WEBVTT - White Elephants

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<v Speaker 1>For the last few episodes, you've heard about FIFA's historical

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<v Speaker 1>fondness for brutal authoritarians. Specifically, it's a Paulium behavior in Chile,

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<v Speaker 1>South Africa, and Argentina in the nineteen sixties and seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>So you might ask, has FIFA changed, Has it learned

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<v Speaker 1>any lessons? Of course not, It's FIFA, and that brings

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<v Speaker 1>us to today's episode, a more modern tale about FIFA's avarice.

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<v Speaker 1>When faced with the choice between prophets and human rights

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<v Speaker 1>ethics and good conduct in Brazil in two thousand and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>FIFA did what it always does. It put profits first,

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<v Speaker 1>screw the consequences. I'm Connor Powell. This is episode ten,

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<v Speaker 1>White Elephants. If you travel inland a thousand miles or

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<v Speaker 1>so on the murky waters of the Amazon River, they're

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<v Speaker 1>likely to catch a glimpse of the three toed sloth,

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<v Speaker 1>an animal so slow algae literally grows all over its body.

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<v Speaker 1>You might encounter charismatic and talkative Gold and bluem maccause,

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<v Speaker 1>by the score their voices loud as hell, you will,

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<v Speaker 1>without a doubt see the massive pink nose river dolphin

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<v Speaker 1>and incredibly social mammal is excited to see you as

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<v Speaker 1>you are to see it. But there's another species out there,

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<v Speaker 1>an invasive one. It's the great white elephant. They've pushed

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<v Speaker 1>people by the thousands out of their homes in trampled

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<v Speaker 1>the fragile budgets of local governments. The Amazon, which sits

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<v Speaker 1>mostly in the soccer moutination of Brazil, is the size

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<v Speaker 1>of Spain, France, Italy, Sweden and Greece combined, teeming with

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<v Speaker 1>wildlife found no worlds. A massive river runs through its rainfalls,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's in Brazil where this white elephant infestation grows,

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<v Speaker 1>from the remote city of Manaus to the cattle town

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<v Speaker 1>of Cuieba to the nation's capital of Brazilia. The white

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<v Speaker 1>elephants arrived in two thousand and fourteen, raised and then

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<v Speaker 1>abandoned by the organization known as FIVA. The twelve state

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<v Speaker 1>of the art stadium is built or refurbished, are turning

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<v Speaker 1>into wide elephants, proving too costly to maintain. The white

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<v Speaker 1>elephants of Brazil are not like the native creatures that

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<v Speaker 1>make the Amazon such a rich envirobrant place. No, these

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<v Speaker 1>needy beasts are state of the art soccer stadiums made

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<v Speaker 1>of concrete, steel and glass, built to satisfy FIVA's punishing

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<v Speaker 1>requirements for host countries to live up to World Cup standards.

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<v Speaker 1>This brand new stadium is the jewel in Manoa's is crown,

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<v Speaker 1>designed in the shape of a traditional basket, the seats

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<v Speaker 1>are the colors of amazon in fruits. At a cost

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<v Speaker 1>of three hundred million dollars alone, the arena of the

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon and the middle of Brazil's tropical rainforest was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to transform Annouse, a sleepy river city for the better.

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<v Speaker 1>Some see the lavish temple to football as an investment

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<v Speaker 1>that will attract tourists into the area. No expense was spared,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's in part because construction was a logistical nightmare.

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<v Speaker 1>Thousand seeds stadium was built hundreds of miles away from

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil's nearest population center and besieged by months of torrential downpource.

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<v Speaker 1>At help save time, parts of the stadium, like the roof,

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<v Speaker 1>for being built in other locations. Mannouse is so remote

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<v Speaker 1>that it's almost impossible to reach by car, which is

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<v Speaker 1>why officials had to have the stadium materials brought in

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<v Speaker 1>by boat, most of it prefabricated in Portugal. Undred tons

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<v Speaker 1>of steel had to be barged up the Amazon River.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite the astronomical cost, The arena of the Amazon hosted

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<v Speaker 1>just four World Cup games before it was basically abandoned.

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<v Speaker 1>Aside from a few Brazilian national team matches, a handful

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<v Speaker 1>of birthday parties, and the occasional evangelical Christian revival, it

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<v Speaker 1>is sat largely empty ever since the two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen World Cup. The Manous economy just can't support a

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<v Speaker 1>stadium of the size FIFA demanded with all of its

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<v Speaker 1>sky boxes and luxury suites. Manawas doesn't have a first

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<v Speaker 1>league football team, and most of the locals can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>tickets to the games. As officials and Manus search for

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<v Speaker 1>new uses for the stadium, the white Elephant deteriorates under

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<v Speaker 1>the heat and humidity of the Amazon. One loose tongue

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<v Speaker 1>civil servant even suggested this could become a holding zone

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<v Speaker 1>for prisoners en route to more permanent jails. You heard

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<v Speaker 1>that right, turn a world class soccer stadium into a prison.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet the stadium in Manouse isn't even the worst

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<v Speaker 1>example of Brazil's wasteful spending to meet FIFA's demands. Everything

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<v Speaker 1>about Manega Ainsia Stadium is big, a towering presence in Brazilia.

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<v Speaker 1>At a cost of nearly eight hundred million dollars, it

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<v Speaker 1>was the most expensive stadium the country, built for the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand fourteen World Cup. These days, there's very little

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<v Speaker 1>football being played at the world's second most expensive stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, it mostly says empty. Like in Mannouse, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no first division soccer team to bring in fans to

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<v Speaker 1>fill the seats. The occasional football exhibition matches are not

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<v Speaker 1>enough to sustain the five million dollars a year to

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<v Speaker 1>maintain the stadium, and like in Manouse, Brazilia's officials are

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<v Speaker 1>struggling to find ways to pay for the upkeep. Officials

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<v Speaker 1>expected this stadium to be full, and at least one

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<v Speaker 1>way it is, but not how they had hoped. The

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<v Speaker 1>parking lot has been turned into a giant storage area

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<v Speaker 1>for buses to turn. And white elephant refers to the

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<v Speaker 1>ancient fable when a rare and prized white elephant is

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<v Speaker 1>given as a gift by the king, the recipient is blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>After all white elephants are sacred. The monarch favors you.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you come to understand the curse. You can't afford

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<v Speaker 1>defeat an elephant, and you can't give it away. It

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<v Speaker 1>serves no practical purpose, and it's starting to eat you

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<v Speaker 1>out of house and home. FIFA's gift of white elephants

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<v Speaker 1>to Brazil has proven to be every bit the curse

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<v Speaker 1>it was in the ancient tales. And what does it

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<v Speaker 1>tell you when someone who knows all the downsides of

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<v Speaker 1>the white elephant curse shows up at your door with

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<v Speaker 1>an albino packadern and worse tells you it's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>you rich. Sounds like a grift right well. When FIFA

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<v Speaker 1>arrived in Brazil with designs for extravagant stadiums, it promised

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<v Speaker 1>the country they enjoy riches and glory if they built them.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, FIFA does what is best for FIFA always.

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<v Speaker 1>After the tournament, FIFA fat, with swollen bank accounts, walked

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<v Speaker 1>away from Brazil, leaving the country to clean up its

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<v Speaker 1>financial mess. If you want to understand how FIVA's insatiable

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<v Speaker 1>appetite for profits hurts real people in real places, then

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and you'll hear the tale of the two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and fourteen World Cup in Brazil and the Curse

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<v Speaker 1>of the White Elephants, the gift that keeps on taking.

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<v Speaker 1>The lines outside of sal Pollo's Arena Corinthians were unbearably

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<v Speaker 1>long and disorganized. Now with the full kick off, long

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<v Speaker 1>queues of ticket jacks, thousands of excited fans, many dressed

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<v Speaker 1>in the iconic black with white striped jerseys of the

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<v Speaker 1>homeside Corinthians, jostle as overwhelmed ticket takers struggled with the

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<v Speaker 1>surge of bodies. Eventually, the queues got so bad that

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<v Speaker 1>they were simply let through. With a little more than

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<v Speaker 1>a week to go before the opening match of the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and fourteen World Cup, FIFA had demanded the

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<v Speaker 1>Brazilian Soccer Confederation stage a league match at the new

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<v Speaker 1>stadium to iron out any issues, of which there were many.

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<v Speaker 1>For instance, the roof wasn't finished. Despite pumping in more

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<v Speaker 1>than three billion dollars yes, I said three billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>into the building of new stadiums, Most of Brazil's new

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<v Speaker 1>and renovated arenas were over budget and way behind schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>We saw a stund which last month was still being built.

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed near a completion, but not near enough, as

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<v Speaker 1>was clear once week I went into the arena and

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<v Speaker 1>I was stunned. That's Andrew Downey, veteran foreign correspondent and

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<v Speaker 1>lifelong soccer fan who, as you might have noticed by

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<v Speaker 1>his accent, is from Scotland. Until recently he lived in

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil and covered the run up to the two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen World Cup. One of the big reasons for

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil hosting the World Cup was the Brazil needed more

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<v Speaker 1>and better infrastructure for the World Cup. You need you know,

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<v Speaker 1>roads and airports and trains and busses and all that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff, and it was a chance to modernize.

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<v Speaker 1>And so the opportunity for Brazil in this World Cup

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<v Speaker 1>was to add that infrastructure that would benefit the population

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<v Speaker 1>because it was public money that was being used, and

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of the great attractions of this World Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>The government said, we will start building this infrastructure. This

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<v Speaker 1>is our chance to upgrade and upgrade quickly. Downey was

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<v Speaker 1>at that dry run match that day in June to

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<v Speaker 1>see firsthand what years of FIVA's demands and the Brazilian

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<v Speaker 1>government's promises looked like in practice. He navigated the long

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<v Speaker 1>lines and remembers the chaos and clutter and then new

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<v Speaker 1>still unfinished stadium. There was still lots to do, but

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<v Speaker 1>one part was absolutely finished and that stuck out as

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<v Speaker 1>much as anything. There was this enormous, enormous, welcoming nedial

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<v Speaker 1>foy inside the stadium and it was the most beautifully

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<v Speaker 1>appointed thing you've ever seen, and I was just thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>why is all this so necessary? Like the foyer, the

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<v Speaker 1>luxury suites were not only finished, it looked like they

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<v Speaker 1>were plucked straight out of the taj Mahal. It was

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<v Speaker 1>what the lords of soccer expected, what they demanded of

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<v Speaker 1>so called FIFA quality stadiums. I remember walking into the

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<v Speaker 1>toilets and it was like walking into the toilets at

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<v Speaker 1>the Four Seasons because everything was marble. You know, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>from Scotland, you know, I grew up watching my team

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<v Speaker 1>Hibs in the eighties and nineties and not remember when

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<v Speaker 1>you went to the toilet, the toilet was a wall

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<v Speaker 1>at the back of the stadium, right. I've obviously got

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<v Speaker 1>suggested that you should have that in the World Cup venue,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just thought, is it really necessary for the

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<v Speaker 1>Fruitball stadium to have model bathrooms? Where these new marble

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<v Speaker 1>bathrooms and the majestic foyer really necessary for a month

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<v Speaker 1>long tournament, Downey wasn't the only one asking whether marble

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<v Speaker 1>bathrooms and the majestic foyer were worth the cost. For months,

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<v Speaker 1>in the soccer mad nation, where the cliche soccer is

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<v Speaker 1>like a religion is used without irony, Brazilians have been

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<v Speaker 1>protesting the reports of financial excess and corruption to struggle

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<v Speaker 1>to satisfy FIFA's stadium standards, and impressed the global soccer

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<v Speaker 1>community was ripping Brazil apart. On June two thousand and thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>as the sun set over Rio de Janeiro, the lights

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<v Speaker 1>of its fame mark and a stadium came on, illuminating

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<v Speaker 1>the pitch. Ahead of the Confederation's Cup match between Tahitian Spain,

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of thousands of Brazilians marched through the city streets

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<v Speaker 1>towards the stadium. They weren't heading for the game. The

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<v Speaker 1>streets have been filled with protests for weeks, some turning violent.

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil is a place with protests. Crowds have invaded the

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<v Speaker 1>streets to voice that discontent with the government. The protesters

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<v Speaker 1>came from different backgrounds. Rebellious students were joined by middle

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<v Speaker 1>class professionals, left wing activists joined by traditional stay at

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<v Speaker 1>home mothers. Together as a group, they moved closer. Police

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<v Speaker 1>dressed like characters out of a Marvel's Avengers movie, went

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<v Speaker 1>into battle with newly purchased riot helmets and plexiglass shields.

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<v Speaker 1>They opened fire with a volley of rubber bullets and

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<v Speaker 1>tear gas. These clashes between police and protesters had been

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<v Speaker 1>on repeat, night after night after night across Brazil. The trigger.

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<v Speaker 1>The government had jacked up bus fares to cover the

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<v Speaker 1>costs of construction for the sleek, new modern stadiums FIFA

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<v Speaker 1>required for the two thousand and fourteen World Cup. The

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<v Speaker 1>government has spent more than eleven billion dollars getting ready.

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<v Speaker 1>It had begun peacefully, with about one thousand protesters moving

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<v Speaker 1>towards the stadium, demanding that the government spent more money

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<v Speaker 1>on health than education rather than sporting events. People to say,

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<v Speaker 1>we are fit up, we want changes. That's Carlos Vanier,

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<v Speaker 1>a professor of urban and regional planning at the Federal

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<v Speaker 1>University of Rio de Janeira. Veneer, was one of the protesters,

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<v Speaker 1>marching with his family. As the protests grew, he remembers

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<v Speaker 1>so too did the brutality of the police response. The police,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, we're under pressure from the Brazilian government and

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<v Speaker 1>FIFA to protect the stadiums and the soccer facilities. Donny

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<v Speaker 1>was there too, and he confirms Veneer's account. You would

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<v Speaker 1>have these big matches and outside Colomba from the stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have tens of thousands of people on the

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<v Speaker 1>streets and the police would come in. The police would

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<v Speaker 1>fire Robert bullets and the police would fire tear gas

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a uh, it was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The more the police trying to reign in the protest

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<v Speaker 1>from Porto Allegra to sell Paolo to Rio, the more

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<v Speaker 1>they grew. The repression provoked more anger and more people

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<v Speaker 1>talk to the streets. These things are happening on a

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<v Speaker 1>daily basis, and it was it was it was scary,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest. Chris Gaffney is an American researcher, academic,

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<v Speaker 1>and yes protester. He became the English speaking international voice

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<v Speaker 1>of the protest movement. And I remember sitting very clearly

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<v Speaker 1>on put of neither put as a dentity of Vatagus

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<v Speaker 1>and being shot at by the police with concussion grenades

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<v Speaker 1>or a bullets, and being chased on motorcycles and having

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<v Speaker 1>to run through the streets of Rio to try to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way home. The smell of tear gas was

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<v Speaker 1>just like my cologne for the day. The contrast between

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<v Speaker 1>old and new was painful. Brazil's inadequate and aging infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>underfunded hospitals, and crowded schools, they all looked even more

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<v Speaker 1>tired and beaten down in the light of the glistening

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<v Speaker 1>new World Cup stadiums. It was so obvious that the

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<v Speaker 1>basic needs of the people were not being attended to,

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<v Speaker 1>and that FIFA quality stadiums were the priority, but FIFA

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<v Speaker 1>quality hospitals were not, in that FIFA quality schools were not,

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<v Speaker 1>And so this kind of FIFA standard or FIFA quality

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<v Speaker 1>came to represent the bending over backwards in fealty to

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<v Speaker 1>the desires of a Swiss non profit who managed to

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<v Speaker 1>make four billion dollars in the four year cycle that

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<v Speaker 1>led it that finished in two thousand fourteen. And so

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<v Speaker 1>people saw this and were disgusted and took to the

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<v Speaker 1>streets and were violently repressed by the very same mechanisms

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<v Speaker 1>that were designed to secure the World Cup. Here again

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<v Speaker 1>is Carlos Venier. The main slogan that many movements at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment used is we want fair World Cup which

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<v Speaker 1>that way to say we once soccer. We do not

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<v Speaker 1>want spending billions of dollars on this. We do not

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<v Speaker 1>have corruption of these, we want fair World Cup. The

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<v Speaker 1>violence and anger in the streets of Brazil couldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>been further from the optimism and joy just six years earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>when FIFA President Sepp Ladder stood on a stage in

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<v Speaker 1>Zurich and in front of the world, ripped open his

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<v Speaker 1>white envelope to announce with five World Cup titles and

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<v Speaker 1>a booming economy, Brazil seemed like a natural pick. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no nation more passionate about soccer, and the South American

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<v Speaker 1>giant hadn't hosted a World Cup since n Best known

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<v Speaker 1>for its endless beaches and yearly carnival, these days, Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>is developing a new calling card. It's economy, which most

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<v Speaker 1>of the world's economy is stagnant, Brazil's is growing at

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<v Speaker 1>seven percent. Sal Polo's stuck market is shattering records since

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<v Speaker 1>the discovery of new offshore oil fields, the Brazilian oil

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<v Speaker 1>industries booming. Brazil's president at the time, the left leaning

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<v Speaker 1>Louis and Nazio Lula da Silva, often called just Lula

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<v Speaker 1>for short, was one of the most popular politicians in

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and he was eager to show that progress

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil had made under his leadership. With low inflation, a

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<v Speaker 1>shrinking inequality gap, and a religious deal for soccer, Brazil

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<v Speaker 1>was a sporting nation on the rise. Nearly eight percent

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<v Speaker 1>of Brazilian supported hosting the World Cup, with only ten

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<v Speaker 1>firmly against it. On Lula's watch, Brazil had also been

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<v Speaker 1>selected to host another international sporting event, the two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen Olympics. Journalist dave's Iron, who wrote Brazil's Dance

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<v Speaker 1>with the Devil, a book all about Brazil's preparations for

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<v Speaker 1>the World Cup and the Olympics, says Lula, backed by

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<v Speaker 1>the nodding heads of fee Fund, the International Olympic Committee,

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<v Speaker 1>promised that these world events would further transform the rapidly

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<v Speaker 1>developing nation. This idea of bringing in the World Cup

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<v Speaker 1>and then subsequently in the Olympics in two thousand and

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen came with it so many promises about how this

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<v Speaker 1>was going to be great for Brazil. It was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be great for Brazil economically, it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>great for Brazil socio politically, and it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be great for Brazil in terms of its global standing

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<v Speaker 1>among the nations of the world. So it was all

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<v Speaker 1>built on this idea that it was going to help

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<v Speaker 1>while the opposite took place. As they say on Wall Street,

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<v Speaker 1>markets go up and markets go down. By two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and thirteen, Brazil's booming economy wasn't just going down, it

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<v Speaker 1>was crashing. A Latin America's large as economy is showing

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<v Speaker 1>signs of a slowdown. And this is a difficult to watch.

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<v Speaker 1>You see a very promising economy slowing down quite radically.

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<v Speaker 1>To make matters worse, Lula had been termed out of office.

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<v Speaker 1>Dilma Russaf, Lula's former chief of staff, was left to

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<v Speaker 1>manage Lula's legacy and the economic crash. The money he

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<v Speaker 1>remarked to build the new World Cup infrastructure began to

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<v Speaker 1>rapidly disappear, Sucked up by construction and corruption, Brazil was

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<v Speaker 1>forced to raise taxes, cut basic services, and borrow from

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<v Speaker 1>international markets to pay for the ever increasing costs. There

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<v Speaker 1>was a wide spread I can go to that all

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<v Speaker 1>this money was being spent for FIFA and for football

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<v Speaker 1>rather than being spent on ordinary Brazilians. It was two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and thirteen, and RUSSAF tried to thread the political

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<v Speaker 1>pandering needle as protesters flooded Brazil's streets. She condemned the violence,

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<v Speaker 1>but she said she also supported the protesters right to

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<v Speaker 1>demonstrate and called for dialogue. What Dilma Russof didn't do

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<v Speaker 1>was pushed back against FIFA. You know, the guys who

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<v Speaker 1>were insisting not just on new stadiums, but particular style

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<v Speaker 1>of new stadiums, with marble atriums and luxury suites. Scaling

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<v Speaker 1>back the extravagance was not something FIFA would even contemplate. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>resources for promised improvements through roads, subways, and airports related

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<v Speaker 1>infrastructure that would benefit more than just soccer were redirected

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<v Speaker 1>to help me FIFA stadium construction deadlines. The gap between

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<v Speaker 1>what Brazilians have been promised and what they were seeing

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<v Speaker 1>being built for FIFA only widened as the protests grew.

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<v Speaker 1>FIFA did what it normally does stayed quiet, But behind

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<v Speaker 1>the scenes, FIFA did not adjust or reevaluate their demands.

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<v Speaker 1>What FIFA wanted FIFA was going to get. There are

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of like a death by a thousand cuts

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<v Speaker 1>sent the economy into a downward spiral. And yet FIFA

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't care if your economy is in bad shape. They

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<v Speaker 1>want their FIFA quality stadiums. Dave's Iron says FIFA's indifference

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<v Speaker 1>and greed had real world consequences. They felt like they

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<v Speaker 1>needed to push ahead, which led to cost cutting, which

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<v Speaker 1>led to corruption, which led to a lot of dissatisfaction

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<v Speaker 1>among the people who felt like their needs were being

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<v Speaker 1>ignored while stadiums were being built. The first punches were

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<v Speaker 1>thrown seconds after the final whistle blew. The full row

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<v Speaker 1>of green stadium seats came curling through the air and

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<v Speaker 1>onto the pitch. Countless other pieces of trash and debris,

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<v Speaker 1>some one fire came raining down from every part of

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium. It was two thousand and nine. Hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>supporters of the Brazilian side Quarter Chiba storm their home pitch.

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<v Speaker 1>Hackey clothed police officers swung their batons wildly and fired

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<v Speaker 1>rubber bullets trying to be back the enraged soccer hooligans.

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<v Speaker 1>The chaos erupted after core Achieva's shocking relegation to Brazil's

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<v Speaker 1>domestic second division, meaning for non soccer fanatics, they had

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<v Speaker 1>the worst record and so they got booted down to

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<v Speaker 1>a lower division, their fans went ballistic. It was the

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<v Speaker 1>very type of soccer violence Brazilian lawmakers had hoped to

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<v Speaker 1>end when they banned the sale of alcohol and stadiums

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<v Speaker 1>six years earlier. In two thousand three, the Brazilian government

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<v Speaker 1>banned alcohol from stadiums because of the enormously high death

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<v Speaker 1>rate amongst fans. Those stamping out all of the violence

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<v Speaker 1>completely was proving to be difficult. That ban on alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>had saved lives and helped reduced violence, But as the

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and fourteen tournament near Brazil's ban on alcohol

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<v Speaker 1>and stadiums became a flashpoint of intention for World Cup organizers,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerome Vodka, the General Secretary of football's world governing body,

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<v Speaker 1>has urged the Brazilian government to approve a law which

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<v Speaker 1>allows the sale of beer at World Cup venues. For

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<v Speaker 1>more than twenty five years, the red Budweiser logo had

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<v Speaker 1>adorned nearly every corner of FIFA's World Cup advertising. The

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<v Speaker 1>King of Beers is one in a massive cavalcade of

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<v Speaker 1>advertisers whose commercials bombard TV sets during World Cup matches.

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil's ban on alcohol and stadiums threatened FIFA's money making machine,

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<v Speaker 1>and the only thing worse than the loss and advertising

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<v Speaker 1>for FIFA would be the loss of lucrative in game

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<v Speaker 1>beer sales, and FIFA wasn't about to let that happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Just listen to FIFA's General secretary Jerome Valc, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>to say, and maybe I look a bit arrogance, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's something will not negotiate to. I mean there will

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<v Speaker 1>be and the MusB a spot of the of the law,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we have the right to sell beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil had enacted this band in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>faced with a staggering level of soccer violence and preventable deaths,

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to argue this law wasn't completely reasonable. And

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<v Speaker 1>yet FIVA, a nonprofit who stayed admission is to grow

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<v Speaker 1>and protect the game of soccer, not to earn money,

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<v Speaker 1>demanded Brazil removed the band, which, of course Brazil ended

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<v Speaker 1>up doing. Beer would be sold at World Cup games,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least if FIFA was going to make money

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<v Speaker 1>off of beer sales, Brazil could count on tax revenue

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<v Speaker 1>and profit sharing is part of its hosting duties right well,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to make money as well as all

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<v Speaker 1>money this FIFA makes the money. This is where the

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<v Speaker 1>controversy is. The country usually doesn't make money. FIFA, the

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<v Speaker 1>organization of the World Cup, is who makes the money.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite spending north of three billion dollars on FIFA required stadiums,

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<v Speaker 1>ending public safety laws aimed at preventing alcohol related violence,

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil wasn't guaranteed a penny for hosting the World Cup tournament.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, FIFA and its FIFA subsidiaries that are fully

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<v Speaker 1>exempt from any text whatsoever levied at whatever level, state level,

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<v Speaker 1>municipality level, all sorts of texas, consumption, texas income, texas,

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<v Speaker 1>you name it, its all exempt. Remember, the rules of

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<v Speaker 1>the game are rigged by FIVA for FIFA. So not

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<v Speaker 1>only is FIFA blessed with a tax exemption as part

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<v Speaker 1>of its hosting requirements, so are all FIFA's corporate sponsors.

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<v Speaker 1>In two thousand and fourteen, Brazil spent fifteen billion dollars

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<v Speaker 1>to host the World Cup. FIVA earned nearly five billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars from World Cup advertising deals and sponsorship agreements. Brazil's

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<v Speaker 1>cut zero the final insult FIFA security demands. FIVA, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>understood the hazards of combining alcohol and a fan base

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<v Speaker 1>with a history of soccer violence. Drunken hooliganism has been

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<v Speaker 1>an issue in world soccer for decades, but add to

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<v Speaker 1>the mix a population worried about a crashing economy and

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<v Speaker 1>angry at the bejeweled stadium springing up amidst a crumbling infrastructure,

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<v Speaker 1>and the two thousand and fourteen World Cup was beginning

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<v Speaker 1>to look like a powder keg ready to explode. As

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<v Speaker 1>soccer fans lined up to inner Rio's Maracana Stadium July

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and fourteen for the final game, the images

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<v Speaker 1>were dazzling. Argentinian fans wore the classic light blue and

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<v Speaker 1>white striped jerseys. Germany's fans don white and red Adiita's

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<v Speaker 1>tops with black trim mixed in, where the bright, almost

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<v Speaker 1>electric yellow kits of host country Brazil standing in stark

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<v Speaker 1>contrast all the bright colors where the drab al of

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<v Speaker 1>green military uniforms of the Brazilian security forces. Come Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Rio de Janeiro may look like an occupied city. Troops,

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<v Speaker 1>military police, firefighters and National guardsmen are being deployed, largest

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<v Speaker 1>ever in the city's history. The site of troops standing

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<v Speaker 1>along roads and at intersections, and heavily clad riot gear

0:28:26.480 --> 0:28:30.040
<v Speaker 1>became the persistent image of the tournament, and everything was

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<v Speaker 1>only amped for the final match, which was played under

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<v Speaker 1>a draconian security blanket. Israeli drones flew above the stadium,

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:44.080
<v Speaker 1>American provided bomb busting robots patrolled outside, while German anti

0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:47.880
<v Speaker 1>aircraft tanks kept watch over the skies. No one can

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>accuse Brazil of scrimping on security for soccer's biggest event.

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<v Speaker 1>The country total nearly one billion dollars in security costs,

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<v Speaker 1>five times what South Africa spent during the two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>ten Cups. You've surely noticed that since the terror attacks

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<v Speaker 1>of two thousand and one, security at large gatherings, including

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<v Speaker 1>public sporting events, has become increasingly militarized. But Brazil and

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<v Speaker 1>FIFA security set up in two thousand and fourteen, while

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<v Speaker 1>state of the art was something all together different and

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<v Speaker 1>unheard of in world sport, Brazilian authorities are leaving nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to chance. One hundred and seventy thousand security forces will

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<v Speaker 1>be mobilized throughout the country. There are now more security

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<v Speaker 1>forces on the ground in Brazil than the United States

0:29:35.480 --> 0:29:38.640
<v Speaker 1>deployed at the height of the Iraq War. Brazil, a

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<v Speaker 1>country with no international enemies or history of domestic terror

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<v Speaker 1>had created a full on World Cup army, an army

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<v Speaker 1>whose weapons were trained not on some foreign enemy, but

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<v Speaker 1>on the very people the World Cup was supposed to benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>This massive security force was never about stop in a

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<v Speaker 1>terror attack or even solving Brazil's stunning lee high murder rate.

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<v Speaker 1>It was required by FIFA to pacify Brazil's own population,

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<v Speaker 1>which had grown increasingly hostile to the soccer organization and

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<v Speaker 1>the Brazilian government. By the time the first game kicked

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<v Speaker 1>off in two thousand and fourteen, Brazilian public opinion had

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<v Speaker 1>swung wildly against the World Cup, where once it was

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>eight in favor when step Ladder announced the winning bid.

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<v Speaker 1>More than sixty Brazilians believe hosting the World Cup is bad.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have Brazilians protesting soccer, you know something went

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<v Speaker 1>very wrong. As journalists Dave's Iron points out, if you

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<v Speaker 1>need a US military sized army to keep security during

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<v Speaker 1>a soccer tournament in a nation of soccer fans, then yes,

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<v Speaker 1>something has gone seriously wrong. It was slowly instituted in

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<v Speaker 1>preparation for the World Cup like terrific surveillance, a tremendous

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<v Speaker 1>surveillance and as well as you know things like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>water cannons and concussion grenades like it's it's not just

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<v Speaker 1>about the weaponry, it's about a plan in a mode

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<v Speaker 1>of attack against your own population. It wasn't just the

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:18.040
<v Speaker 1>massive spending on FIFA stadiums that angered the Brazilian public,

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<v Speaker 1>though that was a big part of it. And it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't just the appearance of troops. It's what the military

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<v Speaker 1>actually did. In the lead up to the World Cup.

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil's newly created heavy handed security force was trained by

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<v Speaker 1>who's who of international security conglomerates. They included Academy, which

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<v Speaker 1>you'll know by its former name Blackwater, the infamous private

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<v Speaker 1>security company used during the Iraq War, and the Israeli

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<v Speaker 1>firm Raphael Advanced Defense Systems, which has long provided the

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<v Speaker 1>backbone for the Israeli blockade around Gaza and its military

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<v Speaker 1>occupation of the Palestinian West Bank. These firms didn't just

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<v Speaker 1>provide secure already, they paved the way for the forced

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<v Speaker 1>displacement of tens of thousands of Brazilians and entire neighborhoods

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<v Speaker 1>for the World Cup. One such slam Rio's huge Mari

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<v Speaker 1>Favela complex was recently pacified after an operation involving hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>of men, tanks and helicopters, and by pacified they mean

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<v Speaker 1>removed from the safety of its bunker in Zurich. FIVA's

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<v Speaker 1>leadership pushed for all of this additional security. It was

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<v Speaker 1>unlike any other sporting event. Ever, FIFA brings with it debt,

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<v Speaker 1>displacement and the militarization of public space. It takes two

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<v Speaker 1>to tango, and what FIFA looks for is willing nations.

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<v Speaker 1>They're willing to, you know, march to the beat of

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<v Speaker 1>FIFA's drum. In Brazil, FIFA found a willing partner. That partnership, however,

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<v Speaker 1>enriched FIFA and ripped apart Brazil. Here, Chris Caffey, what

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<v Speaker 1>do we have at the end is you know, sixt

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<v Speaker 1>or four games of football and a country that is

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<v Speaker 1>now in economic samples Today, the high speed train that

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<v Speaker 1>connects Salpallo's largest airport to its city center is rarely late.

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<v Speaker 1>The modern metro is a much needed addition, but the

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<v Speaker 1>project itself was anything but on time. It first opened

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<v Speaker 1>in April of two thousand and eighteen. It was originally

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<v Speaker 1>one of the many infrastructure projects promised as part of

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<v Speaker 1>Brazil's World Cup bid. It was supposed to be ready

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<v Speaker 1>when the tournament kicked off in two thousand and fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>but the high speed rail line was ditched as money

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<v Speaker 1>was diverted to key World Cup infrastructure projects like stadiums,

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<v Speaker 1>especially those empty, crumbling white elephant stadiums that now in

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<v Speaker 1>fast places like Manaus in Cuioba. The fact that the

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<v Speaker 1>train line to the airport was completed even four years

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<v Speaker 1>later makes it unique. Dozens of other promised infrastructure projects

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<v Speaker 1>from Brazil's original World Cup plan, from roads the train

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<v Speaker 1>lines have yet to be built and probably never will be.

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<v Speaker 1>When Brazil was awarded the World Cup by FIFA back

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and seven, the country had dreams of glory,

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<v Speaker 1>confident it would win a record sixth championship and show

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<v Speaker 1>the world the progress Brazil had achieved. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>narrative FIFA was all too willing to inflate and encourage.

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<v Speaker 1>FIFA's demands for its World Cup, and let's be very clear,

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<v Speaker 1>every tournament is FIVA's and not the host nations brought

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<v Speaker 1>out the worst in Brazil after months of civil unrest,

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of unfinished public works projects, a new draconian

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<v Speaker 1>security system, a fifteen billion dollar price tag and Brazil's

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<v Speaker 1>seven to one thrashing at the hands of Germany and

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<v Speaker 1>the World Cup semifinal. The two thousand and fourteen World

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<v Speaker 1>Cup is anything but glorious and what are the long

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<v Speaker 1>term consequences? Today? Brazil has been ravaged by the COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen virus, Its economy has crashed and stagnated, and its

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<v Speaker 1>right wing government led by Yair Bulson Nario, is sending

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<v Speaker 1>signals it will use Brazil's new robust security apparatus built

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<v Speaker 1>under the direction of FIFA, to stay in power. No

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<v Speaker 1>matter what, You've heard a lot about the bad and

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<v Speaker 1>world soccer under FIFA, decades of corruption and generations of abuse.

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<v Speaker 1>It might make you wonder if there's any reason to

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<v Speaker 1>be hopeful. The answer is yes, absolutely yes, and it

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<v Speaker 1>starts with a team of outsiders who pushed to be

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<v Speaker 1>treated as equals. Could the answer to FIFA's corruption be

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<v Speaker 1>women's soccer? That's coming up next on The Lords of Soccer.

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<v Speaker 1>The Lords of Soccer, How FIFA Stole the Beautiful Game

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<v Speaker 1>is an Inside Voices media production in conjunction with I

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<v Speaker 1>Gary Scott and me Connor Powell special thanks to Giselli

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<v Speaker 1>Rossi for helping me with the trickiest of the Brazilian names.

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