WEBVTT - Catching Up with Friends: Jacob Pitts 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.680 Warning. This recording contains discussions of eating disorders, body image, 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.039 and potentially triggering topics related to food and mental health. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:10.879 These subjects may be sensitive for some listeners. 0:00:12.600 --> 0:00:15.880 Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know are 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.840 you a Charlotte? 0:00:20.880 --> 0:00:21.079 Hi? 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:25.200 Everyone, welcome to Are You a Charlotte? Today. We have 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:29.240 a very fascinating guest in Catching Up with Friends. His 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.480 name is Jacob Pitts and he plays the other Sam 0:00:32.600 --> 0:00:36.840 Jones in episode seventeen of season three, What Goes Around 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:41.160 Comes Around. He is the young NYU student that Samantha 0:00:41.240 --> 0:00:43.720 Jones ends up having sex with. I'm sure you all 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:46.960 remember him because he was incredible, which is partly why 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:48.960 we wanted to track him down and talk to him. 0:00:49.320 --> 0:00:52.720 And he does not disappoint you, guys. He's super fascinating. 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:55.400 He's gone on to have a really great career. He 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:58.760 was in the Pacific on HBO. He was Unjustified with 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.960 Timothy olliphent While Goggins, which I totally forgot to talk 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:06.000 to him about because he was so incredibly interesting. All right, 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:13.679 please enjoy my conversation with Jacob Pitts. Hello, Hi, thank 0:01:13.680 --> 0:01:17.919 you for joining us. Jacob Pitts very exciting. We really 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:22.920 really wanted you on. You did, yes, yes, because you 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.959 play a very unusual and interesting character, your young self. 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:32.000 So take me back. So, first of all, I'm pretty 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.319 sure this is We just watched this episode, so you 0:01:36.080 --> 0:01:39.720 we were like, who is that kid? He's amazing playing 0:01:39.920 --> 0:01:43.319 the other Sam Jones, And you look like you might 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:47.840 be seventeen or something. You look so young. So tell us, 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:49.280 tell us. 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:53.520 Well, I was interesting, you say, a very unusual character. 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:56.120 I think I was very unusual at that point in 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.240 my life. 0:01:58.400 --> 0:02:04.040 In a good way, not always. Okay, okay, tell us more, 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.240 tell us more, Well, I. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:14.600 Think I was about twenty going on twelve, and yeah, 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:18.040 I think I was not to start out really dark, 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:20.680 but I believe I was in the throes of some 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:21.760 kind of anorexia. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.520 Oh no, yeah, yeah, oh no. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:31.760 I'd done a Broadway play and I saw some photo 0:02:31.800 --> 0:02:35.720 of myself that I saw recently again in the last 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:39.760 couple of years, and I thought I looked chunky I 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:41.919 saw the last couple of years. Of course, I saw 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:44.960 him like, I don't want Chunky at all, And I 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:50.120 got obsessed with doing unendurable things like running seven miles 0:02:50.160 --> 0:02:54.400 a day and only buying products that had zero fat 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.720 in it. Oh yeah, I could go on. There's some 0:02:57.760 --> 0:02:59.680 stuff that I've once described to a friend of mine. 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:03.440 He said that sounds like psychosis. So oh no, it 0:03:03.520 --> 0:03:05.320 was perfect for the part at the time. 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.320 I mean, fully perfect for the part. But separate from that, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.600 I think it's so interesting to hear from an actor 0:03:10.720 --> 0:03:13.640 talking about it because we're all human, right, and we're 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:18.920 in this really weird situation where our visual selves are 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.320 a huge part of what we're doing, like what our 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:24.720 job is, what we love, what we're committed to. I mean, 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:28.040 did you feel like that was part of it? That 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:29.360 you took that picture? 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.959 The odd thing is that's not the sort of thing 0:03:33.040 --> 0:03:36.120 I worried about at all, Like it wasn't like it 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:40.040 was that I can remember, uh huh. It just I 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:42.760 saw that in the picture, and then I became obsessed 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.920 with that. I go from obsession to obsession throughout my life. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:50.360 Fair enough, fair enough, I feel similar to that. Yes, yes, 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:53.800 And it's all about moderating the obsession, right. 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:56.160 We're finding a less terrifying one. 0:03:56.200 --> 0:03:58.960 So absolutely absolutely. I mean I'm sober. I'm a long 0:03:59.000 --> 0:04:02.160 time sober, and I started at eleven. Thank you so much. 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.800 I started drinking out eleven correct, Yes, I know, insane, 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:10.240 right insane. But what it was a screwdriver, you know, 0:04:10.680 --> 0:04:14.480 orange juice and vodka. And I was in some ways 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:16.839 able to do that because I was in the theater 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.919 and in a very not professional way in South Carolina, 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:22.680 and so I was always around adults. You know, I'm 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:24.640 very old. So it was the seventies and there was 0:04:24.680 --> 0:04:27.560 not a lot of like supervision in a weird way, 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.040 you know what I mean. So if you had that 0:04:31.279 --> 0:04:36.920 like you know, genetic leaning or whatever it might be. Yeah, 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.200 then and I had read recently with anorexia that they're 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.400 looking at there's a set of genes that they're looking 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:46.640 at as being part of what might make you prone 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.720 to that, which I think is super interesting. 0:04:49.960 --> 0:04:52.520 Well, I've never had ever since I forget what it 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.840 was that. I think it was the run, the long 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.680 distance running, and I justified to myself I could eat 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:01.560 anything I wanted at that point. But I I've never 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.320 had about or worry about other than being just a 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:06.760 vain actor type. But I've never had a you know, 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.760 worry about that otherwise. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.320 Interesting. So it just you saw this picture and then 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:12.440 you became obsessed. 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:15.280 I was obsessed for a better part of a year. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:18.080 I would say, wow, and our show came in the 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:18.599 middle of that. 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.240 Yeah, and yeah, I was I was only allowing myself 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:26.320 to eat once my stomach was ravenous. Just some terrible 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:29.720 yo play and peaches or something like that. Wow. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.120 So that manic energy that you have and the part 0:05:33.200 --> 0:05:37.159 that was that was real wow. So okay, before we 0:05:37.240 --> 0:05:39.200 discussed the part so more, how did you get out 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.400 of this phase? Like what happened to get you out 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:41.520 of there? 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.159 I think it was that I think, well it was 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.240 the wrong long distance running right then decided I could 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:49.000 eat anything I want, And then I think I just 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:52.400 found my way to marijuana. 0:05:53.040 --> 0:05:56.320 Okay, that's less, that's probably less dangerous, right. 0:05:56.640 --> 0:05:59.880 Well no, because then delusions of its own. 0:06:00.200 --> 0:06:03.960 Oh oh my god. Well, can I say, first of all, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.479 you seem super young, like like even I mean, your 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:11.480 your energetics are so perfect for the part, because you 0:06:11.520 --> 0:06:14.240 look really young and you're thin, which I think kind 0:06:14.240 --> 0:06:15.960 of makes you look younger in a way, you know 0:06:16.000 --> 0:06:19.320 what I'm saying, Like like boyish, very very yish. 0:06:19.560 --> 0:06:21.599 The boy undeveloped body kind. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.440 Of thing, definitely, definitely. And then where like. 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:25.560 A regular old twin. 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:31.240 Why how did you come to audition for our part 0:06:31.320 --> 0:06:32.279 for our show? 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.240 I don't know. They just sent me there. 0:06:34.360 --> 0:06:36.599 So you're acting at this point like full aid this 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:37.680 you're living in New York. 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.520 Yeah, I was living in New York. Oh man, I 0:06:41.560 --> 0:06:43.400 don't know how much of this I want to reveal. 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:45.320 You don't have to reveal anything you don't want to. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:46.720 You're already fascinating. 0:06:46.800 --> 0:06:50.400 Okay, Well, you know it was interesting watching the episode 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.440 was that I've seen it three times now, okay, And 0:06:54.800 --> 0:07:00.680 the second time I watched it, I was too connected 0:07:00.839 --> 0:07:06.240 to that that kid, so I kind of watched it, sure, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.600 And the third this time, though, it was just it 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:13.320 was that first feeling I've ever had of that's that's 0:07:13.400 --> 0:07:16.920 just a totally different person. It's not even wow, you 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:22.000 know you've had that feeling, sure, yes, and so it 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:24.320 was kind of a relief in that sense. But I thought, oh, 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:27.320 this poor kid, because I remember all the dellusions he 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:33.720 had and the crazy you know, uh yeah, friendless. 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:39.200 Oh no, oh yeah, oh no, that's so sad. 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.640 Few years before I got a real friends really good 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.640 for that part, I was a real weirdo. 0:07:44.960 --> 0:07:48.400 I mean, you were perfect, perfect casting I'm sorry that 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:51.280 I didn't see you, and I hope that somebody in 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.640 our world was kind to you. 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:58.119 You're not sorry you didn't see I know they were great. 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:01.240 I was actually thinking about everyone was fine. Who I met? 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:08.880 I God, I watched that and I thought that is 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.000 I was running on pure instinct at that point. I 0:08:12.000 --> 0:08:14.440 had moved to New York about a year and a 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:20.240 half earlier, and I started with just the most terrible 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.880 acting school you could possibly, like, the most discouraging. I 0:08:23.920 --> 0:08:28.040 don't want to do any more acting classes after this school. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.080 It was just, you know, they broke it up into 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.480 things like we actually had a course called the history 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.240 of sitcoms. Oh yeah, really kind of sketchy stuff that 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:40.680 I'm like, do we need to be studying this? 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:41.839 Odd? 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:46.400 I remember we had a scene study class with there 0:08:46.400 --> 0:08:50.000 were a sister and brother in the class. Okay, it 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:53.600 pretty much cycled through all the partner ups you could, 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.960 and at the end this sister and brother were partnered 0:08:56.960 --> 0:09:01.280 in a scene as lovers. No, yeah, that's how bad 0:09:01.320 --> 0:09:01.679 it was. 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:03.319 That's not good. 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.240 And so I didn't have and I don't know what 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:08.320 it was. I couldn't No one could talk to me. 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:11.800 I don't think I had that. I've since found out 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:14.400 a bunch of my friends of the same age and 0:09:15.400 --> 0:09:20.679 kind of experience had the same experience where we would somehow. 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.120 I think it was that I was looking to get 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:28.240 into the business post Titanic, and they saw me as 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:33.360 any kind of DiCaprio esque wow kid who could yell 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.560 a sentence or two with eviction. It just picked him 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:38.960 up and said, let's see which was. 0:09:39.960 --> 0:09:43.280 You know, that's amazing. I love that because I also 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.240 I do feel like that's a big thing, right, Like 0:09:45.320 --> 0:09:48.520 someone hits so big like Leo did when he was 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:52.400 really like his breakout whatever, and everyone's like, where's someone 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.960 like him? But you know, good for you that you 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:56.880 were in there, and I mean sad that you were 0:09:56.880 --> 0:09:59.760 in a scary acting class, but obviously you persevered. You've 0:09:59.760 --> 0:10:03.000 worked tons since then, and we got you like, like, 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:08.720 what first acting job, second acting job, third, Okay, yeah, 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.920 so you were really doing pretty well. I mean that's 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.760 pretty good for that age, don't you think, Oh yeah, 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:14.959 I was fantastic. 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:17.720 I have no I had no appreciation of work. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.800 I mean, I don't think you do when you're young. 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:24.040 But also you had a lot going on, so maybe 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:29.360 you weren't really like, you know, grounded thinking about it right, Definitely. 0:10:28.840 --> 0:10:32.320 Not interesting thing about it is I, you know, James 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:37.640 Dean was an idol of mine, and I only knew 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:41.960 what I'd retained from some weird biographies. There was actually 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:45.400 a Robert Altman documentary about him and Black and was 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.560 one of the earliest things Robert Altman ever did. 0:10:47.679 --> 0:10:48.000 Wow. 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:51.280 But I just remembered stories about him pulling a switchblade 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:56.920 on directors and being unpredictable and real. Oh no, cass 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:59.920 And I didn't. This acting class didn't give me any 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:03.480 thing I didn't have. I didn't. I didn't grasp a 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.960 single thing. Wow. If they had anything to teach me, 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.480 and maybe if you could teach me anything, I couldn't 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:14.720 hear it because I was such a sheltered, delusional kid. 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:20.760 I needed to be this great James Dean genius. Wow. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.120 No one could hand, no one could direct, no one 0:11:23.120 --> 0:11:26.920 could handle. Wow. Yeah, it's crazy delusion. 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:28.880 I mean it's fascinating. 0:11:29.200 --> 0:11:32.000 And there was a scene in the in the the 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:37.839 party scene in this episode when uh, Samantha and Carrey 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:40.400 first come up to me and I put a solo 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:47.319 cup almost on a plastic inflatable cactus. Yeah, And at 0:11:47.320 --> 0:11:49.640 the time, I wanted to do the idea of just 0:11:49.720 --> 0:11:52.240 letting it go onto the cactus and spill out everywhere 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:55.600 and do everything. And but I didn't know. I didn't 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:58.440 have the experience where I could go go to the director, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.920 go to the cast, see if they want to do that, right, 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:02.880 it's just in my head be like, no, it's got 0:12:02.920 --> 0:12:05.000 to be surprised. They can't know. Wow. 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:05.640 Wow. 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.240 And I didn't have the balls to go through with 0:12:08.280 --> 0:12:09.480 it because I didn't want to ruin this. 0:12:09.600 --> 0:12:12.000 That's probably good, that's probably good. 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.160 Yeah, But it was that kind of mentality interesting. 0:12:15.520 --> 0:12:18.200 So but I love the I love the kind of 0:12:18.320 --> 0:12:21.640 naive ambition of it all, you know, because sometimes I 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.680 feel like young actors are just trying to play it safe, 0:12:25.520 --> 0:12:29.640 you know what I'm saying, Like, especially maybe nowadays, where 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:33.680 like I'm always pushing people who are younger to try 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:36.760 to like step out, like try something, you know. 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.800 I really think they're playing it safe these days. 0:12:38.920 --> 0:12:40.679 Are some that I know, some that I know I 0:12:40.720 --> 0:12:42.480 don't want to I don't want to call anyone out 0:12:42.520 --> 0:12:45.439 here on the podcast, but I feel like it might 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.880 be somehow related to social media. I don't know if 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:48.800 that's true or not, but. 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:50.600 Like I'm sure it's true. 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:54.559 Right, like some kind of perception that they have about 0:12:54.640 --> 0:12:56.720 how they should just be like kind of flat and 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:57.840 natural all the time. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.199 No, I don't know, you're you're you're jet No, yeah. 0:13:02.040 --> 0:13:04.480 I mean I'm ancient. Is really so you have? 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.520 But you had the thing where I don't know, I 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.200 grew up. This is the thing I've observed that I 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.040 grew up on various cartoons and sitcoms where they always 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.560 had a moral or a lesson at the end of 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.199 the episode. Yeah, and they all had the one where 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:23.320 you know what was the one Carlton got in trouble 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:25.679 this week because he wanted to be cool for Will's 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.760 friends from Philadelphia. Yes, yes, what he learned was that 0:13:29.800 --> 0:13:32.000 you shouldn't care what other people think and that you 0:13:32.040 --> 0:13:33.199 should just be yourself. 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:35.200 But that's great. I think that's great. 0:13:35.280 --> 0:13:38.280 But did these kids grow up with any of that. 0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:39.560 I don't think they did. 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.160 You ever got that special episode? 0:13:41.320 --> 0:13:44.040 It doesn't seem like it. It doesn't seem like it. 0:13:44.120 --> 0:13:47.040 I mean. The interesting thing is I think also it's 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.560 weird to be a young person acting right, so like 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:55.720 you might have maybe a lot of supervision because people 0:13:55.720 --> 0:13:58.120 don't want to, you know, the safety. People are worried 0:13:58.120 --> 0:13:59.760 about safety. I don't know. I don't know what it is, 0:13:59.800 --> 0:14:01.520 but I do know that that there's a bunch of 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:05.440 young people that I was like, you know, act you 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:08.160 know what I'm saying, like go, whereas like for us, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.680 we were all looking at the Nero and Meryl Streep 0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:14.120 and you know, like actors, like real actors, where we 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:18.240 wanted to be super like serious and risky and you know, 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:21.120 emotional and all of those things. And I don't know 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.600 if that's what they are looking at now as being 0:14:24.640 --> 0:14:27.000 there kind of their idols, you know what I'm saying. 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:30.640 And like for me, everything that you're saying separate from 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:32.480 the fact that you were in a very dark place, 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.120 which I feel really bad. 0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:34.680 I know it. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.920 I didn't know, like god, like I got it. 0:14:36.960 --> 0:14:38.440 I wouldn't have known it if you told. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.760 Me, wow, wow, amazing. But like for me, I think 0:14:41.760 --> 0:14:43.520 that's partly why I really wanted to talk to you, 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.680 is that here you are so young and our show, 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.840 and our show at this point third season is pretty big, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:51.960 like it's pretty successful. I don't know if you were 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:57.880 aware of that. No, amazing because you're just so bold 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.560 in the part. I mean it's written as bold obviously, 0:15:00.640 --> 0:15:03.920 like you play Sam Jones. You know, Samantha Jones gets 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.400 these phone calls just in case anyone has it watched 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.920 it this week or whatever. And your friends start calling 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.320 our Samantha saying, you know, we're coming to your party, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:14.760 and she's like, what party is this? And who's this 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.840 other Sam Jones? And how come I haven't met him? 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:20.520 And oh, he has an address that's near Washington Square Park. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.360 He must be rich. But of course you're in a 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.560 dorm at NYU. It's also hysterical. So she and Carrie 0:15:27.680 --> 0:15:30.600 end up at your party with a bunch of young people, 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:35.600 college age kids, and then she eventually you basically say 0:15:35.880 --> 0:15:38.720 something to the effect of you know, I must be 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.040 the wrong Sam Jones because I'm still a virgin, like 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:43.320 you just blurred out to her at the party, which 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.400 is adorable, and she's like, oh, and then she did 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.400 she leaves, thank god, because I was nervous. I was like, no, Sam, 0:15:49.440 --> 0:15:51.360 don't do it, because I don't remember a lot of 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.040 things when I look back, right like certainly other people's storylines, 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.680 I don't remember what's going to happen. But then she 0:15:57.280 --> 0:15:59.800 does relent and I can't remember right now why she 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:02.480 lens even though I just watched it, but she goes. 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:06.000 I'm pretty forcable. I kind of forced myself. 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:10.960 You do. You're like you have a lot, You're very persuasive, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:15.080 definitely a lot of energy, and also like you seem 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:19.160 just very sure of yourself. You know, like, even just 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:21.560 watching you as an actor, I thought that young actor 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:25.400 is very sure of himself. Like, wow, I'm so impressed. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:27.680 And then you guys have very athletic sex, and you're 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:30.600 very very funny, and the sex very very funny. Your 0:16:30.600 --> 0:16:35.240 faces and everything is very entertaining. And then you tell. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:37.840 Her you love her like a little puppy dog like 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.240 it's so sweet at the end, and then she's like 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:44.160 bye bye, and then you go like down in a dark, 0:16:44.320 --> 0:16:48.040 dark freak out, which is also so adorable because normally 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:51.000 that's what you see women doing, right, and. 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:55.280 You're like Samantha at the door of Sam Jones. Sam Jones, So, 0:16:55.520 --> 0:16:57.960 I have so many questions. Number one, do you remember 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:01.280 anything filming it in particular, other than that you had 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:03.400 a theory that you were going to put the drink 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:04.960 all over everyone. 0:17:05.280 --> 0:17:09.000 I remember very little. What I do remember is well, 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:10.119 there were only two days. 0:17:10.359 --> 0:17:12.480 I think, yeah, but you packed a lot in. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.840 I remember Alan Colter giving direction. 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:16.560 Yeah. 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.080 I don't know if this is your experience, but anytime 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:20.280 he had something for. 0:17:20.280 --> 0:17:27.840 Me, he was like, definitely, definitely that thing. 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.679 And then I remember it was my first experience with 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:38.520 the modesty pouch. Yes, And they gave me two options, 0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:45.520 the skin colored thong and the tarzan g string. Yes, 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.639 and they say which do you want. I remember going, 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:54.920 whoaoa whoa. I thought this was HBO, want to see 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:55.560 what happens? 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.880 Oh Jesus, yeah. 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:02.720 Exact delusional and I thought I was and Kim and 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:05.360 Kim Cattrall is like, no, but this is Kim Cotrell 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:12.399 and I was like, okay, So I took the Tarzan. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:23.800 Thing, Okay, okay. 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:27.840 Do you remember why you have the accent that you 0:18:27.920 --> 0:18:29.840 have because you're from Connecticut? Correct? 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:31.680 Correct? Yes? 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:32.000 Oh? 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.000 So what happened? 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.960 Well, I think I could be wrong. I think there 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:39.320 was something, and I think it was in the audition 0:18:40.400 --> 0:18:43.359 scene as well. I thought there was some reference in 0:18:43.400 --> 0:18:44.600 the script to Texan. 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.480 Oh, if there was, I missed it, but. 0:18:48.600 --> 0:18:51.199 Cool, I don't know. I didn't think they. I think 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:56.439 I didn't because when we start, okay, they played like 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:58.879 a jingly, jangly banjo kind. 0:18:58.760 --> 0:19:01.320 Of they did. That's true. 0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.120 I feel like that was always baked in. 0:19:04.119 --> 0:19:07.680 Somehow got it. I thought maybe it was Culter, who 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:12.080 has an accent kind of like not exactly the same, 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:15.720 but like a little Southern isms kind of to him. 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:17.840 I didn't know where that came from, but I love 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:18.840 it as a choice. 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.080 I don't think it came from me. I don't think I. 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:24.040 Well, you committed to it. You committed to it in 0:19:24.080 --> 0:19:26.560 a very adorable way, very adorable. 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:27.880 Joe buck there. 0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:29.959 Yeah, it was good. It was really good. It was 0:19:30.000 --> 0:19:32.600 just as I said, it was so different from the 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:37.440 normal guy parts on our show, which are like often 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.080 a little bland ish. I don't want to criticize them all, 0:19:41.080 --> 0:19:43.880 but and then until we find out whatever makes the 0:19:44.080 --> 0:19:46.880 relationship go wrong, right, But like, you were just full 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:49.199 on out there the whole time, Like I thought it 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.280 was so so, so fantastic and perfect, and that you 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.040 were so young doing that I thought was just super interesting. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.760 And I'm curious what your experience was like if you 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.119 can remember when that aired, well. 0:20:00.960 --> 0:20:03.040 I went to a couple of my friends from that 0:20:03.200 --> 0:20:07.480 terrible acting school had HBO and they were in Union, 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:11.240 New Jersey. So I went over to Union to watch it, okay, 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:13.520 and so that was that was that. 0:20:13.640 --> 0:20:14.520 Did they like it? 0:20:14.600 --> 0:20:14.719 Like? 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:16.360 Were you were they impressed? 0:20:16.640 --> 0:20:16.760 Like? 0:20:17.160 --> 0:20:19.919 Okay, okay? Did people shout at you on the street 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.840 and say, like Sam Jones, No, actually have not. 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.080 I it's It's the funny funny thing is like I 0:20:28.119 --> 0:20:30.840 feel like I'm seldom recognized. 0:20:30.160 --> 0:20:34.160 For that, understandably because you're like a grown up now, 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:36.320 but I mean it's. 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:40.399 Like every seven years somebody recognizes me from editors. I 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:43.280 find myself in a conversation where they're like, but you're 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:47.000 Sam Jones. You know. You're like, it's a really famous thing, right, 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.639 Well yeah, I'm like, okay, well it is. 0:20:50.760 --> 0:20:52.760 It stands out, it really does. 0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.800 But then six years of silence from the world passes, 0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:00.640 and then another somebody comes up and it's like you're right, 0:21:00.680 --> 0:21:01.800 and I'm like, is it. 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:06.360 I think it's because you don't seem like you're insane. 0:21:08.720 --> 0:21:12.640 You know, like that's probably a good thing that you're 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:16.760