Speaker 1: The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how
Speaker 1: much the equipment matters.
Speaker 2: I just love that I can hit any shot I
Speaker 2: kind of want.
Speaker 3: We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about
Speaker 3: what goes on here to help golfers play better golf.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane
Speaker 2: Bak and that is Marty Jertsen Marty in Person podcast.
Speaker 2: Always a little bit different, right, yeah, it is fun
Speaker 2: make you more uncomfortable, to make you just equally normal comfortable, a.
Speaker 3: Little bit more, a little bit more uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: Press in summer Haze is with us as well. Pressed
Speaker 2: in third year at ASU, you're kind of rocket and rolling.
Speaker 2: Now finally, I feel like this is kind of the
Speaker 2: time when you get into this semester, right, you get
Speaker 2: through September, you get through kind of mid October, you
Speaker 2: kind of know where you're at in terms of grades
Speaker 2: and schooling and your classes. Do you like your schedule
Speaker 2: looks pretty normal on paper?
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Yeah, definitely, I would say, you know, always
Speaker 1: every single year, the first part is always a little
Speaker 1: bit hard to adjust, just getting used to like the
Speaker 1: school part, and you've got a whole new team new schedule.
Speaker 1: You've got lots of qualifying, So yeah, we're kind of
Speaker 1: towards the end of our fall season and it's nice
Speaker 1: to kind of like know where we're at and be.
Speaker 2: Also, what's what's your hardest class this semester? Do you
Speaker 2: have a move stands out?
Speaker 1: Yes, definitely my Advanced Research and Methods class.
Speaker 2: It sounds like, oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh jeez, that scares me a little bit, quite frank Marty,
Speaker 3: what was your.
Speaker 2: I mean I can only imagine some of the class
Speaker 2: names you took in college. Does one standouts? Maybe a
Speaker 2: class you had to study a little harder in or
Speaker 2: pay a little bit more attention.
Speaker 3: To, Man, I was really bad at like computer programming,
Speaker 3: which is ironic because now I'm like, do make software things?
Speaker 3: But yeah, differential equations, you know, or linear algebra, those
Speaker 3: are some of the tough ones.
Speaker 2: So Preston, I went to you of a our tribal. Obviously,
Speaker 2: I'm married of Sun Devil, so I've kind of gotten
Speaker 2: past all this stuff. But I took an elective and
Speaker 2: it was like Russian Federation class, and about two weeks
Speaker 2: then I went, I think I'm gonna drop. This is
Speaker 2: gonna help me in my broadcasting media career.
Speaker 1: You're actually going through that same problem right now. I
Speaker 1: signed up for a Mediterranean lifestyle class, and like three
Speaker 1: weeks in, I've realized that there's like a one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty pages of reading a week, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I just do not have time for that. I gotta
Speaker 1: drop that.
Speaker 2: So I took to be fair, I took the rushing
Speaker 2: class because the girl liked at the time took the class. Okay,
Speaker 2: that sense convinced to sign up for it, and then
Speaker 2: it didn't work out, and I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I don't think I need to know a whole bunch
Speaker 2: abou Russia at this point in my life. You've had
Speaker 2: a kind of a wild year in golf. I mean
Speaker 2: not just the way you've played, you know, collegiately, but
Speaker 2: the Walker Cup at St. Andrew's. I can only imagine
Speaker 2: when you think about playing in a Walker Cup. It's
Speaker 2: a Walker Cup. It didn't play a Walker Cup at St.
Speaker 2: Andrews as a whole different beast. How has the year been?
Speaker 2: Can you kind of sum up what twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: has been like for you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, twenty twenty three has been incredible. I mean it
Speaker 1: kind of started the year like last spring season, played
Speaker 1: super super well, had a lot of top five finishes,
Speaker 1: had to win, played decent nationals. You know, our team
Speaker 1: didn't go all the way, but it was still a
Speaker 1: great year. Ended up being a first team All American,
Speaker 1: which was one of my goals starting the year. So
Speaker 1: that was awesome. And then you know, summer golf just
Speaker 1: kind of takes off and you're going week to week,
Speaker 1: two week to week, and you know, especially with the
Speaker 1: Walker Cup coming up, you know how important those tournaments are.
Speaker 1: So it was just a super intense summer. But then
Speaker 1: to you know, get the get the call from Captain
Speaker 1: McCoy to be on the Walker Cup at Saint Andrews
Speaker 1: is h I mean, it's really special because you know
Speaker 1: every amateur wants to play at that level at the
Speaker 1: Walker Cup, but to do it in Scotland at Saint Andrews,
Speaker 1: it just made it one hundred times.
Speaker 3: Better pressing, at least, like for me. The beginning of
Speaker 3: the summers, like US Open qualifying, tell I think one
Speaker 3: of the coolest things that you did to kick off
Speaker 3: this summer was I looked at US Open sexuals, saw
Speaker 3: your name, saw your score. You look at them in
Speaker 3: the morning, we're not I didn't make it to sectionals.
Speaker 3: So then I see the final result, I'm like, holy moly,
Speaker 3: what happened here? Tell us the story your second round there?
Speaker 3: Sixty two, Yeah, sixty to get in the to get
Speaker 3: in lacc tell us about that round?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean so Sectionals is always, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's the longest day in golf, and you know it's
Speaker 1: thirty six sols, and thank goodness it's thirty six soles
Speaker 1: because I got out that first day or that first round,
Speaker 1: and you know, it wasn't too harsh on even part
Speaker 1: that morning round, and you know, kind of I knew
Speaker 1: that I had to have the round that I played
Speaker 1: to make it, but it just kind of frees you
Speaker 1: up in the sense where it's like, you know, what
Speaker 1: if I don't go out and have the best round,
Speaker 1: you know, it's fine, I'm gonna play the next tournament.
Speaker 1: But you know, I got off to a great start,
Speaker 1: and you know, I can't really remember how the round went,
Speaker 1: but I know I was probably four or five under
Speaker 1: through the first nine, and you know, from there I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I could definitely do the same on
Speaker 1: the back, and you know, watching the leader board, kind
Speaker 1: of seeing where it's at. I made a couple more
Speaker 1: birdies early on the back nine, and you know, then
Speaker 1: you start getting that buzz and you start feeling that
Speaker 1: pressure and it's a great feeling. And then I knew
Speaker 1: where I was at going on, going into the last
Speaker 1: till I was seven under part five and a tight
Speaker 1: faaraway hit a great drive, had a five iron into
Speaker 1: a back pin, hit that to about fifteen feet and
Speaker 1: then made that put to shoot nine under. And I
Speaker 1: mean that's not even all of it, too, because I
Speaker 1: had to get up the next day to to for
Speaker 1: a playoff to get in because it was a.
Speaker 2: You shoot nine and you got to sleep on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. So I didn't get much sleep that night.
Speaker 1: I mean, thank goodness, my adrenaline was going the next morning,
Speaker 1: so I didn't feel that tired. But yeah, I got
Speaker 1: out that next morning part of the first hole and
Speaker 1: just like that.
Speaker 2: So in the US that your second US Open, because
Speaker 2: I know you played you won the Junior in nineteen,
Speaker 2: is that right? The GENI amter in nineteen. So you
Speaker 2: and Marty both played wing foot in twenty, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: can you compare the two US Open golf courses and experiences,
Speaker 2: because I mean, we have a picture of you, and
Speaker 2: we'll put this up on the YouTube page or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's a great picture considering what you look like now,
Speaker 2: this is three years ago. I mean you were a kid.
Speaker 2: Then you'll go a man now. I mean, what the
Speaker 2: experience is like when you played it in twenty twenty
Speaker 2: as a quote unquote kid, and now you're playing in
Speaker 2: it with someone I can only imagine. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 2: going to go try to make the cut. I can
Speaker 2: maybe potentially contend at this US Open.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I just think that first US Open, I
Speaker 1: mean that was COVID year, so uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: went out there and there were no fans, so the
Speaker 1: atmosphere was a little bit different, but still it's a
Speaker 1: US Open.
Speaker 2: Right at wingfoot, Yeah that wingfoot.
Speaker 1: Which is pretty special. But the cool thing about it
Speaker 1: was because there was no fans, it kind of felt
Speaker 1: like it was a more chill vibe. So I was
Speaker 1: actually able to talk to a lot of players, you know,
Speaker 1: get some really cool practice rounds, and you know, the
Speaker 1: week was amazing. First major. Like you said, I was
Speaker 1: a kid when I played it, so you know, I
Speaker 1: didn't really go into it with much expectations, just trying
Speaker 1: to do the best I could. And then this last
Speaker 1: year at LACC was a little bit different where you know,
Speaker 1: I qualified. I feel like I'm a different player, I'm
Speaker 1: a better player, and now I'm going to go out
Speaker 1: there and try to you know, try to throw up
Speaker 1: some scores and yeah, you know, try to do really well.
Speaker 3: One of the big things PRESS that we've known from
Speaker 3: your stats is how much distance you've gained. I mean,
Speaker 3: you've you've sprouted up, You've been working on your speed
Speaker 3: from twenty you in the fortinet earlier this year on
Speaker 3: holes that had measure drives, you led the field in
Speaker 3: driving distance. I don't even know if you knew that.
Speaker 3: So what how what's that been like? That transformation like
Speaker 3: looking back to twenty which was you know, you didn't
Speaker 3: have that firepower obviously then you need to be briceon
Speaker 3: to win that thing. Yeah, exactly at wing foot to
Speaker 3: now this year where you have a lot more pop.
Speaker 3: What's your ball speed up to? What's your club speed
Speaker 3: up to these days?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So's It was actually a pretty long process and
Speaker 1: I started it really young, and it was it started
Speaker 1: at the US Amateur at Pebble Beach when Victor one.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I was eighteen, is that right? Yep?
Speaker 1: I was playing there as I think I just turned sixteen.
Speaker 1: I played really good and qualifying to get in, and
Speaker 1: I was swinging it around one of three one h
Speaker 1: four miles an hour with the driver, and you know,
Speaker 1: at that age, I was just super confident. I went
Speaker 1: in as a sixteen year old thinking, oh, I'm I
Speaker 1: should win this.
Speaker 2: I want to win this in the US amateur yeah,
Speaker 2: uh huh.
Speaker 1: And you know, Pebble Beach has super thick rough and
Speaker 1: it's a it's not so much a longer course, but
Speaker 1: it definitely it's an advantage to hit it far. Uh.
Speaker 1: So I go there, missed the cut, and I'm just
Speaker 1: like dad, man, I I just I thought I was
Speaker 1: going to do better, and he's like, Preston, you got
Speaker 1: to get longer, you have to swing it faster in
Speaker 1: order to compete in these events. So from then on,
Speaker 1: me and him did speed training at least four to
Speaker 1: five times every single week for the next year. And
Speaker 1: speed training for US isn't really like any kind of
Speaker 1: uh it's not really any kind of workout or process.
Speaker 1: It's literally getting on the range, getting on the track, man,
Speaker 1: and swing it as hard as you can measure yes, okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So every day I was like, okay, this is my
Speaker 1: clubhead speed. I gotta try to swing faster than that,
Speaker 1: faster than that. And you know, in a year I
Speaker 1: went from that one to three to one o four
Speaker 1: to one to eighteen.
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean that's an enormous jump. So you're from
Speaker 2: you're seventeen, you can put it these numbers. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean it's it's wild what you can do, Marty when
Speaker 2: you put the time in. I know you're obviously very
Speaker 2: very obsessed with this with the taxism and everything like that,
Speaker 2: but just having an opportunity to gain speed, even for
Speaker 2: a young player like that, I mean, it's out there
Speaker 2: and it's available.
Speaker 3: Yeah, President, is that when you guys integrated that getting
Speaker 3: a little more vertical. See now in you're swinging, you
Speaker 3: kind of have that drop head draw up the unwaiting movement.
Speaker 3: Was that born from that work or have you always
Speaker 3: kind of had that movement in your.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I've always had that little drop from when
Speaker 1: I was young. But like that was the good thing
Speaker 1: about the way we did speed training is by me
Speaker 1: just trying to generate speed. I learned how to generate
Speaker 1: speed best for me. So instead of thinking, Okay, I
Speaker 1: got to go up and then come back down and
Speaker 1: use the ground to get speed, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: try to swing as hard as I can, and naturally,
Speaker 1: I just learned that.
Speaker 2: Exactly as hard as I can. Yeah, you mentioned your dad,
Speaker 2: by the way, your your dad preceded you on the podcast.
Speaker 2: So it's another win for Boyd. Right. But is there
Speaker 2: like a rule amongst the family that we're not going
Speaker 2: to talk about golf in certain places or certain instances,
Speaker 2: or golf just always talked about?
Speaker 1: No, we talk about golf twenty four Okay, it's actually funny.
Speaker 2: Whatever you don't talk about golf, what do you talk about?
Speaker 1: It's that's so funny. I'm trying to think of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just our whole family is surrounded around golf,
Speaker 1: where every conversation is kind of stemming from that. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's see, we don't talk much about golf on like
Speaker 1: family vacation. Okay, if we go somewhere and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we put the clubs away. But I mean, even though
Speaker 1: we're not talking about we're all thinking about it. We're
Speaker 1: just we're all obsessed.
Speaker 2: You're you're like making holes on vacations, like palm trees.
Speaker 2: I could cut one around that, you.
Speaker 1: Know, we go out to the beach. I was like,
Speaker 1: I can definitely hit a bunker shot off this right now.
Speaker 1: How would I do that? But yeah, that's usually the
Speaker 1: only time we're not talking about it, rustllent.
Speaker 3: Let's talk about a little bit. What uh what's in
Speaker 3: your back?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: You go driver pretty pretty stock set up, which I
Speaker 3: think is really cool for the listeners out there. You
Speaker 3: played pretty stock set up. You've played blueprint irons for
Speaker 3: quite some time. I'd say maybe starting with the irons,
Speaker 3: what about your blueprint irons? Like uh uh kind of
Speaker 3: uh led you into those irons and then related to that,
Speaker 3: are you a shot shaper with your irons on the course.
Speaker 1: Yes, I definitely uh like to like to shape the ball.
Speaker 1: And I think that's why I like the blueprint so
Speaker 1: much is it feels like I can actually try to
Speaker 1: move it a decent amount and it stays it stays
Speaker 1: fairly straight, which I really like. I think it's good
Speaker 1: for a player to try to do something extra and
Speaker 1: not have it do too much. Okay, uh so yeah,
Speaker 1: those blueprints are great. The I love the size of
Speaker 1: the head. I like looking down at something small. I
Speaker 1: feel like it narrows me in make sure I get
Speaker 1: that good contact and uh yeah, it's just really easy
Speaker 1: for me to control my flight, to control the trajectory.
Speaker 1: It's just I mean I've been playing them for I
Speaker 1: think three or four years.
Speaker 3: Now, yes, since they came out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never even thought once about changing them.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to shots, shape, are you moving
Speaker 3: in vertically? And do you do you draw them into
Speaker 3: left pins, fade them into right pins?
Speaker 2: Do you work?
Speaker 3: Do you kind of change? It? Depend on the win conditions?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean everything, everything really depends on the shot
Speaker 1: that you're hitting. And uh, you know, on golf, I
Speaker 1: think that's one of the best things about the sport
Speaker 1: is that there's so much variety, you know, on certain lies,
Speaker 1: PM positions wins uh, and you can just hit lots
Speaker 1: of different shots, so lots of different pins.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: But for me, I think the biggest thing is being
Speaker 1: able to see from behind the ball exactly what I
Speaker 1: wanted to do. And like you said, with draws and cuts,
Speaker 1: I used to only be able to cut the ball
Speaker 1: and in the last year or so, I've been you know,
Speaker 1: working a little bit more on the draw and that's
Speaker 1: allowed me to stay aggressive well, actually playing more towards
Speaker 1: center than greens, because I mean, if if I can
Speaker 1: only hit a cut to the left pin, I really
Speaker 1: got to start my cut, you know, trouble trouble, and
Speaker 1: you know, if it stays straight, I'm gonna be short sighted,
Speaker 1: especially to a left pin. So being able to actually
Speaker 1: work the ball right to left, I'm able to stay aggressive,
Speaker 1: but start my ball at the center of the green,
Speaker 1: and if it stays straight, it's it's just gonna be
Speaker 1: a twenty footer.
Speaker 2: I mean, your relationship with Tony final has been well
Speaker 2: to outed. I mean we've talked a lot about it.
Speaker 2: I know you've talked about it on podcasts before. I
Speaker 2: know when this episode comes out, you'll have played at
Speaker 2: another PGA Tour event, the Worldwide Technology Championship in Mexico.
Speaker 2: How much is playing with guys like Tony and John
Speaker 2: and even your college teammates, now, how much does that
Speaker 2: help prepare you for these moments when you're on the stage,
Speaker 2: You're playing with PGA Tour players in a PGA Tour event,
Speaker 2: knowing in your brain, I'm playing with two top ten
Speaker 2: players in the world at home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy, and I cannot say enough good things
Speaker 1: about Tony and John. But it's just I feel extremely
Speaker 1: lucky to be able to play with them, to be
Speaker 1: able to play with them a lot. And you know,
Speaker 1: like they said or like you said, they're like extremely
Speaker 1: good players, top in the world. So to be able
Speaker 1: to see what they do and kind of compare it
Speaker 1: to my game and see where, you know, I kind
Speaker 1: of match with them, where oh, I have these same qualities,
Speaker 1: and then also seeing the other side of oh, they
Speaker 1: do this really good and I need to get better
Speaker 1: at that.
Speaker 2: What's been like, what was the most shocking thing when
Speaker 2: you really I mean, I know you've known Tony for
Speaker 2: a long time, but when you started to grow and
Speaker 2: you got bigger and you were getting competitive and you
Speaker 2: became one of the best aameters in the world, where
Speaker 2: did you see the gap the most from your game
Speaker 2: to their game and where you wanted to improve.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I think one of the biggest things I
Speaker 1: worked on in the last couple of years is definitely
Speaker 1: my ball striking. Okay, and you know, I watched and
Speaker 1: everyone knows him as this power player that has insane speed.
Speaker 1: I don't think they realize how straight he hits it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and how.
Speaker 3: Accurate his iron hits. His iron stats are off the charge.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He does not get enough credit for how accurate it is.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what makes him a great player,
Speaker 1: is that he is both a power player and an
Speaker 1: accuracy player. So, you know, I was talking a minute
Speaker 1: ago about you know, I finally got that speed in
Speaker 1: that distance, and now it's just time for me to
Speaker 1: kind of zone it in and try to be as
Speaker 1: accurate as I can.
Speaker 3: Preston. I've met some parents that have their kids playing
Speaker 3: at courses that they feel like we're too easy, and
Speaker 3: this was always very interesting to me. They felt like
Speaker 3: they need to get their kids on a course that's
Speaker 3: harder to challenge him more. You guys played Silberle. If
Speaker 3: you guys are shooting, there's that one round you shot
Speaker 3: sixty Did you wait? You've shot sixty out there right?
Speaker 1: I know the round you're talking about is Tony's fifty nine.
Speaker 3: Fifty nine. Me and John both shot sixty three.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sixty two or sixty three, and the I spent
Speaker 1: sixty six.
Speaker 3: What is the value of playing. It's not like silver
Speaker 3: leaf is a pitching pot, but you got you can't
Speaker 3: make some birdies out there. What is the value to
Speaker 3: you of being of playing those rounds where you get
Speaker 3: really under part Because it seems like you've been able
Speaker 3: to bring that to some big time talked about US
Speaker 3: Open qualifying. You've shot low round in the regionals or
Speaker 3: sectionals in Vegas last year in a tournament. You've been
Speaker 3: able to bring taking it deep to the course. What
Speaker 3: is that?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 3: What value does that have to be able to do
Speaker 3: that in some of your in your you know, practice
Speaker 3: rounds with the boys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh, it's extremely valuable. And you know, I
Speaker 1: think to like all the parents out there who think
Speaker 1: that there the course their kids are playing or it
Speaker 1: is too tough. Uh. You know, I grew up on
Speaker 1: some some pretty easy courses, and I think it's really
Speaker 1: important for juniors to learn how to go low and
Speaker 1: to also be comfortable going low, because I remember that
Speaker 1: as a kid. Uh. You know, obviously, when you don't
Speaker 1: hit it far, you can make a course as tough
Speaker 1: as you want if you play the back teas. But
Speaker 1: there are a couple of rounds where I'd just go
Speaker 1: up a couple of tea boxes, a te box or two,
Speaker 1: and you know, just try to go as low as
Speaker 1: I can. And what I noticed is that usually when
Speaker 1: I started to get around for five under, You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a new feeling for me. I'm about to
Speaker 1: shoot my lowest round. And you know that's where kind
Speaker 1: of the pressure comes in. And you know, being able
Speaker 1: to play a lot of rounds where you go that low,
Speaker 1: you just get more comfortable with it, where once you
Speaker 1: get to four or five six under, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I've been here before. Yeah, I know what I can
Speaker 1: do coming in, Like I'm I'm used to the situation
Speaker 1: and I know what I need to do to play
Speaker 1: good coming in. So I think it's extremely valuable.
Speaker 2: Can I ask both of you guys a question about
Speaker 2: that point? Marty, I'll start with you. I've always struggled
Speaker 2: with the going low thing, right, Like I get to
Speaker 2: two or three and that next step to get to
Speaker 2: five and get to six, I will almost I guess
Speaker 2: i'd put it. I'd try to maintain where I'm at,
Speaker 2: versus continue to try to push fold doll on pedal.
Speaker 2: What do you what's the y'all's mentality, And Marty, I'd
Speaker 2: like to hear from you first, But what's the mentality
Speaker 2: when you are at that two, three, four under numbers,
Speaker 2: you're making the turn, you're through ten holes to keep
Speaker 2: to keep the foot on the gas pedal.
Speaker 3: I think to me, Shane, it would be if I'm
Speaker 3: playing in a tournament, I know the other guys are
Speaker 3: coming got you know, so like you're like, if you don't,
Speaker 3: you know, if Preston doesn't keep it going in that
Speaker 3: in that you's not getting your sectional, that's not happening.
Speaker 3: So I think some of the events I'll play in,
Speaker 3: maybe local stuff, section stuff courses are scorable. You know
Speaker 3: that your competition. They're not afraid to go deep. So
Speaker 3: I think that's what at least to me helps me
Speaker 3: keep me going, is like you got you gotta beat
Speaker 3: these guys. These guys are good. There's good players everywhere,
Speaker 3: and they're they know how to go low, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah and press it. Just I mean when when did
Speaker 2: what did that gear switch for you in your mind
Speaker 2: to be able to kind of keep trying to go
Speaker 2: deep and get lower and lower and lower on the round.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the more that I just worked or sorry,
Speaker 1: the more that I confidence in my game. Uh, the
Speaker 1: more confidence I had out on the course when I
Speaker 1: got to that number, Whereas like, Okay, I've played good
Speaker 1: for the first ten holes, Like really, what's going to
Speaker 1: change with my game? Like if I just keep on,
Speaker 1: if I just stick to my game plan and just
Speaker 1: keep on doing the same things, eventually I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: keep on making birdies. And you know, I think, uh,
Speaker 1: that's a big problem that a lot of people make
Speaker 1: is once they get to there, is get to that
Speaker 1: point like four or five under, they start to thinking, Okay, now,
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to.
Speaker 2: Lose it, right, Like, I don't know, I'm there. I
Speaker 2: did what I need to do, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And usually what I think is, I mean, if
Speaker 1: I could get to three or four under going into
Speaker 1: the back, I was like, if I have a good back,
Speaker 1: nine I could shoot, I could shoot eight or nine.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of my mentality going into it, rather
Speaker 1: than trying not to lose it.
Speaker 2: Gotcha. Okay, So I'm I've talked to Boyd about this
Speaker 2: as well, But I find the family dynamic with you
Speaker 2: guys very appealing. And when I say that, I mean
Speaker 2: it's not fake like watching boys Instagram stories, and sometimes
Speaker 2: they're the small dots, you know. I mean sometimes you'll
Speaker 2: get into like the dot Instagram stories, but I mean
Speaker 2: it's deep dive stuff on the tournaments. What I find
Speaker 2: so cool is you guys are out there rooting each
Speaker 2: other on. You're caddying for your sister. I remember when
Speaker 2: you won a junior. I think you you flew to
Speaker 2: Wisconsin and caddy for Grace that week, right flew?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I won the junior. I'm pretty sure I took
Speaker 1: a red eye the next night to Stephen's. Actually, no,
Speaker 1: were we drove, did you?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: We drove. It was like from.
Speaker 2: Stephens, Wisconsin. But I mean, like it's it's really genuine.
Speaker 2: What's it like having a sister at ASU, And what
Speaker 2: is the dynamic like in terms of competition, Like what
Speaker 2: do you guys do to push each other now that
Speaker 2: you're both collegiate players at the same university.
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny even though we're both collegiate players
Speaker 1: right now, we're doing the same exact thing that we
Speaker 1: were doing when we were eleven, twelve, thirteen. Like, I mean,
Speaker 1: we were very close. We're very close family, so we
Speaker 1: basically are spending all day every day together. Uh. Now,
Speaker 1: obviously being in college it's a little bit different, but
Speaker 1: growing up, I mean it was we were together all
Speaker 1: the time. We were always trying to beat each other,
Speaker 1: and we were always competing against each other. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, from there, I think it's it's cool to,
Speaker 1: you know, then go out and support your your family,
Speaker 1: And it's great because even though we are competing against
Speaker 1: each other, and we do want to be each other
Speaker 1: so bad, we want to see each other succeed so bad.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's I mean, Marty, when you watch it,
Speaker 2: I mean when you get the seed and you've seen
Speaker 2: that you've known these these guys since there were kids,
Speaker 2: like young kids. I mean when you see him caddying
Speaker 2: and you see him win golf tournaments and literally drop
Speaker 2: what they were doing, leave the trophy somewhere and go
Speaker 2: support the next day. I mean, like I have little kids,
Speaker 2: like I hope that they're a twentieth of what we
Speaker 2: see from the summer, you.
Speaker 3: Know, and it goes beyond you guys. I mean, your
Speaker 3: uncle Joe is playing in the Senior US Open this year,
Speaker 3: So your sister played in the women's, you played in
Speaker 3: the men's. He's playing in the senior I compete against him.
Speaker 3: Daniel was in here earlier today getting his clubs worked on.
Speaker 2: We're calling him on KFT coverage. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: it's like so wild, Like I see the summer in
Speaker 2: his name more than I see Woods and Nicholson these days.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like very very authentic in terms of
Speaker 2: golf stuff. It's very cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one thing, yeah, go ahead, And president just going
Speaker 1: back to like how much do we support each other?
Speaker 1: Like Kim my little brother Cam, he's he's gonna be
Speaker 1: fifty sixteen tomorrow, and uh, he just won his first
Speaker 1: high school high school match yesterday. And you should have
Speaker 1: seen our group, our group chat Boyd sending videos every
Speaker 1: every five minutes. We're all going crazy, and you know
Speaker 1: he made he made like a good six seven footer
Speaker 1: on the last hole to win, and we just we
Speaker 1: went wild real quick.
Speaker 2: What's the game when you three play who's giving shots,
Speaker 2: who's getting shots? And what's the game you guys play
Speaker 2: against each other?
Speaker 1: So it's usually, uh, it's usually me and can VORs,
Speaker 1: Grace and Boyd. Okay, yeah, and uh that's usually our
Speaker 1: straight up, straight up and we play tiebreaker too everyone's counting.
Speaker 1: We want it to be. That's that's a big thing
Speaker 1: with our competition was we're trying to simulate tournament pressure
Speaker 1: as best we can. So when we're having a two
Speaker 1: v two game, we're making sure everybody counts, so you know,
Speaker 1: if two guys birdie, it's going to that next ball pressing.
Speaker 3: When we interviewed your dad, he said every time he
Speaker 3: grew up playing golf, there was always something on the
Speaker 3: line every single round. Have you ever played around a
Speaker 3: golf where there's something not on the line, Like you
Speaker 3: just go play and whatever happens happens. Or is there
Speaker 3: always are you always playing for something?
Speaker 1: I mean it's always pride, nobody, nobody in our family
Speaker 1: likes to lose. Yeah, uh so, I mean it doesn't
Speaker 1: really matter if we are playing for something or if
Speaker 1: we're not playing for something. We all want to win
Speaker 1: so bad where it's I mean, it's like we're playing
Speaker 1: for something. Uh huh.
Speaker 2: I was I was asked by your father to ask
Speaker 2: you who's the best ping pong player on the A
Speaker 2: SU golf team. Right now, it seems like maybe it's
Speaker 2: not you, is what I'm I'm I'm getting from this.
Speaker 1: No it's not me, unfortunately, and it hurts to say that. Okay,
Speaker 1: So I'm really lucky to live in a house with
Speaker 1: with a couple of my teammates and we put a
Speaker 1: ping pong table in this last year and me and
Speaker 1: me and my teammate Rix Johnston go at it every
Speaker 1: single Yeah. Rax is really good. Rax is just like
Speaker 1: a freak athlete.
Speaker 2: Is a plus five handicap ping player?
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably, but yeah it gets intense too. Like I'd
Speaker 1: probably say I get more intents in ping pong than
Speaker 1: I do than I do on the golf course.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a book and paddles I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, uh huh. So, yeah, we usually have one
Speaker 1: or two best of seven game series every night, and
Speaker 1: unfortunately he beats me more. It's okay, more than I be.
Speaker 2: It's important as adults to admit when you're not as good.
Speaker 1: I'm really glad my dad asks you to ask me that.
Speaker 3: Preston, you've made some One of the things that's impressed
Speaker 3: me a lot about watching you is how many clutch
Speaker 3: putts you've made. What I know, I think part of
Speaker 3: it is you guys. You're always you're trying to stimulate
Speaker 3: the termament pressure. You've kind of grown up with that.
Speaker 3: But what is your process on those big putts, whether
Speaker 3: it's to get the US open the putt to win
Speaker 3: the ASU event last year on the eighteenth toll, what
Speaker 3: you know? Uh, the you know putts you've had in
Speaker 3: the Walker Cup, the Junior am. What is your process
Speaker 3: you know when you have a big putt or you're
Speaker 3: just going through your routine.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, I think one of the biggest things
Speaker 1: is confidence. When I get to a putt that I
Speaker 1: know I need to make or I I have one
Speaker 1: confidence I'm capable that I'm capable to make any put Uh.
Speaker 1: So I think that's a big thing. And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny. I really like to daydream, Like before I
Speaker 1: go to bed, I just start daydreaming, or when I'm driving,
Speaker 1: and every time it just goes back to certain moments.
Speaker 1: There's certain putts and I just go back and replay.
Speaker 1: I just try to fill my mind with confidence that,
Speaker 1: you know, when there's a big putt on the line,
Speaker 1: I can make it. And then you know, when it
Speaker 1: kind of goes down to like the routine, I honestly
Speaker 1: couldn't tell you I feel like when there's a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on the line, I completely zone out, just
Speaker 1: like a yes, h. I can't tell you what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: I will say I depend greatly on my eyes, and
Speaker 1: I feel I'll take more looks, I'll visualize it probably
Speaker 1: a little bit more intently, and uh, I'll just let
Speaker 1: my eyes of the work and you know, I'm confident
Speaker 1: that I'm going to make that.
Speaker 3: But from the outside looking in, it looks like you
Speaker 3: were absolutely locked in. Yeah, and I've I've aspired to that,
Speaker 3: you know, looking at your routine. I need to be
Speaker 3: more intense, you know, yeah, and be totally locked in.
Speaker 3: It's been fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 2: Speaking of clutch, can we talk about the shot at
Speaker 2: the seventeenth the Walker Cup?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Is that pin pack left?
Speaker 1: Is that Ken was back?
Speaker 3: So it was?
Speaker 2: It was over the bunker yep. And so I mean,
Speaker 2: if nobody's played st Andrews before, there's no where to
Speaker 2: hit that. How much do you have in And is
Speaker 2: that one of the best shots, if not the best
Speaker 2: shot you've ever hit.
Speaker 1: That's definitely one of the clutchest shots I've ever hit.
Speaker 2: I mean, do you remember yardage wise?
Speaker 1: It was probably around one fifty four to probably one
Speaker 1: fifty eight something in that range, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just one of those big moments again Walker Cup.
Speaker 1: We're getting beat badly. We desperately need a point or
Speaker 1: a half on the board, and you know, I hit
Speaker 1: it left. Obviously, don't want to do that. I want
Speaker 1: to do the hotel. So I go left and I'm
Speaker 1: in the right, but I'm gonna divotol And that's a
Speaker 1: good thing because now I can generate some spin on
Speaker 1: the ball and you know, the wind is hard right
Speaker 1: to left, and you know, this is kind of where
Speaker 1: that creativity comes into play, and you know, being able
Speaker 1: to shape shots with the blueprints. I had somewhere in
Speaker 1: that range of fifty four to fifty eight, and I
Speaker 1: was thinking, Okay, if I need to hold the screen,
Speaker 1: I need something that's gonna land really soft. And with
Speaker 1: the right to left wind, I was like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: I actually hit a slice, it's gonna fight that win
Speaker 1: so much where it's actually going to turn from crosswind
Speaker 1: to back into the world. Okay, yep, and I take
Speaker 1: like two clubs extra did.
Speaker 2: You like seven iron?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, open up the face, aim left and that
Speaker 1: swing left and it's just perfect. It comes out left
Speaker 1: side of the green and it's a hard right to
Speaker 1: left wind, so anything that's fighting against it is like
Speaker 1: it's a pretty big slice and it's nice. I can
Speaker 1: finally see it starting to be soft, and you know,
Speaker 1: it lands and people are expecting it to like take
Speaker 1: a huge bounce or roll out and it just kind
Speaker 1: of one hop and stops, and you know, I have
Speaker 1: a I have like a fifteen footer to tie the
Speaker 1: match going into eighteen. It was pretty special.
Speaker 2: I mean, Marty, you've you've been to Saint Andrewship, you
Speaker 2: you've played her on that golf course. I mean that's
Speaker 2: just like when I would caddy there, you would not
Speaker 2: tell average players even that the pin was on the green.
Speaker 2: No hit it thirty yards right, tried hit it on eighteen.
Speaker 2: T Like, we're not messing with the hitting it over there,
Speaker 2: because we're gonna be on the roader in the bunker
Speaker 2: and it's gonna think us half an hour.
Speaker 1: And you know what's the funny thing too, is every
Speaker 1: time we played that hole in the practice round, everyone's
Speaker 1: hitting putts from twenty thirty feet left of the pin. Yep,
Speaker 1: like off the green. That's just where you're supposed to
Speaker 1: hit it, because if you go right, then it's like
Speaker 1: in the neck it's really tight and you either have
Speaker 1: a weird up and over you hit it onto the road.
Speaker 1: So the play there is to just go left.
Speaker 2: But it would speaking of that, I would tell like
Speaker 2: average regular golfers to do that, and nobody would listen
Speaker 2: to me. Yeah, They're like, what's this American caddy telling
Speaker 2: me to do? I'm like, no, I promise hit it left.
Speaker 2: It's actually okay over there.
Speaker 3: President. I think one thing going back to your putter
Speaker 3: is fun. You like the blueprint irons because they're small.
Speaker 3: One of the reason you like and they're small, they
Speaker 3: help you get focused in Yeah, we designed that fetch
Speaker 3: putter yea. He it goes in the hole fetch, which
Speaker 3: is kind of fun. But b it's been a super
Speaker 3: popular putter for a lot of golfers because it's a
Speaker 3: little bit smaller. The face is small, helps to give
Speaker 3: you that focus. So tell us about how you got
Speaker 3: in that putter. You know, what was the process. You've
Speaker 3: used some an answer over the years and things of
Speaker 3: that nature. But what do you like about the fetch?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So, I like you said, so I used the Voss
Speaker 1: for about five six years and that was that was
Speaker 1: my putter. That was my baby.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy game. Sometimes things get off, and you
Speaker 1: know I came into ping one day I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: I just I just need a different look. I wanted
Speaker 1: to go something more Mallet style.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But another thing about the Voss is the Voss is
Speaker 1: also a smaller fig exactly. So I like looking down
Speaker 1: at something that's slightly smaller, a little bit more compact.
Speaker 1: And you know, I loved how the Fetch had the
Speaker 1: top line that you know, kind of ran on the
Speaker 1: top of the face, yeph and you know, it has
Speaker 1: the sight lines on the side. It was just a
Speaker 1: very clean looking putter, and you know, got hit some
Speaker 1: putts in the lab and you know it was really good. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then from there I just kind of started filling
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 3: So a compact Mallet, right. The cool story about the Voss,
Speaker 3: So Corey Bacon, no relations.
Speaker 2: Shut up by the way, I brought them ball markers
Speaker 2: this time.
Speaker 3: Actually, So Corey good player himself. He is won the
Speaker 3: Arizona Stadium and stroke play. He designed the Voss and
Speaker 3: in his whole concept with what with behind it is
Speaker 3: to make an answer style putter with the ball with
Speaker 3: cavity to help you get that focus and give you
Speaker 3: that smaller look. That's why we put that in the
Speaker 3: Voss is our Putter in our Prodigy Junior set, which
Speaker 3: is pretty cool for that exact same reason. It kind
Speaker 3: of helped the kiddos instead of giving a big mallet,
Speaker 3: give him something that helps him focus a little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's great.
Speaker 2: What's it like going to college kind of getting away
Speaker 2: from your parents, getting away from your family, kind of
Speaker 2: owning your own time, owning your own practice, like laying
Speaker 2: out your own schedule. What's that been like over the
Speaker 2: last two and a half years or so for you
Speaker 2: to kind of I don't want to say grow up
Speaker 2: because it I mean it feels like you're an adult
Speaker 2: at sixteen, seventeen years old, but you know, take that
Speaker 2: kind of next leak into adulthood.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, it's been not gonna lie. It was
Speaker 1: a hard transition. You know, I can't imagine. You know,
Speaker 1: some of my teammates who have are international, coming from overseas.
Speaker 1: I was getting super homesick and I live thirty minutes
Speaker 1: away and I can go back whenever I want. So
Speaker 1: it was definitely a transition, especially being so close to
Speaker 1: my family for my entire life. It is just an
Speaker 1: extremely new experience.
Speaker 2: Did you all force yourself to not go home? Like,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's easy to go home, right,
Speaker 2: be easy to drive up, you know, the two of
Speaker 2: two and you're there, right. Was it something where you
Speaker 2: went I'm not going to immediately go home when I
Speaker 2: fill that home sickness. I'm gonna kind of handle it myself.
Speaker 1: No, I definitely went home here. Yeah, I definitely went home.
Speaker 1: I probably went home too much, but yeah, and then
Speaker 1: kind of this last year and a half has been
Speaker 1: it's been great because now you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: learned to live on my own what I need to do,
Speaker 1: learn my routines, and you know, make new friends. It's
Speaker 1: super nice living living in our house with the golf guys.
Speaker 1: That makes it a lot of fun. But college has
Speaker 1: been has just been an amazing experience. And yeah, just
Speaker 1: being an adult now, I mean I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: still a kid, but yeah, it's just been great.
Speaker 3: Preston, where do you think you need to get better
Speaker 3: over the next say, one year and then maybe five
Speaker 3: to ten. What part of your game or strategy, fitness,
Speaker 3: what have you do you feel like you're you need
Speaker 3: to focus on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this's actually a great question because you know, as
Speaker 1: our season's kind of slowing down. At least once or
Speaker 1: twice a year, I like to do a really in
Speaker 1: depth strengths and weakness chart. And I did it about
Speaker 1: a week ago and it took me a couple of days.
Speaker 1: It it's ten pages long.
Speaker 3: Wow, And you know, I think.
Speaker 1: Trying to play golf at the highest level, you need
Speaker 1: to be very aware and then also to you need
Speaker 1: to be able to create a plan in order to
Speaker 1: change your and change your weaknesses. So it was three
Speaker 1: pages of strengths, two pages of weaknesses, one page of
Speaker 1: off season goals, and then the rest of the pages
Speaker 1: were the process of how I'm going to change those
Speaker 1: weaknesses into strengths. And I think the big thing that
Speaker 1: I came up with was I feel like I can
Speaker 1: get a lot sharper with my wedges. And that's a
Speaker 1: big thing because of the distance I've gotten, so you know,
Speaker 1: like approach, uh huh, okay, yeah, stuff and more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of that seventy seventy to one thirty range. I
Speaker 1: feel like if I get elite that my game is
Speaker 1: going to go to another level, and it's just because
Speaker 1: I'm hitting it far. So I have so many wedges
Speaker 1: now where if I can really sharpen that up, I'm
Speaker 1: going to give myself so many more birdie looks. So
Speaker 1: that's one of my big goals. And then, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: just trying to keep my body healthy. Uh, nowadays it
Speaker 1: feels like I'm going from week to week to week
Speaker 1: to week to week. So it's super important to kind
Speaker 1: of create a recovery routine or a pre round post
Speaker 1: round routine just to make sure that your body's always good,
Speaker 1: because I mean, you can play this game for a
Speaker 1: while if you're healthy. And I think, uh, to accomplish
Speaker 1: the goals I want to accomplish, I need to stay healthy.
Speaker 2: Marty. What was your when you were twenty twenty one
Speaker 2: years old? How was your post golf recovery situation going?
Speaker 2: Was it like, sure, even what that was like, You're
Speaker 2: just eating unhealthy food and just like going to the
Speaker 2: next party. In college, Yes, so I don't think I
Speaker 2: was thinking much about recovery.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you I was into carbloading. I thought that
Speaker 3: man donut.
Speaker 2: Things that James this is amazing. I mean a days
Speaker 2: were tough, Like jokes aside, do you think about that stuff?
Speaker 2: Like do you think about diet? I mean, do you
Speaker 2: guys talk about that with with coach and things like that,
Speaker 2: like what to eat tournament weeks because I mean, listen,
Speaker 2: metabolism is gonna tabolism when you're young, But when you're
Speaker 2: trying to play peak level golf and beat the college
Speaker 2: players out there right now, those are the small things
Speaker 2: that can make a difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I should be better about that.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, again, you're still young.
Speaker 1: I should be better about that. I think I can
Speaker 1: get away with it because of how young I am.
Speaker 1: But you know, if I just go out on the
Speaker 1: road to make sure I don't eat the worst foods possible, I.
Speaker 3: Feel like I'm going to be okay.
Speaker 1: Like if I if I look down the menu and
Speaker 1: I just don't pick the worst thing possible for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, that's a win.
Speaker 2: Well, that's like the calorie count on the menus. Now
Speaker 2: we're brutal when you go. I actually like that it's
Speaker 2: three thousand calories. That's the appetizer at Chili's. I can't
Speaker 2: add that.
Speaker 3: If you got a thirty six whole day the next
Speaker 3: day you got it.
Speaker 2: You gotta say, it's like the It's like carbloating in Americas.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Going back to the junior am that you won, I
Speaker 2: was wondering, was there a moment in your junior career
Speaker 2: where something clicked or something happened with your golf game
Speaker 2: where you went, oh, wow, I do have the ability
Speaker 2: to go out there, because you're talking about potentially whinning
Speaker 2: the US Amateur as a sixteen year old. Yeah, did
Speaker 2: something happen when you were young where you went, I
Speaker 2: am really good at this game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that was that was probably I really thought
Speaker 1: that I could like win these big tournaments when I
Speaker 1: was I had just won the Utah State Amateur at fifteen.
Speaker 1: I was the youngest du back to back I did
Speaker 1: yuh huh. This was the first one though. I I
Speaker 1: wanted to take my my uncle's record of the youngest,
Speaker 1: so kind of at that point, I played a great player,
Speaker 1: Kyle Kyle d duncle who was a he was an
Speaker 1: All American senior at Utah. He was in at least
Speaker 1: eighty yards by me, and uh won that thirty six
Speaker 1: whole day, and you know, kind of from there, I
Speaker 1: just started to see my goals and my aspirations a
Speaker 1: little bit differently the junior.
Speaker 3: Am some of the I mean, you'd beat Akha right
Speaker 3: on your way, which is kind of funny to think
Speaker 3: about PG tour.
Speaker 2: Oh, Marty, Marty, we were covering that thing, and it
Speaker 2: was like circle this potential matchup, you know, because you know,
Speaker 2: I mean those things as you know in the amateurs
Speaker 2: or anything, I know, the dream matchups typically don't happen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the fact that you're getting pressed and Aucua, we're
Speaker 2: like sign us up, popcorn in the.
Speaker 1: Booth, here we go.
Speaker 3: So what what were some of those matches there? What
Speaker 3: was that match like? And then I think one of
Speaker 3: the matches you came down, you know, you came back
Speaker 3: a long way to capture it. So uh what was
Speaker 3: what were some of the key moment moments on your
Speaker 3: way to win that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it was a long time ago. Uh,
Speaker 1: I'm having a hard time remembering, but daydream about yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, but yeah, that match against Akshay going in,
Speaker 1: I was definitely an underdog. I didn't play any a
Speaker 1: jagas he's the guy that's winning every single event possible.
Speaker 1: But you know what my dad talked to me. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, this is a really great opportunity. I
Speaker 1: actually don't have anything to lose. He's he's supposed to
Speaker 1: beat me because he's just an incredible player. He is
Speaker 1: a phenom at that age. So going in I was like, man,
Speaker 1: if I could win this, like win this match, this
Speaker 1: would be pretty special. And you know, I went out
Speaker 1: there and I just had an amazing ball striking round,
Speaker 1: amazing ball striking round, made some good putts and you know,
Speaker 1: ended up winning one up till I get to the
Speaker 1: next match.
Speaker 2: Well, was was the was the mat did championship match
Speaker 2: against Bojin? When you hit the shot on sixteen that
Speaker 2: you were like, you were way left and you hit
Speaker 2: that crazy good show? Was that sixteen? That was seventeen seventeen, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I mean it was like in theory you're dead, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you hit this unbelievable shot hole high I remember.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that hole was actually crazy because you know,
Speaker 1: thirty six hole match the morning eighteen on that hole,
Speaker 1: me and my dad noticed that actually going down fifteen
Speaker 1: yep fairway, it makes the hole a lot shorter and
Speaker 1: it's actually an easier angle into that pin. So I
Speaker 1: went down the other fairway in the morning ended up
Speaker 1: winning that hole. So we get there in the afternoon
Speaker 1: and it's a hard left to right wind, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm still young. I still make dumb mistakes, and I
Speaker 1: just underplay the wind, put it right into like the
Speaker 1: center of the trees. I get up there, and you know,
Speaker 1: this is kind of where that confidence comes into play,
Speaker 1: where it's not like, hmm, that could go wrong, that
Speaker 1: could go wrong, that could go wrong. I look up
Speaker 1: and I say this one window, and I'm like, yep,
Speaker 1: I'm hitting it right there.
Speaker 2: I mean I remember because I think maybe on sixteen,
Speaker 2: both three putted from a pretty comfortable spot right you
Speaker 2: had like twenty feet Andy three putted, and I think
Speaker 2: you won that hole, either to level the match or
Speaker 2: go one up. Yeah, and then you hit that shot
Speaker 2: on seventeen and it was like all right, game over,
Speaker 2: who we go?
Speaker 1: That was easily the best shot of my career in
Speaker 1: the most intendine situation.
Speaker 2: You have so many people in your life that are
Speaker 2: involved in golf, and not just your family. I mean
Speaker 2: we talked about Tony. I mean you've become buddies with
Speaker 2: John ram. I know you talk about evaluating your own
Speaker 2: golf game. How important is it for you to do
Speaker 2: the evaluation and not text Tony what do I need
Speaker 2: to prove on? Or text BOYD what I need to
Speaker 2: improve on? Like, how important is for you to look
Speaker 2: at your own golf game and be able to kind of,
Speaker 2: you know, outline what works and what doesn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that's probably one of the biggest
Speaker 1: things that I've taken away from actually being at college,
Speaker 1: you know, just living at home and having my dad
Speaker 1: as a coach and playing with a lot of great
Speaker 1: players day in and day out. They kind of do
Speaker 1: the work for you, tell you what you need to improve.
Speaker 1: And then once I got to college, start seeing my
Speaker 1: dad less. I'm more on my own. I have to
Speaker 1: be more responsible for my game, and I actually I
Speaker 1: actually started learning my game a lot better where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to hit it if I feel this,
Speaker 1: but you know, I can get around the course doing this.
Speaker 1: So instead of people telling me exactly what I need
Speaker 1: to do, I kind of just learned from myself, and
Speaker 1: I think that's been super valuable to me and something
Speaker 1: that I've definitely improved on in the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: It's being more aware of my game press.
Speaker 3: I'm asking you a related question. When we talked to
Speaker 3: you when we had your dad on the pod, he
Speaker 3: made some mistakes and equipment when he got on the tour,
Speaker 3: and one of the things we talked about his process
Speaker 3: of helping you and and all of his students would
Speaker 3: be make sure something's not off in the equipment. First,
Speaker 3: he said, you're not a complainer, Tony's not a complainer.
Speaker 3: Something's going on or maybe it's a mechanical issue. So
Speaker 3: related to that, do you feel like you've you've been
Speaker 3: able to highlight areas like if something's off on your driver,
Speaker 3: can you notice it yourself now? Or is that your
Speaker 3: dad or or or Kenton or Brad helping you out?
Speaker 1: Yeah? So, I mean usually when I come into ping,
Speaker 1: I always leave hitting it good, good thing. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: guys get me right obviously, the equipment is uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's good for me. So, uh, you know, once
Speaker 1: I come in actually quite often, especially before big events,
Speaker 1: because obviously that's the first thing we look at. We
Speaker 1: want to make sure that our equipment is good and
Speaker 1: it's fit to us and kind of our shots and
Speaker 1: and shape. So I come in a decent amount for that.
Speaker 1: But you know, once I'm once I come out and
Speaker 1: you know, I start hitting, then I put it all
Speaker 1: on myself. And I think that's what's important with coming
Speaker 1: in here so often, is that I can always when
Speaker 1: I am hitting it bad, I can't blame myself rather
Speaker 1: than the club.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, what changes did you make any tweaks on
Speaker 3: your driver or something before the Walker Cup? Before the
Speaker 3: Walker Cup, tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, you know at the at the us
Speaker 1: AM Cherry Hill, I hit my driver that good, and
Speaker 1: you know that's not really of course, where you hit
Speaker 1: a ton of drivers. So uh, but I noticed that
Speaker 1: there was a couple of shots that I didn't really like,
Speaker 1: or a couple of swings that I felt like I
Speaker 1: swung it good and it just didn't go in the
Speaker 1: right direction. Uh So, once I figured out I was
Speaker 1: playing at Saint Andrews, as I called Brad, I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you mind if I come in here, just get everything
Speaker 1: checked out, probably try a couple of different shafts, see
Speaker 1: if I can try to start getting this ball a
Speaker 1: little bit more online. And you know, came in did
Speaker 1: some good work. It felt like when I was coming down,
Speaker 1: the clubhead was a little bit more behind, uh, and
Speaker 1: that's where I was getting my right miss So we
Speaker 1: tried something that was a little bit stiffer, felt like
Speaker 1: the clubhead was slightly more on top or outside, and
Speaker 1: you know, fix it like that.
Speaker 2: Coming out lower at all. I mean, obviously going to
Speaker 2: Saint Andrew's playing in the wind, did you want it
Speaker 2: to look a little lower kind of off the face.
Speaker 1: Uh, not quite. I'm actually, uh, that's.
Speaker 2: One of you can launch it. I mean you can
Speaker 2: launch it really really hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that.
Speaker 1: I would probably say that's one of my strengths is
Speaker 1: I'm able to kind of control my trajectory pretty well.
Speaker 1: So if I want to hit it low than I can.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And then actually, another big thing about coming in here.
Speaker 1: Right before sat Andrews, I was like, hey, Brad, give
Speaker 1: me the hottest iron you could possibly make.
Speaker 2: What was it? What was the hottest iron?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: It was a it a cross, Yeah, it was cross.
Speaker 1: It was a crossover like three iron, but it was
Speaker 1: turned down and it was so funny because I mean
Speaker 1: it is a missile.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Andrews.
Speaker 1: I was hitting my two iron maybe like twenty yards
Speaker 1: past other guys's three woods. Really Yeah, so you're ninety three,
Speaker 1: he's I mean, obviously it depends on the wind for sure,
Speaker 1: but I mean it was an absolute weapon, especially when
Speaker 1: it's saying dead straight and it's only going twenty feet
Speaker 1: off the ground.
Speaker 2: You hit it tho. Yeah, by the time you get
Speaker 2: up to the ball, it's finally stopped rolling.
Speaker 1: Yeah, at that point you just got to aim the club.
Speaker 2: That's right, Presta.
Speaker 3: What's your typical angle of attack on your driver?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good question. Uh So angle of attack
Speaker 1: I think is usually slightly up, maybe from one to
Speaker 1: two degrees up, and then I try to launch my
Speaker 1: driver anywhere from nine and a half to eleven and
Speaker 1: a half. Ye kind of that's that's my optimal zone.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, Preston, this is coming from someone that just
Speaker 2: made this change. So I'm asking you, this is the
Speaker 2: seven wood at all? At least thought about getting your bag.
Speaker 2: Have you considered the seven wood? Is it in the
Speaker 2: back right now in my bag? Have you have you?
Speaker 2: Are you thinking of seven?
Speaker 1: Okay? So when I was playing, or after I won
Speaker 1: the junior and figured out I was playing uh wing
Speaker 1: foot yep, I came in and we were thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: these par threes, they're they're perfect. Seven weeks since and
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm not gonna hit a three iron because
Speaker 1: you know these screens are firm. It's gonna be coming
Speaker 1: in low. I take the seven wood out there. It's
Speaker 1: been my favorite club ever since.
Speaker 2: So is there one in the back right now? There's
Speaker 2: playing the second one? How long you've been had in
Speaker 2: the back for four? Five, six years?
Speaker 1: Ever since?
Speaker 2: So so three years? So you were like early adopter.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Seven I'm telling you is my favorite club.
Speaker 1: I think everyone should have a seven wood.
Speaker 3: And you do you go driver seven wood or driver three?
Speaker 3: Go driver three with seven driver three?
Speaker 2: The seven would come out of the bag at St.
Speaker 2: Andrews for the driving.
Speaker 1: I three wood. I'm never taking my second wood out.
Speaker 2: This makes me so good about my.
Speaker 1: Seven decisions, my commitment to the seven wood. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm never leaving that thing.
Speaker 3: This is like saw him because he plays two clubs
Speaker 3: that go the same same, one that goes high, one
Speaker 3: that goes low. So you kind of did that right
Speaker 3: at uh it's St. Andrews.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you lay out your goals for this year if
Speaker 2: you don't mind sharing them. You don't have to share them,
Speaker 2: but do you do you have the goals you want
Speaker 2: to check off. You said summer goals as well. What's
Speaker 2: kind of on the Preston Summer Hayes goal list right now?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, uh, you know, I think a big
Speaker 1: thing that I've learned is, uh, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: creating goals is great, but you also want to have
Speaker 1: processed goals, okay, because if you just get fixated on,
Speaker 1: you know, win this event, win this an event, don't
Speaker 1: and if you don't, you just you don't feel good.
Speaker 1: Uh So I think one of the biggest things, uh,
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to work on is making sure
Speaker 1: I take that strength and weakness chart out to every
Speaker 1: time I practice, make sure I have a plan for
Speaker 1: my practice, and just try to make my game a
Speaker 1: little bit better each and every day. And I think
Speaker 1: I'll start to get, you know, reach those goals that
Speaker 1: I want, but then a couple of like placement goals
Speaker 1: I want as I would like to. Uh, I want
Speaker 1: to be first team All American again. I want to
Speaker 1: get a get a good run at the Ben Hogan Award,
Speaker 1: Haskins Award. I think if you're ever in contention for
Speaker 1: for those awards. You're doing something pretty well, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, just try to keep on giving myself opportunities
Speaker 1: to do some special stuff on the big stage.
Speaker 3: Anything else, Marty, that's been This has been awesome.
Speaker 2: Last one I got for you? What's your nickname? In college?
Speaker 2: What do they call you?
Speaker 1: Put In?
Speaker 2: Put In?
Speaker 1: Put In?
Speaker 2: Can we the reason?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean like, Ma's got a photo on his phone
Speaker 1: with me at wing.
Speaker 2: So you're saying to your is this your chubby er?
Speaker 3: Is that? Oh?
Speaker 1: I was? I was chubby. I was chubby.
Speaker 2: But it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is a great name. It's got my freshman
Speaker 1: year and it's stuck ever since.
Speaker 3: It seems like that your body type change.
Speaker 1: Quite it's a lot.
Speaker 2: You're more slender, more athletic, and stronger.
Speaker 1: Right after, right after the Junior Presidence Cup, I think
Speaker 1: it was twenty nineteen, I hit a point where I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I really got to lose some weight.
Speaker 1: I lost like like forty fifty And then.
Speaker 2: What'd you do to lose that weight? I mean, was
Speaker 2: it working out? It was a diet? Was it both?
Speaker 1: It was mainly diet. I just really had to stop
Speaker 1: eating junk food. Yeah, yeah, that that happens. It happens.
Speaker 2: I'll say this in life though, I mean I'm almost forty.
Speaker 2: You go through waves. Yeah, Like we're in the little
Speaker 2: kid phase right now where we have a rough day
Speaker 2: with the kids. It's like we're ordering mcflury's did Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like these kids were complete insane nutballs today. So you'll
Speaker 2: get there eventually, Preston. We appreciate the time, good luck
Speaker 2: this year. Good luck at the PJ Tour event. People
Speaker 2: listening to know how you played. Maybe you'll be an
Speaker 2: amateur winner, like the last winner on the PJA Tour
Speaker 2: was Nameter, also a Sun devil. And we appreciate the time,
Speaker 2: good luck this year. This is the Paying Proving Grounds
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