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Speaker 1: Have you ever heard of the peanut punch? Have you

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Speaker 1: ever heard of the peanut punch?

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Speaker 2: The peanut punch? Yes, sir, please say no, no, I'm

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Speaker 3: Leave that to go.

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Speaker 1: I want to leave that alone.

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Speaker 2: Word.

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Speaker 4: What's up, everybody?

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Speaker 5: I'm Peanut Tillman and this is the NFL Player's Second

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Speaker 5: Acts podcast and with me is always my trusted co host,

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Speaker 5: mister Roman Harper. What's up, Peanut? Hey, look, man, this

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Speaker 5: is gonna be another great one. We have our guest today.

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Speaker 5: I'm super excited. Considered one of the greatest, if not

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Speaker 5: the greatest defensive player in NFL history, super Bowl champion

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Speaker 5: and Hall of Famer, mister Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Speaker 5: All Right, LT, I know you don't mind me calling

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Speaker 5: you that. Let's jump right into it.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 5: I want to tell you when I give out these stats,

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Speaker 5: I want you to tell me how does it make

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Speaker 4: And then continue off of this.

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Speaker 5: But the Lawrence Taylor Family Foundation, what you guys have

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Speaker 5: done provided more than eighty six thousand dollars in scholarships

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Speaker 5: to different families, provided more than ten thousand meals, and

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Speaker 5: created more than fifteen other programs and events for young people.

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Speaker 5: How does the Lawrence Taylor Family Foundation continue to build

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Speaker 5: off those things? And tell me what it feels like

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Speaker 5: to have put up those type of numbers.

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Speaker 3: Well, I tell you it's not me. I'm just a face.

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Speaker 3: I'm a face.

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Speaker 4: And and.

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Speaker 3: But my daughter is incredible.

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Speaker 4: What's your name? What's your daughter?

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Speaker 6: Taylor Joones? She is incredible. And she has a staff,

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Speaker 6: which are all volunteers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: The things they do, you know, they try to empowering teaching.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I tell you the things they do. I

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Speaker 6: wish I would have had an opportunity to be a.

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Speaker 1: You know, absolutely yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: Had opportunity. But she's she's very good at what she does.

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Speaker 6: And it's a nonprofit we and we do and I

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Speaker 6: remember the times I would come and we have food drives,

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Speaker 3: It's unbelievable and it's good to be a part of that.

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Speaker 1: Is absolutely see that, yeah.

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Speaker 6: You know, And and I've always seen people do that,

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Speaker 6: other people do that well.

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Speaker 3: But I'm sure she's enjoyable when you are a.

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Speaker 6: Part of absolutely yeah, And people appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm sure she's got that philanthropic spirit from you.

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Speaker 5: All Right, Now, let's pivot and go to a different

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Speaker 5: question for you. We'll talk a little bit of football.

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Speaker 5: If you could have played offense, what position would you

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Speaker 3: Tight end?

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Speaker 1: Tight end?

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Speaker 4: Tight end?

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Speaker 6: I because the tight end, especially in this league, you

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Speaker 3: Get noticed is that tight end. Is that tight end?

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Speaker 6: I keep saying, Man, somebody got in the defending tight end.

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Speaker 6: Somebody gotta get him because you think, oh, he's he's

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Speaker 6: just because that's where they catch you. They put on

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Speaker 6: so and so Kelsey's up tight end, he ain't no

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Speaker 6: damn that And people we'll forget to count them in

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Speaker 6: You don't count for him because he's a tight end.

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Speaker 6: So hey, hey, Kate hurts. Yeah right, So tell me this.

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Speaker 6: I know.

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Speaker 4: The saying is always want a giant, always a giant.

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Speaker 5: Because if you could have played for any other team,

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Speaker 5: not saying I'm forcing you to pick another team.

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Speaker 4: You for.

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Speaker 3: Another team, I would have you're asking.

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Speaker 6: Of course, everybody coming out of college always wanted to

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Speaker 6: play for Cowboys, America's team, and so but I would

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Speaker 6: Great defensive players, running backs, wide receivers. I mean, and

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Speaker 6: I looked like, I, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, like a California like that.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So being a fellow defensive player, all three of

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Speaker 5: us up here were great defensive players. I have a

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Speaker 5: tell us what was your technique as far as stripping

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Speaker 3: Out stripping the football? I just I remember when I

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Speaker 6: I was, I was, I was a good player, but

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Speaker 6: I said, you know what, it's great to make a tackle,

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Speaker 6: it's great to make a sack, but if you can

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Speaker 6: take the ball away, if you can take the ball away, man,

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Speaker 6: we got thirty yards to go into it for a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Show we can do that. And that's what I started

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Speaker 6: all we work on is stripping the ball, Stripping the ball,

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Speaker 6: you know, And I guess I was called King Stripper.

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Speaker 1: King. Yeah, I like it.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, King Stripper.

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Speaker 4: I'll take it to you in the right city.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of the peanut punch? Have you

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Speaker 2: ever heard of the peanut punch? The peanut punch? Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: I want to leave that alone.

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Speaker 5: We can talk about it at another time. But it's

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Speaker 5: another punch. It's another stripping technique. Okay, I'm you know

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Speaker 4: I know you.

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Speaker 5: I've seen you at golf tournaments. I know you like

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Speaker 6: My game has been suffering a little bit now because

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Speaker 4: You just don't hit the ball as far as you

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Speaker 6: I don't hit the ball as far as and listen,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm saying like, hey, yeah, I've been hit

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Speaker 6: As far as uh uh my my. My chipping has

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Speaker 6: one final question for answer. Super Bowl prediction, Chiefs or Eagles.

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Speaker 6: I thought I would get away, you know, okay, you

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Speaker 3: Would happen.

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Speaker 6: What I would want to happen is Philadelphia goal and

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Speaker 3: Up in sleep. Yes, sir, yeah, you always have some

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Speaker 6: No, but I I think and you can't if I

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Speaker 3: Going to be a lot of points. But you can't.

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Speaker 6: You can't give my homes, uh the football with two

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Speaker 4: You can't get.

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Speaker 3: Nowhere on the field. Can you give them what two

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Speaker 4: No, not at all, absolutely right.

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Speaker 3: You can't give it to him.

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Speaker 4: Can't do it to them.

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Speaker 5: So how do you feel about Saquon Barkley being a

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Speaker 5: Giant leaving the team going to a team within the division.

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Speaker 5: Now he's an Eagle and he's he's in the super

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Speaker 1: How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 3: I probably feel the same way eighty five thousand fans

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Speaker 7: I got Yeah, I got you, I got you, I

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Speaker 7: got you. You got screwed over? Yeah, screwed over. I mean, okay,

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Speaker 3: But you gave him.

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Speaker 4: We got some money.

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Speaker 1: They paid him.

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Speaker 6: Okay, he got paid and you have your your best

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Speaker 6: running back. But if I was mistaken, they're fighting over

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Speaker 6: a million dollars or it was. It was it was

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Speaker 6: something petty, you know, uh to want you know, he

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Speaker 6: had what's the running back? Emms Smith and miss Smith

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Speaker 6: I mean he.

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Speaker 3: And he made it look.

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Speaker 4: Easy jumping over pea.

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Speaker 3: That's nasty when you make it look easy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure that's what a lot of people said

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Speaker 5: about Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 5: As a player, I appreciate it. Man, Yes, man, that's awesome.

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Speaker 5: All right, well, lt Man, we're gonna let you get

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Speaker 5: up out of here. Man, appreciate it, man, Thank you everyone.

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Speaker 5: Coming to the point, I'm going to get me uh

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Speaker 5: uh some type of one ear ring to rock. I'll

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Speaker 5: but I will get my own.

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Speaker 4: Ear ring at some point. Yeah, I might have to

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Speaker 4: hook it up. I'm not gonna get yours. It's fine,

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Speaker 4: but that's just only you can pull that off. It's

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Speaker 1: Only you can pull that one.

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Speaker 4: All good. What's up? Everybody?

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the NFL Players Second Act Podcast. I'm Peanut

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Speaker 5: Tillman and with me as always as my.

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Speaker 1: Co host, Rome Pop. What's up?

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Speaker 3: What's up? Mayby?

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Speaker 5: It's good man. I can't wait to get to this one.

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Speaker 4: Who's our guest?

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Speaker 5: Hey, he's a Super Bowl champ. He's a heart and

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Speaker 1: What up though?

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Speaker 4: He's a Hall of Fame running back? Up though? Drome

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Speaker 9: But but let me make that decision, right, I mean,

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Speaker 9: that's the that's the part that is disappointing because on

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Speaker 9: I just thought that that it was It was not

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Speaker 9: You just miss these opportunities because they are they are

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Speaker 5: Do you think the the well, the appreciation of these

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Speaker 9: And we didn't we didn't put an asterisk by Eric

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Speaker 9: That's just part of the nature of records, right when

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 8: So that's just a process.

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Speaker 1: So we're here in New Orleans Super Bowl fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: We've all played in Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Some of us wonder, here we go, here we go,

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Speaker 5: I don't even like that. I don't even like you

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Speaker 5: But anyway, we're in New Orleans Super Bowl fifty nine.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it was amazing because you know, there was

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Speaker 9: because it was my final game, it was my hometown. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that.

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Speaker 5: I'm glad you said that, though, because when when I

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Speaker 5: Most people don't retire when they want to retire, it's

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Speaker 5: I'll be happy. So I'm kind of glad to hear

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Speaker 5: I've never.

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Speaker 1: I've never heard that before.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so what happens you'd already made that decision, yep,

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Speaker 5: all right, And did you have any hesitation to come

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Speaker 9: I I talked to mister Rooney, the Steelers owner before

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Speaker 9: I had actually retired the year before I was done.

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Speaker 9: They convinced me to come back only because the Super

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So talk to us about what some

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Speaker 9: So so I'm I'm very fortunate to be working with

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Speaker 9: I lost my father right after we won the championship.

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Speaker 9: He died of a heart attack, and so it's personal

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Speaker 9: trying to really bring that forward UH and let that

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Speaker 9: Live to the Beat, right, and there's a website Live

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Speaker 9: get some of those stories and hear about the other

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Speaker 9: issues that people have had and the small things they've

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Speaker 5: All right, well, yeah, listen better. We appreciate you coming

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Speaker 5: on the pod. Appreciate appreciate the work you're doing with

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Speaker 5: the CDC. That's also. You need to walk more. That's right,

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Speaker 5: you need to you're the old guy. You need to

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Speaker 5: walk more. You know he older than you, right, you

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Speaker 5: need to walk more.

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Speaker 8: We we all need to walk, thank you, We all

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Speaker 1: Can you let me just do that one time, because

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Speaker 1: he it's a wee. Let me clown him one time.

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Speaker 4: Who wins the game? Who wins the game?

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Speaker 9: I think if the Eagles can run the ball, they

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Speaker 9: Chiefs win.

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