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Speaker 2: Look at us now, Tim to Tim, this is our life,

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Speaker 1: Bring to this show.

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Fridays are for our We're back at it with

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Speaker 2: a bang, the best damn combat sports show period. It

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Speaker 2: is Friday, March eleventh, twenty and twenty two, and this

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Speaker 2: right here is the award winning Morning Combat Combat Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: My name is Brian Campbell, just one half of your duo,

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Speaker 2: coming live and direct from Deadwood, South Dakota for this

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Speaker 2: evening showbox tripleheader. More on that to come. But you

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Speaker 2: don't come here for me, You stay for me in

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Speaker 2: the end. But what gets you in the building are

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Speaker 2: the words, the thoughts, the insults that come from that

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Speaker 2: fight analyst in the game today, he's Luke Thomas. And Luke,

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Speaker 2: this is your final day of solo parenting, mister mom,

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Speaker 2: have you done anything yet that you regret? Uh?

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Speaker 1: I don't want to make a joke that will get

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Speaker 1: And then now I'm washing it down with an additional coffee. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be one of those days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, dookie, don't judge Daddy when he vapes throughout the playground.

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Speaker 2: Don't judge him. Please, Okay, please?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't vabe at the playground. I don't do that, Luke.

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Speaker 2: Heavyweight main event going down from the Apex in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Chiago Santos Maheta thirty seven years Old a bit of

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Speaker 1: that again Richard Mann from Fight Metric had Here is

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Speaker 1: But what you saw in the first two rounds was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's of course Uncle I have lost his

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Speaker 1: I think that changes a lot. Actually, now that's a

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Speaker 1: that's still a a winnable path, and I think a

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine years old is not Calive from Daugistan in Russia. Luke,

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Speaker 2: would you does his game? Is there any parts of

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Speaker 1: You're seeing a lot from you know, for example, just

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Speaker 1: It could, It doesn't do anything for me. This is different.

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Speaker 1: that old bastard too.

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Speaker 2: I was like paul Anka showing up at the at

431
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Speaker 2: the Apex. I mean, this is great. These are like

432
00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 2: the old school guys Dana grew up watching on TV,

433
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,080
Speaker 2: and he's like, oh no, these these legends need to come.

434
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Speaker 2: It'd be like, Luke. It'd be like if they were like, hey,

435
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Speaker 2: b she and Luke, we just found out the lead

436
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 2: singer of Deep Blue something Breakfast of Tiffany's big MK fan.

437
00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,720
Speaker 2: We'd be like, yeah, bring him on the show right now.

438
00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 2: It's like that, Luke.

439
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, it is like that I forgot what your

440
00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,359
Speaker 1: question was at this point, but I guess my question was, this.

441
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Speaker 2: Is not look up just real quick. I am absolutely

442
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Speaker 2: addicted to Athletic Greens AG one.

443
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. People asked me, it's like is that just a bit,

444
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 1: and like, no, dude, it's a great way to start

445
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:39,560
Speaker 1: your day, honestly, Yeah, it's.

446
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 2: The healthiest thing I do all day. All right, Luke,

447
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,959
Speaker 2: it is prediction time here. But before that number six Unclijav,

448
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, number six, Jago Santos. Yeah, maybe I should

449
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,800
Speaker 2: look and get it right, Luke, number six on Kalijav,

450
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,760
Speaker 2: number five Santos. We know that the champion to share

451
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 2: is gonna face Yeerie Prohatska. We've got Jon whole of

452
00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: Its ranked number one, rackets ranked number three, and your

453
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,439
Speaker 2: buddy Anthony Smith at four. Before we talk about who

454
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 2: wins and why. What's legitimately at stake here?

455
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: Top five placement, not a title shot, but for on

456
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 1: caliv it's a main event. It's a guy who was

457
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: previously in a title fight. This is him if he wins,

458
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: saying I get to replace you in your spot in

459
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: what this division means for Thiago Santos, it's a you know,

460
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: I won't say do or die. It's maybe it's a

461
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,920
Speaker 1: little bit strong, but each one of these losses serves

462
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,360
Speaker 1: as if they again. If it's a loss, if he wins,

463
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,320
Speaker 1: forget it. But if he loses, just feels like, you know,

464
00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,719
Speaker 1: one step closer to not being in the UFC, or

465
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: certainly not at the top of the division, or something

466
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,360
Speaker 1: closer to this idea of Thiago Santos as a guy

467
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: we have to pay attention to at the very top

468
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: of this division. Really winning here is kind of essential.

469
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: If it doesn't happen, he would have to have a

470
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 1: major spark, which seems very unlikely after that. So this

471
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 1: is a huge opportunity, not just to stay relevant for

472
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: the current time being, but to remind folks you're still

473
00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,080
Speaker 1: an a class fighter capable of being in a title

474
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: fight with just a one or two more victories post this.

475
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,919
Speaker 1: It's big doings.

476
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Speaker 2: It is, And I'm the head of super fan Luke,

477
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to talk myself into him doing multiple

478
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,280
Speaker 2: things right, turn him back the clock, showing us that

479
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 2: spark again. But damn, this is the wrong opponent at

480
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:32,320
Speaker 2: the wrong time, with their stocks going in the opposite directions.

481
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Speaker 1: Do.

482
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Speaker 2: I feel like minus six hundred for Ankliav is almost insulting.

483
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 2: It's harsh. Luke, Yes, I do, but it's also potentially

484
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 2: kind of fair. If he is who Dennis Green thought

485
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 2: he was. Luke, you gotta go on Caliah, and I

486
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: think a thorough five round really not that close decision

487
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 2: win is most likely what we're going to see here

488
00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 2: on Saturday night.

489
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Speaker 1: I tend to think that on caliv will put him

490
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: away in the championship rounds. A decision would be in

491
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: no way surprising. But Thiago Santos we like, but I

492
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: just you know, and I get it, man. Like a

493
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: lot of times guys are like, well, you shouldn't the

494
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: towel in a big fight because you never know. Again,

495
00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: it's it's cases where the guys like fighting on a

496
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: prelim fight. It's like, I don't think you guys understand

497
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: the risk reward scenario. He went through those injuries in

498
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: the middle of a title fight, and if you're gonna

499
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: do that kind of thing, that's the time to do it,

500
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 1: I guess. But here he is on the other side

501
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: of that equation now paying those bills, and it has

502
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 1: dramatically reduced his offense, So we'll see what happens Luke.

503
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 2: That comen event. We hit the storylines just two days ago.

504
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 2: Marlon Maurice thirty three years old, but he's lost four

505
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 2: of his last five. They've all been by TKO. There

506
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: is an extreme amount of must win here against Song

507
00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: Ya Dong. What the hell can Marlon Marias do to

508
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: stop the bleeding? Luke?

509
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, maybe he could wrestle Song

510
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:05,239
Speaker 1: You Dong. Maybe he could do that, although he's not

511
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: he can wrestle, he hasn't shown a ton of it.

512
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: This is a tough one. So I've been going back

513
00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: and looking at Songya Doong's fights in preparation for today

514
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: and the one loss that he has recently, I think

515
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: in his last five. Yeah, he has the drug in statement,

516
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: but the loss was to Kyler Phillips, and Kyler Phillips

517
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 1: was able to stand on the outside and blitz into him,

518
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 1: hit and move mix in takedowns and so Song You

519
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,439
Speaker 1: Dong just couldn't quite get a read on what he

520
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: had to do and was a bit overwhelmed. But dude,

521
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Speaker 1: Kyler Phillips is like the man. He's really really, really good.

522
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: We saw that in his last fight. We saw that

523
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Speaker 1: in this one when he beat Songya Dong as cleanly

524
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Speaker 1: as he did. I couldn't believe how easy he made

525
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Speaker 1: it look. But is Marlon Morice that guy? We know

526
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: he can counterstrike and move on the outside a little bit.

527
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: But BC, if you're going to allow you dong to

528
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: just pressure forward in that way, that's that's not by

529
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Speaker 1: itself the ingredient that gets it all done. But we've

530
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Speaker 1: seen all the dudes who win, Cory sand taking a

531
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: little bit more of a mover, but still it's a

532
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: bad way to fight. And I feel like he's just

533
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: gonna get backed up again. Man, Like, what can he do?

534
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: He cannot do that? But that's not what he's been

535
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: doing this whole time. Huh. It's a tough fight for

536
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 1: Old Moreland, man.

537
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 2: I agree. And if you're if you can't stop your

538
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,360
Speaker 2: dong from pressuring forward, you're gonna catch a case. Luke,

539
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,280
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? That's gonna be an HR violation.

540
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: I do, I do?

541
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: I know what song did you sing to your dong?

542
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: Twenty four years old minus two fifty five favorite plus

543
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,800
Speaker 2: two oh five from Rece You would, Luke, you would

544
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: think it might be odds wise a little more harrowing,

545
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: but song you donk still has more to prove. He's

546
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 2: more complete, he doesn't have the gaping holes of Marlonris.

547
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say it, Luke, we might be seeing

548
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: him lose five of six and wild dude.

549
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 1: He is the guy that beat al Joe and stopped

550
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,959
Speaker 1: and stopped Aljo, stop, Jimmy Rivera, all that shit, and

551
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: now he just can't he can't find well again. We'll

552
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: see what happens tomorrow.

553
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: But can't a Barrau like fall from grace?

554
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: Luke, Wow, look at Barat took a shitload of damage,

555
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: like there was a cumulative I mean, he's taken some damage,

556
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: but it just seems like out of nowhere. It just

557
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: when it turned, it just turned.

558
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 2: You know, Luke, give me your left wing lock lead pipe,

559
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 2: locked and loaded. Pick of the week on this undercard.

560
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: Where does your confidence lie the heaviest in a number

561
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,920
Speaker 2: of these close matchups on paper that we celebrated on Wednesday,

562
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 2: which one you're feeling the most confident about?

563
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 1: Okay, definitely gonna say sadik yusif, which we talked about

564
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. I'll pick a different one. For the sake

565
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 1: of today's show. Looking up and down here the opening

566
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,600
Speaker 1: is interesting one and Chook, I'm gonna pronounce mispronounce this

567
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: guy's name and Chook you again and Chook we he's

568
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: the guy out of teamload over and here in Camp Springs, Maryland,

569
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,479
Speaker 1: he's a beast. That's an interesting one. I'll give my

570
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: lock though, to to tell you know what I'll do.

571
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 1: Miranda Maverick over Sabina Ago. We talked about that one,

572
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 1: but I think Maverick has the moving in and out

573
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,719
Speaker 1: side to side style that should give Sabina Maso problems.

574
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: But we'll have to see.

575
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: Maverick minus three thirty five favorite over the plus two

576
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 2: to sixty Maso due this Drew Dober Terrence McKinney fight again,

577
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: McKinney on short notice, trying to make trying to make

578
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: it happen here. This is gonna be a banger. Drew

579
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: dober minus one sixty five. I love that fight, Luke.

580
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: Not a lot to talk about. Camille Roundtree Junior versus

581
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: Carl Roberson. Both could really use a big win here.

582
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: The fight isn't say in the world on fire in

583
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: terms of its stakes, but it's actually pretty good fight.

584
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: That should be two guys who have a lot of

585
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: high octant offense at times, two guys who sometimes make

586
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: a lot of mistakes like that. One could go a

587
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: lot of different directions, you know.

588
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: And as we mentioned tune in early, Chris Mutino in

589
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: that second fight with the Green Hair lost to Sean O'Malley,

590
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: but gave his heart and soul to get to get

591
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 2: through at minus one fifty of the Favorite over Guido

592
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: Connetti and Luke. Finally, Goody Brundage is back. Do you

593
00:27:55,040 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: think we'll ever see his wife ABC Nation, Amanda Bobby

594
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 2: Cooper Bundridge back in the cage again after giving birth.

595
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 1: I have no clue. Okay, I have no idea.

596
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 2: Curly, you and I don't have the same favorite fighters. Look,

597
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: it's fine, It's it's cool, all right there, Okay, that's

598
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 2: the fight?

599
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: Are they your favorite fighters? Are your favorite fighters to

600
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: stalk on Instagram?

601
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Because there is a difference anyway, Luke Saturday is going

602
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: to give us Bell Tour two seven six nine pm

603
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 2: Eastern only on Showtime, emanating from the Family Arena in

604
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 2: Saint Louis, Missouri, and you want big steaks in the

605
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 2: main event, you're getting it big steaks. Sounds like every

606
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 2: restaurant what they offer here in Deadwood, Luke, that would

607
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: be true. Look, you know, I mean there ain't no

608
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: cvs is or Walmarts here in Deadwood.

609
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: You know, there is the ask the question if you

610
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 1: need headache medicine or an ace bandage or you know,

611
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,880
Speaker 1: hair gel, where do you go?

612
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't have those answers in front

613
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: of me, Luke, I really, I really don't. You'd love

614
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: it here though?

615
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: Do they have? They must have grocery stores, right, I.

616
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 2: Haven't seen evidence of that either, But Luke, every store

617
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 2: fronts of casino and every restaurant's the steakhouse. See you

618
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 2: back in dead would again? Look? You know who cleans

619
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: up here? Travis Tritt, Trace Adkins. There's just you know,

620
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: autographic guitars of those guys all over the damn place,

621
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: all right, Luke? This main event, Hell yeah. In terms

622
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 2: of the stakes Featherweights, it's Adam Borich, It's MADD's Burnell.

623
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: We talked on Wednesday about the momentum that both have

624
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 2: right and around twenty eight years old each and the

625
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 2: opportunity for what they're calling a future title shot. Could

626
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: it be directly against the winner of McKee and Pitple

627
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 2: two Friday night, April fifteenth. We don't know, but this

628
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: is a big deal considering where these guys are ranked.

629
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: The odds have it minus two thirty five for MADD's Burnell,

630
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: who's riding a seven fight win streak three to zero

631
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: in the Bellator cage against Adam Borich plus ninety who's

632
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: riding a three fight win streak Luke. Every stoppage win

633
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 2: for Borich has come has the exit has began via

634
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: f lying knee, which is interesting. We know that Burnell

635
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: can get things done on the ground. How much does

636
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: that little potential scenario play out here? Does Borich have

637
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 2: to make Burnell pay for going for that shoot?

638
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: Definitely, because I think Matt wrestling for Matt wrestling, who

639
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 1: is the better one? Like once somebody makes contact and

640
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 1: now you're wrestling, who's better there? Again, we'll have to

641
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: see on Saturday. Because Borich is young, you can make

642
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: huge improvements. By the way, it should be noted, I

643
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: watched the weigh ends today with him. Both guys have

644
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 1: to be in good shape, I think, but Borich looked

645
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:40,160
Speaker 1: in tremendous physical condition. I was blown away, So keep

646
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: that in mind. But it's still wrestling for wrestling, Matt

647
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: wrestling for Matt wrestling, grappling for grappling. Burnell is better

648
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: and has shown to be much better there on the

649
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: feet though Borich is going to have the advantage there.

650
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 1: You know, you're asking how much could the knee attacks

651
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: definitely knees up the middle. We're talking about takedown threats

652
00:30:56,760 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 1: for on calive and like establishing the takedown, you knowing

653
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: these up the middle. Throwing linear attacks up the middle

654
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: against wrestlers, that's what they're gonna fear in a lot

655
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: of cases, right, It's hard to get an angular attack,

656
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: and a lot of those times we in MMA situation,

657
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 1: so that could play a role. But is gonna have

658
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 1: to do that plus a whole lot of other things

659
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: to really put Mad's Burnell on the back foot for

660
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: five rounds, because that dude also has a very very

661
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: good high motor to push the pace.

662
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: Luke, I hope we get into the championship Browns here

663
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: because that's really where you find out not only what

664
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 2: a guy's made of in terms of you know, the

665
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: stamina plus chin and will and all that, but you

666
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: see the strategic adjustments, and that's what you're gonna need

667
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 2: to have a to have a prayer against the winner

668
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: of McKee and Pitbull too. As you said on Wednesday,

669
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 2: you want the winner of this fight to make the

670
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 2: kind of leap and statement that says they could potentially

671
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: give the champion a very tough night at the office.

672
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 2: With that in mind, Luke, do we get to these

673
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: championship browns? Who are you favoring? What the hell does

674
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 2: this fight look like? Come Saturday night?

675
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: We could Burnell crafty enough of a grappler where you know,

676
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,959
Speaker 1: he could find the back or the head and arm

677
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: triangle or something pretty quickly. Like you could never rule

678
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: that out, But I'm with you. I like it now

679
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: that beltre Obviously it's been long overdue that they were

680
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: supposed to have five round fights, you know, in situations

681
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: like this, And again we saw against Logan story in

682
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: his last contest. It wasn't BC just that the adjustments

683
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: he had to make, Although you are quite right by

684
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: that fifth round, it was just like dude, you know,

685
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: granted he was in control and all that stuff, but

686
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: it was still a bit of a fifth round. Who

687
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: can just push? Who can just make that last championship

688
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,120
Speaker 1: dig deep, reservoir of cardio, reservoir of heart kind of

689
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: kind of effort. Sometimes you have to do that too.

690
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: Beyond all the technique, those five round fights really let

691
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you see something like that. So I hope we get

692
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: there too. I would lean with Bernal. I just think

693
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: Burnew has he has looked so smooth, so clean. He knows,

694
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: you know. One of the parts of his game is

695
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: that he doesn't just take down and like, oh, let's

696
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: just see what happens here. He has a really clear

697
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 1: plan of attack. For the most part. He puts his

698
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: opponents in position to make choices either way. He knows

699
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: the outcome, which is why he's able to stay ahead

700
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: a lot of the times. He's got a lot of

701
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: different answers in scrambles, and I think that is gonna

702
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: be key. Maybe you can stop the takedown and get

703
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: to your feet for a little bit, but he's so

704
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: good at just making the scramble continue by pulling a hand,

705
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: pulling a leg, taking the back for just a second,

706
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: forcing you to keep moving, and that just nullifies you

707
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: for long stretches. So I'm gonna lean towards Burnell, but

708
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: it should be noted. Borich, I think has been underrated

709
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 1: at times. The Darien Caldwell loss was bad, but Burnell

710
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: and Caldwell are meaningfully different in a lot of ways too.

711
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: Let's see what he can.

712
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 2: Do to handicap it. I'm thinking of it like this, Luke,

713
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: which one of these two fighters with contrasting styles is

714
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: more potentially out of their element if the terms of

715
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 2: the fight don't go their way. Is it Adam Borich

716
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: on his back or is it Mad's Burnell on his

717
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 2: feet for an extended period. That's what's most interesting, because

718
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: Burnell has to trade with Boris God. You love Borich's

719
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: kickboxing game and his ability to control that there, But

720
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: is Borich's just the same more vulnerable when he's out

721
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: of his element? Luke.

722
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: It's a great question, and I think you're right. That

723
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: is what's going to ultimately prove who the winner is,

724
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: who fights, who puts the fight on terms that are

725
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: more comfortable and fitting with their existing skill set. I

726
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 1: would argue that both of these guys are not going

727
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable in either of those scenarios. But to

728
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,479
Speaker 1: answer the question more forthrightly forced to pick, I would

729
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: say Burnell is a little bit more out of his

730
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: element standing, then Borich will be out of his element

731
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 1: on the ground. That doesn't mean, by the way, again,

732
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: I'm picking Burnell to win. I do think he has

733
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: such a strong ground game, but Borich is going to

734
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: be I mean, you just have to know that it's coming,

735
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: and so you better have a lot of stuff prepped,

736
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: and I bet that they do. So Burnell will probably

737
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: have to earn it, like he does everything he probably

738
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: should by Saturday night.

739
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 2: Dad, there's a hard pick, man, there's a hard pick.

740
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: This is a two twenty eight year olds two hammers.

741
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: You just never no fight over fight. Who's really gonna

742
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: make that nice little turn? It's hard to say, so

743
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: I like this one.

744
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: I mean, I love Boritz, but but this is that

745
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 2: type of opponent who can stand up to him or

746
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: take him down for that matter, and just keep him

747
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 2: away from being the most dangerous spectacular version of himself

748
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: because of the well rounded skills he has. Yeah, I

749
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 2: gotta go Bernell, man, I gotta go Burnell too. But

750
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 2: luk at this comin event, I know you're not like

751
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: setting your egg timer to see Phil Davis return against

752
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 2: Julius Anglisius It's an important top ten rankings fight. They

753
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 2: both just recently lost to Vadeem Nemcoff in the Grand

754
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 2: Prix the champion at light have youweight Davis is thirty seven,

755
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 2: but you know he's won six of eight, with the

756
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 2: only two losses against Nemcoff. As we establish, what though, Luke,

757
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 2: with Davis a minus three twenty favorite, what are you

758
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 2: looking to gain from watching this? If anything?

759
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: Luke? So, so, here's what I'll say about this fight.

760
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: I do think there was a high chance that this

761
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: will be very boring. Want to be clear with the audience.

762
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: There's a good possibility this will suck as an entertainment prospect. However,

763
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: there are a couple of possibilities where it could be

764
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: not that one. Angliscus really has the performance of his career.

765
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: He has shown in fights against better named opposition that

766
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: he is at least up to the task of being

767
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: worthy in that slot, but hasn't turned that corner. So

768
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: that would be one signature win of Angliscus's career if

769
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: he really decides to do something about it, and the

770
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: Davis side, if Davis has enough of a gap on

771
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: Ingliscus and really can push the pace. I think he

772
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: can finish him off on the ground. I think he

773
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: can get the takedown, and Davis, when he wants it,

774
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: can have pretty good ground and pound at times. We

775
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 1: actually have seen that, particularly from like what we would

776
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: you call like a hip ride or like a turtle position,

777
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: that he has very good ground and pound from there. Surprisingly,

778
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: So there are possibilities where Davis can go in and

779
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 1: be like, I'm just gonna put a stamp on this

780
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: division and let everyone know. Maybe NAM call beat me,

781
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: but I really am going to get another crack at

782
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: that belt fair enough. But there's another possibility. I think

783
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: it's the most likely one where there is a gap

784
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 1: between Davis and Gliscus, yes, but not enough for a

785
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: beatdown for an entertainment purposes, and Egliscus is not so

786
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: beat up but he can't really rally, and they just

787
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: ride out that difference for fifteen minutes. That is the

788
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: likeliest scenario.

789
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a great call. I think Davis

790
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: as well, just well way more talented than Inglitzkus. From

791
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: what we've seen from Julius under the Belltour banner put together,

792
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: some wins are deserved. His sort of ranking and spot

793
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: as the alternate in the tournament. But this is a

794
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: big hill to climb because this you just can't look good.

795
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: You can't look great. Sorry, you can't look great against

796
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 2: Phil Davis. And he's still got enough Phil Davis to

797
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 2: make it, to make it where you can't look great

798
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 2: against it, even if Davis isn't doing enough, which is

799
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 2: typically the theme. Davis by decision, dude, bank it. I mean,

800
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 2: could he finish him? Could that gap be as wide

801
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: as you're saying? Potentially yes? But Davis by decision, bank it.

802
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: I'll quickly Luke John Salter still number one ranked at

803
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 2: middleway coming off the loss to Musasi, but he's a

804
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,320
Speaker 2: plus two four five underdog against the minus three to

805
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 2: ten Johnny Eblin ten and zero Salter. Though, Luke, it's

806
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: hard to manhandle. He's creased, crafty and gritty in his

807
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: own way. What do we have to see here from Eblin?

808
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: What he does best, Evelyn is a big, strong middleweight.

809
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 1: He finds the takedown, He pressures guys, and typically I

810
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: don't Beltore doesn't do a great job of collecting stats,

811
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: but in general he does that to very strong effect.

812
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 1: He doesn't make a lot of mistakes. He doesn't get

813
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: hit a lot. Granted, he has not faced the kind

814
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: of opposition that John Salter is in great detail. I mean,

815
00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: John Salter has fought Rafael Levato Junior. He's fought Musasi,

816
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: so he's fought dudes who were champions in this division.

817
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: In the case of Levato Junior, a world champion in

818
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: black belt level of jiu jitsu. So he's he's reached

819
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 1: the mountaintop, found himself a little bit wanting and is

820
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,399
Speaker 1: trying to stay up there. Eblin wants to take that spot.

821
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: That's really what this is about here. But Eblin is

822
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: Eblin is good dude. He's he Honestly, I'm not saying

823
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: this for effect. He's one of the most unherlded fighters,

824
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,919
Speaker 1: maybe in a high level organization anywhere. I've just never

825
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: seen a dude. I'll watch him on tape and I'm like, shit,

826
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: he's all right, man, Like he's worth paying attention to,

827
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 1: and like there's just no fanfare. I don't quite understand

828
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: this might be, however, be see, this might be one

829
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: of those fights where if he can do what he

830
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,399
Speaker 1: normally does again strong takedown, strong top control, good ground

831
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 1: and pound, good risk, control all that kind of stuff

832
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 1: he can. He can, I think, maybe begin to collect

833
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 1: some accolades that have been, in my judgment, a little

834
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: bit overdue everyone.

835
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,399
Speaker 2: But one of Johnny Eblin's fights as a professional has

836
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: been a finish either direction. So interesting to note there,

837
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: Luke in that opener, as we said, the Maori kid

838
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: JJ Wilson who's eight and oh, Luke, he's moving up

839
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: to lightweight for this fight against Godzi Rabotanov. How good

840
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: is Wilson really because when you look up the record,

841
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 2: man stops Pedro Carvalio gets that split decision win over

842
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: Taiwan Claxton, which really we started kind of taking better

843
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: notice of him after that. How high is the elite

844
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 2: potential for him?

845
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: Hi, he's gonna beat good fighters, I think still very early.

846
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: I mean, let's he only has eight fights. This will

847
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: be his ninth. We are talking about a guy Barry

848
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: Junior in his development, but he looks to me and

849
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: by the way, he should also be noted Robotanov has

850
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: literally more than double the amount of professional experience and

851
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: against some very tough guys. But JJ Wilson is different

852
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons. He has a lot of

853
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: overall ability generally, and I've said this before, he has

854
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: sought out the mentorship of elite training partners and elite coaches,

855
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: and they are giving him skills which I'm not saying

856
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,720
Speaker 1: he wouldn't have otherwise ordinarily gotten, but it just seems

857
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: like a very, let's put it this way, fruitful partnership

858
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: where I'm watching what he's doing in training based on

859
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, whatever is released on social media, which is

860
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: a limited worldview, to be clear. But HiT's good scrambling,

861
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 1: good takedowns. He already has some pretty good striking beyond that.

862
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 1: And I want to say too that this is is

863
00:40:58,440 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: a tough fight for him. But up to this point

864
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 1: point Belatzar has been giving him just the right kind

865
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: of fights to further his development in a very you know,

866
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: to maximally develop him. This one could be I'll tell

867
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: you this much, this one's either gonna be too much

868
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: too soon. Or if you beat a guy like Robotanov

869
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: on a night like this, JJ Wilson's elite upperbound potential,

870
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: let's say he's even higher than I thought. I think

871
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: this is a very tough fight for him, But if

872
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: he was this one, look.

873
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: Out, Yeah, Patton did upl from Luke Upperbound Limits. I

874
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: like that, and Luke, finally on this car, we did

875
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: talk about there's a few different undercard fights worth watching

876
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: for different reasons. I wanted to let the viewers know

877
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 2: that Diana Absaragova did make weight because Luke, you texted

878
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 2: me the video of her.

879
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: Oh that was for you. I saw that and I

880
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: was like, oh, BC's gonna love this. I mean, I

881
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: didn't hate it, don't get me wrong, but I was.

882
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: That was a little gift for a guy in Deadwood

883
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,720
Speaker 1: who I was sad.

884
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: Thank you. You know I can. You know I can

885
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 2: get my MMA news on my own. Thank you very much, Luke.

886
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: All right, Luke's topic number three that, of course sorry,

887
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: nine pm Eastern Saturday night only on Showtime as Bellatour

888
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 2: A prelims beginning at six in the East on Bellatour

889
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: and Showtime's YouTube channels. Okay, Luke, Topic number three, Dude,

890
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: We've got a fight. We've got an all freaking action

891
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 2: fight booked for UFC two seventy four. It goes down

892
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: May seventh, Phoenix, Arizona. We already knew that one. Justin

893
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: Gatge would challenge Charlie Olivera for the lightweight title in

894
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: the main event. Luke, how about this for an all

895
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: action co made Michael Chandler versus Tony Ferguson. It looks

896
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,839
Speaker 2: to be a go based on yesterday's developments. Hmmm, very

897
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: interesting your thoughts, Luke, Your thoughts hedged with the It's

898
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 2: kind of a step back for Chandler in a way.

899
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: Should we just swallow that thought and enjoy the action?

900
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 1: Wait? Are you what are you most concerned about?

901
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: That Tony Ferguson's dried up and that Chandler's gonna blow

902
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 2: him away?

903
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a little bit worried about that too, you know.

904
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,279
Speaker 1: I don't that be.

905
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: Or Look, even if it's not like a blowaway knockout,

906
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: that Tony just takes sustained, sustained damage for trying to

907
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 2: be a badass, you know.

908
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and if he does at his age, that could

909
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: spell real trouble for him. I mean, I think I

910
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: don't think he recovered. I don't know how anybody listen

911
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: who could recover from that beating against against Justin Gaigie

912
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: and be exactly the same. I mean, you have to

913
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: ask yourself if Tony Ferguson can't do it, I don't think.

914
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: And again he might. We'll see, we'll see what happens

915
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: against against Michael. But if if it turns out that

916
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,520
Speaker 1: the guy who left the Jacksonville Arena after getting beat

917
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: up by a gay chie can't come back right, there's

918
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 1: no there's no getting back to that pre geychie Ferguson,

919
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 1: then you know he's gonna be in real trouble here.

920
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Chandler is you know, certainly he is

921
00:43:53,160 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: a running gun style kind of fighter, which means he

922
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: can be clipped and he can be stopped. He nearly

923
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 1: won the lightweight title before not winning it, you know,

924
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: so that is a hallmark of his career and he

925
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: accepts it. He runs on that kind of risk, you know.

926
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: But I agree, like with Ferguson at in MMA, we

927
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: always keep doing this like, oh, there's a heroic effort.

928
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: It was a heroic effort. He showed a lot of guts.

929
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 1: He showed a lot of guts. Yeah, of course too,

930
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: Tony showed guts that we couldn't even imagine. But the

931
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: question is, now that the bill is due on the

932
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: other side, was it really worth all of that? Harder

933
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: to say again championship of a fight, but it did

934
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: I think it did affect him.

935
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: That's a twelve month period from May twenty twenty to

936
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: May twenty twenty one, in which Tony went through hell

937
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 2: for five rounds against Justin Gaetgee for their in arm belt,

938
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 2: loses a three round wide decision to Charles Olivera, and

939
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 2: then loses a three round wide decision to Benil Daryushan

940
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: takes takes a lot of damage in all that. I

941
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, I had wanted Tony to be

942
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: the comeback opponent for Connor McGregor, which which basically says,

943
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 2: we're not sure what Tony has left, but because we

944
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: also don't know exactly what we're getting from Connor, let's

945
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: max them together, Let's get the fireworks. Maybe I'm wrong,

946
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,960
Speaker 2: but I still feel like Chuck Chandler's right there in

947
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: title contention despite the big name losses he has had Luke,

948
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 2: because he's gone for it in those fights and had

949
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 2: major moments and shows you you know that he can

950
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: beat anybody on any night. I'm gonna try to just

951
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: put away my fears for Tony and just enjoy this

952
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: as a star studed action fight. Because this is the

953
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 2: kind of matchmaking we love, especially when guys get to

954
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 2: this point of their careers. I just, man, I just

955
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 2: don't think Tony's on this level anymore. And it scares me.

956
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: And he's and he just turned thirty eight, due thirty

957
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: eight at one hundred and fifty five pounds. Man, that's tough.

958
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: That's not that's tough. That's a tough place to be,

959
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 1: especially now you gotta fight Michael. And it's funny because

960
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: Michael Chandlers had a lot of damage and we know,

961
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: you know, can can run into trouble and has run

962
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 1: into trouble at times, but still has that ability to dish.

963
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: And I think that's been the thing that's been missing

964
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: from some of these losses. You know, he didn't just

965
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: get beat up against ola Era and Ferguson and to

966
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: a lesser extent, Daryush or whatever. But he just didn't

967
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: have lot of offense back and it was trying at

968
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: certain times, but you know what I mean, like it

969
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: just wasn't the same.

970
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looked after model, especially the dar Usef. I

971
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: just didn't see the spark really, you know, And I

972
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: don't know, and you look Chandler's a great insurance policy

973
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 2: to have on this card for the UFC, for that

974
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: fantastic Oliveragachi made event, you know, in terms of someone

975
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 2: falling out. So interesting right there, Luke. Topic four is

976
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 2: a combination of what went down this morning and what's

977
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: going to go down tonight, a little bit off the

978
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: beaten path of typical UFC belator PFL talk. Luke, let's

979
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: start one championship. That a card that I put pooed,

980
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 2: yet made highlights all over the damn social webs this morning,

981
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: and that co main event. Former UFC slugger John Lineker

982
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: is still a very elite slugger. Luke, Let's go to

983
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 2: the videotape against bantamweight champion Viviano Fernandez. Watched this morning, Gaffenator,

984
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 2: you got this, look at this, Luke, still got it?

985
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 2: Powers the last thing to go, Luke, that's your new

986
00:46:56,840 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: one FC or one championship, whatever you want to call it,

987
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 2: bantam wait champion. Uh Luke, does this feel though? Why

988
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 2: the hell did UFC let him go debate?

989
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Or what a little bit Fernandez is I think in

990
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: his forties forty one something like that, and double checked

991
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 1: me on that he looked to be in good shape.

992
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: This is a funny fight. I watched the whole thing.

993
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: Lineker got dropped actually in the first round, I think

994
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: with a right hook, because they were kind of trading

995
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: along the fence line and Lineker was doing better work.

996
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: But he gets dropped and then there was a scramble,

997
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: and then Lineker ends the round on top and was

998
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 1: still kind of beating him up in guard and you

999
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: could see bibyon on Fernandez's face was kind of fucked up. Granted,

1000
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: also remember one doesn't judge round one, round two, round three.

1001
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: That justiphed as a whole. But okay, you know, Lineker

1002
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: got dropped, but the one in the first round who

1003
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: you could tell was starting to put it on him

1004
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: was Lineker. Lineker got right back to it, even got

1005
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: taken down the second one. Dude, this was a good performance.

1006
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 1: Lineker's striking is still these wide although albeit extremely powerful hooks.

1007
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: But he did himself a favor here. He got taken

1008
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: down at times, he got pressed against defense at times,

1009
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 1: and he patiently but urgently worked his way back to

1010
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: his feet creates separation and then got back to his

1011
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 1: striking game. He didn't panic, he didn't get overwhelmed. Bibiana

1012
00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: Fernandez is extremely good on the ground and and Lineker

1013
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: just worked his way through it and then put on

1014
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: the intensity when he had to on the feet, went

1015
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 1: right back to it, pressed them up against the fence

1016
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: line and then boom boom up top. Dude, Lineker is

1017
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: a fucking beast. He has been a few guys that

1018
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: UFC has let go, and it's like good for these

1019
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: other organizations that they can have access to this kind

1020
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: of premiere and at least at the bare minimum BC

1021
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: super fun talent.

1022
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,600
Speaker 2: In first, I didn't think, you know, UFC letting him

1023
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,440
Speaker 2: go and him having the six sets now is on

1024
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: the same parallel as what Kyojo Kyogi Horrigucci has done

1025
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: since then. But Luke, I asked myself as you were talking,

1026
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: how the hell old is John Lennekerb's gotta be what

1027
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: thirty four, thirty five, thirty six. Look, he's thirty one

1028
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 2: and super young. Yeah, it is fun the UFC. In

1029
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: three years he's won all four of his one championship fights,

1030
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 2: including the last three by knockout, and Luke, if you

1031
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,439
Speaker 2: look back at it, at the end of his UFC run,

1032
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 2: he was, you know, two and two over his last four.

1033
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 2: But those are losses to return to Dillashaw and to

1034
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: Corey Sandhagen, and he's beaten boom Kellaherb, Marlon Vera, John Dodson,

1035
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 2: Michael McDonald before that. So Luke, looking back, what happened?

1036
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: I kind of forget. I forget the John Lineker UFC

1037
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 2: exit story. What the hell happened?

1038
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: He had a bunch of weight weight failures. That was

1039
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: a huge part of it. I don't remember how many,

1040
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: had three or four, maybe even more than that. He

1041
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 1: had constant problem. Remember this is a bansamweight fight by

1042
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: one standard, so one forty five. And so if you

1043
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: look at Fernandez and you look at Lineker, they looked huge.

1044
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:35,360
Speaker 1: So Winnaker Lineker, relative to his UFC days, had basically

1045
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: twenty more pounds to play with. I mean that's you know,

1046
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: it's not exactly right, because you still got to get

1047
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: down to the weight and you blow yourself up bigger.

1048
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 1: But the idea is it's certainly a more comfortable place

1049
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 1: for him to be. And I think you saw the

1050
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: fruits of that. He didn't look drained, and that's part

1051
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: of the reason why he was so patient. I think

1052
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: of the grappling is obviously his skills have developed, but

1053
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: more than that, he just has the reservoir of energy

1054
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: to deal with all of those problems. And he was

1055
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,959
Speaker 1: always a big puncher. Now he can settle into those

1056
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,399
Speaker 1: roles as well. It was just, you know what it was, man,

1057
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: he was putting there are some parts of his game

1058
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: that haven't come along again. He just still throws very

1059
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: wide and against a linear puncher who can really you know,

1060
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: zing it with fast hands, that's going to be a

1061
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: bit of a problem. But that's not Bibiana Fernandez. And

1062
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 1: so taking some things that were existing strengths, even if

1063
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: they're not perfect, and then really building in more calm, defensive,

1064
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: tactical strengths. Man, it did wonders for his game. I

1065
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: would love to see him back at one. Can you

1066
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: imagine if he was back at one thirty five right

1067
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: now in the UFC's division. He wouldn't be the best

1068
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: be seen, but he would be an exciting member of that.

1069
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: I would argue, probably top fifteen community who you could

1070
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 1: just rely on for a fucking awesome fight. So it's him.

1071
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: He's a belt holder in one good good for a job, you.

1072
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 2: Know, and I don't know his contract situation. If he's

1073
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 2: going to try to test free agency at the end,

1074
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 2: there's you know, he could be a big player in

1075
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 2: other organizations as well, with the depth belt or has

1076
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 2: a bantam weight and PFL throwing money at people. You know,

1077
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 2: you'd like to see him if he can go all

1078
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:57,760
Speaker 2: the way back to the highest level and make that return.

1079
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 2: We've look I mean, Rumble Johnson got cut one day

1080
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 2: from the UFC and made it back. You know, Arlovsky

1081
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: reinvented himself a couple of times, freakin' uh what's his name?

1082
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 2: At Flyway? Luke got cut and came back in one

1083
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 2: a UFC title. We'll see what happens there. What the

1084
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: hell is the guy's name? Oh yeah, Luke? In the

1085
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: main event, I don't have video of this because of

1086
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,279
Speaker 2: the timing of when it ended, but Tom Lee took

1087
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: on unbeating Gary Tonan. It took fifty six seconds for

1088
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: tonin will I believe I read going for a submission?

1089
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: Got sent Luke to the south, Got sent south? Luke.

1090
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: You watched this breakdown? Was it a shocking finish or what? Here?

1091
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 1: A little? I mean yeah, yes and no, I mean

1092
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, If you're coached by John Danaher.

1093
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: You're not going in there and without a plan. Right,

1094
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,400
Speaker 1: those guys they have a clear precise understanding of what

1095
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: to do. Now. Sometimes fights throw you variables and you

1096
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: have to react and stuff, but in general they have

1097
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: a plan and they went for a leg lock early. Now,

1098
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: of course that's not a bad plan. You've got one

1099
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 1: of the premier leg lockers in all of combat sports

1100
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 1: in Gary Tonin, ready to do that. But here's the thing.

1101
00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 1: He only had like what five or six fights before this.

1102
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: He'd been off since twenty twenty or I think even

1103
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 1: before that since the pand he've been off for a

1104
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 1: long time, several years due to the pandemic. And you know,

1105
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: you have to remember there's always a risk reward ratio.

1106
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Right on the one hand, if you're Gary Tonin, if

1107
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: you go for a leglock early, they're not sweaty and

1108
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: that gives you a lot better grip. And if you're

1109
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 1: as good at the leglocks as he is. By the way,

1110
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: I attended one time a three hour gary Tonin leglock seminar.

1111
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he you know, he's quite good at them.

1112
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, he is very very talented. He

1113
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: has a clear understanding of how to break an ankle

1114
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:43,719
Speaker 1: in ways that would would disturb and surprise you.

1115
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: Did you roll with him, Luke?

1116
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: No, he didn't roll with the students. It was just

1117
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,839
Speaker 1: all instruction. I mean, what would be the point I'd

1118
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,200
Speaker 1: last five seconds? But the point I'm trying to make

1119
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: here is the downside BC, as you well know, is Okay,

1120
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: they don't have sweat on them, but they do have

1121
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: maximum energy and the highest willingness to fight this off

1122
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: through even potential risk taking to do it because your

1123
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 1: hands are obviously going to be had to be occupied.

1124
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: They don't have a one armed heel hook. He's not

1125
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: a very high percentage one. So he went for it

1126
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: hands uh you know, to the ankle, and he got

1127
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: torn up. For dude ton Lee rolled with it. And

1128
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: here was the thing. Gary Toner was trying to off

1129
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: balance him. Take him off of his feet, because if

1130
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: you can stand while someone's trying to heal hook you,

1131
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,279
Speaker 1: you can't really get a whole lot going. You got

1132
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: to take them off of their feet to really have

1133
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: maximum effect. He kept trying, he couldn't do it. Remember,

1134
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: dude ton Lee trains right over here in falls Church

1135
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: Virginia with none other than mister heel hook himself, Ryan Hall.

1136
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: So you know, you also go up against an opponent

1137
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: who is whose coach is like one of the best

1138
00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: guys in the world at heel hooks. Sometimes Gary strategy works,

1139
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: sometimes it doesn't. It didn't today.

1140
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: Sixty percent of the time, Luke, it works every.

1141
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 1: Time, you know what I mean. So, because here's the thing, like,

1142
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: is it wrong for Gary Tonan to want to go

1143
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: for an early heel hook on an opponent who you

1144
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 1: have a good grip on. It doesn't sound like a

1145
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: bad idea, but it didn't really work this time.

1146
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: Hopefully Gary Tony will end up on season two of

1147
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:15,120
Speaker 2: The Apprentice one Championship addition to become an employee of

1148
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 2: Chat Tree sid Young Tong. Luke. Yeah, I think that's

1149
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 2: all I got from for you from Oh. If you

1150
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 2: and I ever had to fight for real, mme rules

1151
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,919
Speaker 2: for like I don't know, producing credit of the show

1152
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 2: or something, Petty, I would I would make sure it

1153
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 2: was a gee fight, Luke, because you you don't know

1154
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 2: shit about fighting. Geez bro I'm telling you I could,

1155
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 2: I could out I think that just gives me more

1156
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 2: options to outlast the size and weight discrepancy between us.

1157
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 1: I would let you pick how you want to lose,

1158
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: and then I would just do that. But you know,

1159
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,759
Speaker 1: anytime you want to shot at the title, you let

1160
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: me know.

1161
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 2: You know, the thing is that it won't it won't

1162
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 2: be where I where I'm announcing it well in advance, Luke,

1163
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 2: It'll be one of those fights that's just on. You

1164
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 2: know what I'm say that the choke was on and

1165
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 2: you know I didn't give you time to even get

1166
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 2: the gie out, Luke. Eagle FC goes down this evening

1167
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 2: in Miami, Florida. They're calling it Eagle FC forty six

1168
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 2: Kevin Lee and Diego Sanchez in your catchweight main event

1169
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 2: of one hundred and sixty five pounds the division that

1170
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: you want, Luke, let me ask you this. Diego Sanchez

1171
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 2: showed up at the way and he did Diego Sanchez things.

1172
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 2: He gave interviews to the SCHMO that was, uh, that

1173
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,799
Speaker 2: just I mean, it wasn't making a lot of sense, Luke.

1174
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 2: I guess this fight is here for name value and

1175
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: for Kevin Lee to begin his reclamation project, which look

1176
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 2: physically he's still able. So let's you know, I don't

1177
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 2: know let's see what future champion Kevin Lee can do.

1178
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 2: But is there any chance this doesn't end sadly tonight

1179
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,399
Speaker 2: in South Florida, Luke, I.

1180
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: Don't think so. I mean, first of all, if Kevin

1181
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: Lee lost, not that Diego Sanchez winning is a bad thing.

1182
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't mean it that way, but that would be

1183
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: a real bad moment for as you stated, like this

1184
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 1: is the Kevin Lee beginning of the comeback tour, right

1185
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: like you got to start this. You always said you

1186
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,839
Speaker 1: wanted a one sixty five pound way class. You got one,

1187
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 1: and you got one against an opponent who is very

1188
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: much past prime. You lose that, I don't even know

1189
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: what to say at that point. So I firmly expect

1190
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: that Kevin Lee will win. So on the other side,

1191
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, Kevin Lee, man, like we know this.

1192
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: Everyone wants to talk about when Kevin Lee is off,

1193
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: you know, when Kevin Lee is not doing well. But

1194
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: go back and look at his fucking highlights. You know,

1195
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: maybe b seeing, I got a little too aggressive with

1196
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 1: like future world champion. Maybe we didn't. But the reason

1197
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 1: why there was some well, you know, the point of

1198
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: making well.

1199
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: Look at the end of the day, it's his fault.

1200
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,240
Speaker 1: We saw what we saw, okay, but you would agree,

1201
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: you would agree it's like, you know what, it's funny someone.

1202
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: Maybe this is the wrong analogy to make, but no,

1203
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna jink something like that.

1204
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: The point I'm trying to make is if you the

1205
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make is if you made a

1206
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: highlight here's a question, if you made a highlight reel

1207
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,320
Speaker 1: of Kevin Lee's best moments versus Colby Covington's best moments,

1208
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: whose highlight reel would look cooler? Right, Kevin Lees would

1209
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: look cooler. That head kick knockout over Gregor Gillespie, by

1210
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: itself is better than anything Colby Covington has ever turned in.

1211
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: So the what I'm trying to make is we have

1212
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 1: seen some like flashes of like, holy shit, this guy

1213
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: is good. This is your chance. You're in the right

1214
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: way class. You have an opponent who should not be

1215
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: that much in terms of overall resistance. Kevin Lee's got

1216
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: to get it done tonight, and I expect he will.

1217
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: I really do.

1218
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 2: Diego Sanchez is forty years old, and Luke don't forget

1219
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 2: Kevin Lee. The only fighter in UFC history to challenge

1220
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 2: for at least an interim title with a staff infection

1221
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: and an open wound on his chest, Luke, So that

1222
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 2: was something.

1223
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: That won the first round, right or go to or

1224
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 1: something like that.

1225
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 2: Luke, in that Colemane event. I'm not bringing this up

1226
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: to get your analysis, but Eagle le FC heavyweight champion

1227
00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:59,760
Speaker 2: Ris von Kuniev will defend his belt against former UFC

1228
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: slugger Anthony Hamilton. But we got a picture of said

1229
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 2: Eagle FC championship belt delivered by Johnny on the spot,

1230
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 2: reporter on the scene, friend of the program in Columbia,

1231
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:17,320
Speaker 2: there is Danny Segarda, Luke, is that a good looking

1232
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 2: belt or not?

1233
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, the question is is it a good looking

1234
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: belt for the regional scene, because you know, compared to

1235
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: what the very best promoters have. No, it's not one

1236
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: of the better ones. I don't love it, I don't

1237
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: hate it. It's it's okay, it's okay, okay, what about.

1238
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: You can we zoom in on that, gaff. I don't

1239
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 2: mean to just demand here because Luke, you don't care

1240
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: about pro wrestling. But in the pro wrestling fandom, there's

1241
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 2: a lot.

1242
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 1: Of delays it's a little nubby.

1243
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: There's a lot of debates about the quality of belts

1244
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 2: and which ones were the best of all time and

1245
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 2: look the coolest. This one is definitely closer to being

1246
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 2: a debacle. But there are elements of it that I like,

1247
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: including that middle shield, the black with the eagle FC logo.

1248
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 2: You know, I do like that. Now, Luke, Danny's you know,

1249
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 2: early eighties adult film mustache.

1250
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: Do you like that, dude, I have to tell you that, Like,

1251
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: you know, this is a little I mean, that's very

1252
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:12,760
Speaker 1: much Danny's flair, but you know, and it's not so

1253
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: common these days, but it's funny. I've looked at pictures

1254
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 1: of Danny's parents and then pictures of my wife's parents

1255
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 1: from the same era, and they were all living in

1256
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,440
Speaker 1: Columbia the same time. I think every man in Columbia

1257
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: from the nineteen eighties had a mustache. And I think

1258
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: Danny's paying on.

1259
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 2: Dude, he's pulling it off. I mean, you could argue

1260
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 2: our Showtime bruser, Matt Snyder is sometimes pulling it off.

1261
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 2: It's a I wouldn't call it a low tea move,

1262
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 2: but he's trying for it. But I think Danny pulls

1263
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: it off. Well, Luke, well done on that. But Luke,

1264
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 2: that's not the only awkward picture I have to show you.

1265
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: If Danny found this in my phone. When I was

1266
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 2: scrolling back to twenty eighteen.

1267
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 1: On the plane, we were singing let it Go, let

1268
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: Us dance like two men.

1269
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: Due by the way, I got a shout out Danny.

1270
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,919
Speaker 2: He covers the shit out of these Florida events, whether

1271
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 2: it's AKFC or I mean, he's all over it. So

1272
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Speaker 2: follow his coverage right there as well. What's happening in that?

1273
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 2: What were you showing him a judo throw? What was

1274
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 2: happening here?

1275
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 1: I honestly might have been trying to hug my little

1276
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: brother and he kind of trying to get away.

1277
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: Looks like you're measuring his bust. I don't know, you know,

1278
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke.

1279
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: I need to put you in a fitted shirt.

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01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it right there. That was that was taken

1281
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 2: out the old Box House. Luke. You know what I'm saying,

1282
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 2: the House of Hell.

1283
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying.

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01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, wow. You know they you know

1285
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: they they paid me to show up there, but they

1286
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 2: paid me ship. In hindsight, Luke.

1287
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that's not very surprising to hear.

1288
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: Why not just give me trained fair? And that's it.

1289
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 2: That was basically what it was. Luke. Finally, topic five, Luke, Tonight,

1290
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 2: it goes down a tripleheader nine to thirty five pm

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01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: Eastern only on Showtime. It is Showbox the New Generation,

1292
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,880
Speaker 2: and it goes down here like maybe not in this room,

1293
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 2: but here at the Deadwood Mountain Grand in Deadwood, South Dakota.

1294
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 2: But they've been incredible hosts, you know, do they have

1295
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 2: the amenities that a city slicker like me would be

1296
01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: looking for? That's arguable. But Luke, before you know, I

1297
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: tell you briefly about what to watch for tonight, and

1298
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 2: hopefully our MK fans will follow my journey. Let's follow

1299
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 2: the journey here of the Marquez family, which is a

1300
01:01:20,040 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: big part of this. In the opening bout this evening,

1301
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 2: young Giovanni Marquez, a national US Golden Gloves champion and

1302
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: of course son of the former Olympian, former IBF Junior

1303
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 2: Middleway Champion of the World, and current Showbox color commentator

1304
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 2: and analyst l Diamonteo Raloul Marquez. Raoul will be in

1305
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 2: the corner of his son's pro debut against Nelson Morales,

1306
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: a one hundred and forty seven pound bout that will

1307
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: be four rounds, and he will then take off the

1308
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 2: cape in return and call the fights with Barry Tompkins myself.

1309
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,280
Speaker 2: So far ahead, let's go to the videotape here of

1310
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 2: a little feature Showtime that's put together, you know, chronicling

1311
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 2: the relationship of father and stuff.

1312
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 3: Boxing was always in the family. It was always the

1313
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 3: talk at the dinner table. I was just already in

1314
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 3: the sport. Whether I liked it or not.

1315
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 4: I was against it. I didn't want my kids to box.

1316
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 4: Boxon's the dangerous sport.

1317
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 3: My first sport I actually played that I fell in

1318
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 3: love with was football.

1319
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 4: You know, Jovanni was good. They called him the g Unit.

1320
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: I don't know much about football, but I knew it

1321
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 4: was good because he was playing the field. His first

1322
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 4: game in middle school, he had a scrimmage game to college.

1323
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 1: They broke his collar bone.

1324
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:40,000
Speaker 3: That's when I decided I want to dedicate my life

1325
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,120
Speaker 3: to boxing because I'm better at it, and that's just

1326
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 3: what I wanted to do. Printing with my dad is

1327
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 3: an honor and a privilege. A former world champion former olympian.

1328
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 3: All that knowledge, he's just feeding.

1329
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: It into me.

1330
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 3: Winning the twenty twenty one National Gunding Gloves was a

1331
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 3: very big deal for me. It was a difficult tournament.

1332
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 3: You know, in these tournaments you have to make way

1333
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 3: every day. You have to stay composed, stay focused.

1334
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,520
Speaker 4: And I told him, when you win the National Golden Gloves,

1335
01:03:11,560 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 4: or you win any national tournament, your life is going

1336
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 4: to change.

1337
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: In boxing Wall sure enough.

1338
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 4: For ever since then it has. Jovanni is a different

1339
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 4: type of cap. He's got a lot of speed, he's flashing,

1340
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 4: he's moves. You know, he's not the typical making if

1341
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 4: I just comes forward and this bang. I was that

1342
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: kind of guy and he's not. He mixes it up,

1343
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:30,560
Speaker 4: he changes it up.

1344
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 3: What's going through my head before I go to the

1345
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 3: ring is just focusing on the mission, and that's to

1346
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 3: get a win, and not only to win, but to

1347
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 3: win in outstanding fashion. There's always going to be added pressure,

1348
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 3: but for me, pressure helps me perform better.

1349
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:49,800
Speaker 4: He wants to show the world that he's got skills,

1350
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:51,880
Speaker 4: that he's not just on there because he's my son.

1351
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: He's on there because he's good.

1352
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: It's my will to.

1353
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,760
Speaker 3: Win that is my best strength because I'm gonna do

1354
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 3: whatever it takes to come out Victoria.

1355
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: Luke. I gotta say, Raoul is among the best people

1356
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:13,919
Speaker 2: in this in this dark and shady business, Raoul Mark

1357
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 2: has salt of the earth. Love him, dude. You know

1358
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 2: he always picks up the tab when there's a few

1359
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 2: bears to be had. I love that, man, I.

1360
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: Was to say real quickly. I was gonna add very

1361
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:24,640
Speaker 1: quickly if I maybe see like a I have found

1362
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: that people in the boxing industry are significantly nicer than

1363
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: they are in MMA. Everyone in MMA is pissed off

1364
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: at each other and boxing they actually are pretty friendly.

1365
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: And even among that consideration, Raoul is easily one of

1366
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: the nicest people I have met in the industry. A

1367
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: genuine sweetheart and a badass and a good commentator. And

1368
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,640
Speaker 1: I bet he's gonna have his son in a winning

1369
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: position tonight. I can't wait to see it.

1370
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 2: It's interesting because Giovanni, the fighter who's making the pro debut,

1371
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 2: has been cool as a cucumber all week, such a

1372
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 2: great kid. It's Raoul that's been you know, on edge,

1373
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 2: just dad and trainer and.

1374
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, Raoul.

1375
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: By the way, it's a family boxing bus business. One

1376
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: of his other sons, Arturo, went ten to zero as

1377
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 2: a pro before retiring in twenty eighteen. And this is

1378
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 2: now Joe Vannie, as we said, national champion, So it's

1379
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 2: going to be a fun moment to watch. And of

1380
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 2: course this main event though, Luke Ardriel Holmes, the middleweight.

1381
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,200
Speaker 2: He was, by the way, the high school girlfriend, a

1382
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 2: high school boyfriend of Clorisa Shields, went to the senior

1383
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: prom together at Flint Northwestern High in Michigan. He was

1384
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 2: an alternate on the twenty sixteen Olympic team. He's unbeaten,

1385
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 2: but he's been out of the sport for two years

1386
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 2: and four months and kind of lost his love for

1387
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,840
Speaker 2: it during the pandemic. He's going to be in there

1388
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 2: against a guy who's coming after it and Vernon Brown

1389
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: who's moving up last minute from the co main event

1390
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,560
Speaker 2: and says, look to close that five inch hike gap.

1391
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 2: I got to get inside this kid's chest and put

1392
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: it on him. So this is going to be a

1393
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 2: very fun triple header there. In the main event that

1394
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 2: I just mentioned, Luke Deadwood Tonight nine thirty five pm Eastern.

1395
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: On SHOTA nine thirty five pm Eastern and by the way,

1396
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: we've seen it a lot in combat sports. Sometimes these

1397
01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: guys have they lose a little bit of time because

1398
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: OVID disruption, like travel, maybe they got sick, maybe they didn't,

1399
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:04,280
Speaker 1: but you know, the whole thing just kind of opponents

1400
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: fell out or whatever and they can't get going. Sometimes

1401
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 1: they come back from these layoffs and they a little

1402
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: bit struggle. Sometimes they come back roaring off these layoffs.

1403
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: So tonight, looking forward to seeing what happens here for

1404
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:16,120
Speaker 1: you. You can't wait to hear it.

1405
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:19,080
Speaker 2: It's one of those cool style matchups where Urdreell Holmes

1406
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 2: is six foot two, you know, junior welterweight with long

1407
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 2: arms in a boxer against a small, compact, muscular opponent

1408
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 2: and Vernon Brown, who's gonna, like I said, come in

1409
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 2: on him.

1410
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,040
Speaker 1: So let me say one thing for UBC, for the

1411
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,840
Speaker 1: MMA fans who are watching. You know, you're a terrible

1412
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: person and I hate your guts, but you're a pretty

1413
01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: damn good commentator. Like if you've not heard BC do it.

1414
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: He sucks as a human. I mean, he is a

1415
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: loathsome zero, but but you hear him on the microphone.

1416
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: The passion for it is real. Obviously, the knowledge Ford

1417
01:06:49,600 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 1: is real, Barry does a good job with you guys,

1418
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: and whether Rowel is there, and I'm sure obviously after

1419
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,479
Speaker 1: the first fight he'll be back and rate a rock. Dude.

1420
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: If you guys have not heard BC call fight, you're

1421
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 1: missing it is a very very good commentator, even if

1422
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 1: he is a fucking horrible zero.

1423
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 2: With the love and support for my brother there LT,

1424
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 2: thank you so much. All right, those are your five

1425
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: main topics for the week, Luke. Every Friday, though, we

1426
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:15,000
Speaker 2: do offer that email address to the fans Morningcombat at

1427
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 2: gmail dot com to say you got an issue with

1428
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 2: something we said during the week. We get something wrong,

1429
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 2: won't you put it on paper? Want you add a

1430
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,760
Speaker 2: few receipts and once you step up and try to

1431
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 2: tell one of us that we were dead wrong, Luke.

1432
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,840
Speaker 2: People think this segment is unnecessary and pedantic.

1433
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: It's the most necessary thing we do. It's the most necessary.

1434
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 2: It's super necessary. Okay, uh, this is from Adam g.

1435
01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,520
Speaker 2: He says, hello, my fellow wash donks. Look at forty

1436
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,120
Speaker 2: four minutes of Friday show. Thought the movie Stand by

1437
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 2: Me had a chick dying from beastings And by the way,

1438
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: I nodded like Yeah, you're right. Uh, that is dead wrong.

1439
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 2: The movie you were referring to is My Girl with

1440
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 2: Bully Culkin, where his character spoiler alert dies from being beastings.

1441
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: Easy mistake when you keep puffing that vape. Remember, marijuana

1442
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 2: is a memory loss drug. I think, Adam, g Wow,

1443
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:25,679
Speaker 2: this is not this is not weed.

1444
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:28,120
Speaker 1: This is just whatever poison they put in regular vapes.

1445
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great, that's great, Luke. Look, not only do

1446
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 2: you drink energy drinks, which is a real dirt bag,

1447
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 2: you know, move to begin with, you drink like the

1448
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 2: like the bottom barrel kind too. You're like, what has

1449
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 2: you got skull and crossbones on there?

1450
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: Let me get that, bro. They got branch chain of

1451
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 1: me know acids in here. You don't know shit about that.

1452
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,640
Speaker 2: Oh look, I'm gonna I am gonna give you a

1453
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,880
Speaker 2: heartfelt yet hilarious eulogy one day.

1454
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: It's like, folks, we all knew this was coming, Like,

1455
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: no one's here by surprise.

1456
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,679
Speaker 2: Look, this dirtbag was I'll probably be in the midst

1457
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 2: of a liver transplant that boy. But Stell you know

1458
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 2: who can talk. You know what I'm saying. Hey, Luke

1459
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: Shane is here, He says, uh, what's up BC you

1460
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 2: country time lemonade, bitch.

1461
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: Wow, Shane lemonade, pink lemonade.

1462
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,720
Speaker 2: Shane here from Cork, Ireland. And at an hour and

1463
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 2: fourteen on Friday Show on the fourth of March, b

1464
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 2: C and Luke were debating why coving Kubbley Covington, I'm sorry,

1465
01:09:33,360 --> 01:09:36,719
Speaker 2: was first on the poster and not Mosvidal. Washed BC

1466
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: thought it was because Covington had the potential to make

1467
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 2: more big fights in the future compared with mos Vidal.

1468
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 2: That would be dead wrong. They've always had either the

1469
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:48,000
Speaker 2: champion or the person who is higher in the rankings

1470
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 2: first on the poster. Look at any of Connor's big

1471
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 2: fights though three years when he was clearly the bigger

1472
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:57,600
Speaker 2: star and second name on the poster. Mendus all the

1473
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 2: Pourier fights, Alvarez in Haben. You guys must be having

1474
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,520
Speaker 2: even more delta ates than I thought. Much love from Ireland,

1475
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:07,840
Speaker 2: All right, Chane, I'll take that al I was wrong, Okay.

1476
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 1: I will say this like, the longer I stay in

1477
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,320
Speaker 1: the business, the more things that I used to know

1478
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 1: off the back of my hand that I now forget. Yes,

1479
01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:20,360
Speaker 1: So that's one thing that I have to correct for

1480
01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: now that I did not used to have to correct for.

1481
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,839
Speaker 2: I agree with you A few people, Dalton, Gusto Colin,

1482
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 2: they all sent the same thing. Episode two seventy three.

1483
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 2: At one, Luke says, I'm the Tim Elliott glove grab quote.

1484
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: That's what Joel Romero did to Tim Kennedy. It was

1485
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 2: actually Kennedy who grabbed Romero's glove and punched him several times,

1486
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,960
Speaker 2: leading into the infamous stoolgate incident. In round three, Luke,

1487
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 2: I love me some Joel Romero, but that Stoolgate incident

1488
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 2: was grimy as shit. He was like public enemy number

1489
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:51,720
Speaker 2: one on there list.

1490
01:10:51,800 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: Jesus, my memory is bad. I could have sworn it

1491
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: was the other way around, and that's partly what Tim

1492
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,679
Speaker 1: was complaining about, was the grabbing of the glove. That's

1493
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: not okay. You know what, if I need to double

1494
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: check that. But if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, and certainly

1495
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 1: I had been wrong before.

1496
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:10,759
Speaker 2: The same person says, I forgive Luke, though, because trying

1497
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 2: to focus on a show, hold onto a toddler, and

1498
01:11:14,120 --> 01:11:17,839
Speaker 2: surreptitiously vape at the same time while having to urgently

1499
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 2: shit cannot be easy. Keep up the great work that's right.

1500
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 1: Put some respect on my name.

1501
01:11:24,439 --> 01:11:26,799
Speaker 2: I mean, Luke, you have to say, was it Friday

1502
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 2: show or Monday? What was the show that like the

1503
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 2: you know, the monster was pushing the door down, and

1504
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 2: you you yelled at everybody like you You've had a

1505
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,080
Speaker 2: rough Monday.

1506
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 1: Monday. Monday was a rough one for me because I

1507
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 1: didn't sleep. I didn't sleep. My daughter got up today

1508
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 1: at like five twenty. I'm like, what are we doing?

1509
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:45,280
Speaker 2: This is no I respect, Luke, I respect what you're doing.

1510
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: My wife goes away on business once a year and

1511
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,320
Speaker 2: that week I am mister mom granted to teenage boys,

1512
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 2: but I got but you know, five animals, Luke, I

1513
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 2: can't keep up with this shit. You know what I'm saying.

1514
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a lot. I mean I got two dogs

1515
01:11:57,000 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 1: and a toddler. I'm your boy is cooked?

1516
01:11:59,760 --> 01:11:59,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1517
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah all right? Jordan from Hawaii, Hawaii says, at about

1518
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 2: six minutes in on two seventy four the episode, Luke

1519
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 2: mentions our Washington commanders trading for Carson Wentz and the

1520
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook trade that happened shortly before this. Luke, I

1521
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,720
Speaker 2: know you don't play the basketball as much as anymore,

1522
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 2: but you surely know Russell Wilson from Russell Westbrook. Correct.

1523
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: I mean you know, listen, all right, fine, all right,

1524
01:12:26,479 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: I mean you know who I'm talking about. Fucking I'm

1525
01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 1: tired and Westbrook's been in the news because everyone's slandering

1526
01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:34,719
Speaker 1: him for poor play. I mean, all right, fine, fine, fine, fine.

1527
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: While correcting the actual words, I share your sentiment about

1528
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 2: Wentz fart noise. Hope he proves us wrong. It's Jordan Common,

1529
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:47,240
Speaker 2: Commander's fan from Hawaii. I can't talk. Luke Wow, Yes,

1530
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: all right, Luke Bryan sliding in Luke and BC. During

1531
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,920
Speaker 2: the have you Seen this Shit? Segment on last Monday's

1532
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:59,719
Speaker 2: UFC Vegas forty nine episode, Luke incorrectly identified Ronnie Deutsch's

1533
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 2: beer vessel as an AK forty seven. Come on, Luke,

1534
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 2: the collapsible stock, the floating handguard that is clearly an

1535
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: AR platform, not in AK. Lastly, note the shape of

1536
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 2: the magazine. It's straight, as you well know an AK bag, yes,

1537
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:19,760
Speaker 2: would be curved, much like a yellowing fungus infested toenail

1538
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:22,520
Speaker 2: of a certain middle aged wash podcast.

1539
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: I like how I'm the dead wrong, but you take

1540
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 1: the beating.

1541
01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: Speaking of Jake by the way the documentary in, Luke,

1542
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,640
Speaker 2: he was the one who shot that video of the

1543
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: Marquez family in Houston, and he's here in Deadwood to

1544
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 2: to follow them on the journey.

1545
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 1: So is he as miserable as you are right now?

1546
01:13:44,479 --> 01:13:44,960
Speaker 2: You know what I hear?

1547
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: How many times have you asked him to desperately please

1548
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 1: leave your room? Yeah?

1549
01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 2: Not yet, you know what I've heard from every single

1550
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 2: local though, they say it the same way. They're like,

1551
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 2: we're sure glad to have you here. We're sure glad.

1552
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. That's that's sweet, Luke, That's

1553
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:02,719
Speaker 2: very sweet. Okay. The women are heavily tatted, Luke. The women,

1554
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 2: they're heavily tatted in this place.

1555
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that. That's nice. All right?

1556
01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:10,719
Speaker 1: Uh do you do you do you like tatted women?

1557
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 2: I usually like tatted women as much as I like

1558
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 2: women who smoke cigarettes, Luke, which is not at all,

1559
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:23,080
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, done in a refreshing way, Luke.

1560
01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, sure, why.

1561
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: Not right, I'm not. I'm not into like, like horror

1562
01:14:27,400 --> 01:14:31,040
Speaker 1: tattoos all that much, but like the people who get

1563
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: like the the Japanese stuff, traditional Japanese is that's my

1564
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:36,000
Speaker 1: that's my jams.

1565
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 2: You send me both male and females naked with like

1566
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 2: tats down with their ass and you want like legitimate

1567
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 2: analysis from me, and I'm just like, get this away, bro,

1568
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 2: this is mine, this is my Wow. Wow, that's uh,

1569
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 2: that's something, Luke. There's a man named Brian who says,

1570
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: look and b c uh. Oh we just read that ship. Oh.

1571
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 2: He also said I hate to dead wrong you, you

1572
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 2: old biac, but I figured any respectable cover wearing Murrican

1573
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,679
Speaker 2: would get this right. Keep up the excellent working content, boys.

1574
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 2: Donk Army is here for all of it.

1575
01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:12,000
Speaker 1: Yes, that's fair enough, that's fair enough.

1576
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: I also skipped a dead wrong last week, Luke. I read,

1577
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 2: I must have been on the eighth chair there at

1578
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 2: the exit row and I missed where they also dead

1579
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,080
Speaker 2: wrong me for saying gay guard beat jocker a two

1580
01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:27,800
Speaker 2: times only once. I don't know what that means. All right, hey, Luke.

1581
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 2: They asked me, you know, hey BC, you know it's Friday.

1582
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:32,920
Speaker 2: You want to do a fun segment to close the show.

1583
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:36,080
Speaker 2: You want to get creative and get you know, wheels out.

1584
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 2: I was like, no, I just want to talk some

1585
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 2: game with Luke Thomas. We call it MK Happy Hour

1586
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 2: and just vape and you know, just just talk about

1587
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 2: whatever the hell I want to. So, Luke, here's the

1588
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 2: debut of what I hope is a Friday installation. Here,

1589
01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 2: MK Happy Hour, run the non existent animation there it

1590
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 2: is Luke Luke before, yeah, before where we talk about

1591
01:16:00,880 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 2: nothing here. I did a call to action though on

1592
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,000
Speaker 2: Wednesday's show while wearing my orange you know, Deadwood Mountain

1593
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 2: Grand had and said, do we actually have any South

1594
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 2: Dakota listeners? Remember? I said, over under, what was the number?

1595
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 2: Was it like three or five on.

1596
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: Total subscriber three?

1597
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,920
Speaker 2: And you went under Luke. So we did receive a

1598
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: response from Danielle, a National Guard vet who retired last year,

1599
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,680
Speaker 2: is a huge fan of MMA and is considering the

1600
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:34,519
Speaker 2: trip to Deadwood to check out the fights tonight, from Sean,

1601
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 2: who said, you can tell Luke that indeed, we do

1602
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,640
Speaker 2: have internet here, and you can also let BC not

1603
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,599
Speaker 2: to try the gas station, deep friar mac and cheese

1604
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: bites before he leaves, because Connecticut don't have that shit.

1605
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 2: South Dakota's own Taylor said he wants to buy me

1606
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,000
Speaker 2: a beer in Deadwood today, and he's here for his birthday, Luke,

1607
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,040
Speaker 2: and he said, Luke is spot on. Most houses have

1608
01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:02,439
Speaker 2: antlers hanging somewhere, but they do have decent internet, Luke.

1609
01:17:02,439 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 2: Once again, but think about it. Look, there's so little people.

1610
01:17:04,880 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 2: Maybe it's not clogging that shit up, you know what

1611
01:17:06,720 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

1612
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna guess it's not like you know, Well,

1613
01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I guess they probably got some

1614
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:13,760
Speaker 1: fiber optic sit up in there.

1615
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 2: But also, Luke, a fellow named Chance ch A n

1616
01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 2: s e. Luke. Is that a manly name or not?

1617
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:28,400
Speaker 1: Depend I don't know. It depends, all right, he says.

1618
01:17:28,439 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: Not only not only am I potentially your only YouTube

1619
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,679
Speaker 2: subscriber that lives in South Dakota, but I'm also going

1620
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 2: to ride my horse to Deadwood on Friday night to

1621
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 2: attend the Showbox event that BC will be commentating. Don't worry,

1622
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:43,120
Speaker 2: I will leave my six shooters at the weapon depositary

1623
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 2: near the swinging double doors, and I would wear some

1624
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 2: MK merch to the event. But upon submitting my order,

1625
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 2: an error message says, sorry, delivery to Bump fuck Nowhere

1626
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 2: is unavailable at this time, Luke. True fact, you can't

1627
01:17:55,880 --> 01:17:57,559
Speaker 2: get uber eats in Deadwood. And it's killing.

1628
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 1: Uh no, you cannot. And in fact, BC he let

1629
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 1: me see if I could pull this up. BC sent

1630
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 1: us some very real proof of this, and I was like,

1631
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:10,719
Speaker 1: holy shit, he was telling the truth. Here's BC trying

1632
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: to get uber eats in South Dakota. Ready. I don't

1633
01:18:15,960 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 1: know if you can see the screen or not. Pull

1634
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: it back a little bit. You see it says currently unavailable.

1635
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 1: Our service is not available. Yes, there you go.

1636
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: Obviously, Luke, I will say it's a chance. I'll say

1637
01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 2: this the chance, you know, because there's no there's no

1638
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,639
Speaker 2: chance he's riding a horse in this weather. Luke. It's

1639
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 2: been single digits and snowing all week, and last night

1640
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 2: it only said twelve degrees. And you know, I'm no,

1641
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:43,639
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm you know, am I an old bitch? Yeah?

1642
01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 2: But I'm no full bitch, Luke. I mean I deal

1643
01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 2: with Connecticut winters, dude. Twelve degrees last night felt like

1644
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,679
Speaker 2: minus thirty. I mean it was just brutal.

1645
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,040
Speaker 1: I feel like when you're in South you're in the Dakota's,

1646
01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,559
Speaker 1: you just get that arctic blast that comes straight down

1647
01:18:59,640 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 1: from Canada, and yeah, you get stuff like that. You

1648
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: get stuff like that, in the Northeast, but it usually

1649
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:06,519
Speaker 1: has worked its way through the Midwest and then it

1650
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: moves kind of east, so you get a little bit

1651
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:10,639
Speaker 1: sometimes you get the northeasters, but when it comes from Canada,

1652
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:11,880
Speaker 1: by the time it gets to you, it's a little

1653
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: bit less. You get that full frontal from Canada. You

1654
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You get it's.

1655
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:20,760
Speaker 2: Cold kid here. I mean, it's like, no hope, no

1656
01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,000
Speaker 2: joy cold. All right, you know what I'm saying, Luke,

1657
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,639
Speaker 2: it's it's it's something. But hey, Luke, I found out

1658
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:30,479
Speaker 2: they they have they only shut down the brothels on

1659
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:33,719
Speaker 2: Main Street in Deadwood as recently as the nineteen eighties.

1660
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: Luke, how sad are you that you missed out an opportunity?

1661
01:19:38,040 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm not sad at all. You know what I say,

1662
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,240
Speaker 2: You know, Luke, I would I did say this to

1663
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 2: to my fellow boxing heads in the in the in

1664
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 2: the Twitter DM thread that I'm always on Luke, just

1665
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,679
Speaker 2: spitting game that you know. I know it's not saying much,

1666
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 2: but your boy would have cleaned up in Deadwood, all right,

1667
01:19:56,439 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 2: all right, I'm just like, I know it's not saying

1668
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 2: a lot, Luke. Okay, because the pickens are slim here,

1669
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 2: but you know, like a dog, like a male dog

1670
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,840
Speaker 2: that just needs to like piss and you know, and

1671
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,640
Speaker 2: lay it out everywhere, just to let people know. I

1672
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:12,480
Speaker 2: gotta let you know, Luke. You know, no AGETSI, Connecticut

1673
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: is not an exact equivalent of Deadwood by any means.

1674
01:20:15,320 --> 01:20:17,759
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, I've seen this place before.

1675
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 1: Could you could you find someone who how do I

1676
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:28,720
Speaker 1: say this? How can uh? No, I can't say that.

1677
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,880
Speaker 2: I can't. You can't. I was saying if I was

1678
01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 2: the same, if I were a single man, Luke, of.

1679
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 1: Course, if I told you couldn't find someone at a

1680
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: bar who either had a they had to have no

1681
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,760
Speaker 1: tattoo and or gun and all their teeth not.

1682
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,360
Speaker 2: No, it's the first two is not. The third is

1683
01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,560
Speaker 2: optional maybe, but the first two it's not possible. It

1684
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: just isn't. It's just not possible.

1685
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 1: So are there bars? Do people go to bars? I

1686
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:51,799
Speaker 1: guess in the casino, right the casino?

1687
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like it's literally not a joke. Every single place

1688
01:20:56,200 --> 01:21:00,280
Speaker 2: of business is a tiny casino with a bar in

1689
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,519
Speaker 2: the back, and half of them have a steakhouse connected

1690
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 2: to it. It's just it's just but Luke, you know,

1691
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 2: I was doing a little Deadwood history reading, you know,

1692
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 2: in my in my odd time. And you know, remember

1693
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 2: back not too long ago, when only Atlantic City and

1694
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,759
Speaker 2: Las Vegas were the two legal places you could gamble

1695
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 2: in our country, Deadwood became the third. So that's a

1696
01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 2: bit part of why there's literally a casino everywhere here.

1697
01:21:26,479 --> 01:21:28,800
Speaker 2: But Luke, I will say this though, the whole ride

1698
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,400
Speaker 2: from Rapid City to Deadwood, there's a casino at every

1699
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,280
Speaker 2: gas station, at every like insurance business has a little

1700
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 2: wing of a casino connected to it. It's it's so

1701
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 2: in your face, like we not only want as a society,

1702
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 2: we need you to get addicted to gambling. That's what

1703
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:44,000
Speaker 2: it's saying, Luke.

1704
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 1: Okay, if you listen to anything on sports radio these days,

1705
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,559
Speaker 1: that's all it is is just you know, free money here,

1706
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,760
Speaker 1: free money there, gambling here, gam here. People love it, dude,

1707
01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,599
Speaker 1: people love it. It's funny though, that you could make

1708
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:57,640
Speaker 1: like a gambling oasis in South Dakota and people are

1709
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: still like, I'll wait till it's legal every where. It's

1710
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,559
Speaker 1: I llegal everywhere else before I to go there.

1711
01:22:05,200 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 2: Luke. I walked by the bar last night where they

1712
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 2: claimed that wild Bill Hitcocks was killed Luke in a

1713
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 2: poker game. It was the only time history says that

1714
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 2: he was unable to get the chair with his back

1715
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: to the wall, Luke in you know the hand that

1716
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 2: what they call the dead man's hand that he had

1717
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: at the time of the killing. Luke, mm hm aces

1718
01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 2: and eights baby.

1719
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 1: Ooh, all right, he was doing something with it. Too bad.

1720
01:22:29,960 --> 01:22:32,679
Speaker 1: He didn't see the turn card on the river, I'm.

1721
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: Saying, you know. And apparently Calamity Jane did some damage

1722
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,280
Speaker 2: chair as well, Luke. I could only imagine what she

1723
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,000
Speaker 2: what kind of calamity she caused? All right, Luke, Uh hey, Luke,

1724
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: it's happy. What do you want to talk about?

1725
01:22:43,640 --> 01:22:47,040
Speaker 1: You know nothing. Everyone wants us to see Batman, but

1726
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to see it. Like, well,

1727
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 1: how much of a priority is that for you when

1728
01:22:50,439 --> 01:22:50,920
Speaker 1: you get back?

1729
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 2: Okay, it's not normally a priority because, as you know,

1730
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't really go after this type of

1731
01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:01,440
Speaker 2: movie that the whole new superhero genre rebirth action extravaganza,

1732
01:23:01,479 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 2: even though I did in the eighties and nineties. Follow

1733
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 2: when Batman came back Michael Keaton and threw you know,

1734
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,880
Speaker 2: mister Freeze, Arnold Schwarzenegger and all that. But Luke, is

1735
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,920
Speaker 2: it true that it's Robert Pattinson that is doing the

1736
01:23:14,360 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 2: honors this time? Okay? That gets me Hella intrigued because

1737
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 2: he was in that movie called Good Time, made by

1738
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 2: the Saftie Brothers who also did Uncut Gems with Adam

1739
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,320
Speaker 2: Sandler and Dude, that movie is gritty as shit. And

1740
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 2: I know, obviously he's a decorated actor in other areas

1741
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 2: that I haven't watched, but watching him in Good Time,

1742
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, Luke, if he brings some of

1743
01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:40,040
Speaker 2: that that grime to the Batman role, I could be

1744
01:23:40,120 --> 01:23:42,639
Speaker 2: swayed to. Now that you can watch first run movies

1745
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,240
Speaker 2: at home on your damn streaming system, Luke, you used

1746
01:23:45,240 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 2: to have to go into a barber shop and purchase

1747
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 2: an illegal DVD that was filmed by somebody in the

1748
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,200
Speaker 2: back corner of a theater. Luke, I've purchased those before

1749
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: I bought what do you kra? So yeah, I think

1750
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:01,240
Speaker 2: I will get involved. What do you know, Luke, about

1751
01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 2: the plot or the style of it being filmed? How

1752
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 2: will this new Batman change things?

1753
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 1: The only thing I know is that the people who

1754
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: are like really into comic books, the ones who read like, like, oh,

1755
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 1: I'm into comic book noir, where it's really become some

1756
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,840
Speaker 1: kind of other art form. They think this is one

1757
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: of the best, if not most realistic depictions of Batman,

1758
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:23,800
Speaker 1: and it's like, fine, I mean, I'm gonna see it,

1759
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 1: and I'm sure it's good, But I keep making this.

1760
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: It's like every generation they just want Batman to be

1761
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:32,599
Speaker 1: darker and grittier. And at some point it's like, how

1762
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: dark is he supposed to be? I guess we'll figure

1763
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 1: that out. That's the only thing that sort of stands

1764
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: out to me.

1765
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he could be a dark hero in the

1766
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 2: vein of Han Solo, the original episode four depiction of

1767
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:47,320
Speaker 2: when he shot first Luke, you know what I'm saying.

1768
01:24:47,320 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 2: He's just a grimy mofo oh who could live for

1769
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: a good cause if it made sense. I think the purity, though,

1770
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 2: of the of the Bruce Wayne Batman character, though Luke

1771
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 2: has never been really all that nefarious, right, I.

1772
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: Mean yeah, And I guess there's also I guess the

1773
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: one criticism of Pattinson's I guess he plays one of

1774
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 1: the well, it's the same guy, but he plays one

1775
01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 1: the two characters better than the other. I guess he

1776
01:25:09,439 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 1: either plays Bruce Wayne better or plays Batman better then

1777
01:25:12,439 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 1: he plays the other. I guess there's a bit of

1778
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,680
Speaker 1: a divergence there, but I haven't seen it, so I

1779
01:25:16,680 --> 01:25:18,400
Speaker 1: can't say. I will say this though, BC. Did you

1780
01:25:18,439 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: see the new trailer for the ben Kenobi or Obi

1781
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,639
Speaker 1: Wan Kenobi Disney Plus show that he just just came out.

1782
01:25:26,760 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet, but Luke, I'm gonna be

1783
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:29,719
Speaker 2: all over that shit.

1784
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 1: Okay, It's amazing and I can't wait to see it.

1785
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,720
Speaker 1: And if anything was good about the first well not

1786
01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: the first three, but the prequels, it was obviously you

1787
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,799
Speaker 1: know Ewan McGregor and the way he played that character.

1788
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:43,559
Speaker 1: But you know, dude, you know you're hiding out from

1789
01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,439
Speaker 1: the Empire and your name is ben Kenobi and it

1790
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,920
Speaker 1: used to be obi Wan. It's like the worst fucking

1791
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,840
Speaker 1: alias I've ever heard in my life.

1792
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 2: Kenoby is like Smith in Tattooine. I mean, come on, Luke,

1793
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:55,479
Speaker 2: all right, you know what I mean?

1794
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: And I guess it's like, oh, I'm ben Kenobi. You mean,

1795
01:25:58,000 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: look you're the obi Wan. No, no, no, no, I've

1796
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 1: never heard of that. Oh I'm you know, I don't

1797
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:04,360
Speaker 1: dress like him in any way. I'm just a very

1798
01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: different one. Oh really fucked? Is that what you're doing?

1799
01:26:07,280 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Did you end up watching any of the

1800
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:16,480
Speaker 2: the much maligned Bubba Fett series that the medium overrated

1801
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 2: piece of show, But my son Isaac says it's awesome

1802
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 2: and I must watch to catch up to him.

1803
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 1: Luke so a buddy of mine, A buddy of mine.

1804
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: I asked him about it, and he said that actually,

1805
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,800
Speaker 1: the uh sort of the other characters in the show

1806
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 1: are actually would make it and not so apparently there's

1807
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 1: a like a Wookie who's a main character and all

1808
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 1: this shit. Okay, I'm down for that. Bulba Fett is

1809
01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:41,400
Speaker 1: one of these guys who everyone's like, Oh, he's super cool,

1810
01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: and then you're like, why is he's super cool? You're like,

1811
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,920
Speaker 1: you can't really pinpoint any clear, defensible reason. He just

1812
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: looks kind of cool, but he's not even a real

1813
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: Mandalori and you'll fuck that guy. I didn't watch a

1814
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: single second of that, Luke.

1815
01:26:52,640 --> 01:26:57,240
Speaker 2: I think you glazed over much too quickly. The the

1816
01:26:57,280 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: anger I had upon watching the New Dune and Theater

1817
01:27:00,479 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 2: and realizing how much George Lucas like blatantly stole from

1818
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: it to form the culture and the story arc and

1819
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:12,759
Speaker 2: everything what made us fall in love with the first trilogy,

1820
01:27:12,800 --> 01:27:15,800
Speaker 2: and it's specifically the first two movies four and five.

1821
01:27:15,880 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 2: Luke that I mean, it's like finding out that, like,

1822
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 2: you know, they lied to you all these years and

1823
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,880
Speaker 2: that man isn't really your father? Did you end up

1824
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 2: seeing that new?

1825
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 1: Dude?

1826
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 2: I forgot? And do you like but this old bitch

1827
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,439
Speaker 2: George Lucas, who we already blame a lot of ruining

1828
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 2: our fandom on, I mean, he stole this shit.

1829
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Luke. I know you were very upset when you first

1830
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: saw it, you know, with seventy eight thousand milligrams of

1831
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: Delta A gummies and your belly at the movie theater,

1832
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 1: and you were very determined to tell me about it.

1833
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you. But it's also just like, dude, start like,

1834
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: what will this revelation do? Undo? Star Wars. It's so

1835
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:00,679
Speaker 1: cast into the fabric of everything that like a revelation.

1836
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: You're so right, I mean, it clearly borrowed any extraordinary amount.

1837
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: It's too late, dude, it already blew up. It already

1838
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 1: reached the hearts and minds of little kids, generations over.

1839
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:13,479
Speaker 1: At this point, it's it's in there. Dune just has

1840
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 1: to be a fucking sorry second as a consequence.

1841
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:20,000
Speaker 2: Oh look, speaking of blatantly stealing things, did you do

1842
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,599
Speaker 2: you see those dogs? I don't even know what their

1843
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 2: show is called, but like they went on that like

1844
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:27,479
Speaker 2: four day Twitter rant against you for stealing their bingo

1845
01:28:27,600 --> 01:28:30,559
Speaker 2: card joke, and then apparently we stole like fifty other

1846
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 2: comedy segments from them. Look, I'm sure it's a great shot.

1847
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know who I don't even know

1848
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: who these people are. And it's the sad, It's it's

1849
01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:44,080
Speaker 1: genuinely sad that someone thinks X event on why numbered

1850
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,680
Speaker 1: bingo card which everyone uses as a regular phrase all

1851
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:50,280
Speaker 1: the fucking time. I've never even heard of these people.

1852
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,320
Speaker 1: I don't have time to pay attention to podcasts that

1853
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: nobody else does, so you know, I mean they think

1854
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 1: they think that's stealing your congrats, I guess that you're

1855
01:28:58,080 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: you've uncovered some amazing I.

1856
01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,679
Speaker 2: Mean, there could be a podcast out there that uses

1857
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,400
Speaker 2: balls bonanza as a regular catchphrase, and you know, could

1858
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 2: it be linked to me stealing I don't know. I

1859
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 2: didn't hear it, Luke.

1860
01:29:07,680 --> 01:29:09,840
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, trust me when I tell you, I have

1861
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 1: very limited time, and I don't spend it watching whatever

1862
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 1: the fuck that is.

1863
01:29:13,600 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 2: You spend it watching Twoki, Luke, that's what you do, Okay.

1864
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 1: That's right, watching Park.

1865
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 2: I know you get very emotionally invested in buying yourself

1866
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 2: new technological advancements in your filming, and I know that

1867
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 2: you're very excited about the new studio that you've began.

1868
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 2: Can you give us an update on you know, how

1869
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:37,800
Speaker 2: much more you can do with it? And like, like,

1870
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,439
Speaker 2: what's the coolest part about having this space now?

1871
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:43,120
Speaker 1: Trying to figure out how to use it right now?

1872
01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:44,840
Speaker 1: Right now, I haven't figured out how to use it

1873
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:49,599
Speaker 1: at all. It's a lot of nothing is ever easy,

1874
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: Nothing is ever easy. So it's nice to have the

1875
01:29:51,840 --> 01:29:54,720
Speaker 1: whole entire complex. Is great because there's everything you need

1876
01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: in that giant building that we're in, So that part's

1877
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:01,479
Speaker 1: pretty cool. But the problem is getting all of I

1878
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 1: have to have gear for home and now gear for there,

1879
01:30:04,000 --> 01:30:05,320
Speaker 1: so I mean I have to get some more gear

1880
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 1: put over there, and it's just there's a logistical challenge there.

1881
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: Shooting there has its own series of logistical challenges. It's

1882
01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm very early in the process. It's it's not off too.

1883
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna take a while before I can

1884
01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:17,479
Speaker 1: really leverage it.

1885
01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,400
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I want to see it become money for you, Luke,

1886
01:30:20,439 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 2: as you would.

1887
01:30:20,920 --> 01:30:23,960
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, well, believe me, I would like to as well,

1888
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: because I'm fucking spending money over there.

1889
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:29,040
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, look, you gotta spend money to make

1890
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:29,840
Speaker 2: money in this game.

1891
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 1: Okay, that is true, that is absolutely true. But at

1892
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:33,759
Speaker 1: the same time, it sucks.

1893
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 2: So all right, all right, look, are you following the

1894
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 2: NBA season in any form?

1895
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,920
Speaker 1: I watched the Philly fans heckled a shit out of

1896
01:30:44,920 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons last night, Yes, only for the Nets to

1897
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:50,519
Speaker 1: kind of embarrass them a little bit. I did watch that.

1898
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,280
Speaker 1: And then you know, with the Wizards, Beal is out,

1899
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:56,679
Speaker 1: so whatever, but they dropped fucking shithead Davis Berton's who

1900
01:30:56,720 --> 01:30:59,200
Speaker 1: is no good or at least wasn't for us. And

1901
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:02,599
Speaker 1: but now they're saying Bill might go. Now they're saying

1902
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,960
Speaker 1: Bill might go to Philly in the offseason. So you know,

1903
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,880
Speaker 1: it sucks to be a ThEC sports fan all the time.

1904
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,120
Speaker 2: Luke is one of the odds that James Harden ends

1905
01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:11,880
Speaker 2: up playing on the Bullets next year, Wizards Luke next.

1906
01:31:11,800 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: Year, Low Low. No one wants to come here. It's

1907
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 1: still worse fucking super Low. But yeah, porzingis look pretty good.

1908
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:22,840
Speaker 1: You're brethren, right, Dude.

1909
01:31:22,960 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 2: I have not been following this season as close as

1910
01:31:25,120 --> 01:31:28,360
Speaker 2: I would want to, But dude, John Moran highlights are

1911
01:31:28,479 --> 01:31:29,160
Speaker 2: just insane.

1912
01:31:29,960 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 1: I mean, can you remember he was He was like

1913
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,920
Speaker 1: clearly the number two in college relative to Zion. Zion

1914
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:39,519
Speaker 1: came out of Duke that same year, being like the guy,

1915
01:31:40,160 --> 01:31:42,880
Speaker 1: and Zion has kind of over there in New Orleans

1916
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: and John Moran, Dude, every day I open my phone,

1917
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 1: there's a new Jah Morant head above the ram fucking

1918
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 1: posterizing slam. He is the most electric player in the

1919
01:31:52,520 --> 01:31:54,400
Speaker 1: NBA right now. It seems that way, right, you know.

1920
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: You're damn right. And you know how like every year

1921
01:31:56,880 --> 01:32:00,680
Speaker 2: there's usually like two highlight real moments that sort of

1922
01:32:00,720 --> 01:32:03,920
Speaker 2: like cement in your mind what that year was.

1923
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:04,040
Speaker 1: Like.

1924
01:32:04,040 --> 01:32:05,800
Speaker 2: You see Jordan go up against the Lakers and put

1925
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:07,479
Speaker 2: the ball up and then switch angle like ninety one

1926
01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,000
Speaker 2: ninety one finals right there, you know what I mean?

1927
01:32:09,160 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 2: You see Vince Carter do some of those windmills. You're like,

1928
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 2: oh shit, that was his second year, you know, two thousand,

1929
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 2: when he was just taking his game to the next level.

1930
01:32:17,479 --> 01:32:19,800
Speaker 2: John Morant, like you said, has like one of those

1931
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 2: moments every single night. I mean, did you see it

1932
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 2: with four tenths on the clock. He caught the full

1933
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,559
Speaker 2: court pass and put it in and he's just like

1934
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,920
Speaker 2: jumping over these people, Luke. I mean, it is just ridiculous.

1935
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: He's challenging the seven footers at the rim, the point

1936
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 1: of contention is at the rim, and then winning. He's

1937
01:32:38,080 --> 01:32:40,080
Speaker 1: he is a fucking athletic miracle.

1938
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 2: The pound for pound athleticism right now in the NBA

1939
01:32:43,320 --> 01:32:46,160
Speaker 2: is just I mean, you know, it's finally sort of

1940
01:32:46,160 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 2: comparable to the NFL, which always had just the you know,

1941
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 2: the quick twitch, fiber assassins in there, just the freaks

1942
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:56,519
Speaker 2: of nature. Dude. It's changed the game, along with the

1943
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,760
Speaker 2: the improvement of long range, accurate three point shooting, which

1944
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 2: is just you know, mixed with the handcheck rule around

1945
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:05,160
Speaker 2: in the mid two thousands change and opening up the

1946
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 2: floor and Steve Nash becoming your MVP. I mean, look,

1947
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 2: that's the beginning of the cycle change to get away

1948
01:33:11,080 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: from the cloggy defensive late nineties, and it's increased scoring

1949
01:33:16,640 --> 01:33:18,400
Speaker 2: and done a lot of different things and you know,

1950
01:33:18,479 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 2: remove the need for positions. It's done a lot of things,

1951
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,160
Speaker 2: and I don't think a lot of great things. But

1952
01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 2: I'm also that old curmudgeonty nineties fan, you know, eighties

1953
01:33:25,880 --> 01:33:32,560
Speaker 2: and nineties fan. But like, I feel like the athleticism

1954
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:38,360
Speaker 2: is too far though. It's like maybe the nineties were

1955
01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:43,679
Speaker 2: the perfect storm of like fundamental team game mixed with oh,

1956
01:33:43,720 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 2: we figured out how to be like world class, ridiculous athletes,

1957
01:33:46,439 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 2: but yet where the balance was still there. Luke, I

1958
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:51,960
Speaker 2: really just don't love today's game with its dependence upon

1959
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,400
Speaker 2: the three ball, and it's it's you know, am I

1960
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 2: just such a love of pick and roll and high

1961
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 2: post and all that shit? Or you know what what

1962
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:02,679
Speaker 2: am I missing? Luke? I mean the games are as exciting.

1963
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 2: I watched the playoffs. They're exciting.

1964
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: You're missing, You're missing twenty years of being an old bitch.

1965
01:34:09,439 --> 01:34:09,719
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1966
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,719
Speaker 1: Back in my day, they played basketball a certain way,

1967
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: and now they play it a different way. I mean,

1968
01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm not here to say that, Like I like the

1969
01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,600
Speaker 1: current game as much like the old game. So for

1970
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: whatever that's worth, I share your sentiment. But you know,

1971
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: first of all, it ain't going back. It is baked

1972
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 1: in now. It is just like there's back.

1973
01:34:27,960 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 2: You don't mean there's going to be a cyclical effect

1974
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 2: where seven foot post up games will become a thing

1975
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 2: again in two three years?

1976
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,439
Speaker 1: Does it take a new shutters are shooting behind the arc.

1977
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:37,800
Speaker 2: I know you're shooting behind the.

1978
01:34:37,880 --> 01:34:40,799
Speaker 1: Arc like I don't. Maybe, but it's hard to see

1979
01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 1: how they would limit them more again. I mean, I

1980
01:34:43,520 --> 01:34:46,519
Speaker 1: guess everyone's gonna have changing roles over time. But in

1981
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 1: the case of in the case of like the old game,

1982
01:34:48,400 --> 01:34:49,840
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I like it better. But like dude,

1983
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: we're old. No one gives a shit what we feel.

1984
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 1: It's hard to divorce the romantic past of your youth

1985
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: from I do some assessments of what what's good my

1986
01:34:57,120 --> 01:34:57,519
Speaker 1: once a.

1987
01:34:57,479 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 2: Week old guy hoops. You know, I don't only league

1988
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 2: that I pay to play in, Dude, I mean, it's

1989
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,280
Speaker 2: all nineties basketball, dude, you know in eighties back. I

1990
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,720
Speaker 2: mean it is all pick and roll boast up. I

1991
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 2: mean there is no if I don't look at all

1992
01:35:11,720 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 2: like today's game, like I coached my son's like sixth

1993
01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 2: grade basketball team a couple of years ago, and dude,

1994
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: they're all trying to be Steph Curry and it's like, Okay,

1995
01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:19,519
Speaker 2: I get it. You know, none of them can shoot

1996
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 2: a lake, but they're shooting from twenty five feet just constantly. Yeah.

1997
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,200
Speaker 2: I like that. There's still a haven, Luke, you know

1998
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,479
Speaker 2: for old guys like me to enjoy what we love. Luke,

1999
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 2: howse what age do we end up going to the

2000
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,760
Speaker 2: same coffee shop every single day and ordering the same

2001
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:36,080
Speaker 2: thing and talking to the same people. Is that reserved

2002
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,519
Speaker 2: for when you're like seventy or can that happen earlier?

2003
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,720
Speaker 1: No? Late thirties, early forties? No?

2004
01:35:42,439 --> 01:35:42,799
Speaker 2: Really?

2005
01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, depending on your situation, Yeah, for sure.

2006
01:35:46,200 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, because that's.

2007
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: A neighborhood type of joint.

2008
01:35:48,920 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, Luke. I hesitate to talk music with you

2009
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 2: because it's gonna end up, you know, being some type

2010
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:58,200
Speaker 2: of talk about you know, satanic metal and why won't

2011
01:35:58,240 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 2: I join you at a concert and all that shit.

2012
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 2: But look, I know you better than they do, and

2013
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:08,320
Speaker 2: you are a decent, decent music fan behind that. Are

2014
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,280
Speaker 2: you listening to anything new? Have you purchased anything new

2015
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:18,240
Speaker 2: separate from the genre of hard ass, aggressive kill anti

2016
01:36:18,360 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 2: Jesus rock that you're that you're just you know, putting out.

2017
01:36:21,520 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 1: There all right, anti Jesus rock. Uh No, I mean

2018
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:30,000
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit more Latin music since coming back

2019
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:32,240
Speaker 1: from vacation, a little bit more trying to get a

2020
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:34,320
Speaker 1: little more into that to work on some things.

2021
01:36:34,400 --> 01:36:37,240
Speaker 2: What artists should should are if we if there are

2022
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,760
Speaker 2: any MK fans that like a little Latin music, Luke,

2023
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,000
Speaker 2: what artists are you focusing on?

2024
01:36:41,200 --> 01:36:43,160
Speaker 1: I don't have a good read. I'm a big fan

2025
01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: of Bad Bunny. You know again, I let me be

2026
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 1: clear about this. I don't have a fucking idea what's cool,

2027
01:36:48,520 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 1: especially on that side of the world. But I do

2028
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:52,360
Speaker 1: like Bad Bunny a lot. I listened to some older

2029
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:58,559
Speaker 1: stuff on Seca, Carlos Vives, Jorge, Cela Dawn. Who else

2030
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:01,839
Speaker 1: am I listening to a little bit of modern stuff

2031
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,160
Speaker 1: Fruco Silvestre.

2032
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:08,599
Speaker 2: Dude, you're all in man. So would you say your

2033
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 2: music intake is like fifty percent death metal and fifty

2034
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 2: percent Latin right now?

2035
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,240
Speaker 1: No, I would say it's like forty percent death metal,

2036
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:19,759
Speaker 1: forty percent like hardcore rap, and then twenty percent. Latin

2037
01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 1: music probably is about the way I would put it.

2038
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:24,439
Speaker 2: Oh wow, I thought you're gonna add twenty percent. What's

2039
01:37:24,479 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 2: that movie called that you watch all the time, Contigue

2040
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:36,280
Speaker 2: Debbie does violent Throat Lovers. Yeah, the damn in Coanto.

2041
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:37,960
Speaker 2: I thought maybe in Kanto would fill that.

2042
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:42,200
Speaker 1: Okay, so look at Throat Lovers. Maybe after the show,

2043
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 1: that sounds interesting.

2044
01:37:43,600 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 2: Maybe we can't talk about music together, Luke. I mean,

2045
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:48,280
Speaker 2: it's fine, it's what you're going after. I'm not telling

2046
01:37:48,280 --> 01:37:53,479
Speaker 2: you to follow me down the seventies, you know, progressive rock, jazz, fusion, Rabbit.

2047
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 1: I never will Cat Steve limit our our.

2048
01:37:56,640 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 2: Our conversation ability Stevens. It's possible, Wow, Luke, you haven't.

2049
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:05,479
Speaker 2: I mean, like, okay, this will answer thing. Because if

2050
01:38:05,479 --> 01:38:08,640
Speaker 2: you said, BC, which do you have serious XM? I

2051
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,960
Speaker 2: do always when I'm driving, I listen to it. What

2052
01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 2: are my you know? Can you only get what sixteen

2053
01:38:14,600 --> 01:38:17,800
Speaker 2: Preceps or whatever, eighteen Preceps stations? But the four or

2054
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:23,520
Speaker 2: five that I'm hitting right away, Luke, are nineties on nine,

2055
01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:30,720
Speaker 2: the Bridge, Classic, Rewind Classic, Vinyl and Lithium to get

2056
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,920
Speaker 2: you know, those those alternative rock in there. Luke, what

2057
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 2: what are you going to like? You have no roommate

2058
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,479
Speaker 2: at all for cool music right now in your life

2059
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,200
Speaker 2: or heart I have.

2060
01:38:42,680 --> 01:38:44,760
Speaker 1: I have played room for cool music, just not your

2061
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 1: kind of music.

2062
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 2: Okay, So what are your what are your presets right now? Then?

2063
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:50,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know their channels, even though I worked

2064
01:38:50,439 --> 01:38:51,920
Speaker 1: there for a long time. I would probably have some

2065
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:56,639
Speaker 1: political talk, news, some news I would have in there.

2066
01:38:56,680 --> 01:38:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not going not getting any better, Luke, not getting.

2067
01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:03,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would what it's their metal channel, like their

2068
01:39:03,160 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 1: hardcore metal channel.

2069
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 2: They got a lot of Ozzie's Boneyard. They got some

2070
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 2: weird ones.

2071
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:08,880
Speaker 1: The one, Yeah, I probably put that in there. I

2072
01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:10,719
Speaker 1: probably put Shade four five.

2073
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:14,120
Speaker 2: Not jam On. I rock jam On all the time.

2074
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:17,320
Speaker 2: You don't know jam On, Oh it's jam band music.

2075
01:39:17,320 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 2: But three eleven, Luke, is is yacht rock? The yacht

2076
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:21,759
Speaker 2: rock channel. I'm all over that too.

2077
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, I'm not doing that at all.

2078
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, I know, Luke, it's I could. I know

2079
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,719
Speaker 2: your personality. I know now how it's fueled, Luke.

2080
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,320
Speaker 1: So you can call this, we can call this, dude.

2081
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:36,160
Speaker 2: You know, happy hour to me is is it's a

2082
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:40,720
Speaker 2: free flowing conversation. It's a podcast where we only talk

2083
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:42,920
Speaker 2: about the podcast. Luke, Okay, you know what I mean.

2084
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: It's a it's great, all right. I guess we can

2085
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 2: go now. Thanks. Thanks. Uh check it out tonight nine

2086
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:49,759
Speaker 2: thirty five PM.

2087
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 1: Have fun tonight, BC, Have fun. Hold, here's what I

2088
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:55,519
Speaker 1: want to know. Tell me about your itinerary home. How

2089
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: do you get there?

2090
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,160
Speaker 2: Oh, dude, this would be brutal. This is be brutal.

2091
01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 2: I fly from rapid City to Minneapolis. Then I have

2092
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:06,040
Speaker 2: a five and a half hour layover before I can

2093
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 2: fly to Hartford in Land after midnight. And oh, by

2094
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:11,559
Speaker 2: the way, that night in Harford, Luke, it's something called

2095
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 2: a bomb cyclone, which is a aggressive storm, snowstorm, windstorm hitting.

2096
01:40:17,720 --> 01:40:20,240
Speaker 2: So you know what city will I end up spending

2097
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,439
Speaker 2: the night on Saturday? Look, I'm not really sure to

2098
01:40:22,479 --> 01:40:23,799
Speaker 2: be fair, Okay, are.

2099
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 1: You gonna put a picture of the check that they're

2100
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,559
Speaker 1: gonna cut you for this, like as the background to

2101
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:30,440
Speaker 1: your phone? So when you're sitting for five hours in Minneapolis,

2102
01:40:30,439 --> 01:40:32,320
Speaker 1: you're like, you know what it's all worth that?

2103
01:40:32,360 --> 01:40:34,360
Speaker 2: I here's the thing though, I did tell my producer

2104
01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:36,600
Speaker 2: Richie gone love that guy. I said, give me. I

2105
01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 2: want give me, give me the showbox experience. Take me

2106
01:40:39,160 --> 01:40:41,960
Speaker 2: to Sloan in Iowa. Take me to Broken Airrow, Oklahoma.

2107
01:40:42,040 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 2: Get me into deadwood and rub deadwood all over me. Okay, Luke,

2108
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:48,240
Speaker 2: So is it always a comfortable journey. It's a challenge, Luke.

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Speaker 2: But the best things in life, including you know, our marriages,

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Speaker 2: my friendship with you is often a challenge. Luke.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, just don't die. That's all I'm asking.

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Speaker 1: Please don't die.

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Speaker 2: You know, my wife actually, legitimately on the phone the

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Speaker 2: other day gave me like a you know you you

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Speaker 2: like to run your mouth a little, just be careful,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's don't don't get shot. And I was

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Speaker 2: just like, oh ha ha. She's like, no, I'm serious, Okay.

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Speaker 1: Your wife, Your wife understandably worries about you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. There it is, There it is, And that's your show.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to Corey Miniach, Gaffney, Pierre, Mikey Moore, Mile

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Speaker 2: and crew on the ones and twos here behind the

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Speaker 2: scenes getting it done for us, Luke. No, no, no

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Speaker 2: Saturday night specials this week.

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Speaker 1: Right, I have to cover a bellator for HQ, so

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Speaker 1: I don't think I'll have a post fight show. But

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Speaker 1: if I can squeeze one in, I will, So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but you and I will be returning to the

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Speaker 2: the old bomb shelter as it is that our brand new,

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Speaker 2: fantastic new set. Uh next week, Luke, So we're gonna

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Speaker 2: have not only live MK, We're gonna have some bonus surprises.

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Speaker 2: There banks some great content. Uh. There's rumors, Luke, you

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Speaker 2: and I may end up in South Florida not too

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Speaker 2: long after that. Hey, Luke, I may come to your

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Speaker 2: house this spring.

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Speaker 1: There is a real possibility there might be BC does DC,

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Speaker 1: and if he does, it's gonna be epic. So I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping that you actually make it down and we can

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Speaker 1: we can have some fun.

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Speaker 2: The future is bright. Thank you to Malco, Showtime, CBS Sports.

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Speaker 2: Here's our socials like follow, subscribe. If you listen on

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Speaker 2: audio only, please please you know audio Apple Podcasts wherever.

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Speaker 2: I'll give us that five star review. It really really

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Speaker 2: does help on the back end, if you will to

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Speaker 2: our award winning hopes. I know voting closed on that

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Speaker 2: second award. I don't know if we want it, Luke,

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Speaker 2: that we were getting the people to get to get

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Speaker 2: our back and vote. Thank you to everybody who did.

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Speaker 2: We'll find out what happens with that one. And uh,

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Speaker 2: I think that's it. Mornycombat Dot Store get your special

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Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day merch right now, Luke, final word goes

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Speaker 2: to you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I'll get a tattoo in South Florida. Would you

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Speaker 1: go with me if I got one?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely go with you. But like, how long would

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Speaker 2: they let me sit in the eighth throw before they'd

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Speaker 2: accept uh by lack of pain tolerance to allow me

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Speaker 2: to get a tattoo under those circumstances.

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Speaker 1: None of you don't have to. You can just watch

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Speaker 1: me get one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, we'll get the dock cameras out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is this is good coming.

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Speaker 1: I might do it for Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: My name is Brian Campbell. I mean the thing about

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Speaker 2: Gains though, Luke, I'd love if they could stay loyal.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean. That's I mean, there's you know,

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Speaker 2: that's what we all wish. I'll tell you what them

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Speaker 2: hose am oyo. I'll tell you that much. But Gains uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, thank you guys for watching. Take care of this, guys,

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Speaker 2: all right, put your mental health First, we're getting through

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Speaker 2: this winter. We're almost out of it. Love you for

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Speaker 2: the LT, the b C, the MK. Two words yeah,