,154 --> 00:29:46,994
Speaker 8: I think I think for what Alex was saying, I

589
00:29:46,994 --> 00:29:48,474
Speaker 8: think he can give you a spark. He can he

590
00:29:48,474 --> 00:29:50,834
Speaker 8: can help, you know, get that thing that she was,

591
00:29:50,994 --> 00:29:53,633
Speaker 8: you know, just talking about. It's great topic though, Like

592
00:29:53,674 --> 00:29:55,994
Speaker 8: I mean, just to jump into my little report here,

593
00:29:57,154 --> 00:30:00,153
Speaker 8: because this is exactly what Jonathan Jones said, you know,

594
00:30:00,314 --> 00:30:03,474
Speaker 8: was asked two and seven, is it hard to stay motivated?

595
00:30:03,474 --> 00:30:05,754
Speaker 8: And he said, it's a different vibe right now. He said,

596
00:30:05,754 --> 00:30:08,034
Speaker 8: there's a lot of young guys on the team, and

597
00:30:08,074 --> 00:30:10,554
Speaker 8: they're all hungry still. And he said, a couple of

598
00:30:10,594 --> 00:30:12,754
Speaker 8: years ago, in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty two, when

599
00:30:12,754 --> 00:30:14,834
Speaker 8: it started not going so good, you had some veterans.

600
00:30:15,234 --> 00:30:17,153
Speaker 8: He kind of trailed off there, and but the you know,

601
00:30:17,194 --> 00:30:20,514
Speaker 8: the implication was that veterans used to winning, when it

602
00:30:20,554 --> 00:30:22,554
Speaker 8: starts to go bad, those are the guys you kind

603
00:30:22,554 --> 00:30:24,914
Speaker 8: of lose. Whereas right now, like Alex was saying, you

604
00:30:24,914 --> 00:30:26,113
Speaker 8: have a litt little bit of a young team, a

605
00:30:26,154 --> 00:30:28,394
Speaker 8: little bit of a young spark, and these guys they

606
00:30:28,474 --> 00:30:29,954
Speaker 8: just want to get back on the field, They want

607
00:30:29,954 --> 00:30:31,673
Speaker 8: to perform, they want to get another chance to go

608
00:30:31,714 --> 00:30:33,473
Speaker 8: out there and show what they can do. So I

609
00:30:33,474 --> 00:30:35,634
Speaker 8: do think it feeds into what you know, you guys

610
00:30:35,634 --> 00:30:38,034
Speaker 8: are saying, and that it could line up a vote

611
00:30:38,034 --> 00:30:39,674
Speaker 8: a confidence for this team that they're headed in the

612
00:30:39,754 --> 00:30:43,034
Speaker 8: right direction, that this coaching staff can pull them together.

613
00:30:43,074 --> 00:30:45,274
Speaker 3: And I would imagine for young guys who just in

614
00:30:45,314 --> 00:30:48,873
Speaker 3: the league, who haven't experience winning, a guy like Devin mccordy,

615
00:30:48,954 --> 00:30:52,034
Speaker 3: who great guy of course, puts a different type of

616
00:30:52,074 --> 00:30:55,354
Speaker 3: pressure on them than they're feeling right now, you know,

617
00:30:55,394 --> 00:30:57,994
Speaker 3: and it's a guy like you know, he knows how

618
00:30:57,994 --> 00:31:00,354
Speaker 3: to do it and what it takes to win. And

619
00:31:00,754 --> 00:31:03,434
Speaker 3: maybe that kind of pressure isn't what they need right now.

620
00:31:03,954 --> 00:31:06,834
Speaker 3: You know, they need the more development pressure, more individual

621
00:31:06,874 --> 00:31:10,914
Speaker 3: pressure your game, not the overall team, but you need

622
00:31:10,954 --> 00:31:13,114
Speaker 3: to get better, not you know what I mean.

623
00:31:13,314 --> 00:31:16,194
Speaker 4: J Javon Baker. They need to show that they're NFL

624
00:31:16,234 --> 00:31:20,554
Speaker 4: players right right, Like that's their pressure, Yeah, establishing themselves

625
00:31:20,594 --> 00:31:22,434
Speaker 4: as players in this league.

626
00:31:22,514 --> 00:31:24,314
Speaker 8: I give it Fret saying though, where it seems like

627
00:31:24,394 --> 00:31:27,113
Speaker 8: that team and guys would come in it's like the

628
00:31:27,154 --> 00:31:29,913
Speaker 8: standard is super Bowl. That's the standard around here.

629
00:31:29,794 --> 00:31:31,554
Speaker 3: And that's kind of unrealistic right now.

630
00:31:31,634 --> 00:31:34,394
Speaker 8: That's unrealistic, you know that. And I mean it's hard

631
00:31:34,434 --> 00:31:37,153
Speaker 8: because you want to still have high standards and expect

632
00:31:37,154 --> 00:31:39,474
Speaker 8: that the guys can, you know, maybe not play on

633
00:31:39,514 --> 00:31:41,474
Speaker 8: that level, but they know that what they have to

634
00:31:41,514 --> 00:31:42,114
Speaker 8: do to get there.

635
00:31:42,314 --> 00:31:46,834
Speaker 3: But there's about ten they're having some flexibility.

636
00:31:46,034 --> 00:31:48,274
Speaker 8: Without feeling like, oh God, if I don't you know,

637
00:31:48,314 --> 00:31:50,314
Speaker 8: play right, I'm going to derail this whole ship. It's

638
00:31:50,354 --> 00:31:51,994
Speaker 8: everybody understands where they're at right now.

639
00:31:52,394 --> 00:31:55,594
Speaker 4: Yeah, for bar more specifically in your question, like it's

640
00:31:55,674 --> 00:31:57,954
Speaker 4: all funny, I think you and I had this conversation

641
00:31:58,074 --> 00:32:02,034
Speaker 4: off air the other day, Right, Mike, it has to

642
00:32:02,074 --> 00:32:06,154
Speaker 4: be one hundred percent about the health. So I have

643
00:32:06,234 --> 00:32:09,514
Speaker 4: to think that they're not even contemplating this unless there's

644
00:32:09,594 --> 00:32:15,074
Speaker 4: like one hundred percent certainty on the doctors that whatever

645
00:32:15,114 --> 00:32:19,754
Speaker 4: they've done to alleviate the problem has been done and successful. Right,

646
00:32:19,834 --> 00:32:23,234
Speaker 4: otherwise you're not even talking about it. But if that's

647
00:32:23,274 --> 00:32:27,594
Speaker 4: all happened, and I don't know that it has, I'm

648
00:32:27,634 --> 00:32:30,194
Speaker 4: just like Gerrod keeps saying, it's closer. It kind of

649
00:32:30,194 --> 00:32:34,873
Speaker 4: confuses me closer to what though exactly like, yeah, to me,

650
00:32:34,954 --> 00:32:38,154
Speaker 4: either a blood clot problem is resolved or it isn't. Yeah,

651
00:32:38,274 --> 00:32:40,194
Speaker 4: I don't know how you get close to being resolved.

652
00:32:40,194 --> 00:32:42,754
Speaker 3: Well, but but but even once the blood clot thing

653
00:32:42,834 --> 00:32:46,594
Speaker 3: is resolved, there's getting your strength back and getting into

654
00:32:46,594 --> 00:32:50,074
Speaker 3: football shape. Yeah, I just don't think that there's time.

655
00:32:50,434 --> 00:32:51,994
Speaker 8: He's been around a lot. I mean, I don't know what.

656
00:32:52,034 --> 00:32:53,994
Speaker 8: I don't know spend point, but you see him around

657
00:32:54,034 --> 00:32:56,194
Speaker 8: a lot. I mean I know, initially a few weeks

658
00:32:56,194 --> 00:32:57,393
Speaker 8: didn't see him around all, and then all of a

659
00:32:57,394 --> 00:32:58,754
Speaker 8: sudden he's kind of in the locker room. Hey, it's

660
00:32:58,794 --> 00:33:00,794
Speaker 8: good to see him. But now it seems like whenever

661
00:33:00,794 --> 00:33:03,594
Speaker 8: we're going out to practice or and he's around working

662
00:33:03,634 --> 00:33:05,234
Speaker 8: out too. I mean, I don't know how close it

663
00:33:05,314 --> 00:33:05,794
Speaker 8: is to real.

664
00:33:06,274 --> 00:33:08,434
Speaker 3: How does it look, you know, like does he look

665
00:33:08,474 --> 00:33:10,794
Speaker 3: bigger or smaller? Looks to me? Same?

666
00:33:10,834 --> 00:33:11,074
Speaker 7: Okay.

667
00:33:11,554 --> 00:33:14,834
Speaker 4: I mean I would say that if everything medically is

668
00:33:14,874 --> 00:33:17,074
Speaker 4: on board, I would absolutely bring him back and play,

669
00:33:17,874 --> 00:33:19,634
Speaker 4: even if just for another gamer, just.

670
00:33:19,594 --> 00:33:21,434
Speaker 8: To prove to the player that he can come back.

671
00:33:21,714 --> 00:33:24,594
Speaker 3: To that point if he comes back for the last

672
00:33:24,634 --> 00:33:27,474
Speaker 3: two or three games and all of a sudden because

673
00:33:27,474 --> 00:33:32,873
Speaker 3: he's there, key on White, Yeah, like that's exciting, that's exciting. Okay,

674
00:33:33,074 --> 00:33:33,633
Speaker 3: I agree.

675
00:33:33,834 --> 00:33:36,554
Speaker 8: I agree. Two guys in the inside that can cause

676
00:33:36,594 --> 00:33:38,514
Speaker 8: consistent disruption. I mean it's you.

677
00:33:38,474 --> 00:33:40,234
Speaker 3: Know, it'll be the run game looks better.

678
00:33:40,314 --> 00:33:42,154
Speaker 8: I don't know what this team's gonna look like next year.

679
00:33:42,114 --> 00:33:43,994
Speaker 8: The will obviously be you know, some changes in additions

680
00:33:44,034 --> 00:33:45,474
Speaker 8: and stuff. But I would say the key on White,

681
00:33:45,554 --> 00:33:47,873
Speaker 8: Christian Barmore of it all that is intriguing to me,

682
00:33:47,914 --> 00:33:50,034
Speaker 8: and that's, you know, something to build around for this defense.

683
00:33:50,234 --> 00:33:53,274
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, what else from the locker room.

684
00:33:53,754 --> 00:33:57,394
Speaker 8: Yeah, we heard from Antonio Gibson. We heard from Trey Jacobs. Uh,

685
00:33:57,634 --> 00:33:59,554
Speaker 8: you know, he was he was funny. You know, everybody's

686
00:33:59,554 --> 00:34:01,474
Speaker 8: got to ask him about the last play with you know,

687
00:34:01,514 --> 00:34:03,354
Speaker 8: with Drake. He called it the last play, like we

688
00:34:03,354 --> 00:34:04,434
Speaker 8: don't we're just gonna ignore.

689
00:34:04,194 --> 00:34:05,114
Speaker 3: What happened over time.

690
00:34:05,194 --> 00:34:08,314
Speaker 4: But but he said, that is what Patriots fanish.

691
00:34:08,914 --> 00:34:10,554
Speaker 8: He was like, I didn't even know we threw it.

692
00:34:10,634 --> 00:34:13,194
Speaker 3: Like I was like, I saw he threw it.

693
00:34:13,194 --> 00:34:13,594
Speaker 7: I didn't know.

694
00:34:13,674 --> 00:34:16,634
Speaker 8: Remondra had caught it. So all those guys were just,

695
00:34:16,674 --> 00:34:18,473
Speaker 8: you know, really impressed with with Drake. You can see

696
00:34:18,514 --> 00:34:21,074
Speaker 8: he's having an impact on these guys and they have

697
00:34:21,194 --> 00:34:25,953
Speaker 8: that kind of because shake their head like yeah, like man,

698
00:34:25,994 --> 00:34:29,434
Speaker 8: that's a good play. Antonio Gibson a little quiet, reserved.

699
00:34:29,554 --> 00:34:31,554
Speaker 8: I don't know, I just he's you know, I mean

700
00:34:31,714 --> 00:34:34,873
Speaker 8: some pointed questions credit, you know, to our friend Taylor

701
00:34:34,913 --> 00:34:36,873
Speaker 8: Kyle said, you know, you've been kind of known for

702
00:34:36,913 --> 00:34:39,393
Speaker 8: your pass catching skill third down back. You haven't really

703
00:34:39,674 --> 00:34:42,234
Speaker 8: gotten involved in that this year, And he talked a

704
00:34:42,234 --> 00:34:44,194
Speaker 8: lot about you know, I'm just I'm trying to what

705
00:34:44,314 --> 00:34:45,834
Speaker 8: was the word he said, I'm trying to change up

706
00:34:45,873 --> 00:34:46,873
Speaker 8: how I'm doing things a little bit.

707
00:34:46,873 --> 00:34:47,154
Speaker 7: I don't know.

708
00:34:47,194 --> 00:34:50,073
Speaker 8: He was implying that he had to make changes. Didn't

709
00:34:50,074 --> 00:34:53,074
Speaker 8: get into too much to Yeah, yeah, so I don't know,

710
00:34:53,114 --> 00:34:55,914
Speaker 8: there was a little something going on there, maybe beneath

711
00:34:55,953 --> 00:34:57,354
Speaker 8: the surface with him. I mean, I think we all

712
00:34:57,354 --> 00:35:00,194
Speaker 8: are kind of like curious with Paul You've mentioned when

713
00:35:00,194 --> 00:35:01,913
Speaker 8: he got in there for Ronde a couple of weeks ago.

714
00:35:01,913 --> 00:35:03,593
Speaker 8: We haven't really seen much of him. I know he's

715
00:35:03,834 --> 00:35:06,634
Speaker 8: had an injury as well that he's dealing with. But

716
00:35:06,634 --> 00:35:08,393
Speaker 8: but yeah, those were those were the three guys we

717
00:35:08,433 --> 00:35:10,354
Speaker 8: heard from Jay Jones. You know, Jones just got such

718
00:35:10,354 --> 00:35:12,834
Speaker 8: a perspective from a guy that's been here, and you know,

719
00:35:12,994 --> 00:35:14,874
Speaker 8: I just I do think that was the most interesting

720
00:35:14,913 --> 00:35:16,554
Speaker 8: comment to me though, is that it's just a different

721
00:35:16,634 --> 00:35:17,794
Speaker 8: vibe right now at two and seven.

722
00:35:17,794 --> 00:35:21,234
Speaker 3: Then were you win the locker room or the video room? Well,

723
00:35:21,234 --> 00:35:21,873
Speaker 3: I do both. Fred.

724
00:35:21,913 --> 00:35:23,593
Speaker 8: I make sure I make sure I get in and

725
00:35:23,634 --> 00:35:25,513
Speaker 8: get a feel because you know, I don't know. You

726
00:35:25,554 --> 00:35:26,913
Speaker 8: might ask me what the mood in the locker room

727
00:35:26,994 --> 00:35:28,594
Speaker 8: was like, and I want to have an answer. A

728
00:35:28,594 --> 00:35:30,714
Speaker 8: little quieter in the locker room today though little not

729
00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:32,274
Speaker 8: not as many people going on. So I got all

730
00:35:32,274 --> 00:35:34,274
Speaker 8: the interviews in the revistable locker room, and then I

731
00:35:34,354 --> 00:35:36,913
Speaker 8: just go in and get the vibes. He with the

732
00:35:37,154 --> 00:35:41,234
Speaker 8: small press, let's say smaller, definitely noticed that people today, Yeah,

733
00:35:41,393 --> 00:35:42,593
Speaker 8: counted there?

734
00:35:42,634 --> 00:35:42,873
Speaker 10: What was?

735
00:35:42,913 --> 00:35:43,433
Speaker 8: What?

736
00:35:43,433 --> 00:35:43,834
Speaker 5: What do we do?

737
00:35:44,234 --> 00:35:44,393
Speaker 3: Oh?

738
00:35:44,433 --> 00:35:46,754
Speaker 8: The honor to you attending? The coordinators?

739
00:35:46,754 --> 00:35:49,073
Speaker 3: Well you missed my opening monologue. I have to watch

740
00:35:49,074 --> 00:35:49,674
Speaker 3: I watch them that.

741
00:35:49,794 --> 00:35:54,114
Speaker 8: I always rewatch them evaluate my perform performance.

742
00:35:54,473 --> 00:35:59,513
Speaker 4: So yeah, I've definitely noticed the media contingent is getting.

743
00:35:59,234 --> 00:36:02,033
Speaker 3: Smaller and smaller. Tighten it up, you.

744
00:36:01,953 --> 00:36:05,913
Speaker 4: Know, especially you know Wednesday is generally regular and then

745
00:36:06,034 --> 00:36:08,873
Speaker 4: Thursday Friday, get the quarterback tails off a little bit.

746
00:36:08,834 --> 00:36:12,194
Speaker 8: Quarterback and the coach and yeah tomorrow will be dead.

747
00:36:12,034 --> 00:36:14,234
Speaker 3: Had a game last night, so Celtics game.

748
00:36:14,114 --> 00:36:17,993
Speaker 8: To yeah, yeah, well yeah, poor Jeremy Springer. He goes

749
00:36:18,034 --> 00:36:20,354
Speaker 8: at one thirty on Fridays now, and it's like, carare

750
00:36:20,473 --> 00:36:23,393
Speaker 8: interest time of the NBA regular season game last night.

751
00:36:23,473 --> 00:36:28,194
Speaker 8: If I heard you weren't there to boost Steve Kerr, No,

752
00:36:29,354 --> 00:36:32,113
Speaker 8: but were you? You're just probably bulling him through your TV.

753
00:36:32,154 --> 00:36:34,393
Speaker 6: I would imagine I was so lame yesterday. I fell

754
00:36:34,433 --> 00:36:36,473
Speaker 6: sleep so early. I think I fell asleep in the

755
00:36:36,514 --> 00:36:39,354
Speaker 6: second quarter of that game. Too much pickleball, too much

756
00:36:39,393 --> 00:36:45,714
Speaker 6: pickleball military, kind of a pick a ball hater. Honestly,

757
00:36:45,754 --> 00:36:49,673
Speaker 6: I'm in Fred's camp like it's it's for like non

758
00:36:49,714 --> 00:36:51,714
Speaker 6: athletic people that don't want to play.

759
00:36:52,674 --> 00:36:53,794
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is.

760
00:36:54,714 --> 00:36:56,153
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's kind of the whole point.

761
00:36:56,473 --> 00:36:58,754
Speaker 3: I don't like the dumbing down of hate.

762
00:36:58,873 --> 00:37:01,913
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't like the dumbing down in the the

763
00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:04,393
Speaker 6: watering down of tennis like.

764
00:37:04,473 --> 00:37:07,434
Speaker 3: Tennis, if you can play tennis.

765
00:37:07,674 --> 00:37:10,433
Speaker 6: Scar loves this event, So I love this event. Scar

766
00:37:10,594 --> 00:37:14,794
Speaker 6: has shoes for pickleball. He has like a whole little outfall.

767
00:37:14,953 --> 00:37:17,473
Speaker 3: They've got the special playing.

768
00:37:17,154 --> 00:37:19,514
Speaker 6: With Ray Kwan McMillan. At first he was playing against

769
00:37:19,594 --> 00:37:21,594
Speaker 6: him and I was like, Oh, this that's intimidating. But

770
00:37:21,634 --> 00:37:23,154
Speaker 6: then now they're on the same team and I'm like

771
00:37:23,194 --> 00:37:26,714
Speaker 6: that's more intimidating. And I'm watching guns coach up and

772
00:37:26,834 --> 00:37:29,634
Speaker 6: teach them the rules pickball as they're playing, they're.

773
00:37:29,554 --> 00:37:34,153
Speaker 3: Letting me down. Dante probably makes his own paddle right right, right?

774
00:37:34,274 --> 00:37:37,553
Speaker 3: You should have you ever played? No, I've never played either.

775
00:37:38,674 --> 00:37:41,834
Speaker 3: I've played next, I've played tennis next to a pickleball court.

776
00:37:42,194 --> 00:37:44,234
Speaker 4: Now, were you one of those that gets really I mean,

777
00:37:44,274 --> 00:37:45,474
Speaker 4: obviously you don't like the sports.

778
00:37:45,514 --> 00:37:46,234
Speaker 3: I don't get annoyed.

779
00:37:46,274 --> 00:37:48,594
Speaker 4: Like if you lived next to a park, would you,

780
00:37:48,594 --> 00:37:51,913
Speaker 4: you know, would you call a nine one one?

781
00:37:53,754 --> 00:37:56,873
Speaker 3: There's a lady in the town that I live in

782
00:37:57,234 --> 00:38:00,274
Speaker 3: who she lives close to the beach, I guess or

783
00:38:00,274 --> 00:38:03,153
Speaker 3: something like that. But there's a pickle ball court next

784
00:38:03,154 --> 00:38:05,114
Speaker 3: to her house and she claims she's been trying to

785
00:38:05,154 --> 00:38:07,714
Speaker 3: sell her house for a year and she can't sell

786
00:38:07,754 --> 00:38:09,634
Speaker 3: it because of the pickleball.

787
00:38:08,994 --> 00:38:12,314
Speaker 6: That's I'm calling bs. Of course, there's no inventory on

788
00:38:12,393 --> 00:38:16,114
Speaker 6: Cape Cod, right that would get bought up before it

789
00:38:16,114 --> 00:38:16,594
Speaker 6: went tomorrow.

790
00:38:16,994 --> 00:38:20,954
Speaker 4: Well, she's probably asking too much, you know, well, considering

791
00:38:20,953 --> 00:38:24,554
Speaker 4: it's next to a pickleball right, I've never I've never played,

792
00:38:24,554 --> 00:38:27,194
Speaker 4: but I would think that would be something I could play.

793
00:38:27,194 --> 00:38:29,354
Speaker 3: A little bit like I couldn't like it because they drink.

794
00:38:29,473 --> 00:38:30,234
Speaker 3: I could never.

795
00:38:30,074 --> 00:38:32,194
Speaker 4: Play tennis because of my achilles.

796
00:38:32,554 --> 00:38:33,074
Speaker 3: That's one of the.

797
00:38:33,074 --> 00:38:34,954
Speaker 8: Sports, like tennis without the running.

798
00:38:34,994 --> 00:38:38,073
Speaker 3: That's one of the sports that they that doctor said specifically.

799
00:38:38,834 --> 00:38:43,314
Speaker 6: Although they're getting active, like that's great, that's wonderful, But

800
00:38:43,354 --> 00:38:45,953
Speaker 6: it's when you're taking existing tennis courts and making them

801
00:38:46,433 --> 00:38:47,074
Speaker 6: ball courts is.

802
00:38:47,034 --> 00:38:50,154
Speaker 3: When I have so I I'm not so. I'm not

803
00:38:50,234 --> 00:38:52,154
Speaker 3: mad about that. It's just the sword itself.

804
00:38:52,194 --> 00:38:54,154
Speaker 4: I look down.

805
00:38:54,234 --> 00:38:56,393
Speaker 6: I feel like it's just like private equity threw a

806
00:38:56,393 --> 00:38:57,314
Speaker 6: bunch of money into it.

807
00:38:57,354 --> 00:39:00,274
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden back in the day, you know,

808
00:39:00,473 --> 00:39:05,274
Speaker 3: I remember when racquetball started getting huged and in indoor courts.

809
00:39:05,314 --> 00:39:07,794
Speaker 3: They were taking away indoor tennis courts and turning them

810
00:39:07,794 --> 00:39:09,074
Speaker 3: into racquetball courts.

811
00:39:09,154 --> 00:39:10,834
Speaker 4: I totally remember the racquetball things.

812
00:39:10,913 --> 00:39:14,513
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a craze. And then outdoors paddle ball

813
00:39:14,594 --> 00:39:16,913
Speaker 3: they called it, which was a lot like pickle ball,

814
00:39:16,994 --> 00:39:21,633
Speaker 3: except it was in a cage. That started getting some popularity.

815
00:39:21,674 --> 00:39:25,433
Speaker 3: So there's always been offshoots that have come up and on.

816
00:39:25,514 --> 00:39:28,393
Speaker 3: I expect this one to fade out in about five years,

817
00:39:28,834 --> 00:39:32,113
Speaker 3: you know, but surprisingly you know you say, oh, it's

818
00:39:32,114 --> 00:39:34,354
Speaker 3: easier because you don't have to run around. I talked

819
00:39:34,354 --> 00:39:37,154
Speaker 3: to a doctor, said there's still a lot of pickleball injuries,

820
00:39:37,194 --> 00:39:39,993
Speaker 3: like you know, people in their seventies who forget their

821
00:39:40,034 --> 00:39:43,234
Speaker 3: seventy and they're pulling achilles and hamstrings.

822
00:39:44,393 --> 00:39:47,433
Speaker 6: It's a shorter court and there's it's less of a

823
00:39:47,514 --> 00:39:50,873
Speaker 6: distance to travel, so it's like you have to quickly exactly,

824
00:39:50,913 --> 00:39:53,594
Speaker 6: you have to move quicker, and there's more lateral movement

825
00:39:53,794 --> 00:39:54,633
Speaker 6: in pickleball.

826
00:39:55,274 --> 00:39:58,073
Speaker 3: There's certainly like I like I said, I look down

827
00:39:58,074 --> 00:40:00,354
Speaker 3: on the sport, but there's still a lot of hand eye,

828
00:40:00,754 --> 00:40:03,393
Speaker 3: you know, huge amount of hand eye and quickness that

829
00:40:03,473 --> 00:40:08,194
Speaker 3: goes into it. You know, like guys like John McEnroe

830
00:40:08,234 --> 00:40:12,073
Speaker 3: are playing like celebrity and he's really good at it

831
00:40:12,114 --> 00:40:14,714
Speaker 3: because he was a great net player when it came

832
00:40:14,754 --> 00:40:18,153
Speaker 3: to tennis and his hand eye, his you know, he's

833
00:40:18,194 --> 00:40:21,834
Speaker 3: so quick. It translated right to the pickle ball courl

834
00:40:21,873 --> 00:40:23,234
Speaker 3: I think, I can you have to.

835
00:40:23,274 --> 00:40:25,234
Speaker 4: I have to tell you, you're making me very nervous

836
00:40:25,314 --> 00:40:27,834
Speaker 4: with that open bottle of soda as you're moving your hand.

837
00:40:28,154 --> 00:40:32,154
Speaker 3: My hand christ either very very worried. All right, I'm

838
00:40:32,234 --> 00:40:33,754
Speaker 3: very very concerned mother.

839
00:40:34,114 --> 00:40:36,993
Speaker 4: But I yeah, the pickleball thing, you know, I don't.

840
00:40:37,154 --> 00:40:40,474
Speaker 3: I don't see it. No, I don't see tennis forever,

841
00:40:41,034 --> 00:40:42,794
Speaker 3: like the hand eye think. I think that would I

842
00:40:42,834 --> 00:40:45,234
Speaker 3: would excel at that. Yeah, man, but the quickness thing.

843
00:40:45,834 --> 00:40:49,354
Speaker 3: I'm even resisting the social doubles of tennis, like I

844
00:40:49,433 --> 00:40:52,634
Speaker 3: refuse to play doubles. You're purest No, No, it's not

845
00:40:52,674 --> 00:40:55,633
Speaker 3: that I'm a purist social. It's not giving in yet.

846
00:40:55,674 --> 00:40:59,114
Speaker 3: I'm still singles until I can't. You know, I'm not.

847
00:40:59,154 --> 00:41:00,153
Speaker 3: I got news for you.

848
00:41:00,754 --> 00:41:02,794
Speaker 4: I saw you play Indian San Diego.

849
00:41:02,554 --> 00:41:05,274
Speaker 3: Fifteen years ago. I beat him. Shouldn't be doing that anymore.

850
00:41:05,473 --> 00:41:06,073
Speaker 3: I beat him.

851
00:41:06,594 --> 00:41:08,834
Speaker 6: It's great for longevity. That's sport for longevity.

852
00:41:09,074 --> 00:41:10,634
Speaker 3: It is. It's a great golf.

853
00:41:11,074 --> 00:41:14,394
Speaker 6: No bracket sports are number one. There was a study

854
00:41:14,433 --> 00:41:15,354
Speaker 6: reason to play golf.

855
00:41:15,834 --> 00:41:17,714
Speaker 3: You can, but it doesn't make you healthy.

856
00:41:17,994 --> 00:41:19,314
Speaker 6: Yeah, for your longevity.

857
00:41:19,514 --> 00:41:22,033
Speaker 11: Yeah, Oh, I thought you mad to play long because

858
00:41:22,074 --> 00:41:28,914
Speaker 11: it's really like the course at Living I thought I misunderstood.

859
00:41:28,953 --> 00:41:31,994
Speaker 11: I thought by longevity you meant play You can.

860
00:41:32,114 --> 00:41:33,473
Speaker 3: Play a long Yeah.

861
00:41:33,473 --> 00:41:35,633
Speaker 6: Anyone can ride around in a car and get out.

862
00:41:35,674 --> 00:41:36,914
Speaker 3: You don't have to ride around.

863
00:41:37,714 --> 00:41:39,513
Speaker 6: I know. But people do because they're lazy.

864
00:41:39,834 --> 00:41:43,354
Speaker 3: People do and some people actually some courses require it

865
00:41:43,393 --> 00:41:46,394
Speaker 3: now to play generally and money.

866
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the private courses, not another courses.

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Speaker 3: I play all right. Uh eight five five PATS five

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Speaker 3: hundred is the ACE ticket hotline podcasts with an s

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Speaker 3: at patriots dot com. And by the way, you know,

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Speaker 3: I did a call yesterday for people to sign up

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Speaker 3: for the newsletter. All you have to do is email

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Speaker 3: podcasts at Patriots dot tons of emails last night. It

873
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Speaker 3: came in this morning to all these people at emails.

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Speaker 4: Make sure you keep your eye out because that's where

877
00:42:19,393 --> 00:42:21,913
Speaker 4: Alex runs fast and loose with the journalistic rules and

878
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Speaker 4: just makes crap up.

879
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Speaker 6: So you're watching, I know I'm not on the show. Well,

880
00:42:28,994 --> 00:42:31,433
Speaker 6: I've been listening to the shows every day to put

881
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Speaker 6: like the ones that I missed, put the newsletters together,

882
00:42:33,594 --> 00:42:35,274
Speaker 6: and all of a sudden, I'm just like patching these.

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Speaker 6: I guess it's not astray, but.

884
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Speaker 4: Oh no, they're not a straight so anything shot.

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Speaker 6: I thought I thought Paul was an all. I thought

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Speaker 6: we were close I thought I had a special relationship close.

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Speaker 3: Anything, anything without giving it away, anything good going.

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Speaker 6: Into this newsletter, there'll be an editor's note recent comments.

889
00:42:58,674 --> 00:43:03,393
Speaker 3: I like the allegation. That's what I'm looking for, conflict, conflict.

890
00:43:03,674 --> 00:43:07,114
Speaker 3: I'm just here to provide help. Yea great, All right,

891
00:43:07,154 --> 00:43:09,634
Speaker 3: let's get to the phones, Melvin's and Tennessee.

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Speaker 12: What's up Melvin going on?

893
00:43:12,473 --> 00:43:12,794
Speaker 3: Hey?

894
00:43:13,714 --> 00:43:17,513
Speaker 12: Hey, my question is too much about the Patriots, But

895
00:43:18,194 --> 00:43:21,873
Speaker 12: with uh, I guess other teams outside of the chief

896
00:43:22,194 --> 00:43:26,913
Speaker 12: I know, like what the writings in general, since that

897
00:43:27,074 --> 00:43:30,433
Speaker 12: they've been playing well, but sometimes court I don't know

898
00:43:30,473 --> 00:43:32,714
Speaker 12: if I get them my own there, but since last year,

899
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Speaker 12: I can't really always like, by the way, believe in them.

900
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Speaker 12: I think they're gonna possibly when they get in the playoffs,

901
00:43:39,674 --> 00:43:42,953
Speaker 12: have one of those you know they file apart seem like.

902
00:43:43,114 --> 00:43:46,834
Speaker 12: But any team that you all have outside of the

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Speaker 12: Chiefs that you all feel confident that this could be

904
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Speaker 12: the year that they finally get up to hunt well,

905
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Speaker 12: you know, represent the aft.

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Speaker 4: For the particularly Yeah, I know I had Baltimore and Buffalo.

907
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Baltimore and Buffalo, but you know, Paul mentioned like

908
00:44:00,594 --> 00:44:03,714
Speaker 3: Detroit is probably right now, could be the best team

909
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Speaker 3: in the NFL, and I think all these other teams,

910
00:44:05,674 --> 00:44:09,873
Speaker 3: even Kansas City being undefeated in Baltimore, they have flaws.

911
00:44:10,274 --> 00:44:12,714
Speaker 3: You know. Kansas City's offense hasn't looked like it's been

912
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Speaker 3: in the in the past, and then Baltimore's defense. But

913
00:44:16,913 --> 00:44:19,634
Speaker 3: seems like Detroit is playing the best all around football

914
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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 4: Ye know they I think they're playing the best. I

916
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Speaker 4: would have worries about their defense long term, Like I

917
00:44:26,274 --> 00:44:27,714
Speaker 4: don't think their defense is very good.

918
00:44:27,754 --> 00:44:28,834
Speaker 3: Now it's played pretty well.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, there's what they just added, uh Zidarius right, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Really good move to replace Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think if there's a one team that could

922
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Speaker 3: in the AFC that can beat the Chiefs, it's gonna

923
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Speaker 3: be Buffalo. I think I like Buffalo's chances.

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Speaker 4: I like Buffalo's chances better because I think that they've

925
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Speaker 4: played very well against Kansas City. I know they've lost

926
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs, but they played more like themselves again

927
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Speaker 4: and they beat them in the regular season. They've played Baltimore,

928
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Speaker 4: seems like they have a mental block with Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: They don't they don't beat them regular season. They don't

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Speaker 4: beat that chance week one, you know, so I think

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Speaker 4: if you're asking me what I think the best team

932
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Speaker 4: is Melvin in the AFC, I think it's Baltimore. I

933
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Speaker 4: think they have the best talent in the AFC. We'll

934
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Speaker 4: see if they can get over the hump.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. I mean I wouldn't sleep on Sincy too either.

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Speaker 8: I think they're just team you don't really want to

937
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Speaker 8: play in the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just don't think they're going to get there.

939
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Speaker 8: I don't think they get to the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: I mean they could because obviously that's you know, the

941
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Speaker 4: sixth and seventh, those those last it's going to be

942
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Speaker 4: a nine and eight team probably, you know, you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to.

944
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Speaker 3: Have to Well, they got a big game this week. Yeah,

945
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Speaker 3: tonight tonight, tonight tonight. Todd's in North Carolina. What's up, Todd?

946
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Speaker 13: Hey guys, Hi, how are you doing?

947
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Speaker 7: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Todd Man.

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Speaker 13: So, I talked with John Rook yesterday on his show,

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Speaker 13: and he said he's known a VP for all a

951
00:45:52,794 --> 00:45:55,914
Speaker 13: VP's sports plays, So he followed him in high school,

952
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Speaker 13: he was reporting on him and through college and all

953
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Speaker 13: the rest of it. He said he feels that a

954
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Speaker 13: VP is being held back, that he's not being allowed

955
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Speaker 13: to use his knowledge because he said he's brilliant. He

956
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Speaker 13: says he talked Tom, he's known him, he's a friend,

957
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Speaker 13: and the guy can just you know, know sports, you know,

958
00:46:15,393 --> 00:46:15,994
Speaker 13: it's football.

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Speaker 3: Did he cite any evidence for your take on there, Well,

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Speaker 3: that's before my take. Did John Rook cite any evidence

961
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Speaker 3: for why he thinks he's being held back?

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Speaker 13: Well, he seemed to think that he wasn't being allowed

963
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Speaker 13: to be creative. And he said that Alex dun Pelt

964
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Speaker 13: is very creative and has very you know, he can

965
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Speaker 13: do schemes, he's got really great ideas and that you know,

966
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Speaker 13: falling throughout his career. He talked to him, and he's

967
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Speaker 13: known him for such a long time, and he sees

968
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Speaker 13: that he's just not being allowed to, you know, give

969
00:46:47,514 --> 00:46:50,794
Speaker 13: the complexity or the creativity to the to the offense.

970
00:46:50,834 --> 00:46:53,913
Speaker 13: And I'm I was kind of flabbergasted when he said

971
00:46:53,953 --> 00:46:57,553
Speaker 13: that to me, and I didn't I couldn't see it.

972
00:46:57,834 --> 00:47:00,193
Speaker 13: But I don't know enough. I really don't know enough

973
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Speaker 13: about coaching and that whole ideology of building an offense

974
00:47:03,834 --> 00:47:06,194
Speaker 13: to be able to you know, prose that that. So

975
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Speaker 13: I thought, maybe if you guys Eanly be here can

976
00:47:09,194 --> 00:47:10,314
Speaker 13: help with this cussion a little bit.

977
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Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. I mean, I mean, you

978
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Speaker 3: say that he's a close friend of his, So again,

979
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Speaker 3: there's a filter there that he's looking through. The Other

980
00:47:18,194 --> 00:47:20,834
Speaker 3: thing is that would make me dubious about it is

981
00:47:21,034 --> 00:47:22,513
Speaker 3: AVP has been around for quite a.

982
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Speaker 4: While and no one's ever given him that kind of lad.

983
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Speaker 3: Of exactly well, not not only that kind of latitude,

984
00:47:27,514 --> 00:47:30,993
Speaker 3: but he hasn't earned that type of uh, you know,

985
00:47:31,114 --> 00:47:32,994
Speaker 3: reputation as being a creative offense.

986
00:47:33,074 --> 00:47:35,913
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is he's been in coaching for

987
00:47:35,953 --> 00:47:38,993
Speaker 4: twenty years, right, and no one's ever even allowed him

988
00:47:38,994 --> 00:47:41,953
Speaker 4: to call plays, let alone design and offense. So is

989
00:47:42,074 --> 00:47:45,234
Speaker 4: everybody just sort of missing the boat on Alex van Pelt?

990
00:47:45,913 --> 00:47:46,594
Speaker 3: Right? Maybe?

991
00:47:46,594 --> 00:47:49,354
Speaker 4: And I'm not telling you that, Todd. I have no idea.

992
00:47:49,433 --> 00:47:52,433
Speaker 3: I have no idea. They could be yeah, yeah, and I.

993
00:47:52,393 --> 00:47:55,473
Speaker 4: Have John might John might be one thousand percent right,

994
00:47:55,514 --> 00:47:58,314
Speaker 4: I have no idea. I'm just saying. So Green Bay

995
00:47:58,354 --> 00:48:01,274
Speaker 4: didn't want him to advise the offense. Thanks, thanks, Cleveland

996
00:48:01,274 --> 00:48:03,393
Speaker 4: didn't want him to since I didn't want him to.

997
00:48:04,314 --> 00:48:11,114
Speaker 4: But everybody's just sort of holding him back to Bendrends.

998
00:48:09,314 --> 00:48:12,754
Speaker 3: Yeah, like he came in. He came into this job

999
00:48:12,794 --> 00:48:15,674
Speaker 3: with kind of the reputation of being an understudy all

1000
00:48:15,714 --> 00:48:17,234
Speaker 3: his all his life.

1001
00:48:17,194 --> 00:48:20,634
Speaker 4: Now drew Bledsoe is another guy who speaks ridiculously highly

1002
00:48:20,674 --> 00:48:24,473
Speaker 4: of Alex van Pelt. They were teammates in Buffalo. He

1003
00:48:24,913 --> 00:48:26,873
Speaker 4: thinks he's going to do a really, really good job.

1004
00:48:27,234 --> 00:48:30,954
Speaker 4: But these guys know one like, I mean, Fred started

1005
00:48:30,953 --> 00:48:32,634
Speaker 4: off before you got him Mike out, you know, so

1006
00:48:32,674 --> 00:48:35,474
Speaker 4: you don't have to go back and listen to appreciate

1007
00:48:35,714 --> 00:48:39,993
Speaker 4: Fred was Fred sort of likes listening to Alex man

1008
00:48:39,994 --> 00:48:42,553
Speaker 4: Pell thinks he presents well, and I would agree. I

1009
00:48:42,594 --> 00:48:45,113
Speaker 4: think every week I think he comes across very well.

1010
00:48:45,873 --> 00:48:48,873
Speaker 4: So these are people that like him and are impressed

1011
00:48:48,873 --> 00:48:51,873
Speaker 4: by him. So, like that doesn't necessarily mean he's great, yeah,

1012
00:48:52,154 --> 00:48:54,033
Speaker 4: just because you know he has really I.

1013
00:48:54,714 --> 00:48:58,394
Speaker 3: Talked to one person who thought that over the years

1014
00:48:58,433 --> 00:49:01,554
Speaker 3: he's been a little bit discriminated against because of the

1015
00:49:01,594 --> 00:49:05,033
Speaker 3: way he looks, he's a little heavier. But I don't

1016
00:49:05,074 --> 00:49:06,754
Speaker 3: see that. A lot of facts, there's been a lot

1017
00:49:06,794 --> 00:49:10,033
Speaker 3: of you know, Andy Reid and Mike holm Grin and

1018
00:49:10,393 --> 00:49:13,114
Speaker 3: Charlie Weiss. You know, I don't see Mike McCarthy, but

1019
00:49:13,194 --> 00:49:15,553
Speaker 3: somebody actually did say that. I'm not making it up.

1020
00:49:15,594 --> 00:49:18,074
Speaker 6: I mean, Mike McDaniel is like one hundred and fifty pounds.

1021
00:49:18,314 --> 00:49:21,953
Speaker 8: I think I go that way.

1022
00:49:21,994 --> 00:49:25,314
Speaker 6: You know, I'd rather I can put.

1023
00:49:27,393 --> 00:49:29,234
Speaker 3: If you're having and if you can't wear tight pants,

1024
00:49:29,314 --> 00:49:31,234
Speaker 3: then it's got no use for you, right.

1025
00:49:31,913 --> 00:49:33,794
Speaker 8: You got to be skinny to wear tight pants, not

1026
00:49:33,873 --> 00:49:35,873
Speaker 8: you're too big and the pants are naturally tight. It's

1027
00:49:36,034 --> 00:49:36,953
Speaker 8: a little difference there.

1028
00:49:37,314 --> 00:49:39,754
Speaker 3: Marquees in Philadelphia. What's up, Marquis?

1029
00:49:41,393 --> 00:49:41,633
Speaker 7: Hey?

1030
00:49:41,634 --> 00:49:45,553
Speaker 14: It was going on Big Watcher. I love you guys, man,

1031
00:49:45,594 --> 00:49:49,234
Speaker 14: I asked your questions. So yesterday someone talked about how

1032
00:49:49,234 --> 00:49:51,513
Speaker 14: we were doing seven in comparison to you yesterday, I

1033
00:49:51,634 --> 00:49:54,473
Speaker 14: mean the last year, and I talked about this my

1034
00:49:54,554 --> 00:49:57,193
Speaker 14: podcast as well, and I think this two and seven

1035
00:49:57,274 --> 00:50:00,553
Speaker 14: is a lot better because, for one, we actually have

1036
00:50:00,554 --> 00:50:03,834
Speaker 14: a quarterback. We look forward to watching Black Ship. We

1037
00:50:03,873 --> 00:50:07,874
Speaker 14: weren't very watchable and years before not very watchable, honestly,

1038
00:50:08,554 --> 00:50:10,834
Speaker 14: so I think this year is much better. We have

1039
00:50:10,873 --> 00:50:12,314
Speaker 14: something to look forward to. And then as one of

1040
00:50:12,473 --> 00:50:15,113
Speaker 14: the players that we do have since the deadline set,

1041
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Speaker 14: I think their job is now just to show their

1042
00:50:18,354 --> 00:50:24,433
Speaker 14: best foot And also my second question is, well, also,

1043
00:50:24,594 --> 00:50:26,593
Speaker 14: how do you pull? That's the big question. And then

1044
00:50:26,634 --> 00:50:30,514
Speaker 14: my second question is this roster that we talk about

1045
00:50:30,514 --> 00:50:32,433
Speaker 14: how bad it is. It's really bad like what we

1046
00:50:32,514 --> 00:50:35,474
Speaker 14: see week the week, but on paper, and it's healthy.

1047
00:50:35,554 --> 00:50:38,433
Speaker 14: I think this team could possibly be like four and three.

1048
00:50:38,473 --> 00:50:41,234
Speaker 14: And I think that if we were healthy, we wouldn't

1049
00:50:41,274 --> 00:50:43,513
Speaker 14: be talking as bad about the team Drake May or

1050
00:50:43,554 --> 00:50:47,873
Speaker 14: the receivers if we had to help around them. Tatty

1051
00:50:47,913 --> 00:50:48,834
Speaker 14: got put about that blow.

1052
00:50:49,473 --> 00:50:51,034
Speaker 3: Okay, thanks Mikey.

1053
00:50:51,114 --> 00:50:55,434
Speaker 4: So I would ask you know, in that scenario, is everybody.

1054
00:50:54,994 --> 00:50:55,754
Speaker 3: Else healthy too?

1055
00:50:57,194 --> 00:50:57,594
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1056
00:50:57,794 --> 00:51:00,274
Speaker 4: Like, so did you play Tua and not Tyler Huntley?

1057
00:51:02,274 --> 00:51:02,754
Speaker 7: Like that?

1058
00:51:03,074 --> 00:51:05,314
Speaker 4: All that stuff matters, like because that was a game

1059
00:51:05,314 --> 00:51:08,433
Speaker 4: that you could have won. But they averaged twenty seven

1060
00:51:08,514 --> 00:51:12,554
Speaker 4: points a game when Tua plays like not the fifteen

1061
00:51:12,634 --> 00:51:15,234
Speaker 4: that they scored the day that they played you without him.

1062
00:51:15,634 --> 00:51:19,114
Speaker 4: So I would say that the premise of what Marquise

1063
00:51:19,194 --> 00:51:22,154
Speaker 4: said I would agree with because of Drake May, he

1064
00:51:22,274 --> 00:51:24,674
Speaker 4: has been more exciting. Yes, the bottom lineer is the

1065
00:51:24,674 --> 00:51:27,513
Speaker 4: offense isn't better. The offense what isn't better than it

1066
00:51:27,594 --> 00:51:29,913
Speaker 4: was with Brissett, And it isn't better than it was

1067
00:51:29,994 --> 00:51:30,433
Speaker 4: last year.

1068
00:51:30,514 --> 00:51:31,354
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's bad.

1069
00:51:32,114 --> 00:51:35,234
Speaker 4: But I like watching Drake may play more than mac Jones.

1070
00:51:34,953 --> 00:51:37,633
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because last year it got to the point that

1071
00:51:38,154 --> 00:51:40,674
Speaker 3: you just knew they weren't going to have any success

1072
00:51:40,714 --> 00:51:44,153
Speaker 3: on offense. And at least I guess it's a mental thing.

1073
00:51:44,433 --> 00:51:46,274
Speaker 4: But but I don't know what I'm going to get

1074
00:51:46,274 --> 00:51:47,593
Speaker 4: because this is right?

1075
00:51:48,034 --> 00:51:51,154
Speaker 3: So what so far right anymore? Yeah, but he's more

1076
00:51:51,194 --> 00:51:57,073
Speaker 3: exciting to watch, you know, he's capable of more's he's

1077
00:51:57,074 --> 00:52:00,033
Speaker 3: a dual threat, so he has our interest for now

1078
00:52:00,393 --> 00:52:02,634
Speaker 3: because we want to see what will happen. So I

1079
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Speaker 3: get it all right, Let's take a break when we

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Speaker 17: So as always, you know, Wind's a draw on Wednesdays

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00:53:49,514 --> 00:53:51,474
Speaker 17: is all about changing the page. You know, my message

1113
00:53:51,514 --> 00:53:54,354
Speaker 17: to the team today is really just about a sense

1114
00:53:54,354 --> 00:53:56,673
Speaker 17: of urgency, a sense of urgency and everything that we do.

1115
00:53:57,314 --> 00:54:00,113
Speaker 17: We have a huge test coming up, another road game,

1116
00:54:00,154 --> 00:54:03,234
Speaker 17: going out to Chicago. It's always exciting, at least for

1117
00:54:03,314 --> 00:54:05,714
Speaker 17: me personally to go to a stadium, you know, like

1118
00:54:05,873 --> 00:54:08,074
Speaker 17: our team, you know, play against a team like Chicago

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00:54:08,154 --> 00:54:10,393
Speaker 17: because of the history and the great players that have

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00:54:10,473 --> 00:54:13,074
Speaker 17: come way before me or before the guys in the

1121
00:54:13,114 --> 00:54:16,953
Speaker 17: locker room, you know, offensively, for these guys, you know,

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00:54:17,034 --> 00:54:19,433
Speaker 17: let's start with the quarterback. He's a He's a very

1123
00:54:19,473 --> 00:54:22,114
Speaker 17: good player. Like this guy is able to extend plays.

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00:54:22,114 --> 00:54:25,234
Speaker 17: He's very athletic. You know, I watch him a little bit,

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Speaker 17: you know, coming out and then you know, really just

1126
00:54:28,834 --> 00:54:29,794
Speaker 17: diving into the tape.

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00:54:29,794 --> 00:54:32,034
Speaker 18: This guy is very athletic. He's elusive.

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00:54:32,034 --> 00:54:34,113
Speaker 17: He has great vision in the pocket, and I would

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00:54:34,154 --> 00:54:37,713
Speaker 17: say he scrambles more to make mcthrows, not as much

1130
00:54:38,074 --> 00:54:39,594
Speaker 17: on the other side. You know, you go against some

1131
00:54:39,674 --> 00:54:42,354
Speaker 17: quarterbacks in there, they'll take off and get down the field.

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00:54:42,433 --> 00:54:45,194
Speaker 17: Not saying that he doesn't do that, but he definitely

1133
00:54:45,194 --> 00:54:47,314
Speaker 17: does a good job keeping his eyes down the field

1134
00:54:47,554 --> 00:54:50,714
Speaker 17: and making those throws. Talking about you know, just some

1135
00:54:50,754 --> 00:54:53,794
Speaker 17: of their skill positions. Skill positions they have, you know,

1136
00:54:53,873 --> 00:54:58,354
Speaker 17: receivers that are very good players. It's a mix, a

1137
00:54:58,393 --> 00:55:00,513
Speaker 17: combination of young and old. I would say on the team,

1138
00:55:00,514 --> 00:55:03,034
Speaker 17: you got a guy like a Dunes, you know, who's

1139
00:55:03,354 --> 00:55:05,873
Speaker 17: a rookie. A lot of us liked him coming out.

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00:55:06,194 --> 00:55:08,554
Speaker 17: And then you also have Mercedes Lewis who's still going.

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00:55:09,114 --> 00:55:11,113
Speaker 17: You know, this is like you're nineteen for a guy

1142
00:55:11,154 --> 00:55:12,754
Speaker 17: like that. So when you talk about a mix of

1143
00:55:13,074 --> 00:55:17,234
Speaker 17: older young players, there are definitely two extremes. And even

1144
00:55:17,234 --> 00:55:19,513
Speaker 17: talking about Mercedes, he's still doing a good job in

1145
00:55:19,554 --> 00:55:21,754
Speaker 17: his role and his role right now is to go

1146
00:55:21,794 --> 00:55:23,274
Speaker 17: out there and move bodies, and he does a good

1147
00:55:23,314 --> 00:55:26,553
Speaker 17: job there. As far as the back concerned, you know,

1148
00:55:26,714 --> 00:55:28,874
Speaker 17: explosive all had to be at the point of attack,

1149
00:55:28,953 --> 00:55:31,714
Speaker 17: and you know it starts upfront with us. As far

1150
00:55:31,794 --> 00:55:36,154
Speaker 17: as the one game is concerned defensively, you know, obviously

1151
00:55:36,234 --> 00:55:39,473
Speaker 17: they put Billings on ir which is a loss for them.

1152
00:55:39,953 --> 00:55:42,154
Speaker 17: And saying that, they definitely still have a lot of

1153
00:55:42,154 --> 00:55:44,114
Speaker 17: players on the field that have played a lot of football.

1154
00:55:44,194 --> 00:55:46,354
Speaker 17: And I've played at a high level for an extended

1155
00:55:46,354 --> 00:55:50,034
Speaker 17: period of time. Special teams good in all the phases.

1156
00:55:50,393 --> 00:55:52,834
Speaker 17: It's going to be a challenge for us, our special

1157
00:55:52,834 --> 00:55:54,993
Speaker 17: teams unit, I should say, an opportunity for them to

1158
00:55:54,994 --> 00:55:57,354
Speaker 17: go out there and really you know, strength some games

1159
00:55:57,354 --> 00:55:59,553
Speaker 17: together as far as special teams play is concerned. And

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00:56:00,473 --> 00:56:03,674
Speaker 17: look forward to those guys preparing today today full padded practice.

1161
00:56:03,714 --> 00:56:05,714
Speaker 17: We're gonna go out there and we're gonna you know,

1162
00:56:05,994 --> 00:56:08,274
Speaker 17: we talked about the sense of urgency this morning and

1163
00:56:08,314 --> 00:56:10,514
Speaker 17: really going out there and competing and hopefully that carries

1164
00:56:10,554 --> 00:56:11,153
Speaker 17: over to the game.

1165
00:56:12,714 --> 00:56:16,274
Speaker 10: Rod, you guys are obviously very involved in the quarterback

1166
00:56:16,714 --> 00:56:20,034
Speaker 10: draft market this past spring. Curious how much like actual

1167
00:56:20,354 --> 00:56:22,514
Speaker 10: like one on one contact you have with Caleb Williams

1168
00:56:22,554 --> 00:56:23,393
Speaker 10: during that process.

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Speaker 17: A lot for me personally, Uh, you know, not much

1170
00:56:27,714 --> 00:56:30,033
Speaker 17: for me, you know, I think it was pretty clear

1171
00:56:30,034 --> 00:56:32,473
Speaker 17: cut that he was going to be the first pick overall. Now,

1172
00:56:32,634 --> 00:56:34,633
Speaker 17: not speaking for the scouting department, I know they've done

1173
00:56:34,674 --> 00:56:38,154
Speaker 17: all their research and they had multiple interactions with Caleb

1174
00:56:39,514 --> 00:56:40,714
Speaker 17: on your team.

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00:56:40,834 --> 00:56:43,234
Speaker 3: Any chance to see far.

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Speaker 14: More today at practice is very much Kayden Wallace.

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Speaker 18: The three of those they won't be a practice today.

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Speaker 4: Drug will you consider making changes on your coaching staff

1179
00:56:53,473 --> 00:56:55,074
Speaker 4: or as a situation where you'd like to see this

1180
00:56:55,114 --> 00:56:56,433
Speaker 4: group stick together through the post.

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Speaker 17: I would say, look, we all have to get better,

1182
00:56:58,433 --> 00:57:00,554
Speaker 17: and it starts, you know, with me, and it starts

1183
00:57:00,594 --> 00:57:03,433
Speaker 17: with the coaches and that's part of uh, that's part

1184
00:57:03,473 --> 00:57:05,033
Speaker 17: of coming together as a staff. So we all have

1185
00:57:05,074 --> 00:57:07,234
Speaker 17: to we all have to get better. We all want

1186
00:57:07,234 --> 00:57:08,834
Speaker 17: to win games, and we need to win games now.

1187
00:57:08,873 --> 00:57:11,154
Speaker 17: And I think you know, the sense of urgency message

1188
00:57:11,594 --> 00:57:12,674
Speaker 17: wasn't just for the players.

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00:57:12,674 --> 00:57:13,754
Speaker 18: It's also for the coaches.

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00:57:13,794 --> 00:57:16,354
Speaker 17: And you know, nothing in this in this world, no

1191
00:57:16,354 --> 00:57:18,874
Speaker 17: matter who you are, myself included, is guaranteed.

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00:57:19,314 --> 00:57:20,794
Speaker 7: To far more and strange.

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Speaker 19: The fact that they haven't another deals all season really

1194
00:57:23,834 --> 00:57:26,154
Speaker 19: so it's it's ring and summer. Is their value in

1195
00:57:26,234 --> 00:57:28,954
Speaker 19: them coming back is maybe forward the indor different tact

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00:57:28,954 --> 00:57:31,754
Speaker 19: if this is week tend or would you welcome them

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00:57:31,754 --> 00:57:32,554
Speaker 19: back pretty much.

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00:57:32,434 --> 00:57:35,314
Speaker 17: Any passage, Yeah, we would always welcome them back. And again,

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Speaker 17: like whether we're talking about free agency or trade deadline

1200
00:57:38,034 --> 00:57:39,954
Speaker 17: or anything, we're always trying to improve as a team

1201
00:57:39,954 --> 00:57:43,034
Speaker 17: and sometimes they are under your own roof tree.

1202
00:57:43,154 --> 00:57:48,354
Speaker 1: Right line comes and goes, yesterday, that comes and goes,

1203
00:57:48,514 --> 00:57:49,194
Speaker 1: nothing happens.

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00:57:49,474 --> 00:57:52,274
Speaker 19: Did you feel like you guys were close to adding

1205
00:57:52,394 --> 00:57:55,594
Speaker 19: good players just mentioned or was there you know, is

1206
00:57:55,634 --> 00:57:56,714
Speaker 19: there anything?

1207
00:57:56,914 --> 00:57:57,153
Speaker 7: Yeah?

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00:57:57,474 --> 00:57:59,194
Speaker 17: You know the one thing about the trade deadline. I

1209
00:57:59,194 --> 00:58:01,434
Speaker 17: talked about this on Monday, at least in the NFL.

1210
00:58:01,754 --> 00:58:03,874
Speaker 17: You know, everyone wants to build it up like it's

1211
00:58:03,874 --> 00:58:05,634
Speaker 17: baseball or basketball or something like that.

1212
00:58:05,674 --> 00:58:09,594
Speaker 18: It's not. Look, we we do our research.

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00:58:09,274 --> 00:58:11,314
Speaker 17: On everything that's available, and I would say Elliott and

1214
00:58:11,314 --> 00:58:14,834
Speaker 17: his staff have you know, contacted you know, multiple teams,

1215
00:58:14,834 --> 00:58:17,073
Speaker 17: and multiple teams have contacted us, just like every other

1216
00:58:17,114 --> 00:58:18,154
Speaker 17: team in the league.

1217
00:58:18,274 --> 00:58:20,034
Speaker 13: What do you think a deal didn't get doesn't.

1218
00:58:21,114 --> 00:58:21,633
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

1219
00:58:22,914 --> 00:58:26,434
Speaker 18: I mean, Look, for us, it's about it's about value, it's.

1220
00:58:26,274 --> 00:58:29,874
Speaker 17: About you know, thinking about the president and also trying

1221
00:58:29,874 --> 00:58:31,354
Speaker 17: to get better in the future.

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00:58:31,634 --> 00:58:31,954
Speaker 13: Thank you?

1223
00:58:32,114 --> 00:58:34,073
Speaker 4: Or do you feel compelled to talk to the team

1224
00:58:34,114 --> 00:58:36,474
Speaker 4: about the election and how do you sort of navigate that.

1225
00:58:37,194 --> 00:58:39,754
Speaker 17: Look for us, it was all about Chicago. What I

1226
00:58:39,794 --> 00:58:41,994
Speaker 17: told them this morning is that you know, I respect

1227
00:58:42,074 --> 00:58:44,154
Speaker 17: democracy and we have to respect the office.

1228
00:58:44,234 --> 00:58:45,394
Speaker 18: And you know people.

1229
00:58:45,154 --> 00:58:47,994
Speaker 17: Went out there and voted, and there's a reason that

1230
00:58:48,034 --> 00:58:49,954
Speaker 17: we have secret ballots. You don't have to talk about it.

1231
00:58:49,994 --> 00:58:52,314
Speaker 17: I said the three things, the three things that kind

1232
00:58:52,354 --> 00:58:56,633
Speaker 17: of you know, the three things that in a locker room.

1233
00:58:56,674 --> 00:58:57,194
Speaker 18: You have to be.

1234
00:58:57,194 --> 00:59:02,154
Speaker 17: Careful about is talking about politics, talking about religion, and

1235
00:59:02,194 --> 00:59:04,113
Speaker 17: back in my day it was talking about Michael Jordan

1236
00:59:04,234 --> 00:59:07,354
Speaker 17: versus anybody else. Now with these guys, is Lebron versus

1237
00:59:07,394 --> 00:59:09,554
Speaker 17: anyone else? But those are the three things that always

1238
00:59:09,554 --> 00:59:10,714
Speaker 17: turned the hot topics.

1239
00:59:11,714 --> 00:59:16,194
Speaker 9: With no movement at the deadline, you see catalog, yam

1240
00:59:16,314 --> 00:59:22,153
Speaker 9: a wide receiver. Like seven players on the roster, how

1241
00:59:22,714 --> 00:59:25,874
Speaker 9: do you expect other moves and how are you going

1242
00:59:25,954 --> 00:59:29,554
Speaker 9: to try and incorporate you know, those guys getting plenty

1243
00:59:29,594 --> 00:59:32,234
Speaker 9: of time, particularly the rookies.

1244
00:59:32,554 --> 00:59:33,834
Speaker 17: I think you hit it on the head like they're

1245
00:59:33,874 --> 00:59:36,154
Speaker 17: on the roster right now and they're gonna go out

1246
00:59:36,194 --> 00:59:38,434
Speaker 17: there and practice today. And at the same time, you

1247
00:59:38,434 --> 00:59:40,994
Speaker 17: know they'll have their opportunities, and it's not about the

1248
00:59:41,034 --> 00:59:43,673
Speaker 17: amount of opportunities they have. It's about, you know, going

1249
00:59:43,714 --> 00:59:45,954
Speaker 17: out there and taking full advantage of those opportunities.

1250
00:59:46,114 --> 00:59:47,354
Speaker 9: Seeking the wide receivers.

1251
00:59:47,354 --> 00:59:49,914
Speaker 5: I asked for a lot of about jobs for and

1252
00:59:49,994 --> 00:59:51,194
Speaker 5: that can celebration.

1253
00:59:50,794 --> 00:59:51,434
Speaker 8: On the sidelines.

1254
00:59:51,754 --> 00:59:53,234
Speaker 3: What more do you need to see from him?

1255
00:59:54,954 --> 00:59:57,394
Speaker 9: Jos On One more do you have to see from him?

1256
00:59:57,834 --> 01:00:01,113
Speaker 9: I'll say, like dry Cote's a journey week that these

1257
01:00:01,714 --> 01:00:02,714
Speaker 9: increased opportunities.

1258
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Speaker 17: What he gets, well, he's been in this league for

1259
01:00:04,354 --> 01:00:06,954
Speaker 17: a long time and he's a professional and he understands, uh,

1260
01:00:07,794 --> 01:00:09,514
Speaker 17: you know, the active and active part of it. And

1261
01:00:09,594 --> 01:00:11,554
Speaker 17: I would say, you know, he just needs to continue

1262
01:00:11,594 --> 01:00:12,954
Speaker 17: to do what he's doing, and that's to go out

1263
01:00:12,954 --> 01:00:14,394
Speaker 17: there and practice hard and be a good teammate.

1264
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Speaker 10: So you expect to continue to carry seven wide receivers on.

1265
01:00:17,514 --> 01:00:18,153
Speaker 14: The active roster.

1266
01:00:18,794 --> 01:00:20,674
Speaker 17: Look, these these guys are on the roster right now.

1267
01:00:21,594 --> 01:00:24,554
Speaker 17: We're always again looking looking to get better and that

1268
01:00:24,714 --> 01:00:27,354
Speaker 17: may be addition through subtraction and maybe.

1269
01:00:27,154 --> 01:00:29,514
Speaker 18: I don't know what group is it is, but we're

1270
01:00:29,514 --> 01:00:30,354
Speaker 18: always looking to get better.

1271
01:00:30,794 --> 01:00:33,154
Speaker 19: What do you find yourself doing better now midway through

1272
01:00:33,194 --> 01:00:35,714
Speaker 19: this season as a head coach that you were doing

1273
01:00:35,914 --> 01:00:36,474
Speaker 19: weeks one.

1274
01:00:36,434 --> 01:00:38,674
Speaker 17: Two and three two, I would say, just you know,

1275
01:00:38,794 --> 01:00:42,034
Speaker 17: for myself personally, it's just the communication and going through

1276
01:00:43,314 --> 01:00:46,113
Speaker 17: you know, situational football during the games. Those are things

1277
01:00:46,154 --> 01:00:49,354
Speaker 17: that you have to continue to experience. Look and once again,

1278
01:00:49,954 --> 01:00:51,954
Speaker 17: you know, everyone may not like the decision, but at

1279
01:00:51,954 --> 01:00:54,154
Speaker 17: the same time, someone has to make it and that's me.

1280
01:00:54,834 --> 01:00:55,034
Speaker 3: Coach.

1281
01:00:55,074 --> 01:00:57,394
Speaker 14: You mentioned the importance of you know, making progress off

1282
01:00:57,514 --> 01:00:59,874
Speaker 14: the season for your young players piercing workie class.

1283
01:00:59,914 --> 01:01:01,834
Speaker 3: Obviously different cases for each but how do you feel

1284
01:01:01,874 --> 01:01:02,554
Speaker 3: that they progress so.

1285
01:01:02,594 --> 01:01:03,154
Speaker 10: Far this season?

1286
01:01:03,314 --> 01:01:04,794
Speaker 17: Well, if these guys are doing what they need to

1287
01:01:04,874 --> 01:01:08,714
Speaker 17: do and they all as individuals will progress at you know,

1288
01:01:08,834 --> 01:01:11,354
Speaker 17: different speeds. I would also say, you know, I think

1289
01:01:11,554 --> 01:01:14,114
Speaker 17: you know our quarterback. I know everyone's excited about our quarterback,

1290
01:01:14,154 --> 01:01:16,074
Speaker 17: and he is. He's a good player for us, and

1291
01:01:16,194 --> 01:01:19,514
Speaker 17: he will continue to develop going forward, but he understands

1292
01:01:19,514 --> 01:01:21,074
Speaker 17: there are a lot of things to work on for

1293
01:01:21,194 --> 01:01:23,794
Speaker 17: himself personally as well. And you know, you see, you

1294
01:01:23,834 --> 01:01:25,874
Speaker 17: know some of the other guys and there at different

1295
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Speaker 17: points in there in their rookie year. The rookie, your

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Speaker 17: rookie year. No matter what position you play, it's it's

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Speaker 17: always tough. And again those guys, it's about getting better

1298
01:01:33,874 --> 01:01:36,194
Speaker 17: every single day, and you know you're gonna deal with

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Speaker 17: different situations every single day, whether you're talking on the

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01:01:39,234 --> 01:01:40,073
Speaker 17: field or off the field.

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Speaker 3: Those guys that great history. She's my lines are way

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Speaker 3: off this week. Yeah, I just I don't. I don't

1303
01:01:54,394 --> 01:01:56,074
Speaker 3: believe in do you get your lines from Jimmy, the

1304
01:01:56,114 --> 01:01:57,074
Speaker 3: barbers and the street.

1305
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Speaker 5: It's week to to spread and I just I just

1306
01:01:59,554 --> 01:02:03,034
Speaker 5: go to DraftKings Verys had the same lines as Paul.

1307
01:02:03,274 --> 01:02:08,113
Speaker 3: So we go to draft. No, that's you're listening draft.

1308
01:02:08,554 --> 01:02:10,754
Speaker 4: They are presenting sponsor for the post game show.

1309
01:02:10,874 --> 01:02:13,994
Speaker 3: So I think that we should. Yeah, I mean show

1310
01:02:14,034 --> 01:02:16,874
Speaker 3: a little of every week. You mocking my kids. I

1311
01:02:16,914 --> 01:02:19,234
Speaker 3: can't go to you go to draft? Why don't you

1312
01:02:19,274 --> 01:02:21,153
Speaker 3: go to draft? I can't. I'm not allowed to ford.

1313
01:02:21,194 --> 01:02:22,474
Speaker 8: I signed a contract that you're not.

1314
01:02:23,074 --> 01:02:24,114
Speaker 3: It's not allowed to use it.

1315
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Speaker 7: Don't You can't even look at.

1316
01:02:25,434 --> 01:02:28,434
Speaker 3: It, Paul, I look at it every week. You can

1317
01:02:28,514 --> 01:02:36,714
Speaker 3: see every Thursday morning. Paul's grandfather has different rules, like

1318
01:02:37,114 --> 01:02:37,954
Speaker 3: this is not serious.

1319
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Speaker 2: Right, that's another great moment.

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Speaker 3: All right back here, it's Paul Duce, Alex, myself, Matt Nabooth,

1321
01:02:46,874 --> 01:02:48,754
Speaker 3: Evan will be here soon. We gotta do picks, so

1322
01:02:48,794 --> 01:02:52,354
Speaker 3: we gotta hurry. But let's take some emails at podcasts

1323
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Speaker 3: at Patriots dot com. Alexandre Notandra, Alexandre in Brazil, right, San,

1324
01:02:59,354 --> 01:03:01,914
Speaker 3: He loves the show has been listening since twenty sixteen.

1325
01:03:02,394 --> 01:03:05,194
Speaker 3: Yesterday's talk about winnable and losable games was spot on.

1326
01:03:05,914 --> 01:03:08,194
Speaker 3: Over the season, the close games tend to flip one

1327
01:03:08,234 --> 01:03:11,114
Speaker 3: way or another, randomly, and this is another proof of

1328
01:03:11,234 --> 01:03:16,394
Speaker 3: Belichick's hypocrisy. Lombardi aka the Mouth of Saarn, went on

1329
01:03:16,594 --> 01:03:19,593
Speaker 3: babbling like that last year's record was not a good

1330
01:03:19,674 --> 01:03:22,834
Speaker 3: indicator of the team's quality, but he himself loves to

1331
01:03:22,914 --> 01:03:25,633
Speaker 3: quote the you are what you are what your record says,

1332
01:03:25,674 --> 01:03:28,274
Speaker 3: you are a lyne. How many of the four wins

1333
01:03:28,394 --> 01:03:31,914
Speaker 3: came from details? Last minute heroics against the Bills, improbable

1334
01:03:32,114 --> 01:03:35,474
Speaker 3: Christmas kicking Denver, and the almost ridiculous Jets hail mary?

1335
01:03:37,194 --> 01:03:40,314
Speaker 3: How much? How many of the four wins came from details?

1336
01:03:40,514 --> 01:03:42,514
Speaker 3: The Jets hail Mary? I don't know what that is?

1337
01:03:44,474 --> 01:03:47,034
Speaker 3: Almost miraculous Jets hail Mary? He said, I don't know.

1338
01:03:47,914 --> 01:03:49,554
Speaker 3: They said the team the team was bad.

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Speaker 4: I do now that he says that the Jets had

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01:03:52,194 --> 01:03:53,594
Speaker 4: a hail Mary at the end of that game that

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01:03:53,674 --> 01:03:54,514
Speaker 4: fell short.

1342
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Speaker 8: With the Marcus Marcus.

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Speaker 3: It was called but short of the goal line.

1344
01:03:59,394 --> 01:04:01,954
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, now that I'm thinking of it, Yeah, I

1345
01:04:02,034 --> 01:04:03,874
Speaker 4: think the Patriots won like fifteen to ten.

1346
01:04:04,594 --> 01:04:07,754
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, the team was bad last year, it

1347
01:04:08,194 --> 01:04:11,073
Speaker 3: is bad this year, and hopefully we'll be better next year.

1348
01:04:11,394 --> 01:04:13,514
Speaker 3: Wolf has to prove he's a good GM and nail

1349
01:04:13,554 --> 01:04:16,234
Speaker 3: the offseason, both in the draft, trades and free agency.

1350
01:04:16,314 --> 01:04:19,154
Speaker 3: Let's surround the kid with weapons and improve this offense.

1351
01:04:19,234 --> 01:04:23,954
Speaker 3: So his bigger point was the team was what it

1352
01:04:24,074 --> 01:04:25,234
Speaker 3: records was last year.

1353
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Speaker 4: Ye yeah, and it is now and he's proving. You know,

1354
01:04:30,074 --> 01:04:33,113
Speaker 4: you can talk yourself into anything. You can say, we're

1355
01:04:33,154 --> 01:04:35,514
Speaker 4: not as bad as four and thirteen, But if you

1356
01:04:35,634 --> 01:04:37,834
Speaker 4: go four and thirteen, like you could say, you know,

1357
01:04:37,914 --> 01:04:40,154
Speaker 4: we went eight nine and we probably should have been

1358
01:04:40,194 --> 01:04:43,554
Speaker 4: better than that. We you know, like right now, there's

1359
01:04:43,754 --> 01:04:46,914
Speaker 4: a handful of teams that probably feel like they should

1360
01:04:46,954 --> 01:04:48,794
Speaker 4: be in the playoff race that aren't Cincinnati.

1361
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Speaker 3: You brought up is one.

1362
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Speaker 4: You know, they have more talent than their record indicates.

1363
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Speaker 4: But if you're four and thirteen, you're probably a four

1364
01:04:58,714 --> 01:05:00,514
Speaker 4: and thirteen team. You know what are you maybe a

1365
01:05:00,554 --> 01:05:03,354
Speaker 4: six and eleven team instead? Yeah, you know, if you

1366
01:05:03,394 --> 01:05:05,314
Speaker 4: get some breaks here and there, you're a bad team.

1367
01:05:05,834 --> 01:05:07,914
Speaker 8: I think I'm also learning about tiers of bad teams

1368
01:05:07,954 --> 01:05:11,113
Speaker 8: where it's like there's like the the zero to three

1369
01:05:11,194 --> 01:05:13,954
Speaker 8: win teams or zero but you know one two three wins,

1370
01:05:13,994 --> 01:05:15,674
Speaker 8: and it's nine teams with two wins.

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Speaker 4: It's bad the most since like two thousand and six.

1372
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Speaker 3: At his time of year before.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I just think if you're well coached team

1374
01:05:23,594 --> 01:05:26,354
Speaker 8: and you and you don't get absolutely injuries, he should

1375
01:05:26,394 --> 01:05:28,394
Speaker 8: be in the five to six win territory.

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Speaker 13: You know.

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Speaker 8: It's like you really, it really kind of has to

1378
01:05:31,314 --> 01:05:33,673
Speaker 8: be bad to be stuck in that like two, three four.

1379
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Speaker 4: Even the injury thing. You know, I talked about this all,

1380
01:05:36,514 --> 01:05:42,394
Speaker 4: like everybody has a lot of injuries. The bad years

1381
01:05:42,474 --> 01:05:45,034
Speaker 4: for teams are when the injuries are concentrated in like

1382
01:05:45,114 --> 01:05:48,234
Speaker 4: a specific area. Yeah, you know, and all of a sudden,

1383
01:05:48,354 --> 01:05:51,154
Speaker 4: you know, like Tampa Bay, like they just, all of

1384
01:05:51,194 --> 01:05:53,434
Speaker 4: a sudden go into a game with no wide receivers

1385
01:05:53,514 --> 01:05:56,314
Speaker 4: because Godwin and Evans both go down in the same game.

1386
01:05:56,954 --> 01:05:59,474
Speaker 4: You know, like that's a crippling you know, it's only

1387
01:05:59,554 --> 01:06:01,634
Speaker 4: two injuries. You say, what do you mean everybody.

1388
01:06:01,314 --> 01:06:03,593
Speaker 3: Else is healthy? That that's hard.

1389
01:06:03,714 --> 01:06:06,034
Speaker 4: Like Baker Mayfield has to go into a game, a

1390
01:06:06,114 --> 01:06:09,074
Speaker 4: big division game at home against Atlanta and have no

1391
01:06:09,314 --> 01:06:11,994
Speaker 4: real idea where he's going to get production from.

1392
01:06:12,074 --> 01:06:13,394
Speaker 3: You know, it's a hard thing to overcome.

1393
01:06:13,474 --> 01:06:16,113
Speaker 8: Yeah, remember similar to the twenty thirteen Patriots lost Will

1394
01:06:16,194 --> 01:06:19,633
Speaker 8: Fork and forget who is the branch? Maybe I forget

1395
01:06:19,674 --> 01:06:21,474
Speaker 8: who the like tackle they kind of paired him with

1396
01:06:21,474 --> 01:06:22,954
Speaker 8: at the time, but they lost both those guys and

1397
01:06:22,994 --> 01:06:26,314
Speaker 8: then they had like white Christianes, like that other Chris

1398
01:06:26,394 --> 01:06:27,914
Speaker 8: Jones that was the Patriots guy who was like an

1399
01:06:28,034 --> 01:06:31,074
Speaker 8: undrafted like just played a year or two, but he

1400
01:06:31,274 --> 01:06:34,954
Speaker 8: him and Joelano, remember jober Joe Allano, him and Chris Jones.

1401
01:06:34,994 --> 01:06:37,074
Speaker 8: You probably lost Chris Jones and the other Chris Jones

1402
01:06:38,074 --> 01:06:39,754
Speaker 8: with the real Chris Jones. But you know, all of

1403
01:06:39,754 --> 01:06:40,954
Speaker 8: a sudden, if.

1404
01:06:40,834 --> 01:06:43,474
Speaker 3: The other Chris Jones played in like two thousand and six, I'd.

1405
01:06:43,314 --> 01:06:46,194
Speaker 4: Be like, oh, yeah, remember him well, Like it was

1406
01:06:46,274 --> 01:06:47,474
Speaker 4: brief but that but that would.

1407
01:06:49,034 --> 01:06:49,194
Speaker 3: Guy.

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01:06:49,394 --> 01:06:51,874
Speaker 8: Yeah, same kind of point though, same thing, like your

1409
01:06:51,914 --> 01:06:55,633
Speaker 8: two interior tackles that everything's going to kind of go through,

1410
01:06:55,714 --> 01:06:58,114
Speaker 8: lost them, and then you're stuck with like two undrafted

1411
01:06:58,194 --> 01:06:58,994
Speaker 8: rookies now and I.

1412
01:06:58,994 --> 01:07:02,274
Speaker 4: Meantriots already was short on the offensive line, and then

1413
01:07:02,354 --> 01:07:06,514
Speaker 4: you have like two and three offensive linemen unavailable every game.

1414
01:07:06,874 --> 01:07:09,994
Speaker 4: You know, David Andrews gets hurt, Daria Lowe gets hurt,

1415
01:07:10,114 --> 01:07:13,314
Speaker 4: Lady Robinson gets hurt, and City So is not ready

1416
01:07:13,354 --> 01:07:15,834
Speaker 4: to go. At the start of the season, concentrated all

1417
01:07:15,914 --> 01:07:19,034
Speaker 4: in the same area that affects things Matt and.

1418
01:07:20,714 --> 01:07:22,434
Speaker 8: No, no, I didn't. I just I just needed to

1419
01:07:22,514 --> 01:07:24,514
Speaker 8: make sure that there is Chris Jones.

1420
01:07:26,594 --> 01:07:27,234
Speaker 7: Remember that guy?

1421
01:07:27,514 --> 01:07:35,794
Speaker 3: Sure? Let me see never not you don't remember Chris Jones?

1422
01:07:35,834 --> 01:07:37,914
Speaker 3: Do you I remember the name? I don't.

1423
01:07:38,594 --> 01:07:40,754
Speaker 8: Bill Belichick is the frame of the game giving Chris

1424
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Speaker 8: Jones a hug.

1425
01:07:41,634 --> 01:07:42,434
Speaker 3: Oh that's perfect.

1426
01:07:43,034 --> 01:07:44,914
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be good because I get made fun of

1427
01:07:45,034 --> 01:07:46,713
Speaker 4: for taking shots at Bill after the fact.

1428
01:07:47,194 --> 01:07:49,633
Speaker 3: Matt and Devin uk I personally think that the pick

1429
01:07:49,754 --> 01:07:52,474
Speaker 3: segment is the best part of the week. Don't listen

1430
01:07:52,514 --> 01:07:54,914
Speaker 3: to the grumpy people who don't like it. It's hilarious

1431
01:07:55,354 --> 01:07:56,914
Speaker 3: and like you say, it's the part of the week

1432
01:07:56,954 --> 01:07:58,314
Speaker 3: where you get to talk about the rest of the

1433
01:07:58,394 --> 01:08:01,794
Speaker 3: league and have a little fun. Firstly, Fred, don't ever change.

1434
01:08:01,834 --> 01:08:04,074
Speaker 3: You are hilarious in the picks. And even though we

1435
01:08:04,274 --> 01:08:06,874
Speaker 3: know what you're going to say, Denver, oh is at home,

1436
01:08:06,994 --> 01:08:08,914
Speaker 3: the home team gets three points. It gets me every

1437
01:08:08,994 --> 01:08:12,394
Speaker 3: timely second, if you really want to know what the

1438
01:08:12,474 --> 01:08:15,034
Speaker 3: Sharps know, then just follow Alex. She always picks the

1439
01:08:15,074 --> 01:08:17,674
Speaker 3: favorites and lays the points, so just look at her record.

1440
01:08:18,474 --> 01:08:20,994
Speaker 3: And finally, can you please explain to me how you

1441
01:08:21,074 --> 01:08:23,674
Speaker 3: can get the result of the game wrong but win

1442
01:08:23,754 --> 01:08:26,674
Speaker 3: the spread. Surely, if you get the team wrong to win,

1443
01:08:27,234 --> 01:08:29,554
Speaker 3: then you've got the points wrong. I'm not a betting man.

1444
01:08:29,594 --> 01:08:30,674
Speaker 3: I really don't understand this.

1445
01:08:31,874 --> 01:08:33,154
Speaker 4: Maybe we need to do a better job of Do

1446
01:08:33,234 --> 01:08:34,394
Speaker 4: you want to explain that part?

1447
01:08:35,954 --> 01:08:39,434
Speaker 3: I mean, the spread is not related to the result.

1448
01:08:39,834 --> 01:08:43,034
Speaker 4: Right, so you could get the you get the results

1449
01:08:43,074 --> 01:08:43,834
Speaker 4: of the game wrong.

1450
01:08:44,674 --> 01:08:46,274
Speaker 8: Should Murrell be taking notes on this?

1451
01:08:46,394 --> 01:08:47,234
Speaker 3: Maybe? Yeah?

1452
01:08:48,114 --> 01:08:50,314
Speaker 5: This is how maybe you should say.

1453
01:08:51,114 --> 01:08:53,154
Speaker 3: Let's say that let's say that I don't know that

1454
01:08:53,194 --> 01:08:56,234
Speaker 3: you've spread, but let's say the Patriots are seven point

1455
01:08:56,394 --> 01:08:59,914
Speaker 3: underdogs this week, right right, right? They lose the game

1456
01:09:00,874 --> 01:09:04,594
Speaker 3: on the scoreboard, but they in the the score ends

1457
01:09:04,674 --> 01:09:07,394
Speaker 3: up only being a five point difference. So it means

1458
01:09:07,434 --> 01:09:09,113
Speaker 3: if you pick the Patriots you want.

1459
01:09:09,034 --> 01:09:13,394
Speaker 4: If you pick the Patriots to win and cover, you

1460
01:09:13,594 --> 01:09:15,234
Speaker 4: only win the spread.

1461
01:09:15,394 --> 01:09:18,074
Speaker 1: Kansas City Tampa Bay, Kansas City was minus nine, but

1462
01:09:18,474 --> 01:09:24,154
Speaker 1: the score was twenty four to twenty right, yeah, you.

1463
01:09:24,154 --> 01:09:25,754
Speaker 3: Know, you see you big Tampa.

1464
01:09:25,794 --> 01:09:27,554
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that wasn't the score of that game either,

1465
01:09:27,594 --> 01:09:30,194
Speaker 4: and that's part of your problem. It was thirty to

1466
01:09:30,274 --> 01:09:30,794
Speaker 4: twenty four.

1467
01:09:30,994 --> 01:09:31,634
Speaker 3: What's the final.

1468
01:09:33,114 --> 01:09:35,154
Speaker 5: I don't know how he messed it up, and I

1469
01:09:35,194 --> 01:09:37,274
Speaker 5: don't know how you were Remember that.

1470
01:09:41,514 --> 01:09:44,794
Speaker 4: My boy is still no but he's asking a question,

1471
01:09:44,954 --> 01:09:47,394
Speaker 4: how can you get the points spread right in the

1472
01:09:47,434 --> 01:09:50,394
Speaker 4: result of the game wrong? So in Fred's example, if

1473
01:09:50,434 --> 01:09:53,994
Speaker 4: the Patriots are underdogs by six this week against Chicago,

1474
01:09:54,474 --> 01:09:57,154
Speaker 4: and you pick the Patriots to win and cover and

1475
01:09:57,234 --> 01:10:00,434
Speaker 4: they lose by three, Chicago wins the game. So if

1476
01:10:00,434 --> 01:10:02,314
Speaker 4: you pick the Patriots to win the game, you lose

1477
01:10:02,714 --> 01:10:03,634
Speaker 4: the result of the game.

1478
01:10:03,674 --> 01:10:04,514
Speaker 3: You lose that pick.

1479
01:10:04,954 --> 01:10:07,794
Speaker 4: However, you win the spread because you were also getting

1480
01:10:07,834 --> 01:10:10,274
Speaker 4: six points and they only lost by three. So you

1481
01:10:10,474 --> 01:10:12,314
Speaker 4: lose the game the result of the game, but you

1482
01:10:12,434 --> 01:10:13,954
Speaker 4: win the pick against the spread.

1483
01:10:13,994 --> 01:10:15,394
Speaker 3: Good day, sir, Right.

1484
01:10:16,034 --> 01:10:17,674
Speaker 8: Loose You got that?

1485
01:10:17,834 --> 01:10:17,994
Speaker 3: Matt?

1486
01:10:18,554 --> 01:10:20,674
Speaker 8: Matt looks like that's why you need a Matt lipstick

1487
01:10:20,714 --> 01:10:22,514
Speaker 8: camp because he was just staring at you like, Oh,

1488
01:10:22,594 --> 01:10:24,354
Speaker 8: I should have probably known this about five years ago.

1489
01:10:24,394 --> 01:10:28,474
Speaker 3: Classy I Chris wants to know about a question for Paul.

1490
01:10:28,954 --> 01:10:32,554
Speaker 3: What is your opinion on pepsi max versus pepsi zero sugar.

1491
01:10:33,354 --> 01:10:34,154
Speaker 3: I haven't really.

1492
01:10:34,034 --> 01:10:38,314
Speaker 4: Tried a lot of the difference pepsi's DP diet. Pepsi

1493
01:10:38,714 --> 01:10:39,474
Speaker 4: blame my wife.

1494
01:10:40,114 --> 01:10:42,514
Speaker 8: What's your B though? If you had a B like

1495
01:10:42,594 --> 01:10:44,874
Speaker 8: a beast, you know, a squad is diet PEPSI. What's

1496
01:10:44,874 --> 01:10:46,474
Speaker 8: your B squad? If you had to go nothing, you

1497
01:10:46,514 --> 01:10:51,394
Speaker 8: had nothing, no, yeah, I would go like Gatorade, Gatorade

1498
01:10:51,474 --> 01:10:53,034
Speaker 8: zero or something like the fleet right.

1499
01:10:56,234 --> 01:10:56,874
Speaker 3: Appreciate you.

1500
01:10:58,034 --> 01:11:00,314
Speaker 8: They make your own gatorade. Back in the day at

1501
01:11:00,354 --> 01:11:01,874
Speaker 8: BU Baseball in the eighties.

1502
01:11:01,634 --> 01:11:04,234
Speaker 3: Was that yeah so good? Yeah?

1503
01:11:05,354 --> 01:11:07,754
Speaker 4: Well I didn't do it a lot, but yeah, they had.

1504
01:11:07,714 --> 01:11:10,394
Speaker 8: That stuff like it, like it a lot, give it

1505
01:11:10,394 --> 01:11:11,354
Speaker 8: a look, extra kick.

1506
01:11:11,954 --> 01:11:13,954
Speaker 4: Now it's like the liquid IV's that the kids do.

1507
01:11:14,634 --> 01:11:16,154
Speaker 6: Oh, there's so much sugar in those two.

1508
01:11:16,394 --> 01:11:20,354
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm sure that's part of the reason why

1509
01:11:20,434 --> 01:11:25,754
Speaker 3: he uses it. Let's see Bud Wrights or writes in

1510
01:11:25,914 --> 01:11:28,674
Speaker 3: I have a friend named Buggler. Actually he calls himself

1511
01:11:28,714 --> 01:11:32,714
Speaker 3: shutters in Manchester, interested to get Fred and Paul's answer

1512
01:11:32,794 --> 01:11:36,394
Speaker 3: from the inside and from Evan induced on the outside. Alex,

1513
01:11:36,434 --> 01:11:39,674
Speaker 3: you're out which non player? So a coach, GM, staff,

1514
01:11:39,714 --> 01:11:43,554
Speaker 3: et cetera. Do you think doesn't get enough acknowledgment for

1515
01:11:43,674 --> 01:11:48,354
Speaker 3: their contribution during the Dynasty years. Tune into Claire's podcast

1516
01:11:48,434 --> 01:11:52,914
Speaker 3: for No Socks answer to this tomorrow. Yeah, he was

1517
01:11:52,994 --> 01:11:56,514
Speaker 3: on this morning, no socks. It was on Claire's.

1518
01:11:57,994 --> 01:11:59,234
Speaker 8: Grows up and he grows out?

1519
01:12:00,314 --> 01:12:01,274
Speaker 3: So which non.

1520
01:12:02,874 --> 01:12:02,994
Speaker 7: Up?

1521
01:12:04,074 --> 01:12:07,474
Speaker 3: Non? So a coach? We have to pick a coach? Well,

1522
01:12:08,034 --> 01:12:10,354
Speaker 3: I have somebody in mind that.

1523
01:12:10,434 --> 01:12:12,474
Speaker 4: Doesn't get enough credit for the Dynasty years?

1524
01:12:12,514 --> 01:12:14,474
Speaker 3: Okay, who do you have in mind? Ernie Adams? Do

1525
01:12:14,514 --> 01:12:16,034
Speaker 3: you think he doesn't get enough credits?

1526
01:12:17,074 --> 01:12:19,394
Speaker 6: Wow, in the moment, he probably didn't.

1527
01:12:19,714 --> 01:12:21,794
Speaker 3: He probably he gets a lot of credit now and

1528
01:12:21,874 --> 01:12:25,194
Speaker 3: he should. But you know, I agree that he should,

1529
01:12:25,274 --> 01:12:28,834
Speaker 3: but I think he does. Yeah, Okay, that's fair. Who's

1530
01:12:28,874 --> 01:12:32,434
Speaker 3: the person who doesn't get any credit that should m

1531
01:12:34,034 --> 01:12:36,754
Speaker 3: I'm Nancy Meyer. Yeah.

1532
01:12:37,594 --> 01:12:39,514
Speaker 4: I have a hard time coming up with someone that

1533
01:12:39,594 --> 01:12:42,194
Speaker 4: doesn't really get a lot of credit.

1534
01:12:42,674 --> 01:12:47,514
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tom Brady right, Like, yeah, I don't know. Is

1535
01:12:47,554 --> 01:12:49,394
Speaker 3: there a coach that you would say like he was.

1536
01:12:51,634 --> 01:12:54,154
Speaker 4: A really really good coaching People didn't realize what a

1537
01:12:54,194 --> 01:12:57,314
Speaker 4: good coach he was. I think people know like Charlie wasn't,

1538
01:12:57,394 --> 01:13:00,434
Speaker 4: Romeo Cornell were really good, and Josh came in he

1539
01:13:00,554 --> 01:13:02,554
Speaker 4: was really good after that, and then Bill O'Brien did

1540
01:13:02,554 --> 01:13:03,234
Speaker 4: a really good job.

1541
01:13:03,314 --> 01:13:06,794
Speaker 6: Like those guys, what about something I didn't know until

1542
01:13:06,914 --> 01:13:09,554
Speaker 6: being on the show with you guys, the the guy

1543
01:13:09,634 --> 01:13:12,874
Speaker 6: who really pushed for Tom Brady who has since passed away.

1544
01:13:13,594 --> 01:13:18,074
Speaker 6: That's lore that I really never knew until. Like I said,

1545
01:13:18,114 --> 01:13:18,954
Speaker 6: I think Paul told me.

1546
01:13:18,994 --> 01:13:23,714
Speaker 4: That Dick Raybne was largely credited with like Bill told him,

1547
01:13:23,794 --> 01:13:27,114
Speaker 4: discovered we want we wanted after quarterback late in the draft,

1548
01:13:27,514 --> 01:13:30,194
Speaker 4: and he tasked Dick raybih with picking the one that

1549
01:13:30,274 --> 01:13:34,234
Speaker 4: he wanted, and he's the one that identified Tom Brady.

1550
01:13:34,794 --> 01:13:38,554
Speaker 3: I mean, according to that's the lower the lore word

1551
01:13:38,634 --> 01:13:41,354
Speaker 3: and that lawer.

1552
01:13:41,514 --> 01:13:43,794
Speaker 8: He died in what August two thousand and one, I

1553
01:13:43,874 --> 01:13:47,274
Speaker 8: mean amongst like one of the craziest periods in Patriot history.

1554
01:13:47,274 --> 01:13:48,914
Speaker 8: And I mean he kind of gets forgotten a little

1555
01:13:48,914 --> 01:13:51,714
Speaker 8: bit because of nine to eleven and Bledsoe and Brady

1556
01:13:51,754 --> 01:13:54,234
Speaker 8: and everything that happened, like within the two weeks of

1557
01:13:54,274 --> 01:13:54,754
Speaker 8: it happening.

1558
01:13:54,834 --> 01:14:03,234
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think Gil Santos, why, oh, I mean,

1559
01:14:03,474 --> 01:14:05,274
Speaker 3: it's a great question. I just don't know if I

1560
01:14:05,354 --> 01:14:08,354
Speaker 3: have a good one. That's a great voice.

1561
01:14:09,594 --> 01:14:12,754
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, it's uh, what's the other part of the question.

1562
01:14:13,234 --> 01:14:16,754
Speaker 4: I think everybody gets good And I thought there was

1563
01:14:16,794 --> 01:14:17,514
Speaker 4: something from Mike.

1564
01:14:17,594 --> 01:14:20,874
Speaker 8: Ivan though he was asking for our outside perspective. That's

1565
01:14:20,874 --> 01:14:22,474
Speaker 8: what I think, you man, that you guys were here.

1566
01:14:22,714 --> 01:14:25,794
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think, to be honest, not to some on snarky,

1567
01:14:26,114 --> 01:14:29,153
Speaker 4: I think everybody's gotten a significant amount of credit.

1568
01:14:29,154 --> 01:14:32,074
Speaker 3: Them out of their documentaries and all that stuff we've made.

1569
01:14:32,114 --> 01:14:35,794
Speaker 3: I think we think of it under the radar contributor.

1570
01:14:35,834 --> 01:14:37,954
Speaker 8: I wonder who no socks Ha got. Maybe we'll turn

1571
01:14:37,994 --> 01:14:40,074
Speaker 8: into a clear perspective tomorrow to find out.

1572
01:14:42,154 --> 01:14:46,274
Speaker 4: I'm going to guess that Fred and Paul will scoff

1573
01:14:46,354 --> 01:14:49,634
Speaker 4: at whatever. Everyone got credit, but it was just Brady anyway,

1574
01:14:49,714 --> 01:14:51,834
Speaker 4: so stop asking, Well, he'll be the last guy to

1575
01:14:51,954 --> 01:14:52,474
Speaker 4: be credits.

1576
01:14:53,114 --> 01:14:56,834
Speaker 3: It's kind of like you in that regard Austin and

1577
01:14:56,914 --> 01:14:59,554
Speaker 3: North Carolina. I normally watch or listen on my phone.

1578
01:14:59,634 --> 01:15:01,674
Speaker 3: Yesterday I decided to put the show up on my

1579
01:15:01,794 --> 01:15:04,554
Speaker 3: TV and pumped up the video quality. All I can

1580
01:15:04,634 --> 01:15:09,834
Speaker 3: say is wow, Okay, he says take that. How you will.

1581
01:15:12,674 --> 01:15:14,354
Speaker 8: Us mostly on the show yesterday, So thank you.

1582
01:15:14,834 --> 01:15:17,194
Speaker 3: At this point the season, who do you think has

1583
01:15:17,234 --> 01:15:19,794
Speaker 3: done their job better? Wolf versus Mayo? And if this

1584
01:15:19,994 --> 01:15:23,034
Speaker 3: season continues on this track, could we start to see

1585
01:15:23,114 --> 01:15:27,874
Speaker 3: friction between the two. Geez A little concerned about that

1586
01:15:28,034 --> 01:15:33,074
Speaker 3: last part. Probably Mayo.

1587
01:15:33,834 --> 01:15:35,434
Speaker 8: I would probably lean Mayo, but I don't.

1588
01:15:35,994 --> 01:15:37,394
Speaker 3: I think Mayo has kept it together.

1589
01:15:37,634 --> 01:15:39,594
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you know, you know, some of the

1590
01:15:39,674 --> 01:15:43,114
Speaker 4: comments that you came today with, you know, guys sort

1591
01:15:43,194 --> 01:15:44,354
Speaker 4: of young guys being.

1592
01:15:44,234 --> 01:15:46,954
Speaker 3: Hungry still and being on board. That's the coach's job.

1593
01:15:47,074 --> 01:15:49,714
Speaker 4: Yeah, two and seven. We got to keep continue to

1594
01:15:49,954 --> 01:15:53,234
Speaker 4: work toward what we're our goals are, right. Yeah, and

1595
01:15:53,354 --> 01:15:56,274
Speaker 4: obviously they're short on talent. So I think Mayo has

1596
01:15:56,274 --> 01:15:57,714
Speaker 4: probably done a better job.

1597
01:15:57,834 --> 01:15:59,114
Speaker 8: Yeah, you won me over on that.

1598
01:15:59,234 --> 01:16:00,234
Speaker 14: I like that.

1599
01:16:02,114 --> 01:16:05,674
Speaker 3: Let's see Cole writes in first time he's ever written

1600
01:16:05,834 --> 01:16:06,314
Speaker 3: or called.

1601
01:16:06,594 --> 01:16:06,714
Speaker 14: Uh.

1602
01:16:07,114 --> 01:16:11,954
Speaker 3: Been listening since six, been reading since the nineties. I

1603
01:16:12,114 --> 01:16:14,474
Speaker 3: joined the Navy in O three. Thank you for your service,

1604
01:16:14,554 --> 01:16:16,994
Speaker 3: and it was difficult to download anything on a ship

1605
01:16:17,074 --> 01:16:19,914
Speaker 3: with limited bandwidth. I used to have the newspaper delivered

1606
01:16:19,954 --> 01:16:22,234
Speaker 3: to the ship. It was amazing. We used to have

1607
01:16:22,354 --> 01:16:25,034
Speaker 3: Carol go out on a robot. She would actually hand

1608
01:16:25,074 --> 01:16:28,154
Speaker 3: the she would put one of those like yellowishers I

1609
01:16:28,314 --> 01:16:33,194
Speaker 3: have on and then she'd come back. But anyway, you said,

1610
01:16:33,434 --> 01:16:35,514
Speaker 3: the paper would show up three to six weeks after

1611
01:16:35,594 --> 01:16:39,834
Speaker 3: it was pret That sounds about right, and that wasn't

1612
01:16:39,914 --> 01:16:43,154
Speaker 3: just for people on ships. I watched Super Bowl thirty

1613
01:16:43,194 --> 01:16:45,834
Speaker 3: eight in the middle of the Mediterranean. I got written

1614
01:16:45,914 --> 01:16:47,914
Speaker 3: up for not being at quarters when Adam kicked the

1615
01:16:47,954 --> 01:16:51,514
Speaker 3: game winner. I retired from the Navy last year. Congratulations,

1616
01:16:51,554 --> 01:16:53,994
Speaker 3: and I can honestly say that you two and the

1617
01:16:54,074 --> 01:16:56,234
Speaker 3: rest of the crew helped me greatly through a career

1618
01:16:56,314 --> 01:16:58,634
Speaker 3: that took me out of the country more often than not.

1619
01:16:59,114 --> 01:17:04,394
Speaker 3: The evolution of the PU crew has been amazing to watch. Paul, Fred, Andy, Brian,

1620
01:17:04,754 --> 01:17:08,674
Speaker 3: Eric kind Of Megan, Mike, Alex Tamara, and of course Evan.

1621
01:17:09,234 --> 01:17:11,154
Speaker 3: Thank you from the bottom of my heart for doing

1622
01:17:11,234 --> 01:17:14,114
Speaker 3: what you do. Your level headed analysis was welcome light

1623
01:17:14,594 --> 01:17:17,394
Speaker 3: in the darkness that is most Boston media. I will

1624
01:17:17,434 --> 01:17:19,154
Speaker 3: listen as long as you guys are on the air,

1625
01:17:19,434 --> 01:17:22,073
Speaker 3: I will make it a point to make more contact

1626
01:17:22,114 --> 01:17:24,834
Speaker 3: from now on. Well, thank you, called, I appreciate it.

1627
01:17:25,634 --> 01:17:26,114
Speaker 3: That's great.

1628
01:17:26,954 --> 01:17:28,674
Speaker 8: Talk to Joe Cardona about getting that.

1629
01:17:29,034 --> 01:17:31,594
Speaker 3: I gotta ask that Carol why she never told us

1630
01:17:31,634 --> 01:17:32,114
Speaker 3: about him?

1631
01:17:32,714 --> 01:17:34,754
Speaker 8: You know that either, Dingy.

1632
01:17:35,034 --> 01:17:36,914
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys.

1633
01:17:37,034 --> 01:17:39,914
Speaker 4: You guys don't even know how hard it was these two.

1634
01:17:40,114 --> 01:17:42,154
Speaker 8: Well, all I heard was about how hard Andy made

1635
01:17:42,154 --> 01:17:44,234
Speaker 8: it on Carol and I'm talking.

1636
01:17:44,074 --> 01:17:47,914
Speaker 4: To you as doing that because you were in the

1637
01:17:47,954 --> 01:17:48,594
Speaker 4: paper itself.

1638
01:17:48,954 --> 01:17:51,834
Speaker 3: Because we you know, it was tough to get. Uh,

1639
01:17:51,914 --> 01:17:55,394
Speaker 3: it was hard a paper, you know, delivered to people

1640
01:17:55,474 --> 01:17:58,594
Speaker 3: before the next game when they lived outside of New England.

1641
01:17:58,994 --> 01:18:01,714
Speaker 3: We tried our best, but you know, you're a subject

1642
01:18:01,794 --> 01:18:05,434
Speaker 3: to the us PS. And someone would call in and

1643
01:18:05,514 --> 01:18:10,034
Speaker 3: say I didn't get Carol. Well, what would happen? You know,

1644
01:18:10,074 --> 01:18:13,154
Speaker 3: because the customer service number was her phone on our desk,

1645
01:18:13,954 --> 01:18:16,194
Speaker 3: so she'd have to like answer to all these people

1646
01:18:16,234 --> 01:18:18,434
Speaker 3: who were like, where's my paper was? And then like

1647
01:18:19,434 --> 01:18:21,074
Speaker 3: so she wasn't at her desk all the time, so

1648
01:18:21,194 --> 01:18:24,274
Speaker 3: the little red light would be constantly blinking and Andy

1649
01:18:24,314 --> 01:18:27,634
Speaker 3: would want you got voice messages? Come on, Cali, you

1650
01:18:27,674 --> 01:18:31,474
Speaker 3: gotta answer those voice messages. Oh and he was relentless, Carol,

1651
01:18:31,674 --> 01:18:32,674
Speaker 3: no more talking talking.

1652
01:18:33,754 --> 01:18:37,114
Speaker 8: I was a subscriber in California, so I've experienced firsthand

1653
01:18:37,154 --> 01:18:37,954
Speaker 8: some of those delays.

1654
01:18:38,114 --> 01:18:41,634
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait a minute, wasn't that two weeks ago? This game? Yeah?

1655
01:18:41,674 --> 01:18:42,594
Speaker 8: I just like the pictures.

1656
01:18:42,754 --> 01:18:46,554
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nathan and Tampa, what's going on with Pop? Drake

1657
01:18:46,754 --> 01:18:49,034
Speaker 3: likes to throw to him. He's our best receiver at

1658
01:18:49,074 --> 01:18:51,474
Speaker 3: beating man coverage. And he could be a yak machine

1659
01:18:51,514 --> 01:18:54,074
Speaker 3: when hit and stride. In training camp, I believe it

1660
01:18:54,194 --> 01:18:57,234
Speaker 3: was mentioned the coaching staff values of receiver's ability to

1661
01:18:57,394 --> 01:19:00,034
Speaker 3: run block, and Douglas is on the smaller side. But

1662
01:19:00,154 --> 01:19:02,394
Speaker 3: we can't run the ball anyway, so who cares if

1663
01:19:02,434 --> 01:19:04,634
Speaker 3: Douglas can't block. Pop needs to stay on the field

1664
01:19:04,714 --> 01:19:05,514
Speaker 3: all three downs.

1665
01:19:08,154 --> 01:19:10,634
Speaker 8: I just don't know if he's got their ability, you know.

1666
01:19:10,834 --> 01:19:12,914
Speaker 8: I like being able to use him in specific spots,

1667
01:19:12,954 --> 01:19:14,754
Speaker 8: but I kind I generally get the point though, of

1668
01:19:14,914 --> 01:19:16,914
Speaker 8: like I felt like first couple of games that they

1669
01:19:16,954 --> 01:19:19,154
Speaker 8: had a chemistry going and hasn't been quite as much

1670
01:19:19,194 --> 01:19:21,234
Speaker 8: the last few. But I just think you need other

1671
01:19:21,234 --> 01:19:22,754
Speaker 8: guys to step up so you don't miss it as

1672
01:19:22,834 --> 01:19:24,314
Speaker 8: much when he has a game because all these guys

1673
01:19:24,674 --> 01:19:25,114
Speaker 8: not confused.

1674
01:19:25,474 --> 01:19:28,594
Speaker 4: Is like Tomorio Douglas, his production drops out because he

1675
01:19:28,594 --> 01:19:30,514
Speaker 4: doesn't play enough. Now He's out there all the time,

1676
01:19:31,274 --> 01:19:34,154
Speaker 4: and certainly in passing situations when they have three receivers

1677
01:19:34,194 --> 01:19:36,234
Speaker 4: in the field, he's always one of them, like always

1678
01:19:36,914 --> 01:19:37,234
Speaker 4: one of.

1679
01:19:37,274 --> 01:19:41,474
Speaker 3: Them, let's see, Joe writes in I agree with Chris,

1680
01:19:41,674 --> 01:19:43,354
Speaker 3: though I would like to take it a step further.

1681
01:19:43,474 --> 01:19:46,834
Speaker 3: I love Patriots Football Weekly newsletter in progress more than

1682
01:19:46,914 --> 01:19:49,834
Speaker 3: the team at this point. Honestly, even when Brady was

1683
01:19:49,914 --> 01:19:54,314
Speaker 3: still here. Paul, I know you're right a lot Remandre's running, sustainability,

1684
01:19:54,634 --> 01:19:56,794
Speaker 3: the fact that they brought in no one at left tackle,

1685
01:19:56,794 --> 01:19:58,874
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, and on and on.

1686
01:19:58,994 --> 01:20:01,754
Speaker 3: I just request next season and moving forward. You wait

1687
01:20:01,874 --> 01:20:04,554
Speaker 3: until about week four to give us your revelations so

1688
01:20:04,674 --> 01:20:07,554
Speaker 3: I can be artificially excited about the team just a

1689
01:20:07,634 --> 01:20:08,714
Speaker 3: little bit. I get it.

1690
01:20:10,274 --> 01:20:11,914
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's a tonality issue.

1691
01:20:11,994 --> 01:20:12,354
Speaker 3: I get it.

1692
01:20:12,834 --> 01:20:15,274
Speaker 8: Oh boy, but you got some excitement this summer when

1693
01:20:15,314 --> 01:20:17,834
Speaker 8: we start to see May. You know pop a little bit?

1694
01:20:18,434 --> 01:20:20,514
Speaker 4: I mean, and that is I've maintained that. You know,

1695
01:20:22,034 --> 01:20:23,714
Speaker 4: I said this a couple of times. I get some

1696
01:20:23,794 --> 01:20:25,154
Speaker 4: funny looks when I go on my show.

1697
01:20:25,354 --> 01:20:27,194
Speaker 3: Was I Drake May?

1698
01:20:27,274 --> 01:20:29,154
Speaker 4: I wanted Drake May over Jade and Daniels, and I

1699
01:20:29,274 --> 01:20:32,234
Speaker 4: stand by that. I think he will be better than

1700
01:20:32,674 --> 01:20:35,514
Speaker 4: Jayde and Daniels when all is said and done. And

1701
01:20:35,634 --> 01:20:38,674
Speaker 4: I'm nothing I've seen since has said oh I really

1702
01:20:38,714 --> 01:20:39,314
Speaker 4: missed that one.

1703
01:20:40,674 --> 01:20:45,594
Speaker 3: So Martin from London, from upstairs has a question. You know,

1704
01:20:45,754 --> 01:20:48,514
Speaker 3: the gray track suits that the players wear on the road. Yeah,

1705
01:20:48,634 --> 01:20:50,154
Speaker 3: he wants to know where you can get one. I

1706
01:20:50,194 --> 01:20:51,114
Speaker 3: don't know the answer to that.

1707
01:20:51,194 --> 01:20:51,274
Speaker 14: Now.

1708
01:20:51,434 --> 01:20:52,114
Speaker 3: I don't think you can.

1709
01:20:53,434 --> 01:20:56,514
Speaker 6: There's certain linds have closed that Nike makes and it's

1710
01:20:56,794 --> 01:20:59,154
Speaker 6: just there'll be a label on it that says like

1711
01:20:59,314 --> 01:21:02,554
Speaker 6: bench weear, and it's like it's specifically for a team personnel.

1712
01:21:02,874 --> 01:21:05,074
Speaker 3: They were smart after the season they opened that up.

1713
01:21:05,234 --> 01:21:08,074
Speaker 6: Yeah, they would play afterwards because you got to create

1714
01:21:08,394 --> 01:21:08,754
Speaker 6: the lore.

1715
01:21:09,034 --> 01:21:11,193
Speaker 4: I tell you, Martin, they're not overly flattering.

1716
01:21:12,634 --> 01:21:16,834
Speaker 3: Well, well that's the thing you no. So here's what

1717
01:21:17,074 --> 01:21:20,594
Speaker 3: this is. This is so true. So all the players

1718
01:21:20,714 --> 01:21:27,874
Speaker 3: and staff, not the steerage. Yeah, all the players, coaches, trainer,

1719
01:21:28,034 --> 01:21:38,994
Speaker 3: everybody on the football staff. Evan gets one road. Not

1720
01:21:39,074 --> 01:21:41,514
Speaker 3: everybody can talking at one. Let me finish the story.

1721
01:21:42,514 --> 01:21:44,394
Speaker 3: We went out and got our own tops, but we

1722
01:21:44,434 --> 01:21:47,634
Speaker 3: don't get issued with the full foot right, But everybody

1723
01:21:47,674 --> 01:21:51,594
Speaker 3: on the staff gets that. And there's some people, uh

1724
01:21:51,874 --> 01:21:54,594
Speaker 3: that should not be wearing that track suit. They look

1725
01:21:54,674 --> 01:21:58,354
Speaker 3: like literally they're wearing pajamas. You know, to name some

1726
01:21:58,834 --> 01:22:02,354
Speaker 3: to not name names, but it's not a flattering look.

1727
01:22:02,394 --> 01:22:03,754
Speaker 3: As Paul said, for everybody.

1728
01:22:03,754 --> 01:22:05,834
Speaker 8: I think Evan would Evan when he gets In would

1729
01:22:05,874 --> 01:22:06,434
Speaker 8: echo your.

1730
01:22:06,594 --> 01:22:09,113
Speaker 4: It's not really even a flattering look for the players

1731
01:22:09,114 --> 01:22:12,234
Speaker 4: who are in peak physical condition. They just don't look great.

1732
01:22:12,514 --> 01:22:15,234
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would say, though to Martin, go on eBay.

1733
01:22:15,354 --> 01:22:16,754
Speaker 8: I don't know that they'll be there, but keep an

1734
01:22:16,794 --> 01:22:18,394
Speaker 8: eye on eBay and Google and.

1735
01:22:18,794 --> 01:22:20,914
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four gray out for ninety eight dollars on

1736
01:22:21,034 --> 01:22:22,234
Speaker 1: California Outfits dot.

1737
01:22:22,114 --> 01:22:23,474
Speaker 8: Com California Outlets.

1738
01:22:23,554 --> 01:22:27,714
Speaker 3: I have to look at it is it? Is it authentic? Okay?

1739
01:22:27,754 --> 01:22:31,354
Speaker 3: Because I know it's Nike is the company.

1740
01:22:32,594 --> 01:22:34,274
Speaker 8: That kind of stuff does pop up on eBay. Though

1741
01:22:34,274 --> 01:22:36,514
Speaker 8: from time to time, if you're if you're diligent about it,

1742
01:22:37,034 --> 01:22:39,394
Speaker 8: search bench where Patriots bench, where you might.

1743
01:22:39,314 --> 01:22:41,754
Speaker 3: You might come across some It sounds like Mike might

1744
01:22:41,794 --> 01:22:43,914
Speaker 3: have a little side, little side beside this.

1745
01:22:44,154 --> 01:22:46,114
Speaker 8: No, I always, but I love like I would always.

1746
01:22:46,154 --> 01:22:48,394
Speaker 8: I'm a good ebayor for Patriots old crap. As you've

1747
01:22:48,394 --> 01:22:50,354
Speaker 8: probably seen some of the stuff I wear, and yeah,

1748
01:22:50,354 --> 01:22:52,194
Speaker 8: there's always gems that pop up on there, but I'll

1749
01:22:52,234 --> 01:22:54,674
Speaker 8: do Patriots team wear. That's always a good one.

1750
01:22:56,554 --> 01:22:58,834
Speaker 3: Because I know the label and this is team issue.

1751
01:22:59,034 --> 01:23:00,594
Speaker 6: Yeah, that might be the label.

1752
01:23:00,634 --> 01:23:02,154
Speaker 8: Then maybe they've got some.

1753
01:23:04,314 --> 01:23:10,474
Speaker 3: Special Diana from uh New Hampshire writes in about Alex

1754
01:23:10,594 --> 01:23:12,514
Speaker 3: van Pelt, he said, could it she says? Could it

1755
01:23:12,594 --> 01:23:15,674
Speaker 3: be that Alex's more intricate schemes are too difficult for

1756
01:23:15,754 --> 01:23:19,434
Speaker 3: the current players to perform? Could be the players holding

1757
01:23:19,514 --> 01:23:22,474
Speaker 3: him back? I don't think so. I don't think that

1758
01:23:22,594 --> 01:23:26,154
Speaker 3: the schemes are too difficult. If anything, they're not difficult enough. Yea.

1759
01:23:26,354 --> 01:23:30,674
Speaker 4: The again, this is just off of reputation and whatnot.

1760
01:23:31,314 --> 01:23:33,994
Speaker 4: I'm not the architect of the offense, but it's considered

1761
01:23:34,034 --> 01:23:38,914
Speaker 4: to be a pretty player friendly system, right quarterback friendly.

1762
01:23:39,034 --> 01:23:42,754
Speaker 4: I think they've used specifically that phrase, so I don't

1763
01:23:42,794 --> 01:23:44,034
Speaker 4: think that that's accurate.

1764
01:23:44,114 --> 01:23:47,474
Speaker 6: Maybe she's speaking to how like earlier in the show

1765
01:23:47,554 --> 01:23:49,794
Speaker 6: we were talking about I think it was talking about

1766
01:23:49,794 --> 01:23:52,274
Speaker 6: how creative he is and he's been kind of like

1767
01:23:52,874 --> 01:23:56,314
Speaker 6: held back where we all see it as more conservative

1768
01:23:56,434 --> 01:24:00,914
Speaker 6: and yeah, yeah, guess who's.

1769
01:24:00,674 --> 01:24:12,834
Speaker 7: Back during the songs?

1770
01:24:14,834 --> 01:24:18,594
Speaker 3: Evan, before we get into the practice, what's your opinion

1771
01:24:18,794 --> 01:24:21,554
Speaker 3: of the Patriots travel warm up suit?

1772
01:24:22,354 --> 01:24:28,474
Speaker 5: Oh uh, I'm okay, yeah, but obviously the player's creativity,

1773
01:24:28,794 --> 01:24:30,634
Speaker 5: is that what you guys are just talking about, Maybe

1774
01:24:30,714 --> 01:24:34,074
Speaker 5: that you know they're they're outfits though, you know, Yeah,

1775
01:24:34,234 --> 01:24:37,554
Speaker 5: they don't get to really show off their game day

1776
01:24:37,594 --> 01:24:39,514
Speaker 5: they do. Yeah, so I think that they're you know,

1777
01:24:39,714 --> 01:24:42,834
Speaker 5: that's uh. I've heard some grousing about that.

1778
01:24:43,034 --> 01:24:47,274
Speaker 3: Oh really from the media. Uh from our people, our people.

1779
01:24:47,154 --> 01:24:50,194
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you know, or like just like an example,

1780
01:24:50,674 --> 01:24:52,834
Speaker 5: you know, maybe they went to a big college and

1781
01:24:52,994 --> 01:24:56,394
Speaker 5: like they might wear on a Michigan Ohio state weekend.

1782
01:24:56,474 --> 01:24:58,874
Speaker 5: You know, we see a Michigan guy in a in

1783
01:24:59,154 --> 01:25:02,314
Speaker 5: Michigan's gear, and that would be good because it was optional.

1784
01:25:02,394 --> 01:25:04,594
Speaker 3: I thought they didn't have to wear the tracksuit. They could.

1785
01:25:06,074 --> 01:25:08,314
Speaker 5: I have not seen a single player not wear it,

1786
01:25:08,554 --> 01:25:09,554
Speaker 5: so I don't know.

1787
01:25:09,754 --> 01:25:12,034
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they're a lot more comfortable than wearing

1788
01:25:12,154 --> 01:25:15,394
Speaker 3: nice clothes for sure. But what do you like the

1789
01:25:15,514 --> 01:25:16,434
Speaker 3: track suit? Oh?

1790
01:25:16,514 --> 01:25:19,554
Speaker 5: I only have the hoodie. Yeah, I don't have the pants, right,

1791
01:25:20,114 --> 01:25:22,354
Speaker 5: but I do like the hoodie. Yeah, okay, and it's nice.

1792
01:25:22,714 --> 01:25:25,794
Speaker 3: You know, looking at some of the non players that

1793
01:25:25,914 --> 01:25:28,034
Speaker 3: wear the tracksuit, would you say that it's.

1794
01:25:28,194 --> 01:25:31,234
Speaker 8: Flattering non players non players?

1795
01:25:32,154 --> 01:25:35,114
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever looked at it like that.

1796
01:25:37,794 --> 01:25:39,194
Speaker 5: I don't know how to respond to that.

1797
01:25:39,394 --> 01:25:43,514
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, okay, sure, all right, you do you think

1798
01:25:43,554 --> 01:25:46,074
Speaker 3: it's flattering? Why not I think they look like they're

1799
01:25:46,074 --> 01:25:48,234
Speaker 3: wearing pajamas. Okay, it's not a great look.

1800
01:25:48,754 --> 01:25:52,594
Speaker 5: I can hear that anyway, So let's get back to

1801
01:25:52,714 --> 01:25:58,954
Speaker 5: practice anyway. Yeah, yeah, So just a few updates, nothing major.

1802
01:25:59,594 --> 01:26:03,034
Speaker 5: Jamichael Hasty back at Patriots practice today. He missed yesterday

1803
01:26:03,074 --> 01:26:06,994
Speaker 5: with the personal matter, so still no Kyle Dugger he

1804
01:26:07,154 --> 01:26:09,834
Speaker 5: remains out with an ankle injury and was not at

1805
01:26:09,874 --> 01:26:12,074
Speaker 5: practice again today. Did see him in the locker room,

1806
01:26:12,154 --> 01:26:17,514
Speaker 5: but was not at practice, so he remains out. Cushion

1807
01:26:17,554 --> 01:26:20,474
Speaker 5: Ellis is still there even though he was listed as

1808
01:26:20,514 --> 01:26:23,754
Speaker 5: a d NP. He's still out at practice in a uniform.

1809
01:26:23,914 --> 01:26:28,034
Speaker 5: So Dugger the only absence, and Caleb Jones wasn't there

1810
01:26:28,354 --> 01:26:31,954
Speaker 5: from the practice squad, but Douger the only absence from

1811
01:26:32,034 --> 01:26:33,554
Speaker 5: the the active roster.

1812
01:26:34,034 --> 01:26:36,034
Speaker 4: And Caleb Jones was one of the practice players of

1813
01:26:36,034 --> 01:26:38,554
Speaker 4: the week last week two weeks A very tall No,

1814
01:26:38,674 --> 01:26:42,914
Speaker 4: I know, I know he's you know, Jonathan Ogden, but

1815
01:26:43,074 --> 01:26:45,794
Speaker 4: he was like, I'm not I didn't misremember that, right.

1816
01:26:45,874 --> 01:26:48,154
Speaker 4: He was one of the recent practice players of the

1817
01:26:48,194 --> 01:26:51,514
Speaker 4: week after the you know, heading into the Jets game. Yes, right,

1818
01:26:52,714 --> 01:26:54,874
Speaker 4: So that's weird that he wouldn't be I I hope

1819
01:26:54,914 --> 01:26:55,434
Speaker 4: he didn't.

1820
01:26:55,194 --> 01:27:03,314
Speaker 3: Get hurt, all right, So any you know interesting things

1821
01:27:03,394 --> 01:27:07,514
Speaker 3: that you saw today, people lining up in different places.

1822
01:27:07,394 --> 01:27:10,594
Speaker 5: Or well, well, the line stayed the same as what

1823
01:27:10,714 --> 01:27:13,594
Speaker 5: we saw yesterday with an when who at left guard.

1824
01:27:13,954 --> 01:27:16,794
Speaker 5: And he basically talked today in a scrum in the

1825
01:27:16,874 --> 01:27:20,114
Speaker 5: locker room and more or less confirmed that that's where

1826
01:27:20,154 --> 01:27:24,994
Speaker 5: he was yesterday for practice. And uh he answered the

1827
01:27:25,034 --> 01:27:29,154
Speaker 5: questuestions about as judicially as he possibly could, but you

1828
01:27:29,234 --> 01:27:32,794
Speaker 5: do you know, mentally he said that he doesn't feel

1829
01:27:32,834 --> 01:27:35,514
Speaker 5: like he's playing very well or up to his standard.

1830
01:27:35,594 --> 01:27:37,794
Speaker 5: And I think you can read between the lines at

1831
01:27:37,834 --> 01:27:40,914
Speaker 5: all the moving around inside outside now to the left side,

1832
01:27:41,594 --> 01:27:44,994
Speaker 5: it might be affecting him somewhat. Even if it's not

1833
01:27:45,474 --> 01:27:48,634
Speaker 5: physically affecting him, maybe mentally it's just been a lot.

1834
01:27:48,834 --> 01:27:51,474
Speaker 5: It's been a whirlwind of a season for him, so

1835
01:27:51,594 --> 01:27:53,314
Speaker 5: he doesn't feel like he's played very well.

1836
01:27:53,514 --> 01:27:56,554
Speaker 3: And that's part of kind of you know, I don't

1837
01:27:56,634 --> 01:27:58,954
Speaker 3: say went out of his way, but was certain to

1838
01:27:59,554 --> 01:28:02,354
Speaker 3: tell everybody today that Mike and When is our best player.

1839
01:28:02,594 --> 01:28:05,714
Speaker 4: Yeah on the line, I totally agree, Fred, And that

1840
01:28:05,994 --> 01:28:08,194
Speaker 4: to me adds context of those comments exactly.

1841
01:28:08,554 --> 01:28:11,514
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we're trying to pump him up. Come on, Mike, Yeah, yeah,

1842
01:28:11,514 --> 01:28:12,514
Speaker 3: we get it, we get it.

1843
01:28:12,794 --> 01:28:14,954
Speaker 4: You haven't put you in a great spot, but yeah,

1844
01:28:14,994 --> 01:28:16,994
Speaker 4: the best we got, right, that's why you were asking

1845
01:28:17,034 --> 01:28:17,914
Speaker 4: you to do so much.

1846
01:28:17,954 --> 01:28:20,234
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think that's a fair read on it.

1847
01:28:20,354 --> 01:28:23,274
Speaker 5: You know, today again we saw Laden Robinson and at

1848
01:28:23,354 --> 01:28:26,794
Speaker 5: right guard and Michael Jordan out of the starting five.

1849
01:28:26,874 --> 01:28:30,394
Speaker 5: It seems like as of right now, and I understand

1850
01:28:30,474 --> 01:28:32,954
Speaker 5: the Jordan's piece of it. I I felt like his

1851
01:28:33,074 --> 01:28:36,154
Speaker 5: tape has dropped off pretty significantly over the last couple

1852
01:28:36,234 --> 01:28:38,154
Speaker 5: of weeks. And I can understand wanting to go with

1853
01:28:38,234 --> 01:28:40,634
Speaker 5: the younger players that you see as a part of

1854
01:28:40,714 --> 01:28:43,914
Speaker 5: your future potentially in there. But you feel for on Winno,

1855
01:28:44,074 --> 01:28:45,834
Speaker 5: you do? I mean, I look, he's getting paid, so

1856
01:28:45,834 --> 01:28:47,754
Speaker 5: I don't feel too bad for him, but I feel

1857
01:28:47,834 --> 01:28:50,594
Speaker 5: for him in terms of his performance that it's obviously

1858
01:28:50,754 --> 01:28:52,634
Speaker 5: impacting him by moving around the line.

1859
01:28:52,954 --> 01:28:55,914
Speaker 4: So Michael Jordan out of the starting five? Who had

1860
01:28:55,954 --> 01:28:56,474
Speaker 4: ever thought that?

1861
01:28:56,754 --> 01:28:56,914
Speaker 3: Right?

1862
01:28:57,114 --> 01:28:57,314
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1863
01:28:58,114 --> 01:29:01,434
Speaker 3: So the team this is now their third out of

1864
01:29:01,514 --> 01:29:04,394
Speaker 3: four weeks on the road. Yes, you feel it affecting

1865
01:29:04,474 --> 01:29:07,154
Speaker 3: the media? Are they wearing down a little bit? You know,

1866
01:29:07,314 --> 01:29:08,834
Speaker 3: getting a little tired, grumpy.

1867
01:29:09,114 --> 01:29:12,114
Speaker 5: Perhaps it's it's a tough stretch and then it's actually

1868
01:29:12,154 --> 01:29:14,274
Speaker 5: three or four on the road because I say, yeah,

1869
01:29:14,394 --> 01:29:17,954
Speaker 5: oh yeah, sorry, host, don't listen. Uh yeah, it's a

1870
01:29:18,034 --> 01:29:20,034
Speaker 5: it's a tough full stretch here. You know, you gotta

1871
01:29:20,114 --> 01:29:21,794
Speaker 5: you gotta be on your p's and q's. You know

1872
01:29:21,834 --> 01:29:24,234
Speaker 5: you gotta get your sleep. Yeah out too much on

1873
01:29:24,314 --> 01:29:24,794
Speaker 5: Saturday night.

1874
01:29:24,874 --> 01:29:27,434
Speaker 3: Even on pack do they just keep the suitcase like I.

1875
01:29:27,474 --> 01:29:29,674
Speaker 5: Can't speak to that. I unpacked. I don't know about you,

1876
01:29:29,834 --> 01:29:33,394
Speaker 5: but I unpacked myself. But I know I think that

1877
01:29:34,114 --> 01:29:36,834
Speaker 5: yesterday we had Drake May you know, at the podium

1878
01:29:36,954 --> 01:29:39,634
Speaker 5: and there's maybe a tiny little bit of juice about

1879
01:29:39,634 --> 01:29:42,274
Speaker 5: this being against Caleb Williams, and I do feel like

1880
01:29:42,354 --> 01:29:45,194
Speaker 5: there's a little bit of that going on for Drake

1881
01:29:45,234 --> 01:29:47,674
Speaker 5: at least, that you were picked ahead of me, and

1882
01:29:47,834 --> 01:29:50,754
Speaker 5: you know, everybody thought you were the consensus number one guy,

1883
01:29:50,954 --> 01:29:53,194
Speaker 5: and now here's an opportunity to go ahead to head.

1884
01:29:53,554 --> 01:29:57,114
Speaker 3: Getting back to the media, it is flu season.

1885
01:29:57,354 --> 01:29:58,434
Speaker 5: I just keep on trying it.

1886
01:29:58,874 --> 01:30:01,434
Speaker 3: Have to know how many of the media have gotten

1887
01:30:01,474 --> 01:30:04,234
Speaker 3: their flu shot, because I hear a lot of coughing

1888
01:30:04,674 --> 01:30:06,954
Speaker 3: and sneezing going on in that press box.

1889
01:30:07,434 --> 01:30:10,074
Speaker 5: It's it's alarming, it is alarming. I'm with you on

1890
01:30:10,194 --> 01:30:12,634
Speaker 5: this one hundred percent. And that's why I liked last

1891
01:30:12,634 --> 01:30:14,674
Speaker 5: week in Nashville. We were kind of sitting in our

1892
01:30:14,714 --> 01:30:19,434
Speaker 5: own little area, and I prefer that for this exact reason.

1893
01:30:20,114 --> 01:30:22,554
Speaker 5: You know, keep your germs to yourself. Yeah, I hear you.

1894
01:30:22,754 --> 01:30:25,954
Speaker 5: That's a good point. So I maybe we can all

1895
01:30:25,994 --> 01:30:29,314
Speaker 5: go up to the CVS and Patriot Place after media.

1896
01:30:30,194 --> 01:30:32,834
Speaker 3: Maybe Stacy James should offer flu shots in the media

1897
01:30:32,874 --> 01:30:34,794
Speaker 3: work have a nurse on hand.

1898
01:30:34,874 --> 01:30:37,194
Speaker 5: That's or just that's a great idea, or like the.

1899
01:30:39,794 --> 01:30:48,914
Speaker 3: Cookie. Yeah, a healthy a healthy media is a happy Remember.

1900
01:30:50,754 --> 01:30:53,194
Speaker 5: Remember we used to have to get the the COVID

1901
01:30:53,274 --> 01:30:54,474
Speaker 5: test and the modular out.

1902
01:30:55,434 --> 01:30:56,474
Speaker 3: Maybe I brought that back.

1903
01:30:56,834 --> 01:30:58,154
Speaker 8: Yeah every day remember that.

1904
01:30:58,914 --> 01:30:59,234
Speaker 5: There you go.

1905
01:30:59,514 --> 01:31:00,154
Speaker 3: That was awful.

1906
01:31:00,314 --> 01:31:02,674
Speaker 8: Stopped by this trailer real quick and let some ladies

1907
01:31:02,714 --> 01:31:03,434
Speaker 8: swap my nose.

1908
01:31:03,634 --> 01:31:06,914
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, then we all came back positive. It was

1909
01:31:06,954 --> 01:31:10,514
Speaker 5: all it was all false false positive. Yeah, the whole,

1910
01:31:10,594 --> 01:31:13,714
Speaker 5: the whole, like you know, yeah whatever it's called, sample

1911
01:31:13,794 --> 01:31:16,074
Speaker 5: got messed up or whatever on you.

1912
01:31:16,114 --> 01:31:18,034
Speaker 8: When that happened, and I got a text from Cecily,

1913
01:31:18,034 --> 01:31:19,634
Speaker 8: who's like, you need to leave the building right now,

1914
01:31:20,234 --> 01:31:20,434
Speaker 8: like what.

1915
01:31:20,874 --> 01:31:22,794
Speaker 5: I was driving home and I got a got a

1916
01:31:22,834 --> 01:31:26,114
Speaker 5: call from Stacy and almost like staring off the Yeah.

1917
01:31:26,554 --> 01:31:28,554
Speaker 3: So it was the indie game. We came back from

1918
01:31:28,594 --> 01:31:31,314
Speaker 3: Indianapolis and we all had tested positive and I was like,

1919
01:31:31,554 --> 01:31:34,754
Speaker 3: there's no freaking way, yeah, and so I said, we

1920
01:31:34,954 --> 01:31:36,914
Speaker 3: have to do retests, and they brought in a crew

1921
01:31:36,994 --> 01:31:40,274
Speaker 3: from New Jersey and they did two different tests than

1922
01:31:40,314 --> 01:31:43,194
Speaker 3: they did there and we were all fine. To the bottom.

1923
01:31:46,514 --> 01:31:49,314
Speaker 3: I refuse to believe that we all got COVID at

1924
01:31:49,354 --> 01:31:49,994
Speaker 3: the same time.

1925
01:31:50,194 --> 01:31:52,874
Speaker 5: Yeah, we all had a group text going with because

1926
01:31:52,874 --> 01:31:55,074
Speaker 5: I was external media at that point, and we all

1927
01:31:55,114 --> 01:31:57,074
Speaker 5: had a group text going and I think it was

1928
01:31:57,434 --> 01:31:59,274
Speaker 5: I believe it was Andrew who was like leading the

1929
01:31:59,394 --> 01:32:01,274
Speaker 5: charge because we were we all wouldn't have been able

1930
01:32:01,274 --> 01:32:03,954
Speaker 5: to come to work, you know, and like that's our livelihood.

1931
01:32:03,994 --> 01:32:07,274
Speaker 5: So yeah, and so we were all like we're all fine.

1932
01:32:07,314 --> 01:32:08,274
Speaker 5: Like I don't understand.

1933
01:32:08,394 --> 01:32:11,274
Speaker 3: So I remember that goodness for that all right. Yeah, uh,

1934
01:32:11,394 --> 01:32:21,514
Speaker 3: it is that time of the week, so catch us up, Okay,

1935
01:32:21,714 --> 01:32:22,154
Speaker 3: I say.

1936
01:32:22,514 --> 01:32:26,034
Speaker 4: Preview at the very beginning of the show was a

1937
01:32:26,234 --> 01:32:32,514
Speaker 4: pretty strong week for everyone for Evan, so it was Mike,

1938
01:32:33,914 --> 01:32:39,314
Speaker 4: Evan and Paul twelve and three, Wow, Fred eleven and four,

1939
01:32:39,594 --> 01:32:42,314
Speaker 4: Alex ten and five. So everybody did really well with

1940
01:32:42,394 --> 01:32:46,954
Speaker 4: the regular picks this week with the spread otherwise known

1941
01:32:46,994 --> 01:32:50,714
Speaker 4: as where you Separate the Men from the Boys, Mike

1942
01:32:51,034 --> 01:32:55,634
Speaker 4: and Paul eleven and four, Wow, Fred ten and five,

1943
01:32:56,514 --> 01:33:01,034
Speaker 4: Evan eight and seven, and Alex six and nine.

1944
01:33:01,074 --> 01:33:03,554
Speaker 5: I don't remember, I understand how I do so good

1945
01:33:03,634 --> 01:33:06,114
Speaker 5: had to straight up and then the spread, I'm so bad,

1946
01:33:06,354 --> 01:33:06,674
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1947
01:33:06,874 --> 01:33:08,794
Speaker 3: So here are the it's tougher.

1948
01:33:08,954 --> 01:33:13,594
Speaker 4: The overall is Paul is eighty nine and forty nine,

1949
01:33:13,714 --> 01:33:18,794
Speaker 4: Evans eighty eight and fifty, Alex eighty seven and fifty one,

1950
01:33:18,994 --> 01:33:21,994
Speaker 4: Fred eighty six and fifty two and poop Emoji Mike

1951
01:33:22,234 --> 01:33:24,154
Speaker 4: eighty threety.

1952
01:33:23,434 --> 01:33:27,274
Speaker 5: Three geez okay with the spread You're awful.

1953
01:33:28,154 --> 01:33:31,154
Speaker 4: Fred gets the crown seventy seven, fifty eight and three,

1954
01:33:32,234 --> 01:33:37,474
Speaker 4: followed by Mike seventy five, sixty and three, Paul's strong

1955
01:33:37,594 --> 01:33:41,994
Speaker 4: eleven and four showing I lose the poop emoji this week,

1956
01:33:42,034 --> 01:33:45,834
Speaker 4: and I'm seventy two, sixty three and three, Evans sixty nine,

1957
01:33:45,914 --> 01:33:50,074
Speaker 4: sixty six and three, and poop Emoji Alex sixty eight

1958
01:33:50,234 --> 01:33:51,274
Speaker 4: sixty seven and three.

1959
01:33:51,394 --> 01:33:52,754
Speaker 3: Careful though she edits.

1960
01:33:52,554 --> 01:33:53,394
Speaker 12: The name right.

1961
01:33:54,274 --> 01:33:55,994
Speaker 6: I don't do the poop emoji graphic.

1962
01:33:56,434 --> 01:34:00,674
Speaker 3: No, that's out. You have close write out of which

1963
01:34:00,674 --> 01:34:01,754
Speaker 3: who do I send those two?

1964
01:34:02,074 --> 01:34:03,514
Speaker 4: I usually send those out on Thursday.

1965
01:34:03,874 --> 01:34:09,874
Speaker 3: I guess send them to Nancy and Jules she I'll

1966
01:34:09,954 --> 01:34:12,514
Speaker 3: be working on it. Okay, I'll send it. Okay, I'll

1967
01:34:12,554 --> 01:34:14,874
Speaker 3: send them to both of them. Mike, you're tasked with that.

1968
01:34:15,034 --> 01:34:16,954
Speaker 3: Make sure, because you know I'll forget in the half hour.

1969
01:34:17,394 --> 01:34:19,194
Speaker 8: No, Nancy is my mom's name. I won't forget that,

1970
01:34:19,994 --> 01:34:20,354
Speaker 8: all right.

1971
01:34:20,474 --> 01:34:23,274
Speaker 6: My mom's birthday today, Happy.

1972
01:34:23,074 --> 01:34:24,153
Speaker 8: Birthday, birthday?

1973
01:34:24,594 --> 01:34:29,354
Speaker 3: Thank you Alice his mom? All right, all right now tonight,

1974
01:34:29,354 --> 01:34:32,474
Speaker 3: I gotta hurry tonight. We do have to hurry. Feeling

1975
01:34:32,474 --> 01:34:35,554
Speaker 3: a little dangerous, you have to hurry. We really don't.

1976
01:34:35,834 --> 01:34:40,514
Speaker 3: That gyro is sitting well, it's a let me. I

1977
01:34:40,594 --> 01:34:43,754
Speaker 3: might have to get out anyway. Eight fifteen tonight on

1978
01:34:43,954 --> 01:34:47,394
Speaker 3: Prime Video, it's the four and five Bengals at the

1979
01:34:47,634 --> 01:34:50,434
Speaker 3: six and three Ravens. Big Game, Big Game.

1980
01:34:50,314 --> 01:34:50,994
Speaker 5: Fun Game Tonight.

1981
01:34:51,194 --> 01:34:55,474
Speaker 3: Ravens by six looks like no T Higgins again.

1982
01:34:55,554 --> 01:34:59,714
Speaker 5: You can watch this one on the Amazon. You know

1983
01:34:59,834 --> 01:35:02,034
Speaker 5: what I might if you have a button on your

1984
01:35:02,074 --> 01:35:03,594
Speaker 5: mote that probably says Prime.

1985
01:35:03,874 --> 01:35:06,034
Speaker 3: Right. I know how to watch it.

1986
01:35:07,234 --> 01:35:10,914
Speaker 4: I just don't until they invent the way to change

1987
01:35:11,074 --> 01:35:12,794
Speaker 4: channels during commercials.

1988
01:35:12,834 --> 01:35:14,634
Speaker 3: Why what are you going back and forth on tonight?

1989
01:35:14,714 --> 01:35:19,754
Speaker 4: Could be anything Bruins Game, The Bachelor, no Thursdays?

1990
01:35:19,794 --> 01:35:20,874
Speaker 3: What's on Thursday nights?

1991
01:35:20,994 --> 01:35:24,234
Speaker 5: Matt Locke back a new one?

1992
01:35:24,434 --> 01:35:25,234
Speaker 3: What are you? One hundred?

1993
01:35:25,474 --> 01:35:25,514
Speaker 7: No?

1994
01:35:27,234 --> 01:35:32,314
Speaker 3: With Cathy Bags like years seventy something. It's actually her

1995
01:35:32,434 --> 01:35:35,594
Speaker 3: Last Chicago p D. The Last Chicago p D is

1996
01:35:35,594 --> 01:35:44,194
Speaker 3: a good show. No One network. People still watching the network.

1997
01:35:44,274 --> 01:35:46,034
Speaker 5: I like Fire. Fire is fine.

1998
01:35:47,874 --> 01:35:49,474
Speaker 3: I don't know why you have to make fun of yourself.

1999
01:35:49,474 --> 01:35:52,594
Speaker 3: The Ravens by six, I like, go ahead.

2000
01:35:52,394 --> 01:35:56,194
Speaker 8: Michael, So I'm gonna take. I'm gonna take I have to, alright,

2001
01:35:57,034 --> 01:35:58,914
Speaker 8: I'm going to take Baltimore to win, but I'm going

2002
01:35:58,954 --> 01:36:01,714
Speaker 8: to take those points for Cincinnati. I think they've been scoring.

2003
01:36:01,754 --> 01:36:03,874
Speaker 8: I think it'll be a close divisional game on Thursday night.

2004
01:36:03,994 --> 01:36:06,074
Speaker 8: So I'll take Baltimore, but I'll take the points for Cincy.

2005
01:36:06,154 --> 01:36:08,274
Speaker 6: Please the same way, because Mike's been doing well.

2006
01:36:09,034 --> 01:36:14,674
Speaker 5: Oh look at copy place. Lamar Jackson m VP of

2007
01:36:14,674 --> 01:36:18,474
Speaker 5: the league again, I'm the last. I'm taking Lamar, but

2008
01:36:18,634 --> 01:36:20,714
Speaker 5: it's the Hemmy Award every week. But I am going

2009
01:36:20,794 --> 01:36:22,674
Speaker 5: to take the points as well. For the Bengals short

2010
01:36:22,714 --> 01:36:25,474
Speaker 5: week division game, I just think they got this cover

2011
01:36:25,594 --> 01:36:25,954
Speaker 5: the spread.

2012
01:36:26,634 --> 01:36:29,954
Speaker 4: Yeah, Baltimore's defense played really well last week, which means

2013
01:36:30,554 --> 01:36:33,114
Speaker 4: if you're following the trends, they'll probably struggle this week.

2014
01:36:33,314 --> 01:36:35,274
Speaker 4: So I will do the same thing Baltimore, but I'll

2015
01:36:35,314 --> 01:36:35,794
Speaker 4: take the six.

2016
01:36:35,994 --> 01:36:41,554
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody's doing the same thing, all right. Sunday at

2017
01:36:41,714 --> 01:36:46,314
Speaker 3: nine thirty, we're back overseas, this time in Germany in Munich.

2018
01:36:46,954 --> 01:36:49,714
Speaker 3: The two and seven Giants are at the two and

2019
01:36:49,914 --> 01:36:50,834
Speaker 3: seven Panthers.

2020
01:36:52,154 --> 01:36:56,354
Speaker 4: Nothing builds the game globally like this matchup. The Giants

2021
01:36:56,394 --> 01:36:57,274
Speaker 4: by six and a half.

2022
01:36:57,514 --> 01:37:00,034
Speaker 8: Six and a half, geez, that's a lot.

2023
01:37:00,394 --> 01:37:00,634
Speaker 7: It is.

2024
01:37:02,794 --> 01:37:04,474
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm not sure how to play this one. That

2025
01:37:04,634 --> 01:37:06,234
Speaker 8: is a lot of points. So I'm gonna take the Giants,

2026
01:37:06,274 --> 01:37:09,674
Speaker 8: but I'll give the points. I'll give the points for Carolina.

2027
01:37:09,714 --> 01:37:11,794
Speaker 8: I think it'll be close between two bad teams.

2028
01:37:13,394 --> 01:37:16,073
Speaker 6: I guess I'm just gonna take the Giants, double Giants.

2029
01:37:17,474 --> 01:37:18,994
Speaker 5: I'm gonna do the same thing as dude. I think

2030
01:37:19,114 --> 01:37:21,674
Speaker 5: both these teams are too bad to separate themselves from

2031
01:37:21,714 --> 01:37:23,554
Speaker 5: one another. So I'm gonna take the Giants, but I'll

2032
01:37:23,594 --> 01:37:24,634
Speaker 5: take Carolina to cover.

2033
01:37:25,874 --> 01:37:28,554
Speaker 4: I thought about doing that, but I think there's a

2034
01:37:28,674 --> 01:37:32,794
Speaker 4: chance the Giants defense could really uh bog down Bryce Young.

2035
01:37:32,914 --> 01:37:34,754
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna I'm gonna lay the points. I'm gonna

2036
01:37:34,754 --> 01:37:36,434
Speaker 4: go with Alex, take the Giants both ways.

2037
01:37:36,554 --> 01:37:39,354
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is where the Sharps are gonna get you.

2038
01:37:40,354 --> 01:37:43,354
Speaker 3: So they're putting up a false flag here. Oh yeah,

2039
01:37:43,514 --> 01:37:46,954
Speaker 3: they're they're making it so that you know, Oh, I

2040
01:37:46,994 --> 01:37:50,113
Speaker 3: think the Giants are gonna win. But with those points,

2041
01:37:50,354 --> 01:37:52,314
Speaker 3: I'll get you know, they'll get money coming in on

2042
01:37:52,394 --> 01:37:54,794
Speaker 3: the Panthers. What they know is that the Panthers are

2043
01:37:54,834 --> 01:37:58,194
Speaker 3: gonna win outright, So they're gonna take everybody's money this week.

2044
01:37:58,714 --> 01:38:00,154
Speaker 3: Panthers win this game outright.

2045
01:38:00,514 --> 01:38:03,074
Speaker 8: Shoot, okay, shut already got it wrong.

2046
01:38:03,834 --> 01:38:07,474
Speaker 3: One o'clock at Fox. Oh yeah, one o'clock on CBS.

2047
01:38:07,554 --> 01:38:09,994
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. One o'clock on CBS. The seven and two

2048
01:38:10,194 --> 01:38:14,394
Speaker 3: Bills are at the four and five Colts, Buffalo by four.

2049
01:38:15,914 --> 01:38:20,874
Speaker 8: All right, Flocoh yeah, I mean I like Flocco, but

2050
01:38:20,954 --> 01:38:23,754
Speaker 8: I can't take them at home against the buff I'm

2051
01:38:23,794 --> 01:38:25,154
Speaker 8: gonna take Buffalo. I'll lay the points.

2052
01:38:25,274 --> 01:38:28,834
Speaker 5: Please Buffalo, Buffalo, Buffalo rolls.

2053
01:38:34,074 --> 01:38:36,034
Speaker 4: I will take Buffalo, but I'll take the points. I

2054
01:38:36,114 --> 01:38:39,434
Speaker 4: say that Buffalo wins by a field goal? Why is

2055
01:38:39,514 --> 01:38:40,914
Speaker 4: that because Flacco?

2056
01:38:41,914 --> 01:38:43,194
Speaker 3: What you believe in Flacco?

2057
01:38:43,314 --> 01:38:45,514
Speaker 4: I think they have a chance to score some points.

2058
01:38:45,554 --> 01:38:48,234
Speaker 4: Most games that he's played over the last two years,

2059
01:38:48,474 --> 01:38:50,114
Speaker 4: for the team that he's played for, has been able

2060
01:38:50,154 --> 01:38:53,234
Speaker 4: to score. Last week was an exception. I thought Minnesota

2061
01:38:53,634 --> 01:38:56,834
Speaker 4: might do that to him, and they did. But I

2062
01:38:56,914 --> 01:38:59,594
Speaker 4: think otherwise he throws the ball still at a pretty

2063
01:38:59,634 --> 01:39:01,634
Speaker 4: high level. And I don't think Buffalo's defense is great.

2064
01:39:01,834 --> 01:39:05,154
Speaker 3: Yeah, the window is closing, but it keeps getting propped

2065
01:39:05,194 --> 01:39:07,834
Speaker 3: up by these lousy teams. Josh Allen, I'm gonna go

2066
01:39:07,954 --> 01:39:10,954
Speaker 3: getting propped up by Josh. I'm gonna go with bills

2067
01:39:11,034 --> 01:39:15,113
Speaker 3: both ways. It's not shut yet. Fox at one o'clock,

2068
01:39:15,354 --> 01:39:17,754
Speaker 3: the six and two Vikings are at the two and

2069
01:39:17,914 --> 01:39:19,114
Speaker 3: seven Jaguar. I like that.

2070
01:39:19,154 --> 01:39:22,314
Speaker 4: We're going in order on my sheet today, Minnesota by

2071
01:39:22,394 --> 01:39:23,034
Speaker 4: four and a half.

2072
01:39:23,914 --> 01:39:25,674
Speaker 8: That is that Mac Jones his music?

2073
01:39:26,034 --> 01:39:27,514
Speaker 3: I think so is he playing?

2074
01:39:27,994 --> 01:39:29,674
Speaker 8: I mean, I know that sounds like the latest scuttle

2075
01:39:29,714 --> 01:39:33,834
Speaker 8: Bud Trevor is that practice today, But I'm likely to play.

2076
01:39:34,394 --> 01:39:36,034
Speaker 3: That's glad you guys shared that with me.

2077
01:39:36,474 --> 01:39:39,354
Speaker 8: That's got Minnesota written all over it. I'll take Minnesota.

2078
01:39:39,394 --> 01:39:40,194
Speaker 8: I will lay the points.

2079
01:39:40,754 --> 01:39:46,874
Speaker 6: Minnesota, Minnesota, you bitcher, Evan.

2080
01:39:48,234 --> 01:39:51,554
Speaker 5: I am also going to take the Vikings both ways.

2081
01:39:51,594 --> 01:39:54,794
Speaker 5: I just think the Jaguars are are falling off here.

2082
01:39:55,194 --> 01:39:55,394
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2083
01:39:55,474 --> 01:39:58,514
Speaker 4: I was actually looking at this as the Fred Kirsh

2084
01:39:58,594 --> 01:40:01,194
Speaker 4: upset special, and I'm not lying at all, but I

2085
01:40:01,234 --> 01:40:03,034
Speaker 4: didn't know that Lawrence wasn't going to play.

2086
01:40:03,114 --> 01:40:06,194
Speaker 3: I will take Minnesota both ways. Yeah, me too, Minnesota

2087
01:40:06,234 --> 01:40:11,914
Speaker 3: both ways. Skull CBS one o'clock, five and four, Broncos.

2088
01:40:13,074 --> 01:40:17,194
Speaker 3: Something must have happened, Broncos. The networks in a row.

2089
01:40:17,354 --> 01:40:21,034
Speaker 3: They're not at home. I can't believe it. Fred. If

2090
01:40:21,074 --> 01:40:23,914
Speaker 3: there's another team that gets that advantage all the time,

2091
01:40:24,034 --> 01:40:26,994
Speaker 3: it's the Chiefs, and they are at home at eight.

2092
01:40:27,154 --> 01:40:29,954
Speaker 4: No, Kansas City by seven and a half.

2093
01:40:29,914 --> 01:40:31,394
Speaker 8: Seven and a half. I like that a little better

2094
01:40:31,434 --> 01:40:34,634
Speaker 8: than what's on my sheet. Yeah, I'm going to continue

2095
01:40:34,634 --> 01:40:38,474
Speaker 8: to take Kansas City. I got burned last week taking

2096
01:40:38,514 --> 01:40:40,354
Speaker 8: the points, laying the points with them, but I'm gonna

2097
01:40:40,394 --> 01:40:41,794
Speaker 8: lay them again. I'll lay the seven and a half

2098
01:40:41,794 --> 01:40:42,634
Speaker 8: against Denver.

2099
01:40:43,274 --> 01:40:45,834
Speaker 6: I'll split it. I'll take Kansas City to win and

2100
01:40:45,994 --> 01:40:47,274
Speaker 6: I'll take Denver to cover.

2101
01:40:47,874 --> 01:40:50,234
Speaker 5: This is what a sixteen game winning streak right now.

2102
01:40:50,474 --> 01:40:53,514
Speaker 5: I want to say for the Chiefs over the Broncos.

2103
01:40:53,754 --> 01:40:55,954
Speaker 5: I think it continues, and I think the Chiefs role

2104
01:40:56,034 --> 01:40:56,874
Speaker 5: I have both ways.

2105
01:40:58,394 --> 01:41:00,354
Speaker 4: I will take Kansas City to win, but I'll take

2106
01:41:00,434 --> 01:41:02,874
Speaker 4: the points because Mike, what do I do Trent's baby

2107
01:41:03,034 --> 01:41:07,514
Speaker 4: follow then they haven't really covered very often, folks. This

2108
01:41:07,714 --> 01:41:08,354
Speaker 4: is your upsets.

2109
01:41:08,394 --> 01:41:13,634
Speaker 3: Fortune favors the bold Broncos outright. They end the streak

2110
01:41:13,674 --> 01:41:17,154
Speaker 3: for the Chiefs and Patriots fans can breathe a little

2111
01:41:17,234 --> 01:41:20,954
Speaker 3: easier because they're twenty one games, petty little people. They

2112
01:41:21,074 --> 01:41:26,714
Speaker 3: care about these things intact that foot ball, and I

2113
01:41:26,794 --> 01:41:27,234
Speaker 3: did it for you.

2114
01:41:27,994 --> 01:41:30,034
Speaker 8: It's like you guys have been working together twenty years.

2115
01:41:31,034 --> 01:41:35,394
Speaker 3: Broncos outright, one o'clock on Fox six and three Falcons

2116
01:41:35,674 --> 01:41:37,314
Speaker 3: are at the two and seven Saints.

2117
01:41:37,674 --> 01:41:39,874
Speaker 8: Oh Jesus is, Oh gotta be bigger.

2118
01:41:39,994 --> 01:41:41,234
Speaker 4: This has gotta be bigger than my three and a

2119
01:41:41,234 --> 01:41:43,034
Speaker 4: half and lots of it is favored by three and

2120
01:41:43,074 --> 01:41:43,354
Speaker 4: a half.

2121
01:41:43,554 --> 01:41:47,514
Speaker 8: Just three and a half, Bob, jeez uh, that's nuts,

2122
01:41:47,554 --> 01:41:49,354
Speaker 8: not a lot. I'll take Atlanta and I'll lay those

2123
01:41:49,394 --> 01:41:52,154
Speaker 8: points for the spiraling Saints.

2124
01:41:53,634 --> 01:41:55,834
Speaker 6: Good literation there, same thing.

2125
01:41:57,354 --> 01:41:59,514
Speaker 5: The Saints do have the Pope on their side, and

2126
01:41:59,834 --> 01:42:04,314
Speaker 5: you guys have seen that, butstairs about their divine intervention there.

2127
01:42:04,394 --> 01:42:06,394
Speaker 5: And you usually do get a boost the week after

2128
01:42:06,514 --> 01:42:09,554
Speaker 5: you fire the coach, right, that's usually the weekdayack to

2129
01:42:09,674 --> 01:42:12,194
Speaker 5: it that you play well. So I'm gonna take Atlanta.

2130
01:42:12,474 --> 01:42:14,514
Speaker 5: But I'm going to say that it's a field goal game.

2131
01:42:14,674 --> 01:42:18,354
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's also a really really bitter division rival

2132
01:42:18,354 --> 01:42:21,114
Speaker 4: they see each other. I'm going to take Atlanta both ways. However,

2133
01:42:21,674 --> 01:42:25,114
Speaker 4: I think that they completely if you look statistically, they

2134
01:42:25,274 --> 01:42:28,154
Speaker 4: dominated that game against the Panthers last week and still

2135
01:42:28,234 --> 01:42:31,514
Speaker 4: found a way to lose. Noah Lave, which you know

2136
01:42:31,674 --> 01:42:33,514
Speaker 4: fred I shared with you. I don't know if you know,

2137
01:42:33,594 --> 01:42:36,714
Speaker 4: but that's two concussions this year and four for his career.

2138
01:42:37,314 --> 01:42:39,714
Speaker 4: I don't know about you, Mike. He's done, but I

2139
01:42:40,314 --> 01:42:42,474
Speaker 4: don't feel comfortable watching him play football.

2140
01:42:42,474 --> 01:42:44,514
Speaker 3: What if he were a concussion, I don't.

2141
01:42:44,554 --> 01:42:47,274
Speaker 4: I don't feel about comfortable about it, and I think

2142
01:42:47,314 --> 01:42:50,034
Speaker 4: that the doctors should not allow it to be his decision.

2143
01:42:50,514 --> 01:42:53,154
Speaker 4: Take it out of his NFL should step in, and

2144
01:42:53,234 --> 01:42:54,634
Speaker 4: then I'll take Atlanta both ways.

2145
01:42:54,954 --> 01:42:59,194
Speaker 3: Yeah, the big houses really do take into consideration the

2146
01:42:59,314 --> 01:43:01,394
Speaker 3: division rival the big house houses.

2147
01:43:01,394 --> 01:43:03,874
Speaker 8: I heard that one before, the parlance.

2148
01:43:03,754 --> 01:43:09,194
Speaker 3: The big house, who are you taking? But it's like MGM, exactly, Yeah,

2149
01:43:10,274 --> 01:43:15,594
Speaker 3: I will go with the fount I'll go with you know,

2150
01:43:15,714 --> 01:43:20,114
Speaker 3: the brick and mortar casinos, not not like the network

2151
01:43:20,194 --> 01:43:24,354
Speaker 3: that Mike Lombardi works for. Visit one o'clock on Fox.

2152
01:43:24,954 --> 01:43:27,314
Speaker 3: The four and four forty nine Ers are at the

2153
01:43:27,474 --> 01:43:29,634
Speaker 3: four and five Buccaneers.

2154
01:43:30,154 --> 01:43:31,714
Speaker 4: The Niners by six.

2155
01:43:32,314 --> 01:43:36,954
Speaker 8: Pooh, I like san Fran. Looks like CMC could be

2156
01:43:37,034 --> 01:43:39,274
Speaker 8: back to I like san Fran in this game. But uh,

2157
01:43:39,954 --> 01:43:41,994
Speaker 8: I'm tempted by these points with Baker.

2158
01:43:43,274 --> 01:43:44,034
Speaker 3: That's what they want.

2159
01:43:44,154 --> 01:43:45,634
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what they want. I'm not gonna do it.

2160
01:43:45,674 --> 01:43:46,514
Speaker 8: I'll delay the points.

2161
01:43:47,594 --> 01:43:48,274
Speaker 6: Yeah, seem.

2162
01:43:49,914 --> 01:43:51,794
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the forty nine ers, of course, but

2163
01:43:51,954 --> 01:43:54,354
Speaker 5: I didn't take the Bucks to cover at home long

2164
01:43:54,474 --> 01:43:56,914
Speaker 5: trip for the forty nine ers. Bucks have been frisky.

2165
01:43:57,194 --> 01:44:01,274
Speaker 5: That's what I'm doing, Paul.

2166
01:44:01,954 --> 01:44:07,114
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Tampa to pull an upset outright. I'm

2167
01:44:07,114 --> 01:44:10,274
Speaker 4: a little worried about the losing the way they did

2168
01:44:10,354 --> 01:44:13,634
Speaker 4: on a Monday night, short week on the road. I

2169
01:44:13,754 --> 01:44:15,634
Speaker 4: just kind of like the way that Tampa played that game.

2170
01:44:15,674 --> 01:44:18,394
Speaker 4: And they have a really easy schedule after this game,

2171
01:44:18,794 --> 01:44:20,034
Speaker 4: so they're scrappy.

2172
01:44:20,274 --> 01:44:20,874
Speaker 3: They're scrappy.

2173
01:44:20,954 --> 01:44:24,874
Speaker 4: They try with sacre bakes while throwing multiple interceptions every week.

2174
01:44:25,394 --> 01:44:27,794
Speaker 3: We're lucky that Bakers in the league. There's no doubt

2175
01:44:27,794 --> 01:44:30,194
Speaker 3: about that. Fortunate. This is a lot. This is what

2176
01:44:30,354 --> 01:44:33,954
Speaker 3: they call a car wash game. So you've been through

2177
01:44:33,994 --> 01:44:37,034
Speaker 3: the mud and your car looks crazy, you go through

2178
01:44:37,074 --> 01:44:39,154
Speaker 3: the car wash, you come out really nice and clean.

2179
01:44:40,034 --> 01:44:41,714
Speaker 3: I guess he's gonna take the nine. That's how the

2180
01:44:41,834 --> 01:44:44,194
Speaker 3: forty nine ers are looking now. Now starting they got

2181
01:44:44,234 --> 01:44:46,674
Speaker 3: that car cleaned off, they're starting to look good on

2182
01:44:46,754 --> 01:44:49,394
Speaker 3: the highway. Yeah, you're probably right, So they're gonna win.

2183
01:44:50,234 --> 01:44:53,634
Speaker 3: One o'clock on CBS, the six and two Steelers are

2184
01:44:53,714 --> 01:44:55,234
Speaker 3: at these seven and two Commanders.

2185
01:44:55,554 --> 01:44:56,874
Speaker 4: Washington by three.

2186
01:44:57,954 --> 01:45:01,674
Speaker 8: Washington by three, who's pretty This is a pretty interesting

2187
01:45:01,754 --> 01:45:06,834
Speaker 8: game here. Actually, what do you believe? What do you believe?

2188
01:45:06,914 --> 01:45:08,034
Speaker 3: What do the sharps know?

2189
01:45:08,474 --> 01:45:11,874
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go with Washington and I'll lay the points.

2190
01:45:12,114 --> 01:45:14,074
Speaker 8: But I think this is a kind of a coin

2191
01:45:14,114 --> 01:45:14,474
Speaker 8: flip for.

2192
01:45:14,514 --> 01:45:18,594
Speaker 6: Me, Commanders, Commanders.

2193
01:45:21,074 --> 01:45:23,514
Speaker 5: I didn't take the Steelers in this game. The Steelers

2194
01:45:23,714 --> 01:45:26,074
Speaker 5: just I always pick against them because I just don't

2195
01:45:26,194 --> 01:45:29,394
Speaker 5: see it with them, but they always proved me wrong.

2196
01:45:29,514 --> 01:45:31,994
Speaker 5: And I think the Commanders have played some close games

2197
01:45:32,034 --> 01:45:34,674
Speaker 5: the last couple of weeks and they're sort of flirting

2198
01:45:34,754 --> 01:45:38,634
Speaker 5: with it. Three Washington, I'm gonna take the Steelers.

2199
01:45:38,674 --> 01:45:39,754
Speaker 3: I'm going to take the Steelers.

2200
01:45:39,834 --> 01:45:39,994
Speaker 5: Two.

2201
01:45:40,754 --> 01:45:44,234
Speaker 4: I think that defense will be tough for a young

2202
01:45:44,834 --> 01:45:46,354
Speaker 4: quarterback to see for the first time.

2203
01:45:46,554 --> 01:45:48,994
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will take the Commanders, but I will take

2204
01:45:49,074 --> 01:45:50,994
Speaker 3: the points. Wait, whose your favorite?

2205
01:45:51,074 --> 01:45:52,634
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, Washington by three.

2206
01:45:52,794 --> 01:45:54,394
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they don't lose by three.

2207
01:45:56,954 --> 01:45:58,914
Speaker 5: Pittsburgh actually a toss up because.

2208
01:45:58,674 --> 01:46:01,554
Speaker 3: They don't win by three, right, they think by less.

2209
01:46:01,954 --> 01:46:04,154
Speaker 4: Correct even though they get the three for being at home.

2210
01:46:04,274 --> 01:46:04,954
Speaker 3: So it's like a pick.

2211
01:46:05,314 --> 01:46:07,714
Speaker 5: It's literally a toss up because it's literally.

2212
01:46:09,394 --> 01:46:11,634
Speaker 3: Yeah, somewhere in the world, Joey the noses like I

2213
01:46:11,714 --> 01:46:14,754
Speaker 3: never heard a car wash game. I've been doing this

2214
01:46:17,434 --> 01:46:20,714
Speaker 3: all right. We skip over the Patriots at one o'clock

2215
01:46:20,754 --> 01:46:23,354
Speaker 3: and we go to four o five. The two and

2216
01:46:23,514 --> 01:46:27,794
Speaker 3: six Titans are at the five. Three Chargers charges by

2217
01:46:27,914 --> 01:46:31,714
Speaker 3: seven and a half. They had spread that big in years.

2218
01:46:32,274 --> 01:46:36,194
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's that's a pretty good one. I usually I

2219
01:46:36,794 --> 01:46:38,474
Speaker 8: see a team beat the Patriots and I think more

2220
01:46:38,514 --> 01:46:41,154
Speaker 8: of them. I mean, I think Tennessee's okay, but I

2221
01:46:41,234 --> 01:46:43,994
Speaker 8: think the Lack is starting to chug a little bit.

2222
01:46:43,994 --> 01:46:45,554
Speaker 8: I'm gonna take the Lack and I'm not actually gonna

2223
01:46:45,594 --> 01:46:46,154
Speaker 8: lay the points.

2224
01:46:46,674 --> 01:46:47,514
Speaker 5: I don't know what that means.

2225
01:46:49,714 --> 01:46:53,914
Speaker 6: I'm also gonna take the Chargers. Yeah, I'll also lay

2226
01:46:53,954 --> 01:46:54,314
Speaker 6: the points.

2227
01:46:55,354 --> 01:46:58,794
Speaker 5: Yeah, I actually thought the Titans were pretty bad last week.

2228
01:46:59,354 --> 01:47:01,354
Speaker 8: Just got I'll bat it.

2229
01:47:01,834 --> 01:47:04,954
Speaker 5: Yeah. Thanks, it's a way of putting it. So I'm

2230
01:47:04,954 --> 01:47:07,074
Speaker 5: gonna take the Chargers in this game. It's a lot

2231
01:47:07,154 --> 01:47:10,234
Speaker 5: of points, but I'll take the Chargers both ways at home.

2232
01:47:10,954 --> 01:47:11,114
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2233
01:47:11,274 --> 01:47:13,354
Speaker 4: The the hook is there for you, Freddy, if you

2234
01:47:13,434 --> 01:47:14,754
Speaker 4: want it. I'm gonna lay the points.

2235
01:47:14,794 --> 01:47:14,954
Speaker 3: Though.

2236
01:47:15,034 --> 01:47:18,754
Speaker 4: I think the Chargers defense has played really, really well,

2237
01:47:19,834 --> 01:47:22,674
Speaker 4: and I think that's not a good offense in Tennessee.

2238
01:47:22,834 --> 01:47:26,234
Speaker 4: So I could see very very few points being scored

2239
01:47:26,274 --> 01:47:27,074
Speaker 4: by the Titans.

2240
01:47:27,234 --> 01:47:29,754
Speaker 3: If you're wondering why the Chargers are getting seven and

2241
01:47:29,794 --> 01:47:34,554
Speaker 3: a half, the answer is horriball. That's the answer. Because

2242
01:47:34,594 --> 01:47:37,674
Speaker 3: he's gonna he knows Mason Rudolph not jesse Minter.

2243
01:47:39,114 --> 01:47:40,394
Speaker 4: Why exactly does he know Mason?

2244
01:47:40,754 --> 01:47:41,034
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2245
01:47:42,274 --> 01:47:45,794
Speaker 5: So the Charges both their defensive coordinator, Jesse Minter know

2246
01:47:45,954 --> 01:47:49,274
Speaker 5: the name. He's gonna be a head coach del Real.

2247
01:47:49,554 --> 01:47:52,634
Speaker 3: All right, CBS at four twenty five, the three and

2248
01:47:52,794 --> 01:47:55,674
Speaker 3: six Jets. They don't have a prime time game at

2249
01:47:55,714 --> 01:47:57,434
Speaker 3: home this week. I don't know how that happened.

2250
01:47:57,754 --> 01:47:59,394
Speaker 4: See they got flexed out next week.

2251
01:47:59,514 --> 01:48:03,114
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the against the five and four Cardinals. So

2252
01:48:03,314 --> 01:48:05,354
Speaker 3: this spread was what do they know?

2253
01:48:05,594 --> 01:48:06,634
Speaker 4: What Jets by one?

2254
01:48:06,754 --> 01:48:09,234
Speaker 5: What's ups? Why can't my Cardinals get any respect?

2255
01:48:09,354 --> 01:48:10,754
Speaker 3: Do they know on the road?

2256
01:48:11,354 --> 01:48:14,434
Speaker 8: Well, then in that case, I'm taking Evans Cardinals at

2257
01:48:14,474 --> 01:48:17,274
Speaker 8: home and I'll take that point home dogs.

2258
01:48:17,474 --> 01:48:20,314
Speaker 6: Kyler Murray, same run with Kyler.

2259
01:48:20,274 --> 01:48:24,354
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm going Cardinals easily on this one. Drew

2260
01:48:24,434 --> 01:48:27,274
Speaker 5: Petsing there off defensive coordinator, also know the name, going

2261
01:48:27,314 --> 01:48:29,914
Speaker 5: to be a head coach in the league someday. Cardinals

2262
01:48:29,994 --> 01:48:33,514
Speaker 5: ran for two hundred and thirteen yards last week, Cardinals

2263
01:48:33,554 --> 01:48:34,234
Speaker 5: big in this game.

2264
01:48:34,434 --> 01:48:35,994
Speaker 4: I'm going to take the Cardinals too. I think they

2265
01:48:36,074 --> 01:48:37,794
Speaker 4: got a little something going. I think that could be

2266
01:48:37,834 --> 01:48:39,114
Speaker 4: a playoff team in the NFC.

2267
01:48:39,554 --> 01:48:42,394
Speaker 3: But I do wonder what they know. Why are they

2268
01:48:42,514 --> 01:48:44,874
Speaker 3: favoring the Jets here? I'm not sure. It could be

2269
01:48:44,994 --> 01:48:48,034
Speaker 3: just a money thing. How money is Like, how did

2270
01:48:48,074 --> 01:48:50,354
Speaker 3: it start? That's what we should have. We should have

2271
01:48:50,594 --> 01:48:54,314
Speaker 3: How did the line start? That's my job. Never ran alexy. Yeah,

2272
01:48:54,394 --> 01:48:55,754
Speaker 3: so I have to do it all, so i would

2273
01:48:55,794 --> 01:48:57,634
Speaker 3: like to know how this line shifted. But I'll go

2274
01:48:57,834 --> 01:48:59,594
Speaker 3: I'll go with the Cardinals both ways.

2275
01:49:00,794 --> 01:49:02,594
Speaker 8: Is it like a big call of duty release week

2276
01:49:02,674 --> 01:49:03,034
Speaker 8: or something?

2277
01:49:03,554 --> 01:49:03,754
Speaker 13: Wow?

2278
01:49:03,994 --> 01:49:07,874
Speaker 5: Nice job, there you go.

2279
01:49:08,194 --> 01:49:12,114
Speaker 3: That's not Tyler's played very well, you know him and

2280
01:49:12,154 --> 01:49:18,674
Speaker 3: apology who for? So this one, I'll be interested to

2281
01:49:18,754 --> 01:49:21,634
Speaker 3: see what the line is. Four twenty five CBS, the

2282
01:49:21,714 --> 01:49:24,034
Speaker 3: six and two Eagles are at the three and five

2283
01:49:24,154 --> 01:49:28,874
Speaker 3: Cowboys Philly by seven. Yeah, Prescott for now and maybe

2284
01:49:28,914 --> 01:49:32,314
Speaker 3: the rest of the season. But is that a good thing? Yeah?

2285
01:49:33,034 --> 01:49:35,314
Speaker 8: Maybe maybe not. I'm gonna take I'll take Philly on

2286
01:49:35,354 --> 01:49:38,314
Speaker 8: the road. Shoot, I'm gonna have to lay those points too.

2287
01:49:38,314 --> 01:49:39,594
Speaker 8: It's a lot, but I'm gonna.

2288
01:49:40,234 --> 01:49:42,714
Speaker 6: Philly Philly until Dallas shows me something.

2289
01:49:43,954 --> 01:49:46,074
Speaker 5: Cowboys are in a free fall, so I'm taking the

2290
01:49:46,154 --> 01:49:48,994
Speaker 5: Eagles both ways in this game. I'm fascinated by what

2291
01:49:49,154 --> 01:49:51,274
Speaker 5: happens in the offseason with the Cowboys, I think people

2292
01:49:51,314 --> 01:49:52,114
Speaker 5: are gonna get fired.

2293
01:49:53,394 --> 01:49:56,514
Speaker 4: So I'm a little philly obviously. To win the game,

2294
01:49:58,714 --> 01:50:01,754
Speaker 4: Sirianni just does things every single game to hurt his

2295
01:50:01,834 --> 01:50:05,234
Speaker 4: team and does that Is that enough to cover the spread?

2296
01:50:05,274 --> 01:50:05,954
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say no.

2297
01:50:06,194 --> 01:50:09,554
Speaker 4: I say the Eagles will cover. But Cooper Rush has

2298
01:50:09,554 --> 01:50:11,954
Speaker 4: played reasonably well for the Cowboys when he's filled in.

2299
01:50:12,914 --> 01:50:14,754
Speaker 4: I mean, if siriann is just gonna go for two

2300
01:50:14,914 --> 01:50:18,274
Speaker 4: every time and you know, kick like sixty yard field

2301
01:50:18,274 --> 01:50:20,074
Speaker 4: goals instead of punting at the end of a game,

2302
01:50:20,234 --> 01:50:21,834
Speaker 4: like the other team's always gonna have a chance.

2303
01:50:22,674 --> 01:50:25,754
Speaker 3: So I don't know, I'm gonna take the Eagles'll you'll

2304
01:50:26,034 --> 01:50:28,354
Speaker 3: cover my eyes. Yeah, when it comes to this game,

2305
01:50:28,434 --> 01:50:30,634
Speaker 3: if you're walking around Vegas, you might be hearing a

2306
01:50:30,674 --> 01:50:33,354
Speaker 3: lot of people say rah rah, and that means that's

2307
01:50:33,394 --> 01:50:35,234
Speaker 3: the type of game it is. For the Cowboys. It's

2308
01:50:35,274 --> 01:50:40,354
Speaker 3: a raw ra game. They rally around the team because

2309
01:50:40,514 --> 01:50:43,514
Speaker 3: without Prescott in and they actually cover. Here, they don't win,

2310
01:50:43,914 --> 01:50:47,154
Speaker 3: but they cover. They play hard without Prescott in there.

2311
01:50:47,554 --> 01:50:48,554
Speaker 3: So it's it's what they.

2312
01:50:48,554 --> 01:50:51,074
Speaker 5: Call lil ewing theory.

2313
01:50:51,354 --> 01:50:54,354
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, see what you did then. So now

2314
01:50:54,434 --> 01:50:58,794
Speaker 3: we go Sunday Night A twenty on NBC Universo Telexitos

2315
01:50:58,834 --> 01:51:02,954
Speaker 3: and Peacock. These seven and one Lions are at these

2316
01:51:03,034 --> 01:51:08,394
Speaker 3: six and three Texans, Detroit by three and a half. Detwi.

2317
01:51:09,674 --> 01:51:11,794
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Detroit's rolling. Hard to pick against them

2318
01:51:11,874 --> 01:51:15,434
Speaker 8: right now. Houston's been up and down the suite year.

2319
01:51:15,474 --> 01:51:17,034
Speaker 3: You know, I'm rough Linds a mess.

2320
01:51:17,154 --> 01:51:19,074
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm just interested to see with it. They're able

2321
01:51:19,114 --> 01:51:20,474
Speaker 8: to kind of pull together here at the end. But

2322
01:51:20,874 --> 01:51:22,154
Speaker 8: I'll take Detroit all other points.

2323
01:51:22,274 --> 01:51:24,074
Speaker 4: Their first round guard that they picked a couple of

2324
01:51:24,154 --> 01:51:28,474
Speaker 4: years ago hasn't panned down. Imagine picking a guard in

2325
01:51:28,474 --> 01:51:29,994
Speaker 4: the first round having him not paying out.

2326
01:51:30,194 --> 01:51:32,234
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I can't imagine Troit.

2327
01:51:33,034 --> 01:51:35,514
Speaker 6: Please Lions, Lions.

2328
01:51:36,074 --> 01:51:38,674
Speaker 8: Restore the roar. The roar have been restored, I believe.

2329
01:51:38,834 --> 01:51:38,994
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2330
01:51:39,034 --> 01:51:42,194
Speaker 5: I think Houston's injuries are too much against a team

2331
01:51:42,314 --> 01:51:44,634
Speaker 5: like the Lions. So I'm gonna take Detroit both ways

2332
01:51:44,674 --> 01:51:47,034
Speaker 5: as well. But I think the Texans will be all right.

2333
01:51:47,154 --> 01:51:51,554
Speaker 3: But right now, no, I will take Detroit to win,

2334
01:51:51,634 --> 01:51:54,714
Speaker 3: but I'll take the hook. I mean, Houston scrappy, a

2335
01:51:54,754 --> 01:51:57,834
Speaker 3: little scrappy, spunky. I hear a lot of people saying, see,

2336
01:51:58,274 --> 01:52:00,474
Speaker 3: they should have had c. J. Strouds sit out last

2337
01:52:00,514 --> 01:52:02,354
Speaker 3: year so then he'd have his good year this year.

2338
01:52:03,514 --> 01:52:10,474
Speaker 3: But it's like that fall it could take like uh, now,

2339
01:52:10,514 --> 01:52:13,274
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go with the Lions both ways. Here uh

2340
01:52:13,714 --> 01:52:18,834
Speaker 3: Monday Night, ESPN, ESPN Deportes eight fifteen. The two and

2341
01:52:19,034 --> 01:52:22,394
Speaker 3: six Dolphins are at the four and four Rams. The

2342
01:52:22,514 --> 01:52:24,274
Speaker 3: la are by one is a fun game.

2343
01:52:24,554 --> 01:52:25,594
Speaker 8: It's just a fun game.

2344
01:52:25,634 --> 01:52:28,834
Speaker 3: It's just a fun game. A lot of tight pants throwing.

2345
01:52:28,634 --> 01:52:31,194
Speaker 5: On so many tighte pants overwhelmed.

2346
01:52:32,234 --> 01:52:34,834
Speaker 8: Yeah, that that Matthew Stafford though, Man, he's he's still

2347
01:52:34,874 --> 01:52:35,554
Speaker 8: really dangerous.

2348
01:52:35,594 --> 01:52:37,274
Speaker 3: You got a tight top to not just the tight

2349
01:52:37,354 --> 01:52:38,754
Speaker 3: pun language.

2350
01:52:41,314 --> 01:52:43,234
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think this is a one point game I'm

2351
01:52:43,234 --> 01:52:45,394
Speaker 8: gonna take. I'm gonna take the Rams, but I think

2352
01:52:45,394 --> 01:52:47,554
Speaker 8: it's kind of a coin flip. I expect to win

2353
01:52:47,674 --> 01:52:49,674
Speaker 8: his offense, they'll be they'll be clicking, but I'll take

2354
01:52:49,714 --> 01:52:50,154
Speaker 8: the Rams.

2355
01:52:50,474 --> 01:52:53,794
Speaker 6: I'm gonna roll the Rams to stringing a couple wins

2356
01:52:53,834 --> 01:52:54,674
Speaker 6: the other another home.

2357
01:52:55,714 --> 01:52:57,674
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm gonna go Rams both ways. I think Sean

2358
01:52:57,754 --> 01:53:00,314
Speaker 5: McVay has done an outstanding job with the Rams this year,

2359
01:53:00,434 --> 01:53:02,914
Speaker 5: keeping them afloat through those injuries. So now that they're

2360
01:53:03,314 --> 01:53:05,674
Speaker 5: in shouting distance, now that they're getting some of their

2361
01:53:05,714 --> 01:53:07,874
Speaker 5: guys back. I just think he's a really good.

2362
01:53:07,834 --> 01:53:12,434
Speaker 4: Coach, really interesting young defense the Rams have built with

2363
01:53:12,714 --> 01:53:15,074
Speaker 4: Verse and Fisk and those guys up front getting a

2364
01:53:15,114 --> 01:53:16,154
Speaker 4: lot of heat on the passer.

2365
01:53:17,074 --> 01:53:19,194
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take the I saw Verse end up in

2366
01:53:19,314 --> 01:53:24,834
Speaker 3: the top quarter quadrant of uh you know pressure guys. Yes,

2367
01:53:24,914 --> 01:53:28,714
Speaker 3: you did you see that? Evan probably key On White

2368
01:53:28,794 --> 01:53:31,194
Speaker 3: ended up. He did that too. He was up close

2369
01:53:31,274 --> 01:53:31,754
Speaker 3: close to it.

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01:53:32,234 --> 01:53:34,594
Speaker 5: No, no, he was in the land, but in the bottom.

2371
01:53:34,634 --> 01:53:37,954
Speaker 5: He's where you want to be, right, It's.

2372
01:53:37,834 --> 01:53:40,394
Speaker 3: Like a cary, so everywhere you want to be, so

2373
01:53:43,554 --> 01:53:45,714
Speaker 3: everywhere about the background. Did you already pick? I did?

2374
01:53:45,754 --> 01:53:49,674
Speaker 3: I picked. I'm tempted to pick the Dolphins, but if

2375
01:53:49,794 --> 01:53:51,874
Speaker 3: it's at home for the Rams, I'll stick with it.

2376
01:53:52,354 --> 01:53:54,834
Speaker 4: Just like a road game, no one, no one goes

2377
01:53:54,874 --> 01:53:56,674
Speaker 4: to root for the Rams and Chargers in that stadium.

2378
01:53:56,714 --> 01:53:59,274
Speaker 3: I know it's true, but I'll stick with the Rams

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01:53:59,354 --> 01:54:02,714
Speaker 3: and Paul's guy. One o'clock on Fox. Now we go

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01:54:02,914 --> 01:54:07,874
Speaker 3: back to the Patriots, the Stafford and Glad. We're getting

2381
01:54:07,914 --> 01:54:09,514
Speaker 3: to end of the show because that gyro.

2382
01:54:11,834 --> 01:54:13,554
Speaker 8: We're on Fox this gotta hurry.

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01:54:14,154 --> 01:54:14,234
Speaker 14: Uh.

2384
01:54:14,434 --> 01:54:16,954
Speaker 3: It's the two and seven Patriots at the four and

2385
01:54:17,074 --> 01:54:20,074
Speaker 3: four Bears, Chicago by six.

2386
01:54:20,354 --> 01:54:22,234
Speaker 5: We just picked this really really slow.

2387
01:54:22,954 --> 01:54:25,114
Speaker 3: Right, well, we do have.

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01:54:27,754 --> 01:54:27,914
Speaker 17: Six.

2389
01:54:29,034 --> 01:54:32,954
Speaker 3: You don't want to do that. I got Chicago handles

2390
01:54:32,994 --> 01:54:33,354
Speaker 3: over there.

2391
01:54:33,954 --> 01:54:35,474
Speaker 8: He does actually lit up the new one.

2392
01:54:35,634 --> 01:54:36,874
Speaker 3: You're going to go Toqu's office.

2393
01:54:36,994 --> 01:54:40,634
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I just thought I haven't seen enough out

2394
01:54:40,634 --> 01:54:43,354
Speaker 8: of New England lately. I'm gonna go with Chicago. I

2395
01:54:43,474 --> 01:54:45,754
Speaker 8: am tempted by the spread, though I think Newing can

2396
01:54:45,874 --> 01:54:48,514
Speaker 8: keep it a little bit closer than that. But I

2397
01:54:48,794 --> 01:54:50,594
Speaker 8: don't think, not today, I'm going to take twenty to

2398
01:54:50,714 --> 01:54:51,274
Speaker 8: ten Bears.

2399
01:54:51,474 --> 01:54:52,274
Speaker 2: Not the day.

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01:54:55,034 --> 01:54:59,234
Speaker 6: I think I might pick the Patriots to cover. Chicago wins.

2401
01:54:59,834 --> 01:55:01,954
Speaker 6: Patriots cover what's the spread? One more time?

2402
01:55:02,154 --> 01:55:02,354
Speaker 3: Six?

2403
01:55:03,034 --> 01:55:05,154
Speaker 6: Okay, so now I'll do that quick math in my head,

2404
01:55:05,234 --> 01:55:08,434
Speaker 6: like less than six. Let's do like a twenty.

2405
01:55:08,314 --> 01:55:10,674
Speaker 8: Four nineteen twenty.

2406
01:55:10,754 --> 01:55:14,274
Speaker 6: What has to be eighteen eighteen? No, that's six exactly

2407
01:55:15,674 --> 01:55:18,834
Speaker 6: twenty one eighteen all right.

2408
01:55:18,994 --> 01:55:20,114
Speaker 8: Eighteen, here we go.

2409
01:55:21,114 --> 01:55:23,154
Speaker 5: Yeah. I'm a little worried about this game just from

2410
01:55:23,194 --> 01:55:26,234
Speaker 5: a talent perspective, Like if you stacked these two rosters,

2411
01:55:26,314 --> 01:55:29,074
Speaker 5: the Bears obviously have a lot more talent, especially on

2412
01:55:29,194 --> 01:55:31,514
Speaker 5: the offensive side of the ball, but they haven't been

2413
01:55:31,634 --> 01:55:34,674
Speaker 5: clicking yet with Caleb, so I don't think that they're

2414
01:55:34,714 --> 01:55:37,954
Speaker 5: gonna completely blow doors here. So I'll go twenty one

2415
01:55:38,154 --> 01:55:42,714
Speaker 5: seventeen Chicago. The Patriots cover nice game for Drake May

2416
01:55:42,754 --> 01:55:46,434
Speaker 5: against Caleb and got some people asking some questions on Monday.

2417
01:55:47,314 --> 01:55:50,314
Speaker 4: Yeah, my big concern here from the Chicago side is

2418
01:55:51,114 --> 01:55:53,794
Speaker 4: where mentally they are. You know, they have DJ Moore

2419
01:55:53,874 --> 01:55:56,194
Speaker 4: saying I want to say no, you know in terms

2420
01:55:56,194 --> 01:55:56,674
Speaker 4: of that they.

2421
01:55:58,514 --> 01:55:59,354
Speaker 5: Coach was weird.

2422
01:55:59,554 --> 01:56:02,434
Speaker 4: So I think that there's some significant problems stemming from

2423
01:56:02,474 --> 01:56:06,434
Speaker 4: that Hail Mary that they allowed. However, I'm gonna go

2424
01:56:06,474 --> 01:56:08,194
Speaker 4: with Evans theory here. I'm just going to take what

2425
01:56:08,274 --> 01:56:11,034
Speaker 4: I think is the more talented team in that Chicago.

2426
01:56:11,234 --> 01:56:13,394
Speaker 4: I'm going to go twenty three to thirteen.

2427
01:56:15,194 --> 01:56:17,514
Speaker 3: I'm going down with the ship. There's a shot twenty

2428
01:56:17,954 --> 01:56:22,154
Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty one Patriots, big win on the road.

2429
01:56:22,994 --> 01:56:26,394
Speaker 3: That late season surge that Lex was talking about at

2430
01:56:26,434 --> 01:56:28,754
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show, It's gonna start this week.

2431
01:56:29,074 --> 01:56:31,354
Speaker 3: Not saying they're gonna undefeat the rest of the way,

2432
01:56:31,834 --> 01:56:35,274
Speaker 3: but you're gonna see vast improvement going forward, and they're

2433
01:56:35,274 --> 01:56:38,714
Speaker 3: gonna pull off a few wins. Uh, they'll end up

2434
01:56:40,394 --> 01:56:43,434
Speaker 3: with at least four wins this season, predicting that right

2435
01:56:43,514 --> 01:56:48,194
Speaker 3: now twenty seven. All right, that's it for this edition

2436
01:56:48,274 --> 01:56:49,314
Speaker 3: of Patriots. That's gotta go.

2437
01:56:49,394 --> 01:56:50,954
Speaker 6: We can't get out of that sea fast enough.

2438
01:56:51,074 --> 01:56:54,234
Speaker 3: Catch twenty two is coming up. Alex is waiting over there.

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01:56:55,874 --> 01:56:58,834
Speaker 3: He's gonna coming up, coming up.

2440
01:56:58,834 --> 01:56:59,554
Speaker 5: What I'm about to do?

2441
01:57:00,554 --> 01:57:01,434
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm out of here.

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01:57:03,034 --> 01:57:06,834
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Speaker 8: I'm into the tangible numbers.

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