WEBVTT - Episode 25: Preston Summerhays 0:00:00.400 --> 0:00:02.400 The guys from paying They've kind of showed me how 0:00:02.480 --> 0:00:03.880 much the equipment matters. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.000 I just love that I can hit any shot I 0:00:06.080 --> 0:00:06.600 kind of want. 0:00:06.720 --> 0:00:08.480 We're gonna be able to tell some fun stories about 0:00:08.520 --> 0:00:10.680 what goes on here to help golfers play better golf. 0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:13.040 Welcome back to the Ping proven Grounds Podcast. I'm Shane 0:00:13.080 --> 0:00:15.840 Bak and that is Marty Jertsen Marty in Person podcast. 0:00:16.040 --> 0:00:17.799 Always a little bit different, right, yeah, it is fun 0:00:17.880 --> 0:00:21.360 make you more uncomfortable, to make you just equally normal comfortable, a. 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:23.360 Little bit more, a little bit more uncomfortable. 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:25.880 Press in summer Haze is with us as well. Pressed 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:28.639 in third year at ASU, you're kind of rocket and rolling. 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.600 Now finally, I feel like this is kind of the 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.040 time when you get into this semester, right, you get 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:35.440 through September, you get through kind of mid October, you 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:37.559 kind of know where you're at in terms of grades 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:40.120 and schooling and your classes. Do you like your schedule 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:41.640 looks pretty normal on paper? 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:44.559 Mm hmm, Yeah, definitely, I would say, you know, always 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.040 every single year, the first part is always a little 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.640 bit hard to adjust, just getting used to like the 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.920 school part, and you've got a whole new team new schedule. 0:00:52.920 --> 0:00:55.440 You've got lots of qualifying, So yeah, we're kind of 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.400 towards the end of our fall season and it's nice 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.680 to kind of like know where we're at and be. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.120 Also, what's what's your hardest class this semester? Do you 0:01:03.120 --> 0:01:04.080 have a move stands out? 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:07.160 Yes, definitely my Advanced Research and Methods class. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:08.480 It sounds like, oh yeah. 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.119 Oh jeez, that scares me a little bit, quite frank Marty, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:11.720 what was your. 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:13.360 I mean I can only imagine some of the class 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.800 names you took in college. Does one standouts? Maybe a 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:18.640 class you had to study a little harder in or 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:19.920 pay a little bit more attention. 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.360 To, Man, I was really bad at like computer programming, 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.720 which is ironic because now I'm like, do make software things? 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:31.440 But yeah, differential equations, you know, or linear algebra, those 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:32.320 are some of the tough ones. 0:01:32.360 --> 0:01:35.400 So Preston, I went to you of a our tribal. Obviously, 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.280 I'm married of Sun Devil, so I've kind of gotten 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:39.640 past all this stuff. But I took an elective and 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:43.360 it was like Russian Federation class, and about two weeks 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:45.560 then I went, I think I'm gonna drop. This is 0:01:45.600 --> 0:01:48.000 gonna help me in my broadcasting media career. 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.040 You're actually going through that same problem right now. I 0:01:50.080 --> 0:01:54.080 signed up for a Mediterranean lifestyle class, and like three 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:56.480 weeks in, I've realized that there's like a one hundred 0:01:56.520 --> 0:01:58.920 and fifty pages of reading a week, and I was like, 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:00.800 I just do not have time for that. I gotta 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:01.240 drop that. 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:03.279 So I took to be fair, I took the rushing 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:05.760 class because the girl liked at the time took the class. Okay, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.440 that sense convinced to sign up for it, and then 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:08.639 it didn't work out, and I was like, you know what, 0:02:08.680 --> 0:02:09.760 I don't think I need to know a whole bunch 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.080 abou Russia at this point in my life. You've had 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:13.639 a kind of a wild year in golf. I mean 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:16.240 not just the way you've played, you know, collegiately, but 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:18.920 the Walker Cup at St. Andrew's. I can only imagine 0:02:18.960 --> 0:02:20.960 when you think about playing in a Walker Cup. It's 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.960 a Walker Cup. It didn't play a Walker Cup at St. 0:02:22.960 --> 0:02:25.400 Andrews as a whole different beast. How has the year been? 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:27.040 Can you kind of sum up what twenty twenty three 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:27.680 has been like for you? 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:30.120 Yeah, twenty twenty three has been incredible. I mean it 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:34.080 kind of started the year like last spring season, played 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:36.720 super super well, had a lot of top five finishes, 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:40.639 had to win, played decent nationals. You know, our team 0:02:40.639 --> 0:02:42.600 didn't go all the way, but it was still a 0:02:42.600 --> 0:02:45.560 great year. Ended up being a first team All American, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.120 which was one of my goals starting the year. So 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:50.920 that was awesome. And then you know, summer golf just 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:52.760 kind of takes off and you're going week to week, 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:54.800 two week to week, and you know, especially with the 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.919 Walker Cup coming up, you know how important those tournaments are. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.359 So it was just a super intense summer. But then 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:03.919 to you know, get the get the call from Captain 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:06.280 McCoy to be on the Walker Cup at Saint Andrews 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.840 is h I mean, it's really special because you know 0:03:08.960 --> 0:03:12.480 every amateur wants to play at that level at the 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.280 Walker Cup, but to do it in Scotland at Saint Andrews, 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.040 it just made it one hundred times. 0:03:17.840 --> 0:03:21.120 Better pressing, at least, like for me. The beginning of 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:24.240 the summers, like US Open qualifying, tell I think one 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.200 of the coolest things that you did to kick off 0:03:26.200 --> 0:03:29.799 this summer was I looked at US Open sexuals, saw 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:31.720 your name, saw your score. You look at them in 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.240 the morning, we're not I didn't make it to sectionals. 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:38.080 So then I see the final result, I'm like, holy moly, 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.120 what happened here? Tell us the story your second round there? 0:03:41.280 --> 0:03:45.000 Sixty two, Yeah, sixty to get in the to get 0:03:45.000 --> 0:03:47.240 in lacc tell us about that round? 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:50.000 Okay, yeah, I mean so Sectionals is always, uh, you know, 0:03:50.040 --> 0:03:52.960 it's the longest day in golf, and you know it's 0:03:52.960 --> 0:03:55.120 thirty six sols, and thank goodness it's thirty six soles 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.040 because I got out that first day or that first round, 0:03:58.120 --> 0:03:59.960 and you know, it wasn't too harsh on even part 0:04:00.120 --> 0:04:04.320 that morning round, and you know, kind of I knew 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.040 that I had to have the round that I played 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.960 to make it, but it just kind of frees you 0:04:09.040 --> 0:04:11.240 up in the sense where it's like, you know, what 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.280 if I don't go out and have the best round, 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:15.360 you know, it's fine, I'm gonna play the next tournament. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.320 But you know, I got off to a great start, 0:04:17.400 --> 0:04:19.920 and you know, I can't really remember how the round went, 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:22.200 but I know I was probably four or five under 0:04:22.240 --> 0:04:24.760 through the first nine, and you know, from there I 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.240 was like, oh, I could definitely do the same on 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:28.680 the back, and you know, watching the leader board, kind 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:30.440 of seeing where it's at. I made a couple more 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.240 birdies early on the back nine, and you know, then 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:35.640 you start getting that buzz and you start feeling that 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:38.520 pressure and it's a great feeling. And then I knew 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.520 where I was at going on, going into the last 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.440 till I was seven under part five and a tight 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.559 faaraway hit a great drive, had a five iron into 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:48.760 a back pin, hit that to about fifteen feet and 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:52.719 then made that put to shoot nine under. And I 0:04:52.760 --> 0:04:54.760 mean that's not even all of it, too, because I 0:04:54.800 --> 0:04:58.440 had to get up the next day to to for 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.080 a playoff to get in because it was a. 0:05:00.200 --> 0:05:02.000 You shoot nine and you got to sleep on it. 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:04.640 Yeah, exactly. So I didn't get much sleep that night. 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:07.200 I mean, thank goodness, my adrenaline was going the next morning, 0:05:07.200 --> 0:05:09.800 so I didn't feel that tired. But yeah, I got 0:05:09.839 --> 0:05:11.960 out that next morning part of the first hole and 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:13.279 just like that. 0:05:13.440 --> 0:05:15.680 So in the US that your second US Open, because 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.799 I know you played you won the Junior in nineteen, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:19.839 is that right? The GENI amter in nineteen. So you 0:05:19.880 --> 0:05:22.080 and Marty both played wing foot in twenty, right, Yeah, 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:24.880 can you compare the two US Open golf courses and experiences, 0:05:24.920 --> 0:05:27.159 because I mean, we have a picture of you, and 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:29.400 we'll put this up on the YouTube page or whatever. 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:31.360 It's a great picture considering what you look like now, 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.440 this is three years ago. I mean you were a kid. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.479 Then you'll go a man now. I mean, what the 0:05:35.520 --> 0:05:37.440 experience is like when you played it in twenty twenty 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.479 as a quote unquote kid, and now you're playing in 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:41.320 it with someone I can only imagine. I'm like, I'm 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:42.560 going to go try to make the cut. I can 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:44.800 maybe potentially contend at this US Open. 0:05:44.880 --> 0:05:46.960 Yeah, so I just think that first US Open, I 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.039 mean that was COVID year, so uh, you know, I 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.599 went out there and there were no fans, so the 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.520 atmosphere was a little bit different, but still it's a 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:55.280 US Open. 0:05:55.120 --> 0:05:57.640 Right at wingfoot, Yeah that wingfoot. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.840 Which is pretty special. But the cool thing about it 0:05:59.880 --> 0:06:01.760 was because there was no fans, it kind of felt 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:04.479 like it was a more chill vibe. So I was 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.120 actually able to talk to a lot of players, you know, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.520 get some really cool practice rounds, and you know, the 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:14.360 week was amazing. First major. Like you said, I was 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.800 a kid when I played it, so you know, I 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.920 didn't really go into it with much expectations, just trying 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.920 to do the best I could. And then this last 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:25.640 year at LACC was a little bit different where you know, 0:06:25.680 --> 0:06:28.280 I qualified. I feel like I'm a different player, I'm 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.040 a better player, and now I'm going to go out 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.359 there and try to you know, try to throw up 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:35.920 some scores and yeah, you know, try to do really well. 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:37.880 One of the big things PRESS that we've known from 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.600 your stats is how much distance you've gained. I mean, 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:44.320 you've you've sprouted up, You've been working on your speed 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:49.039 from twenty you in the fortinet earlier this year on 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.200 holes that had measure drives, you led the field in 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:53.960 driving distance. I don't even know if you knew that. 0:06:55.080 --> 0:06:57.560 So what how what's that been like? That transformation like 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:01.040 looking back to twenty which was you know, you didn't 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.480 have that firepower obviously then you need to be briceon 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.159 to win that thing. Yeah, exactly at wing foot to 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.360 now this year where you have a lot more pop. 0:07:08.400 --> 0:07:10.200 What's your ball speed up to? What's your club speed 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:10.960 up to these days? 0:07:11.040 --> 0:07:13.560 Yeah? So's It was actually a pretty long process and 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.200 I started it really young, and it was it started 0:07:16.280 --> 0:07:19.520 at the US Amateur at Pebble Beach when Victor one. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.000 Okay, so I was eighteen, is that right? Yep? 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.440 I was playing there as I think I just turned sixteen. 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.280 I played really good and qualifying to get in, and 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:31.600 I was swinging it around one of three one h 0:07:31.640 --> 0:07:34.240 four miles an hour with the driver, and you know, 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.760 at that age, I was just super confident. I went 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.560 in as a sixteen year old thinking, oh, I'm I 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:40.160 should win this. 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.680 I want to win this in the US amateur yeah, 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:43.680 uh huh. 0:07:43.720 --> 0:07:46.160 And you know, Pebble Beach has super thick rough and 0:07:46.200 --> 0:07:48.760 it's a it's not so much a longer course, but 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:52.640 it definitely it's an advantage to hit it far. Uh. 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:55.600 So I go there, missed the cut, and I'm just 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:58.320 like dad, man, I I just I thought I was 0:07:58.360 --> 0:07:59.880 going to do better, and he's like, Preston, you got 0:07:59.920 --> 0:08:02.160 to get longer, you have to swing it faster in 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.560 order to compete in these events. So from then on, 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.560 me and him did speed training at least four to 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:11.000 five times every single week for the next year. And 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:13.480 speed training for US isn't really like any kind of 0:08:14.360 --> 0:08:17.720 uh it's not really any kind of workout or process. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.360 It's literally getting on the range, getting on the track, man, 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:24.640 and swing it as hard as you can measure yes, okay, Yeah, 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:26.360 So every day I was like, okay, this is my 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:28.400 clubhead speed. I gotta try to swing faster than that, 0:08:28.440 --> 0:08:31.360 faster than that. And you know, in a year I 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.000 went from that one to three to one o four 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.080 to one to eighteen. 0:08:34.360 --> 0:08:36.280 Wow, I mean that's an enormous jump. So you're from 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:40.480 you're seventeen, you can put it these numbers. Yeah, I 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.000 mean it's it's wild what you can do, Marty when 0:08:43.040 --> 0:08:44.600 you put the time in. I know you're obviously very 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.160 very obsessed with this with the taxism and everything like that, 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.600 but just having an opportunity to gain speed, even for 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.520 a young player like that, I mean, it's out there 0:08:51.520 --> 0:08:52.200 and it's available. 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:55.959 Yeah, President, is that when you guys integrated that getting 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:58.040 a little more vertical. See now in you're swinging, you 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:01.840 kind of have that drop head draw up the unwaiting movement. 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:04.199 Was that born from that work or have you always 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:06.440 kind of had that movement in your. 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.680 Yeah, so I've always had that little drop from when 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:12.040 I was young. But like that was the good thing 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:14.640 about the way we did speed training is by me 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:18.360 just trying to generate speed. I learned how to generate 0:09:18.400 --> 0:09:20.880 speed best for me. So instead of thinking, Okay, I 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.000 got to go up and then come back down and 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.120 use the ground to get speed, I'm just going to 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:26.800 try to swing as hard as I can, and naturally, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:27.600 I just learned that. 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:31.280 Exactly as hard as I can. Yeah, you mentioned your dad, 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.880 by the way, your your dad preceded you on the podcast. 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:37.439 So it's another win for Boyd. Right. But is there 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.680 like a rule amongst the family that we're not going 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.880 to talk about golf in certain places or certain instances, 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.240 or golf just always talked about? 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:48.240 No, we talk about golf twenty four Okay, it's actually funny. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.120 Whatever you don't talk about golf, what do you talk about? 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:53.160 It's that's so funny. I'm trying to think of it. 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.520 I mean, we're just our whole family is surrounded around golf, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:00.400 where every conversation is kind of stemming from that. Uh, 0:10:00.920 --> 0:10:02.760 let's see, we don't talk much about golf on like 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:05.600 family vacation. Okay, if we go somewhere and uh, you know, 0:10:05.640 --> 0:10:08.040 we put the clubs away. But I mean, even though 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:10.400 we're not talking about we're all thinking about it. We're 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:11.679 just we're all obsessed. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.400 You're you're like making holes on vacations, like palm trees. 0:10:14.920 --> 0:10:16.120 I could cut one around that, you. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:17.320 Know, we go out to the beach. I was like, 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:19.240 I can definitely hit a bunker shot off this right now. 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.360 How would I do that? But yeah, that's usually the 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.480 only time we're not talking about it, rustllent. 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.400 Let's talk about a little bit. What uh what's in 0:10:25.440 --> 0:10:25.840 your back? 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:26.679 Uh? 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.760 You go driver pretty pretty stock set up, which I 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:32.160 think is really cool for the listeners out there. You 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.720 played pretty stock set up. You've played blueprint irons for 0:10:34.760 --> 0:10:38.800 quite some time. I'd say maybe starting with the irons, 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:43.280 what about your blueprint irons? Like uh uh kind of 0:10:43.440 --> 0:10:46.720 uh led you into those irons and then related to that, 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.400 are you a shot shaper with your irons on the course. 0:10:49.320 --> 0:10:52.920 Yes, I definitely uh like to like to shape the ball. 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:54.480 And I think that's why I like the blueprint so 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:57.000 much is it feels like I can actually try to 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.720 move it a decent amount and it stays it stays 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:03.840 fairly straight, which I really like. I think it's good 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:05.679 for a player to try to do something extra and 0:11:05.720 --> 0:11:09.240 not have it do too much. Okay, uh so yeah, 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.280 those blueprints are great. The I love the size of 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.000 the head. I like looking down at something small. I 0:11:14.000 --> 0:11:16.800 feel like it narrows me in make sure I get 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.320 that good contact and uh yeah, it's just really easy 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:23.079 for me to control my flight, to control the trajectory. 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:25.600 It's just I mean I've been playing them for I 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:26.920 think three or four years. 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:28.439 Now, yes, since they came out. 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:30.600 Yeah, I've never even thought once about changing them. 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:32.480 So when it comes to shots, shape, are you moving 0:11:32.559 --> 0:11:35.160 in vertically? And do you do you draw them into 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.040 left pins, fade them into right pins? 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:37.480 Do you work? 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.760 Do you kind of change? It? Depend on the win conditions? 0:11:39.920 --> 0:11:42.640 Yeah, I mean everything, everything really depends on the shot 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:44.880 that you're hitting. And uh, you know, on golf, I 0:11:44.880 --> 0:11:46.760 think that's one of the best things about the sport 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:50.080 is that there's so much variety, you know, on certain lies, 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.120 PM positions wins uh, and you can just hit lots 0:11:54.160 --> 0:11:55.920 of different shots, so lots of different pins. 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:56.640 Uh. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.959 But for me, I think the biggest thing is being 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.920 able to see from behind the ball exactly what I 0:12:02.960 --> 0:12:05.560 wanted to do. And like you said, with draws and cuts, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:07.080 I used to only be able to cut the ball 0:12:07.600 --> 0:12:10.600 and in the last year or so, I've been you know, 0:12:10.679 --> 0:12:12.320 working a little bit more on the draw and that's 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:16.400 allowed me to stay aggressive well, actually playing more towards 0:12:16.400 --> 0:12:19.439 center than greens, because I mean, if if I can 0:12:19.440 --> 0:12:21.079 only hit a cut to the left pin, I really 0:12:21.120 --> 0:12:25.079 got to start my cut, you know, trouble trouble, and 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:27.400 you know, if it stays straight, I'm gonna be short sighted, 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.360 especially to a left pin. So being able to actually 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.160 work the ball right to left, I'm able to stay aggressive, 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:34.920 but start my ball at the center of the green, 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.679 and if it stays straight, it's it's just gonna be 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:38.600 a twenty footer. 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:42.280 I mean, your relationship with Tony final has been well 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:43.599 to outed. I mean we've talked a lot about it. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.560 I know you've talked about it on podcasts before. I 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:47.920 know when this episode comes out, you'll have played at 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:51.240 another PGA Tour event, the Worldwide Technology Championship in Mexico. 0:12:51.960 --> 0:12:54.000 How much is playing with guys like Tony and John 0:12:54.320 --> 0:12:57.080 and even your college teammates, now, how much does that 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:59.960 help prepare you for these moments when you're on the stage, 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.720 You're playing with PGA Tour players in a PGA Tour event, 0:13:03.040 --> 0:13:05.559 knowing in your brain, I'm playing with two top ten 0:13:05.559 --> 0:13:06.480 players in the world at home. 0:13:06.800 --> 0:13:09.880 Yeah, it's crazy, and I cannot say enough good things 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:14.240 about Tony and John. But it's just I feel extremely 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:17.640 lucky to be able to play with them, to be 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:19.440 able to play with them a lot. And you know, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:22.199 like they said or like you said, they're like extremely 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.640 good players, top in the world. So to be able 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:26.560 to see what they do and kind of compare it 0:13:26.600 --> 0:13:29.120 to my game and see where, you know, I kind 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:31.480 of match with them, where oh, I have these same qualities, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.559 and then also seeing the other side of oh, they 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.400 do this really good and I need to get better 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:36.679 at that. 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.800 What's been like, what was the most shocking thing when 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:41.240 you really I mean, I know you've known Tony for 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:43.199 a long time, but when you started to grow and 0:13:43.240 --> 0:13:44.959 you got bigger and you were getting competitive and you 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:47.360 became one of the best aameters in the world, where 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.880 did you see the gap the most from your game 0:13:50.120 --> 0:13:51.640 to their game and where you wanted to improve. 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:53.360 Yeah. So I think one of the biggest things I 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:55.360 worked on in the last couple of years is definitely 0:13:55.400 --> 0:14:00.319 my ball striking. Okay, and you know, I watched and 0:14:00.360 --> 0:14:02.959 everyone knows him as this power player that has insane speed. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.560 I don't think they realize how straight he hits it. Yeah, 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.000 and how. 0:14:05.920 --> 0:14:08.520 Accurate his iron hits. His iron stats are off the charge. 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:08.800 Yeah. 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.120 He does not get enough credit for how accurate it is. 0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:13.199 And I think that's what makes him a great player, 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.679 is that he is both a power player and an 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:19.440 accuracy player. So, you know, I was talking a minute 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:21.880 ago about you know, I finally got that speed in 0:14:21.920 --> 0:14:24.560 that distance, and now it's just time for me to 0:14:24.680 --> 0:14:26.560 kind of zone it in and try to be as 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:27.520 accurate as I can. 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:32.880 Preston. I've met some parents that have their kids playing 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:36.040 at courses that they feel like we're too easy, and 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:39.600 this was always very interesting to me. They felt like 0:14:39.600 --> 0:14:41.560 they need to get their kids on a course that's 0:14:41.560 --> 0:14:44.280 harder to challenge him more. You guys played Silberle. If 0:14:44.320 --> 0:14:46.680 you guys are shooting, there's that one round you shot 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.160 sixty Did you wait? You've shot sixty out there right? 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.360 I know the round you're talking about is Tony's fifty nine. 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:57.440 Fifty nine. Me and John both shot sixty three. 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:00.520 Yeah, sixty two or sixty three, and the I spent 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.800 sixty six. 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.000 What is the value of playing. It's not like silver 0:15:07.080 --> 0:15:08.960 leaf is a pitching pot, but you got you can't 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:11.480 make some birdies out there. What is the value to 0:15:11.600 --> 0:15:13.600 you of being of playing those rounds where you get 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:15.680 really under part Because it seems like you've been able 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:18.280 to bring that to some big time talked about US 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:22.200 Open qualifying. You've shot low round in the regionals or 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:24.600 sectionals in Vegas last year in a tournament. You've been 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.240 able to bring taking it deep to the course. What 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:27.640 is that? 0:15:27.720 --> 0:15:28.000 What? 0:15:28.000 --> 0:15:29.640 What value does that have to be able to do 0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:32.120 that in some of your in your you know, practice 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:33.160 rounds with the boys. 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.200 Yeah, it's uh, it's extremely valuable. And you know, I 0:15:36.200 --> 0:15:38.240 think to like all the parents out there who think 0:15:38.280 --> 0:15:41.040 that there the course their kids are playing or it 0:15:41.080 --> 0:15:44.040 is too tough. Uh. You know, I grew up on 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.280 some some pretty easy courses, and I think it's really 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.640 important for juniors to learn how to go low and 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:53.560 to also be comfortable going low, because I remember that 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:56.440 as a kid. Uh. You know, obviously, when you don't 0:15:56.480 --> 0:15:57.880 hit it far, you can make a course as tough 0:15:57.880 --> 0:16:00.440 as you want if you play the back teas. But 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:01.720 there are a couple of rounds where I'd just go 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:04.080 up a couple of tea boxes, a te box or two, 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:05.760 and you know, just try to go as low as 0:16:05.800 --> 0:16:07.960 I can. And what I noticed is that usually when 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.160 I started to get around for five under, You're like, oh, 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.720 this is a new feeling for me. I'm about to 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.280 shoot my lowest round. And you know that's where kind 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.840 of the pressure comes in. And you know, being able 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:22.480 to play a lot of rounds where you go that low, 0:16:22.760 --> 0:16:25.280 you just get more comfortable with it, where once you 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.320 get to four or five six under, you're like, oh, 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.440 I've been here before. Yeah, I know what I can 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.560