1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to Brainstuff, a production of iHeartRadio, Hey Brainstuff. Lauren 2 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: Bogelbaum here. Sifting through the junk stuck in the mud 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,479 Speaker 1: of the Thames may sound unpleasant to some, but in 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: doing so, one is almost guaranteed to find a curious 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: and possibly valuable artifact. Uncovering a piece of Roman pottery, 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: a sixteen fifties era tobacco pipe, or a small, well 7 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: preserved wax seal dating back to the time of King Richard. 8 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: The third is just the kind of thing that keeps 9 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: mudlarkers mudlarking. Mudlarking is essentially digging through exposed riverbanks for 10 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:48,959 Speaker 1: lost and forgotten objects, small treasures among shoreline rubbish. A 11 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: dirty job, yes, but a fun one for hobbyists and archaeologists. 12 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: For the article this episode is based on how Stuff Work. 13 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Spoke with Maryland heritage scholar Henry M. Miller, PhD. He said, 14 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: it's the excitement. You never know what you're going to find. 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: It's just like all of archaeology. It's the thrill of 16 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,559 Speaker 1: the discovery. Oh what am I going to find next? 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 1: And what is it going to tell me about people 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: in the past. That's the exciting thing. The concept of 19 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: mud larking originated in these seventeen or eighteen hundreds and 20 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: referred to a time when low income people, including kids, 21 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,960 Speaker 1: would pour over the shoreline of the Thames at low tide, 22 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 1: collecting lost coins if they were lucky, but also spare nails, 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: pieces of coal, and anything else they might sell or trade. 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: There was and still is plenty to find there. For 25 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: thousands of years, the Thames served as a dumping ground. 26 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: A miller explained, people would throw their daily garbage in 27 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: the river and the tide would distribute it and it 28 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: would essentially disappear from sight. It was nasty, especially as 29 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: London's population grew and the Thames became increasingly it. Sixty 30 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: years ago, the Thames was so polluted from centuries of 31 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: dumping that it was declared dead. Since then, intense efforts 32 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: have been made to clean up the river, and it's 33 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: now considered one of the world's cleanest, but its polluted 34 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: past has made it one of the best places to 35 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 1: go mudlarking. The Thames holds literally thousands of years of 36 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: trash from the prehistoric era to the modern day, and 37 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: as the old adage goes, one man's trash is another 38 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: man's treasure. Mudlarkers can dig up a host of interesting artifacts, 39 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: including things like Venetian glass beads, a tudor money boxes, 40 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: medieval pilgrim badges, and sixteenth century shoes. Dumping all that 41 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: stuff into the Thames certainly got it out of sight, 42 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: but it didn't really disappear. It settled into the mud 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: at the river's bottom. Durable materials like pottery, nails, tobacco pipes, 44 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: and glass bottles get to humbled around a bit, but 45 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: last pretty well, along with some softer materials that may 46 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: surprise you. But Miller said, what's cool is there's an 47 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: anaerobic condition, which means things like wood and bone and 48 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: cloth and leather actually survive, sometimes in pretty pristine condition. 49 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: I found the top to a wine bottle, probably from 50 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 1: the late seventeen hundreds, with the cork still intact. He 51 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: visited in twenty sixteen to help create a comparative collection 52 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: of known London artifacts for archaeological analysis of early American sites. 53 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: The tides of the Thames create a perfect situation for 54 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: unearthing artifacts that many other waterways don't have. For starters, 55 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: its tide has a surprisingly large range. It can rise 56 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: and recede up to twenty four feet that's around seven meters, 57 00:03:50,440 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: with two low tides and two high tides every day, 58 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: leaving behind a vast swath of exposed river bottom at 59 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: each low tide. Here in the US, like the Hudson, 60 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: do experienced tides, but it might only drop about three 61 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: feet or a little less than a meter. The Thames 62 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: tide also comes in fast, upward of five miles an 63 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: hour that's about eight kilometers an hour. This enables the 64 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: current to scour the river bed and push out a 65 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: literal treasure trove of valuables toward the shoreline, where they're 66 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: left behind as the tide more gently recedes. Of course, 67 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 1: technically you can mudlark the shores of any river in 68 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: the world, but if you want to mudlark in the Thames, 69 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: you've got to get a permit from the Port of 70 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: London Authority. That process takes at least four weeks and 71 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: costs about thirty five pounds a day for a standard license. 72 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: With that license, you're allowed to dig about three inches 73 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: or seven and a half centimeters into the mud and 74 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: are expected to replace the ground you disturb to help 75 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,280 Speaker 1: preserve the environment and food chain. For the river's wildlife, 76 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: protecting the foreshores, natural and agricultural resources, and keeping mud 77 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: larkers and other citygoers safe is of utmost importance. Thus 78 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: there are some zones where digging isn't allowed. Restricted areas 79 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: include public infrastructure like passenger piers and gas pipelines of 80 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: plus historic sites like the shore along the Tower of 81 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: London and Queen Hive, which is a former Roman dock 82 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: area that was later developed by the Saxon king Alfred 83 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: the Great in the seven hundred CE. No permits are 84 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: required to mudlark in the US. You may find objects 85 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: of interest, but won't find the quantity and only very 86 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: rarely the quality that you can find along the Thames. 87 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: Miller said, we don't have, unfortunately, massive quantities of Roman 88 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: artifacts exposed here. Regardless of where you mudlark, you may 89 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 1: overlook a valuable artifact as junk or mistakeo worthless piece 90 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: of debris for a valuable treasure. Finding lost treasures takes 91 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: a trained eye and a good working knowledge of antiquities. 92 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: Remember that wine bottle stopper Miller had the thrill of 93 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: finding during his mudlarking excursion in the Thames. Some might 94 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: have assumed it was trash, but Miller knew it was 95 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: from the late seventeen hundreds because of the style of stopper. 96 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: He explained, on handmade bottles from that time, there's an 97 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: applied piece of glass just below the opening at the 98 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: top called a string rim. That's where they tie a 99 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: cord or wired to secure the cork in place. The 100 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: style has changed over time, so knowing the style of 101 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: the string rim, that's how I was able to date 102 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: the wine stopper. Luckily, for those of us who aren't 103 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: professional archaeologists, England has a system for identifying found objects. 104 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: Your permit to Mudlark allows you access to collect, but 105 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: it also explicitly says that you must give any fines 106 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: over to an authority for evaluation. That authority is your 107 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 1: local Finds Liaison officer, who has access to experts who 108 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: can help identify what a found object is. These objects 109 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: are also recorded in the Portable Antiquity Scheme, which is 110 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: a project of the British Museum to track all historical 111 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: artifacts that are found in the Thames and other locations 112 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: across the UK. Miller said England has a Treasure's law 113 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: on stuff like gold or silver or something like a 114 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: complete Roman sword. Stuff that's really rare because that's the 115 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 1: property of the people of England. If someone does find 116 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: something of great value, museums have the right to purchase 117 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: the item, for which the finder would be compensated. However, 118 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: it's really lucky to hit that kind of jackpot, Miller said. 119 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: Things like tobacco pipes, pieces of a bottle, a pig's jaw, 120 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: a specimen of medieval pottery, or a thimble are so 121 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: common and such domestic debris that museums already have thousands 122 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: or millions of those specimens in their collection. If an 123 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: item is reviewed and deemed not to be a treasure, 124 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: the mudlarker can have it back. In the US, if 125 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: you find something and are curious about its value, you 126 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: can contact your state archaeologist or an archaeologist at your 127 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: local college or university. The rules aren't as explicit here, 128 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: but it's still a good thing to do, especially if 129 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 1: you think you might have something uncommon on your hands. 130 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: A university or museum might be interested in purchasing it, 131 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 1: and it's really only polite, Miller said. As an archaeologist, 132 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 1: I must emphasize that for things that are exceptionally rare 133 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 1: that are part of our collective history. It really would 134 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: be appropriate to notify the State Historical Trust or archaeologist 135 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: about them. Trudging along riverbeds may sound harmless enough, but 136 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 1: mudlarking can be dangerous, especially along the Thames with such 137 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: tidal action. People have become so caught up and looking 138 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: for objects that some have become stranded and swept off 139 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: by the tide and had to be rescued. Other hazards 140 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: include slipping on rocks, getting hit by speedboats or garbage barges. 141 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: We're syncing into mudholes. You may also be at risk 142 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 1: for Vile's disease nasty bacterial infection that can spread through 143 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 1: rat urine in the water. Whether you find that an 144 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: acceptable risk or not is up to you, but if 145 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: you don't already have a permit, it may be a 146 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: while before it matters. The part of London Authority only 147 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: allows four thousand standard permits to be in play at 148 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: any given time, each vallid for one year. Those are 149 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: currently all accounted for. They do have a wait list, 150 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: but it's currently capped at ten thousand. Perspective Mudlarkers, Today's 151 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 1: episode is based on the article mudlarkers pull historical artifacts 152 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: out of riverbank muck on HowStuffWorks dot Com written by 153 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: Jennifer Walker. Journey brain Stuff is production of by Heart 154 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: Radio in partnership with how Stuffworks dot Com and is 155 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 1: produced by Tyler Klang. Four more podcasts from my heart Radio, 156 00:09:56,960 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you list 157 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: and your favorite shows