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Speaker 1: It's now officially open.

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Speaker 2: This is Draft Season, presented by Moody's, a proud sponsor

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Speaker 2: of the New York Football Giants. I am John Schmelk,

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Speaker 2: joined as always from Essentially Sports. Our draft guru, Tony Pauline,

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Speaker 2: coming to you from the Hackensack Briney Health podcast studio.

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Speaker 1: Keep getting better, Tony.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna have a real NFL football game for

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Speaker 2: about six and a half months, closer to seven.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a while here.

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Speaker 2: Luckily, we have a lot to fill our plate with

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Speaker 2: football over the next couple of months.

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Speaker 3: Sure do I mean you kind of figure what are

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Speaker 3: you gonna do on Sunday afternoons? Now? For me, for

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Speaker 3: a lot of the people, we got the Olympics to

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Speaker 3: keep us busy, and then when the Olympics are over,

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Speaker 3: you and I will be at the Combine, and then

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Speaker 3: it's Pro Day month, and then before you know what,

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Speaker 3: the Draft will be upon us, and I guess we'll

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Speaker 3: have baseball season to kind of fill the void between

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Speaker 3: then and the kickoff, the official kickoff of the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty sixth season, and of course free agency, which is

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Speaker 3: going to be interesting.

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Speaker 2: And Tony, don't forget Nicks basketball. I mean, come on

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Speaker 2: next to the you sit in the east, they're rocking

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Speaker 2: and rolling.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I like dipping into the Tony personal life a little

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Speaker 2: bit here, So we're gonna do that early. For the

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Speaker 2: people that don't know, Tony trained to be an Olympic

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Speaker 2: the cathletic back in the day. I think that was

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Speaker 2: what like the thirty six Olympics, right, Tony, is that

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Speaker 2: about right?

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Speaker 3: Actually it was when all the guys competed naked and

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Speaker 3: the women weren't allowed to be their agree So yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're ware Togas.

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Speaker 1: You're here the Togus. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this is the Winter Olympics, it's not the summer.

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Speaker 2: So what are Tony Paulin's favorite Olympic sports? For the

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Speaker 2: Winter Games?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I've actually attended two Winter Olympics. I was at nineteen

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Speaker 3: two in Salt Lake City. And Winter Olympics are great

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Speaker 3: because you get to see events that you would never see.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I remember the first event I saw in

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Speaker 3: this lake comes flying by eighty five miles an hour,

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Speaker 3: and she's like, whoa. You know, just think about put

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Speaker 3: one to watch, Bob said, ski jumping. If you go

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Speaker 3: like cross country skiing because I'm a runner. As you said,

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Speaker 3: And cross country skiing, I mean, wow, it's tough enough

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Speaker 3: Winter Olympics, I sit down again. They're fun. I'd like

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Speaker 3: But again, the Winter Olympics to me are fun to

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Speaker 2: Now, sar As, you gonna go to Lake Placid. That

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize that was your only in high

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think we need to start an Olympic

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Speaker 2: podcast with Tony. You're throwing history out there. You're a

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we do have the draft, if the

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Speaker 2: then obviously you mentioned it for agency that that's gonna

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Speaker 2: fregency is so underrated, Tony, and how it changes the

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Speaker 2: entire draft picture because needs are such a big part

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Speaker 2: what team's doing for agency, especially in the top ten

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Speaker 2: where Tony, my guess is, when all is said and done,

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Speaker 2: these boards are gonna look radically different from team to

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Speaker 1: And then I think that'll.

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Speaker 2: Inform people for what to look at at the combine

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Speaker 3: You will and you know, the thing about free agency

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Speaker 1: No, you're absolutely right here, Tony.

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Speaker 1: This is how kind of how I have it defined.

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Speaker 2: I kind of work off the grading scale that Lanzier

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Speaker 2: of NFL teams uses it too. So my first round

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Speaker 3: Well, I look at it as guys that if they're

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Speaker 3: twenty four. But they're really good players. So I look

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Speaker 3: for guys that I expect to be starting his rookies,

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Speaker 3: guys that have shown improvement, and also players that have upside.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you don't want guys that are

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Speaker 3: when they enter the draft and they're not gonna get

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Speaker 3: much better. You want those guys, excuse me, they're gonna

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Speaker 2: And that's also, Tony, why people like did you have

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Speaker 2: That's not what you're looking for because you think you

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Speaker 2: is still going to continue to improve. All right, So

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Speaker 2: whether there's one player at a time here, because you don't,

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Speaker 2: I'll do a little teaser.

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Speaker 1: Not that many first round grades this year.

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Speaker 2: We're not looking at you know, I think a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago, Tony, we had like twenty two or

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Speaker 2: twenty three. Last year, I think both of us around

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Speaker 2: nineteen or twenty if I remember right. This year, well,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna tell you the number, but when we

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Speaker 2: it at how quickly we get to the end of this.

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Speaker 2: So let's start with your top graded player. And again

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Speaker 2: this can change, folks. It's fluid. Tony and I are

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Speaker 2: still finalizing grades. We have pro days, we have combine

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Speaker 2: all that stuff. But I think this is a pretty

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Speaker 1: So the first guy on your list, Tony.

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Speaker 2: Is Arvo Reesat of Ohio State, and you've been listed

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Speaker 2: as an inside linebacker. That's an off ball position. I

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Speaker 2: agree with you. That's how I have him graded as well.

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Speaker 2: And it's just a combination of length, physicality, speed. He

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Speaker 2: could do just about everything on the football field you want.

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Speaker 2: And it's odd to see an off ball inside linebacker

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Speaker 3: It's all but he could rush the passer. And I'm

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Speaker 3: glad that you say off ball linebacker because people are

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Speaker 3: going to talk about, well, it's not he's not valued

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Speaker 3: at that position and some of the people will have

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Speaker 3: him grated as an edge rusher. He can rush the passer.

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Speaker 3: He's a linebacker that can rush the passer. He's also

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Speaker 3: a guy that played much better in twenty twenty five

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Speaker 3: than he did in twenty twenty four. He's also a

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Speaker 3: guy that could be an even better player two or

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Speaker 3: three years down the road. So the arrow and everything

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Speaker 3: is pointing north on r bel reach. The size, the speed,

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Speaker 3: the ability to stack against the run, the ability to

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Speaker 3: play and coverage, the ability to rush the passer, everything's there.

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Speaker 3: And he's not one dimensional. You know, we talk about

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Speaker 3: these edge rushers and they're one dimension. He's a throwback.

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Speaker 3: And you know, there was a time Giant fans were

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Speaker 3: very familiar with it in the eighties where that impact

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Speaker 3: defensive line, that impact linebacker that can do everything, you know,

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Speaker 3: was highly coveted. In my opinion, that's what rbl rees is.

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Speaker 1: L Va Reese is a is an inside linebacker.

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Speaker 2: Tony's six' four two forty and even though he played

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Speaker 2: technically a different position because the Player i'm about to

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Speaker 2: mention was an outside, backer not an inside, backer BUT

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Speaker 2: i think the way they contribute in a lot of

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Speaker 2: ways as. Similar he kind of reminds me Of Carl

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Speaker 2: banks a little. Bit he's, big he's, long he sets the,

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Speaker 2: edge he can, cover he's a smart. Player now he's

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Speaker 2: not as big As, carlows as you, know no linebackers

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Speaker 2: or as big as the linebackers.

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Speaker 3: Was in the.

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Speaker 2: Eighties but that's that's the type of. Player and you're,

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Speaker 2: RIGHT i JUST i think he can rush the. PASSER

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Speaker 2: i think he could be a good pass. Rusher he

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Speaker 2: only had one hundred and nineteen pass rushing snaps last, Year,

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Speaker 2: tony ohiose they played fifteen, games so that's like what

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Speaker 2: eight a game something like. That you, know he just

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Speaker 2: didn't do it a. Ton he doesn't have like a

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Speaker 2: ton of moves out, there like When Michael parsons came, Out,

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Speaker 2: tony you saw the, flashes but he had a lot of.

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Speaker 1: Moves right last year you'd ab Duel. Carter he had

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Speaker 1: a ton of.

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Speaker 2: Moves like When reese rushes on the, outside you see

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Speaker 2: the physical. Tools he doesn't have this big bag of

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Speaker 2: pass rushing tools right now that he's gonna. Unveil like

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Speaker 2: even like people compared it To Jalen walker last. Year

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Speaker 2: Jalen walker was far more polished of a pass rusher

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Speaker 2: than What Arvroll reese is coming out this, year at

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Speaker 2: least in my.

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Speaker 3: Opinion and he's he was a lot smaller Than arville.

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Speaker 3: Reached you, know it's funny you talk About Karl banks

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Speaker 3: and you talk About arboro reach with so FEW uh

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Speaker 3: pass rushing. Snaps you, know The giants that Need Carl

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Speaker 3: banks to pass because Had Lawrence. Taylor Ohio state didn't

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Speaker 3: Need Arvel reese to rush the passer because they play

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Speaker 3: a format in front and they Have Kenyatta. Jackson At

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Speaker 3: Cayden curry was doing COLLEGE uh pass rusher and At

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Speaker 3: kate McDonald on the. Inside but when he, did he

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Speaker 3: rush the, passer they just didn't need him to rush the,

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Speaker 3: passer and he was really outstanding in his. Role he's

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Speaker 3: played for two defensive, Coordinators Jim, knowles who was outstanding

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Speaker 3: during the championship, run and Then Matt, Patricia so you,

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Speaker 3: know he's basically. Got he's RECEIVED nfl coaching in AN

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Speaker 3: nfl type of, System and LIKE i, said you can

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Speaker 3: knock him all you want about not having pass rush.

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Speaker 3: Music he was a much better player in twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: five than he was in twenty twenty, four AND i

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Speaker 3: think he's gonna be a better player in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 3: six twenty twenty, seven twenty twenty. Eight moving, Forward.

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Speaker 1: Oh, Tony i'm with. You that wasn me knocking.

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Speaker 3: Him that was just gonna make me the point that

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Speaker 3: And i'm not talking about. You What i'm saying is

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Speaker 3: is whether It's Fernando mendoz or people are gonna look

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Speaker 3: to punch holes in these guys games moving, Forward but

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Speaker 3: you have to look at the look at it in its.

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Speaker 2: Entirety, yeah, Correct i'm with the absolutely right and the

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Speaker 2: Reason i'll just bring up the pass rushed.

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Speaker 1: Off people want to greet him as an edge.

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Speaker 2: Guy to, me his best, book not as an edge,

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Speaker 2: guy which is which is the POINT i was trying to.

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Speaker 2: Make SO i think just important to kind of keep

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Speaker 2: an eye on. That all, right the next guy in your,

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Speaker 2: List AND i, THOUGHT i thought this guy might have

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Speaker 2: ended up being the first guy in your, List, tony

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Speaker 2: to be honest with, you but he ends up being

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Speaker 2: second and nets Rvol reese's Teammate Caleb downs to do everything.

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Speaker 1: SAFETY i, Mean i'm not sure what you.

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Speaker 2: Know he can cover in the, slot he can play,

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Speaker 2: deep he can be a run, player he can be

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Speaker 2: a single high post. Player he's six two hundred five,

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Speaker 2: pounds not the biggest, guy but in a league now

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Speaker 2: where people are looking for versatile defensive, backs that can

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Speaker 2: play a number of positions and just be your fixed

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Speaker 2: guy and can kind of just fix anything you need

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Speaker 2: him to. Fix Tony Caleb downs is just one of

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Speaker 2: the best players in college.

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Speaker 3: Football big play. Safety you remember that playing a semi

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Speaker 3: final game Against, texas which basically the turn that game.

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Speaker 3: Around when it looks Like texas is going to go

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Speaker 3: into the end zone with the tying, score he made

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Speaker 3: the play for what five or six yard loss on

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Speaker 3: a running down two plays later was a scoop and

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Speaker 3: score By Jack. Sawyer he took on a bit of

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Speaker 3: a different role this year because With Matt patricia the

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Speaker 3: linebacker sunny styles and Rvel reese had bigger, roles so

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Speaker 3: he was not as much a. Playmaker but the thing

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Speaker 3: about Is Caleb downs THAT i love is you never

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Speaker 3: see mental mistakes on the. Field you never see mental.

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Speaker 3: Lapses he's got as you, said he can, cover he

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Speaker 3: can play the, Run he's got good, range so he

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Speaker 3: can be a true center. Fielder but he plays, smart

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Speaker 3: disciplined football and it's been like that throughout his entire.

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Speaker 3: Career the only REASON i have Rvel reese rated higher

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Speaker 3: Is reese had a much better twenty twenty five, season

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Speaker 3: probably because of the, structure because of what they were

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Speaker 3: asked to. Do reese was asked to do. MORE i

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Speaker 3: Think Caleb downs was asked to, do if not, less

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Speaker 3: be a little bit more, discipline a little more, structure

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Speaker 3: And REESE i think can be a little bit more,

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Speaker 3: impactful which is WHY i have him graded slightly.

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Speaker 2: Higher, Yeah downs just didn't play as close as the

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Speaker 2: line as scrimmage as much as he did last.

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Speaker 1: Year because you mentioned the two, Linebackers, tony So i'm with.

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Speaker 2: You i'm curious to see what do you think the

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Speaker 2: highest That downs could go in this? Draft when all

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Speaker 2: said and, done what do you think his ceiling is

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Speaker 2: for how high he might get?

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Speaker 3: Picked two to The. JETS i, mean you look at The. Jets,

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Speaker 3: well The jets defensive secondary is the. Mess, okay they

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Speaker 3: need cornerbacks and they need. Safeties the head coach is

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Speaker 3: a former defensive. Back you know you, Can like you,

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Speaker 3: Said downs is. Versatile you use them as a free.

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Speaker 3: Safety if you play a two deep, zone he'll be effective.

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Speaker 3: THERE i think he can play over the. Slot SO

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Speaker 3: i think considering that there's no quarterback. There considering, That,

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Speaker 3: Yeah Rville reese is an outstanding. Player but guess, what

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Speaker 3: as we talked about literally Since, august this is going

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Speaker 3: to be a terrific off ball linebacker. Draft AND i

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Speaker 3: don't like drafting you know something now because you're going

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Speaker 3: to get something. Later but the fact is you'll be

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Speaker 3: able to get good off ball linebacker second third. Round

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Speaker 3: jets have you know how many picks? It you'd have

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Speaker 3: two first round, picks a bunch of picks it in

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Speaker 3: day one and day, two and the talented safety really

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Speaker 3: falls off a cliff After Caleb. Downs SO i firmly,

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Speaker 3: believe you, Know moogie had success with safety's when he

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Speaker 3: was In. DENVER i firmly believe That Caleb downs is

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Speaker 3: in the conversation with The jets at number.

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Speaker 2: Two, yeah and remember and AGAIN i Think downs is

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Speaker 2: a better, Player but The lions had a guy Named

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Speaker 2: brian Branch tony WHO i think is similar in skill.

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Speaker 1: Set The Caleb.

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Speaker 2: Downs AND i Think Aaron gun probably does see the

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Speaker 2: value in, That SO i. AGREE i think he's certainly

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Speaker 2: talent enough to go out. High i'm curious to see

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Speaker 2: what people think about drafting, safety though, Again down's gonna

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Speaker 2: do a lot of different things that.

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Speaker 1: High we'll have to wait and, see and Then tony

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Speaker 1: just has all sorts of position.

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Speaker 2: Value at the top of his, Drafter he's got An

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Speaker 2: All paul, linebacker he's got a. Safety then at number,

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Speaker 2: three all, right, well well else gonna throw it? There

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Speaker 2: here comes the running Back Jeremiah love out Of Notre.

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Speaker 2: Dame tony comes in is your third highest graded. Player

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Speaker 2: and you've really come around on him BECAUSE i remember

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Speaker 2: talking to you about him In august and in the, offseason, like,

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Speaker 2: eh he's not consistent. Enough he tries to make big

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Speaker 2: plays all the. Time he doesn't just grind out. Yards

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Speaker 2: but now you have him in your top five and

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Speaker 2: you're a big.

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Speaker 1: Fan, well two.

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Speaker 3: Things number, one as far as setting up my, BOARD

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Speaker 3: i don't put a premium on. POSITION i go by

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Speaker 3: best player. VEIL i, mean if it was a punter

435
00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 3: that was the number four, PLAYER i would have no

436
00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,000
Speaker 3: problem putting a punter in the top five if he

437
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:29,720
Speaker 3: was worth if he was one of the top five.

438
00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 3: PLAYERS i think the positional value comes when you do

439
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 3: A mott. Draft to wear these guys en up in the,

440
00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,920
Speaker 3: draft not on it shouldn't be on your big. Board

441
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,880
Speaker 3: Well i'm gonna give this guy a few extra points

442
00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 3: because he's a quarterback And i'm gonna knock him over the.

443
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 3: Safety as far As, love my concern With love last

444
00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,399
Speaker 3: year and look at the. STATS i, mean he'd have

445
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:47,920
Speaker 3: a game where he had one hundred and fifty yards

446
00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 3: and then there was a game where there's forty five.

447
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,359
Speaker 3: Yards so it was up and, down up and. Down

448
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,320
Speaker 3: but WHEN i watched him this, year he took on

449
00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 3: a bigger. Role he's a versatile. Back he can grind

450
00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 3: it out on the. Inside he's got the speed to

451
00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:03,159
Speaker 3: turn the cold. Owner he's the terrific pass, catcher you.

452
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 3: KNOW i think one of those things one of the

453
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,399
Speaker 3: benefits of, him you, know being up and. Down he

454
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,119
Speaker 3: doesn't have a lot of. Carries he does have a

455
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 3: lot of shread on the, tire WHICH i think is

456
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,480
Speaker 3: something very important as opposed to a guy that's coming

457
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 3: out of college that has three to four hundred carries

458
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,439
Speaker 3: already on the college. Level, again he's the GUY i

459
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 3: think his best football is ahead of. Him we've seen

460
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 3: him break games wide open with that. Speed but he's

461
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:31,199
Speaker 3: also a, smart consistent interior runner who, basically you, know

462
00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,439
Speaker 3: for the past two, years shared the ball that notes Your,

463
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 3: dame but really came to. PROMINENCE i believe last year

464
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,840
Speaker 3: made the best choice entering the. Draft, NO i agree with.

465
00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: That he's a he's a.

466
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 2: PLAYMAKER i think he's the best offensive weapon in this draft, Class.

467
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 1: Tony, like if you just, say, LOOK i want the guy.

468
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,119
Speaker 2: That's going to be the best offensive player in this,

469
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,080
Speaker 2: DRAFT i think it AS.

470
00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,680
Speaker 1: A as a, PLAYMAKER i think it's Probably Jeremiah.

471
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:56,679
Speaker 2: Love now does that mean he's going to be the

472
00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 2: first wide, receiver tight, end running back taken in this.

473
00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:02,119
Speaker 2: Draft maybe, not because AGAIN i think running back with

474
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 2: position value that will impact. Teams But i'm with. YOU

475
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 2: i have no argument with him being the third player

476
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,280
Speaker 2: on your. Board really good, player big, play guy's got good,

477
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 2: size can catch. IT i think there's a lot to

478
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 2: love about. Him all, right your fourth, Guy. Tony and it's,

479
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: funny he ended up being my top edge rusher this year.

480
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: Too and it's Not Ruben, bain It's David bally out

481
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:25,679
Speaker 2: Of Texas. Tech AND i just think the amount of

482
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,960
Speaker 2: juice he has coming off the edge and the, bursts

483
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 2: an ability to bend the, corner and his. Flexibility he

484
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: has some counter moves as. Well he's, violent with his.

485
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 2: HANDS i Think baily is a pure pass, rusher is

486
00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: the best edge player in this.

487
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: Draft the film On belly just blew me. AWAY i,

488
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 3: mean forget put aside his great pass rushing skill and

489
00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: his great pass rushing. NUMBERS i think he had what

490
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,320
Speaker 3: thirteen and a half sacks eighteen and a half tackles for.

491
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 3: Laws but when you're, watching people, complain, well he's not really, big,

492
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,119
Speaker 3: yes but you never see him being overwhelmed by. Blockers

493
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: you see him hold his ground against bigger offensive. Tackles

494
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 3: you see an inside. Move he's not just a wide edge.

495
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 3: Rusher he throws an inside move and gets between the

496
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: guard and the. Tackle he's also. ATHLETIC i mean there

497
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 3: were times where they use him off the lot of

498
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: scrimmage in space on zone, blitzeres he does a good.

499
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 3: Job you see him change direction and get out to

500
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 3: the sidelines in pursuit on running plays and run down

501
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 3: the ball. Handler the only thing THAT i WAS i

502
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 3: wasn't even a red. Flag he wasn't that good out

503
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 3: of a three point. Stance WHEN i watched, him he

504
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 3: was so much better standing over tackle as a three

505
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:35,760
Speaker 3: to four outside stand up a rush. Linebacker as opposed

506
00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: to coming out of a three point. Stance maybe you'll

507
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: have to learn that the tape just blew me. Away

508
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 3: On David, BAILEY i got a lot more THAN i.

509
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 3: EXPECTED i probably watched a half a dozen, games if not. More,

510
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 3: obviously we want to see what the measurements. Are we

511
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 3: want to see what the testing is at the. Combine

512
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 3: assume he even tests at the. Combine but you, know

513
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,439
Speaker 3: it's gonna be interesting to see how tall is. He

514
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 3: is he sixty? Three is he six three and a?

515
00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 3: Half is he six to? Four you know? What which

516
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 3: is true? Weight but the fact is is you watch

517
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 3: the film and he plays big. Football he plays, big strong.

518
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 3: Football he never gets overwhelmed at the. Point in, fact

519
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 3: he will overwhelm and he will dominate the blockers as

520
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 3: we've seen time and time again from both. Sides it's

521
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,280
Speaker 3: not just over the left. Tackle he does it over

522
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 3: the right tackle as.

523
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: Well i'm with, you no, Notes i'm with you all. Right,

524
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: fifth you Have Random. Mendoza. Tony you talked about him

525
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 1: a ton.

526
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 2: Good good pocket, passer, accurate gets the blo out on,

527
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,400
Speaker 2: time pretty decent. Athlete he's not just a stationary guy

528
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 2: back There i'm not sure he's ever gonna be a

529
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,159
Speaker 2: top ten quarterback in the, league BUT i think he

530
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,879
Speaker 2: will be a solid.

531
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:41,360
Speaker 3: Starter, SEE i don't, know because Whenever indiana needed, him

532
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,159
Speaker 3: he answered the. Call he was just not you, know

533
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 3: look at The Seattle seahawks On sunday WHEN i won

534
00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 3: The Super. Bowl it was a balanced offensive, attack run and,

535
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 3: pass run and. Passed that's What indiana, was especially through

536
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:58,240
Speaker 3: the college. Playoffs they never Asked Fernando mendoza to carry

537
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: that team on his shoulders because you didn't have, to

538
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 3: because he had the running game when they Wanted Fernando,

539
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 3: mendoza when they Needed Fernando, mendoza he came through big

540
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 3: time for, him not just in the college football players

541
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: in The Big ten title game and that game Against

542
00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: Penn state when he drove the team down the field

543
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 3: and came up with numerous big time third down, plays

544
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 3: that great passing catch To Omar cooper which won the.

545
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,360
Speaker 3: Game SO i really think That Fernando mendoza has got

546
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 3: the physical skills to be that franchise type. Quarterback he

547
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 3: just just never has been asked to do it because

548
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 3: it wasn't, necessary you. Know from the National Championship Indiana,

549
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 3: hoosias who won sixteen to. Zero SO i think people

550
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 3: are going to say, that, well, YEAH i don't, know

551
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,320
Speaker 3: maybe not a franchise. Quarterback you, know he's got the,

552
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,479
Speaker 3: size he's got the arm, strength he can make all the.

553
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,040
Speaker 3: Passes you mentioned the, fact you know he's got some

554
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,640
Speaker 3: elusiveness to his. GAME i don't, Know and we spoke

555
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 3: about this, before how those back shoulder passes are going

556
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 3: to work consistently on The. Sunday but he seems very.

557
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,920
Speaker 3: COACHABLE i, mean you, know he went from cal To Kurtz,

558
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 3: signetty who's a tough. Guy he's a. WORKER i, mean

559
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: every time the guy, talks he's very. Impressive you heard

560
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 3: his comments about why he's not gonna throw out the,

561
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 3: combine why he's gonna throw up prode because he wants

562
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: to help his. Teammates it's gonna be good for his.

563
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 3: TEAMMATES i think that you, know he's not saying he's

564
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: not in the realm Of Trevor lawrence the way we

565
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: Viewed Trevor lawrence When lawrence came out Of. Clemson BUT

566
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: i think with the right, COACHING i think For Nanda,

567
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 3: mendoza it's gonna be one of the better quarterbacks in

568
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,680
Speaker 3: THE nfl two or three years down the.

569
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: Road, YEAH i don't think i'd put him in The Caleb,

570
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 2: Williams Drake, may j And daniels category.

571
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 1: EITHER i would kind of put him in a slot

572
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: just below, that you know WHAT i.

573
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: MEAN i agree with you at this point in. Time

574
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 3: let's see what, happens because he's never you, Know Caleb

575
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 3: williams basically CARRIED usc on his, shoulders RIGHT. J Jayden

576
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 3: daniels had some great, receivers but he was he was you,

577
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 3: know they didn't have a, big big time running. Game

578
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 3: indiana was a balance, attack so they didn't need For

579
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 3: Nanda mendoza to do all those. Things Drake may, STRUGGLED

580
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 3: i mean his last year coming out Of North, carolina

581
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 3: if you. REMEMBER i just think that people are we're

582
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 3: gonna hear, well he doesn't have great. UPSIDE i tend to.

583
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 3: Disagree we won't know the answer for two or three.

584
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: Years BUT i think one of the Reasons Klint kubiak

585
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 3: took that job In vegas is he knows he's gonna

586
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 3: be able to Get he's gonna Get Frinanda mendoza and

587
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 3: be able to coach him to be an OUTSTANDING nfl.

588
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,160
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589
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590
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591
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Speaker 2: Com all, Right, tony let's go to the next guy

592
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 2: on your, list and That's Rubin baine out Of. MIAMI

593
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: i have him as a legitimate first round grade as.

594
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: Well WHEN i watched the, tape, Though, tony it's funny

595
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 2: he gets, there but the way he gets there doesn't

596
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 2: blow you, away like he kind of just works his

597
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 2: way back. There AND i had the same, issue AND

598
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 2: i was wrong about it one hundred percent WHEN i

599
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: Watched Adan hutchinson rush when when he came out and it's,

600
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 2: like you, KNOW i don't things don't blow me. AWAY

601
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: i Think hutchinson's tape was significantly better than Than BUT

602
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: i Think bean's going to be a really good. Pro

603
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 2: he has an interesting size profile where he's not your traditional.

604
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: Edge he doesn't have long, arms he's, heavier So i'm

605
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 2: really curious to see how this works for him when

606
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: he gets to the next. Level But i'm with, you

607
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: definitely a first round.

608
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 3: Pick, yeah. ABSOLUTELY i mean didn't have great, stats but was.

609
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 3: Impactful it was constantly behind the line of. Scrimmage obviously

610
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 3: benefited from the fact, that you, know he had A

611
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 3: Keen mesidor plane on the other side of the line from.

612
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 3: Me he had the Kid blay on the inside collecting.

613
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: Blocks so he had good teammates around, him As steve

614
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,880
Speaker 3: As Hutchins Aiden hutchinson did At. Michigan you, know you're

615
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 3: right about the, size and the size may limit him

616
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 3: to certain. Schemes the, size the body type as well

617
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: as the Arm i'm not really well that concerned about

618
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: the arms AS i am the body. Type you, know

619
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: is he a guy that's going to be able to

620
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: put on ten to fifteen pounds over the next three

621
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 3: years and keep that same, explosion keep that same. Quickness

622
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: he's got to start to turn those almost getting there

623
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 3: into sacks into, production you, know To warrant being a

624
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 3: very early, pick which he's going to. BE i like

625
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 3: him as a defensive end in a four man. Front

626
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 3: maybe he can stand over, tackle maybe he can eventually

627
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 3: be a two gap. END i, mean he's not the finished,

628
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 3: product but he does enough things. Well and again he's

629
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 3: a much better player in twenty twenty five than he

630
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 3: was in twenty twenty.

631
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 2: Four, NO i agree with the one hundred. Percent all,

632
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: right let's go to your next, Player. Tony this would

633
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: be number seven on your, list and that Is Sonny

634
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: styles out Of Ohio. STATE i have not finished my

635
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: linebacker work. Yet i'm still working on that AND i

636
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: was hoping to get To sonny before we did this

637
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 2: podcast to conclude my final thoughts on. Him but man,

638
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: LIKE i wouldn't be surprised if he's a top five

639
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 2: player on my. Board to be honest with, you he

640
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: never misses a. Tackle he's always in the right. Place

641
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 2: he's a tackling. Machine he get is good in Coverage

642
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 2: as a former. SAFETY i just think there's not much

643
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: not to like About Sonny.

644
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: Styles he can also blitz the. QUARTERBACK i mean he's

645
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: sort of, like you, know If Avriel reese is One

646
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: Sonny styles is one a in the sense that he

647
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: does everything That reese. Does maybe not as, impactful but

648
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: he's a terrific run. DEFENDER i like the way he

649
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: moves sideline to, sideline probably better Than. Reese he can

650
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 3: rush the. Passer although he wasn't asked all that much

651
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: to do it because they didn't need him to do.

652
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 3: IT i think With Sunny, styles WHEN i really watched the,

653
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 3: FILM i got more out of it THAN i. Expected

654
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: as you, mentioned the former safety gets terrific depth on

655
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 3: his past, drops doesn't have mental, lapses doesn't make bad

656
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 3: plays a Lah Caleb downs says a lot about the

657
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: defensive coaching At Ohio. State and a guy who six'

658
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: four and change two hundred and thirty five pounds will

659
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: easily be able to put on another ten to. Fifteen

660
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: pounds he's an. Athletic guy you know there are, bloodlines

661
00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: there so you know he's got a, football background a

662
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 3: guy with a high upside who again. Has PROGRESSED and

663
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 3: i think he's. SCHEME versatile i think you could use

664
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 3: him as a three four. Outside linebacker as a four

665
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 3: to three, outside linebacker you got to ship them to

666
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: the inside. On occasion he can do that to, have

667
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 3: versatility to the athleticism and just the general football acumen

668
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 3: really puts it all Together For.

669
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 2: Sonny styles and He's Physical tony like, you know you

670
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: say former SAFETY and i say it TOO because i

671
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 2: use it as a comment for his.

672
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: MOVEMENT.

673
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: Skills yep but he's willing to take on blocks like

674
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 2: he'll he'll attack, the line he'll take on pulling guards

675
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: like he is, a physical.

676
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: Physical player he defends the run.

677
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 3: Incredibly well he's he he plays with a violent nature

678
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: in the sense that, you know he's not cheap, shotting

679
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: people but he just arrives on the scene and he

680
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 3: is a jarring hitter, in space, you know not just

681
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: not just in. The crowd, in space he'll bring the

682
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: guy down at the point, of attack which is also

683
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 3: very important because you can't have you can't have broken

684
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 3: tackles and ball carriers picking Up your jeff To Contact.

685
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 2: Hi tony we get to our first player where we're

686
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: gonna have a DISAGREEMENT on i do not have the,

687
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: next player and as a true first round pick, for

688
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: me you. Have HIM and i think it's FUNNY because

689
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 2: I think i was high on him earlier in the

690
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 2: year than.

691
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: You WERE.

692
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: And i HERE'S where i Sit With. Keldrick falk he's your.

693
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 2: NEXT guy i did not think he got better from

694
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: last year to. This year he looked like the same guy,

695
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: to ME and i just don't see the explosion from

696
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 2: him off.

697
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: The line he just SEES these i.

698
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 2: DON'T see i know he's a, bigger guy so you

699
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: can't expect to See That david bailey level. Of EXPLOSIVENESS

700
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: and i, get THAT but i never see him put

701
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: offensive linemen in an. Uncomfortable position and THAT'S why i

702
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: had trouble putting a first round grade. ON him i see,

703
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 2: THE talent i see, THE length i see, THE size

704
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: i see, the POTENTIAL but i couldn't quite get there

705
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: on a first round GRADE because i don't see that,

706
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: consistency production and again. His impact, you know you can

707
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 2: see how offensive liman set against guys that. SCARE them

708
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: i don't see that one offensive lineman line Up Against.

709
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: KELDRIC falk i agree with.

710
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 3: Everything, you said but coming into, The Season keldrick falk

711
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: was the top three player. FOR me i liked him

712
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 3: and his, Offensive Tackle, Xavier chaplain we're at the top of.

713
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: My board chaplain was, a disaster was turned into a third.

714
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: Round prospect he went back. TO school i think he's

715
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 3: Playing For florida state. Next Season, keldrick falk you look at,

716
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 3: the size you look at. The athleticism even scouts had

717
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 3: him created as a very early first round pick coming into.

718
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: The year was a bad Season. At auburn they fired.

719
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 3: The coach, you know they were, losing games whether it

720
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: was bad calls by, the. OFFICIALS whatever i just like.

721
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 3: HIS size i remember the athleticism off of my notes

722
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 3: from the twenty twenty, four season the way he impacted.

723
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: THE games i think he's a scheme. VERSATILE guy i

724
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 3: agree with all of your criticisms. Of him there's no doubt.

725
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: About it i'm not going to sit here and defend

726
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: it other than to SAY that i like what the

727
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: twenty twenty four film was. Was outstanding obviously there were

728
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 3: Issues at Auburn, because Auburn, like clemson really didn't live

729
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 3: up to expectations. This year he's a guy you can

730
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 3: put him at end of a, format front may be

731
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 3: able to play end in a three. Man front some

732
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: people like him insize as an. Interior rusher it's got

733
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 3: to get back to where he was in twenty, twenty

734
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 3: four where he was a feared guy and he was

735
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 3: a constantly behind the line. OF scrimmage i agree. WITH you,

736
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: I mean i don't want to say he's boom, or

737
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 3: bust but there is Risk In keldric fall coming off

738
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty. Five, film yeah.

739
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: It's Funny if tony twenty five, Didn't, HAPPEN tony i

740
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: probably would have a first round grade on him based

741
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: on the twenty twenty, four tape but unfortunately twenty twenty five.

742
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: That happened, BUT look i have a round one slash

743
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: two grade. On him it's not like i'm and it's

744
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 2: one of my higher grades in. That CATEGORY so i

745
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be a. GOOD player i just couldn't

746
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 2: quite pull the trigger on the first. Round pick, All

747
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: right i'm gonna group these next two guys nine and

748
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: ten together because they play the. Same position You Have

749
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: spencer Fano from Utah And francis Mauno. FROM miami i

750
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 2: too have these guys kind of almost touching with, their

751
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 2: tags touching in terms OF how i look.

752
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: At Them but i'm.

753
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: WITH you I have fano Ahead, of marino and, to

754
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: me the difference IS that I thought fano was just

755
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: a little bit of a. SMOOTHER mover I think marino

756
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 2: is a little, bit CLUNKIER and i think you see

757
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 2: that when he has. To Recover when marinoa gets beat

758
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 2: and he has to, recover quickly he just can't get

759
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,399
Speaker 2: his body to change directions quickly enough to. Do THAT

760
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 2: so I like fano's upside a little bit more just

761
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: because of his athleticism and his movement skills out there.

762
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,840
Speaker 3: At TACKLE and i have both guys. AT tackle, i

763
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,760
Speaker 3: mean people talk about these guys. Playing guard. WE'LL see,

764
00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 3: i mean if you are measurements, to short obviously they'll turn.

765
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 3: Into GUARDS but i agree. WITH you, I mean. Fano's

766
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 3: strong even though he weighs Less, than mawioga or his

767
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: Estimated to waig Less, Than mawoga he's still a strong.

768
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: Run blocker he's quick out to the. Second level he.

769
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 3: Can block he's a very athletic, right tackle a very athletic,

770
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: right TACKLE and i put a premium. ON that I.

771
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: LIKE mawyoga i mean, he's big he's also. RELATIVELY athletic

772
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: i don't think he's as effective on the. Second level.

773
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 3: YOU know i talk to people to. SHRINE boy i

774
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 3: wrote in an article about this, essentially sports where a

775
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 3: lot of People have malayoga Ahead, of fano AND everyone

776
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: i talked to, you said now they're. Right there the

777
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: other interesting thing that people told me is that, they

778
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 3: said neither of these guys are worth the third pick of.

779
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 3: THE draft i know we're getting away from talking about

780
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 3: first round picks and things. Like, that no, that's fine but,

781
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: you know NO one i spoke with but that either,

782
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 3: right Tackle either Spencer For Nola francis maloga are worth

783
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,040
Speaker 3: the third selection of, the draft which kind of, tells

784
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: you you know how starved this draft is for offensive.

785
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: Tackle talent these guys, are good but they're. Not dominant

786
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 3: it may be even a situation with these guys where

787
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: they're gonna need some time before they're ready to step

788
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: on and be consistent Starters. On sunday, all right and.

789
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 2: This is gonna be our pronunciation guy of, the week

790
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: even though fans out there SEE the g it's pronounced

791
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 2: LIKE an.

792
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: N why i have, no idea but It Is.

793
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: Maui NOAH so i for the fans, out there you're

794
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: gonna see that name on paper a lot over the

795
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 2: next couple, Of Months maui noah as we try to

796
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: learn all the pronunciations on. These guys, moving forward, All right, Next.

797
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 2: GUY tony i went back and FORTH. On tj parker

798
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 2: At A clemson. A bunch i had him as a first.

799
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 2: Round grade then it ended up sliding him down as

800
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: like my first guy in the. NEXT group i. LIKE

801
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: him i think he's a really. GOOD player i just

802
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: don't think he's gonna be better than a. GOOD player

803
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: I just i'm not sure he's gonna be a great

804
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: player because he doesn't have that kind of bend and

805
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: burst to turn the.

806
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: Corner OUTSIDE but I.

807
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 2: Think Tj parker's actually we talked about falk being more

808
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 2: of a boomer.

809
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: BUST guy I. Think tj parker is a very. Safe pick, he's.

810
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: Big, he's long he'll set, the edge he's gonna be a.

811
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 2: Pocket crusher he's gonna be a. Power rusher, to me

812
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,280
Speaker 2: you know what you're GETTING.

813
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 3: With.

814
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: Tj parker so if.

815
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 2: You're picking him in a round fifteen or so in,

816
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: this draft or twelve, Or whatever i'm fine.

817
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: With that you're gonna get a very good. FOOTBALL player I.

818
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: Love parker coming into. The SEASON when i watched him

819
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 3: at arm's length during the SEASON and i saw, THE

820
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: stats i, Was, like wow this. Is terrible but that

821
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 3: was the whole the situation with The entire. Clemson PROGRAM

822
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 3: then i watched, The film, i'm like you, know what

823
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: it wasn't because of lack. Of effort this guy was

824
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 3: not mailing. It in this guy showed a lot. Of

825
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 3: ability he showed the ability to. Impact games why the players,

826
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: WEREN'T there i, don't know. Excuse me and then he

827
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 3: showed a lot of the same skills During The. Senior

828
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: bowl it wasn't like he went To The senior bowl

829
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,360
Speaker 3: and mailed. IT in i mean he was. Getting pressure

830
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: you saw, the explosion you saw. THE quickness i think

831
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 3: it's gonna be, you know a situation where you're either

832
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 3: gonna have a very defined one gap system if you

833
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: line them up at defensive End Of dwight free any type,

834
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: of situation or you're gonna stand him. Over tackle but

835
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: he can do both and he can rush. The passer

836
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 3: it may just be, a situation a change, in scenery

837
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 3: a change in coaching to get the best out of.

838
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: THIS guy i like. HIS upside i like what he's

839
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: show in, The past like the fact that he went

840
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: To The senior bowl and. He competed he didn't metle,

841
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: it in so obviously he knew what people. Were saying

842
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 3: and he can cause an impact on the on the

843
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 3: front level of defense in a variety, of ways not

844
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 3: just as a, pass strusher as a guy that can

845
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 3: get out into space and pursue. The action people talk about.

846
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 3: Pass rushers, that's great, you know but sometimes you've got to,

847
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 3: change direction you got to go run ten fifteen yards

848
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 3: and backside pursuit to run down the ball handler because

849
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: you've got. Responsibilities there you got to help set. The

850
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: edge parker does those things. Relatively well it just didn't

851
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 3: show up on the stat sheet. This year didn't show

852
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 3: up on the stat Sheet For, ruben bain who everybody Loves, Either,

853
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 3: Now tony i'm.

854
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: WITH you i think he's gonna be a good. FOOTBALL

855
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: player I. Think tj parker is a. Good PLAYER so

856
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 2: i don't think our opinion on him is that. Much

857
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: different it's just a matter of where you have him ranked,

858
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 2: next guy first, Wide Receiver Tony. CARNELL tait I think

859
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 2: i'm probably gonna have him a little bit higher in

860
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 2: my first round rankings.

861
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: Than you.

862
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 2: THAT'S fine i don't think he's a, You Know elikue,

863
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: neighbors level you know player the way we talked about

864
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 2: that trio a couple of years ago in. The draft,

865
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: but look, he's long he's, contested catches he's a good.

866
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 2: Route runner the only thing he doesn't do and this

867
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 2: IS why i don't think he's in that elik neighbors type.

868
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 2: Of category he's not an Elite route he's not in

869
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: the elite yards after. Catch guy you know. He does

870
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 2: he's not explosive with the ball in. His hands BUT

871
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: otherwise i think you're gonna get a very safe Player in,

872
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: carnell team or if YOU'RE an, ffl team you know

873
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 2: exactly what he's gonna, give you and you know you're

874
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: gonna get, a good well coached wide receiver coming Out

875
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 2: Of ohio state as.

876
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 3: We've seen in. The past, YOU know i think the

877
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,799
Speaker 3: explosion is not isn't just running after. The catch, you

878
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 3: know You Watch. Carnell tate he basically plays to. One

879
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: speed he doesn't have, a burst he doesn't have. Great

880
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: quickness but he is a. PHENOMENAL receiver i mean.

881
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 2: He is he is fast enough to he's fast enough

882
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: to get over the top though he will run.

883
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: Past people he's, sneaky fast but you know it's all.

884
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: One speed HE'S not i agree. With that he is

885
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: just an incredible. Pass catcher tracks the ball in, the

886
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 3: air great focus, and concentration, great timing knows when to

887
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: high point the ball when they get up and come

888
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 3: away with the. Contested grab he plays like a. BIG

889
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 3: guy i want to see what his actual. MEASUREMENTS are

890
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 3: i think last year at Junior timing day he was,

891
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: six three one hundred and ninety, Five pounds but he

892
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 3: plays like a two hundred and ten. Pound receiver he'll

893
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 3: get up in, the crowd he'll take, A pounding he'll

894
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: come down with. The ball the focus and concentration. Is

895
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: incredible had a good quarterback throwing on, the ball had

896
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 3: a good teammate on the. Other side but even going

897
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: back to twenty twenty four in, THE playoffs i mean

898
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 3: he was coming up during important moments of, the games

899
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: making big Receptions For. Ohio state he did that last

900
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: year as well as you stay, you know in the,

901
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: deep field in the, end zone as well as the.

902
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 3: Short field people may knock him because he's probably not

903
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 3: going to run in the. Four threes he's just as

904
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,240
Speaker 3: Far as, i'm concerned he IS an nfl already RECEIVER

905
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: that i would be surprised if he's Not starting week

906
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 3: one and not productive early IN his. Nfl career one hundred.

907
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: Percent agree, all right your, Next Guy Tony. Peter woods

908
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,800
Speaker 2: this is another guy that had right below. The threshold and,

909
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 2: you KNOW when i Looked at, woods's Tape. Unlike FALK

910
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: when I, WATCHED falk i was more impressed with the

911
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: raw PHYSICAL tools i Think with WOODS than i Was.

912
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 2: With fock but then you look at the overall consistency,

913
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 2: and production, you're, like well why didn't you just? Win

914
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 2: more like you look, at it, it's like why aren't

915
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: you beating these guys? More frequently so THAT'S why i

916
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: couldn't get him quite into the. First round, but man

917
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: you see the physical talent with. This guy you will

918
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 2: not find a defensive tackle with many more Tools Than.

919
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: Peter woods that's why they used them in the offensive

920
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 3: backfield a lot, of, Kids right THAT'S why i used

921
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 3: them as a block and they damned the ball and

922
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 3: he'd run the ball because he is an outstanding athlete and,

923
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: he's explosive and he's a, gap penetrator not the. Biggest

924
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 3: guy he's more of, a quick explosive guy as opposed

925
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 3: to a. Power guy he's not going to bull rushing

926
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: offensive lineman off. The ball he's a four. Man, FRONT basically,

927
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 3: i say one gap tackle in a. Format front if

928
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna use them in a three, man front you,

929
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: probably can but it's a situation where your linebackers up

930
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 3: at the line, Of scrimmage so it's a three man

931
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 3: front that's basically a one gap, type system if. You

932
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 3: will the athleticism. IS incredible i mean he's explosive off

933
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 3: the snap with a great. First step he keep plays

934
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: with great, pad level he uses. His, HANDS well i agree.

935
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 3: WITH you i mean IT'S.

936
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: Like.

937
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 3: Tj parker it's like Most of. Clumson players where was?

938
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 3: The production, you, know again when you watch, the film

939
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: it's not due to. BLACK effort i wish you would

940
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 3: have gone To The senior bowl or A Postgame all

941
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: star game as. His. TEAMMATE did i Think what? Parker

942
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: is he was good in twenty. Twenty four he showed

943
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 3: a lot of those lessons in twenty. Twenty five the upside,

944
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 3: is there, you know it's just a matter of coaching

945
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 3: that upside out of him, and saying, you, know listen

946
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 3: you got to play up to your level. Of ability

947
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 3: every single time we saw, his teammate The montre k

948
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 3: part At The. Shrine bowl it's the same thing with

949
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: The montree. K part who's going to be a late?

950
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 3: Round pick, you know a six to seventh. Round pick

951
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: the skill, is there it's just, you know you got

952
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 3: to get it out. Of him and the one thing

953
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: that these guys all have in common is they Played,

954
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 3: for clemson which has been an. Underperforming program so you

955
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: have to or AT least i take that.

956
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: Into, CONSIDERATION yeah i thought the quickness of you mentioned

957
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: It With, woods tony like just is, his twitchiness his

958
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,320
Speaker 2: ability to move side the side and. Change directions is a,

959
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: big guy really impressive your final first. Round PICK and

960
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 2: i have a couple of Guys that i'll throw on

961
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 2: that at on my list and they're close. On Yours

962
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 2: jordan tyson, Wide receiver wide receiver Out Of. ARIZONA state

963
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 2: i think what impressed to me, About him TONY and

964
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: i to double check, the Numbers and i'm curious to

965
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 2: see what he measures when he goes and measures at.

966
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: The combine he's a guy that looks like a small

967
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 2: receiver when you see how, he plays but he actually

968
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 2: measures as a pretty. BIG receiver i think six two, two,

969
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,719
Speaker 2: five right is that what he measured into something? Like

970
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: that so, for me he has a lot. Of twitchiness

971
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 2: he's a good, route runner he catches, the ball he's an,

972
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: injury history which is what pushes him down a little bit,

973
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 2: FOR me i think for you. As WELL but i

974
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 2: do think he is a chance to be a very good.

975
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: Wide receiver it's a Lot Like.

976
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 3: CARNEL tait, i mean he's not gonna Blow past people's

977
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 3: not a true vertical. Wide out he's just an. INCREDIBLE

978
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,160
Speaker 3: receiver i mean he's a natural, pass catcher runs. Good

979
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 3: routes if you watch, the film opponents were king. On

980
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 3: him yet he's still come away with the ball and

981
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 3: knows how to come back to, the football which is

982
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 3: important rather than waiting for the past to get. To

983
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 3: him consistent, hand catcher which is something that you look

984
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 3: At Like carnell tit extends his hands and makes the

985
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: reception Away, from retherland letting the football get, into him

986
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: which leads to a lot. OF drops, i mean there's

987
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 3: a lot of things to like about, his game the

988
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,640
Speaker 3: ability to separate through, his routes the ability, to focus.

989
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 3: The concentration the, injury history which goes back to twenty,

990
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: twenty four is a, big concern especially for a guy that's,

991
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 3: a taller thinner type of white out that doesn't have

992
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 3: that vertical speed it'll. Be interesting THAT'S why i, don't think,

993
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: you know people think he's going to be a top.

994
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 3: TEN pick i don't. See It What. JORDAN tyson i

995
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 3: don't see the way he stacks up on. My board,

996
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 3: you know It's Like. Corey davis Every When corey davis

997
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 3: was selected with the fifthnick of. THE draft i mean similar.

998
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 3: To that he's got a lot. Of skill could be

999
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 3: a really. Good receiver could he be a number one

1000
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: wide out IN? The, nfl yes in the. RIGHT system i,

1001
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 3: LIKE him i just don't love him.

1002
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: All right there's only one, Defensive, player TONY that i

1003
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: had as a top ten and you do not our

1004
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,920
Speaker 2: tough first. Round pick rather and you, do not and

1005
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: That's Man. TEW delane i rewatched him again. This morning

1006
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: he just doesn't allow guys to catch. The ball and

1007
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 2: we'll see what he tests and he. MEASURES that i

1008
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: know that's gonna be a. Big deal but simply working off, The,

1009
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: tape tony he looks like the best cornerback in this class.

1010
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: To me he looks like a first round corner.

1011
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 2: To me SO until i see those MEASUREMENTS and i

1012
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: see how he, you know tests and all, That stuff

1013
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: i'm gonna have a. First round great on. THE guy,

1014
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 2: i thought he just played phenomenal football. This year he's

1015
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 2: the next guy on. Your list he's literally the next.

1016
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 2: Man UP so i know you like him. As WELL

1017
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: but i decided to kind of put him over the

1018
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 2: barrier there just because he played so well, this year.

1019
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 3: And, you know he was a good player back going

1020
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: back to his Days In. VIRGINIA tech i noticed him

1021
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 3: as a sophomore as A sophomore. Virginia techo that's when

1022
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 3: he first jumped on my screen and then on. My

1023
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 3: board and then what happens the, following year people just

1024
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 3: stopped throwing the ball in. His, direction YEAH and i agree.

1025
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: WITH you, i mean he was. Good man he was good.

1026
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,399
Speaker 3: In zone he's good with his back to, The ball

1027
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 3: he's good facing. The action. LET'S see i mean for

1028
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 3: a guy to be an early first round pick, at cornerback,

1029
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: FOR me i like to see him to be six.

1030
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 3: Foot tall i'd like to see him running the. FOURTH

1031
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 3: force i hope the lane does the ladder runs in the.

1032
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 3: FOURTH force i don't know here's gonna be six. FOOT

1033
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: tall i like, the lane but the measurements THE way

1034
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: i know, of, them right now Or what i'm, being

1035
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 3: told basically pushes, him down not out of the, first

1036
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 3: round but out of a solid having a solid first.

1037
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,120
Speaker 2: Round grade, no LOOK and i think. That's fair but

1038
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: testing a corner is, very important. All right one OTHER

1039
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: guy i have, in there and he's very close for you.

1040
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: As well he's the fourth guy off. YOUR list I

1041
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 2: Have mikayle lemon with the. First Round great tony and

1042
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,720
Speaker 2: what impressed ME when i watched HIM and i didn't

1043
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: coming into THE r i thought he was kind of

1044
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 2: a second round. Slot, guy man his run after the

1045
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 2: catch for guy, THAT weighs i think he waged one

1046
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 2: to eighty five or whatever.

1047
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: HE measured i think that's what the. NUMBER was i

1048
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 1: don't having in front.

1049
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: Of me he was great breaking tackles and running after the,

1050
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: Catch man like HE'S just i think he can play

1051
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: outside a. LITTLE bit i think he'll be primarily a

1052
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 2: slot guy in, the PROS which i know you don't

1053
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 2: know if you have to slock guy with the first.

1054
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 2: ROUND pick i, GET that, i UNDERSTAND but i do

1055
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: think he can. Play outside but his physicality and just

1056
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: ability with the ball in his hands really stood out

1057
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: to me.

1058
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 3: A Lot Like. Jordan addison not, really big not, super fast. But,

1059
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 3: explosive yeah you talk, about physicality he's. VERY confident i

1060
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 3: mean he wants. The football he competes for. The football

1061
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 3: love is, route running the way he separates through his

1062
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 3: routes again fundamentally sound catching, the ball doesn't let the

1063
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: pass get, inside him consistently extends his hands and looks

1064
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 3: the ball in immediately he turns. IT up i love

1065
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: the way. HE competes i love the way, you know

1066
00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 3: he wants. The ball he wants to be the man you,

1067
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 3: know again for ME want i want a first round

1068
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 3: receiver to be at that six. Foot level if they're

1069
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 3: not at the six, foot level if they're, five ten,

1070
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,479
Speaker 3: five eleven they better run in the, four threes which

1071
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 3: IS why i think he's gonna be a. GOOD receive

1072
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 3: i think he's gonna be a top, twenty pick a

1073
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 3: top twenty five pick. At least but THAT'S why i

1074
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 3: don't have a solid first round great.

1075
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 1: On, HIM no i think.

1076
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 2: That's fair and this is the guy that you're higher

1077
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 2: on now that he was at the start of. The

1078
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 2: year he's moved up your, List, Here tony and. IT'S

1079
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: funny i went through his tape late, last WEEK and

1080
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: i got through the first half of the Year and,

1081
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: i'm like how are people talking about this guy as

1082
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 2: a first. Round pick he catches all his passes at

1083
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 2: the line. OF scrimmage i don't see a lot as a,

1084
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: route RUNNER and i was. Very unimpressed then the second

1085
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 2: half of the Year and, i'm like, all, Right now

1086
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 2: i'm starting to. See something he's, running routes, getting separation,

1087
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: getting downfield and he's a. Willing BLOCKER so i put

1088
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 2: tenk over the edge for me ONLY because i saw

1089
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 2: a lot of improvement from him in the second half

1090
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 2: of the YEAR and i see how that arrow really is,

1091
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,719
Speaker 2: pointing UP and i see the potential as, a real

1092
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 2: true two way tight end In The National football league

1093
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: with the athleticism of an f.

1094
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Tight end so that got me a.

1095
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,919
Speaker 3: LITTLE excited i completely agree, with you and you said

1096
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 3: it right, the athleticism and the athleticism basically is shown

1097
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,239
Speaker 3: in his past catching in the way he lays out for.

1098
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 3: Difficult receptions you know It's not he's a guy who.

1099
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 3: Can adjust i've seen him extend to make a lot of.

1100
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 3: Tough catches he. Gives effort blocking needs some. Improvement there

1101
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 3: but it's not due to lack. Of effort it's just

1102
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 3: a matter of, you know how soon is, you know

1103
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 3: Remember the? Smith song how soon? Is now how soon

1104
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 3: before he reaches his? Upside potential are you willing? TO

1105
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 3: wait i agree. WITH you, I mean i watched the

1106
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 3: Film with SADIQ and i got a lot more out

1107
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: of HIM than, i expected especially later in, the season

1108
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 3: especially making. Difficult receptions and they didn't have a great receiving.

1109
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 3: Cor There dantae moore didn't have a lot of weapons

1110
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 3: to throw to a lot of, impactful weapons and It

1111
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 3: was sadiq all. THE time i agree, with you a

1112
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 3: little bit of a. Younger guy the upside. Is there

1113
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of when you're gonna roll the

1114
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 3: dice and take him in the? First, Round yep i'm.

1115
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 2: With you and then the final GUY that i gave

1116
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: a first round, GRADE too i just watched him, This,

1117
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: morning TONY and i was. Really impressed he doesn't get beaten,

1118
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: pass protection and he is a mauler in the. Run

1119
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: Game and i'm gonna try not to butcher the last.

1120
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 2: Name here so this is part two of our learn

1121
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 2: How to pronounce names part of the today's Show The

1122
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: penn State, Guard, VEGA iana i believe that. Is.

1123
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: CORRECT iana i Just think tony he's, a really really.

1124
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: Safe player i'm not sure he's going to be, a

1125
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: SUPERSTAR and i know then you need, to, Say, well

1126
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: john why you put a first round greade?

1127
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: On HIM but i just think he's gonna be a

1128
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 1: really good.

1129
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: Run BLOCKER and i Watched The ohio state game specifically

1130
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 2: because we all know how good That Interior ohio state

1131
00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,800
Speaker 2: defensive line is and he'll want to.

1132
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 1: Dominated them they didn't sniff anything In That Penn State ohio.

1133
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 2: State game as Much As ohio state took It To

1134
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 2: penn state in, that game it wasn't because. Of THAT

1135
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: so i was really impressed with with. That TAPE so

1136
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 2: i have him as kind of like my last true first.

1137
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: Round grade HE would i.

1138
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 3: Don't know if, you noticed but he was at the

1139
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: players hotel the shrinebel because he's trying TO not i

1140
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: got to speak with Him And drew shelton for a,

1141
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 3: little bit and they're. Interesting, Guys listen he's not gonna

1142
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 3: be a good run blocker IN. The nfl he's gonna

1143
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 3: be a great. Un blocker he's GOT an. Nfl build

1144
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 3: he bends, his knees he's a, leverage blocker. He's powerful

1145
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 3: the only THING is i don't think he moves well

1146
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 3: enough to be a in his own. Type SYSTEM so

1147
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 3: i think that he's not a, bad mover he's not a.

1148
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,919
Speaker 3: TOP mover i think that limits him to the type

1149
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,759
Speaker 3: of systems and the type of availability form and, the

1150
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,719
Speaker 3: versatility which IS why i don't have a first round grade.

1151
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: On him have You Done emmanuel pregnant Yet? OF oregon i.

1152
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: Have Not you let me know when you Can do

1153
00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 3: pregnant And compare Pregnant to ione and let me know what.

1154
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 3: You THINK because I watched PREGNANT when i Did my.

1155
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:17,959
Speaker 3: OREGON film i was blown away by absolutely blown away.

1156
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 3: By Him so i'm gonna be interested what you Think

1157
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 3: about pregnant compared To The Penn. STATE guard i Have

1158
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 3: The Penn state guard, rated, higher YEP but i think

1159
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,160
Speaker 3: the spread between the two is not as much as

1160
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 3: a lot of. People think, all.

1161
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 1: Right just a couple. OF games i want To Mention

1162
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: tony jermond McCoy much.

1163
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,479
Speaker 2: LIKE you i have him just outside with the first,

1164
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 2: round grade and it's just the questions of how healthy

1165
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: is and what he looks like AFTER The ACL if

1166
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: i knew he was HEALTHY and i AND if i

1167
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 2: saw what he did in twenty, twenty four even with

1168
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 2: just like three or four games with twenty, Twenty five

1169
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 2: i'd have a first round pick.

1170
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,399
Speaker 1: On him but the injury just made me a little

1171
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:52,880
Speaker 1: bit queasy.

1172
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 3: About it if he played half of twenty twenty five

1173
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 3: the way he played in twenty, twenty four he's the,

1174
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 3: first cornerback he's the highest rated, corn back and he's

1175
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 3: a potential top. Ten pick there's no doubt. ABOUT it,

1176
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 3: I mean, i agree he's the guy who he. Shows

1177
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 3: SPEED what i liked about him is the physicality and

1178
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 3: the ability to make plays with his back to. THE ball,

1179
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 3: i mean, You know delane is good with his back

1180
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 3: to the ball as Good and zone McCoy was constantly making.

1181
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: Plays downfield is back to, the ball getting his head,

1182
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,360
Speaker 3: back around tracking the pass in the year and defending.

1183
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 3: The throw so, YOU know i agree, With you but

1184
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 3: he's missed an. Entire season you don't know how he's going.

1185
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 3: To return, you know the injury history is, a question

1186
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: which probably Means Why howard Rosmand The philadelphia eagles the

1187
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: first round tournament to.

1188
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: A star yeah or, or yeah either Of the Eagles, the,

1189
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 2: cowboys Right the cowboys love taking those injured, guys too

1190
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 2: and then they, you know Whether It's jalen Smith From

1191
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: notre dame or.

1192
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: Or whatever last year they picked the corner of the.

1193
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: Tall. Kids right the only, thing is but you have a.

1194
00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 3: Filled up but, You Know harry Roseman. Takes landa Dickerson

1195
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: Takes john campbell and they turned into, you know, you

1196
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,520
Speaker 3: know pre pre, injury players and they're.

1197
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: They're Dominant the eagles are a lot better. At it To,

1198
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: keviny raw you're.

1199
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,320
Speaker 2: Absolutely Right draft season are presented By mood he is

1200
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: a proud part Of The New. York giants he died

1201
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 2: in the brightest minds that turn today's risk into. Tomorrow's

1202
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 2: Opportunities learnmore moodies. Dot com TONY and i will be

1203
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,239
Speaker 2: back with another show. Next week then we're gonna Have

1204
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 2: our combine preview air Probably that Monday of, combine week

1205
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: and then we'll Do a combine recap the. Following week

1206
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 2: so we'll, huddle up we'll figure out what next week'

1207
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,320
Speaker 2: show is gonna. Look, like tony any, final, THOUGHTS no,

1208
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 2: i mean, you know.

1209
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 3: It's ironic just get Off The. Super bowl everybody's. At

1210
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 3: side now there's kind of a lull in the action

1211
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 3: right because there's not much. Going on you gotta wait

1212
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: till the combine the draft board will be. Is updated

1213
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 3: that essentially sports will check that out starting to get

1214
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 3: the scouting reports, in there so that'll be a lot.

1215
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 3: Of Fun but I'm sure JOHN and i will figure

1216
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: something out for. Next.

1217
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: Week, yes well and by, THE way i should give me, Your.

1218
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 2: Summary tony you had fifteen guys with first. ROUND grades

1219
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: i had.

1220
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 3: Fourteen fourteen you were at fourteen.

1221
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 2: NINE thirteen i had one fewer than, You did so

1222
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: give me your summary of what this group of first

1223
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 2: round grades look like as a as.

1224
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: A unit the summary.

1225
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 3: Is this, you know unless you have the first pick

1226
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 3: of the draft and you have the opportunity To Draft,

1227
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 3: fernanda mendoza it's. Not good it's not a good year

1228
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 3: and not a good draft to be at the top

1229
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 3: because there is no. Exceptional talent there's no franchise, tie

1230
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: players no. Generational TALENT when i did, my board it's

1231
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 3: it's actually very deep in the SENSE that i have

1232
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 3: gotten more guys with draft ball grades than there are,

1233
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: draft PICKS and i think that's because you're seeing a

1234
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,440
Speaker 3: lot of the sixth and seventh year senior start to.

1235
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: FILTER out i think there's gonna be a lot of

1236
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 3: depth in different areas starting in late in the, first

1237
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 3: round really through the. Third round and really the board

1238
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 3: shouldn't change all that much unless somebody throws a clunker

1239
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,399
Speaker 3: in at the combine and, You Know carnell tate can't

1240
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 3: run under four five five or something. Like that you

1241
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 3: know they're really you shouldn't go into Before the combine

1242
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 3: with fourteen first round grads and come out of the

1243
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: combine with twenty you first. Round grades it doesn't work,

1244
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:06,239
Speaker 3: like that.

1245
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 2: All right and, Then, finally tony let's say something positive about,

1246
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,799
Speaker 2: this GROUP because i do think you have some very

1247
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 2: good players at positions where you're traditionally you're not getting

1248
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,640
Speaker 2: really good players at those positions early in.

1249
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 3: The draft. That's it and YOU know i talked about.

1250
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 3: This elsewhere Look At carson swessinger. This, Year Okay carson

1251
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 3: swesssinger was a dominant defensive off ball linebacker who teams

1252
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,800
Speaker 3: were thinking about late in the. First round he was

1253
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 3: taken with the first pick of the second round wouldn't

1254
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: you love to Have A carson sweessinger on, your team on,

1255
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 3: your defense leading, your defense in the middle of. Your

1256
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 3: defense and like, you said you know, people Say Well,

1257
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 3: rville reese, you know off, ball linebacker Not Traditional. Caleb

1258
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 3: dunston but you get a guy like that in the

1259
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 3: middle of, your defense, you know that can control, the

1260
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,320
Speaker 3: game that can lead, the defense that is constantly. Making plays,

1261
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 3: you know there's great value. To that and you're. ABSOLUTELY right,

1262
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 3: i mean it's not a traditional year where you have

1263
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 3: got cornerbacks or left tackles or great pass rushers at.

1264
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 3: The top, BUT still, i mean Whether It's, caleb downs

1265
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 3: whether It's R bill reeves where you know you go.

1266
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,919
Speaker 3: Sunny styles, you know these guys are not your traditional,

1267
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 3: you know you're not going to see a lot of

1268
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 3: highlight reels because they're making plays. With mahinlascams but they

1269
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 3: do a necessary job and they do it. Exceptionally well

1270
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 3: tony will talk to you. Next week look forward. To

1271
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:30,720
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