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Speaker 1: week because it's all Q and A, so you never

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Speaker 1: know what's going to be in the show, and you

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Speaker 1: totally control that, even more so than this show. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: I may talk about many more spring games this week

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Speaker 1: and some feedback from that that either I get after tonight,

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Speaker 1: which is Sunday as we record live, or I may

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Speaker 1: just not have time for tonight. But Notre Dame had

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Speaker 1: their spring game yesterday, and this quarterback battle at Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame kind of been under the.

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Speaker 2: Radar a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I know, right when the outset of spring happened, we

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Speaker 1: were talking a lot about Tyler Buttner in the context

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Speaker 1: of Buckner and JJ McCarthy at Michigan and Tyd Thompson

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Speaker 1: for instance at Oregon. And how many, if any of

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Speaker 1: these true freshman quarterbacks, these early enrollly true freshman quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: we're going to be able to come in and make

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Speaker 1: some noise as it relates to the starting job. Well

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Speaker 1: at Notre Dame, I think too much less a national recognition.

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Speaker 2: Jack Cone came in.

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Speaker 1: Now Jack Cone, who we used to call Jack Doane,

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Speaker 1: who's a former pro wrestling referee. Easy to see how

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Speaker 1: you get those names mixed up. Cone's got a little

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Speaker 1: bit better arm talent than Doan did. But he along

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Speaker 1: with Drew Pine. They're involved obviously in this quarterback battle

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Speaker 1: as well. And I was listening to Brian Kelly talk

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Speaker 1: a little bit after the spring game yesterday, and it's

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Speaker 1: very obvious to me, and this is kind of a trend,

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Speaker 1: to be honest with you, with a lot of these

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Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, which is no surprise.

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Speaker 2: It's the norm.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Butner's not there yet now. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: expected him to be there yet. But here's the good thing.

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Speaker 1: They got an option approve an option a guy that

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Speaker 1: used to play at Wisconsin took him to a Big

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Speaker 1: Ten title game, for example in jack Cone Street named

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Speaker 1: Jack Doan, and so they feel good about him. I'm

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Speaker 1: using the word good intentionally because great would indicate they

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Speaker 1: think they have national championship potential under Jack Cohen. I

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Speaker 1: don't believe they think that right now.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The good thing about Brian Kelly is he doesn't mince words.

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Speaker 1: He's brutally honest, like there is no veil. It's like

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Speaker 1: the anti Gus Malazan approach. Malzan would have about the

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Speaker 1: same five or six preconstructed sentences and phrases for every

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Speaker 1: question you could ever ask him. Brian Kelly. It's like

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Speaker 1: he's got a polygraph hooked up to his arm. He

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Speaker 1: gives it to you, and he's respectful in his answer,

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Speaker 1: but he said, no, Tyler Butner's done some good things,

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Speaker 1: but he's a little ways away. He's a true freshman,

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Speaker 1: so duh. And he didn't get to play high school

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Speaker 1: ball last year. So Butner the irony here if you

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Speaker 1: watched the spring game, which Colin I think they had

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Speaker 1: it on the Peacock app streaming app, which we don't own,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna mention it again. But that was weird,

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Speaker 1: so I didn't get to catch it, so I had

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Speaker 1: to watch a very very sketch Afflee put together replay,

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Speaker 1: shall I say? Tyler Butner led the only two touchdown drive.

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Speaker 1: So this is one of those classic did you watch

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Speaker 1: just the spring game or did you check out the

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Speaker 1: spring game and read your practice reports and listen to

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Speaker 1: your whispers and intel on this program, for instance, because

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Speaker 1: Tyler Buttoner is not the leader in the clubhouse for

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Speaker 1: this job. The best intel out of Notre Dame that

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Speaker 1: we've had, and it's been consistent, is this is Jack

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Speaker 1: Cone's job. They're not going to announce that it certainly

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Speaker 1: hasn't been announced, nor should they for obvious reasons, I think.

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Speaker 1: But nothing changed Saturday is my point in the spring

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Speaker 1: game for Notre Dame. So they're encouraged with his arm streak. Now,

507
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Speaker 1: this is what I want to really zoom in on.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get a lot of folks who are gonna

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Speaker 1: look at Jack Cone, and I may be among them,

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Speaker 1: just to be brutally honest with you, and they may

511
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Speaker 1: look at him and they say, well, is this really

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Speaker 1: an upgrade? Like you're going from Ian Book, who, by

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Speaker 1: the way, was drafted in the fourth round a couple

514
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Speaker 1: of what yesterday, two days ago at this point, So

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Speaker 1: not a bad quarterback there by any stretch. Now, he

516
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Speaker 1: set a lot of records at Notre Dame. Brian Kelly

517
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Speaker 1: mentioned as much yesterday. Ian Book rewrote the record books here,

518
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Speaker 1: and yet we're looking for an upgrade and we're not

519
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Speaker 1: gonna be happy until we have an upgrade.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: And you know, he's one of these dudes who embrace

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Speaker 1: us the pressure. He's fine with it and he's fine

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Speaker 1: with criticism of the program. But they, I think, know

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Speaker 1: they have a little bit better arm talent at quarterback

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Speaker 1: than I think the national perception is going to be

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Speaker 1: whether that manifests itself into more gaudy passing statistics will see.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they made an effort to push it down

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Speaker 1: the field at times yesterday, but it's a spring game,

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Speaker 1: so I don't really know what that means. Necessarily, tight

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Speaker 1: end looks like a strength yet again this year, for

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Speaker 1: about the forty seventh year in a row, the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver unit is good. Lawrence Keys is the guy that

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Speaker 1: stood out to me like that's a guy who flashed.

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Speaker 1: Because the thing about these good receiver rooms is you

535
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Speaker 1: can have a good receiver room and if you play

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Speaker 1: some inferior competition, you can run up some numbers on them.

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Speaker 1: But what you find is if you don't have any

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Speaker 1: true alpha type receivers, if they're all good but the

539
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Speaker 1: ceiling is good, then they can get shut down against

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Speaker 1: really like future NFL type defensive backs.

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Speaker 2: Well, guys like Lawrence Keys.

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Speaker 1: Ideally we could clone him and have two or three

543
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Speaker 1: more guys like him are the kind where if you

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Speaker 1: got that piece in place, then everything else works off

545
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Speaker 1: of that, which makes their health vital obviously, But number two,

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Speaker 1: the entire rest of the wide receiver unit can kind

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Speaker 1: of work off that. So they've got names like they

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Speaker 1: got some guys. It's not a barren receiver room by

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Speaker 1: any stretch. I would argue it's a strength of that team,

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Speaker 1: but they got to have that hierarchy emerge. Offensive line

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Speaker 1: is something Brian Kelly and his staff spend a lot

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Speaker 1: of time on in spring.

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have to spend a lot of time on

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Speaker 2: it leading into the fall.

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Speaker 1: You ask people up there and there are a couple

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Speaker 1: of different iterations they would give you as to which

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Speaker 1: starting five they're going to carry into Tallahassee. They open,

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Speaker 1: by the way, against Florida State on the road. It's

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Speaker 1: not a neutral site game. It's gonna be Labor Day weekends, Sunday,

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Speaker 1: standalone game, probably about one hundred and fourteen degrees.

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Speaker 2: It's going to be great. So offensive line is a

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Speaker 2: question there.

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Speaker 1: But this feels like a I would call it a

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Speaker 1: New Year's six caliber team, the kind of team that

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Speaker 1: goes to the Cotton Bowl in a non playoff year

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Speaker 1: or something like that. A team that kind of hovers

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Speaker 1: around that level with maybe the ceiling of if the

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Speaker 1: spark happens, you know, if a critical mass of these

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Speaker 1: pieces that we have question marks about. If they all gel,

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Speaker 1: then that's a team that could back into the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I'm back in a team that could earn their way

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Speaker 1: into the playoff. They got really good depth defensive line, linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I think they feel as good about the front seven

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Speaker 1: as they have in quite a while. And the hope

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Speaker 1: is if you've got questions on offensive line, for example,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they have really questions at quarterback because

577
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Speaker 1: you got an experienced guy there. But if you do

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Speaker 1: have questions there, if you're trying to figure stuff out

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Speaker 1: in the fall, hopefully you got a defense that will

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Speaker 1: allow you some time. Because we're showing the schedule right

581
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Speaker 1: now if you're listening on podcasts, they open it at

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Speaker 1: Florida State, and that is a game they should be

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Speaker 1: favored in.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna call it easy by any stretch.

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Speaker 1: But then they got a winnable win against Toledo, against Purdue,

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Speaker 1: and then that Week four game against Wisconsin. I was

587
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Speaker 1: trying to map out my own schedule for this fall.

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Speaker 1: The thing about a Notre Dame schedule is you got

589
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Speaker 1: to be very careful as I get into the chat

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Speaker 1: and block some people as you look at another to Dame.

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Speaker 1: Schedule a lot of times got to be careful because

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Speaker 1: they play a lot of neutral site games.

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Speaker 2: So that Week four.

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Speaker 1: Game, you think, oh, it's a home game in South Bend.

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Speaker 1: Well it's actually down the road in Chicago, and they

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Speaker 1: play that when it's Soldier Field.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know that I'm going to be at

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Speaker 2: that one.

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Speaker 1: I do know that game against North Carolina day before Halloween,

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Speaker 1: that's going to be really enticing. But Brian Kelly again,

601
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Speaker 1: brutal honesty from him all the time.

602
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Speaker 2: Expect nothing less.

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Speaker 1: He talked at the outset of spring and then at

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Speaker 1: the end of spring, and he'll talk about this all

605
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Speaker 1: summer long about how they don't worry about being good.

606
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Speaker 1: They understand they can be good now they've been good

607
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Speaker 1: for several years. What he wants to be is he

608
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Speaker 1: wants to win a national championship. We had him on

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Speaker 1: the show last year. It was around this time last year,

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Speaker 1: and he was I loved him so much because he

611
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Speaker 1: was so honest about it, and he said, I know

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Speaker 1: what the expectation is. I know we hadn't gotten it

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Speaker 1: done and we know what it takes.

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Speaker 2: But here's where.

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Speaker 1: Brian Kelly is with Notre Dame, and then I'll move on.

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Speaker 1: Every one of us has been there, whether you know

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Speaker 1: it or not.

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Speaker 2: I was there just last night.

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Speaker 1: And where there is is when you got toothpaste tube

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Speaker 1: and you have emptied out pretty much every ounce of

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Speaker 1: toothpaste in that tube, and then you tell yourself, I'll

622
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Speaker 1: go to the store tomorrow. But then you get home

623
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Speaker 1: and you realize, you get to the sink at night,

624
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Speaker 1: contacts are out last thing you got to do, and

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Speaker 1: you realize, I forgot to go to the store today.

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Speaker 1: Can I get one more brushes worth of toothpaste out

627
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Speaker 1: of that tube? Well, picture how hard it is to

628
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Speaker 1: do that. Some of you break out scissors. I've just

629
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Speaker 1: been a grinded on the edge until it works approach.

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Speaker 1: But as hard as that is, that's what they're trying

631
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Speaker 1: to do because they try so hard. Like they've developed

632
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: good they've sent kids to the draft and they're there.

633
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Speaker 1: In some cases, they've made the playoff, they're on the precipice.

634
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Speaker 1: They played Alabama tough in the playoff.

635
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: But yet you.

636
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Speaker 1: Also realize the gap that still exists, and you wonder,

637
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Speaker 1: we feel like we've squeezed every ounce of toothpaste.

638
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: We can out of here? How do we get it out?

639
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 1: Well, the way you get it out is you got

640
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: to be better at quarterback and that's not an overnight process.

641
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: But outside of that, and they do not have a

642
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: dynamic first round draft pick in all likelihood on this

643
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Speaker 1: roster at quarterback this year. So how do you get

644
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: it well, that's the rhetorical question. That's what they have

645
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: to figure out. Oregon had their spring game yesterday. Now,

646
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: this one's fun. So the Oregon spring game was not

647
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: on an app. I was able to watch this one.

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Speaker 2: This is a swing program.

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Speaker 1: It's a swing program just for Oregon fans if you

650
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: don't care about anything other than Oregan football. But if

651
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: you're a Wisconsin fan, or you're a Virginia Tech fan,

652
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 1: or a Texas fan everywhere in between. This program this

653
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Speaker 1: year Oregon is one that could very well affect where.

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Speaker 2: You spend your postseason.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you why, because this is one where

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Speaker 1: it's very feasible to see nine to three. But it's

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Speaker 1: also very feasible for this to be a playoff team.

658
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Speaker 1: They're good. This is obviously the best roster that they've

659
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Speaker 1: had under Morial Christovaal Recruiting has been very very good.

660
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Speaker 1: So year over year, you're gonna see those incremental increases.

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Speaker 1: But this is another quarterback room we've been focused on again.

662
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Speaker 1: Familiar theme here. I just mentioned his name, like five

663
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Speaker 1: minutes ago, Ty Thompson, coming out of Arizona. We were asking,

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Speaker 1: is this a guy that's going to walk in that room?

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Speaker 1: Even though Anthony Brown's there and he's as close to

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Speaker 1: thirty years old he is to high school, and even

667
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Speaker 1: though you got a couple of guys like you got

668
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Speaker 1: Ashford in there, Robbie Ashford, more on him in just

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Speaker 1: a second, Jay Butterfield, more on him in just a second,

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Speaker 1: Ty Thompson. Because of that stellar high school rating, we

671
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Speaker 1: understand the upside there is he a guy that's going

672
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Speaker 1: to come in there and just take that job. There's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a true freshman out there every year who

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Speaker 1: does it, and so you wonder, is this going to

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Speaker 1: be that guy? Well, pre spring had some good intel

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Speaker 1: on this, and half throughout pre spring my thought was,

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna come down to Anthony Brown, the

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Speaker 1: Boston College transfer who's been there and he is very

679
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Speaker 1: very seasoned. Let's just say that. I mean, he's in

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Speaker 1: his mid twenties. I'm not joking around when I say

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Speaker 1: he's pretty old. So I thought it was gonna be him,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was gonna be Ty Thompson. Mid

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Speaker 1: spring is when I start to get some feedback from

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Speaker 1: someone I trust, really close to the program out there,

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Speaker 1: and it was Ty Thompson still has a ways to go.

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Speaker 1: It's two things are obvious. It's obviously he has a

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Speaker 1: ways to go. And it's obvious why he was rated

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Speaker 1: what he was rated in high school, which is no

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Speaker 1: different than you hear for a vast.

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Speaker 2: Majority of true freshmen in the spring.

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Speaker 1: But then you start to be told, hey, Anthony Brown's

692
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Speaker 1: got this job right now. I'm not saying he's gonna start,

693
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Speaker 1: but he's got this job right now. But I'll tell

694
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Speaker 1: you Jay Butterfield looks pretty good, Robbie Ashford looks pretty good.

695
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Speaker 1: And so you start thinking, Wow, they got several guys

696
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Speaker 1: they probably think that they could win with, and maybe

697
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Speaker 1: not an elite option in that room, but several they

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Speaker 1: think they can win with, which brings us to yesterday.

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Speaker 1: And I was reading the guys over at Duck Territory

700
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Speaker 1: dot Com earlier today, and by the way, farewell to

701
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Speaker 1: Kevin Wade leaving out there to head into other ventures.

702
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Speaker 1: So we wish you well from all of us at

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Speaker 1: Late Kick to Kevin, friend of the program for as

704
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Speaker 1: long as the program has existed. But Matt prem and

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Speaker 1: Eric Scopel over there, they were covering the game as

706
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Speaker 1: only they can, and they had blowout coverage on if

707
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Speaker 1: you're not a member of Duck Territory dot com and

708
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Speaker 1: you're an Oregon fan, what are.

709
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Speaker 2: You doing with your money?

710
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Speaker 1: A few less packs of Rama noodles per week and

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Speaker 1: shell out for that?

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Speaker 2: I think it's nine ninety nine a month, come on now.

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Speaker 1: But they had blowout coverage over there, so they saw

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Speaker 1: what they saw, but they's largely what I saw. And

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Speaker 1: most importantly, if you listen to Mario Christoval, I think

716
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Speaker 1: we all have seen what Mario crist Paul and his staff,

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Speaker 1: Joe Morehead and the offensive coordinator there and his staff

718
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Speaker 1: what they had seen, and that was Anthony Brown's the

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Speaker 1: leader for this job right now quarterback, and I don't

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Speaker 1: think that's going to change, just for the record, but

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Speaker 1: the true battle could be for that number two spot.

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Speaker 1: And this is what the guy's over at Doug Territory

723
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Speaker 1: were talking about earlier today. And I think that's really

724
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Speaker 1: fascinating because I don't think that's been decided. I saw Matt,

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Speaker 1: for instance, say I think that Jay Butterfiel's the number

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Speaker 1: two right now. Having said that though, and this is

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Speaker 1: where I'm entering into the equation, this is my opinion.

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Speaker 1: What happens a lot of times when you get a

729
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Speaker 1: true freshman is you just throw as much against the

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Speaker 1: wall as you can in spring, so Ty Thompson in

731
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Speaker 1: other words, and then you see what sticks and then

732
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Speaker 1: it falls to the ground, and then you just regroup

733
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Speaker 1: and you head into summer workouts and fall camp. But

734
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Speaker 1: what can happen is and the more guys you have

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Speaker 1: in the equation, the more likely it is to happen.

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Speaker 2: For someone you see a quantum leap.

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Speaker 1: Guy shows up in August totally different than he was

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Speaker 1: when you left him in the spring. So when I

739
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Speaker 1: say that Jay Butterfield, I'm totally fine with you considering

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Speaker 1: him the number two there right now.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. I probably agree with you.

742
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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is, I'm not ready to just conclude

743
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Speaker 1: that that's the way it's going to stack up come fall,

744
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Speaker 1: because I don't know what in the world ty Thompson's

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Speaker 1: going to look like in August, and I don't know

746
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Speaker 1: how much different it could be than what he looks

747
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Speaker 1: like at the beginning of May. But talking again to

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Speaker 1: someone I trust out there, Anthony Brown, the guy right

749
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Speaker 1: now quarterback, I don't expect that to change. Jay Butterfield

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Speaker 1: probably the number two right now. I would agree with that.

751
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Speaker 1: Don't expect that to change. But I think there's such

752
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Speaker 1: a wild variance right now, and we're still in the

753
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Speaker 1: quarterback room in ty Thompson what he could be, because

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of erraticism, if you will, about his

755
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Speaker 1: game right now. There's a lot of ups, there's a

756
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Speaker 1: lot of downs. There's that play in practice that makes

757
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: you go WHOA. And I'll tell you what it's like.

758
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Speaker 1: If you could peer into Watson Stadium and watch a

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Speaker 1: closed scrimmage and you peer it in at the right time,

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Speaker 1: you'd see ty Thompson make a throw or make a

761
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Speaker 1: play that will put your jaw on the ground, and

762
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: then the security showed you away and that was the

763
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Speaker 1: only piece of footage or access you had to spring.

764
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Speaker 1: You would think that guy's going to start at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There's no one else on this team that could make

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Speaker 1: that throw and you'd be right. But what you wouldn't

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00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: have seen is all the times he got it wrong.

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Speaker 1: That's one of the big dangers of highlight film. I've

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Speaker 1: seen it happen many times before. You're impressed and you

770
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Speaker 1: want to crown a guy because you see when he

771
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Speaker 1: finally is able to get it right, the coaching staff

772
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Speaker 1: wants him to do it until he can't get it wrong.

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Speaker 1: Big difference there, big there, you go, big difference there.

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Speaker 1: But Robbie Ashford's the name that's interesting. Robbie Ashford probably

775
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: would be playing baseball right now professionally if not for COVID. However,

776
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: there was COVID, and so the whole minor league system

777
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: got thrown into a tailspin last year.

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Speaker 2: So he's there.

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Speaker 1: Robbie Ashford's a guy that some people around Oregon feel

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Speaker 1: if he were to stick it out in football, has

781
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Speaker 1: kind of like a mac Jones vibe to him of

782
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Speaker 1: not going to come in and start early, but has

783
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Speaker 1: all the tools, has the acumen, can progress you over year,

784
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden you look up a few

785
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: years down the road and Robby Ashford is not only

786
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Speaker 1: playing quarterback for Oregon. But he's doing it at a

787
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 1: very high life level. But they got tons of weapons.

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Speaker 1: See this is not like, for example, what we've talked

789
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Speaker 1: about with Auburn. Auburn doesn't have a quarterback controversy on

790
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: their hands, but it's bo Nick's and what the cupboard

791
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 1: is relatively bare at wide receiver. At Oregon, they got

792
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Speaker 1: the best wide receiver situation they've had maybe since I

793
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,399
Speaker 1: can remember. Their tight end room is loaded, They're good

794
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Speaker 1: in the backfield. Their big question is on the offensive line,

795
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Speaker 1: which is exactly what their head coach is known for.

796
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Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna blindly trust that they get that

797
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Speaker 1: figured out.

798
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Speaker 2: But they got so.

799
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Speaker 1: Many weapons to the point where you look at Anthony

800
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Speaker 1: Brown and you say, Okay, maybe his ceiling is just

801
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: very good, but imagine what this wide receiver corps could

802
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: do for him. You know, this may be a guy

803
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: who's able to play above his skis production wise, just

804
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Speaker 1: because of all these weapons we have out here. I

805
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: guess the question early on if that if that quarterback

806
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: situation gets a little muddy is kind of like we

807
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Speaker 1: were asking about another program earlier. Will the offensive line

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Speaker 1: by them time or in this case see Oregon's got

809
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: a really loaded defense this year too. Will the defense

810
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: by them time because they keep saying goodbye to guys

811
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: and then you keep looking at the replacements and you say, well,

812
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: they look a little bit better. And they were missing

813
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: some corners yesterday, So there were some defensive backs that

814
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: you would really, in an ideal world, have liked to

815
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: have seen that you didn't get to see. But this

816
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: can be a fringe playoff team. This could be a

817
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Speaker 1: team that makes you say at the year's end, oh,

818
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Speaker 1: they're one season away. It turns out they were one

819
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Speaker 1: season away. Thus the hinge factor, that hinge factor, you know,

820
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Speaker 1: Oregon could in a kind of pinball sort of way,

821
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Speaker 1: decide the fate of a second SEC team or a

822
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Speaker 1: second Big Ten team trying to get into the playoff.

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Speaker 2: So you never know how that's going to work out.

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Speaker 2: I also wanted to remind you as.

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Speaker 1: I get that hiccup out of the way before we

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Speaker 1: wrapped the show up. I had a couple of spots

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Speaker 1: open for Zoom consultations this week, so I didn't say

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Speaker 1: anything about it last week, so I wanted to get

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Speaker 1: through the week. They're going to be first come, first

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Speaker 1: surf had some really good sessions last week, and I

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Speaker 1: can't announce them publicly yet because they're not public. But

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Speaker 1: there are some people, a couple of them who have

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Speaker 1: taken part in those Zoom consultations with me that are

834
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Speaker 1: signing documents this week with various media entities and outlets,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not taking credit for it.

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Speaker 2: They deserve all the credit.

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying is it just made me very happy,

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Speaker 1: cause some of that work started to pay off.

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Speaker 2: So if you were interested in.

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Speaker 1: Sports media or anything else, YouTube, channel, podcast, whatever, and

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00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,399
Speaker 1: you kin kind of on the cliff, you're looking over

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Speaker 1: it but you don't know if you should jump, go

843
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Speaker 1: ahead and do it. And right before you do it,

844
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Speaker 1: email me Josh paid seven zero six at gmail dot com,

845
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 1: or you can DM me on any of the social

846
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Speaker 1: platforms at late kick Josh, and we'll see if we

847
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Speaker 1: can schedule a Zoom consultation for you. So I'm opening

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Speaker 1: those up as soon as I get off the air,

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Speaker 1: first Come, first serve. Don't have many spots open this week,

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Speaker 1: but do have a couple, so book that if that

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Speaker 1: sounds like that's something you're interested in. Really good show,

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Speaker 1: we will be back here, same time, live Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: We also have the Late Kick Extra podcast that drops

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: And Thursday mornings.

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Speaker 1: No off season around here, never has been, never will

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Speaker 1: be for Director Emeritus Colin, for Jesse and the entire

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Speaker 1: crew in Connecticut. I'm Josh Pat have yourselves a great

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Speaker 1: start to the week, and God bless

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Speaker 2: H