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Speaker 4: the porn game that you guys may or may not

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Speaker 4: Porn actors and producers are making a last ditch attempt

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Speaker 6: Because if it's done correctly. But if it's done correctly

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Speaker 3: The point is people don't want to believe that, but.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just yeah, there there's there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: And I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think this

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Speaker 5: Have no jobs at all.

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Speaker 4: At some point people just I mean, it's like if

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Speaker 4: if that's like if the black section the Ebony section, right,

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Speaker 5: But isn't it funny?

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Speaker 3: This for reality, right.

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Speaker 5: Well, they needed four votes. It was a seven panel vote.

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Speaker 4: Right, exactly what you said earlier, right, because it's like

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Speaker 6: One of the things will let the people be out

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Speaker 3: No room for.

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Speaker 6: Getting money or anything like that because it was all

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the chat room is breaking up A good point.

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Speaker 5: Maybe some of us are into that. Okay, you don't know.

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's what it is. Real the silk pillow cases subcategory.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, that's.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks like they won, but they'll be looking

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Speaker 4: And in that case, the test came back negative at first,

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Speaker 4: not there's never one hundred percent way to go about it.

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Speaker 3: Ever, All right, let's.

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Speaker 4: See what else we got here to discuss. A judge

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Speaker 4: in bankruptcy court. That's right, fifty went on Instagram to

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Speaker 5: Now that may be.

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Speaker 4: Significant to some of you guys, because you're going, wait,

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Speaker 4: is a fifty supposed to be broken? That's why he

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Speaker 3: No, he he ain't pull people broke. He broke completely different.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: At one point he took home, he took a picture

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Speaker 6: Yeah, wait a minute, did you get it to pop up?

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Speaker 5: I'm looking for give me a second, care, I got it.

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Speaker 5: I'll figure it out.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, at one point he took an actual picture

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Speaker 5: On the bed with him.

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Speaker 4: He put at his Instagram caption, Man, this is lunch money.

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Speaker 5: I gotta go to work. I'm still up, no sleep

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Speaker 4: New music this week off the Canaan mixtape f and

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Speaker 5: Here's the picture.

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Speaker 4: It should a load this time if you guys want

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Speaker 4: I know, this woman that wants her money gotta be

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Speaker 6: Yeah he's yeah, he's he's he's like the ultimate trol.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, they actually.

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Speaker 6: Had.

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Speaker 4: The judge ordered him back to court said I'm right,

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Speaker 4: I'm judge and never said I'm concerned about allegations of

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Speaker 5: Uh, there's a.

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Speaker 4: Purpose of having a bankruptcy process be transparent, and part

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Speaker 4: she continued. When that process becomes very public, the need

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: And my thing is, like if I was a lawyer

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Speaker 4: Yeah, his people gotta be like the dude, like you know,

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Speaker 3: It's like you being fucking counterproductive to everything your pangles

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Speaker 5: Right, so uh yeah uh.

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Speaker 4: The bankruptcy status allows an honest but unfortunate depth debtor

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Speaker 4: came back to bite Fitty atter his ex girlfriend Lestonia Elevenson,

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Speaker 4: hedgephone company, Sleek Audio, and sun Trust Bank, who claimed

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Speaker 4: the rapper collectively owes him twenty nine million dollars, pointing

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Speaker 5: In January, court papers.

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Speaker 4: Phiddy's lawyers insisted in a statement Friday that he's been

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Speaker 3: Questions, do you sure have not with?

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Speaker 6: Then where's this money unaccounted foe that you could spell

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Speaker 5: Yeah? That's is that off.

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Speaker 3: The books that underneath your mattress.

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Speaker 4: I won't that shit too, because you know, van being

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Speaker 3: You broke, you need to be broke. Even if it's

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Speaker 6: And that's the problem is like you out here flowing

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Speaker 4: So apparently Amburrows went on a talk show with Reverend

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Speaker 4: run and Tyrese Well, why let's see it's called It's

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Speaker 5: It's men. It is the name of the show. I've

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Speaker 4: Amber from Black Chick Watching. She reviewed it on her

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Speaker 4: Tyrese you know those guys, about her social media image

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Speaker 4: When I walk down the street, people think because I'm

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Speaker 5: I think they got clips on YouTube.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying the comfortability that some people find and

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Speaker 3: Let me just let me.

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Speaker 5: It's just like it's an.

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Speaker 7: No, it doesn't because I'm gonna tell you why if

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Speaker 7: That means no, that means oh that's it. It doesn't

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say.

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Speaker 6: I've heard a quote like you know, dress how you

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Speaker 3: Boo, no, that's not realistic.

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Speaker 6: Stop it right right right, niggas get on my goddamn

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Speaker 3: You do not own her, and that's all it is,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what's wild to me is that they don't.

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Speaker 3: Because you know it's you know it's inappropriate, right?

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Speaker 5: Why like?

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Speaker 6: And and how come it's never and it's always on

444
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 6: I think the thing that frustrates me about this is

445
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:33,879
Speaker 6: that it's always on women.

446
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 3: Women.

447
00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 6: It's and and and bigger than amber. Like I said,

448
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 6: I've never been pregnant, but I know a lot of

449
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 6: pregnant women have to deal with this. When women become pregnant,

450
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,520
Speaker 6: you know, your body gets bigger and you expanding. A

451
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 6: lot of people do that where they just feel like

452
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 6: they have the right to just come and touch your belly.

453
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: My belly is not for public consumption just because I'm pregnant.

454
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 3: And that's the thing.

455
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 6: Her body is not for public consumptions just because she's

456
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 6: out walking around. And you know, if I just start

457
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,960
Speaker 6: rubbing on you, you have a fucking fit.

458
00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 3: So be considerate when you do this to other people.

459
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and they got another clip. Let's see that. What

460
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 5: this one is?

461
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 4: How do you define the modern woman?

462
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 3: I need to know.

463
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 7: I would say that she's independent. She uh does not

464
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,760
Speaker 7: feel the need to be completely submissive to a man.

465
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 7: She does what she wants, and she just is a

466
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 7: certified badish.

467
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 5: Yeah.

468
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:40,640
Speaker 4: So it's kind of It's kind of interesting because Reveren

469
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 4: is saying all this shit, but like his daughters and stuff,

470
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: like they you know, they like they believe are models

471
00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:55,120
Speaker 4: or something like that, like Angela Simmons, like it's it's

472
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,760
Speaker 4: weird because because and a lot of people bringing this

473
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 4: up like it was against his point, right, like, oh,

474
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 4: your daughter out here with no clothes on, so what

475
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 4: the fuck do you know? But I'm my my bet

476
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 4: is that he doesn't approve of that and thanks lesson

477
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: her for that and thinks if something did happen to her,

478
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 4: he would be the first to be like, yeah, this

479
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 4: is why this Joe Fault going around here without enough

480
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 4: clothes on and shit like that. So I you know,

481
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: people that brought that up, I was like, I really

482
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 4: don't know if that even is a point to him

483
00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 4: for more or Lee Simmons, you know, I doubted that's

484
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 4: a point to him to be like, well, she's a

485
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:33,719
Speaker 4: model and all that.

486
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 5: He would just be like, so, well.

487
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 6: Mine, I'm about to say it is almost that double standard,

488
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 6: because you know, if men were walking around and women

489
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 6: were constantly grabbing for their dick and their balls and

490
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 6: squeezing their asses and touching on them inappropriately unwarted, they

491
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 6: would have a fucking fit.

492
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't It isn't that doesn't jobs because

493
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 4: patriarchy is so huge in our society, and then our

494
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:02,560
Speaker 4: society being framed by men and their wants and desires

495
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 4: is so different that it so much would have to

496
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 4: change for men to feel like like even if a

497
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 4: perfect example the man who was in the gas station

498
00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 4: and the two women started working.

499
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 5: On him and he called.

500
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: The police, you saw the response from men, right all

501
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,240
Speaker 4: this pussy ass nigga I would But still that was

502
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,159
Speaker 4: just you know, so that that example won't pass the

503
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 4: mustard with a lot of people because in their eyes,

504
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 4: the idealized man is the guy who goes, you know,

505
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 4: I'm out here trying to fuck every bitch I see,

506
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,719
Speaker 4: and you know if you're not, then you what you

507
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 4: gave niggas something wrong with you, you know, Like so I

508
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 4: don't even know that that that that example was gonna

509
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 4: hold weight with a lot of this tyrese crowd type.

510
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 5: If women were doing it to you.

511
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 4: You know, also they're gonna make this idea of like, well,

512
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 4: I don't put out that vibe I put I have

513
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 4: on a lot of clothes and ship but just once

514
00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 4: again missing the point that men in our fashion is

515
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: just completely different. And also if you weren't wearing a

516
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 4: lot of clothes. People still wouldn't just come up and

517
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 4: grab you, and shit, right if it was. But to

518
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 4: further your example, I would say not if a bunch

519
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: of women were grabbing.

520
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 5: Them, if a bunch of men did.

521
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 4: If you were shorts and a bunch of men came

522
00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 4: up and started grabbing you, Because now we're in an

523
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 4: unwanted attention category for most straight headed on over the

524
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 4: men that are looking down on women for dressing like this,

525
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 4: those guys would totally be like, no, that's not okay.

526
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: I didn't say they could touch me, and I would

527
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,400
Speaker 4: punch them in the face and I would do all

528
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 4: these violent things. But they don't want to just come

529
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 4: out and say, well, because it's not okay. And that

530
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 4: is got to be how a lot of women feel,

531
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,280
Speaker 4: you know, whether it's a woman or man coming up

532
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: and just grabbing you because you got a short dress,

533
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. It's not like you didn't

534
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 4: say that was okay, and you're dressing of that doesn't

535
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: say it's okay. And it's amazing that as much information

536
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,400
Speaker 4: as there is, as many women that are outspoken about

537
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 4: it in twenty sixteen, you still got dudes thinking like

538
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 4: this that are allowed to have like this national platform

539
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,360
Speaker 4: to give their advice and all this type of shit.

540
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,359
Speaker 5: It's kind of sad, you know, it's sad.

541
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 3: And to me, I don't know.

542
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 6: To me, it's just it's just irritating because it's just

543
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 6: one of those.

544
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: Things where, like you said, if.

545
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 6: You know, all of a sudden, straight dudes out walking,

546
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,760
Speaker 6: all of a sudden they get grabbed by men, regardless

547
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 6: of what the men's sexuality is, they just grabbed by men.

548
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 3: They would have a fit. But the thing is you feel.

549
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 6: Threatened and odds are you're strong. What happens to somebody

550
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 6: that is groped and they aren't strong? Like you know,

551
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,840
Speaker 6: cause most women aren't stronger than the man that's fucking

552
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 6: touching her, right, So it's not the same you can

553
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,119
Speaker 6: quote unquote defend yourself or if you feel like you

554
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 6: can defend yourself, what are you doing if you're in

555
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 6: a situation where you can't defend yourself and there's nothing

556
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 6: you can do from this person that just feels like

557
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 6: touching you?

558
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 5: Right?

559
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know, but I don't know every it's

560
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 4: funny because I just feel like.

561
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 5: It's so difficult to.

562
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 4: Really hate on Ambarros, although a lot of people do

563
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 4: find ways. I feel like it's kind of difficult because

564
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 4: a lot of the shit that she's facing, a lot

565
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 4: of people that don't like her, seem to be wrong,

566
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I'm not like, I

567
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 4: don't know enough about her really to harbor like a

568
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: lot of resentment or anything. But when I find people

569
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 4: making arguments about why they don't fuck with her, it's

570
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 4: always some shit where I'm like, but you sound like

571
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 4: the asshole, not her, you know what I mean, Well,

572
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 4: look what she got on and yeah.

573
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 6: You know what about her relationship with Kanye, and that

574
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,400
Speaker 6: don't got shit to do with what she's saying right now.

575
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's not smart, well neither all the people talking

576
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 4: shit to her, Like I don't understand, Like the things

577
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 4: that are being said to her are dumber than than

578
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: the things she's saying. And then you know, the shade

579
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: between the Kardashians and Kanye and all that shit, like

580
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 4: they seem to have worked that out. But even when

581
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 4: that was going on, I just remember being like, but

582
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 4: she she had a point, you know, like I don't

583
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:12,399
Speaker 4: understand why, you know, it's okay for these women of

584
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 4: class quote unquote and having all this money to shit

585
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 4: on her as a sex worker when her sister essentially

586
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: made a bunch of money that way. Like, I don't know,

587
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 4: it's just people make it difficult to not like her

588
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 4: in my opinion, And you know, and it's funny because

589
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: she doesn't really put anything out right, like she had

590
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 4: this book. She had a book, but I haven't met

591
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 4: anybody that's read this book or quotes this book or

592
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 4: talks about this book. She you know, she'll be on

593
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 4: like a TV show or get interviewed or radio show,

594
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: but she doesn't like make a radio show.

595
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 5: She doesn't have make music. She you know, like pretty much.

596
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,080
Speaker 4: The appeal is she's a very attractive woman and she's

597
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 4: again slupt shaming, and people's response is slept shaming her,

598
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: which makes her relevant. So right, it's also weird to me,

599
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: like her status in America is just mostly one where

600
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 4: if people weren't acting like a fucking idiot, she wouldn't

601
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 4: even be famous.

602
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 5: But people act horrible towards her, you know, and.

603
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 4: She's willing to go places and discuss these things that

604
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 4: you know, but those people make her relevant. I wouldn't

605
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 4: go discuss those things on those people platform, but she does,

606
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 4: and it helps her be relevant because they're doing it,

607
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 4: you know.

608
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 5: So this is interesting man.

609
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: It's also weird that you would book her as a

610
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 4: guest and then immediately try to select shame her with that.

611
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: Well look what you got ONWN shit like that's celebrities

612
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 4: dumb a well, you know what, I take that back.

613
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 4: People are dumb because they just celebrities, just famous people,

614
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. But Tyree's is stupid. Rever's stupid,

615
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: you know. Anyway, let's see what else I want to

616
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: talk about.

617
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 6: Uh?

618
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 5: Oh, Rachel dolars Out had her son. She had a baby.

619
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 4: A lot of people forgot she was pregnant.

620
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 5: That's right.

621
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 4: Her new baby boy, Langston Atticus those those al was born.

622
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: Mhm mm hmm.

623
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 5: Links and Atticus dos album so good.

624
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 3: Well where's she get the name from? Mm hmm.

625
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 5: I'm assuming Langston Langston Hughes.

626
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 3: Oh word, mm hmm. Yeah, I heard Atticus before. Then

627
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: we cover here one time.

628
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 5: We sure did.

629
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: Uh, but uh, she spelled that different because I don't

630
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: think that's how it spelled. But she spelled the A

631
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: T T I C k U s. But maybe she

632
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 4: was thinking about uh a t Well, I don't know.

633
00:30:50,160 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 4: There's there's more than one Atticus. Uh Atticus Finch. I

634
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: think you might be thinking about Addicts Christmas Addicts.

635
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, we.

636
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 4: Cover him, but Attics Finches, uh to kill a mocking bird?

637
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: So I don't know, man, she spelled it wrong either way.

638
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: Maybe she put the K in that for Samuel Addics.

639
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 4: But you know, congratulations.

640
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 3: Identify it well.

641
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 5: She said the baby.

642
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 4: She didn't reveal the identity or the ethnicity of the

643
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: baby's father. So apparently whatever she wants it to be,

644
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 4: I'm assuming that baby. No, it's gonna be black. It

645
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 4: don't matter if his father's Eminem. That baby's gonna be

646
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: black as far as she's concerned. So so there you go, man, good,

647
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 4: good for you, Rachel.

648
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 5: Go away.

649
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 3: She can't even have a baby.

650
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 5: Where is that?

651
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 3: What?

652
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 4: Having a baby is not a thing that she's doing

653
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 4: to that.

654
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 5: That's her life. That's just her life.

655
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 4: She didn't want to talk show about having a baby.

656
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 3: No she doesn't. But but it don't got to be

657
00:31:59,000 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: the fucking front page.

658
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 4: And it was. It wasn't the front page. I went

659
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 4: and saw this on the roof dot com and I

660
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,960
Speaker 4: just thought it would be an interesting thing to cover. Man,

661
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,239
Speaker 4: I know it's gonna engender all this hate. Damn, it

662
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 4: ain't the baby, Paul.

663
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, baby.

664
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 4: She just had a baby, that's all. Let's see what

665
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: else happened. Oh, a lot of people been talking about this.

666
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: Uh well, now the headline is a little misleading, but

667
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 4: it is also unfortunate and kind of true. A judge

668
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 4: won't let Kesha escape Doctor Luke contract despite the pop

669
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 4: stars sexual abuse allegations. The judge says it's not reasonable

670
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 4: to decimate a contract that was heavily negotiated. On Friday,

671
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 4: pop star Kesher Rose Sibert and songwriter producer Doctor Luke

672
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 4: squared off in the New York court room in a

673
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 4: contentious dispute in which the sanctity of a recording contract

674
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: has been examined in light of sexual abuse allegations. Doctor

675
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 4: Luke has come out ahead Kesha, who alleges that doctor

676
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 4: Luke drugged and raped her a decade ago and has

677
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: committed ongoing abuse, and has been pushing for a preliminary

678
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: injunction that would allow her to record outside of doctor

679
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: Luke's purview. Her attorneys have told the judge that the

680
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: careers of pop stars are short and that if an

681
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 4: injunction doesn't issue, there were irreparable harns she faces is

682
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 4: a ruined career.

683
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 5: After being briefed.

684
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 4: On the arguments, New York Supreme Court Justice Shirley corn reached.

685
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 5: Cornwich was skeptical.

686
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: You're asking the court to decimate a contract that was

687
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 4: heavily negotiated and typical for the industry, said the judge

688
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 4: to Mark Garagos, the attorney for Kesha, who sat in

689
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: the back row with her mother peeb and looked solemn.

690
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 5: Cornwich heard arguments.

691
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 4: That doctor Luke had investigate invested a substantial amount sixty

692
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 4: million dollars in her career, and that the producer had

693
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 4: agreed to allow her to record without his involvement. The

694
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: judge told Garylghos, that decimates your argument, adding my instinct

695
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 4: is to do the commercial, commercially reasonable thing.

696
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 5: Her decision to.

697
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,800
Speaker 4: Denying injunction came amid planned protests from Kesha fans outside

698
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 4: the courtroom. Doctor Luke's own position is that Kesha and

699
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 4: her reps are attempting to extort him in order to

700
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 4: extricate her from contracts with Luke Kimos with Luke's Chimosabi

701
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 4: Records label housed under Sony. He denies the sexual abuse

702
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 4: and attributes her action to becoming frustrated by a style career.

703
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,800
Speaker 4: His attorneys, led by Christine Leperer, have argued that Kesha's

704
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 4: claims come too late and are too vague, the harm

705
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,000
Speaker 4: is overstated, and she's not likely to prevail on her discrimination,

706
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 4: harassment and hate claim crime claims, nor beat his ones

707
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:42,760
Speaker 4: for allegedly breaching a contract and committing defamation. At today's hearing,

708
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 4: Justice Kornwright's role was sorting through this mess, deciding not

709
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 4: only whether an injunction should be issued, but also whether

710
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 4: or to grant either of the duly motions to dismiss.

711
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 4: Kornwright spoke of the lack of medical evidence, such as

712
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 4: hospital records, to corroborate the assault allegations.

713
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 5: I understand why I have to.

714
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: Take the extraordinary measure of granted an injunction, she said.

715
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 4: Garygos acknowledged that Kesha has always been amenable I mean

716
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 4: amenable yeah, to recording with Sony separate from Luke's company,

717
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 4: but also that the offer from the company's side amounted to.

718
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,399
Speaker 5: A loser lose.

719
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: It looks ilusively promise, which I think means she thought

720
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: there was lying, like they were saying, oh no, we're

721
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 4: not gonna have you do this, but that was bullshit.

722
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 5: They really weren't going.

723
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: To do it.

724
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 4: Kesha may have to oh back to may have to

725
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,479
Speaker 4: accept doctor Luke's offer as an only available option for

726
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 4: her at the moment. The judge didn't make a ruling

727
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 4: on the motions to dismiss, reserving that decision for a

728
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 4: later time, but did point out some vagueness in Kesha's

729
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: counterclaims and may have an opportunity to fiul and it

730
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 4: may give her an opportunity to foul an amended version.

731
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 4: So yeah, I promise that it's unenforceable due to its

732
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: indefiniteness and lack of mutuality where one side is bound

733
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 4: to perform. An example, this will be an agreement with

734
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: the selling bar, which states that the seller agrees to

735
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 4: sell all of the ice cream he wants to to

736
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: the bar. So yeah, basically, Kesha's whole thing is Sony said.

737
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 4: They offered to They offer to let me record without

738
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 4: doctor Luke being involved, but they really couldn't provide any

739
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 4: guarantee guaranteed, Like there was no nothing that they provided

740
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: that made me feel like, I he definitely wouldn't be involved, so.

741
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: I shouldn't have to deal with that.

742
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, And there was like a hashtag free Kesha, you know,

743
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 4: from her recording contract and stuff that was trending on

744
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 4: Twitter and stuff like that. I don't know, you know

745
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 4: what the alternative is gonna be, but it sounds like

746
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 4: she's gonna have to work with this guy's company quote

747
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 4: unquote not under his supervision, which if you think about it,

748
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 4: if if if you want to like put it this way,

749
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: if the idea is that she's faking.

750
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 5: Rape accusation and other.

751
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 4: Things to get out of this contract, Like to me,

752
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 4: that sounds like a stretch. But even if that was

753
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: the case, when you want to let her out of

754
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 4: the contract, you know what I mean, even if that

755
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: was the case, like I'm willing to like, if you

756
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 4: believe that version is that she's willing to lie and

757
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: fake a rape allegation to get out of a contract,

758
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: it seems like even if you thought the worst of her,

759
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 4: you would think, let's just get her, let her out

760
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 4: of the contract so she can go. The other thing

761
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 4: is with that, Yeah, as a company. It seems like

762
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,480
Speaker 4: you would just be like, yes, you can go.

763
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 3: It's cool, We're not gonna pay anything, but you can go.

764
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 3: Fisch contract.

765
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 4: You're obviously not happy here. By right, that's if you

766
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 4: don't believe her. If you believe her, then there's even

767
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 4: more reason to be like, yeah, you can go, like

768
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 4: and this guy gotta go.

769
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 5: And you know what I'm saying, like.

770
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 6: Right, because he's he's associated with Sony, which is the

771
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,720
Speaker 6: larger which is the larger entity that actually owns him.

772
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 6: So it's one of those things where you go, well, Sony,

773
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 6: do you really want to have this continue to go

774
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 6: to the court where your name is Sony name is

775
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 6: constantly thrown up up there, so for you know what

776
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 6: you're you're Sony, the company that's dealing with this fight

777
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 6: with kesher Man.

778
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 4: It sounds like the result is she has to record

779
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 4: with his company, but he says he won't be involved,

780
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 4: which I don't know how you forced that, so I

781
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 4: don't know, but I remember when I heard that last

782
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 4: year and I thought like, wow, this is this guy

783
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 4: intense because it went from kind of like we don't

784
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 4: like each other to he rape me, and it was

785
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: like ooh that that doesn't sound like a good environment

786
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 4: because legally, you're now working for.

787
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 5: Your rapist, correct, you know what I mean?

788
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 4: Like, regardless of the fact that he may or may

789
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 4: not be in out in the every day inner workings

790
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 4: of how you make an album, he's still the guy

791
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 4: signed in the checks. That's you know, that's gotta be

792
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: a terrible situation to be in.

793
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 6: Yep, And nobody cares about victims of rape. So it's

794
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 6: just one of those things where even if the judge

795
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 6: quote unquote believes her, she's like, well, bitch, you gotta

796
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 6: fulfill your contract, and it's like worhurt, Like that's what.

797
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: We're gonna do.

798
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 4: Jeff Bush has officially dropped out of the race for

799
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: Republican president.

800
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Good this shit dropped out a long time ago.

801
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, this came last week at the heat This came

802
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: this week. But last week he tweeted out a picture

803
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 4: of his gun, which is the most savage thing I've

804
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 4: ever seen. Come on now, I retweeted and just said, man,

805
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 4: I hope you're not thinking about harming yourself, because I

806
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 4: was thinking maybe he tweeted out to say, I'm gonna

807
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 4: kill myself with this gun.

808
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 5: You know, who knows. I didn't know.

809
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 4: People were just assuming he was like trying to scare

810
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 4: some people. But you know, don't know that he was

811
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,760
Speaker 4: trying to scare him. I just think he was tripping.

812
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, it's it's amazing. We're in an

813
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 4: age in the time where you can be running for

814
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 4: president and twit pick a fucking gun.

815
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 3: Only if you white, Only if white, Like, oh.

816
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 5: Well that's true. I mean Obama would never pick his glock.

817
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 6: Come on, only if you white, Yeah, because they would

818
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 6: demand that you not run and step down immediately you

819
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 6: twit pick a gun.

820
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just such a It's just such an amazing

821
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 4: thing that happened. Like I saw that picture and I

822
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 4: just went, Nah, that can't be And they name had

823
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 4: the name Governor jee Jeff Bush is embroidered on the gun.

824
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:40,880
Speaker 5: I mean it's etched into the steal.

825
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: So it ain't like you don't know who's gun blown.

826
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 5: He's probably never fired that ship.

827
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just hope you don't use it on

828
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 4: himself for nothing, because Jesus.

829
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, somebody bought it in the thing.

830
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 6: You know, they joke him because you know you're you're

831
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 6: the Bush and you didn't even win.

832
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: In fact, you didn't even get to the final two out.

833
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 4: Not just that, but this is like Eli mannon winning

834
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 4: two Super Bowls for Peyton on one.

835
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that And you know what, maybe it's just

836
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 6: me and I might be wrong, but I don't really

837
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 6: know if Jeff bush Weally wanted to run the first place.

838
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 6: I really like because the whole time he was trying

839
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 6: to be reasonable, he was trying to be rational.

840
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 3: I was like, you ain't gonna get far.

841
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, you ain't gonna get for being a middle man,

842
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 6: trying to quote unquote wait everybody.

843
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 5: Out, Yeah, son, not in this election.

844
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 6: Now, if there was no Donald Trump, you might have

845
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 6: a chance, but not with the clown car race they

846
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 6: got going on right now.

847
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's funny because he was trying anything.

848
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 4: Like, right before he put out that picture of his gun,

849
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 4: he had said, Uh, President Obama missed the opportunity to

850
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 4: promote his family as a model for others to follow. Uh,

851
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 4: this nigga got a drug addict daughter, his brother had

852
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 4: two fucking luscious as daughters.

853
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 5: While he was working in the White House.

854
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 4: Like, who the fuck are you to tell somebody else

855
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 4: about how they family should be behaving.

856
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 5: In the White House. You'll never be there unless you're visiting.

857
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, he said, this is a place where I think

858
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: President Obama missed a real golden opportunity because he has

859
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 4: a stable family, loving children, great balanced children from what

860
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 4: I could tell, a strong relationship with his wife, and

861
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 4: he could have shown that as a model for others

862
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: to emulate. And I think he I don't think he's

863
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 4: done it as much. You know that that's a well,

864
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 4: not just that, you know that's clearly dog whistling for

865
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: Black people don't have good family. So if they saw

866
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 4: that Obama's having a good family, they would want to

867
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 4: do it. Maybe he's a private person, but I think

868
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 4: that's important. Bush set of Obama. I think how you

869
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,959
Speaker 4: lead your life as president is important as a five

870
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 4: point plan, and you have to deal with whatever subject

871
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 4: it is. So he argued that Bush argued that family

872
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 4: is the best remedy to alleviate in pop and lifting

873
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 4: people out of socioeconomic class they were born into, pointing

874
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 4: to welfare programs that discouraged marriage by time benefits to

875
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 4: non medal status.

876
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: So all right, anyway, glad he's gonna me too.

877
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 4: Plus, it just felt like Trump was giving him a

878
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 4: wedgie the whole debate.

879
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: So yeah, he did. He didn't stand a chance. You

880
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 3: should have.

881
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: Like I said, I really don't think running was his

882
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 6: idea because honestly, I think if this was his idea,

883
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 6: he'd have stuck in there. I really think that he

884
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 6: was running because somebody pushed him or told him to run. Uh.

885
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 4: Porn star Danika Dylon has dropped her lawsuit against Josh

886
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 4: Duggart reportedly acknowledges she made up the rough sex claims,

887
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 4: which is really fucked up because, uh she she basically

888
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 4: said that he sexually assaulted her last year when when

889
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 4: that the like he had a dating profile thing came

890
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 4: out and uh she and then it even then there

891
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 4: was like evidence that he could not have been having

892
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:06,959
Speaker 4: sex with her at the times and days that she said,

893
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 4: because he was in other places, at other events where

894
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: it was verified, like he just wouldn't have been able

895
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 4: to make it wherever she was.

896
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 5: But she continued to go forth with it.

897
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 4: Well, she filed a five hundred thousand dollar lawsuit against

898
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 4: Josh Dugagh over rough sex allegations, and she has now

899
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 4: dropped her claim. That was the Other thing too, is

900
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 4: it was allegedly consensual sex. You know, it wasn't like

901
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 4: a rape thing, but she said he got too rough

902
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 4: during sex. Then he convinced her that he changed, and

903
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 4: then they met up again and they had sex and

904
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 4: he was even rougher, So she was suing him for that. Now,

905
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,439
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people piled on because hey,

906
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: at the time, he was public intem me number one,

907
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 4: because his family is you know, pieces of shit pretty much,

908
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: and they had this whole sexual scandal going on at

909
00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 4: the time, and I think they even lost their show

910
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 4: they did, So there's a lot of people being like, yeah,

911
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 4: fuck them, these what a sick animal, you know, getting

912
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: even more. But apparently she ended up having or she

913
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 4: ended up dropping the case. Now, you know, I don't

914
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 4: know that that means her point wasn't valid or what

915
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 4: her reasons were. But this is all according to TMZ.

916
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 4: Right Dylan unless she met Josh at the strip club

917
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,799
Speaker 4: where that she'd been working the past. She said later

918
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 4: had sex on two occasions, while the central it was

919
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 4: rough to the point of cause of her physical and

920
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: emotional injuries. But according to TMZ, she's now confirmed she

921
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 4: falsified her claim. Josh's lawyers have been have been about

922
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,240
Speaker 4: the foul paperwork of their own conclusively proven Josh's alibi,

923
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 4: TMZ explains. Previously previous reports had also cast out on

924
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 4: the timing of her allegations, given that Josh logistically couldn't

925
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 4: have been in the place that she claimed that she

926
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 4: was during their sex sessions, both in an intimate and

927
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 4: more general geographical context. If nothing else, the attention her

928
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 4: suit gain Dylan has landed her to cover of Hustling

929
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 4: magazine alongside a guy who paints with this penis and

930
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 4: some slutty girl scouts. You know what, man, this is

931
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 4: kind of fucked up too, because this feeds directly into

932
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 4: the well, you know, these bitches just be lying so

933
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: they can get, you know, more publicity and shit. So

934
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 4: it's like if you are telling these lies, you know,

935
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 4: and it's looking like, well, it's just to get attention

936
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 4: and it is benefiting your career, it just feeds into

937
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: all the fucking women that do end up getting slandered

938
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 4: by people that say that that's what happens.

939
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 3: And they actually got assaulted.

940
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, yeah, all the people that you know are

941
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 4: actual victims. And then you come in and you're like.

942
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 6: Most women they come forward. Half, they are not making

943
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 6: the ship.

944
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: Up right, So it's like, why would you want to

945
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 4: come in on someone, I'm gonna ride the wave type bullshit,

946
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 4: setting a lot of you know, setting back this the

947
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 4: entire I don't know.

948
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 5: It's just so fucked up, man.

949
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 4: That's a thing to do, man, And especially when you

950
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 4: do like it's not like she was like, oh I

951
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,360
Speaker 4: got intimidated or they just gave me enough money to

952
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 4: go away. It's oh no, we got evidence that he's

953
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 4: wasn't where you said, Okay, I'm dropping my suit, you

954
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 4: know what I mean, that's gonna happen. I don't know, man,

955
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 4: especially Yeah, one, it's one of those things where did

956
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 4: it really truly sound like she made this up?

957
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 6: And I said, most victims to come forward don't make

958
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 6: this up. They really have been sexually assaulted and there's

959
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 6: no benefit from them coming forward.

960
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's so that's really messed up, man.

961
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: That's why most don't.

962
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 5: Raving Simone ed.

963
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 4: Speaking of liars, she said that she was shoved off

964
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 4: of the red carpet because people saw Kylie Jenner come

965
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 4: in and she got pushed off the carpet.

966
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 3: Because it's because you have a ghetto name.

967
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 4: Well, there's actual video of the moment that she says,

968
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 4: this thing happened lord, and now that the videos out,

969
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 4: you can see the real.

970
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 3: I like it. What's the fun beauty product that you

971
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: can't live without? You're busy, you're on the view, you're

972
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 3: always working. Elizabeth Arden, Elizabeth Arden, eight hour queen. Oh

973
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: that's okay, someone's more important. That was left on her

974
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 3: own accord? What is happening here?

975
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 4: That's still as salt can. She was pushed off the

976
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 4: red carpet and she was assaulted, and of course she

977
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 4: needed to, you know, needed to let the world know.

978
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 5: So she has been she she clearly was pushcaring. Didn't

979
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 5: you see the shove?

980
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 6: I saw her shove of her own ass out the way,

981
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 6: trying to move talking about something more important coming.

982
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 4: So I don't know, uh, let's see what else still

983
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 4: want to talk about.

984
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,760
Speaker 5: Oh, here's one. This is kind of heavy.

985
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 4: A lot of people are getting into this, and a

986
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 4: lot of people were like, y'all talk about it on

987
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,480
Speaker 4: the show, and I was like, I don't know if

988
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I don't know that we're gonna agree on this.

989
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: But apparently one of the actual black lives Matter organization.

990
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 5: Leaders, not you know, the way that people.

991
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,920
Speaker 4: Generally refer to black freedom and civil rights like movement

992
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 4: as Black Lives Matter, but like an actual co founder

993
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 4: of Black Lives Matter in Chicago. I believe her name

994
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 4: was Aslen Pulley or Aisleen Pully. She decided that she

995
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 4: didn't want to go meet President Obama. President Obama had

996
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 4: a pow wow where he invited civil rights activists and

997
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,600
Speaker 4: leaders from around the country to the White House to

998
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,320
Speaker 4: discuss range of issues February eighteen.

999
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 5: I think Deray went. There were a bunch of people

1000
00:50:06,600 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 5: that actually did go.

1001
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: Some people enjoyed and found it to be a fulfilling meeting.

1002
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 4: I believe the President actually stayed longer than he promised

1003
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 4: that he would, so you know, they were able to

1004
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 4: get more said and spoke and discussed than they were

1005
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 4: then they originally even thought they would.

1006
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 5: But as Lene.

1007
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: Decided not to go, and she wrote on truthout dot

1008
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 4: org and it's truth that out dot org her reasoning

1009
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 4: for not going.

1010
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 3: You know, she ain't to me, but that's just me. Yeah, personally,

1011
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 3: she don't want to go, she don't have to go.

1012
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 6: There's no obligation for her to go, and people just

1013
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,560
Speaker 6: flip the fucking foods when they were. It does not

1014
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 6: matter if she don't want to go, she's not obligated

1015
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,399
Speaker 6: to right.

1016
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 4: And honestly, while he's black and he's the president, he

1017
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,800
Speaker 4: still is president of the United States. So he's always

1018
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 4: going to represent the establishment, the status quo to a

1019
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: lot of people, the opposition to a lot of people,

1020
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 4: and the imagery and what it means to be seen

1021
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,200
Speaker 4: with the president. It is not always positive to a

1022
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 4: lot of people. Just depends on your perspective. Some people's

1023
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 4: perspective it's like, well, now it looks like I've been

1024
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 4: co opted, you know. Now it looks like I just

1025
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 4: wanted to do all this shit, know, to nudge up

1026
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: to the president. And that's not why I did it.

1027
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1028
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 4: Now people will use this against me, you know, whatever

1029
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 4: they try to dis to when they try to show

1030
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 4: that my message is not real, they'll go, well, look

1031
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 4: at you. You just want to take pictures with the president.

1032
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: I mean, you say you against some of his policies,

1033
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 4: but here you are.

1034
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 5: You know. It's kind of like what happened to Chris.

1035
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 4: Christy, you know, where it's like it's unfairs that criticism

1036
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 4: can be people are like, oh, you ain't have a

1037
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 4: problem hugging up to Obama when you said da da

1038
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 4: da dah.

1039
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 6: You like, yeah, because I needed money from my state.

1040
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,960
Speaker 6: I am a representative for the people, right.

1041
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: But I'm saying that as an activist with her, it

1042
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 4: would still be kind of like, you know, say the

1043
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 4: president comes out and he has to do his thing,

1044
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 4: where no president is ever gonna be able to say

1045
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: the police are corrupt and killing people and bad. He's

1046
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 4: never no president's ever gonna be able to say that.

1047
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 4: So every single president that will ever talk about police

1048
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 4: doing something bad is gonna have to preface it with

1049
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 4: police are mostly good and they have a hard job

1050
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 4: and it's very tough what they do. Then they're gonna,

1051
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 4: you know, then some presidents, not all, some presidents will

1052
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:37,720
Speaker 4: then turn and go and this is where the police

1053
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 4: fucked up. You know what I'm saying. Most are not

1054
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 4: going to even say that part. But let's just but

1055
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 4: keeping it real that the job is not gonna allow

1056
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 4: you to come out there and just be like, yo,

1057
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,839
Speaker 4: the police are ferguson our pieces of shit. The end

1058
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: you gotta then you gotta go into it. But we

1059
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 4: can't burn down this convenience store. You know, like you

1060
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: can't just come out and unen and just unabashedly support

1061
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: black people.

1062
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 5: This is not gonna happen with that office. So some

1063
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 5: people need to be.

1064
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 4: Distanced from that in general, because you may or you

1065
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 4: may already or have to and continue to critique the

1066
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: office of the president and the man that is the

1067
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 4: president or the woman that's the president, whatever happens after this, right,

1068
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: So it's understood to me before even reading this.

1069
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 3: Right.

1070
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,920
Speaker 4: But what happens is people see the headline black Lives

1071
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 4: Matter leader doesn't meet with president, and then they go, oh,

1072
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 4: all these niggas don't meet with the president. One is

1073
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 4: one person explain to her perspective to many people did

1074
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 4: meet with the president, and you can follow them on

1075
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 4: Twitter and their social media and see what they felt

1076
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 4: about it.

1077
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 5: You know, some of them felt more positive than others.

1078
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 4: Three, just because the other people enjoyed it, and because

1079
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,840
Speaker 4: he gave a longer.

1080
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 5: Opportunity to discuss it then.

1081
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 4: They had anticipated, doesn't mean that she would have enjoyed it.

1082
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: Correct.

1083
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 4: So I saw a lot of people being like, well,

1084
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 4: the ray seem to have a good time, and he

1085
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 4: said that it was very you know, it was a

1086
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 4: lot better done than he thought. Yeah, as soon he

1087
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 4: might have went there and still walked out like it

1088
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:15,880
Speaker 4: was bullshit.

1089
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 5: To me, it was nothing but a glorified for a while.

1090
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 5: I don't like this shit.

1091
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 4: And y'all would have been mad at her for saying that, too, right,

1092
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,920
Speaker 4: you know, so Yeah. February eighteen, civil rights activists and

1093
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: leaders from around the country were invited to the White

1094
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: House for what Obama then Marlow administration has called the

1095
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,640
Speaker 4: first of its kind intergenerational meaning to discuss a range

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Speaker 4: of issues, including administration's efforts on criminal justice reform and

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00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 4: building trust between law enforcement and communities they serve. The

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00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 4: event guest list included high profile civil rights leaders such

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Speaker 4: as Al Sharpton, student organizer Daishanya Ware, and others. As

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00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 4: the co founder of Black Lives Matter Chicago, I was

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00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 4: issued in invitation to this event, and various news outlests

1102
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: have already listed me as an attendee, But as a

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00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 4: radical black organizer living and working in a city that

1104
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 4: is now widely recognized as a symbol little corruption of

1105
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 4: police violence, how did I feel that a handshake with

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00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: the president is the best way for me? To honor

1107
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 4: Black History Month or the black freedom fighters whose labor

1108
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,319
Speaker 4: laid the groundwork for the historic movement that we are

1109
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 4: living in. I respectfully declined the invitation to the White

1110
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,880
Speaker 4: House to discuss the criminal legal reform and to celebrate

1111
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: Black History Month. I was under the impression that a

1112
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 4: meeting was being organized to facilitate a genuine exchange on

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00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 4: the matters facing the millions of black and brown people

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00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 4: in the United States. Instead, what was arranged was basically

1115
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 4: a photo opportunity in a ninety second sound bite for

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00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 4: the President. I cannot with any integrity participate in such

1117
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 4: a sham that will only serve to legitimize the false

1118
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 4: narrative that the government is working in police brutality and

1119
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 4: the institutional racism that feels it for the increasing number

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00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 4: of families fighting for justice and dignity for that can

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00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 4: slain by police. I refuse giving to give its perpetrators

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00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 4: and enable its political cover by making an appearance among them.

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Speaker 5: So to me, like I said, it seems.

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00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 4: That the meeting didn't turn out to be the ninety

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Speaker 4: second sound bite or the.

1126
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 5: Just a photo op or whatever.

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00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 4: But at the same time, I don't know that she

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00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: would think that, like, she may attended this meeting and

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00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: still came away feeling this way. And I understand people

1130
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 4: being like, well, you'll never know if you don't go,

1131
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 4: but she already had made up her mind not to go,

1132
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 4: And if other people went and didn't have that experience,

1133
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 4: then that's good for them. Angela Davis, I believe was

1134
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 4: I think I just saw someone asking her, think it

1135
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 4: was Angela Davis, like who, like, who do you support.

1136
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,240
Speaker 5: Bernie and Hillary?

1137
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: And she was like, I don't really support the political

1138
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 4: process of voting for a president and all that shit

1139
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 4: in the first place, Like that's not gonna.

1140
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: Change people dying in the streets.

1141
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, and I was like, yeah, I

1142
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,319
Speaker 4: understand that point of view, do you know. So it's

1143
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 4: kind of interesting to see people turn on folks because

1144
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:53,879
Speaker 4: you know.

1145
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,479
Speaker 3: It's like it was like, on my side, is black

1146
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:57,720
Speaker 3: people dying right?

1147
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 6: Like like people And it's funny now people quote unquote

1148
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 6: claim they want you to be they don't like, you

1149
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 6: can't be concerned about these multiple things at one time.

1150
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 6: But if you concerned about this only one thing, people go, well,

1151
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 6: why aren't you concerned about this other shit? It's like, well,

1152
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 6: my whole purpose is stop killing us. Well what about this, No,

1153
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 6: my goal is stopped killing us, And people try to

1154
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 6: derail the focus of whatever this person's mission.

1155
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 3: The goal is.

1156
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 6: And it's just weird sometimes when you see people not

1157
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 6: respond well to somebody saying that I prefer to decline

1158
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 6: for my own personal reasons, and it's like, well, it's

1159
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 6: the president, but that does not matter to me. It

1160
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 6: doesn't matter who runs the country because at the end

1161
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 6: of the day, I just want people to stop dying

1162
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 6: and people to be treated right, which is much larger

1163
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 6: than the position of whoever is running the president.

1164
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And like I said, I understand her point of view,

1165
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 4: and I think people need to allow for a few

1166
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,880
Speaker 4: things here, one of those being that.

1167
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 5: The people who.

1168
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 4: The people who decide these things based on the idea

1169
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 4: that you know, they are speaking up in the ways

1170
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 4: that they can to try to stop ed to our

1171
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 4: blackness in this country. If you were sitting on your couch,

1172
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: then shut the fuck up, you know what I mean. Like,

1173
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,720
Speaker 4: it's okay for her to have a different opinion than you.

1174
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 5: It's you know what I mean. It's like she didn't

1175
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 5: even shut down.

1176
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 4: She's not disrespecting President Obama, She's not, you know, doing

1177
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 4: any of that shit, Like just it's cool, she is

1178
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 4: a black person that just doesn't have the same opinion

1179
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 4: of you.

1180
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 5: She respectfully declined. She didn't call.

1181
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 4: Him like a coon or some shit, or she didn't

1182
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 4: say everybody a canon is a piece of shit. Like

1183
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 4: if you read that into it, or if there's like

1184
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:51,240
Speaker 4: some personal issues with her where you you know that

1185
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 4: that's what she's subtweeting or whatever to this you know,

1186
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 4: to this article.

1187
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Speaker 5: I don't.

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00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 4: I don't have that insight. But yeah, in general, like

1189
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 4: we have to allow that black people that may have

1190
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,480
Speaker 4: the same goals and the same ideas in mind, just

1191
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,920
Speaker 4: serve different functions and not everybody's of one accord all

1192
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Speaker 4: the time. You know, sometimes I see like the interactivist

1193
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 4: beef through Twitter and shit because I follow different people

1194
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 4: that are involved in that space. And even then I'm like,

1195
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 4: you know, it's easy for everyone on the outside to

1196
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: be like that's petty or why can't y'all just do

1197
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 4: But it's like that that's also unrealistic to think that

1198
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,480
Speaker 4: all black people just gonna.

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Speaker 5: Get along and that you know, there'll be no.

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Speaker 4: No conflicts of personality, no conflicts of interest. No, nobody

1201
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 4: that's that has decided to do things a different way

1202
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 4: and all of the debate that comes along with that,

1203
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 4: you know, not to mention. Just like I said, and

1204
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 4: I've been trying to stress it on the show, but

1205
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 4: even the title black Lives Matter.

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Speaker 5: Is just not really true.

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Speaker 4: For like, there's black Lives Matter is organization, But as

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Speaker 4: far as the media is concerned, black Lives Matter is

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Speaker 4: any black person that's talking about, you know, talking about

1210
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Speaker 4: black shit. Yeah, you know, it's like, oh, okay, you're

1211
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 4: in black Lives Matter now, you know you you you know?

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Speaker 4: I remember, like I said, I had a hashtag pop

1213
01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,280
Speaker 4: off Bernie so Black, and I saw some articles called

1214
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Speaker 4: me an activist, you know what I mean? Just I

1215
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 4: never described myself as an activist. I wouldn't describe myself

1216
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 4: as an activist. And yet there we are, here we are,

1217
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:33,919
Speaker 4: I'm an activist. Now somebody read those articles and got

1218
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,520
Speaker 4: mad at me, Like they would be wrong to be

1219
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 4: mad at me, but they would be right to be mad.

1220
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 4: I'm not an activist and I don't claim that right,

1221
01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:43,280
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 5: And I didn't get to write the article.

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Speaker 4: I don't decide which words they use and for In

1224
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 4: a large part, there's this struggle between Black Lives Matter

1225
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 4: and other activists. Because Black Lives Matter the org I mean,

1226
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 4: and versus just Black Lives Matter, the movement, all of

1227
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 4: us gets labeled the same shit. So you have people

1228
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 4: that are like so and so's in Black Lives Matter,

1229
01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 4: and it's like, but they're not like.

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01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 5: They are they do like, they don't.

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Speaker 6: The same Yeah, yeah, but as far as like the

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Speaker 6: official organization.

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Speaker 4: And there's not really a clear distinction being made in

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01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 4: the media or uh. And the only time I see

1235
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 4: a distinction made among activists is normally during some type

1236
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 4: of beef, not like there has I haven't seen this official,

1237
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 4: like public statement of here are the people in Black

1238
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 4: Lives Matter. If they're not these people, please don't refer

1239
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 4: to them as part of our organization.

1240
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 5: They may be, remember, you know, they're part of this movement.

1241
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's kind of complicated, but I think

1242
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 4: a lot of that leads to some of this infighting

1243
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 4: and shit, and it also leads to people feeling like

1244
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:51,600
Speaker 4: they own everybody under this label. So when someone says

1245
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 4: I'm in Black Lives Matter, I'm a co founder of

1246
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 4: the Chicago chapter. But I'm also not going to see

1247
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 4: the president. And it leads to a bunch of titles

1248
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 4: on articles that just said Black Lives Matter, refusal to

1249
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,680
Speaker 4: leave with President, meet with president, and then you have

1250
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 4: all this reaction. You know, So at any rate, I'm

1251
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 4: not mad at this lady. You know, if she don't

1252
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 4: want to meet with the president, she doesn't have to. Man,

1253
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 4: it's you know, I don't because the other part of

1254
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 4: this is I don't think her meaning with the president

1255
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 4: is going to change anything that the other people who

1256
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 4: did go meet with the president would change, you know

1257
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, because it's in't a lot of like,

1258
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 4: you know, well, if she doesn't meet, other people are

1259
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:33,440
Speaker 4: going gods, don't don't come down on her, you know it,

1260
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 4: Like I'm sure someone else will convey the ideas that

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01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 4: they would like convey, you know. So you know, and

1262
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: some people went and in Jordan felt that there was

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01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 4: a positive experience, you know, and I would know that

1264
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 4: I wouldn't doubt the sincerity either, you know, because I

1265
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:54,560
Speaker 4: feel like that's the other thing is like when they went,

1266
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 4: obviously they pieces of shit.

1267
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,040
Speaker 5: Now it's like I don't doubt that sincerity.

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Speaker 3: You know.

1269
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 4: Also, I believe who else was it? Oh yeah, so

1270
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 4: apparently they do have an article about it on time

1271
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,720
Speaker 4: the meeting met with The meeting with President Obama lasted

1272
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 4: over ninety minutes for over an hour on Thursday, thirty

1273
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 4: one year old actives activists and educator Brittany Packnett set

1274
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 4: beside President Obama at the table in the Roosevelt Room

1275
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 4: in the White House for a unique meeting of the minds.

1276
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 4: The nation's first African American president convenied the group of

1277
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 4: activists both young and old, for a discussion on how

1278
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 4: he can spend his final year office tackling issues that

1279
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 4: impact the black community, from criminal justice refeimner police community relations.

1280
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 4: The one activist for Obama's hometown publicly slamed the meeting

1281
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 4: as a photo opportunity in the ninety second sound bite

1282
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 4: for the president. According to Packnett, the meeting was the

1283
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 4: complete opposite of that. So they're already are trying to

1284
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 4: pit them against each other. We had a conversation that

1285
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 4: lasted for over ninety minutes, packing untils time. The President

1286
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 4: actually extended himselves because he wants to continue the conversation.

1287
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 4: We had a lot of opportunity to elevate various strategies

1288
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 4: that are helping happening on the ground, as far as

1289
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 4: criminal justice reform, working on police violence, and the systemic

1290
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 4: educational inequities. Pacnan is one of several young activists to

1291
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 4: emerge onto the national stage in the wake of the

1292
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 4: events in Ferguson. She was a key member to the

1293
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 4: movement around the Michael Brown shooting, and she went on

1294
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 4: to serve on the President's Task Force on the twenty

1295
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 4: first Century Policing, a body which released a report outline

1296
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 4: of some steps that could be taken to improve relationships

1297
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 4: between communities and color and the police. On Thursday, she

1298
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 4: sat us alongside Al Sharpton, the founder and president of

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01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:39,320
Speaker 4: the National Action Network, Wade Henderson, to the President of

1300
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 4: the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights, fellow protest

1301
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 4: and Campaign Zero co founder Deray McKesson for what the

1302
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 4: White House does as an intergenerational meeting.

1303
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 5: The energy in the.

1304
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 4: Room, Pacnet says a spirited though those gathered made no

1305
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 4: of the historic nature of the meeting, there was a

1306
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 4: great sense of urgency among the leaders, both young and old,

1307
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 4: to make progress on the range of issues their conversation

1308
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Speaker 4: with the President included criminal justice reform, policing, voting rights,

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Speaker 4: and nomination to the Supreme Court justice of a Supreme

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Speaker 4: Court justice. They also discussed one use of police force,

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Speaker 4: police policies and included hog time and shoot the Kill.

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Speaker 4: According to Pacnet, President Obama agreed to investigate those issues

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Speaker 4: on the federal level. A lot of conversations was not

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Speaker 4: just about what can happen in the next ten months,

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Speaker 4: but in the next ten years, as we can come

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Speaker 4: together and continue to do work. Patnic says, one of

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01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 4: the most important things that the President has said.

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Speaker 5: For all of us to continue to focus on the work.

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01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 4: Pacnet made a point that because the Black Lives Latter

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Speaker 4: movement is decentralized, as flexibility among those affiliated to use

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01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 4: that was to say in ways that they see fit,

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01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 4: a statement she said was not aimed at the Chicago

1323
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 4: activists who stubve the event, we can utilize so many tactics.

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01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 4: Protests is incredibly important, policies incredibly important. It was important

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Speaker 4: that there were real protests in the room today and

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Speaker 4: that this White House continue to engage with protests and

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01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: activists across the country.

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Speaker 5: At the meeting, President Obama also called it a robust.

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Speaker 4: Conversation, saying there's no better way for as celebrated Black

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Speaker 4: history mom. Uh yeah, And he also said they were

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Speaker 4: better organizers than he ever was when he was in.

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Speaker 5: Chicago or whatever.

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Speaker 4: But like I said, man, I think people need to

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01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 4: realize that despite the end goals, there's not one way

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01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 4: to get there, Nope, and not everybody's gonna agree on

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Speaker 4: every way.

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Speaker 3: So and uh, it's.

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Speaker 6: One of those things where you have to have people

1339
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 6: fighting on the inside, and you also have to have

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01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:41,240
Speaker 6: people fighting on the outside. And sometimes people on the

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01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 6: outside come in and sometimes people on the outside choose

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01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 6: to stay out purposefully too, because like, you have to

1343
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 6: do it on both fronts, and you need to me personally,

1344
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 6: you need people on both fronts constantly pushing the issues.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've read I don't know whether it was Adam

1346
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 4: Clayton Powell's biography if it was.

1347
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 5: This thing with Muhammad Ali, but it was.

1348
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:06,640
Speaker 4: I do remember that being like this behind the scenes, like, yeah,

1349
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 4: we work together, but in public it may seem that

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01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 4: we're working against each other or we have problems with

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01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,200
Speaker 4: each other, but behind the scenes we realize both of

1352
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 4: these elements need to exist. Or else it's pointless, you know,

1353
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:23,240
Speaker 4: so you know who knows who's working together and who's not.

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01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 4: And the framing the media would like is these activists

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01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 4: are beefing with each other so that they can dismiss

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01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 4: them periods. Yeah, but the work's not going away, and

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01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 4: the need for this work isn't going away, and the

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01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 4: need for people to be speaking about it isn't going away.

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01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 4: So at the end of the day, it doesn't really matter.

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01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 4: They can put headlines that make it seem easy to

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01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:50,480
Speaker 4: dismiss them a million times, but it's just never gonna.

1362
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 5: It's never gonna go away.

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Speaker 4: And like I said, I don't completely understand the inner

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01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 4: workings of who has gripes with who and why, you

1365
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 4: know what I mean. From what I've been able to gather,

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01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 4: it seems that Black Lives Matter as an organization existed

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01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 4: before Ferguson, but it wasn't until Mike Brown was shot

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01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 4: and killed in the street that that really took off

1369
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 4: on Twitter and all this stuff because that was the

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01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,719
Speaker 4: hashtag people were using.

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Speaker 5: And because of that.

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Speaker 4: It has also caused a lot of confusion as people

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01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 4: associate folks that aren't even in the organization of Black

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01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:35,760
Speaker 4: Lives Matter with the movement of Black Lives Matter, and

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,520
Speaker 4: it seems that there's people that feel like the organization

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01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 4: hasn't taken enough steps to distance themselves from the movement

1377
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,080
Speaker 4: and say, this isn't our movement, this is not something

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01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 4: we started as far as being on the ground and

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01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 4: Ferguson and organizing all this stuff, although we do have

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01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 4: some of the same goals of black freedom and liberation

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01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:02,759
Speaker 4: in mind. Then and then of course by not disancing

1382
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:06,960
Speaker 4: themselves when people write about it, obviously it big ups

1383
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,920
Speaker 4: the ORG and big downs the ORG right because whenever

1384
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,200
Speaker 4: people disagree, they still associated with the whole organization.

1385
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:16,720
Speaker 5: So you have you know, you have that.

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Speaker 4: And then there's been a lot of like, these people

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Speaker 4: are the ones who started Black Lives Matter, and they

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01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 4: don't get any credit, while there's people from Ferguson that

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01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 4: are like, well, they didn't start this movement though, like

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01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 4: maybe they started that organization, but we're not members of

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01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 4: that organization, and we had people down here trying to help,

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01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 4: you know. So it seems to be like a lot

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01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 4: of inner workings right there. And it doesn't help when

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01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 4: a headline that talks about Black Lives Matter immediately just

1395
01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:52,200
Speaker 4: says black Lives Matter, blank, no explanation, And it could

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01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:54,559
Speaker 4: be one person, it could be it could be somebody

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01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,679
Speaker 4: who's not even a member. But it's just like Black

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01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 4: Lives Matter does this, or Black Lives Matter organizes so

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01:10:00,120 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 4: and so, and it's like, well, is this person did

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01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 4: you vet that person as a member of this of

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01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 4: any of these chapters? Are they just saying they black right?

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01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:11,760
Speaker 4: Or you're just saying a black person talking about black shit?

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01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 4: Is black Lives Matter?

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01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:14,719
Speaker 5: Right?

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01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 4: So it's you know, it's it seems to be pretty complicated,

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01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 4: and the media doesn't seem no one to like sess

1407
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 4: it out, so it's kind of ends up in the

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01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 4: hands of different activists and organizations to like fight it out,

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01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 4: which is is kind of you know, which is kind

1410
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,360
Speaker 4: of unfortunate because it seems like better journalism would do

1411
01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:36,719
Speaker 4: a lot of the work for people.

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01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I don't and maybe because I'm old, but

1413
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:43,519
Speaker 6: I think a lot of real journalism is dead now.

1414
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 6: I think journalism is a lot of people that are

1415
01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 6: journalists now if they're fucking lazy, that all they want

1416
01:10:49,120 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 6: is click pieces. Nobody does their research anymore. You do

1417
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 6: have something to do. Most don't though most people don't

1418
01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:57,599
Speaker 6: do their research. Most people don't check to be sure

1419
01:10:57,640 --> 01:10:59,280
Speaker 6: that shit is valid. Most people just want to be

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01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 6: the first verse be right.

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01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 4: And I've seen like Deray and net are clarified that

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01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 4: they're not in the organization of Black Lives Matter many times, you.

1424
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 3: Know what I mean talking.

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01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've seen them be like, yeah, I'm not in

1426
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 4: this organization. I'm not even a joiner like that, and

1427
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 4: people will still be like the next headline black Lives

1428
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 4: Matter activists, and it's like, what are you gonna do?

1429
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,720
Speaker 5: You know? Anyway, good luck to.

1430
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 4: Everybody involved, you know, And uh, oh, let's go to this.

1431
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 5: Have you heard about this Damn Daniel thing. Nope?

1432
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 4: Well, apparently there's a team that went viral for rocking

1433
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:53,280
Speaker 4: some sick vans v A n s. Let me see

1434
01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:55,759
Speaker 4: if I can play the audio of the clip.

1435
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:07,840
Speaker 8: Daniel, damn Daniel, damn Daniel, Damn Daniel, back at it

1436
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:16,679
Speaker 8: again with the white man. Damn Daniel, Damn Daniel, Damn Daniel,

1437
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 8: Damn Daniel, Damn Daniel, back at it again with the

1438
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:26,839
Speaker 8: white Vans dusty man, Damn Daniel.

1439
01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, sounds like some that just ship.

1440
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 1: Ye.

1441
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 5: Apparently that he went viral for rocking them white vans, doog.

1442
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,240
Speaker 3: I like that.

1443
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 5: That's cute people. Uh, people really enjoying the white vans.

1444
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,719
Speaker 5: I saw this all on Twitter.

1445
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 3: Shoes, right, I'm assuming issues.

1446
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:46,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, the shoes.

1447
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna make shoes say go up?

1448
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 5: Maybe you know.

1449
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 4: It's just it's just all someone collected all the clips

1450
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:57,759
Speaker 4: of being of them complimenting on his vans.

1451
01:12:57,800 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 5: That's just anyway.

1452
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:01,920
Speaker 3: And the person's voice made video.

1453
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 5: Damn Daniel, damn Dane. I like that, all right. Let's see.

1454
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 4: I feel like we're pretty much fucking with black people already.

1455
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 5: Uh uh.

1456
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 4: Let me just double check to see if does any

1457
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 4: stories under here that I really wanted to cover.

1458
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I do want to cover this one. All right.

1459
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 5: So here's here's a fucking with black people for everybody.

1460
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:34,240
Speaker 5: Let's see. I'll put this music on so we can

1461
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:46,519
Speaker 5: get it right. We're just fucking with those black people.

1462
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 5: Were just fucking with those blacks. We're just fucking with

1463
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 5: fucking with black people.

1464
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,600
Speaker 4: That's right, guys. It's time to play the game, and

1465
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 4: we all hate to play. It's fucking with black people.

1466
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,919
Speaker 4: The game where we go around and got up articles

1467
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,479
Speaker 4: that fuck with black people, and we scorn from zero

1468
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 4: to one hundred and intervals of twenty five for how

1469
01:14:05,400 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 4: much we feel fucked with as black people. Today's contestants, Uh, everybody,

1470
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 4: but mostly hotels.

1471
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 5: Here we go.

1472
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:22,000
Speaker 4: Why are hoteps calling for the resignation of Ebony Senior

1473
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 4: editor Jamila Lamiue?

1474
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:24,679
Speaker 3: Oh shit?

1475
01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 5: Written by Charmelody.

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 3: They got a HOTEP chapter. What's happening to here?

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01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 5: Uh? Yeah, normally hotels.

1478
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 4: It seems as some sort of a uh what we

1479
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:41,360
Speaker 4: were calling insult has been going around, but uh not

1480
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:43,799
Speaker 4: everybody finds it to be insulting.

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01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 5: Uh.

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01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 4: Charmelody Uh says, as a woman in a highly respected

1483
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 4: position irresponsible for the impressions placed on the minds of many,

1484
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:59,760
Speaker 4: Jamala Lemue has been deemed irresponsible. With authority comes responsibility,

1485
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,240
Speaker 4: and I'm going to unfold how careless she is being

1486
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 4: with her position of power. She quoted a tweet from

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01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 4: Jamilla that says the University of YouTube presents this year's valedictorians.

1488
01:15:10,240 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 4: She did her thesis work at alex L on alex

1489
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:19,639
Speaker 4: L means and it's linked to this lady who wrote

1490
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:25,760
Speaker 4: this Charmelody's Twitter account. What she wrote feminism may have

1491
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:28,759
Speaker 4: provided the emotional pedestal for Black pride, but did nothing

1492
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 4: more than aid and destroying Black families. Women got overly

1493
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 4: cocky and failed their own men in exchange for freedom

1494
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 4: for oppression, which is in quotes from a question, infiltrate

1495
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,560
Speaker 4: the family with an ideology that feels good. Let the

1496
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 4: people you infiltrated destroy themselves as lack of knowledge and

1497
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 4: blind faith. Black women are not God. Black men are

1498
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 4: not God. The unity of Black men and Black women

1499
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 4: is God. Who wrote this? Charmelody? This is her Twitter accounts.

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01:15:55,640 --> 01:16:02,760
Speaker 4: She's also the person who wrote this article, so she's

1501
01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:05,719
Speaker 4: if you want to know what she's currently tweeting about.

1502
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 4: She penned this tweet natural hair is the bitch nigga repellent.

1503
01:16:10,280 --> 01:16:13,759
Speaker 4: It's like ray for the simple minded, materialistic, calcified flesh

1504
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:14,799
Speaker 4: eating fake niggas.

1505
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:21,719
Speaker 3: Ha. They woke, y'all, stay woke.

1506
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1507
01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 4: So anyway she wrote this, My colleagues and I have

1508
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 4: been assaulted by this woman and her feminist coat on

1509
01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 4: numerous occasions. That's right, y'alling the feminist coat. Now, if

1510
01:16:37,080 --> 01:16:40,879
Speaker 4: you follow Jamila, you disagree with this. Like Jamilla displayed

1511
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:45,960
Speaker 4: dictorial qualities which have been proven time and again by

1512
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 4: her abrasive actions on Twitter and the examples above. She

1513
01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 4: elected to police my opinion, and not only that in

1514
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 4: an offensive manner. I'm sure this violates Twitter's recent mission

1515
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 4: to curb cyberbullyon.

1516
01:17:00,040 --> 01:17:01,439
Speaker 5: Sobabi now.

1517
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 4: Disagree with well, I mean, she disagreed with her, and

1518
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:11,360
Speaker 4: apparently that's highly irresponsible. I find it ironic that this

1519
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 4: female and her cohorts complain about having their voices silence

1520
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:19,360
Speaker 4: and often use the term erasure, all while becoming conductors

1521
01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 4: and advocates of this exact same behavior.

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01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:23,640
Speaker 5: This is the epitome of hypocrisy.

1523
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 4: Just because someone does not agree with feminist ideology, which

1524
01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,840
Speaker 4: borders on being a cold slash gang disagreement, does not

1525
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 4: call for public castigation. Others are allowed to express their

1526
01:17:33,479 --> 01:17:37,160
Speaker 4: opinions on feminism. That is not arasire OraSure is when

1527
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 4: those people express their opinions, and because they don't they're

1528
01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 4: general narrative, they are attacked. Unfortunately, Jamilla is an attacker.

1529
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:50,640
Speaker 4: Let's move on. Objective journalism has died, and Jamilla is

1530
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 4: a prime exemptle of this fact.

1531
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 6: Yeah you start off with female, Yeah, you know, and

1532
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 6: people never use female. This is to fucking insult like

1533
01:18:01,160 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 6: you know, dudes, but like female, No, don't don't even

1534
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 6: you know, I you know, and I never really thought

1535
01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 6: of it from that term, but just listening to people,

1536
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,320
Speaker 6: I'll go, yeah, most people when they say female, it

1537
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:13,040
Speaker 6: is never in a positive way.

1538
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 4: There's a placeholder for bitches. It's like I can't say

1539
01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 4: I can't. I can't say bitches at the moment, So

1540
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say females.

1541
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 6: Right, of course I'm a female. You don't have to

1542
01:18:20,439 --> 01:18:21,360
Speaker 6: identify me as that.

1543
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:25,000
Speaker 4: Right, females be doing such and such as always some

1544
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 4: something that would The entire feminist agenda is polarized, emotional,

1545
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 4: and there are no facts in site, only opinions. And

1546
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 4: her article Bill Cozzy probably had to google Damon Wayne's

1547
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,719
Speaker 4: last week, she went out of her way to attack

1548
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,879
Speaker 4: prominent black men. She refers to Damon Wayne's as bizarre

1549
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:45,120
Speaker 4: and sexist. Why because he doesn't align with your views?

1550
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 4: There is no objectivity in her reasoning. Jamilla is a

1551
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:52,680
Speaker 4: feminist extremist and displays zero tolerance for opposition when the

1552
01:18:52,800 --> 01:19:00,679
Speaker 4: opposition is Damon Wayne's. Calling Bill Kazi's victims unrapable bitch, right,

1553
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 4: what the fuck are you talking about? Oh, he just

1554
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 4: disagrees with my point of view. Do you say the

1555
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 4: same thing about racism, sister? Do you like do you

1556
01:19:09,080 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 4: really let people be like if it duos? Listen, all

1557
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:17,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying is black women with natural heir don't love themselves. Well,

1558
01:19:17,120 --> 01:19:20,320
Speaker 4: you're allowed to. I have to tolerate your opinion, you know,

1559
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 4: I just need to. You know, I understand where you're

1560
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 4: coming from. It's just I have to display some tolerance.

1561
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:26,720
Speaker 3: Man.

1562
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:27,720
Speaker 5: Get the fuck out of here.

1563
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 4: Your number one tweet tweet is saying that those niggas,

1564
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,519
Speaker 4: it's bitch nigga repelling those dudes are bitches.

1565
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 5: Basically okay.

1566
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,800
Speaker 4: She also quoted Jamila's review from Twitter said what she said,

1567
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 4: I haven't heard anything about kazi Ye launching the TV network.

1568
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 5: Do he reveal that exclusively the hotel Twitter?

1569
01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 4: And then she says Jamila has abused her privileges, singing

1570
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 4: editor of the historic brand Ebony magazine and taking advantage

1571
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,519
Speaker 4: of the opportunity to assassinate a black person's character. The

1572
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 4: five black sitcoms to fill the Kazi void article, she wrote.

1573
01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 5: Was tasteless and malicious.

1574
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 4: This is an obvious attempt to damaging his legacy and

1575
01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:06,240
Speaker 4: harming his income. When she refers to Bill Kazi's defense

1576
01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 4: that has finally finished in another article, it's almost as

1577
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,280
Speaker 4: if she wants to see another black male behind bars?

1578
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,240
Speaker 4: Aren't we fighting mass incarceration? Whose side are we on?

1579
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,639
Speaker 4: One minute is black lives matter? The next you're jumping

1580
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,719
Speaker 4: on the system side. Whatever happened to a fair trial?

1581
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,839
Speaker 4: What happened in innocent until proven guilty? Why is anyone

1582
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 4: who played who wants a fair trial for Kazi? Dean Hotep?

1583
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 4: It must have make you sick that Kazi cases are

1584
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 4: being dismissed and he's now suing his accusers.

1585
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 6: I have a question, are you sure if a male

1586
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,720
Speaker 6: didn't write this under female name?

1587
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,360
Speaker 3: I'm serious, I don't think if female wrote this. I

1588
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 3: really do.

1589
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 5: Being for you might be right, but being sexist has

1590
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 5: no gendus.

1591
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:51,960
Speaker 4: Now understand that likestand I've seen women who believe this.

1592
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 3: Me too.

1593
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 6: I've seen women that believe this, And I'm not saying

1594
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 6: that it's not a woman, but just the way that

1595
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:03,000
Speaker 6: it's being written, it sounds like it's a man that

1596
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 6: want to come out and say this shit. But he

1597
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,280
Speaker 6: know if he has a picture of him, his ashy

1598
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 6: ass on there, it'd be problems.

1599
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,320
Speaker 3: So he feels like, well, how can I rill up

1600
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:11,839
Speaker 3: the troops.

1601
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 6: I can put a woman on here and say the

1602
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:16,880
Speaker 6: same fuck ass shit, And all of a sudden, I'm

1603
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 6: kind of quote unquote excused from my misogynistic ways for

1604
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:22,080
Speaker 6: the simple fact.

1605
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 3: That I'm posing as the opposition. I'm infiltrating.

1606
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 6: See, you don't understand, my brother, I'm infiltrating the system

1607
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,960
Speaker 6: to pour this woman down. You know what I'm saying.

1608
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 6: Do you get what I'm saying? You know, me as

1609
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:39,240
Speaker 6: a queen, I can attack other queens because I understand

1610
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 6: their perspective. And when they come from my brother. You

1611
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,840
Speaker 6: see all of these they ain't nothing but these females

1612
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:47,599
Speaker 6: out there coming against the black man. I mean, sorry,

1613
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 6: the black female. You know, I'm trying to have my identity.

1614
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 6: That's a man.

1615
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:53,799
Speaker 3: That's a man.

1616
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,439
Speaker 5: Okay. I don't know. If you say they are.

1617
01:21:56,479 --> 01:21:58,920
Speaker 3: Then I might be wrong, but I feel in my

1618
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: my heart that's a man.

1619
01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 4: She got pictures on Twitter and stuff, so I don't know.

1620
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:07,719
Speaker 4: Maybe it's catfishing or something. Is that what you're saying?

1621
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 3: All right? It could be a woman.

1622
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,519
Speaker 6: I mean and if it is, she just got dam

1623
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 6: misogynistic as the males and fuck her too.

1624
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think it's a man.

1625
01:22:17,479 --> 01:22:22,760
Speaker 4: Why she got a pictures while she on Facebook too,

1626
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 4: So I don't know.

1627
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:32,480
Speaker 5: Well, who knows, could be catfishing? I don't know. Uh so, yes.

1628
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 4: She goes on to say, moving on, she and the

1629
01:22:36,479 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 4: feminist Coke gang are hurt from past relationships with men,

1630
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 4: and it's showing they have very evident hate for Black men.

1631
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 4: They need healing before they step into positions of power

1632
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 4: because they are toxic and contagious spread and hate is

1633
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:50,559
Speaker 4: not going to calm the Black struggle if we fan

1634
01:22:50,600 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 4: in the flames of anything. Just because you couldn't work

1635
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 4: things out with your baby's father doesn't mean you have

1636
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 4: to take it out in the world. Oh that's shade.

1637
01:22:57,160 --> 01:22:59,599
Speaker 4: That is one hundred percent a shot at her. That's

1638
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:03,640
Speaker 4: fucked up man. And since we're on the topic, it

1639
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,679
Speaker 4: would be much appreciated. I Jamilla will refrain from using

1640
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 4: her that I am a single mother line for sympathy

1641
01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 4: because it's played out. She is not a single mother.

1642
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 4: She is a mother who happens to be single because

1643
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 4: she chose to be single. Every child has a father.

1644
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 4: Single mother is a title for women who have to

1645
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,080
Speaker 4: raise their who have to raise that child on their own. Dude,

1646
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,160
Speaker 4: the circumstance beyond that control. Jamilla is not that lucky

1647
01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 4: for me. I'll never be invited to one of her

1648
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 4: pity parties. Damn, that's a personal shot. We read your

1649
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 4: I'm single mom, but I'm also the greatest mom all

1650
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,560
Speaker 4: the time. So their article and it reeks of insecurity.

1651
01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:40,840
Speaker 4: We read we I thought it was just one of y'all, one.

1652
01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 3: Of the whole group, the whole hotep group.

1653
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 4: In this spiece ust that of younger serves include not

1654
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:48,519
Speaker 4: having the shortest dress at someone else's kids' birthday party.

1655
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,680
Speaker 4: It's the child's birthday party, and all you can think

1656
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:51,920
Speaker 4: about is how short your dress is.

1657
01:23:51,960 --> 01:24:00,160
Speaker 5: That's narcissistic behavior. It's chronicle heir and toxic. Yeah. I

1658
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:00,880
Speaker 5: here's the thing.

1659
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 4: It sounded like she got rightfully called out on Twitter,

1660
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 4: come on now, and then she ran to her blog

1661
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 4: to complain about Jamila Lemil and thinks that she can

1662
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 4: like take her down via this uh you know this,

1663
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:23,320
Speaker 4: this awful, this awful blog post. But at the end

1664
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:25,400
Speaker 4: of the day, it just makes her come off petty,

1665
01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:27,679
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? It just makes it seem

1666
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 4: like she's she's petty and try to run to another

1667
01:24:29,880 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 4: place to attack this woman. This petty division is embarrassing

1668
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 4: for US Americans of African origins. If we never show

1669
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:41,200
Speaker 4: solidarity support each other regardless of personal prefaces, how can

1670
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,799
Speaker 4: we demand the same for other races.

1671
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 5: But you're not showing solidarity.

1672
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:50,200
Speaker 4: How come the solidarity always begins with someone else having.

1673
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 5: To shut the fuck up and never you?

1674
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:55,880
Speaker 4: Because like solidarity wise, this woman could have not written

1675
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 4: this piece right, she could just not say anything back

1676
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 4: on Twitter, solidarity just is another way to tell somebody

1677
01:25:03,400 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 4: to shut the fuck up. I saw this with the

1678
01:25:05,640 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 4: Elaine Brown thing, what she wrote about how she doesn't

1679
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,040
Speaker 4: agree with or like the documentary on the Black Panthers

1680
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:17,160
Speaker 4: and she wants her part taking out and a black

1681
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:20,080
Speaker 4: man on that I'm friends with on Twitter on Facebook

1682
01:25:20,160 --> 01:25:23,759
Speaker 4: was like, see, she shouldn't have said anything publicly because

1683
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:25,880
Speaker 4: it makes black people look bad. And I said, how

1684
01:25:25,880 --> 01:25:28,600
Speaker 4: come it only makes black people look bad because a

1685
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 4: woman speaking up?

1686
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:31,599
Speaker 5: Right, it's always when a black.

1687
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:34,600
Speaker 4: Woman speaks up that's like, well, you know some of

1688
01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 4: this shit that black men do isn't always good and

1689
01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 4: they can be harmful as well, rather than saying, well,

1690
01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 4: black men should work on that behavior and change it,

1691
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 4: like we don't like black.

1692
01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 5: Men aren't supposed to be rapist.

1693
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:46,920
Speaker 4: Black men don't have to be out here be a

1694
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 4: misogynistic black men don't have to attack black women domestically,

1695
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:55,160
Speaker 4: be domestically violent. Like there's a lot of ways where

1696
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,080
Speaker 4: black men can change their behavior and then all of

1697
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:58,880
Speaker 4: a sudden we could be allies in a lot of

1698
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:01,800
Speaker 4: the same causes that we share, but instead solidarity ends

1699
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:03,640
Speaker 4: up being Black women need to shut the fuck up

1700
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,400
Speaker 4: while black men remain to be abusive because you're speaking

1701
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:10,759
Speaker 4: up about it. Is the real divide in the community

1702
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:12,679
Speaker 4: is the fact that you decided that you're not gonna

1703
01:26:12,680 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 4: take it anymore, You're gonna tell people about it.

1704
01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 5: Well, now you're making us look bad.

1705
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 4: Not the actual act it self, not the abuse itself,

1706
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,439
Speaker 4: that's not making us look bad, but the fact that

1707
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,080
Speaker 4: you're actually bringing it up and letting people know that

1708
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 4: we're not perfect. That's making it look bad. Also, as

1709
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:30,599
Speaker 4: if there's just some mythical, magical moment when black people

1710
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:33,679
Speaker 4: being perfect is gonna change the world, where it's like, oh,

1711
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 4: white people don't know that black people have any problems.

1712
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,920
Speaker 4: They're gonna stop being racist, like, get the fuck out

1713
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:42,879
Speaker 4: of here, man. So it's just completely dismissive of anybody

1714
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 4: else's experience, you know, and a black woman's like, yes,

1715
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,760
Speaker 4: I was raped and I was raped by a black man.

1716
01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 4: Why you bringing it up though? I mean, damn you

1717
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,799
Speaker 4: fucking up the whole race right now. You know, it's amazing.

1718
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:57,720
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I didn't even cut you off.

1719
01:26:57,720 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 5: What are you just saying?

1720
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 6: I think for me it could be very frustrating. And

1721
01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,839
Speaker 6: I take it back. It does sound like it's a female.

1722
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 6: The more more you read on.

1723
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 3: And you're dark or your screens dark.

1724
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:19,840
Speaker 4: Oh okay, let me refresh. Okay, you can keep.

1725
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:20,639
Speaker 3: Going now, okay.

1726
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 6: And I think for me personally, a lot of women

1727
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:29,920
Speaker 6: buy into this misogynistic bullshit, uh some of them by

1728
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:32,880
Speaker 6: even even in it even harder than men, because a

1729
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,040
Speaker 6: lot of women are a product of a lot of

1730
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 6: this misogynists misogynistic behavior. And I think that to me,

1731
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:46,680
Speaker 6: it's very insulting when people feel like they have the

1732
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,320
Speaker 6: right to tell you what it is to be a woman,

1733
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 6: what it is to be a feminist, like they have

1734
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,120
Speaker 6: to define it for you because you're not smart enough

1735
01:27:54,160 --> 01:27:56,200
Speaker 6: or intelligent enough to define it for yourself.

1736
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1737
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 4: Also, I mean, just women can be conditioned by the

1738
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 4: same fuckery that men are conditioned by. I mean, it's

1739
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 4: not like, you know, you go to a church most

1740
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:09,439
Speaker 4: of the time it's filled with women, right, you know,

1741
01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 4: and churches are horrible to women, you know they are,

1742
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,280
Speaker 4: So it's not you know, and they know some of

1743
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 4: those women carry that mentality out with them, some of

1744
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 4: that self hate all that shit, you know. So it's

1745
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:27,720
Speaker 4: like this idea that black women whatever. And honestly, if

1746
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 4: we're being one hundred, I don't even think this woman's

1747
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 4: real problem is that Jamilla is quote unquote feminist or

1748
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:34,760
Speaker 4: speaks up for.

1749
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 5: Black women's issues.

1750
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 4: I really think this woman's problem is that they got

1751
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 4: into it somehow and now she wants to take a

1752
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,320
Speaker 4: personal attack and try to extrapulate all this out to

1753
01:28:44,360 --> 01:28:46,599
Speaker 4: these broader points of view when it's really not.

1754
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 5: It's really just a very petty.

1755
01:28:47,960 --> 01:28:51,799
Speaker 4: Thing because the in the scheme of things, she mostly

1756
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 4: agrees with her probably about a lot of shit. And

1757
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 4: if you look at this woman's Twitter account, she has

1758
01:28:56,439 --> 01:29:00,120
Speaker 4: many posts about black men fucking up. You know how

1759
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 4: you gonna call yourself a king, but you do this,

1760
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:03,599
Speaker 4: that and the other. How you're gonna call yourself a god,

1761
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 4: but you just that and other. So you you don't

1762
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 4: silence yourself and say, well, I don't want to attack

1763
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:10,960
Speaker 4: black men because I'll make it look like black women

1764
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:13,759
Speaker 4: and black men don't get along. No, your critiques are valid,

1765
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,240
Speaker 4: and you get to say whatever the fuck you want.

1766
01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 4: But when it comes to Jamila, she now has to

1767
01:29:17,360 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 4: shut the fuck up because y'all disagree one time or

1768
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:22,160
Speaker 4: when maybe many times.

1769
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,760
Speaker 5: And now you gotta go and write this attack walk.

1770
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 4: Notice how we seldom see other races airing out their

1771
01:29:27,960 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 4: dirty laundry and public or shaming each other for the

1772
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 4: various opinions and decisions.

1773
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:33,679
Speaker 5: Well only if you don't pay attention, right.

1774
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 6: Because a lot of shit is out there, y'all, But

1775
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 6: a lot of shit because it don't directly affect us

1776
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 6: is just.

1777
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 3: Keep it real. We she'ld grate a lot of that bullshit, but.

1778
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:45,840
Speaker 4: Some of it also we don't. People in society just

1779
01:29:45,880 --> 01:29:51,599
Speaker 4: don't attribute to whiteness or asianness or Indian this like

1780
01:29:51,640 --> 01:29:54,959
Speaker 4: we just go that those are just two white people disagreeing.

1781
01:29:55,000 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 4: Those are just two Asian people disagreeing. We don't we

1782
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 4: don't say whether air and dirty laundry. You know, this

1783
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 4: is an everyday thing with black people. However, slew of

1784
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:06,120
Speaker 4: black women attacked me on social media recently because I

1785
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 4: truly feel that we do not need feminism. One retweet

1786
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 4: from Jamilla said, I've been just a feminist Twitter hell, and.

1787
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 3: That's why she wrote this. You that's it. That's why

1788
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:17,880
Speaker 3: she wrote this because somebody reach to it or something.

1789
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,160
Speaker 6: She reached to it, to something she said, and all

1790
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:22,000
Speaker 6: of a sudden, people say, hey, I don't agree with you,

1791
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:24,639
Speaker 6: and so you feel like, well, fuck you, I write

1792
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:25,639
Speaker 6: an article about your ass.

1793
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1794
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 4: It's so funny how she's talking to crying this idea

1795
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 4: of uh feminism and solidarity and shit like that. But

1796
01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:36,720
Speaker 4: at the same time she's wanting people to read this

1797
01:30:36,920 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 4: and you know, come away with some type of feeling

1798
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 4: about Jamilla, you know, like, uh, so much for feminism.

1799
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:43,400
Speaker 2: Huh.

1800
01:30:43,479 --> 01:30:45,280
Speaker 4: Black women are supposed to be protecting each other, but

1801
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,400
Speaker 4: here they are looking for a cat fight.

1802
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:48,960
Speaker 5: Shaking my head, you gave.

1803
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 3: It to them, you sure did, and it has a

1804
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:54,040
Speaker 3: picture is that our picture up there on the video.

1805
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,120
Speaker 5: We do need feminine. I don't know who this person is.

1806
01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:02,800
Speaker 4: It's a clip from YouTube and it's a thirty seven

1807
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:04,680
Speaker 4: minute Yeah, it must be her.

1808
01:31:04,720 --> 01:31:06,320
Speaker 5: I guess. Thirty seven minutes.

1809
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:14,280
Speaker 2: Video wholeness and balanced vibrations to everyone out there, I

1810
01:31:14,560 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 2: want you to make a video about feminism. So that

1811
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 2: is precisely what I'm going to do. It's been on

1812
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 2: my heart to make this video for a very long time,

1813
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:25,320
Speaker 2: but I just had to do more research and you know,

1814
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 2: more self searching, soul searching, all that type of thing,

1815
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 2: just to really it.

1816
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 4: Started seven minutes. I gotta played all but yeah, that

1817
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:35,599
Speaker 4: seems to be her. She says, your insecurities with your

1818
01:31:35,640 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 4: body could be due to your soda addiction.

1819
01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 3: What where did we go to the why are we here?

1820
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,599
Speaker 3: I don't know. We took a left. We took a left.

1821
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 4: Soda, which leads to diabetes and other health risk is

1822
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,360
Speaker 4: a large killer of the black community. You should think

1823
01:31:51,400 --> 01:31:54,160
Speaker 4: about laying off of it, and suggests a healthier diet

1824
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:55,720
Speaker 4: to women that look up to you. That's just a

1825
01:31:55,760 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 4: personal suggestion. This entire thing has been personal thought for her.

1826
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 4: It's like she's like, you're gaping insecurities. Anyone reading this

1827
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,720
Speaker 4: knows you have insecurities about the fact that you and

1828
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,720
Speaker 4: Jamala don't agree. Right and she, by the way, can

1829
01:32:09,040 --> 01:32:11,479
Speaker 4: she took all this from one tweet? Or Jamala said

1830
01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:15,280
Speaker 4: pepsy was better than coke? So she you got you

1831
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:18,799
Speaker 4: soda addicted, your dad's fucked up, you got body issues

1832
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 4: because why cause you tweeted Pepsi's better than coke.

1833
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,800
Speaker 5: Now, I do agree, Pepsi is the goddamn devil and

1834
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 5: coke is better.

1835
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:27,639
Speaker 4: But I'm saying I would not take all that from

1836
01:32:27,680 --> 01:32:31,600
Speaker 4: Julua's tweet. I don't mind the feminist feeble attempts to

1837
01:32:31,720 --> 01:32:34,640
Speaker 4: drag me for my views. It's quite entertaining, but it

1838
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 4: makes us all look dysfunctional on trivial But you could

1839
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 4: just not say anything if you really believe that. Nobody

1840
01:32:41,439 --> 01:32:44,400
Speaker 4: really believes that. Everyone says that when they just want

1841
01:32:44,439 --> 01:32:46,759
Speaker 4: the other people to stop and let them stay ignorant.

1842
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 4: Nobody ever really says you know what I mean? Like,

1843
01:32:50,600 --> 01:32:53,200
Speaker 4: I've never even thought that in the middle of a discussion,

1844
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:55,400
Speaker 4: was like, would you just making.

1845
01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:55,800
Speaker 5: Us look bad?

1846
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:56,200
Speaker 4: Nah?

1847
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:58,640
Speaker 5: If the merit of my fucking argument.

1848
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 4: Is correct, I don't give a fuck that you disagree

1849
01:33:01,200 --> 01:33:04,080
Speaker 4: with me in public or private. If I believe in

1850
01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 4: the marriage of what I'm saying, I hope more people

1851
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,599
Speaker 4: do see it because of you, And I hope more

1852
01:33:07,640 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 4: people see your dumb ass inist in front of everybody.

1853
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 4: You know, this is a universal law. For every woman

1854
01:33:13,920 --> 01:33:16,480
Speaker 4: that agrees with feminism, there will be a woman that disagrees.

1855
01:33:16,560 --> 01:33:19,759
Speaker 4: Mainstream platforms are reserved for women like Jamilla who agree

1856
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:23,080
Speaker 4: with widespread ideologies, and women like myself are cast out

1857
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 4: for having our own minds.

1858
01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:27,759
Speaker 5: That this is not freedom of speech and statement.

1859
01:33:28,240 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 4: Some of us don't need anism or a schism or

1860
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,960
Speaker 4: I see to hang or I guess it to cling to.

1861
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 5: It's part of our identity.

1862
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 4: Not being associated with your gang doesn't mean you have

1863
01:33:39,080 --> 01:33:41,360
Speaker 4: to call us names. Don't we already have enough people

1864
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:45,000
Speaker 4: calling us name And then she took a tweet from

1865
01:33:46,280 --> 01:33:48,720
Speaker 4: Jamilla that said I pushed number seventeen. I pushed a

1866
01:33:48,720 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 4: little girl on the train today and told her I

1867
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:55,080
Speaker 4: push you because you were walking too slow. Now, this

1868
01:33:55,720 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 4: clearly is out of context. There were seventeen tweets.

1869
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,680
Speaker 3: There was sixteen before this one, right, which means she

1870
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:03,800
Speaker 3: probably telling the story.

1871
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 5: It could be a joke.

1872
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 3: Somebody bad little kids. She could have been telling the jokes.

1873
01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,240
Speaker 3: She hey, y'all, I got a joke that I want

1874
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,599
Speaker 3: to share with y'all. She could have, you know, pushed

1875
01:34:12,640 --> 01:34:14,479
Speaker 3: a kid and she knew who knew? Who knows?

1876
01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 5: Oh my god, this is amazing.

1877
01:34:18,240 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 4: We know you're unhappy with your life, as we can

1878
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 4: see from the above tweet and what you admit to

1879
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:24,360
Speaker 4: pushing the people for walking too slow.

1880
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:27,000
Speaker 5: You're a bully, externalizing in eternal pain.

1881
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:30,560
Speaker 4: We asked that you seek help before stepping up to

1882
01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 4: your to the privilege you've been given an Ebony magazine.

1883
01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,960
Speaker 4: You mean the job she earned, okay, and we asked

1884
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 4: that you stepped down to senior editor.

1885
01:34:38,720 --> 01:34:43,320
Speaker 3: What a lot of this is jealousy too, no matter

1886
01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:43,920
Speaker 3: what she said.

1887
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:45,800
Speaker 5: But it's not like Jamilla's right.

1888
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 4: Shit, Like I asked that you stepped down from your

1889
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 4: job at Wendy. She's just like, It's like, you can

1890
01:34:50,520 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 4: do whatever you do with your life. We can just

1891
01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:56,960
Speaker 4: disagree or stand down by curbing your attitude and start

1892
01:34:57,000 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 4: conducting yourself properly as leader in the black community.

1893
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:01,600
Speaker 3: Did she ever claim she was the leader of the

1894
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 3: black community.

1895
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 4: She's a leader in the Black Community Care and everybody

1896
01:35:04,120 --> 01:35:08,000
Speaker 4: knows this. I remember it was Jesse Jackson was head

1897
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,880
Speaker 4: editor as ebony Al Sharpton was working for JET. That's

1898
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:15,040
Speaker 4: a popular misconception. A lot of people don't know he

1899
01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 4: was working as a senior editor for Jet and that's

1900
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 4: how they got.

1901
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:21,160
Speaker 5: It started.

1902
01:35:21,200 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 4: When Martin Luther King was writing for Pride magazine. It's

1903
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:28,880
Speaker 4: sad that all the and then she quoted some random

1904
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 4: nigga that got eleven retweets. Uh, it's sad that all

1905
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 4: the women comes for charge is black b W. We're

1906
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:37,559
Speaker 4: good for attacking our own shaking my head, sin silly.

1907
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 4: The hoteps, you know what, and you know what I.

1908
01:35:49,120 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 3: Leonard asked for. Leonard, You're gonna get it.

1909
01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 6: I want to apologize to all the whole TEP niggas

1910
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,880
Speaker 6: out there that the real hotel men, I'm so sorry.

1911
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:04,720
Speaker 6: I did not mean to say that one of you

1912
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:08,720
Speaker 6: was pretending to be this hotel female. I apologize to

1913
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 6: you brothers out there about that.

1914
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:12,520
Speaker 3: So I apologize.

1915
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see a lot of black men following her

1916
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:18,360
Speaker 4: that I know, and I'm assuming this because she's fine

1917
01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:22,519
Speaker 4: as fuck, because it can't be because of these thoughts. Man, Oh,

1918
01:36:23,920 --> 01:36:28,639
Speaker 4: these are some pretty inflammatory. He takes it just gotta

1919
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,360
Speaker 4: be brothers like she got their natural hand.

1920
01:36:30,439 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 3: She's fine, right, because it's sad.

1921
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:34,920
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, a lot of niggas

1922
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:36,840
Speaker 6: could give a fuck about what women talk about on

1923
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 6: social media. Let's just keep that real. And she was like, yeah,

1924
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:41,639
Speaker 6: she's crazy. She's saying some fucked up shit. It don't

1925
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:43,040
Speaker 6: directly affect me, so.

1926
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 3: I don't care.

1927
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,639
Speaker 6: I'm not one of them niggas, so I don't care

1928
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,640
Speaker 6: when actually is probably very problematic following.

1929
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 5: Her having a decade shit, man, it ain't shit. It

1930
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:56,360
Speaker 5: really is the ultimate like fucking equalizer.

1931
01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:58,360
Speaker 3: You're kind of producted to a lot of shit that

1932
01:36:58,439 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 3: men are trying to accomplish.

1933
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,599
Speaker 5: It don't matter what's coming out of a woman's mouth.

1934
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,639
Speaker 4: At the end of the day, she find niggas gonna

1935
01:37:03,680 --> 01:37:07,600
Speaker 4: hit follow like retweet, she could be she could be

1936
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:08,280
Speaker 4: saying anything.

1937
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, she could say, y'all ain't ship, I hate niggas

1938
01:37:11,160 --> 01:37:12,360
Speaker 3: gonna ah.

1939
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 4: There are dudes following white women that call black men nigga.

1940
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,680
Speaker 4: They got a fat ass, and it's like they just

1941
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 4: don't give a fuck anyway. Uh, it's funny. She's like,

1942
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,160
Speaker 4: I don't belong to any of groups. And then the

1943
01:37:27,240 --> 01:37:30,160
Speaker 4: number things, the number one thing her accounts her being

1944
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 4: a vegan, that.

1945
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 3: Whatever, man, yeah whatever, man.

1946
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,320
Speaker 6: You know i'd be trying to fight her in something

1947
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:45,479
Speaker 6: I been struggling with. People like this is gonna make

1948
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:46,400
Speaker 6: me a funk.

1949
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 3: Around and join your crew. I keep saying and denouncing.

1950
01:37:49,920 --> 01:37:51,360
Speaker 6: That I don't want to be a feminist, but ship

1951
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 6: like this made me mad. Man, maybe gonna say fuck you.

1952
01:37:55,280 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I just gave up. I'm like, I'm

1953
01:37:57,160 --> 01:37:59,680
Speaker 4: a feminist. I'm just taking it back. I don't and

1954
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:01,560
Speaker 4: don't write us about what I'm a woman is.

1955
01:38:02,160 --> 01:38:02,919
Speaker 5: I'm a veganist.

1956
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:04,760
Speaker 3: Give zero.

1957
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,479
Speaker 5: I'm not even trying to debate with y'all over whatever.

1958
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 4: Y'all's personal personal shit is why you have to frame

1959
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 4: it a certain way. I just want us all to

1960
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:16,160
Speaker 4: be equal and all of us to get free. So

1961
01:38:16,920 --> 01:38:20,439
Speaker 4: you know, if part of that is, uh, I embraced

1962
01:38:20,479 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 4: the idea that men and women are equal, and that

1963
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 4: makes me a feminist, then that's just what I gotta be, man,

1964
01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:28,559
Speaker 4: And I don't care if you don't like it. All right,

1965
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 4: So zero to one hundred can oh, that's a hundred

1966
01:38:33,320 --> 01:38:35,479
Speaker 4: that's one hundred. Yep, I gotta give it a hundred

1967
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 4: out of solidarity. For I gotta get out of solidarity.

1968
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:43,800
Speaker 4: I can only give it a fifty because you know,

1969
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,960
Speaker 4: I don't want to pick a side between this awful,

1970
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,160
Speaker 4: awful shit. She said about Ja Miller.

1971
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:50,639
Speaker 3: And coteps always get a hundred.

1972
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 6: Hotel man, female trans you hotel, I don't care what

1973
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:56,200
Speaker 6: your sexuality is.

1974
01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:57,720
Speaker 3: You hotel, you get a hundred.

1975
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,280
Speaker 5: She said, sincerely, the hotels.

1976
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 3: The whole group. The hotels, like that's the thing she

1977
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,920
Speaker 3: signed it with. Apparently, so the whole group.

1978
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 5: Hey man, good luck everybody.

1979
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,240
Speaker 6: I hate that hell, I hate to be in that meeting.

1980
01:39:12,320 --> 01:39:14,280
Speaker 6: Didn't know it wouldn't a damn thing it accomplished.

1981
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:17,640
Speaker 5: Let's just get into this. Uh, let's get into this. Uh,

1982
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 5: this racism though where we're at. Here we go.

1983
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:25,679
Speaker 3: Now that is time for some guests the race.

1984
01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 5: That's right, it's guests the race time.

1985
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:33,280
Speaker 3: Now that it is time for some guests the the race.

1986
01:39:34,120 --> 01:39:36,320
Speaker 3: That's right, this guess the race time.

1987
01:39:38,439 --> 01:39:41,320
Speaker 5: That's right. It's time for gust the race.

1988
01:39:41,560 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 4: The number one game going across all the podcasts, and

1989
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:45,360
Speaker 4: we read to play news from all over the Globe

1990
01:39:45,640 --> 01:39:49,520
Speaker 4: and we asked our contestants the chat room to guests.

1991
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:53,400
Speaker 5: The race send the chat room plays along and they

1992
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,080
Speaker 5: are racist, all right?

1993
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:56,439
Speaker 3: Uh?

1994
01:39:57,240 --> 01:40:02,000
Speaker 4: Number one on the guest the race stories and Oklahoma

1995
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:05,920
Speaker 4: City man who sought babysitting work has been charged in

1996
01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:07,240
Speaker 4: child sex crimes.

1997
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:10,800
Speaker 5: Oh man, they say, don't ship what you eat, but

1998
01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 5: I mean, I mean, come on, you know what a

1999
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:16,000
Speaker 5: big say.

2000
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:20,959
Speaker 4: Never get high on your own supply Number five apparently

2001
01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:25,080
Speaker 4: twenty six year old man who advertised himself on a

2002
01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 4: babysitting website as an indicted in Oklahoma City federal court

2003
01:40:29,240 --> 01:40:32,240
Speaker 4: in connection with child sex crimes. A come on this

2004
01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,920
Speaker 4: site to look for a parent out there willing to

2005
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:40,160
Speaker 4: give a guy a shot at babysittings, said Jason Johanna JOHNA.

2006
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:44,200
Speaker 4: Thust What Johns what a that dude? That just sounds

2007
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:49,799
Speaker 4: MOLESTI John ash Uh he posted on a popular babysitting website.

2008
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 4: Some people think that men can't babysit do the things

2009
01:40:52,920 --> 01:40:55,240
Speaker 4: other men did the children. I'm not one of those men.

2010
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 4: I am compassionate as well as Karen y'all. The fact

2011
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:05,080
Speaker 4: that at his defense is really just like nah, I'm

2012
01:41:05,240 --> 01:41:08,880
Speaker 4: not of molester I would like to be on.

2013
01:41:09,320 --> 01:41:10,360
Speaker 5: To take care of your kids.

2014
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,880
Speaker 3: Anybody that's like, yay, kids, you better watch them.

2015
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 5: And his price was unbeatable camp five dollars an hour.

2016
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,639
Speaker 5: They should have known he was molesting them kids.

2017
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:24,000
Speaker 6: Five dollars an hour, some low ass right If that's

2018
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 6: not minimum ways, I mean even Tennager's charge of fifteen.

2019
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,400
Speaker 3: Cause that was like shit, they kids.

2020
01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:33,559
Speaker 4: He's charging one count of sexual asset. Man, imagine being

2021
01:41:33,560 --> 01:41:36,000
Speaker 4: as a parent that has to explain this shit in court.

2022
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:38,200
Speaker 3: So you.

2023
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 5: Let him take care of your kids because the profile

2024
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 5: said he wouldn't molest them. God yeah, I just thought,

2025
01:41:45,680 --> 01:41:47,760
Speaker 5: you know, why not give him a chance. Why not

2026
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:49,200
Speaker 5: take that chance on my kids?

2027
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:49,439
Speaker 3: You know?

2028
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:50,599
Speaker 6: Uh.

2029
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 4: Jannats of Oklahoma City is charge of one kount of

2030
01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,560
Speaker 4: sexual assoctation of children, one kind of receipt and transportation

2031
01:41:56,640 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 4: of child pornographe, and one count of possession and production

2032
01:41:59,439 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 4: of child for not December eighth, agents with Homeland Security

2033
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 4: Investigations executed.

2034
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 5: Search one on his home.

2035
01:42:05,320 --> 01:42:08,400
Speaker 4: While being interviewed, he admitted to receiving and transmitting sexual

2036
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 4: explicit explicit images of an infant or tyler female. An

2037
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 4: agent reported Jannat admitted to taking the illicted photos with

2038
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,679
Speaker 4: a smartphone with alleged victim is not a child he babysit.

2039
01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:20,479
Speaker 5: Oh that's good.

2040
01:42:21,080 --> 01:42:22,479
Speaker 3: Oh somebody else's kid.

2041
01:42:23,040 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, so not not one that he babysit. Sad though

2042
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 4: not that that means he didn't do it for those,

2043
01:42:29,040 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 4: but he just got caught with a completely different day.

2044
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:35,160
Speaker 3: Didn't catch that one.

2045
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 4: He initialed the photo copies of the images to denote

2046
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,280
Speaker 4: the ones he sent and received. The agent reported that

2047
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 4: he also initialed a chat transcript depicting a conversation where

2048
01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,639
Speaker 4: he allegedly writes about sexually abusing a one year old female.

2049
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 3: Oh see why.

2050
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,560
Speaker 5: His user name was the Lover of the Little.

2051
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 4: It's like he wrote the how to get caught like yeah,

2052
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,280
Speaker 4: like Chris Hansen would be like he would even take

2053
01:43:08,360 --> 01:43:09,280
Speaker 4: time to cover this guy.

2054
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:10,280
Speaker 5: He's like, this is too easy.

2055
01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,519
Speaker 4: The investigation of jenas Better began after that user name

2056
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 4: emerging the separate sex crime investigation of a man living

2057
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 4: in New Zealand. The two men allegedly communicated and traded

2058
01:43:21,080 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 4: the listed images in September. The agent noted in court

2059
01:43:23,520 --> 01:43:25,960
Speaker 4: document that a woman filed a police report in twenty fourteen,

2060
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 4: alleging that he abused her three year old daughter. He

2061
01:43:29,080 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 4: was never charged due to insufficient evidence. Oh, he is

2062
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 4: unemployed and refused to discuss his employment history, which were

2063
01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 4: references he was working as an assistant teacher at a

2064
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:40,880
Speaker 4: daycare center.

2065
01:43:41,000 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 6: Oh god, Oh, I couldn't even imagine the amount of children.

2066
01:43:46,120 --> 01:43:48,240
Speaker 6: And when children are that age, they can't remember, they

2067
01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:49,320
Speaker 6: can't communicate, they can.

2068
01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:51,880
Speaker 3: Launch like that's a scary part. They can't tell people

2069
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 3: that there's something wrong.

2070
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:57,040
Speaker 4: There's also information that Jenas has been a babysitter and

2071
01:43:57,520 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 4: a mall Christmas photography work.

2072
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:05,240
Speaker 5: Damn, it's like he did the child predator fucking resume.

2073
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 3: He'd be like, if that's charge of now, I'll signing

2074
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:08,640
Speaker 3: he up.

2075
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,320
Speaker 4: Like if your resume said we are high, if you

2076
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 4: if your job said we have an opening for a

2077
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 4: child predator, your motherfucking resume is perfect.

2078
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2079
01:44:17,640 --> 01:44:19,679
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I used to. I used to be saying,

2080
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:21,920
Speaker 4: and let him sit on my lap. Oh damn, that's wow.

2081
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:24,400
Speaker 4: I don't you know what I'm saying. I think you're

2082
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 4: overqualified for the job.

2083
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:27,720
Speaker 3: The only thing he had that's was the ice cream truck, right,

2084
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 3: he might have did that too.

2085
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 4: We used to sitting on his resume, I operated an

2086
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:35,400
Speaker 4: ice cream truck from nineteen ninety five to two thousand

2087
01:44:35,439 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 4: and three.

2088
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:39,639
Speaker 5: Two thousand and four, I graduated to a windowless van.

2089
01:44:40,040 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 5: Uh so. I also used to be the candy man

2090
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 5: around my fucking right. The kids even had a candy man. Eymore,

2091
01:44:46,479 --> 01:44:47,439
Speaker 5: I felt like that went away.

2092
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:49,360
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a good question. I don't know.

2093
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:50,880
Speaker 5: I feel like candy man used to be.

2094
01:44:51,160 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 3: I had a candle light, neighborhood candy.

2095
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 4: We used to have a candy lady too, But now

2096
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:59,719
Speaker 4: I feel like that occupation is it's gone right for rifle.

2097
01:45:01,439 --> 01:45:03,600
Speaker 3: You never Yeah, she was too busy trying to say that.

2098
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:04,320
Speaker 3: God damn kiddy.

2099
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:07,840
Speaker 4: I'm also pretty sure the candy lady's house was not

2100
01:45:08,280 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 4: registered as a business because I never saw a sign.

2101
01:45:10,720 --> 01:45:13,920
Speaker 4: Oh no, no in that old black lady's have buying candy.

2102
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 4: She could have been molested all the kids. Nobody would

2103
01:45:18,880 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 4: have known.

2104
01:45:19,240 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 3: Nobody would know. You know, Sugar, we stupid kids. Stupid

2105
01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 3: shot Sugar, bring all the kids.

2106
01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:23,040
Speaker 4: I know.

2107
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:24,559
Speaker 3: I like sugar Daddy.

2108
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,479
Speaker 4: Okay, let me put my finger up. But okay, as

2109
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:29,200
Speaker 4: long as I get this, Sugar Daddy, I'm stupid.

2110
01:45:29,240 --> 01:45:29,680
Speaker 3: I'm a kid.

2111
01:45:30,520 --> 01:45:33,120
Speaker 4: You don't know, no bad And I don't even know

2112
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:36,479
Speaker 4: the way to the candy lady store right now, because

2113
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 4: you had to.

2114
01:45:37,120 --> 01:45:37,719
Speaker 5: Take a path.

2115
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember that.

2116
01:45:39,439 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 4: Is that everybody's I guess everybody's candilad You gotta take

2117
01:45:42,479 --> 01:45:43,400
Speaker 4: a path to their house.

2118
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:45,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, because you normally come in through the back. You know,

2119
01:45:45,680 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 6: kids would come around the front. And that may might

2120
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:50,240
Speaker 6: have been the reason why I was sudden. You know,

2121
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:52,400
Speaker 6: every day twenty five thirty kids show up.

2122
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:53,960
Speaker 3: That's gonna raise flags. You know what.

2123
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 5: I might have been molested about the candle lady. I

2124
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,960
Speaker 5: don't remember. I don't remember either, is my sugar high?

2125
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:01,160
Speaker 5: Anything could have happened to me?

2126
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:04,680
Speaker 4: Man, right, all these people walking around, all of us

2127
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 4: walking around just fingering the hole.

2128
01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 3: I think we knowing else we bought it went to

2129
01:46:09,160 --> 01:46:10,559
Speaker 3: the same house because of.

2130
01:46:10,600 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 4: Things I lived in this one. I used to live

2131
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:16,080
Speaker 4: in roseland so it was the project. So this used

2132
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,040
Speaker 4: to have to go behind the basketball court. Take this

2133
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:23,160
Speaker 4: fucking path in the woods that eventually after you passed red.

2134
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:24,240
Speaker 5: Riding hood leads to this.

2135
01:46:24,320 --> 01:46:33,280
Speaker 4: Womans three Bears. But I think you think, yeah three Bears,

2136
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:38,880
Speaker 4: Goldilocks was there? Yeah, I ask some pordge on the way,

2137
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 4: and then it was just right right. And then you

2138
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:45,560
Speaker 4: take a dollar and seventeen cents of loose change and

2139
01:46:45,720 --> 01:46:50,880
Speaker 4: buy a sugar Daddy blow pop ring and uh, one

2140
01:46:50,920 --> 01:46:53,599
Speaker 4: of those lolly pots that turns your tongue purple.

2141
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, and she finds Agenda dos.

2142
01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,400
Speaker 3: And then on your way you fucking around to come

2143
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 3: with a five dollar bill, you would you can get

2144
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:02,120
Speaker 3: the jumbo size M and m's.

2145
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:03,920
Speaker 5: I'm convinced all of that was legal.

2146
01:47:04,600 --> 01:47:06,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, because I'm an adult now, so I can

2147
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:10,080
Speaker 6: guarantee you they went to Sam's and BJ's one of

2148
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 6: them bookstores and bought that ship and pals and turn

2149
01:47:13,520 --> 01:47:15,600
Speaker 6: around itself. Solda to the kids for a fraction of

2150
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 6: the price and got all the money back.

2151
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2152
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 5: We probably all been fucked by that candy lady.

2153
01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,360
Speaker 3: It didn't even know. I'm sorry, I was, I was

2154
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 3: Candy had passed out. I didn't know.

2155
01:47:23,160 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 5: Man, That's probably why I can't remember the way back.

2156
01:47:25,200 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 3: Just from my memory. Her house is probably made out

2157
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,599
Speaker 3: of candy. I don't I don't remember one day.

2158
01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 4: I'll just be in therapy when I'm fifty five years old,

2159
01:47:32,080 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 4: and it's gonna come out.

2160
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 5: I just started crying for no reason, right, what happened?

2161
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:38,719
Speaker 5: Fucking Candy Lady? Man? Oh, we know she got everybody,

2162
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 5: She got everything.

2163
01:47:39,800 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 3: She said that baby don't know when she's dead and.

2164
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:43,799
Speaker 5: Gone, she can't hurt you anymore.

2165
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:48,080
Speaker 4: She's probably a witch, probably living right now, live off

2166
01:47:48,120 --> 01:47:51,240
Speaker 4: the essence of all them kids, ply the same and

2167
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:55,400
Speaker 4: them soul she took right, Probably don't even eat a candle.

2168
01:47:55,479 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 5: I'm diabetic. I just here for the kids and something.

2169
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Speaker 6: I was like, this lady has been staying at this

2170
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,280
Speaker 6: same neighborhood for one hundred and two years?

2171
01:48:02,439 --> 01:48:04,640
Speaker 5: What is her life like?

2172
01:48:04,880 --> 01:48:07,360
Speaker 4: Like she taking Like she goes to the bank with

2173
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:12,480
Speaker 4: a deposit of three thousand dollars in pennies and and coins.

2174
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:15,360
Speaker 5: And ship and just like you know, do they know

2175
01:48:15,680 --> 01:48:17,320
Speaker 5: the Candy Lady like gun rappers?

2176
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:18,080
Speaker 3: Right?

2177
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:22,240
Speaker 5: Like it's her life? Just is her life just full

2178
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 5: of fucking.

2179
01:48:23,040 --> 01:48:27,680
Speaker 4: Like rolling up manually those quarters in those sleeves, Like

2180
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:28,599
Speaker 4: is that her life?

2181
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 3: I bet you, I bet you. She got a ring

2182
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 3: pop on all her fingers.

2183
01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:35,720
Speaker 5: I know she be tearing that motherfucking I'm trying to

2184
01:48:35,760 --> 01:48:36,240
Speaker 5: kiss the ring.

2185
01:48:36,320 --> 01:48:40,880
Speaker 4: Who knows, she probably be tearing that motherfucking that coin

2186
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:43,920
Speaker 4: machine at the you can changing.

2187
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 5: She probably be tearing that motherfucker up.

2188
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:47,840
Speaker 3: I bet she got all her teeth because she don't

2189
01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:48,639
Speaker 3: need that damn candy.

2190
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 8: No, she ain't.

2191
01:48:49,840 --> 01:48:52,120
Speaker 4: She ain't it for the kids and the and the money.

2192
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 4: It was a capital transaction, the money. Yeah, she probably

2193
01:48:57,479 --> 01:48:59,759
Speaker 4: be clogging it, clogging a little mother fucking machine.

2194
01:48:59,800 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 6: Up.

2195
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:02,559
Speaker 5: Y'all got my homework in there, all kinds of shit

2196
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 5: pencils and racers. I don't even know how we got

2197
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:06,040
Speaker 5: on this.

2198
01:49:07,439 --> 01:49:09,880
Speaker 3: They'll be like, come every time, we can't have the machine.

2199
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:12,280
Speaker 3: It's full of number two pencils. I don't know. I

2200
01:49:12,280 --> 01:49:13,960
Speaker 3: don't know what the fuck they're coming from. Dogs.

2201
01:49:14,280 --> 01:49:16,719
Speaker 5: I got so many erasers and ship in her fucking

2202
01:49:17,160 --> 01:49:17,759
Speaker 5: bank account.

2203
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 3: She got the little ones that you put on the back,

2204
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 3: and she got the big ones in like a damn square.

2205
01:49:22,240 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 5: Right, what do you do for a living?

2206
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about it. I know is

2207
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,000
Speaker 4: I need to be back home before school gets out.

2208
01:49:28,120 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 4: Now we're done this banking transaction, we cash it.

2209
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:34,280
Speaker 6: They were like, oh man, we don't have two thousand

2210
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 6: dollars on hand, Well you give me half nine.

2211
01:49:38,640 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 3: Come back later.

2212
01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:43,679
Speaker 4: Candlelady only gotta be fucking at work for fifteen minutes

2213
01:49:43,720 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 4: a day, does that?

2214
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,759
Speaker 5: It's just when y'all niggas get out of school.

2215
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 6: She there with candy and mouths every bus stop your

2216
01:49:50,680 --> 01:49:53,599
Speaker 6: mama turme out back. You keep parents of your kids

2217
01:49:53,640 --> 01:49:55,840
Speaker 6: showing a blade with some candy. Check to be sure,

2218
01:49:55,920 --> 01:49:57,760
Speaker 6: asks them how they been to the cadilator house. They

2219
01:49:57,840 --> 01:49:59,240
Speaker 6: have forbidden them to go again.

2220
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:01,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I guarantee they molesting it.

2221
01:50:01,200 --> 01:50:02,280
Speaker 3: Might not come back next time.

2222
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:03,240
Speaker 5: They gotta be.

2223
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:05,479
Speaker 4: Molesting kids because if I was ever, I just wasn't

2224
01:50:05,560 --> 01:50:08,120
Speaker 4: a smart enough kid. But if I didn't know anything

2225
01:50:08,160 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 4: about sex and shit, because I was a nerd. But

2226
01:50:10,240 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 4: I guarantee you if I would have been like fucking

2227
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 4: a little sexually active, or just if I had Internet

2228
01:50:15,240 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 4: pouring on my phone, I would have been trying to

2229
01:50:17,439 --> 01:50:20,639
Speaker 4: make deals like a crackhead, like come on baby too now, ladies,

2230
01:50:20,680 --> 01:50:24,600
Speaker 4: I sock your titties please. I sucked the inherititties.

2231
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:25,439
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck.

2232
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 4: Just let me get a pack of nerds. Come on, baby,

2233
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 4: I'm good for it. I'll be back tomorrow with my

2234
01:50:33,400 --> 01:50:33,840
Speaker 4: lunch money.

2235
01:50:33,880 --> 01:50:34,760
Speaker 5: I promise.

2236
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,479
Speaker 3: I'd be like why you losing all his weight? Eye

2237
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 3: put it ain't but like I know, I gave you

2238
01:50:40,439 --> 01:50:41,240
Speaker 3: some lunch money.

2239
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 4: Nah, that's why. No, it'll be why you gaining all

2240
01:50:43,479 --> 01:50:46,920
Speaker 4: that way? This man was sugar, my little you're getting fast.

2241
01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,839
Speaker 4: I've been giving you nothing but a dollar and fucking

2242
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 4: a dollar and then you on fucking free lunch.

2243
01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,799
Speaker 5: I don't know what's wrong eating. It came down to school.

2244
01:50:57,960 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 5: Be walking with hand. Come on, Jeanine, me and Jeanine.

2245
01:51:04,720 --> 01:51:07,519
Speaker 6: Ah, Aaron, you better be careful. My kids is not

2246
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:10,160
Speaker 6: going to visit you. He said he was the candy man.

2247
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2248
01:51:11,439 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 4: See, I don't even think that's an occupation a man

2249
01:51:14,040 --> 01:51:17,840
Speaker 4: can have. In twenty sixteen, Chris Hansen showing up at

2250
01:51:17,920 --> 01:51:20,280
Speaker 4: your house just being ringing the dope bell.

2251
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:23,720
Speaker 5: I'm not here for the candy. Uh so, yeah, he

2252
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:24,520
Speaker 5: is unemployed.

2253
01:51:24,560 --> 01:51:28,519
Speaker 4: If you discussed employment history, Uh, there's additional information that

2254
01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:30,799
Speaker 4: Janash has been a babysitter and a mall.

2255
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 5: Christmas photo photography worker.

2256
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 4: Guess the rights of mister Jason jannast Okay, see what

2257
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 4: they say in the chat room.

2258
01:51:42,280 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 5: All right, let's see man that's cheese eating.

2259
01:51:46,200 --> 01:51:50,360
Speaker 4: Bro tap Subway Man's white sweete enthusiasts white. He also

2260
01:51:50,439 --> 01:51:53,280
Speaker 4: had outdated for fight out of football on killpin white

2261
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:55,960
Speaker 4: white because black men don't even take care of their

2262
01:51:56,040 --> 01:51:58,360
Speaker 4: own kids. Let on somebody else's kid, Cande, they ain't

2263
01:51:58,360 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 4: take care of your kids?

2264
01:51:59,400 --> 01:51:59,800
Speaker 5: How are do?

2265
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, no no, I forgot you know how

2266
01:52:04,960 --> 01:52:06,799
Speaker 4: a candle lady, we're talking about a babysitter.

2267
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,760
Speaker 5: I made that part up. I forgot what.

2268
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:11,200
Speaker 4: I don't know, like when I said I don't know

2269
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 4: how we got on that tangent, I really don't remember

2270
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:15,840
Speaker 4: white because black men don't take.

2271
01:52:15,720 --> 01:52:17,880
Speaker 3: Care talking about the different jobs did a person have.

2272
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:22,040
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, hired dude bro white column Columbus in those

2273
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 4: kids chat.

2274
01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:27,320
Speaker 5: Chat? Is such a white name? Are there any black chats?

2275
01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 3: Uh?

2276
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 5: Let's see, that's the egot for child predators.

2277
01:52:33,640 --> 01:52:37,640
Speaker 4: I was I was transparent and invincible, invisible, invincible to

2278
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:41,280
Speaker 4: love the children. White mins used to open our window

2279
01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:43,160
Speaker 4: like a try to okay, now, if you were talking

2280
01:52:43,160 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 4: about that molester with the diverse resume white, uh, and

2281
01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:51,200
Speaker 4: then everybody start talking about the candlelaated all right, the

2282
01:52:51,320 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 4: correct answer is feel like everybody got it white. And

2283
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:05,719
Speaker 4: here is a picture of him with his child snatching

2284
01:53:05,800 --> 01:53:09,679
Speaker 4: ass that dude, take care of your kids.

2285
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 5: I love to take care of those kids. I love

2286
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:15,920
Speaker 5: to get my hands on your children. Now, I'm good, really,

2287
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 5: I think think I'm all right.

2288
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:18,880
Speaker 3: I'm gonna let you.

2289
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:23,200
Speaker 5: I'm gonna chill on that. No man, I do it

2290
01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:24,160
Speaker 5: for five dollars.

2291
01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:29,120
Speaker 4: Five dollars. Can't past of a deal. Children, children and

2292
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:30,439
Speaker 4: children in the back just crying.

2293
01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:32,559
Speaker 3: I don't know what's happening, Mommy.

2294
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:35,200
Speaker 4: I don't like when he take care of us for

2295
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 4: five hour though, Mama gotta have life. To have life too,

2296
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:44,280
Speaker 4: I can afford to go see Deadpool, I know, without you,

2297
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:45,200
Speaker 4: without y'all.

2298
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:48,519
Speaker 5: All right, let's go to the bonus round of guess

2299
01:53:48,600 --> 01:54:01,640
Speaker 5: the race double up on the race well up ponts

2300
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:02,920
Speaker 5: and the race.

2301
01:54:03,520 --> 01:54:05,880
Speaker 4: That's right, Bonus gess the race where everything's worth double

2302
01:54:05,920 --> 01:54:08,120
Speaker 4: the points, double the race sism. So far, everybody's one

2303
01:54:08,240 --> 01:54:10,439
Speaker 4: for one. But can they continue to keep up the

2304
01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:11,799
Speaker 4: streak as the pressure builds?

2305
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 5: We shall see.

2306
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:16,640
Speaker 4: And the bonus trying to guess the races brought to

2307
01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,800
Speaker 4: you by Bebell. Get clear, smooth skin with Bebel. Who

2308
01:54:19,880 --> 01:54:22,479
Speaker 4: doesn't want that? Bebell is the first and only shaving

2309
01:54:22,520 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 4: system designed for creative for men with coarse, curly hair.

2310
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,599
Speaker 5: We were actually in the La Times.

2311
01:54:31,600 --> 01:54:34,240
Speaker 4: That's right, while we in the La Times because we

2312
01:54:34,360 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 4: were mentioned when Dexter was interviewing Tristan Walker, creator of

2313
01:54:41,960 --> 01:54:45,400
Speaker 4: Bebel and he you know, owner of the company and shit.

2314
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,680
Speaker 5: He was being interviewed and he mentioned.

2315
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,040
Speaker 4: That podcast was a great way to get the word

2316
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:55,720
Speaker 4: out black podcast. And I appreciate that man so much. Man,

2317
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 4: I appreciate him mentioning it, and I appreciate that so

2318
01:54:58,600 --> 01:55:02,600
Speaker 4: many people have got gott Bebel through this podcast. You know,

2319
01:55:03,200 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 4: you guys, I think are an area that often overlooked

2320
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,520
Speaker 4: as fans. The loyalty you guys have, the love y'all

2321
01:55:10,600 --> 01:55:14,080
Speaker 4: have for us, the fact that you know, we have

2322
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:16,280
Speaker 4: built this thing from the ground up, the fact that

2323
01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:20,520
Speaker 4: we have credibility with the audience gets overlooked by many spaces.

2324
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:24,480
Speaker 4: People that you know are starting to realize, Hey, I

2325
01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,200
Speaker 4: can make money advertising via of these podcasts.

2326
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,280
Speaker 6: You know, a lot of times depends on the cause

2327
01:55:30,280 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 6: of culture, of fraction, the price of the Dexter from

2328
01:55:32,520 --> 01:55:34,920
Speaker 6: Shadow Dog, I periodically see him tweet that he be

2329
01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:36,960
Speaker 6: trying to tell other people when they have stuff to

2330
01:55:37,080 --> 01:55:39,200
Speaker 6: push and promote. In his genre that a lot of

2331
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:42,160
Speaker 6: times they kind of gloss over podcasting. But he says

2332
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 6: that a lot of times he gets more sells from

2333
01:55:44,120 --> 01:55:46,560
Speaker 6: us than he did from like the radio and putting

2334
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:47,200
Speaker 6: the billboards.

2335
01:55:47,720 --> 01:55:52,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, but the point is Bebel there is supporting this area.

2336
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 4: And because you guys go out and purchase these things

2337
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:58,920
Speaker 4: and use called TVGWT, hey get your percentage off of

2338
01:55:59,040 --> 01:56:02,600
Speaker 4: the first month and you get you know, that's a

2339
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 4: subscription going you get twenty percent off at Getbebbele dot

2340
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:08,120
Speaker 4: com g E T b e v e l dot com.

2341
01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,120
Speaker 4: That's g E t B e v e l dot

2342
01:56:10,200 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 4: com co TV g w T. Because you do that,

2343
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:14,160
Speaker 4: they continue to support us.

2344
01:56:14,240 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 6: Man.

2345
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:18,440
Speaker 4: I hope y'all continue to uh to to buy Bebel

2346
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 4: and support them, man, because Christian's a good dude and

2347
01:56:22,600 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 4: uh because uh, you know, he's good to us that

2348
01:56:26,440 --> 01:56:26,840
Speaker 4: and so.

2349
01:56:26,920 --> 01:56:29,360
Speaker 6: Many people that have had Bebel has told us that

2350
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:31,800
Speaker 6: they have loved it. I think your daddy Gatzi he

2351
01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:34,880
Speaker 6: raved about and the other people justin had it and

2352
01:56:35,040 --> 01:56:35,840
Speaker 6: he raised about it.

2353
01:56:35,960 --> 01:56:36,840
Speaker 3: So y'all do it.

2354
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:37,440
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2355
01:56:37,440 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 4: I literally have heard no bad experiences. I've heard people

2356
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 4: I think i've so far. I heard one person that

2357
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:48,080
Speaker 4: on our Facebook group was like, oh I stopped using

2358
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,280
Speaker 4: it or something, but even they said it was a

2359
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:53,760
Speaker 4: good experience. So I've I've had the you know why,

2360
01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:54,520
Speaker 4: y'all lie to me.

2361
01:56:54,920 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 5: Look at my face? Look at my face, you.

2362
01:56:57,200 --> 01:57:00,080
Speaker 4: Know, like like that's what If it didn't work, it

2363
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 4: would have hit us up. It's been a year now,

2364
01:57:02,720 --> 01:57:05,040
Speaker 4: So get your life. Get your life straight, y'all, and

2365
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,320
Speaker 4: you're gonna get in your life straight. A former waffle

2366
01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,840
Speaker 4: house waitress for for Smith County has been arrested for

2367
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 4: spiking hope her workers drink with meth and fetamine, an

2368
01:57:15,560 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 4: act that authority said left a thirty seven year old

2369
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:22,600
Speaker 4: man comatose. Wow mm hmmm, the worst kind of toast

2370
01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 4: comatos at one point. At one point, Dawson County Shriff's

2371
01:57:28,160 --> 01:57:31,560
Speaker 4: Office Captain Tony Wooten said the coworker required a feeding

2372
01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:38,800
Speaker 4: tube and a ventilator. Shit, yep, they soon, so authority

2373
01:57:38,880 --> 01:57:40,840
Speaker 4: is called to We'll call it to the waffle house

2374
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:45,240
Speaker 4: about midnight the Cemmer twenty third, when nothing good happened

2375
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:45,960
Speaker 4: to the White House at the.

2376
01:57:45,960 --> 01:57:49,160
Speaker 5: Midnight, learning that a man was having a medical emergency.

2377
01:57:49,240 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 4: They soon learned a video existed that showed a woman

2378
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:55,040
Speaker 4: take the man's drink toward the bathroom when he went outside.

2379
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:58,040
Speaker 5: The video, which is evidence, is being held by police.

2380
01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,560
Speaker 4: The video for this show her taking the cup towards

2381
01:58:00,560 --> 01:58:02,280
Speaker 4: the bathroom area and then coming back with the cup

2382
01:58:02,320 --> 01:58:04,800
Speaker 4: while he was outside. The man, who was taking at

2383
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:07,480
Speaker 4: a local hospital serious condition, is still under medical care.

2384
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, what would have happened if he wouldn't have

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Speaker 5: figured out that? That's what happened?

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Speaker 4: He had just been like, the coffee is so good here,

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Speaker 4: or I need some more of that coffee. I was like,

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Speaker 4: dick gon coffee girl, you.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't have got that.

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Speaker 6: I got to floors right and wash out the windows.

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Speaker 6: When he come told so he would.

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Speaker 4: Own You know, I'm saying, if he wouldn't have got

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Speaker 4: coma TODs, what would have happened? He would addicted thinking

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01:58:27,960 --> 01:58:30,640
Speaker 4: that coffee was the greatest fucking shit ever ever. The

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01:58:30,720 --> 01:58:34,080
Speaker 4: woman in the video was immediately terminated. Wilefleur spokesman, Oh,

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Speaker 4: they have one of those. Pat Warner told that Atlanta

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01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:42,520
Speaker 4: Journal Constitution son Serria don Evans, forty three, of coming

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01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:47,440
Speaker 4: was arrested on charges of possession of the controlled substance

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Speaker 4: with intend to distribute and aggravated battery. It is not

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01:58:50,720 --> 01:58:53,520
Speaker 4: clear why she allegedly spiked her coworkers drink. She is

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01:58:53,640 --> 01:58:58,240
Speaker 4: not cooperating with the investigators. You don't say, really, son,

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01:58:58,360 --> 01:59:00,520
Speaker 4: Serrea don Evans, you don't. I want to work with

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01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:04,600
Speaker 4: the investigators. What I want to say waffle House was

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01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:08,320
Speaker 4: cooperating with the authorities and the investigation. We're very concerned

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01:59:08,360 --> 01:59:10,960
Speaker 4: about this matter, and I'm working with the local authorities

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01:59:11,000 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 4: to assist an investigation. Our main focus is on our

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01:59:13,280 --> 01:59:15,480
Speaker 4: associate who was injured and his family as they go

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01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:18,960
Speaker 4: through this trying time. Damn, I know after that shit,

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01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:25,040
Speaker 4: he was scattered some mothers covered dice and chunks. Uh

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01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:29,879
Speaker 4: the chat room. Guess the race of missus Sanseria don Evans.

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Speaker 4: Let's see what they say, Langston Atticus, black white woman

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01:59:36,280 --> 01:59:39,160
Speaker 4: who thought waffle House food was enough poison to kill

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01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:45,600
Speaker 4: a man. One who would write she hotel letter about

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01:59:45,680 --> 01:59:48,760
Speaker 4: Jamila from Ebany and have it blamed on by a

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01:59:48,840 --> 01:59:54,600
Speaker 4: black man, white white Damn mom, what does that mean?

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01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:58,880
Speaker 5: Darn mom? I don't know what that means. One of

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01:59:59,040 --> 01:59:59,720
Speaker 5: James Evans.

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Speaker 3: Some of thema is.

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Speaker 4: Uh oh is actually a white woman and a couple

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Speaker 4: of y'all got it right, and I just want you

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02:00:32,360 --> 02:00:35,200
Speaker 4: to know all the people that got it wrong have

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Speaker 4: my respect, because there's no fucking way anybody that hadn't

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02:00:41,720 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 4: already seen the article thoughts Sonzaia don Evans was a

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Speaker 4: white woman. And if they tell you that anything different

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Speaker 4: than motherfucking lie, that is that is a black ass name.

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02:00:54,600 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 3: Dude, is a black gass name. So Cerrea nigga.

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Speaker 4: What, oh my god, I thought she was black looking

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02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:03,760
Speaker 4: at the picture, I said, they got the wrong picture

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02:01:04,200 --> 02:01:07,880
Speaker 4: for this poor woman, this poor waffle house worker. But yep,

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Speaker 4: only in the house with a person named Sanzaria be white.

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Speaker 4: That's the see waffe House actually kind of bringing people together.

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Speaker 5: Last thing. Mm hmmm, uh oh ship. That was the

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02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:44,920
Speaker 5: one time I didn't mean there.

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Speaker 3: I was like, hey, fuck you left us out the

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Speaker 3: shows yesterday.

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Speaker 5: They tried to get it.

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02:01:51,160 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 3: They was like, we're gonna get our debut.

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Speaker 5: Get out of here. Recession depression.

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02:01:55,960 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 3: Kirk Kurt was like, yeah, I might have been on

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02:01:57,480 --> 02:01:59,080
Speaker 3: that other song, but this is what I really made

2441
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Speaker 3: the same.

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Speaker 5: The deployment leave right right now.

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Speaker 4: Uh. A Japanese actor was killed by a prop samurai

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02:02:05,040 --> 02:02:10,200
Speaker 4: saw it. A Japanese actor was killed by a prop

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02:02:10,240 --> 02:02:13,520
Speaker 4: samurai sword while in rehearsal for a play. No such

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02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 4: thing as a prop sword, tried to tell y'all. The

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Speaker 4: late actor, named Diago Kashino, was thirty three years old

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Speaker 4: at the time of his death.

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Speaker 5: Kausehino was reportedly in rehearsal.

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Speaker 4: For Jada gk Wait jak wait Oh, G daiyek Play

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02:02:30,480 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 4: of Course G da yanke Wow What Was I Thinking?

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Speaker 4: Which is a genre of theater, film, and television in

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Speaker 4: Japan that produce focuses on sword swinging and the time

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Speaker 4: and the life of the samurai culture. While all the

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Speaker 4: actors are using prop swords, quite a bit of fight

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Speaker 4: and sword play choreography going to these productions. Prop swords

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Speaker 4: can still typically do some damage, and it's clear that

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Speaker 4: the properties u utilized in Diego Kashino's production were more

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Speaker 4: than capable of.

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Speaker 5: Cause of body harm.

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Speaker 4: What they all are CNN is showing that a Diago

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Speaker 4: Casino's fellow cast members reportedly heard the late actors grown

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Speaker 4: of pain before finding him impaled by a prop summer

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Speaker 4: I saw in the stomach. While the company members found

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Speaker 4: Casino hunched over and pain Apparently, none of the castor.

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Speaker 5: Crew saw the incident that caused the injury. Oo, somebody

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Speaker 5: killed him.

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Speaker 4: He was rushed to a hospital where he was found

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02:03:21,080 --> 02:03:23,600
Speaker 4: hunched after he was found hunched over, but unfortunately he

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Speaker 4: was succumbed to his injury and passed away while in

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Speaker 4: the medical facility.

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Speaker 5: Because there was no witness to the injury. Filplayers not

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Speaker 5: being ruled out.

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Speaker 4: Local law enforcement will be doing an investigation as the

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Speaker 4: possible criminal aspect of the actors trus tragedy death.

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Speaker 5: It is intended.

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Speaker 4: It is indeed strange that nobody from the castor crew

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Speaker 4: saw the incident, so there's a possibility from an outside

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Speaker 4: person may have infiltrated the rehearsal and attacked Casino, or

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Speaker 4: even a company.

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02:03:48,720 --> 02:03:53,800
Speaker 5: Member could be responsible. Some tenhu shit diago.

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Speaker 4: Casino's tragic death marks the second time in recent memory

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02:03:57,400 --> 02:04:00,760
Speaker 4: that an actor was killed while doing a lot theater production.

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02:04:00,840 --> 02:04:03,520
Speaker 4: An Italian actor named Raphael Schumacher was a victim of

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02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:06,760
Speaker 4: a tragic accident earlier this month in the performance of

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02:04:06,800 --> 02:04:11,840
Speaker 4: an experimental theater piece in Pisa. Schumacher's character was to

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Speaker 4: be hanged, and he well, he was.

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Speaker 5: He was a method actor.

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Speaker 4: Now, all right, guys, we will talk to you tomorrow.

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02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:25,560
Speaker 4: Appreciate y'all and hope to see you there. Also tomorrow,

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Speaker 4: I'll be doing a nerd off with Chris at noon

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02:04:30,120 --> 02:04:33,720
Speaker 4: and I think it won't be live, but I'm supposed

2493
02:04:33,720 --> 02:04:37,520
Speaker 4: to be doing my Jessica Jones off season review with

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02:04:38,160 --> 02:04:42,800
Speaker 4: Leslie from the Interracial John podcast. So more premium stuff

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02:04:42,800 --> 02:04:46,440
Speaker 4: coming for everybody, all right, until tomorrow, I love you,

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Speaker 4: damn Daniel,