Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey you guys,
Speaker 1: we are back with another episode of nine O two one.
Speaker 1: Mgre here, we're here. We're all here. We're all here, besties,
Speaker 1: We're here. I wish we were like here, like but
Speaker 1: we're I know. But soon we're planning our special trip.
Speaker 1: You know we are. We're having a special trip. The
Speaker 1: girls getaway together all together. Are going to believe it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, which is crazy perfect. We're going to
Speaker 1: sit an apartment just Red, can we have free free
Speaker 1: spot treatments the whole weekend? Oh my gosh, I'm freaking
Speaker 1: out because my best everything. We started planning our trip
Speaker 1: like two or three weeks ago before this episode. We're
Speaker 1: going to Montecito, Oh gosh and nuts. So wait, wait,
Speaker 1: so you guys are probably wondering what we're talking about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so much. What are we talking about, Amy, Oh, well,
Speaker 1: you mean our little secret trip. Well, we're talking about
Speaker 1: because this episode there, well you'll you'll see you'll hear
Speaker 1: um or if you watched it, it involves spa treatments
Speaker 1: and the girls going away for the weekend. And we're
Speaker 1: actually doing that. But we had planned that before we
Speaker 1: watched this episode, which Amy probably already knew about. But
Speaker 1: as you know, Jenn and I had no idea just coming,
Speaker 1: maybe so consciously, but Danielle, our other producer, we planned
Speaker 1: it and we want to go to Santa Barbara because
Speaker 1: Tory and Jenny have this awesome idea. They're gonna get
Speaker 1: together and we're gonna They're gonna watch the episode and
Speaker 1: then we'll film you guys watching it so you see
Speaker 1: how they actually react during when they're really rewatching people.
Speaker 1: Some people will be able to watch it. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: figure out how they'll be able to see it too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're transforming the Bob. So we picked Manac though totally random,
Speaker 1: just because it was like, oh, we'll be able to
Speaker 1: get there. Everybody can come, And I forgot this whole
Speaker 1: episode is about a trip to Montatotito. It's meant to
Speaker 1: be before Montatito was even in to go to I
Speaker 1: think like like thirty years ago, like did people travel
Speaker 1: to Montecito? Didn't you guys travel to man like? Grown up?
Speaker 1: For me? Yeah, where was that? Where did you film that?
Speaker 1: It was the Monta Sito, That's what it was. It
Speaker 1: was the Montatito, but it was no like monta Cito,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't Roads, but it wasn't four seasons, it
Speaker 1: wasn't Wait, so you really went to some days called
Speaker 1: the Monto that was fictional? Where was I we? Why
Speaker 1: don't we talk? Why don't we tell everybody about the
Speaker 1: episode of the well? Get into the It's true. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's do this Season three, episode eighteen, Midlife. Now what
Speaker 1: air January? It sounds like a tagline to my life. Synopsis. Brenda, Kelly,
Speaker 1: and their mothers Cindy and Jackie, as well as Donna
Speaker 1: and Andrea, enjoy a good life for the weekend and
Speaker 1: a posh health spa the Montecito until Brenda overhears a
Speaker 1: conversation about Kelly's stepdad's unfaithfulness to Jackie. Meanwhile, Jim questions
Speaker 1: his midlife crisis with his secretary Dotty. Dylan finds two
Speaker 1: separate fantasies about a future with Brenda and Kelly not fulfilling. Also,
Speaker 1: Brandon starts gambling on basketball games with Nats bookmaker Duke.
Speaker 1: Directed by Robert Becker, written by Atlanta Freestat Melman and
Speaker 1: Chip Johansson' married to Jeff Melman, one of our directors.
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. You don't have you know,
Speaker 1: just two Melman's on a show and not be related.
Speaker 1: Probably not. Well, what do you think of the episode? Overall?
Speaker 1: I really like this one? You did? I did Amy
Speaker 1: ten out of t I loved ten time out of time.
Speaker 1: This is one of the best episodes. Even the dumb
Speaker 1: flash forward with like Gray, those are the best parts.
Speaker 1: The show has like four four significant storylines, and aside
Speaker 1: from one of them, I was there for all the rest.
Speaker 1: Now I'm not going to be into bookmaking and like,
Speaker 1: you know, gambling book the gambling and Duke and like
Speaker 1: what I mean, let's talk about that one first, since
Speaker 1: it's basically not a storyline. It's just like a little
Speaker 1: dangly carrot like something coming with Brandon and gambling and
Speaker 1: do you know who the guy is that's playing the
Speaker 1: like bookie? Okay, So do you guys know that song?
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure I'm right on this. So do
Speaker 1: you remember that song from Family Ties when like Alex p.
Speaker 1: Keaton and Ellen fell in love and it was like,
Speaker 1: what did you think that guy that's saying that is
Speaker 1: Billy Vera. Billy Vera, and Billy Vera played the Bookie
Speaker 1: it comes back. Yeah, And is he going to sing? Nope,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Damn. He's just gonna take brand,
Speaker 1: hopefully down a torrid road of gambling. Wow. I really
Speaker 1: wanted to develop into something because now it's just nothing
Speaker 1: and like, oh, well you guys, yeah, Brandon's going to
Speaker 1: have a real problem. Well yeah, that's that's very nine
Speaker 1: O two one. Oh. As we know when you dangle
Speaker 1: something that could be an addiction. It happens on Nile
Speaker 1: and dangling another. Jenny's lots of dangling going on there.
Speaker 1: Do you know what happens to you? I feel like
Speaker 1: I do know what's coming? Yeah? Uh, you know what's
Speaker 1: coming is the storyline that people have talked about for years.
Speaker 1: It's coming, It's coming. It's the diet pills, right, the
Speaker 1: diet pills, diet bills. Yeah, because they think Kelly, I
Speaker 1: know what you guys are talking about and I don't
Speaker 1: remember it, but problem. But I feel like there's some
Speaker 1: foreshadowing going on for Kelly with body image issues. What
Speaker 1: kind of a hotel is this? Because they have the
Speaker 1: worst employees. I'm gonna work on your problem whole time.
Speaker 1: Have problem areas to a teenager? What like and then
Speaker 1: the other employees just like outing people's affairs loud, yeah,
Speaker 1: and like gossiping same story to just all the people
Speaker 1: that come there for a massage. So it's so bad
Speaker 1: that her coworker literally puts her little Walkman headphones on
Speaker 1: so she doesn't have to hear this BS anymore. Okay, wait,
Speaker 1: should we go back? And even like you, I'm not,
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the beginning. Yes, okay, the girls
Speaker 1: go on a spa we again to the I thought
Speaker 1: I was like beginning. Okay, it was Jenny and I
Speaker 1: met and when I walked in, I was like, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm touring. Well, first of all, really quick, Steve's shirts
Speaker 1: are now buttoned back up to the top, which it like,
Speaker 1: what's the nit with the one button? No, I don't.
Speaker 1: It looks like he can't breathe so tight. And the
Speaker 1: gum the gum is back. I didn't seem opening scene
Speaker 1: brand Um. This is funny because I just watched a
Speaker 1: movie with my kids. You know, my passion for Tom
Speaker 1: Holland and I know I'm old enough to be his mother,
Speaker 1: but UH love him from Spider Man, so uncharted this
Speaker 1: movie and that was his thing? Like is that a
Speaker 1: thing like cool young guys, Like he was like chewing
Speaker 1: on his b yeah, And I was like it reminded
Speaker 1: me of Brandon And I was like, Okay, I guess
Speaker 1: is it like the blad pit how he was just
Speaker 1: always eating in Ocean's eleven. I mean maybe it was
Speaker 1: a conscious choice for ten years for a character to gum.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Wait, you think Jason chewed gum for
Speaker 1: ten years? When you guys to be a Brandon choice,
Speaker 1: it's going to have to be consistent for it to
Speaker 1: be like a thing. I feel like it's not going
Speaker 1: to be consistent. I feel like it's a one season wonder.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like maybe it's because he had onions
Speaker 1: for lunch? You just made me puke in my mouth?
Speaker 1: No one thinks it's n I don't want to be
Speaker 1: like outing anybody, but like you don't think it was
Speaker 1: some kind of nickera. Oh yeah, because he used to smoke,
Speaker 1: so maybe it was, you know when people need that
Speaker 1: thing in their mouth. Besides during a scene, like wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been okay to spit it out right before, like
Speaker 1: after rehearsal even, and it's and it's like he chomps
Speaker 1: on it and it was back on the bus. Remember
Speaker 1: when you guys a couple of weeks ago went to
Speaker 1: the school for Christmas? Back everyone. I feel like it
Speaker 1: was a choice. All right. Well maybe someday, if we
Speaker 1: ever talked to him again, we'll get to ask him.
Speaker 1: Write that down, Okay, But who wouldn't want a free
Speaker 1: weekend at the spa? Moms are paying, let's go sign
Speaker 1: me up. They definitely called it a health spa, which
Speaker 1: was very nineties, a healthy spot. How was it healthy?
Speaker 1: I mean, it was so crazy when like, because I
Speaker 1: feel like in the eighties they called it a fat farm.
Speaker 1: Amy they totally call it a fat farm. Because my
Speaker 1: mom used to always say She'd be like, I'm going
Speaker 1: away to the fat farm, and I'd be so scared.
Speaker 1: I would be like, first of all, my mom didn't
Speaker 1: need to go to any kind of fat farm, but
Speaker 1: like that was the thing to do. And she would
Speaker 1: go away for a weekend and they would do all
Speaker 1: these treatments. It was a thing like what's the one
Speaker 1: and it's like in Palm Springs and there's the green
Speaker 1: the green one she used to go to. I was like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would drive to it and just stay there and
Speaker 1: they're on a calor account. They do calonics, they do
Speaker 1: massages and like they get you to lose weight. They
Speaker 1: still have one like we care when my very aisen
Speaker 1: laughing so hard this laughing. I remember in the eighties,
Speaker 1: like it was the very era, Like my mom had
Speaker 1: bright red painted nails and like ladies were wearing fur coats.
Speaker 1: It's very dynasty fur coats, Rolex watches. And then like
Speaker 1: I would say like, oh, we're so and So's mom.
Speaker 1: Oh she went to the fat farm for the weekend,
Speaker 1: and it was like what, like that's what they called it.
Speaker 1: I prefer wellness retreat. Yeah, but then I've seen too
Speaker 1: many movies with wellness retreats where they go and then
Speaker 1: they like lobotomize you so or it's a horror movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's very nineties to segue to the health Spad's
Speaker 1: like my Girlfriends and the health Spa. You think people
Speaker 1: like teenagers watched them. We're like like maybe that was
Speaker 1: big in l A or something, but like I can't
Speaker 1: imagine all over the United States. People are like, oh,
Speaker 1: yeah they were probably it definitely looks like woo indulgent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it except the hotel looked like a Hilton a business,
Speaker 1: Yeah it was. It was that Was that even a hotel?
Speaker 1: Like what what was that big room where they're like
Speaker 1: when they're checking in and everybody's like lounging on the
Speaker 1: couches and they haven't even gotten any massages yet. I
Speaker 1: think it was. Can you guys scan your brains at
Speaker 1: all to figure out where you were? I was googling
Speaker 1: it last night. I honestly don't even remember filming that episode.
Speaker 1: So I said to myself, you would think I would
Speaker 1: remember being completely submerged in a bubble of a bathtub
Speaker 1: full of mud with three other girls that I never say, nothing, no, no, nothing,
Speaker 1: like I I did the same sort of like hell,
Speaker 1: like did have your body in a mud bath? On?
Speaker 1: What I like about you? I remember that. I do
Speaker 1: not remember this. It's so crazy. You did it twice? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so funny. Um, And all I could think is, nowadays,
Speaker 1: you would never do that. That's how unhealthy, Like that's
Speaker 1: so disgusting that mud bath at and like did they
Speaker 1: treat it each time? I was like, yeah, they probably didn't.
Speaker 1: People just got in one after another, like and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want mud up up my parts? Oh you're right,
Speaker 1: Well you probably don't. I mean, yeah, I could get
Speaker 1: up there. What I think about it? We it looked
Speaker 1: definitely like a hotel, though, because it did, I don't
Speaker 1: think they recreated that or built that, because it was
Speaker 1: clearly a hotel lobby with the reception desk and then
Speaker 1: like the locker room with the locker like where were
Speaker 1: you guys? You know what? I reminded me and Jen
Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't because that was in Vancouver. It reminded
Speaker 1: me of the reboot, that that business hotel. We were
Speaker 1: supposed to do our convention at right, I thought you
Speaker 1: were going to say it reminded you of the time
Speaker 1: when we went to get our nails done and Musso
Speaker 1: Pete on the couch. It was like which which time?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, sweet mouth so pean on, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: In the nail salon. They were so nice about it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: be Pete on the cushion. He literally cocked his leg.
Speaker 1: We both had our dogs with us because they had
Speaker 1: traveled to Vancouver. We had to get our nails. Then
Speaker 1: we were shooting the next day and they sent us
Speaker 1: to this like this nice spot. It was a SMA
Speaker 1: like and they did our nails in the section and
Speaker 1: had cushions and they were bringing a champagne and he
Speaker 1: cocked his leg on one of their cushions and they
Speaker 1: pretend and Canadians are so nice. They were like, what's fine.
Speaker 1: I was like, there's a scene with Jackie and Cindy
Speaker 1: in the kitchen, everybody's getting ready to go, and they
Speaker 1: talk about Brenda and Kelly, which I thought was like
Speaker 1: really fascinating they acknowledge, like, oh, thank goodness, they're on
Speaker 1: speaking terms. And then the one of the moms goes
Speaker 1: until Dylan makes his choice. I thought like, oh, whoa
Speaker 1: even the mom know about this ridiculous situation. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: fact that they know made me like, it made me
Speaker 1: scared a little bit because it just took me back
Speaker 1: to when I was a kid that like you didn't
Speaker 1: want your mom to ever hate the guy you dated,
Speaker 1: because that would be it. Like once they knew something bad,
Speaker 1: they missed, you know, weren't nice to you. Like, is
Speaker 1: Cindy Walsh going to be okay with Dylan? Like I
Speaker 1: can't imagine. That's major. I just was like, oh, wow,
Speaker 1: these the moms totally know what's up. I just like that. Again.
Speaker 1: This episode has Kelly and Brenda like being friends and
Speaker 1: having that fun friend energy, and then we get to
Speaker 1: see all four girls together, and I love when the
Speaker 1: show does that. I do too, except there's one moment
Speaker 1: where I thought Brenda, like Kelly was really struggling and
Speaker 1: Brenda was like, come on, Kelly, like we're going to
Speaker 1: the spa, and I was like, that's not very like
Speaker 1: SENSEI Well, I've out there that you know, when you're
Speaker 1: you're best friends with people and you're close with them,
Speaker 1: you can kind of be snippy or snappy sometimes and
Speaker 1: they don't take it personally and you can talk to
Speaker 1: them in a way you probably people other people that
Speaker 1: hear it might be like ikes, But yeah, sure we'll discuss.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do like them. I like the all
Speaker 1: the four of them. But the thing that the whole
Speaker 1: like energy of this storyline kind of made me feel weird,
Speaker 1: like insecure, almost like it was a lot of women
Speaker 1: versus women and a lot of comparing in this episode,
Speaker 1: a lot of like very odd stereotypes of like like
Speaker 1: even Dylan's fast forward flash forward whatever we call it,
Speaker 1: where one of the wives is just like popping out
Speaker 1: babies and then the other one is just Kelly just shopping, shopping, shopping, shopping,
Speaker 1: spending all the money that the man was making. I'm like,
Speaker 1: it was not it was not pc Like it wouldn't work. Now.
Speaker 1: It made me laugh just because I thought, like Luke
Speaker 1: was so funny and yeah he looked funny, Branda like
Speaker 1: it was just I don't know, it was just funny. Um,
Speaker 1: it was totally entertaining. But I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that wouldn't you would never write that down. No, but
Speaker 1: but it was like a lot of like body comparisons
Speaker 1: going on and then and then that just sort of
Speaker 1: became a through line for the whole episode with Jim
Speaker 1: in his midlife whatever and Dottie and just I've always
Speaker 1: since the beginning of this whole Dottie storyline, I've always
Speaker 1: been like, why is Brandon at home talking about Dottie
Speaker 1: the way he's talking about her and they just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, it just feels like they are objectified
Speaker 1: Dottie so meanly, like I mean, me really uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this one I was really like, I don't know, the
Speaker 1: whole Brandon of it all being like yeah, go Dad
Speaker 1: like really offended me because I was like, whoa, Like
Speaker 1: God forbid something happened and Jim left his mother, like
Speaker 1: how would he feel about for his mom? And like
Speaker 1: he'd be like cool, dad, she's hot. Yeah. Like it
Speaker 1: actually offended me, I guess because I have boys. I'm
Speaker 1: like I would want them to like support me, like
Speaker 1: and he was just like yeah, dad, get it. He's
Speaker 1: all very inappropriate. Now we're like, oh god. And then
Speaker 1: how Jim tells the doctor the midlife Now what doctor, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm having feelings or I think about her and I
Speaker 1: think she's coming on to me, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: oh God. I was thinking, is this another one of
Speaker 1: his fantasies, because please let it be that he's speaking
Speaker 1: like this about Dottie. And also sweet and Sour baby Lamb.
Speaker 1: That was one of my favorite lines. Same for me,
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what Jim Walsh eats his favorite
Speaker 1: thing is sweet and sour baby Lamb. First of all,
Speaker 1: isn't baby Lamb? Like, isn't Lamb a baby? Anyway? No? Wait,
Speaker 1: asking the wrong girl. I don't know. I've eaten a
Speaker 1: lot of Chinese food and I've I've never seen a
Speaker 1: lamb on a Chinese menu or baby Lamb, baby Lamb.
Speaker 1: But that was supposed to be like a wink wink
Speaker 1: to like a baby lamb, like a lamb, like hot
Speaker 1: deer in the headlights, kind of like a young like
Speaker 1: is he taking advantage of her? She's taking amage of him,
Speaker 1: and she's the proudest and and he's just then innocent baby.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was like a metaphor
Speaker 1: for something or just or just a Chinese dish that
Speaker 1: somebody one of the writers liked. I don't know. And
Speaker 1: do we think Cindy would really be nervous about Jim.
Speaker 1: I didn't like jealous Cindy, I gotta tell you, Like
Speaker 1: Andy has always been so strong and classy and like confident,
Speaker 1: you know, just secure, And I didn't. I didn't care
Speaker 1: for this Cindy being all jealous and concerned about her husband.
Speaker 1: But it's like it's human. I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's anyone that doesn't get jealous a little bit
Speaker 1: even true, even though they do have a good marriage.
Speaker 1: And you wouldn't think although I think if Dottie would
Speaker 1: have gone for it with Jim, Jim would have done it.
Speaker 1: I M all the way though, No, but like he
Speaker 1: would have made it a little bit like he's still
Speaker 1: emotionally mentally went to a place that wasn't very respectful
Speaker 1: of Cindy. That's true, but as a man's fantasy, it's
Speaker 1: not cheating. It's just true. I just think if you guys,
Speaker 1: if Dottie would have Jim, do you think Jim would
Speaker 1: have kissed back? Yes, well he did in his fantasy. Well,
Speaker 1: she was great at doing hurt that role. She was
Speaker 1: burned him at the end, like when she's like kissing
Speaker 1: it was weird. Yeah, but then she's like, I to
Speaker 1: quit because my boyfriend proposed by We've had asked Jenny
Speaker 1: about her best kiss? Who was yours story all throughout
Speaker 1: nine o two on? Now? I mean, I'm assuming I
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna say, but like, give us maybe
Speaker 1: number two. I was like, please don't say that again,
Speaker 1: give us number two? Who was the second best? Oh?
Speaker 1: It was? It's probably because it was like every girl's fantasy,
Speaker 1: including mine, Like it was a dream sequence that Dylan
Speaker 1: had and he kissed Donna. So I got to kiss
Speaker 1: Luke in his scene and I was like, oh, dying,
Speaker 1: like of course, everyone, Oh, I love it. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I I just went Jim. Earlier in the in
Speaker 1: that story when Jim does the math in his head
Speaker 1: and he adds, I got a little excited. It was
Speaker 1: sexy us. She was, Yeah, I might not like what's happening,
Speaker 1: but I still love the gym. Speaking of math, I
Speaker 1: was trying so hard to figure out were Jim and
Speaker 1: Cindy our age now then? Or were they older old
Speaker 1: older that they seemed older too? Okay, thank god? And
Speaker 1: I don't feel probably able to figure it out. But
Speaker 1: it's just gonna take me in my calculator because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out, like did they ever make
Speaker 1: a reference to how old they were? How old were
Speaker 1: they sur venders? That's throwing me. I'm gonna go with older. Well,
Speaker 1: and this is super crazy, but like have you ever
Speaker 1: seen those things? I mean they talk about it with
Speaker 1: the um golden girls and the sex and the city ladies,
Speaker 1: that like what fifty looked like then is nothing what
Speaker 1: fifty looks like now. And I saw one the other
Speaker 1: day of like, um, what the Jefferson's like their age
Speaker 1: compared supposed to be? What I saw was Jamie Fox
Speaker 1: played George Jefferson and that like Jimmy Kimmel thing. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about and then the real
Speaker 1: Sherman Hensley who played they were the same age, and
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox looks so much younger, So it's a kind
Speaker 1: of weird, like people look younger now at the same
Speaker 1: age as is crazy. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think when we all heard Girl, I think we
Speaker 1: all heard about the Golden Girls thing that they were
Speaker 1: what I still you can't believe that's true. That actually
Speaker 1: made me feel real good about myself. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: lie because there's a lot of things we watched that
Speaker 1: make us feel really old, like that was like I
Speaker 1: feel like TikTok had that wrong. Like I'm not sure that,
Speaker 1: but don't you think they were like gussieing up the
Speaker 1: Golden Gals to make them look old? Yes, because that
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. They lived in Florida, And I
Speaker 1: don't know because like Rue McClanahan did they aged her
Speaker 1: up because she was supposed to play like the mother
Speaker 1: but she was actually younger. That was a stelle Getty.
Speaker 1: Sorry my bad. We love to do the math on
Speaker 1: that too. It's gonna take me a minute. You're not
Speaker 1: like Jim, you can't do it in your head. But
Speaker 1: Jim said in this when he was talking about midlife,
Speaker 1: he said he acted like he was past midlife. He
Speaker 1: said he made a reference of age like midlife, like
Speaker 1: oh had life, because now we think of midlife being fifty,
Speaker 1: but maybe then it was like forty or something if
Speaker 1: people didn't live as long. I don't know. Wait, if
Speaker 1: midlife is fifty, that means I have to live to
Speaker 1: be a hundred. That's what And plus no, I went out,
Speaker 1: what do you mean? We always talked about the rocker scenario.
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting in a rocket by myself. I'll sit
Speaker 1: in a rocker tomorrow with you. I don't need to
Speaker 1: be a hundred. I'm not. That does not sound fun.
Speaker 1: No offense to anyone that's listening. That might be a hundred.
Speaker 1: But I just audience for me. I'll go, I'll go
Speaker 1: for Wait, you guys, I'm jumping around a little bit.
Speaker 1: But how classic was Steve when he talks about the
Speaker 1: party in the palaceades. Yeah, but nobody ever goes to
Speaker 1: the party. It's just fizzled for nothing, for nothing. I
Speaker 1: didn't get it. I was wondering, like if that one
Speaker 1: came from my dad, because in that time, like my
Speaker 1: actual like high school friends. They were always going to
Speaker 1: parties in the Palisades. That's what we would do, I
Speaker 1: mean Palasades. Who doesn't want to see a party in
Speaker 1: the Palisades? You would. So it's so random that was
Speaker 1: in there, and I was like, did he just add
Speaker 1: in these little things that he would be like, probably
Speaker 1: like that's my daughter's life. But well, because they do
Speaker 1: make those l A references. Sorry, my top is a
Speaker 1: little low here today. But uh, I think Dylan to
Speaker 1: say I don't want any more girls, like I've got
Speaker 1: enough problems, which gets us to him pensively, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: of that that storyline with Dylan can't decide between Kelly
Speaker 1: and Brenda, then he just he sits in the same
Speaker 1: spot in the peach pit for the whole episode, contemplating
Speaker 1: and listening to the same sad music and book. This
Speaker 1: episode was just the peach pit and the mont. A
Speaker 1: lot of money on this episode when the Montecito looked
Speaker 1: like it could have cost them some do lars, you know,
Speaker 1: because on the rest, Yeah, I think the Walsh House
Speaker 1: got used a couple of times. I was I feel
Speaker 1: like the mud bath room and the spa treatment rooms,
Speaker 1: those were all set so they'll like build that specifically
Speaker 1: for this episode. I remember. The only thing I really
Speaker 1: do remember is the shower scene when we come out
Speaker 1: and the hair that me and I'm like, why did
Speaker 1: I have to be the sucker with the wet hair hair?
Speaker 1: And you were so cold freezing? But I remember that
Speaker 1: scene being on set. Yeah, definitely on set. Really. I
Speaker 1: have a vague recollection of the tub full of mud
Speaker 1: being on set and I remember, uh, we were in
Speaker 1: it and we couldn't move because the mud would slash around,
Speaker 1: and like they didn't want it to look messy. I
Speaker 1: just remember that was like a thing because there's four
Speaker 1: of us in there and the but the mud was
Speaker 1: just a perfect level. There was no like splashed out
Speaker 1: mud anywhere. How did that happen? Because what were we wearing?
Speaker 1: They used to have like back then, Like there wasn't
Speaker 1: spinks and stuff back then, but they used to have
Speaker 1: like nude things that you would wear, like when they
Speaker 1: were doing like love scenes, so you would be like
Speaker 1: covered under the sheets and stuff. Yeah, it's like new
Speaker 1: tube and handies. But like I can, I was probably
Speaker 1: wearing boxers under their I don't think I would ever
Speaker 1: war in one of those nude body suits they gave you.
Speaker 1: They would always put those in your dressing room. You're like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing that. Let's talk about that, Bay Jenny,
Speaker 1: that's what your initial thought. Does not like Babs the
Speaker 1: moment she sees her, She's like, has you know like
Speaker 1: PTSD over Babs because represents a really dark time for Jackie. Jenny.
Speaker 1: I did think very subtle, but we knew immediately expression
Speaker 1: something's going down. And that's how I am in real
Speaker 1: life too. You know, the instant with me, like if
Speaker 1: something's going down in here, you're going to see it
Speaker 1: on here. Oh my gosh. It's true. The minute you
Speaker 1: see her meet somebody, you know exactly how she feels
Speaker 1: about I wish I could hide it, like I try
Speaker 1: so hard, but you're honest, like there's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 1: But it's like being her friend for years, I've seen
Speaker 1: that look and I'm like, uh, backstory here, what's going on?
Speaker 1: That look was real because I knew you did not
Speaker 1: care for Babette right away, and I didn't know why.
Speaker 1: I actually I couldn't remember. And then you tell Brenda
Speaker 1: quickly that's how my mom got drugs. I didn't know
Speaker 1: it was what was coming. I just I saw Kelly's
Speaker 1: reaction to bab and I knew that it was. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know Kelly pretty well, so I knew that Kelly
Speaker 1: was like thinking, oh, this is the drug, A drug
Speaker 1: like a connection to Jackie's bad. I've obviously never done drugs.
Speaker 1: But what's a tute? Did she say something about it?
Speaker 1: Did she say? Did I get that right? That she's
Speaker 1: like a little too? Yeah? Is that she said? I
Speaker 1: do a toot here and there? That's a fart, you
Speaker 1: guys reference, Yeah, that's in our house. We never said
Speaker 1: the f word, not the other one, right, Never, it
Speaker 1: was always toot. She has cute words for things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I swear I wrote down she did you take just
Speaker 1: a little spoonful and like that? Not that I know?
Speaker 1: I don't like you have spoons? For a minute, may
Speaker 1: I ask you this, Dylan spoons spoons? Did you guys
Speaker 1: knows Dylan's stirring his coffee at the peach pit and
Speaker 1: the spoon what? What the heck? Did you guys notice
Speaker 1: remember something? I don't know that the one he knocked
Speaker 1: the coffee on him. Yeah, the at one point he's
Speaker 1: storing the coffee thing, and the spoon was crazy. It
Speaker 1: was as if he Dylan was so stressed about his
Speaker 1: big controversy in his head between the two girls that
Speaker 1: he bent the spoon. I don't remember this part, do
Speaker 1: you remember, am? I is this Luke that I'm thinking of?
Speaker 1: I remember he had like a party trick where um,
Speaker 1: it might not have been Luke, might have been one
Speaker 1: of my husband's, umr, one of my husband stopped. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure. It gets all a little foggy in there
Speaker 1: if anyone listening missed that, Jenny literally just it might
Speaker 1: have been Luke or it might have been one of
Speaker 1: my husband's. Like continue, well it gets confusing, amy, okay, um,
Speaker 1: but like okay. So so there's like spoons on the
Speaker 1: table when you sit down right, and they would take
Speaker 1: the spoon off the table and under the table they
Speaker 1: would break the spoon, so now there was one broken spoon,
Speaker 1: and then they would take another, the other spoon that's
Speaker 1: not broken, and then they would say, look, my mind powers,
Speaker 1: and they would put the put the half of the
Speaker 1: other broken one in their hands somehow and convince you
Speaker 1: that they were breaking the top of the spoon off,
Speaker 1: and you'd be like, oh my gosh, you're so powerful
Speaker 1: with your mind powers and then would snap off and
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't really I don't know. Okay, so this
Speaker 1: is working because I know what you're talking about and
Speaker 1: I witnessed it. I don't remember if it was Luke,
Speaker 1: but it definitely wasn't one of your earlier husbands. I
Speaker 1: don't remember them having good tricks like that, but I
Speaker 1: feel like maybe it was because then this spoon thank
Speaker 1: this whole gag with the spoon bending the spoon makes sense,
Speaker 1: like that was probably his choice. Yeah, I definitely remember
Speaker 1: that spoon trick on set. Let's talk about Babette Jackie.
Speaker 1: Jackie finding out about Mel cheating, which did come back
Speaker 1: to me. I was like, oh, yeah, this is really
Speaker 1: it's going to be real. Yeah, Mel moves out. I think,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I had this hope. I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: next episode we're going to find out it wasn't true.
Speaker 1: Because Jackie says, maybe they can work it out. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I was like, no, I think they
Speaker 1: don't remember what happened. That this is this is a
Speaker 1: thing because obviously like Mel didn't come home, like what's
Speaker 1: going on? But wait, we don't have proof hearsay allegedly,
Speaker 1: the massous lady says, uh, you know some fancy oral surgeon.
Speaker 1: The housekeeper says, no, he confirmed he didn't come home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't come home. David didn't do a bed check.
Speaker 1: There was some great lines in this episode. Two go
Speaker 1: a little cranky because he's studying so hard. I guess
Speaker 1: he's kind of cranky throughout the whole up out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: imagine talking to talking like that about like, oh, my
Speaker 1: best she got together with her best friend and you know,
Speaker 1: and then the poignancy of that for Kelly and Brenda
Speaker 1: as they're getting massaged, like thinking, oh, that's our story
Speaker 1: she's talking about and she says the name, She's like,
Speaker 1: he's like a oral surgeon, Dr mill Silver. And then
Speaker 1: you're just like what my favorite part of the massage
Speaker 1: seen where the camera work in this episode was great.
Speaker 1: I wait, you liked those bodies pans up the feet
Speaker 1: onto the people on the exercise machines. Uh no, they okay, fine.
Speaker 1: I liked it only because the first one I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what was coming, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at those games and I was like, it's me.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, and then I was like, oh god, sweet, yes,
Speaker 1: that's what my it used to look like. And then
Speaker 1: I had a moment. But in the massage scene, you
Speaker 1: both are kind of length flat getting your massage, and
Speaker 1: I loved your face and that because I was like,
Speaker 1: look at that, like nowadays we'd be like we're not
Speaker 1: doing that angle, Like like your face was all subquishing
Speaker 1: and everything, and I was like, oh, you were so
Speaker 1: young that no matter what angle you put your head out,
Speaker 1: you look perfect. And it was so impressive because you
Speaker 1: didn't care. Back when you didn't care and you just
Speaker 1: gonna do anything. And you're like, looks good. Mh. I
Speaker 1: remember caring back then too, but not about that angle,
Speaker 1: not about right, what about the arms? He really wants
Speaker 1: to talk about the story. I can't. I can never
Speaker 1: because of what Jenny said about her arms. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: I didn't notice it though, by the way, I did
Speaker 1: not notice it, but your arms are perfect. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: thought you meant like arms because now Jen and I
Speaker 1: like we don't want arms stuff because it's like hers
Speaker 1: are better than mine. But like, I can't see my
Speaker 1: mom used to call. My mom used to say, and
Speaker 1: when you hit a certain age, a woman never waves
Speaker 1: because wave goodbye, arms, wave goodbye, and I'd be like,
Speaker 1: that's crazy, and then I'd be like, hope that never
Speaker 1: happens to me. And then it's like, Hi, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I do about that though I've been trying my weights work.
Speaker 1: Got to use the dumbbells five pounds I haven't. It's doable,
Speaker 1: Like I could still say, salvage this right. Wait, did
Speaker 1: you guys not hear it from no, get rid of this? Fine?
Speaker 1: Somebody can do someone can do something. Nowadays, you can
Speaker 1: do something about everything that doesn't matter. Did you guys
Speaker 1: not hear the line when David says I didn't do
Speaker 1: a bed check and then Kelly says that what or
Speaker 1: Brenda says that was like pulling teeth? Well, his dad
Speaker 1: is a dentist. Did you guys not hear that? Didn't
Speaker 1: hear that? That's a good one senior's line of all time?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I laughed out loud. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just the whole Like, let's talk like when Kelly's
Speaker 1: starting to get insecure about her body because they went quick.
Speaker 1: It went a problem area problem areas to counting calories,
Speaker 1: to talking about bulimia, like it was just whoa a lot.
Speaker 1: I don't know, because really confident girl, like I did
Speaker 1: never really see this coming. No, no, but that's the
Speaker 1: tough thing that I always feel like, you know, obviously
Speaker 1: they map out where the stories are going to go,
Speaker 1: like I wish they would trickle things in a little
Speaker 1: bit sooner. Suit It's not one episode all of a
Speaker 1: sudden she's insecure. We've never seen her be insecure better
Speaker 1: body right, or maybe like clue the actors in along
Speaker 1: the way, like through the episode, so then you can
Speaker 1: ramp up for that, you know, emotionally, like play some
Speaker 1: stuff in so it doesn't come. So it feels like
Speaker 1: they're doing the exact same thing with the gambling eating
Speaker 1: eating disorder thing and the gambling thing, and we know,
Speaker 1: oh we're headed for trouble. Didn't bug you. I didn't
Speaker 1: love it. I'm not gonna lie. I thought it was like,
Speaker 1: this doesn't track like I mean when I watched it,
Speaker 1: I watched that young girl, the real person acting like
Speaker 1: playing that role and having to say, like, you know,
Speaker 1: it just made me like feel bad for Jenny, for myself,
Speaker 1: like my young me, because you know what, life is
Speaker 1: hard enough, this business is even harder on your you know,
Speaker 1: mental well being and your confidence and there's so much
Speaker 1: rejection and all the things that go with life in
Speaker 1: general nowadays, and just having that like reinforced in me
Speaker 1: at such a young age. Oh my god. There's so
Speaker 1: many times when I'm watching this show and I'm like,
Speaker 1: no wonder, no wonder. I have hang ups and issues
Speaker 1: and have had therapy for so long, like it's all,
Speaker 1: it all's coming back, Like I see it, I see
Speaker 1: the happening. Do you do you remember how you felt
Speaker 1: when you read that script that that was happening? Were
Speaker 1: you like why me? Like why am I the one
Speaker 1: that's like? You know? Because that's what I was thinking
Speaker 1: when I was watching in the locker room, because you
Speaker 1: have a beautiful body. But I was like, gosh, like
Speaker 1: I was young too, Like if I had gotten that storyline,
Speaker 1: I would have been like, wait, is something wrong with
Speaker 1: my legs? My butt? Like why am I getting this storyline?
Speaker 1: You know? And they're no reason. But did you feel
Speaker 1: that way? I'm sure I did. I'm sure I internalized that.
Speaker 1: That's on a lot of levels, just like I internalized
Speaker 1: the whole this is a cheating episode, all men? Chi.
Speaker 1: This for me was like what this line there's a line.
Speaker 1: Later I tagged it as like, not my favorite line,
Speaker 1: but my favorite stand a line. Why to min cheat?
Speaker 1: Why isn't one woman ever enough? And not just sears
Speaker 1: through me even just saying it now, just it's so
Speaker 1: upsetting that this young girl, those those young girls Kelly
Speaker 1: and Jenny had to stand there and say something and
Speaker 1: internalize it and you know it because it sort of
Speaker 1: soaks into your fibers of your beliefs mhm. And it's
Speaker 1: I'm like, whoa that is Jim's cheating, Meles cheating, Dylan cheating?
Speaker 1: What messages are we sending? Like? And then now I
Speaker 1: don't know, I guess at some point the show really
Speaker 1: does change and start to become more about, like I mean,
Speaker 1: more topic. You know. We we always did topics like that,
Speaker 1: like and tried to show both sides of it, but
Speaker 1: I just feel like this episode specifically was like, well,
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of negative messaging coming heavy m yeah,
Speaker 1: and sister, it's just beginning for you. Oh great, Like
Speaker 1: poor Kelly, the stuff that she went through over ten years.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, yeah, this episode in particular, And I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would have noticed it back then the
Speaker 1: way I noticed it now the eating disorder, the drugs,
Speaker 1: the cheating, the and then sort of like very female stereotypes,
Speaker 1: very male stereotypes even like midlife now what Like it
Speaker 1: was all like WHOA still super enjoyable to watch, Like
Speaker 1: I love the episode, but it was like I loved
Speaker 1: it, it it was really fun, but it was right a
Speaker 1: super inappropriate episode, like it's fun to watch, but like
Speaker 1: it's kind of giveing fs with your mind. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: before we have to go. There was a couple of
Speaker 1: things I thought were so funny. I think someone at
Speaker 1: the hotel was mentioning maybe it was Babette the celebrities
Speaker 1: that come to the hotel, and it was like share
Speaker 1: Shell Phillips and Lonnie Anderson. I was like, play the
Speaker 1: name check back. Then those were the girls that was
Speaker 1: like j Lo and whatever. I don't know, and then
Speaker 1: Kelly had on the love Boat but yeah, well share
Speaker 1: on the love Boat that one. I go. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was some good fat shin going on, especially Jackie was
Speaker 1: there was there a good fashion because I saw another
Speaker 1: g D floral vest on Andrea right out of the
Speaker 1: gate and socks, thick thick socks with the sneaker the
Speaker 1: strenchy socks. Weren't those weren't those called Eric? Wasn't the
Speaker 1: brand name of those Eric? I don't know why. That's wow,
Speaker 1: I don't know, pushy, I don't know. But they came
Speaker 1: back here and I tried to wear them, and she
Speaker 1: was back. Oh. Jim was in a lot of plaid,
Speaker 1: a lot of plaid, and then Brenda rock to the
Speaker 1: Gingham at the end of this was a big sweater
Speaker 1: episode for Jim. I actually wanted that orange sweater. He
Speaker 1: was wearing. Dylan Moore the iconic brown jacket again, so
Speaker 1: we are seeing that, like the brown jacket, very fifties,
Speaker 1: Like whenever you're at the peach Bit, you're like, I
Speaker 1: don't even know what decade I'm in. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: Jackie brings it though she always brings the nineties fashion show.
Speaker 1: I like the workout outfits. I feel like your workout video.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, this Spandex was on fire. I feel
Speaker 1: like I could do three episodes about this episode. Did
Speaker 1: you guys have any other favorite lines? Um I liked
Speaker 1: Andre saying I feel like a piece of sushi, although
Speaker 1: she's never had sushi, but now I know what it
Speaker 1: feels like, right, And I was like, oh, that's so nineties.
Speaker 1: I guess, like sushi was just taking off then, Like
Speaker 1: it wasn't in yoga, Like, yes, there was a shout
Speaker 1: out to yoga. It was like all those things that
Speaker 1: were kind of that we are like, oh, that's our
Speaker 1: every day now, But it wasn't that in then. Um
Speaker 1: Donna saying I ate a hole loaf of bread. That
Speaker 1: whole scene. That whole scene gave me a little PTSD
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, it's true. I was a
Speaker 1: bottomless pit. Then I had how metabolism. There was a
Speaker 1: shout out to the environment, which I thought was, oh,
Speaker 1: we've had those before, though, I feel like a few times,
Speaker 1: especially with the Dylan surfing. Yeah, they definitely were like
Speaker 1: conscious of a lot of things Jim can do. Math
Speaker 1: I'm just looking through my notes. Were you as excited
Speaker 1: when Dylan were the suspenders as you are when Jim
Speaker 1: wears them? I just have to ask m M. I
Speaker 1: didn't have the same reaction. I've got to be honked.
Speaker 1: But I did really like the like poofy belly. They
Speaker 1: made him kind of like a little pound sheet there
Speaker 1: in the tummy area, but like rode up when he
Speaker 1: had the kids. They had six kids, Brenda and Dylan
Speaker 1: in his dream had six, well one on the way,
Speaker 1: so five kids for exacting one. And I was like
Speaker 1: Brenda coming down the stairs holding a baby, holding wallpaper
Speaker 1: and wearing a pregnancy pad. I was like wow. And
Speaker 1: all I kept thinking is like gosh, they were trying
Speaker 1: to do something so far fetched, like they have, like
Speaker 1: what a ridiculous amount of kids? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I wonder, Like my dad never met my children, But
Speaker 1: I wonder then if you had told him, like, by
Speaker 1: the way, your daughter will end up having five kids,
Speaker 1: he'd be like, what's every day at your house? Really fast?
Speaker 1: Is there significance to that license plate on the wall
Speaker 1: that says b K eight nine eight five it's in
Speaker 1: the peach pit and b K eight It might be
Speaker 1: for a later day, but I made nine what eight
Speaker 1: five black license plate b K eight nine eight five.
Speaker 1: We'll have to inquire, Yeah we can. Fans stay tuned
Speaker 1: for the don't you think Darren will No? Wait, we're saying, oh,
Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, we've covered it, but I could
Speaker 1: go on and on. That's your territory, so add that
Speaker 1: to your list. Ask Darren m you know somebody has
Speaker 1: that license plate. And I'm sure somewhere Martin, I bet
Speaker 1: you Darren Martin, Oh our Darren, asked Darren Martin. I
Speaker 1: think you met Darren Starr. Darren Martin will know. Okay,
Speaker 1: who's Darren Martin. He's like the number one. He's known
Speaker 1: as the Keeper of the Code, and he has a
Speaker 1: room full of like everything from the show, and just
Speaker 1: like he gets these things that no one else can find.
Speaker 1: If you ever need a picture or information, asked Darren Martin,
Speaker 1: he knows, please ask him. And then also honorable mention
Speaker 1: to the black Kelly's black suit, you know in the
Speaker 1: future with the leopard, leopard, leopard, a lot of leopard.
Speaker 1: I think I have that hat. Like that hat came
Speaker 1: back in a year ago leopard hat it did. You're right,
Speaker 1: and outside was very dynasty like Little Carrington. What am
Speaker 1: I wearing? Respect for Andrea's love of free samples. Also
Speaker 1: she had a lot too, and they were full sizers people.
Speaker 1: Those weren't just like the little ones, those were the
Speaker 1: big ones. Well that's it. That's it for this week's episode.
Speaker 1: Next week we are going to be talking about episode
Speaker 1: nineteen back in the High Life again. I can just
Speaker 1: hear the song. I'm not going to try to sing
Speaker 1: it for you because that'll hurt your ears. Oh is it?
Speaker 1: That was singing? Go ahead, We're back in the high life.
Speaker 1: Good Nope? Not it? Nope, not it, nope, not it.
Speaker 1: Say okay, just just say a few words to it.
Speaker 1: I will not What is it? It's like, of course,
Speaker 1: do I know, back in the hot back in the
Speaker 1: hot love again? Yeah? Is it? Don Henley, that's what
Speaker 1: I did? It's U Bruce Hornsby, that's not what you did.
Speaker 1: You did that was like some Kenny Rogers thing or like, no,
Speaker 1: it's yeah. I feel like it's start back in the
Speaker 1: high life again. Anyways, Please excuse our singing. I hope
Speaker 1: to use the song. Don't have a great week, everybody.
Speaker 1: I love you guys. Mhm