1 00:00:01,160 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: me Tommy di Dario Zombies four Man. It has been 3 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: one of the biggest movies of the summer. So I 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: had to bring on someone that has been a part 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: of the franchise from the very beginning right. Today's guest 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 1: is the very talented Meg Donnelly, who has played the 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,799 Speaker 1: fan favorite character of Addison in the last four Zombies movies. 8 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: And you may also know Meg from her role in 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: another beloved series, American Housewife, or maybe you have been 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: streaming her debut EP called Dying Art Like I Had. 11 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Meg has come up in the Disney world and she 12 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: is stepping into her era of not always playing it 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: so safe, of showing sides to her that are real 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: and vulnerable and honest. And we are covering so many 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: things today that I think you're gonna listen to and say, 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 1: oh my god, I can so relate to that. So 17 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: let's see if today we can get Meg to say 18 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 1: something that she has never said before. Meg Donnelly, how 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: are you today? I am so good. Thank you for 20 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: making some time to join the show. You are booked 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: and busy, You're all over the place. 22 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, but yeah, thank you so much for having me. 23 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm super excited. We have a lot to 24 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: get into. I mean, your new EP is absolutely phenomenal, 25 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: and we are going to dive all into that. It 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: is so much fun. I was just telling you I 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: was listening to it in the gym, and you cover 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: a lot. There's a lot of range and emotion and 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: things to talk about on that EP. But before we 30 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: get to that, let's celebrate you and Zombies four for 31 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: a minute. Because boom, it came out number one, like 32 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: instantly took over the world. It was all I was 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: seeing on Twitter and social media and the internet for 34 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: weeks and weeks and still seeing it, which is just 35 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: so cool. What does that franchise mean to you since 36 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: you've been a part of it from the. 37 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: Beginning, it means the world? 38 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, on Zombies one, I don't think 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: milone I ever could imagine what it would become now, 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,559 Speaker 3: And it's just so surreal that we're here at four 41 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: and it's definitely like the best that it's ever been. 42 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 3: I just feel like this reaction has just been wild. 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,119 Speaker 3: I think because of social media now and because of streaming, 44 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: Like it's just exceeded all of my expectations. Like, I 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: think we knew it was going to be well received, 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 3: and I think we knew fans were gonna love it, 47 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: but not like this, Like I have never in a 48 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: million years thought that it would it would be like this. 49 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: So I'm just really happy and really excited. 50 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: Well, and what's cool is people of all ages love it, 51 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 1: Like I feel like I've seen so many different demographics 52 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: talking about it because it just brings joy to people. 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think what's really cool about the movie. 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: I mean it's very camp and you know, it's very 55 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 3: like there's all these monsters and they're singing and they're dancing. 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, like it's I 57 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: think the message is just really incredible about acceptance and 58 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 3: treating others the way you want to be treated. And 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 3: I think, you know, if we do it in a 60 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 3: fun way, that's tangible for But I think it's also 61 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: a message that will never like grow old. I think 62 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: anybody at any age can be reminded of it. 63 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 2: And they're also just fun to watch. Yeah, so I 64 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: think that's why. But I also I don't know, Yeah, 65 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: it's wild and. 66 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: You are singing, you are dancing, you are acting, you 67 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: put in the work for these movies. What's something that's 68 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: challenging doing the zombies films that maybe we would be 69 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: surprised by. 70 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: Hmmm, I don't know what's challenging. I think probably the 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: most challenging part is the early call times because a 72 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: lot of times we like Chandler had it the worst 73 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 3: because that werewolf makeup and tattoos and her fangs like 74 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: all of that. 75 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: I think her call times were usually like. 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: Three thirty four am ooh yeah, really early. So mine 77 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: were like five six, which is still very early, but 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 3: not that early. 79 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: So I think the hardest part is, honestly the call times. 80 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: Obviously, like the dance days and the music days were 81 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 3: like always really challenging just to keep your energy up, 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 3: but those were also the most fun. 83 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, probably the early call times. 84 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Were you putting in your coffee order, bright and early. 85 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: Yes, And also in New Zealand they have like coffee 86 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 3: trucks like the whole day, so yeah, I definitely like, 87 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: I'm like a fiend for coffee, so that definitely didn't 88 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: help my addiction. 89 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 1: You're like I will have all day, oh my god, 90 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: five coffees a day. 91 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: I know. 92 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 3: Every time someone would come up and be like, do 93 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 3: you want another coffee? 94 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: I was like, now I can't say no, I have 95 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 2: to say yes. 96 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 1: Incredible, that is incredible. Where are You're not from the 97 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: East Coast? Are you? I am? Where are you from? 98 00:04:39,960 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: Because I'm hearing coffee and it sounds a little Italian? 99 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I'm from New York. 100 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: You're from New York. I'm like, I hear, I hear 101 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: the East. 102 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: Coast and you yeah, where are you from? 103 00:04:49,680 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: Originally I am from New Jersey, but I live in 104 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: New York. Now I've been here forever. 105 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: Where in Jersey little. 106 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: Town called Berkeley Heights, I doubt you've heard of it. 107 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: Yes, I so all of my families in Jersey, and 108 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 3: for a while I lived in like Pee Pack Gladstone, 109 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: Oh yeah yeah, and then also in Morristown. 110 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's where my sister is, right. 111 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 3: On the green Yeah, oh my god, right above the Starbucks. 112 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 3: That's like right there where like the is. 113 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: And yes, yes, I knew I heard that in you. 114 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew I was going to say, 115 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: like maybe Jersey, New York. But some people don't like 116 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: when I throw Jersey in so you. 117 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 2: Know, I love Jersey. I'll always represent Jersey. 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: All right, good good, Oh my god, I am obsessed 119 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: with this conversation already. Do you do you feel happy 120 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 1: with how Zombies four ended? 121 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 3: Super yeah. I think it was really cool because Zen Madison. 122 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 3: In the script, originally it was Zed Madison saying vows 123 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 3: to each other basically like almost like marriage vowels, where 124 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 3: it was like we're, you know, committing to each other 125 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: for the rest of our lives, like we now know that, 126 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: like we're together forever, and it was just like us 127 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: saying it to each other. But then they put an 128 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 3: a no doubt about it because without like the little 129 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: ad libs off like love were seventeen, it's like basically 130 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 3: us saying vows to each other. So when they changed 131 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 3: it and took out like those ad libs, it just 132 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 3: became this really beautiful, amazing moment between Zed and Addison, 133 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 3: And not only was the scenery amazing, but it was 134 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 3: one of my favorite days of filming, Like Milon and 135 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 3: I were just there and it was just a very 136 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 3: full circle moment. And I think just ending and wrapping 137 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: up the movie with the four of us walking off 138 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 3: into the. 139 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 2: Sun, that was just like it just couldn't have been better. 140 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was beautiful to watch. And I know 141 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: there were some alternate endings that were shot. I've heard 142 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: like maybe four or five. Did you shoot any alternate endings? 143 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: No, that was just Malachi and Freya. Yeah, they shot 144 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: a bunch of different endings of you know, kind of 145 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: what the hug looks like, what the cliffhanger looks like. Yeah, 146 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 3: because originally in the script, like Victor and Nova actually 147 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 3: had a moment where they kissed, and then we Myleon 148 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 3: and I didn't kiss in the first movie, and I 149 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 3: think it was just way more like innocent and just 150 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 3: you know, I don't think they we wanted to slow 151 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: burn the that moment and just have them hug for now. 152 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 3: Also there you know kids, So I think it would 153 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 3: it was just better if they just like hugged. 154 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 2: It just made it more intimate. 155 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: But but yeah, there was like a bunch of different 156 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 3: versions for the ending. 157 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: I know everybody's like, please release them. We want to 158 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: see them all. 159 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: Maybe, I know, I know, maybe one day. 160 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: Maybe one day. Do you do you really feel like 161 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: this is the end of Zombies for you? 162 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: I don't know. I definitely don't think so. 163 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: Honestly, I during Zombies three, like I mourned that whole 164 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: process so because I thought that was the last. 165 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: One and then it wasn't. 166 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 3: So like, honestly, I have no idea, Like you never know, 167 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: I think if I'm pretty confident, I have no idea. 168 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: I have heard nothing, but I'm pretty confident in a 169 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: Zombies five happening, just because of the reaction already from 170 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 3: the movie and it hasn't been out for a month 171 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 3: yet and it's just been incredible. But I think Milo 172 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 3: and I definitely want to be behind the scenes again, 173 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 3: like definitely as executive producers. 174 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 2: So we'll definitely be there. 175 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 3: I don't know if we'll be on screen, but we 176 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 3: definitely will be involved until the end of the movies. 177 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: So but you know, it's really cool that, you know, 178 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 3: Nova and Victor have their own journey kind of sets 179 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 3: them up. 180 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: So I just am excited to see where that goes. 181 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, and how exciting that you get to be a 182 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: creative mind behind something that you grew and you brought 183 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: to what it is today and now you're like making decisions. 184 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: It's so surreal. 185 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, on Zombies one, I feel like Milo and I 186 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 3: wanted to have creative put input, and we always did, 187 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 3: and we always had like our opinions and like because 188 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: we cared about ze Nadison so much and also just 189 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: the world of zombies. But now we actually get to 190 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 3: do that and not just talk about it, but we 191 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 3: actually get to like have say and have change. And 192 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 3: Disney was just so collaborative and so amazing and we 193 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 3: felt so hurt, and yeah, it was just really cool. 194 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: So do you think if you know, you'll be behind 195 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: the scenes, but if they're like, hey, we want to 196 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,079 Speaker 1: have you in some scenes, like you're not opposed, No. 197 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 3: Definitely not opposed. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what that's 198 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,400 Speaker 3: gonna look like. But yeah, maybe there's like a cameo situation. 199 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: Maybe Victor Andova calls ed Madison for some help again, 200 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: and I don't know what that looks like. But yeah, 201 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 3: never say never, because you never know. With this franchise, 202 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 3: like every single movie that happened, I thought it was 203 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,559 Speaker 3: the last one. So even after the first one, like 204 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: I had no idea what we were doing more. I 205 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 3: thought it was just like one movie. So you never know. 206 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: That's so cool. That's really really cool as an actor, 207 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: as an artist, now that you had a taste of 208 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 1: executive producing and having say in your role and in story, 209 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: is it weird to do a project going forward where 210 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: you don't have that, Like, is that something really important 211 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: to you now? 212 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 2: I think it definitely is. I think it depends. 213 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: You know, it is really cool to have creative say 214 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 3: and to be also behind the scenes as well, and 215 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 3: it's something that if there is another movie I really 216 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: want to like dive into because it was just so 217 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 3: cool being on the other side, but especially actually for 218 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 3: a project that I loved and it's been a part 219 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: of my childhood and my life forever, and I just 220 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 3: thought that was really really cool and I think it 221 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 3: is definitely something important moving on. But especially as a 222 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: d COOM fan, I think was the most important part 223 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: because me and Mala grew up watching all the movies 224 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 3: like they were our everything, and we got to be like, Okay, 225 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 3: if I was, you know, eight year old me watching 226 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 3: high school musical, like what would I have wanted to see? 227 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 2: You're like, what did I love about those movies? 228 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 3: And we got to actually put that in there, So 229 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: it definitely is was an incredible privilege and it's going 230 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: to be hard moving forward. 231 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: To not have that on some projects. 232 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, I feel like you're a 233 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: really good leader in those environments because you just asked 234 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: a question. I feel like so many people and executives 235 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,200 Speaker 1: and you know, higher ups don't ask, which is like 236 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: what would I have wanted to see? And in television 237 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 1: and film and news and entertainment, like in any of it, 238 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: it's like for some reason people forget that question and 239 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: you want to give them what they wanted, what you 240 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: wanted to see? 241 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally. 242 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, because especially as a young girl, I feel 243 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: like the romance is always the most incredible part to me. 244 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 3: And so especially in Zombies Wore, I was like, what 245 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: moments can we like milk or. 246 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: You know, make you have those like butterfly moments. 247 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 3: There's so many with Victor and Nova it's just so cute, 248 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: and same with Zedan Addison obviously as well. So those 249 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: moments are always my favorite. 250 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: Well, from listening to you rep which we're going to 251 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,560 Speaker 1: get into in a minute, I feel like you're definitely 252 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: someone very connected to your emotions and you feel deeply 253 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: and you feel intensely, which I can very much relate to. 254 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: So when you were filming this last movie. Did you 255 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: have a moment on set, like did something specific happen 256 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: or a scene or a day where you kind of 257 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: looked around and thought, oh, man, like this could really 258 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: be it that made you a little emotional. 259 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: Oh. 260 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 3: During the rehearsal process, I was crying so much, all 261 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 3: happy tears. I wasn't sad at all. I feel like 262 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: on Zombies three, I like mourned the movies. I said 263 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,599 Speaker 3: that before, but I feel like I was this was 264 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: a whole new, completely new thing for me of like 265 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: we've like wrapped up our story and now we're like 266 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: passing the torch to these new comers. And it was 267 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: just like such a surreal feeling because never in my 268 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: life have I felt like I had experience to share 269 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 3: or I had advice to give because I'm still so 270 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: young myself that but then these kids come in and 271 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 3: they're like fourteen to seventeen, and I'm like, wow, I'm 272 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 3: not that age anymore, Like I'm an. 273 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 2: Adult, so like what is happening? 274 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 3: And it just was a really great reminder of like 275 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: why I got in the industry in the first place, 276 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 3: like why I love creating, And because in the rehearsals 277 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: they were all just so excited and so eager to 278 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 3: be there, and they're like acting out the scenes before 279 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: the dances and they're like so in it and so nervous, 280 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: and and it was just wild because it was like 281 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 3: we I was watching Me and Milow all over again 282 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 3: and like as kids, and I've just never experienced that before. 283 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 3: And we were all so Chandler, Kylie, Milo and I. 284 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: We were all so emotional and it was just cool. 285 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 3: And even now just seeing them on tour, it's just 286 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 3: like just the most surreal thing. It's like, it's wild 287 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 3: to see them going through I mean, we never did 288 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 3: a tour, but like it's wild to see them go 289 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 3: through the same things that we went through. Yeah, it's 290 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: so surreal. So that's what I was most emotional about. 291 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 3: And yeah, I just was like, Wow, they're going to 292 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: do amazing and people are going to love them, and 293 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 3: this is so crazy. 294 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy how fast time goes? 295 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 3: I know, it's crazy because Zombies feels like so long 296 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 3: ago and it feels like a different lifetime. But at 297 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: the same time, it's just like I blanked and now 298 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 3: we're here. It's so surreal. 299 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: I know, I know, And you mentioned advice. Did you 300 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: give a great piece of advice to Malachai and frail 301 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: One you remember giving as you passed the baton, So 302 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: you say. 303 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: Hmmm, I'm not really sure. 304 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: There's not really anything specific because to be honest, like 305 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: they are absolute rock stars and so mature for their age, 306 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 3: so there really wasn't that they they didn't need much advice. 307 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: But I think it was really cool because whenever something 308 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 3: happened on set, if it was like a small thing 309 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: or a big thing, like negative or positive. I feel 310 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 3: like because Milea and I were also executive producers, like 311 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 3: they went to us first and then when then we 312 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 3: went to you know, the the higher ups at Disney, 313 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 3: So it was just really cool to be that like 314 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 3: conduit between the two. I think that was really special 315 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: because and why I would want to come back is 316 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 3: to be that like safe space for them, so they're 317 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 3: like talking to you know, their older brother and sister 318 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 3: and can vouch for them instead of talking to, you know, 319 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: like older adults that they don't know very well. 320 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: If that makes sense, Yeah, for sure. And did you 321 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: did that hold special meetings to you? Because maybe that's 322 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: something that you felt like you wanted in the business 323 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: coming up. 324 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. 325 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: I think especially with like especially with Frey, like her 326 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 3: and I are so close, because yeah, it's like watching 327 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 3: her go through everything, it's just really surreal because it's 328 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 3: like just trying to be like, okay, as like a 329 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 3: young girl in the industry. 330 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 2: She's only fifteen, it's like, and she's. 331 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: So talented and just incredible and amazing and just it's 332 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 3: going to go so far. 333 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm so excited for her. 334 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 3: It's just like, what would I have wanted when I 335 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: was that age, because I feel like I didn't really 336 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 3: have anybody to rely on that was older and has 337 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 3: been in the same position as me, and I feel 338 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: like I just was like I'm still trying to undo it, 339 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: but just being like a yes man all the time 340 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 3: and not being able to say no and whatever. And 341 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 3: she's like so good at that and she's learning. But 342 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: I think the people pleasing thing is just really hard 343 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 3: for anybody. 344 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 2: Not just in the industry. 345 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: I think a lot of people deal with that in 346 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: their own world. But I think especially as a child actor, 347 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: you're just taught to like be easy and go with 348 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 3: the flow, and but I just think if even if 349 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 3: you say no, as long as you're nice about it, 350 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: like nobody can get mad at you for it, but 351 00:15:58,840 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 3: it is really scary. 352 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. Oh my god, I feel like 353 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: I was just talking about this with a friend and 354 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: how there's so much power in saying no and like 355 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: setting your boundaries because for whatever reason, in any career, 356 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: we all do it. But I feel like, especially in entertainment, 357 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: we have a hard time sometimes disappointing somebody. 358 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred percent. 359 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: I love that you're passing that on. That is so cool. 360 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about your EP that I was 361 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: jamming out to in the gym. It gives me like 362 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: all the vibes are some retro vibes or some dance vibes. 363 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's deep, it's meaningful, it's personal. 364 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: What did you hope to achieve with the CP because 365 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: this is your big, full on debut. 366 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, like I like, the last time I 367 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 3: put out music, it was still it was kind of 368 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 3: under like the Disney Umbrella when I was like, I 369 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 3: think it was twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen. So it's been 370 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: a while and music is something I've always wanted to pursue, 371 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 3: and it's something that I know that I want to do, 372 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: but I think in the music industry, like I'm kind 373 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 3: of starting at zero because it's like immensely hard to 374 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 3: there's just so much music, and there's like on social media, 375 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 3: it's so like congested, and I was just like trying 376 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 3: to figure out like what I wanted to put out 377 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: and what like music, music that meant something to me. 378 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 3: And and I think this EP is kind of just 379 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: the start of me getting back into music, and it's 380 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 3: just all of my influences at one So it's kind 381 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 3: of like almost like understanding like my music influences and 382 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: like where I'm coming from. 383 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: Like I love hip hop and R and B. 384 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: It's like where it starts, and like that's like my 385 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,120 Speaker 3: basis for everything. That's like my comfort music. And then 386 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 3: I also love yacht rock, which is kind of like 387 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 3: what like the middle of the EP is kind of 388 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: like yacht rock like eighties vibes, which I absolutely love. 389 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 3: And then and then I also love like singer songwriter music, 390 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: which is like the title track Dying. 391 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 2: Art is very much that vibe. 392 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 3: And so I have always struggled being like I don't 393 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 3: know where I belong because I have. 394 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: Such an eclectic music tastes. 395 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 3: I just don't know like what lane I want to 396 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: go into and what's authentic to me, because I just 397 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 3: want it to be authentic. I don't want to do 398 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,439 Speaker 3: anything that I don't want to do. So yeah, this 399 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 3: is kind of just like putting an EP out there 400 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: and being like, hey, these are all of my influences 401 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: and this is kind of where I'm starting from. 402 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: So and it's so interesting to hear you say you're 403 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: starting kind of from the ground up, from zero, because 404 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: you would think, you know, you're such an established artist, 405 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 1: and but I guess the music world is different. 406 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 2: Yeah it is. 407 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 3: And I'm definitely not starting from zero because I have 408 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 3: such an incredible fan base from like zombies and and 409 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: so I'm definitely not starting from zero. But in moments, 410 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: in my most insecure moments, it feels like that because yeah, 411 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 3: like with acting and in front of the screen, I 412 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 3: feel like I have done a lot of work, which 413 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for, and music is just like it 414 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 3: takes a lot of time. 415 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 2: And I think the hardest thing for me. 416 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 3: Is social media because with acting, social media is definitely 417 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: very important, but you can kind of be like a 418 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 3: blank slate and just kind of like post pictures and 419 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 3: do like whatever. But music it's like you have to 420 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 3: post every single day and be promoting your song, and 421 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 3: like social media is such a huge part of it. 422 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 3: It's a huge part of everything, but especially with music, 423 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 3: and your name is like a brand. I think when 424 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:20,640 Speaker 3: I was like figuring out the rollout of the EP, 425 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 3: everyone kept being like, so, like who is Meg Donaldy? 426 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 2: Like what does Megdonnally want? 427 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm going to have an existential guy. 428 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: Guys, who is she? I don't like? You know? 429 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, so it was that was part was really difficult. 430 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm just trying to figure out like what 431 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 3: music means to me and what I want, And I 432 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 3: just really want it to be authentic as possible because 433 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 3: I think if you're authentic, then you know, nothing can 434 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 3: really go wrong. Even if people don't like the music, 435 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 3: at least you're like, well. 436 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: This is me, So yeah, it comes off totally authentic. 437 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: And don't you wish sometimes you can just like go 438 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: away from social media. We love it, but sometimes I'm like, 439 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: I wish I didn't have to do it all the time. 440 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 3: I know, I'm I like, that's like my biggest struggle, 441 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 3: like since social media started becoming part of work, is 442 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: just like how much do I post of myself? 443 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,360 Speaker 2: How much do I keep private? 444 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 3: People are just like perceiving me, Like they're looking at 445 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: my social media and being like, oh, this is her, 446 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 3: but it's not, Like it's really not me at all, 447 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: like it is but it's not, and just posting all 448 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 3: the time, and like thinking that posting is like cringy 449 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 3: and and how people are looking at it. I feel 450 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: like that again, it's the feeble pleasing thing. I just 451 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 3: cared too much about what people think. I need to 452 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 3: let go of that and just post whatever because who cares? 453 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 2: I care. 454 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 1: I know it's easier said than done. It's easier so 455 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: than done. I think most people who are going to 456 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: be listening to this are going to be like, oh 457 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: my god, I totally agree and can sympathize and empathize 458 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: with all of that. It's a lot, and I grew 459 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: up without any of it, and then it like suddenly exploded. 460 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm older than you, I'm thirty nine, so like to 461 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: like get adjusted to that world, you. 462 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 3: Know, Yeah, no, it's it's wild, and I think with music, 463 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 3: I'm trying to look at it or just social media. 464 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 3: I'm just trying to look at it as part of 465 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 3: like the job. It's like, Okay, this is the part 466 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 3: that's not as fun. But if you do it and 467 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 3: you stick with it, then you know you'll end up 468 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 3: building what you want and then eventually, if everything goes great, 469 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 3: then you won't have to do it and you don't 470 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 3: have to do the hard part anymore. But yeah, it's 471 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 3: definitely still work in progress and I have I definitely 472 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 3: do not have that figured out yet so well, from 473 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: what I am figuring out right now. 474 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: It is so relatable. It is so relatable. So you 475 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: talk about many things in the CP. What do you 476 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: think is the most personal thing that you opened up about. 477 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I think the most personal is definitely Dying Art. 478 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 3: Like the title track, I knew I wanted the EP 479 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 3: to be called Dying Art before I even had the song. 480 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,119 Speaker 3: Like I knew, I was like, I'm just going to 481 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: write a song called Dying Art, which was actually really 482 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: cool and challenging because going into the studio with like 483 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 3: this amazing team and being like, hey, like I want 484 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: to this is the title track about Dying Art, and 485 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 3: it's about my relationship with the industry, Like I already 486 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 3: had like a prompt of like what I wanted to do, 487 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 3: and I think with dying art, I think it's not 488 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 3: necessarily true. But in like moments of being like why 489 00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 3: do I want to be in the music industry and 490 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 3: kind of just looking at what's out there now, and 491 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 3: there's amazing talented people, but it's like music videos, people 492 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 3: still make them, but like labels don't really find the 493 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: value in music videos anymore, and it's all about short 494 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 3: form content. And I feel like live performance people still 495 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: use like bands and they use music and it's great, 496 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 3: but like just like the fact of you would record 497 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 3: music to perform it live, and I feel like not 498 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 3: a lot of artists do that anymore, which I understand 499 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 3: it makes sense because you can just put out music 500 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 3: and then tour it and it's great, but I feel 501 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 3: like there was you bands made me to perform, and 502 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 3: like that's not necessarily like the goal now, And so 503 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: I just was like, dang, is what I want to 504 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 3: do like a dying art? Am I really cut out 505 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 3: for this industry? Like is it too hard? 506 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 2: Am I? Am? I just going. 507 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 3: Into blind into this crazy industry? And then I was 508 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 3: like I think That's a great title for the EP 509 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 3: because that's how I'm feeling. And then I've always wanted 510 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 3: to put my thoughts into a song like this, and yeah, 511 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 3: it's basically just about being like, you know, I've done 512 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: this my entire life, Like I've been in the industry 513 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 3: since I was like six years old, and I was like, 514 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: am I just giving my life for a dying art? 515 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: Yeah? 516 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: This is what I want to do. 517 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,439 Speaker 3: So yeah, definitely, turning twenty five, this is like a 518 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: perfect time for a quarter life crisis. So that's kind 519 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 3: of what I'm what I'm going through, and I just 520 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 3: wanted to write about it because I think even if 521 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 3: you're not in the industry, I think it's very relatable 522 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 3: to anybody who is trying to figure out what they're 523 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 3: doing and what they want to do. 524 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 2: With their life. Is just like it, like you know, 525 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 2: what am I doing? 526 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: People don't always like to talk about that because it's 527 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,040 Speaker 1: uncomfortable and you know, it doesn't vulnerable. Yeah, it's very vulnerable, 528 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: and you kind of, especially on social want to put 529 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: on that like everything's great face. So I really liked 530 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: that you opened up and talked about that. Is there 531 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 1: a lyric in either the song Dying Art or your 532 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 1: entire EP that you were the most worried or afraid 533 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: to put out. 534 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 2: Hmm, I don't know. I definitely feel like the song 535 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: Dying Art. 536 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: I not that I was like nervous about it, but 537 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 3: it was like weird and just a little bit like 538 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 3: vulnerable just about the industry. I thought that was like 539 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 3: just a little bit scary, just like talking openly about 540 00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 3: it was kind of like like I don't know if 541 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: I want people to know that I'm like struggling with 542 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 3: this thing. But also like my favorite songs are when 543 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: people like talk about things like. 544 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 2: This, just about life or any like existential things, So 545 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: that was really cool. And then also I guess, like. 546 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: I mean, talking private is like a little like risque, 547 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 3: so I kind of was like, ooh, like I don't 548 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: know if I should put this up. But that's also 549 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 3: a side of me that I was like, I mean, 550 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 3: it's not too crazy, but it's a side of me 551 00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,359 Speaker 3: that is definitely there. So I was like, might as well, 552 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: you know, like dive into that and just be more 553 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 3: adult and don't have to like censor myself as much 554 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 3: as I usually do, just because I have like a 555 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: young audience obviously, But yeah, I guess those are like 556 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 3: two of the at least I'm thinking about right now. 557 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, those are solid choices. And I also like 558 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: Strangers because I think that's yeah, very relatable, you know, 559 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: seeing someone either change in the course of a relationship 560 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: or after and you're like, who is this person? You know? 561 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that. 562 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 3: But Strangers always makes me very emotional because, like I mean, 563 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 3: the song itself is about a relationship, but it when 564 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 3: I listen to it, like I kind of just think 565 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 3: about and when I was writing it as well, it's 566 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: like just thinking about everyone, like friends, family, just people 567 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 3: that you were so close and you talk to every 568 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 3: day and then now you just don't talk anymore. And 569 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 3: I think it's a something that every human goes through, 570 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: no matter what, no matter what context it's in, And 571 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 3: that song is so special to me. And it also 572 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: just feels really nostalgic, like the eighties. 573 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 2: Synth and everything. 574 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 3: It just has that like you're like driving and the 575 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 3: windows down, you're like, or you're on an airplane and 576 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 3: you're like looking out the window, like. 577 00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: You know that vibe. 578 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just cue the slow motion like look out 579 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: the window. Yeah, exactly, would you say you're getting more 580 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: comfortable not playing it safe anymore? 581 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 2: I think so. Yeah. I feel like. 582 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: As a child actor or just any child in this industry, 583 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 3: I feel like it's really easy to want to like 584 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,240 Speaker 3: cover everything up and be okay and put on a 585 00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 3: smile all the time, and like I was saying before, 586 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 3: just like acts like everything's okay and every like. 587 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 2: You know, yes, yes, yes. 588 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 3: And I think now, especially the past couple of years 589 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: that I've just been figuring out like who I am 590 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: and you know, trying to grow as a person, I 591 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 3: feel like, just especially in conversations like this, like I 592 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: just want to be as honest as possible just with 593 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 3: my journey and what I'm going through, and then especially 594 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: in my music because I think, you know, if you're 595 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,879 Speaker 3: talking honestly and vulnerably, there's nothing wrong with that, and 596 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 3: I think it will help other people as well be 597 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 3: more honest and vulnerable with themselves. 598 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 2: But also like it helps. 599 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 3: Me even just talking about all this out loud, because 600 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,119 Speaker 3: I I'm just trying to figure it out too, like 601 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 3: I you know, so, so i think I'm definitely done 602 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: playing it safe and I'm trying to figure out what 603 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 3: that means for me, but I definitely am way more 604 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 3: open and honest than I've ever been in my life. 605 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's liberating, but also it's scary as hell, right, Sury. 606 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 3: It's really scary because like you don't know, especially on 607 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: social media, it's like you say. 608 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: One thing and then a couple months later. 609 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 3: You know that that's not maybe how you feel anymore. 610 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 3: But then it's just out there. But then also like 611 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 3: everything's recorded and everything is out there now, so it's 612 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: like you know, you can grow and change no matter what, 613 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 3: and it's like. 614 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: At the end of the day, it's like, eh, whatever. 615 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think people are more understanding of 616 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: people evolving and growing in all of that as well, 617 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: Like it's so funny. A quick aside is this, this 618 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: podcast is predominantly an interviewing show, and I bring on 619 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: favorite artists and we talk about projects and what they're doing. 620 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: But then iHeart was like, we want a second episode 621 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 1: from you a week, and we want it to be 622 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 1: you giving advice on a topic you've you know, based 623 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,880 Speaker 1: on what you've gone through. So there's a second episode 624 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: that drops every Friday called Tommy Talks. And I was 625 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: so petrified to do this because in my job, I'm 626 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: used to facilitating conversation and yeah, I chime in and 627 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: share some things, but it's not ten minutes of me 628 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: just talking. So in the spirit of what you just said, 629 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: it's like, you know what, I'm also feeling like I'm 630 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: at a point in my life where it's okay and 631 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: what I put out there is my truth. 632 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool. Like what kind of topics you 633 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: talk about? 634 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: Have you so? Like a few examples. One was when 635 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,640 Speaker 1: it's time to let go of a friendship. Wow, And 636 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: they're all based off experiences. Another is do you tell 637 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: your friend that their partner kind of sucks? 638 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 2: That's a really hard one. 639 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of things like that. So anyway, 640 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: it's it's super fun, but I agree it's it's liberating 641 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: but also scary. You have so much going on, and 642 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: I from an outsider, I feel like you should feel 643 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: so proud of everything you're doing and all the success 644 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: you've had. Do you feel that or do you have 645 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: to kind of remind yourself to like stop be present 646 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: and say like, oh my god, I am doing it, 647 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 1: like I'm accomplishing things that are not easy. 648 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it. It kind of goes in waves. 649 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 3: I definitely am a very big like I have like 650 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 3: a lot of imposter syndrome of like a lot of 651 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 3: times it's all a lot of my insecurity because I 652 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: am I'm always like am I good enough? 653 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 2: Am I do I belong here? 654 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 3: And I think with my amazing people in my life, 655 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 3: like when I go through ruts like that, which I 656 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: do often, I feel like there's people in my life 657 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: to be like, hey, like look at where you're at, 658 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 3: and like think about your younger self and like think 659 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 3: about what your younger self wanted and look at everything 660 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 3: that you've accomplished. 661 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: And then I feel. 662 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 3: Stupid because I'm like, wow, like it is so surreal 663 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: and I don't think it will ever fully like process 664 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 3: in my mind, like how much I have done and 665 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 3: how much life I have lived in just twenty five years. 666 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 3: But it's really wild and I'm so grateful and and 667 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 3: it's just been incredible. But but yeah, I like I 668 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 3: can't like lie and say that. A lot of times 669 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 3: I definitely am like, well, it was luck or it 670 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 3: was you try to like you get into these negative cycles, 671 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 3: and I think I tend to think negatively just about 672 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 3: myself specifically and I like think positively for everybody else 673 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: Givvy like Givvy. 674 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: I think positively. 675 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 3: Forgivvy, but I tend to think negatively for myself and 676 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 3: I'm trying to get out of that cycle. 677 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: But I am very grateful for everything. It's really surreal. 678 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's not easy to kind of it's easy 679 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: to tell a friend or someone you love, like don't 680 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 1: talk to yourself like that or don't do it, but 681 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: then like when you have to navigate that on your 682 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: own about you, that's the hardest. 683 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 3: Thing I know, because if anybody else I always love that, 684 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 3: like that saying is like if somebody else was talking 685 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 3: to you the way you talked about yourself, you would 686 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 3: get rid of that, get rid of that friend immediately. 687 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 3: And it's just really funny that we just allow ourselves 688 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: to talk to ourselves like that because it's like so 689 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 3: not okay and it shouldn't be that way. 690 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's it's wild. 691 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I definitely have gotten better at it for sure, 692 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 3: but it's still like a work in progress. 693 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: Hey, works in progress are good. That means we're trying 694 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: to evolve and better ourselves. So I am all for 695 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: a work in progress. I love that. Oh my god, 696 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: I could talk to you for like four more hours, 697 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: but we have to, Like literally, this is like the easiest, 698 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: most fun conversation, but in the spirit of giving you 699 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: your day back. The name of this show is called 700 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before, And it was born because 701 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,479 Speaker 1: I cover a lot of red carpet movie premieres and 702 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: junkets which you're no stranger to and you get like 703 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: you know too, and it's on a carpet or four 704 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 1: to five minutes in a junkit and it's it's just 705 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: not enough time to have a real conversation for everyone 706 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: to relax, to talk about things that actually matter, because 707 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: everybody you know needs the same headlines and the bites. 708 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: So I had this idea to create a show where 709 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: I brought on people and let them say something they've 710 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: never said before, whatever that means to them, something they 711 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: want to put out in the world. And it's totally 712 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: totally up to your interpretation on what you want to 713 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:30,440 Speaker 1: share with that question. But what is something that you've 714 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: never said before, something. 715 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: I've never said before. I don't know, thinking of like 716 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,600 Speaker 3: something that's so not deep at all. I've never cooked, 717 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 3: like meat, before. 718 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 1: Are you a viga vegetarian? 719 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 2: No, I don't think I've ever said that lad before. 720 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 3: I don't know why my brain went there, but yeah, 721 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 3: Like I bought a bunch of broad chicken last night 722 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 3: and I was like, I'm going to cook it, and 723 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 3: I'm actually terrified because I realized that I've actually never 724 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: have cooked me before. I just I don't know why 725 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 3: I'm not a big cook, but I'm starting to get 726 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 3: into it. I've got eggs down, I've got different like 727 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 3: open faced toasts down, and now I'm working my way through. 728 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 2: But yeah, I've never cooked meat. 729 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 3: I'm just scared about chicken specifically because if it's like 730 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 3: pink in the middle and then I'm out of commission 731 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 3: for three days, I'm going to be really upset at myself. 732 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 3: So but apparently it's really easy to like overcook, so 733 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 3: I don't know like what the sweet spot is in there. 734 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,279 Speaker 3: So I'm going to figure it out this week and 735 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 3: I'll let you know. I'll give you an update on 736 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: how it goes. But yeah, I've never I don't think 737 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 3: I've ever cooked meat before. 738 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: I I love that answer so unexpected, And also I 739 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: get really pricked up by raw meat. Too, so like 740 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: totally get it. I am so with you. Like there's 741 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: certain raw meats I just won't touch. I'm like to 742 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,319 Speaker 1: my husband, please handle this. I don't want to touch it. 743 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 3: I know every single time there's chicken like on a plate, 744 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 3: I'll like cut it open and then I'll go to 745 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 3: whoever's next to me and I'm like, is this bik 746 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,359 Speaker 3: because I just am really paranoid about it. But yeah, 747 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna try it. Hopefully I don't give myself food poisoning. 748 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: Oh my god, please don't do that. But I look 749 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: forward to seeing your amazing creations on Instagram. 750 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 2: Thank you. Yeah, yeah, I'll definitely voice it be like 751 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 2: cooked me. 752 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing. I've never cooked this thing before. 753 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: I like that a different spin on the show. And 754 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: for everybody who's afraid to cook something, this is your 755 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,240 Speaker 1: science step outside of your comfort zone. 756 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: There's something you haven't cooked before, Let's do it. 757 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Meg Donnelly, what a pleasure. I am 758 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: so excited for everything going on in your life. Congratulations 759 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: again on the number one movie Zombies four and your 760 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: EP Dying Art. Everybody go stream it wherever you stream 761 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: your music. I just I know there's so much more 762 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: in store for you, and you've already accomplished so much. 763 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,359 Speaker 1: It's like, what else do you need to check off? 764 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: But you're gonna be You're gonna be around a very 765 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: long time. 766 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 2: Thank you. I really appreciate that. 767 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,839 Speaker 1: Of course, Well come back anytime if you're in New York, 768 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,320 Speaker 1: let me know I would love that. Yes, here, welcome anytime, 769 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: and until we meet again, my friend, Thank. 770 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,959 Speaker 2: You so much, Thank you so much. 771 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 1: I've Never Said This Before is hosted by me Tommy Dedario. 772 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:15,400 Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio 773 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,839 Speaker 1: and by me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney. I've 774 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: Never Said This Before is part of the Elvis Duran 775 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: podcast Network on iHeart Podcasts. For more, rate review and 776 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: subscribe to our show and if you liked this episode, 777 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: tell your friends. Until next time, I'm Tommy de Dario