WEBVTT - The Importance of Grace

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, Peepsen, and welcome to wok F Daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody. Pre recording from the home

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<v Speaker 1>Bunker as I am off today for the Labor Day holiday,

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<v Speaker 1>but as always we leave you with great interviews and

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<v Speaker 1>content for you to enjoy while hopefully you were out

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<v Speaker 1>enjoying the last remnants of summer, even though summer is

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<v Speaker 1>unofficially over until you know the fall equinox, but whatever, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm excited to bring you an interview today with Nadio Lopez,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a participant in glads Here We Are campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember, several weeks back, we interviewed another participant

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<v Speaker 1>in the Here We Are campaign, which highlights the stories

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<v Speaker 1>of trans people in this country through their own lens

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<v Speaker 1>and their own stories, which is incredibly important. Oftentimes, too

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<v Speaker 1>often trans people are spoken about in terms of statistics

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<v Speaker 1>and headlines and devastation and murder, but not through the

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<v Speaker 1>lens of joy, happiness, health, acceptance, and love. And so

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<v Speaker 1>today's conversation with Nadia, who participated in the campaign and

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<v Speaker 1>is a full time student, she talks about her story

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<v Speaker 1>and I got to tell you it was incredibly moving

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<v Speaker 1>and just so energizing to speak to such a young,

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<v Speaker 1>fabulous person who just knows who they are, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think is just such a beacon for young people, young

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<v Speaker 1>queer people, but young people in general, for the courage

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<v Speaker 1>and just like beauty that she shows of what it

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<v Speaker 1>means to live in your skin. And so I really

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<v Speaker 1>hope that you enjoy my conversation with Nadia Lopez and

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<v Speaker 1>you get some inspiration from it. Folks. I am very

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<v Speaker 1>happy to welcome to wok F Daily Nadia Lopez, who

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<v Speaker 1>participated in the Here We Are campaign that GLAD rolled

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<v Speaker 1>out to showcase the stories of transgender people in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States because we know that over the past several years,

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<v Speaker 1>the trans community, particularly trans people of color, have been

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<v Speaker 1>under attack. There have been I think, my god, I

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<v Speaker 1>must have lost count over five hundred or some odd

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<v Speaker 1>policy measures that have been drawn up to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>invisibilize trans people. Nadia, tell us a bit about yourself

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<v Speaker 1>and why you decided to get involved in the Here

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<v Speaker 1>We Are campaign.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello everyone, Nadia Lopez. I am from Miami, Florida, born

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<v Speaker 2>and raised. I'm keeping Palestinian trans woman, very proud of

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<v Speaker 2>all my heritage and everything. So I went to high school.

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<v Speaker 2>I started my transition in high school during the pandemic,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was you know, that time for me was

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<v Speaker 2>very of like figuring out who I was. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were all locked down. We were all like stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in one room, and we had like really think about

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<v Speaker 2>so much stuff. When you're like alone with your own thoughts,

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<v Speaker 2>so much can come up. So I started transitioning during

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<v Speaker 2>the lockdown. And then my senior year was the first

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<v Speaker 2>year back when we were in person. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>my first year back ass Nadia. In this high school,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone was like, oh my god, you know she came

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<v Speaker 2>back home.

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<v Speaker 1>Girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, hey, everyone, how we do it? But also

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<v Speaker 2>that same year that was the same y I don't

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<v Speaker 2>say gay was passed too, so that was the same Yaing.

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<v Speaker 2>I also applied to be a change maker in the

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<v Speaker 2>Alliance for LGBTQ Youth down in South Slorida. It is

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<v Speaker 2>a leadership position. It was like a group of clear

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<v Speaker 2>youth that would get together and would try to work

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<v Speaker 2>on our own advocacy and our own leadership skills to

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<v Speaker 2>put all that effort at work that we've been working

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<v Speaker 2>on together into the policies and into advocacy into South Slorida.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so grateful when Glad reached out to me.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole process was like two years in the making,

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<v Speaker 2>kind of because I got my first email from them

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<v Speaker 2>when it was like the middle of my freshman year

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<v Speaker 2>in college. I'm right now going into my junior year.

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<v Speaker 2>I go to school for fashion design and for performing arts.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are my two passions. I love everything about art,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've always strived to make sure that inclusivity and

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<v Speaker 2>especially with trans people, is brought to those realms of art.

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<v Speaker 2>So I got my first email like the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>my first year, and first of all, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, Glad, Okay, hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad, Glad.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god. Like Glad turned out

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<v Speaker 2>to me like this. Like first of all, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was a SPA. I was like, this can't be real,

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, no, no. But then I really looked into it

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like they really wanted to tell a

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<v Speaker 2>story of just a trans person and them in real life.

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<v Speaker 2>And I love because they wanted to include me and

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. My dad is my biggest support. I love

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<v Speaker 2>him and Dad. He's like my best friend. And if

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<v Speaker 2>y'all see the video, he is in there speaking alongside

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<v Speaker 2>my mother as well. I'm very good, but I have

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<v Speaker 2>very supportive parents. So when we got onto the calls

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<v Speaker 2>with the team and with everything, we were just talking

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<v Speaker 2>about like what is kind of like my angal you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like what do I kind of want to do with

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<v Speaker 2>these PSAs with just lead my story? And I remember

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<v Speaker 2>telling them I was like, I want to show the

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<v Speaker 2>trans joy. I want to show yes, a trans woman,

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<v Speaker 2>a young trans woman, especially a young, a brown, young

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<v Speaker 2>trans woman, come on, let's speak on it, smiling with

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<v Speaker 2>her family, having fun with her friends, and just enjoying life.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we are constantly seeing in the media, whether it

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<v Speaker 2>is a TV show, a movie, politics, we see on

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<v Speaker 2>all these videos, we are always seeing a trans zoone

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<v Speaker 2>being knocked down, yep. And I want to be that change.

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<v Speaker 2>I do not want to see any more of these.

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<v Speaker 1>These s's like trauma porn, right, Like it's not to

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<v Speaker 1>say that the bad and horrific things don't happen, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're not the only part of the stick exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>And I feel like a good example of media that

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<v Speaker 2>balances out really well is post. I love posts. I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like they balance out the hard truth of being

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<v Speaker 2>a trans woman at that time, plus the joy of

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<v Speaker 2>having family and having recognition and validation of one another

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<v Speaker 2>from the community. I think that's a good example of

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<v Speaker 2>balancing the two. But still it's like you still see

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<v Speaker 2>like all these especially in media, you see if there's

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<v Speaker 2>a trans character, they are known for being just trans,

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<v Speaker 2>that they're all that's their only personality trait, and their

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<v Speaker 2>whole storyline is like I was outcasted, I was this,

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<v Speaker 2>I was that wow girl, I like I literally told

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<v Speaker 2>them so straight up. I was like, I want happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>I want our videos to be of us smiling. I

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<v Speaker 2>want the joy. Because being trans is such a beautiful experience.

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<v Speaker 2>And with media and with all of these like polities

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<v Speaker 2>going up, people think that being trans is like so

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<v Speaker 2>hard and like so like you know, hurtful on your life,

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<v Speaker 2>and of course, like we have those moments in our lives,

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<v Speaker 2>but being trans as well is so rewarding and so beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>I love being trans. It is like a part of me. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>but first of all, I love being trans, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>not the only thing I.

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<v Speaker 1>Am, right, right, You're also an artist, like you're also

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<v Speaker 1>a person of color. Yeah, I think that it's always

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<v Speaker 1>so important. The thing about media in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>ways is that it flattens people. It flattens people into

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<v Speaker 1>boxes that can be checked off. And so I think

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<v Speaker 1>that what is beautiful about the campaign that Glad did

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<v Speaker 1>is that it is revolutionary. It shouldn't be, but it

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<v Speaker 1>is revolutionary to show trans people in their fullness, to

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<v Speaker 1>not just be a stat to not just be a headline,

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<v Speaker 1>but to show trans people that are loved. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that is what that is what your video

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<v Speaker 1>did is to say, like, I am trans and I

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<v Speaker 1>am loved. I have a family that loves me. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I think too often we hear the stories of the

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<v Speaker 1>trans homelessness, right the youth homelessness, and being kicked out

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<v Speaker 1>of your home. So talk to us about your family,

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<v Speaker 1>your family support, and why it was important for you

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<v Speaker 1>to showcase that.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, I mean, my family's apartments a world to me.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember my first conversation specifically with my parents. They

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<v Speaker 2>were very confused. I mean, my mom is a Hispanic

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<v Speaker 2>Arab woman. My dad is Hispanic as well, from New York.

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<v Speaker 2>They both were raised in you know, conservative lifestyles just

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<v Speaker 2>because of their cultures, their how they were raised around

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<v Speaker 2>people at that time. But they were raised my mom

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<v Speaker 2>came from Cuba, like in the sixties, so all these

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<v Speaker 2>things like that was in their head when they when

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<v Speaker 2>they first heard me say I'm a woman, they were

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<v Speaker 2>very confused.

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<v Speaker 1>How old were you?

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<v Speaker 2>I was fifteen. I was fifteen years old. I'm now twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's been five years. Yeah, oh my god, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Five years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. That's so crazy to think about. Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But so I remember telling them. We were sitting on

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<v Speaker 2>the couch and I was like, I need to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you guys, I'm a woman. My dad was just quiet.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was like, what are you talking about, very confused.

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<v Speaker 2>It's sook been mom a little bit, a little longer

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<v Speaker 2>than my dad. Surprisingly, I was a little confused with that.

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<v Speaker 2>But my dad did the research. He read about young

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<v Speaker 2>trans trans women. He went to like focus grow groups,

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<v Speaker 2>he went to p FLAG, he went to those those groups.

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<v Speaker 2>And now he's like on the board of the Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>Tar Okay, okay, Dad, Yeah, come on dad.

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<v Speaker 2>We love dad. And then right when you know, my

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<v Speaker 2>dad started going to these meetings my mom, like all

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<v Speaker 2>this love that my mom had towards me started coming through,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it was all that validation of you know

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<v Speaker 2>her helping me, like my mom bothering my first dress.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember that moment that she helped me pick out

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<v Speaker 2>my first I don't know if it was a dress

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<v Speaker 2>or it's hop whoever, my first affirming piece of clothing. Yeah, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>she helped me pick it out. And it was like

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<v Speaker 2>the moment of her looking at me, her buying it

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<v Speaker 2>and being like, I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I'm gonna cry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I love them. I love I love my

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<v Speaker 2>parents very much and they love me so much. And

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<v Speaker 2>I remember my even my dad saying it was either

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<v Speaker 2>I accept my child for who she is or I

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<v Speaker 2>lose my daughter. Mm hmm. And I told him straight up,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, whatever y'all do, I'm gonna still be

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<v Speaker 2>me if you support me or not. I'm to put

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<v Speaker 2>myself first. I'm going to be myself. And they just decided,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to join the bandwagon.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hear from other young people about how your

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<v Speaker 1>story and your advocacy has helped them? Yes, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>it's been five years, you know, for you, it's both

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<v Speaker 1>a long time and a short time.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you hear from other young people who may be

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<v Speaker 1>on the precipice of coming out to their family having

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<v Speaker 1>these conversations. Yeah, and how do you kind of walk

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<v Speaker 1>them through it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. I mean I hear stories constantly. A

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<v Speaker 2>specific story was I was Rizzo in my senior year's musical.

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<v Speaker 2>I was the first transformant casted in my school. And

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<v Speaker 2>after the opening night, I came to school the next

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<v Speaker 2>morning and a girl came out to me and said,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing you as Rizzo in your authenticity made me finally

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<v Speaker 2>walk in these halls today as myself, And she like

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<v Speaker 2>came out to me and she was telling me like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trance as well, and hearing you and seeing you

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<v Speaker 2>helped me being myself now walking these halls. I was

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen at that time when I was crying my eyes out,

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<v Speaker 2>Like it was like seven in the morning. I'm crying,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, oh, we're gonna have to go to English,

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<v Speaker 2>like gro what. But it was just a moment I'm

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<v Speaker 2>never gonna forget. And I'm always hearing stories about people

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<v Speaker 2>my age and younger with their families and stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>asking me like what should I do. I always tell

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<v Speaker 2>people who ask me that question patience. It's so hard. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's so hard to be patient, But especially when you're transitioning.

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<v Speaker 2>You are going through so much. You're going through so

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<v Speaker 2>much mentally, you're going through so much physically. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>you're basically coming out of a cocoon. You are like

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<v Speaker 2>everything you are pushing to get out constantly. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>like we're trying to leave this old past self while

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<v Speaker 2>trying to balance still be a human being. And look

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<v Speaker 2>like when they tell me I'm just so frustrated with

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<v Speaker 2>my parents and so first, I just don't shareway I

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<v Speaker 2>get it. I'm like, girl, I get you, I get you.

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<v Speaker 2>I was frustrated my parents too in the beginning. It

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<v Speaker 2>took them, like, even though they're so supportive and they

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<v Speaker 2>love me so much right now, it took them a

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<v Speaker 2>hot minute. And I'm always gonna give them their flowers

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<v Speaker 2>for being the most supportive parents ever, and I love

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<v Speaker 2>them so much, but I'm never gonna forget the times

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<v Speaker 2>where it was it was stressful, because I mean, we

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<v Speaker 2>all grow, and they grew. So it's like I understand

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<v Speaker 2>that that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And grace is important right to provide, and I understand it,

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<v Speaker 1>like we always want people to be where we are

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<v Speaker 1>as we're moving through our own life journey. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that it's also important to provide people with grace

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<v Speaker 1>and give them the space to get to where you're going, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not telling people to you know, shrink themselves right

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<v Speaker 1>or dim themselves in order to get people to where

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<v Speaker 1>they're going. But I do think that patience really in

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<v Speaker 1>this context, really is a virtue.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's also the play Devil's Advocate. On my parents' side,

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<v Speaker 2>it was like they had a son for fourteen years

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<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden they had to now go

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<v Speaker 2>through their own transition. It's like they had to go

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<v Speaker 2>through their mental transition of now seeing their son now

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<v Speaker 2>as their daughter. So it took them a second, but

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<v Speaker 2>it was that great, as you said, the grace that

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<v Speaker 2>I let, I gave them to have their moment to process,

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<v Speaker 2>to understand, to do their own research. So at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, the only you know, we could

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<v Speaker 2>do is exist. We could teach as much as we can,

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<v Speaker 2>but we are not We are not a girl. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a doctorate, I have not got PhD. And

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. I could just tell you my experience and

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<v Speaker 2>I could tell you my story and that's it. But

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to learning about the community, that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of on them to kind of figure out more. If

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<v Speaker 2>they want to have all these questions answered, they have

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<v Speaker 2>to do their own work, because I'm still answering my

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<v Speaker 2>own questions myself. I'm still growing, I'm still learning, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>still figuring out who am I. Who is Nadia? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it took me a minute to even get to Nadia.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean when I came out, Nadia wasn't even in

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<v Speaker 2>my head at the moment, I was like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>saw I'm a woman. I'm a woman. And then it

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<v Speaker 2>was throwing and it was seeing my hair grow, it

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<v Speaker 2>was seeing my face softened, it was seeing my body

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<v Speaker 2>transform into the woman that I was that mirror. It

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<v Speaker 2>was seeing that woman I always saw when I was

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<v Speaker 2>younger come to life and fruition like it was. And

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<v Speaker 2>then once once it was complete, once I felt like myself,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's Nadia. That's who I am. My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Nadia. And it was beautiful because even when

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<v Speaker 2>my mom helped me live my name and everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>we kind of like had like a saving my family,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we were kind of sitting together like thinking about names,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, guy's Nadia. My mom's idea was

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, how about Nadia? And I was like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of like her. And I then like later

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<v Speaker 2>throughout that week, I was looking in the mirror, I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I love this too because it also gave your mom,

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<v Speaker 1>your family, like the opportunity to be a part of

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<v Speaker 1>that naming process in the way that they had right

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<v Speaker 1>when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Were born exactly, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I feel almost as if, like in your rebirth,

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<v Speaker 1>your family got to really also shift and change and

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<v Speaker 1>transition as well. And I think that that's really really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 1>Last question for you, Nadia is what advice do you

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<v Speaker 1>give to people who are either struggling to come into

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<v Speaker 1>their fullness of who they are and also share that

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<v Speaker 1>fullness with other people. What advice do you give to them?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I would say to be ourselves and to walk

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<v Speaker 2>into our fullness, as being a transperson is a statement

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<v Speaker 2>in itself, and it is a huge step to make.

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<v Speaker 2>It is scary, and once you walk out, girl, there

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<v Speaker 2>ain't no going back, so you gotta make sure you're ready.

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<v Speaker 2>And I told someone this, My favorite thing to tell

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<v Speaker 2>someone is to shine like a star you were born

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<v Speaker 2>to be. I love saying that. I love telling people

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<v Speaker 2>that what if I see, if I see the goodness

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<v Speaker 2>of them, you gotta shine like a star you were

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<v Speaker 2>born to be, because we're all born stars, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>all in this huge, beautiful night sky that we live

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<v Speaker 2>in every day. Some make compilations and some go shooting stars.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, it's like when you when you're

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<v Speaker 2>going into it. I remember I expected all of my

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<v Speaker 2>big moments to happen at the xac same moment. But

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<v Speaker 2>you have to remember that transitions are not always smooth. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>oh I ate that. Oh that was, Oh, oh wow,

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<v Speaker 2>you gonna put yourself on the girl I was. Transitions

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<v Speaker 2>are always are They're not always smooth. And if there's

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<v Speaker 2>a bump, it's okay. You acknowledge it. As my high

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<v Speaker 2>school teacher told me, recover and continue. You take it in.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta recover from it. You got hit, it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna come back up. You're gonna keep going, and

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<v Speaker 2>you are gonna keep going here to keep going no

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<v Speaker 2>matter what. Being ourselves is a huge statement, and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that you are choosing yourself is a beautiful thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you always have to remember that being yourself is

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<v Speaker 2>the best decision you could do. At least for me,

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<v Speaker 2>choosing myself, choosing my womanhood, choosing to leave my house

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<v Speaker 2>as Nadia was the best I could have ever made

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. Because now I walk with my headheld high.

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<v Speaker 2>I walk in spaces knowing, look at me, I'm that girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I am Nadia.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you something, if fashion does not work out,

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<v Speaker 1>then you move yourself into motivational speaker and life coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I know, I'm serious. It is truly inspiring to

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<v Speaker 1>see somebody that is so young and so in tuned

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<v Speaker 1>and so aligned with themselves like it really is inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just I want to thank you for making

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<v Speaker 1>the time for WOKF and I want to thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for making your life a testimonial for others to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to follow. I really appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much, you know, and thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>having me and giving me this platform. I really appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it for me today, dear friends on wok F.

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<v Speaker 1>As always, power to the people and to all the people. Power,

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<v Speaker 1>get woke and stay woke as fuck.