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Speaker 2: One is good?

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Speaker 3: How you living, how you're feeling?

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Speaker 4: It is another episode of the Big Podcast with Shack,

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Speaker 4: where we always do it big and we are back

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Speaker 4: with a combination of unbelievable athlete and a dude that's

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Speaker 4: gonna make you laugh your face off to Shaq's left

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Speaker 4: from Atlanta. An undeniable talent. He can command a TV show,

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Speaker 4: a sold out arena, or your social media feed.

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Speaker 3: He will make you laugh until you cry. He will

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Speaker 3: roast you until you want to hide. Give it up

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Speaker 3: for the one, the only DC young Fly.

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Speaker 4: And two shacks Right, This is big for Shaquille O'Neil from.

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Speaker 3: Roosevelt, New York.

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Speaker 4: He is a three time champion, a four time MVP,

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Speaker 4: one of the most important athletes of any era. His

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Speaker 4: word posterized. He was once compared to Thomas Edison because

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Speaker 4: he was inventing something new every night. The doctor Julius Eving.

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Speaker 5: How you guys doing great. Bro, I want to I

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Speaker 5: want to thank you for coming to the tchuhuclous doctor

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Speaker 5: never told you this. I have a confession. Before I

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Speaker 5: found out who you were, I didn't know who you were.

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Speaker 5: Let me explain. You know, I'm a football guy, right,

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Speaker 5: so before you became my guy, ed two tall Jones

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Speaker 5: was my guy. Okay, So then I watched this movie

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Speaker 5: and you know the movie Rightisha Pittsburgh, and then you

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Speaker 5: became my guy Always won.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't that wasn't artificial. That was real acting. It

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Speaker 5: Because because like, have you ever seen that movie for Safe? Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you need to check it out. So it's a basketball movie.

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Speaker 5: It's classic. So when I saw that and you know

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Speaker 5: went baseline and when he dunked it and the crowd

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Speaker 5: to Lincoln, like I was always getting in trouble. So

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Speaker 5: I seen him go baseline throw it down, the crowd

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Speaker 5: to dress my father as sir, because he was like,

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Speaker 5: you know, don't talk to me until you get your

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Speaker 5: life together. I was like, Sir, I finally figured out

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Speaker 5: what I want to do with my life. And he

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Speaker 5: was like what He's like, I want to be like

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Speaker 5: this man here, like you want to be like the

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Speaker 5: doctor Jay. And my father said this to me. He said,

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Speaker 5: I'll make you the best big man ever. And then

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Speaker 5: he started throwing names I never heard. He said, I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna make you like Rema Abdul Jabbar, I'm gonna make

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Speaker 5: you like Wilt Chamblain. I'm gonna make you like Bill Russell.

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Speaker 5: But I wouldn't even worry about his names. I was

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Speaker 5: to ask you this question. You know this era we

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Speaker 5: upset that your name is not mentioned? Because for all

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Speaker 5: the people that was watching, you invented all of it.

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Speaker 5: You see this big house, that's you. You see all

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Speaker 5: these goddamn cars I'm traveling, that's you. You see all

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Speaker 5: I get upset when they don't mention your name. Do

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Speaker 5: This younger generation, what happens is.

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Speaker 2: My nephew who you know, he he sometimes give me

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Speaker 2: what they left you out? And I'm just like, get

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Speaker 2: And everywhere I went, they they said, the Globe trotters

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but that upsets me because of obsessiment, because you

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Speaker 5: why they talking about all these big men. I have

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Speaker 5: to bring up Yep coast to coast with style, like

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Speaker 5: I wasn't the first big big xil of the drug,

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Speaker 5: you know. I'm always keep your name alive because if

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Speaker 5: it wasn't for you, it wouldn't have been no Magic.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't for you you and Magic, it wouldn't have

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Speaker 5: been no Mic. If it wasn't for you, Magic and

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Speaker 5: Mike wouldn't have been no Me, no Copano Brown. So

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Speaker 5: I just want to let you know, ever since you

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Speaker 2: Know that every day. But when we do, I mean,

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Speaker 5: I know, I talk about the big Diesel. So that

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Speaker 5: I was like, it only got two months. I'm not

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Speaker 5: I was like this. I was like what And when

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Speaker 5: you know, night before I don't drink, but I had

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Speaker 2: I was trying to recruit him for converts and they

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Speaker 2: to him about converse, right, and uh, you know that

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Speaker 6: You doctor J.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: I think the younger generation don't see this enough. Like

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Speaker 6: even if you look at it, I don't play ball,

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Speaker 7: Was to be the newbie, it'll be it'll be three

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like.

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Speaker 2: I know of you.

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Speaker 7: That's why the first thing I said, you were I

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Speaker 7: think that's probably one of the greatest of my generation

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Speaker 7: is AI. So it's so many before AI is that

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Speaker 7: you have to go even attention and to acknowledge why

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Speaker 7: a I is even a Just like you said, anything Sausten,

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Speaker 6: One person, one pioneer, and who is that? As you anything.

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Speaker 2: I can't. I can't just let y'all totally get away

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Speaker 2: with that because there was guys, I don't want to

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Speaker 2: hear that. Doc woke me up, put it on the pedal.

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Speaker 2: They woke me up. You know when I saw Elgin

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Speaker 2: Baylor play. You gotta give elg props. When I saw

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Speaker 2: to see if I could do that, go from this

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Speaker 2: I've never seen down hand, never.

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Speaker 5: Seen elgind, I never seen Pee Wee Kirch and all

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Speaker 2: Connie Hawken. So back men, when it was so I

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Speaker 2: and do this what you doing And I hadn't seen

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Speaker 5: I understand what you saw that.

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Speaker 5: I understand you say, there's a lot of checks on that,

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Speaker 5: but you had that that that extra to bring it out.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of selling flos that could do what

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Speaker 5: I do, but I was the first to bring it out.

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Speaker 7: From a generation when basketball was fundamental, Like it was like,

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Speaker 7: all right, it was only one way to do this layup.

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Speaker 6: Now that's how everybody's seen it.

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Speaker 7: Were you a little bit apprehensive when it comes from

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Speaker 7: doing something that maybe you want to do that probably

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Speaker 7: went against the league, But you really weren't doing nothing wrong.

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Speaker 6: You just add a little flavor to it.

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Speaker 2: And the recognition of it, you know, came from like

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Speaker 2: when I was a freshman in high school, you know,

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Speaker 2: the baseline and I went under the basket and did

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Speaker 2: this and they made a big deal. But I'll score

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Speaker 2: two po in the game, right. And the newspaper next

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Speaker 2: day they spelled my name I r V I n G.

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Speaker 2: They didn't even spell my name right. So I was

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Speaker 2: and my coach he said to me, divarsity coach, he said, man,

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Speaker 4: I want to say something to DC as he's telling

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Speaker 3: As Black Moses.

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Speaker 4: Like I would love to see DC Young flying his

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Speaker 3: That era of basketball. I just think they would do

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Speaker 5: Production, Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Production, Come on, no thing but chicken Wing ain't to

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Speaker 7: But see I think everybody kind of like added to

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Speaker 6: But it's like my IQ of basketball stops.

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Speaker 7: There, and I think a lot of the younger generation

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Speaker 6: It's the reason why you see a Lebron James.

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Speaker 7: You see all these greats Now, it's like who inspired them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the powers that be? That was probably it was

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot of people generationally speaking who think

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Speaker 5: I know I called you again. I want to express

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Speaker 5: my condolences. We've all had tragic loss. I was there

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Speaker 8: Brother, I be feeling feeling feeling blessed and micadoless to

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying it's not.

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Speaker 7: Hard to to give off good energy, especially like you said,

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Speaker 7: I've seen you, but I haven't physically seen you. I've

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Speaker 7: seen clips, I've seen how you've inspired others. So just

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Speaker 2: Hopefully I don't let you down.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. But it's just like it's

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Speaker 6: They can because you don't.

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Speaker 2: They get to flip you the bird and say, you know,

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Speaker 6: It's more so. But it's more so I admire what

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Speaker 7: I understand it because, like you said, when you get

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Speaker 7: and I get off the stage, I'm John Whitfield. I'm

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Speaker 6: I don't do that. I don't do what one hold on?

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Speaker 6: My mother?

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Speaker 2: Hell, my name is Winfield, man.

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Speaker 5: I was not the one not expecting that time. Your

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Speaker 7: Killed O'Neil, like your name rhyme. I ain't never met

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Speaker 5: The first time I met him and said a joke

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Speaker 5: Keep it going because I because I wasn't familiar with

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Speaker 2: He was sitting in the front road Miami was roasting roast.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I hit him in the deal. I was like,

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Speaker 5: since then, brother, you've been on your way.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 5: So you won't make no right here.

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Speaker 6: Know I ain't gonna not.

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Speaker 5: Tea John Whitfield.

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Speaker 6: Damn the wonder you play? See, I thought I was

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Speaker 7: I see people like y'all, I'm like, nah, I.

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Speaker 6: Ain't want no way in hell I be out there,

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Speaker 2: There jacking it up.

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Speaker 5: Why so you so you're born and raised here in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: West Side born and raised Atlanta, Georgia.

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Speaker 7: You know, I always been had had a certain personality.

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Speaker 7: But shout out to my boy Fat and Paid money

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Speaker 2: Now now it was. It was hot.

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Speaker 7: And then everything started popping up that looked like viruses

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00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 7: to me. And it was words going across the screen

437
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 7: and music playing.

438
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,320
Speaker 6: I ain't in here. I'm like, I don't even know

439
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 6: who I'm looking at.

440
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 5: Like Glitter had Glitter, Yeah, yeah, glitter.

441
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 6: Ye like, I can't even hit him, but no, I

442
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:32,840
Speaker 6: just I just you know what I'm saying.

443
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 7: We started doing vining and then I went to Instagram

444
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 7: and then wants Instagram pop. That's when a while and

445
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 7: that pop, and then you know, everything started started transitioning.

446
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 7: And I was just asking God to guy my footsteps.

447
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,879
Speaker 7: And then you know, if things start going good, it's like,

448
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,359
Speaker 7: all right, why I do something else that's different. So

449
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 7: I'm never scared to do nothing after normal. It's never

450
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 7: was out the norm because I come from renaissance.

451
00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:57,560
Speaker 6: I come from theater.

452
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,679
Speaker 7: It was just this part of theatre where it was

453
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 7: like stand up comedian. I'm like, no, I know how

454
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,879
Speaker 7: to be funny in the environment, or you put me

455
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 7: in a scenario with somebody. But it was like, no,

456
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 7: be funny by yourself, grasp the crowd, go tell a joke,

457
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 7: and I'm like, I ain't never did that. Let me

458
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 7: go find out what that is. Let me go study that.

459
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,320
Speaker 7: Who was here? That's why I say who was here

460
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 7: before me? Because I see comedians that probably wasn't my favorite.

461
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,360
Speaker 7: When I was on the other side as a consumer

462
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 7: of saying this was somebody I would go see who's

463
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 7: funny to me?

464
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 6: But now we're in the same craft. I gotta know

465
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 6: what you did here, the reason why you are great.

466
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 7: So now as I get older, I understand the importance

467
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,240
Speaker 7: of you.

468
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 6: So now I can what you say. I can relate

469
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 6: to your comedy.

470
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 7: Now now I find your comedy funny because we're in

471
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 7: the same.

472
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 6: Path, and I can relate to why you are great

473
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:51,920
Speaker 6: because I see myself going down in the same path.

474
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 5: Who's the king of comedy?

475
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 6: King?

476
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 7: I ain't no, Well, I would say, ain't no king,

477
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 7: because a lot of people are great, Like it's a

478
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 7: lot of basketball.

479
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 5: Player top five, then you're starting five.

480
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 6: My top five.

481
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 7: At the point guard, burning Burning macfs burn him at

482
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 7: the head coach. We don't really need no team cause

483
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:16,680
Speaker 7: he can go out there and suit up, play all positions.

484
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 6: But you know he gotta have a team. So I'm

485
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 6: gonna say burn him back the head coach.

486
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 1: Uh.

487
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 6: Matter of fact, they're gonna be the head coach. Richard

488
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 6: probably gonna be the head coach.

489
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 7: Rich all pride head coach, Burning Mack gonna play point guard.

490
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 7: That's why I won't take up taking up of the floor.

491
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 7: He gonna bring the ball down all right, who's gonna

492
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 7: be my two guard?

493
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 6: Uh? Come on, I'm gonna go with Mike. Yeah, Mike

494
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 6: gonna be my two.

495
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 5: Guarda he going? He's funny guard too.

496
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 6: He's funny in person.

497
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 5: Yes, here a big guard too.

498
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 7: Like it's a difference, like every time I'm like, I

499
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 7: want to be great, Like how oh g is great

500
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 7: and still correlate with the younger generation and with his generation.

501
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 7: But it's like it's effortlesss you know what I'm saying,

502
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 7: it's effortless.

503
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 6: Let me see after him, it would be Robbing Hairs.

504
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 6: That's the three. That's somebody like a small Ford.

505
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 7: He could play a power forward if I put him down,

506
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 7: and he could play center and he could bring the

507
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 7: ball up.

508
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 6: But he like a Lebron.

509
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 7: I only want him as small four only because ain't

510
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 7: nobody guarding Lebron as small for it. He just could

511
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 7: play all positions. But he's the best small forward.

512
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:30,120
Speaker 2: Of all time.

513
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 7: Okay, hmmm, Robbing Hairs and my small Ford, who's gonna

514
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 7: go to my power forward?

515
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 6: My power Okay?

516
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,359
Speaker 5: No, no, no, the fifth man?

517
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 6: How you gonna get the fourth?

518
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 2: Respect at the four?

519
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,639
Speaker 6: Because he like he like a dinner rob I might.

520
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 6: I don't need you to score. I just want rebound.

521
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 7: To give me number rebound. I want number a rebound.

522
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 7: And he decied that come out of give you number.

523
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 6: Hey, maker, that's all I need, only need you just

524
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 6: say nothing in the middle. He's so wrong, sit there

525
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 6: and saying nothing. That was funny. That's all I need

526
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 6: in my centnermon would go it.

527
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,439
Speaker 2: Bill cos There you go, Wow, there you go.

528
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 6: You know why I.

529
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,720
Speaker 2: Wasn't expecting that? Why because he on my list?

530
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 6: You know why inspired Richard Prow.

531
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, it was Bill Cosby who inspired Richard Prow And

532
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 7: once you see oh, like you say, you see who

533
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 7: he got it from? And you see who and you're like, okay,

534
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,880
Speaker 7: I remember with you Richard, Bill.

535
00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 6: You like Bill Richard got it from, so you started it. Okay,

536
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 6: let me dig a little deeper.

537
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 2: You know what his line was. But because I've seen

538
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: both of them, and I had a great relationship with

539
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: Bill Coyle me for many years. But uh, and I

540
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: went to see Richard and he said, man, Bill Cosby,

541
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 2: you need to have a coke and a smile and

542
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: ship up. I'm thinking, why did he say that? Obviously

543
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 2: he was just getting the joke and everybody's attention, whatever,

544
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 2: but it stuck with me a long time.

545
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 5: Bill.

546
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 6: I definitely, definitely, I definitely watched Bill. But see, I'll

547
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 6: come from theater.

548
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 7: So I only like to watch people who can gravitate

549
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 7: to the audience quick asap.

550
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:38,400
Speaker 6: And bring them to them.

551
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 7: So once I seen what Bill did, I was like, Oh,

552
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 7: it's past like being a stand up.

553
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 6: He's oh yeah, no, wow, he was.

554
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: He's a storyteller.

555
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 3: I've heard. I've heard a lot of these lists.

556
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 4: And I know that DC is a fan of this guy,

557
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 4: and I know that Shack's a fan of this guy.

558
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 4: And you said, Bill, and I don't normally say he's

559
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 4: not getting enough love.

560
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 3: Jim Carrey needs to be on one of these lists.

561
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 6: I didn't. He didn't get to my bitch. Oh okay,

562
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 6: my bitch, lord, I'm gonna man my bitch load.

563
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,399
Speaker 7: You're talking about Jim Carrey, Ton of Robber, Carlo Miller,

564
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 7: Chico Bean.

565
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: Uh.

566
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 6: We got some more. I got girls on my team too,

567
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 6: some more. She bad.

568
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 2: Adam isn't impossible task, It's impossible.

569
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 5: Adam to really. I love how you stuck up for

570
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 5: the white guys. I appreciate her brother.

571
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 3: I had to.

572
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: It's just awesome.

573
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 8: Probably my favorite white guy.

574
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 6: That made you. Damn that was a side relief or

575
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 6: what you feel like it was hurt Like there's.

576
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 7: Only room for one, It's only one spot.

577
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: I'm noticing the trend right now at Atlanta Hawks games.

578
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: I saw you getting Donovan Mitchell's jersey. I saw Boosey

579
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: getting Lucas seventy three point jersey.

580
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 6: Crazy one.

581
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 4: I'm seeing Atlanta Hawks game become like the most fun

582
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 4: game in the NBA. But I'm also seeing all of

583
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 4: you guys courtside trying to get jerseys at the end

584
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: of this game.

585
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 3: Is this like a competition that's brewing?

586
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 6: Ain't no. Stop stop telling the people what we're doing. Bro,

587
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 6: Now you're gonna make it a trend, like br stop

588
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 6: telling them.

589
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 7: That's exactly what we're doing. I just said that that

590
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 7: I'm on my tenth jersey. I'm trying to collect what I'm.

591
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 6: Down there out here. Take it off four quarter, give

592
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 6: me that two three.

593
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 7: I'm walking out there two three on them a night

594
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,400
Speaker 7: because you know what it is.

595
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 6: You know what it is.

596
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 7: It's just bringing we want to bring the excitement back

597
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 7: to the game, bro, Like we we're.

598
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 6: Fans of the NBA players and the NBA players.

599
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: It's fans you can participate.

600
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 7: I want to participants competition. I want them to every

601
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 7: time you shoot a three, every time.

602
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 6: You don't, I want you to turn around. And I'm

603
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 6: sitting there like, yes, do that again if you did

604
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,000
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.

605
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 7: And when you come to my show and when you

606
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 7: see us acting crazy and you.

607
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 6: Laughing, that's support. That's saying Okay, you like that joke.

608
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 6: Oh my boy like that. Oh I got a little

609
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 6: for you. You know what I'm saying.

610
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 7: So we just want to reciprocate that love like we

611
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 7: love it. Like I know, I say, I wish I

612
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 7: would seen y'all play.

613
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 5: So were you there when look at hit seventy three?

614
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 6: Man? I was watching it on my throne.

615
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 5: And were you in the building where Joe when Joel

616
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 5: hit seventy No?

617
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: No, I saw I saw the game on TV.

618
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 5: Al Right, So what do you think about all this

619
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 5: all this high score? And you know, and you know,

620
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 5: I just got asked for you answer And the second

621
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,480
Speaker 5: part of question, do you think they would have did

622
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 5: that in your era? In my era? Same guys?

623
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was doable that the Elgin Baylor

624
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 2: who I mentioned he scored eighty one.

625
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 5: You know, obviously Will scored one hundred.

626
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 2: My high game was sixty three.

627
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 6: You're saying that like that a twin point game. Yeah,

628
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,719
Speaker 6: my high was sixty three. That same thing.

629
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: It's coming up off fifty years. You know, I was

630
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy four.

631
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 6: It was a different error.

632
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 2: So so I think I got asked why, and I

633
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,520
Speaker 2: got asked why from a basketball person. She happened to

634
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: be a female, and she happen to be coming into

635
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: town with the Phoenix Suns because she does the games.

636
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: Annie Meus Drysdale, who's a good friend of mine, and

637
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 2: she asked me, and I said, well, two things I

638
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: could think of. One is basketball right now, definitely, the

639
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 2: players are running the show. They're running the show. And

640
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: so if a guy gets it going, coach go to

641
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 2: take him out. He could say he could flip the bird,

642
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 2: whatever is it not, I ain't coming out, you know,

643
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: and get away with it. And then the other thing

644
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: is it probably won't happen if you have a coach

645
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: who was a superstar in the league, right you know,

646
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 2: he's gonna he's gonna monitor that situation a little bit

647
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: different because I had that personal experience, you know with

648
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 2: my coach, who was who was a superstar, who's the

649
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: All Pro, Who's a Hall of Famer and whatever. And

650
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 2: sometime I had thirty five after three quarters, I wouldn't

651
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 2: even play in the fourth quarter and whatever. He had

652
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: the record in the building, and I was like, all right,

653
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 2: it is what it is. And then we had a

654
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 2: conversation about it. I want you to be rested for

655
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 2: the playoffs.

656
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for the playoffs. I'm sure you have.

657
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: Yes, I have when you were rolling. Yeah, and whatever. Man,

658
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: you got to get some rest for the playoffs. Playoffs,

659
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: you can get knocked out in the first round. You

660
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: could be well rested up for the off season.

661
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: Is it true? Charles Barkley told you that. You know,

662
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 5: Charles is a big fivver. He told us that. He

663
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 5: told you when he got there. He said, I went

664
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 5: up to doctor Jim and said, this is my team.

665
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 5: Is that true or not? He never said that. Okay,

666
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 5: what are you talking about? I said, Okay, he called

667
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 5: me missing.

668
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: Plus you know, I always welcome rookies in open arms,

669
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 2: want to you know, feel comfortable and whatever. But you know,

670
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 2: Charles didn't come in the takeover mode because Moses was there,

671
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: I was there, Bobby Jones was there, Maurice Cheeks, Andrew Tony,

672
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 2: and we got guys who are Hall of Famers just

673
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 2: like him, who were there before him or whatever. So

674
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: I think it took him a minute, you know, in

675
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: his first three years before they sent him to Phoenix,

676
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 2: you know that third years when he when he arrived

677
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 2: as Sir Charles.

678
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 5: So I said on the podcast last week that I

679
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 5: hated Kobe one time and like the FBI came down,

680
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,880
Speaker 5: did you hate Barkley?

681
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 2: Did I them?

682
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 5: Yeah? Did you haze them? It's a rookie.

683
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: Camera or hazing?

684
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 5: Like no, no, no, and like you know, you know,

685
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 5: go get to go, get the water and donuts and all.

686
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: So I think we a little beyond that.

687
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 2: And him and Frankie Edwards came in together, so they

688
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: were the two rookies, and you know, we didn't give

689
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: him too hard a time because we were really a

690
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: veteran team whatever. You know, we didn't even know Charles

691
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 2: was going to be a starter because he had Mark

692
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 2: Ivarni plan ahead of him. And then he showed his

693
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 2: stuff in practice because I saw one time he had

694
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 2: this thing where he would get on the baseline and

695
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: then he would just start backing up. And you know,

696
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 2: he was wearing about two eighty or whatever he started

697
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,760
Speaker 2: backing up, so whoever was behind him was getting pushed

698
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 2: all the way to the foul line. And that's how

699
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: he got a lot of rebounds. And you know, we

700
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:45,320
Speaker 2: noticed and said, hey, man, it's effective. And actually Paul

701
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 2: Silas used to do the same thing, so I don't

702
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: know whether he got it from Pearl Silas or he

703
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: invented himself, but it worked.

704
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 7: I got rets and roaches like Cripson bloods my house man.

705
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 6: He crawled by shooters all the time. I come him over,

706
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 6: work out the break fights.

707
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 5: I always gonna ask you this, like, you know, there's

708
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 5: a lot of comparisons. Man, you get upset when they

709
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 5: make the Chris Tucker comparison.

710
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 2: M M.

711
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 6: I'd rather be compared to somebody great that somebody who ain't.

712
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 7: Doing nothing, so thank you. But you know, it's it's

713
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 7: a it's a it's a dialect. And I understand when

714
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 7: people who not from Atlanta may not understand the way

715
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 7: we talk and our mannerism. That's just like two comedians

716
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 7: from the Orleans you will swear they the same. Could

717
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 7: they talk the same? And you're like, no, they from

718
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 7: the walls.

719
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 6: That's just how they talk.

720
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 7: And when people used to tell me when I was

721
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 7: coming up, they was like, you mind me of Chris Tucker.

722
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 6: I didn't know who he was at first until I went.

723
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 7: To go watch one of his movie cause we ain't

724
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 7: have no okay, ain't no deep like this one, the

725
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 7: one like you gotta wait and figure out how I'm

726
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 7: gonna find out who is it?

727
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 6: You ain't got no internet. I'm like, who is this person?

728
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 6: They keep telling me. I act like I got to

729
00:35:59,320 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 6: find out.

730
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 7: Who years we ain't going to no movies. I don't

731
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 7: even know nothing, no nothing.

732
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 5: I can't afford on the street.

733
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 7: And I come across a Friday movie and put the

734
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 7: DVD in.

735
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 6: I was like, let me see. And when he came on,

736
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 6: I was like okay.

737
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 7: But then when I got older, like middle school, I

738
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 7: saw money talk.

739
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 6: When I said, asked me in real life, yep, like

740
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 6: what you mean?

741
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 5: Yep?

742
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 6: I keep forgetting you here. Every time I hear something,

743
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 6: I'm like, yep. I'm like say something, every move say something.

744
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 6: You know what, d C.

745
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 3: I'll give you this credit. I knew you were going

746
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 3: to be a star.

747
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 4: I heard you scream because I've only seen Chris Tucker

748
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 4: and Will Smith do that comedic yell, and you did it,

749
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 4: and I was like, this kid had Like that was

750
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 4: when I knew you had it.

751
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,760
Speaker 6: Bro, I appreciate the boy. Boy, that's crazy.

752
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 7: That's the only thing you find talent is me screaming,

753
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 7: me being terrified.

754
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 6: Goddamn, thank you. I appreciate Listen.

755
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 4: I'll go I'll go back to doctor J now because

756
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 4: my doctor I question. I saw a clip of you

757
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 4: facing Kareem one on one, and I know that that

758
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 4: was an event. We could bring a one on one

759
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 4: tournament to today's NBA.

760
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: That's real basketball too. Uh. You know, I think you

761
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: you won't get all the top players to be involved

762
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,439
Speaker 2: in it, but the next level. You know, so let's

763
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: say if there's five hundred players, you know you got

764
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: two und fifty candidates there, but there's there's a whole

765
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: bunch who who won't do it. The egos are not

766
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 2: going to allow it. And uh, that's why you know

767
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: you don't get sometimes the greatest dunkers in in the

768
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: game in the dunk contest because they just like, I

769
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 2: ain't trying to come in second or third or fourth,

770
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 2: and you know it, because it's about the brand right now.

771
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: They don't want to do anything to diminish the brand.

772
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 4: But shack, why are they afraid of losing when if

773
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 4: you win, you could become a star.

774
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 5: Because they don't because they're afraid of com And the

775
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 5: reason why Mac McClung won last year because he wants

776
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 5: to be a competitor. He's not at the NBA left

777
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 5: yet and he wasn't afraid of the competition. And I

778
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 5: knew he was going to win. That's why they got

779
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 5: the clip of me saying, let these people know who

780
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 5: you are, let them know your name, and like they

781
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 5: tried to give me flack. Oh you didn't know. I

782
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 5: knew his name, but you guys didn't know his name.

783
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 5: So it's a shame that you know, our biggest stars

784
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 5: are afraid of competition. I started watching Dunk contests because

785
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 5: of this man after he left Dominic and Mike took

786
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 5: it over and Evince chasing.

787
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 7: The money instead of chasing the fight to be a champion.

788
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 7: I don't get me wrong, the money is there, but

789
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 7: like y'all don't want to be champion.

790
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 5: My thing with that is they don't pay homage and

791
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 5: sure respect. I wouldn't be able to make forty MILLI

792
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,919
Speaker 5: without him, Magic wouldn't be able to sign twenty five

793
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: for twenty five. When I was in high school and

794
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 5: I starw that twenty five for twenty five, I was like,

795
00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 5: oh my god, you see me crying. Bro that twenty

796
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: five or twenty five. I was like, man, if he

797
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 5: can twenty of me in the year, I can get

798
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 5: six hundred thousand. And then by the time I came,

799
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 5: he was forty million. So you know, get your money,

800
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: do you think? But you have to respect the game,

801
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 5: and you know, respect them like you know they got

802
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: you know, they got all these lists. Now, when I

803
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 5: went to the Ostar game and got respected by them,

804
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 5: I don't give about no lists. Doctor J said, I

805
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 5: like your game. It like when I was in Orlando,

806
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 5: A lot of people don't notice and I was getting

807
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: ready to leave. Who do you think I called? Only

808
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 5: called one man. I didn't call my mama and they

809
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 5: called my daddy. I called one man. This man ran in.

810
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 5: I said, Doc, I got an opportunity. They're not doing

811
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 5: this but the band, but the bang and you know

812
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 5: what Doc said. Doc said, follow your heart, young fellow.

813
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 5: Because Doc was living in Orlando next door to my parents,

814
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 5: next door between Yeah, that's right, it was yeah there.

815
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 5: So I called Doc. I was like, Doc, day, I

816
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 5: want this. They not giving it to me. The other

817
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 5: people to give me a hundred million. Doctor say O

818
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,239
Speaker 5: get the hundred incident, Doc said check. I'm I'm a

819
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 5: fan of yours. I love how the way you play it.

820
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,879
Speaker 5: That's all I needed right there, and he said, hey, man,

821
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 5: follow your heart. So I went to go to l A.

822
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 5: But the guys are chasing the money, and get your money,

823
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: but at least respect the game. Play hard into the

824
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 5: dunk contest. You know the reason why I like fish

825
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 5: to save Pittsburgh because it was entertaining. And my father

826
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 5: taught me when you when when when people pay you

827
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 5: to perform, entertain.

828
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 6: Entertain that's entertained in the NBA game entertaining.

829
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 7: That's why I love it when y'all dunk and be

830
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 7: going crazy. I'm like, listen, bro, I can go see

831
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 7: people play basketball all day. They playing at church, they

832
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 7: playing a direct league, they playing. I just got through playing,

833
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,399
Speaker 7: but we ain't man like y'all. It's a reason why

834
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,840
Speaker 7: y'all here, and it's a little bit of something we

835
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 7: just be wanting to see that. Like I didn't get

836
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 7: a chance to see Michael. I didn't get a chance

837
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 7: to see you. I didn't get a chance to see you.

838
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 7: So when I actually see people that give me a

839
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 7: little bit, Oh.

840
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: What you did, what you did?

841
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: What might did? I'd be like, oh, so.

842
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 7: These are the conversations that I want to be a

843
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 7: part of in the barbershop talk when when we talking, Oh,

844
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 7: you wonder that when you've seen him, I just got

845
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 7: to see him, and just listen.

846
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: We have the perfect person to answer the question, doctor j.

847
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 4: What would it have been like if Shaq faced off

848
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 4: against dwelt Chamberlain.

849
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 5: Hm, oh you want to answer for you?

850
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 6: Donk you mad?

851
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: No?

852
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 3: Let him answer?

853
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: Go ahead, you want to give yours and then I

854
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: give mind in my hond of bus Wilson, Yeah that.

855
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 5: How about that?

856
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 4: No?

857
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 5: No, could no, no, because you know why because I

858
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 5: looked over and I have seen him playing with my idol,

859
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 5: and that would have pissed me off. There you go,

860
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 5: that would have pissed me off. So would have been like, Doc,

861
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 5: you're playing with that and you and you ain't playing

862
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 5: with me. Watch this will in the first player of

863
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 5: the game, I'm gonna try to knock it teeth out

864
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 5: of his mouth. How about that go ahead document. I

865
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: don't know if anything needs to be said or whatever.

866
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 2: I mean. Obviously they were different eras, but the all

867
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: the diversification that was in Shack's game or whatever would

868
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 2: have made for a very very tough matchup for Wilt Chamberlain.

869
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 2: Wilt Chamberlain constantly played against Bill Russell, and he dominated

870
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: Bill Russell. But Russell's team won the game, you know,

871
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 2: so so so with your kill, now, would it be

872
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: a matter of who wins the matchup or who wins

873
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: the game? You know? Because Russell is definitely on my

874
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: list of all time greats, in my top five, in

875
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 2: that list of five that I made when I was

876
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: fifteen years old or whatever. But I got Chamberlain in

877
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: there too, and I got Algend Bayla as aforementioned, and

878
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: I got Oscar Robertson and Jerry West and some people

879
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,439
Speaker 2: don't even know, you know, they can't remember those names

880
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 2: or what those guys did. So when I was fifteen,

881
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: those are the ones that I identified with, because that

882
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: was nineteen sixty five and they were the men in

883
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 2: the game. They were the best in the game. Shaq

884
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 2: versus Will.

885
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 5: Man.

886
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,959
Speaker 2: That's a question for the age. Is like Shaq said,

887
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 2: he would take no prisoners. You know, he knows all

888
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: the records that Will has. He knows the records that

889
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 2: he has or whatever. It ain't about the stats in

890
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: that particular game. I think it's about, you know, being

891
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: blessed with the opportunity to see two giants of the game,

892
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: and they could be one two or two to one,

893
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 2: depends on who you're talking to on the court at

894
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: the same time, that would be a fantasy.

895
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 5: A lot of people don't know about this about me,

896
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 5: I'm petty. So when I was playing, I was getting

897
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 5: close to the World Chamberlain. I wanted to pass them

898
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 5: up in points. I already passed them up in Championship,

899
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,240
Speaker 5: but I wanted to pass them up in points because

900
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 5: I was going to go going to go on TV

901
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 5: and angrily say I am the most dominant big man ever. See,

902
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 5: there's a lot of titles out there, the grades of

903
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 5: all time. I never wanted those titles. I wanted the

904
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 5: title of most dominant, most feared. So, you know, because

905
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 5: I missed five thousand free throws because I missed two

906
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty games. I was I'm only like two

907
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 5: thousand points away, but I wanted to like play one

908
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 5: or two more years to pass them up because I

909
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,879
Speaker 5: was gonna say I'm the most dominant big man. Ever,

910
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear nobody else's name. So now

911
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,719
Speaker 5: like when they say most dominant is me and him

912
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 5: and you know a couple other guys, I don't mind that.

913
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 5: But that's my only regret with me. You playing the game,

914
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 5: So Doc, yeah, you leave you leave.

915
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 2: Stuff on the table man negotiations and business deals or whatever.

916
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,479
Speaker 2: You know, it's okay to leave stuff on the table.

917
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: Get the deal that you dealt and and uh go

918
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: ahead and make the best of that. Do you get

919
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: have regrets you have that you can't change. I wish

920
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,240
Speaker 2: I had that Steph Curry jumper.

921
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 6: A problem was like you just couldn't see.

922
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 5: I know one thing.

923
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 2: I know one thing. If I lift weights, right, I

924
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:35,720
Speaker 2: go to the foul line, shoot air boss. Yeah, I couldnot.

925
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: I could not lift weights. Anytime I saw somebody with

926
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 2: flowing their free throw game, I think too strong, Thank you,

927
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: docah too strong? There was a reason you were.

928
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 6: All time.

929
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 2: But you know.

930
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 5: Throw line.

931
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 6: You're like, man, you I ain't even trying to get fired.

932
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 5: That been that's been said.

933
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: I could take some files, you just le it.

934
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 5: Oh that's probably so real. Yeah, I don't listen. I

935
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 5: come from a era we don't make excuses.

936
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 2: But you know, crazy got to kill forsiatic because since

937
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 2: everybody's gonna fix his free throw.

938
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 7: I want to hear one of these Jerry Wizz stories

939
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 7: because I know Geral Wiz before there was a stiff

940
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 7: and pure shrewters.

941
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 6: I know on the game that I figured out who

942
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 6: Jerry West was on the game.

943
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: Okay, playing the game. In the game, yeah you didn't

944
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: know why.

945
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 6: Boy, every time I shoot he is phenomenal. I'm a

946
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:44,920
Speaker 6: slaughter one up.

947
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 2: That's how he played too. But went up to they

948
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: always they lost the championship with the Boston probably like

949
00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: seven times, maybe eight times, because Boston won like eleven

950
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 2: times Bill Russell's thirteen years, LA was the victim most

951
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 2: of the times and Jerry West was the victim. And

952
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: in one of those series he was the MVP of

953
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 2: the series and they lost. The team lost the series

954
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 2: to Boston, So how crazy he was that. So that

955
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: shows how good he was. And I remember when they

956
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: played the Knicks and Willis Reed Clyde Frazier. You know,

957
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 2: Nicks had a great team whatever, and they played they

958
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 2: played Los Angeles. Will was playing with Los Angeles and

959
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 2: there was one game there was no three point line.

960
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: Jerry West came over half court and let it fly

961
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 2: like Steph Curry. He let it fly, he went in,

962
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,840
Speaker 2: he ran back. I was like, once it went in,

963
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: I said, this man, he got hard, he ain't got

964
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 2: no fear and whatever. And in matchup situations whatever, you're

965
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: gonna have your hands full if you have to play

966
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 2: against him. So him and Oscar Robertson, they they were

967
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: a tandem. And he always had a lot of respect

968
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 2: for Oscar Robinson because he talks about them playing in

969
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 2: the Olympics together, maybe like in sixty four or whatever.

970
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 2: In the USA had a real dominant team because they

971
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: had those two and a bunch of other guys or whatever.

972
00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: But Jerry West man all time, all time greatness and

973
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 2: still a basketball guy like pat Riley. I mean, I

974
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: don't know where to get the training from, but they

975
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 2: just stay in basketball, and you.

976
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,479
Speaker 5: Know, and they hate to lose. Jerry was the reason

977
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 5: why I got to the Lakers. So ninety six. I

978
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,480
Speaker 5: don't know if you're gonna story. During Olympics, I was

979
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 5: negotiating with Orlando. I was a Magic City and my

980
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 5: agent called me and said, hey, man, you gotta come

981
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 5: meet Jerry. Because I never met him, I knew who

982
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 5: he was. So we get up to this suite. He

983
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 5: was smooth. He had at one Vasachi house coach and

984
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 5: he said, Shack, I got some good news. I got

985
00:48:58,080 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 5: some bad news. I said, well, what's the bad news, sir?

986
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 5: He said, I can't get you that one fifty you want,

987
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 5: but I can get you this and give me that contract.

988
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 2: Bro.

989
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 5: I hain't never seen so many these zeroes in my life.

990
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 5: I was like, but he was like, you gotta sign now.

991
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 5: And I was like, like, I don't have time to

992
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 5: call nobody. He's like, you gotta sign now. And then

993
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 5: right when I was signing, he said, let me tell

994
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 5: you something. I'm I'm about to get this young kid

995
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 5: from high school. We did a deal with Charlotte. We're

996
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 5: gonna move Vladie kid Nained, Kobe Bryant, and y'all gonna

997
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 5: win championships. So I signed it, and then you know

998
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,959
Speaker 5: that story you told about them losing sometimes. I didn't

999
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 5: know that either. So when me and Kobe first got jellaed,

1000
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 5: we always got swept. We're probably the biggest legends that

1001
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 5: got swept. Most time I got swept, think baptops. So

1002
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 5: the last time we got swept, I'm in the bathroom.

1003
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 5: I'm ripping urinals out the wall, I'm ripping tours. I'm

1004
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 5: going crazy. It's water right everywhere. Sure, no, seriously, Like,

1005
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 5: I'm going crazy because you know, every time we lose,

1006
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: was this me shack for free throw. He's trying to

1007
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 5: be a rapid like it's always coming back on me,

1008
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 5: and I just got tired of it. So I'm tearing

1009
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 5: the bathroom around. So Jerry Wesh comes and grabbed me

1010
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 5: run the back strung and he just calmed down. I

1011
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 5: lost the Boss and seven and nine times and the

1012
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 5: finals before I won, And like, as soon as he

1013
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 5: said that, I was like, because it was a piece

1014
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 5: of history, I didn't know. I was like, I was like,

1015
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 5: what you just say? He said? I lost seven to

1016
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 5: nine times in the finals to the Boston Celtics, So

1017
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 5: that kind of gave me a little bit more patience on,

1018
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 5: you know, being patient and learning how to win. But

1019
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 5: you make a good point, like we all need to

1020
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 5: become historians of the game. Because Spencer Conny cursed me

1021
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 5: out one time. He said, you know who. I said, no,

1022
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 5: He said, you should know. I'm the reason why you

1023
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 5: know guys can leave school early and come. I said, well,

1024
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 5: no disrespect, and he said, I'll come. You know no

1025
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,439
Speaker 5: history of the game, And I told him, I said,

1026
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 5: because it starts here. He's the first guy to say

1027
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 5: anybody before you before me, anybody before you, I don't know,

1028
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 5: like I have to like see it or like here

1029
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 5: or so I don't know. So like he went off.

1030
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 5: And but he you know, when when you made that

1031
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 5: point about we need to learn again, it's true because

1032
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 5: I get upset when they talk about the goats. Then

1033
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 5: they don't mention my guy. That pisces me off, like

1034
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 5: you know when they talk about these bas No not, nope,

1035
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: nope no, Doc, I will not I will not out

1036
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 5: for you, Doc. I'm letting you know right now. So Doc,

1037
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 5: can I give you a gift?

1038
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 2: Sure?

1039
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 5: Man, I want to give you a gift, and I

1040
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 5: ain't got for you. John Whitfield.

1041
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 6: Got a gun boy.

1042
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: I got a feeling about this.

1043
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 5: So since I grew up watching you, these are all

1044
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 5: the watches that were created for me and by me.

1045
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 5: So I just wanted to give you all of these,

1046
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 5: my brother. You check it out. Come on, man, you

1047
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,839
Speaker 5: got because I grew up watching you. Yeah, oh yeah,

1048
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,560
Speaker 5: you're done. So this is for you, and you can

1049
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 5: give something to my main man, Barry. But this is

1050
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 5: for your brother because I grew up watching you and

1051
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 5: all that I got my brother because of you. You've

1052
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 5: done a lot for me, and I know I thank

1053
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 5: you every time I see I just want to let

1054
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 5: you know I love you and I appreciate you, and

1055
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 5: I ain't got for you. John John John Cornelius Whitfield.

1056
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 6: I won't know what is she killed the deal O'Neill.

1057
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 2: Every day.

1058
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, yes, sir, get warm.

1059
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 5: That's for your brother. I appreciate you and thank and

1060
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 5: you know you haven't made anything for me. Brother. You

1061
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,239
Speaker 5: know I got you. I appreciate your brother because I

1062
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 5: grew up watching your brother. So those are all the

1063
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 5: watch that I created.

1064
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 6: No disrespect man, people that pay the wait.

1065
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 3: I like that.

1066
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 6: I'm taking that Sunday.

1067
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 5: Have you ever had a roseworse. Yes, sir, have you

1068
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 5: ever had a Biley?

1069
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,320
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, I know you got a Billy asked me

1070
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 6: no question as to me.

1071
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:18,080
Speaker 5: Have you ever had a Rosewarse? Well, I think you

1072
00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 5: should go buy one?

1073
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 6: Got give it? I was about given I had what's

1074
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 6: that you got one one with?

1075
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,120
Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty five?

1076
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 5: You had an eighty five Camar convertible.

1077
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 2: C A M A R G U E.

1078
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 5: When I got a nineteen eighty five. And one of

1079
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 5: the other person in the United States you have one

1080
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 5: of was Muhammad Ali's wife. Oh damn. And that car

1081
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 5: is in mich garage. Oh seriously, to.

1082
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 2: Walk right past it to get the Minael truck.

1083
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,880
Speaker 5: I'm driving BMW right now.

1084
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 6: Talk you talk? Can I ask you a question? Though

1085
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 6: you was in playing ball during the time of inequality,

1086
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 6: like you was literally like.

1087
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: Oh seventies, are you kidding?

1088
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:01,720
Speaker 5: Okay, So here's what you're talking about.

1089
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 2: You're talking about going to hotels and saying no colored

1090
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 2: only right down there on the water fountains.

1091
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1092
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, once you get past the Mason Dixon line, right

1093
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: and you can't stop til you get to your grandmother's

1094
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 2: house anymore because you could stop for gas. But you

1095
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,320
Speaker 2: can't stop for no food.

1096
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 5: And that was real, man, That was that was that

1097
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 5: was real.

1098
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: And I lived during that era. I met some interesting

1099
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:34,960
Speaker 2: people who historically made differences. I spent time built aforementioned

1100
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:40,880
Speaker 2: Bill Cosby, Miles Davis, Arthur Ash, Reggie Jackson. I mean,

1101
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 2: we had meetings to talk about pooling our money to

1102
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: do something in the black community that was gonna make

1103
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,880
Speaker 2: it better for the kids, the next generation and whatever.

1104
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, several of those guys are

1105
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 2: not here anymore. Miles is not here, Arthur Ash is

1106
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 2: not here anymore. But their legacies live on in terms

1107
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: of getting through the seventies excelling with whatever it was

1108
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 2: they were doing, whether it was stand up comedy music

1109
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 2: or whether it was tennis as author played or Reggie Jackson,

1110
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 2: you know, in four home runs for the Yankees, back

1111
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 2: to back to back to back and coming mister October.

1112
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: So you know, those are times that I will never forget.

1113
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,399
Speaker 2: And I just saw Reggie less than a week ago

1114
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,600
Speaker 2: and whatever. And when you just sat and you know,

1115
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:33,200
Speaker 2: reflected on what has happened, what's happening now, and how

1116
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: much is different and some of the things that are

1117
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 2: still the same that are still the same and haven't changed,

1118
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 2: and shame on that.

1119
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 6: So coming from coming from you realize things hasn't changed.

1120
00:55:48,120 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 6: What you see, the opportunities have risen a little bit more.

1121
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I mean the world the world's different.

1122
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 5: Is it for the better?

1123
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 2: Probably because of the technology, the science and educational opportunities,

1124
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 2: uh that are that are out there for us, the

1125
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: business opportunities that are out there, particularly for us, for

1126
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 2: people of color or whatever. But you know, there's still

1127
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 2: people suffering, and there's still poverty. We still got people

1128
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 2: living on the streets. And you know, we're spending money,

1129
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 2: you know, with wars and other places in the world,

1130
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 2: and you know, the deficit, the deficit will never be remedied.

1131
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: But I think from a political standpoint, and I'm not

1132
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 2: an aggressively political person. You got to take care of

1133
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 2: home first, and there's so many people suffering here at

1134
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 2: home that we're turning the blind eye.

1135
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 5: To doctor j Have you run for president? I'm gonna

1136
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 5: be your biggest donor. Julius Irving for president. You like,

1137
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 5: I've been a family here since we since I jumped

1138
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 5: to your dear, have you ever failed as a comedian?

1139
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 5: I mean, bomb fails.

1140
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 6: Look at it as bombing. It's like it's like a

1141
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 6: bad game.

1142
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 7: You know, you're still there to entertain, but you probably

1143
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,520
Speaker 7: ain't sco thirty tonight. You might have got twelve rebounds.

1144
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:17,160
Speaker 7: You learnt something, So just enhance it. Whatever you do,

1145
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 7: just and put it into the next game. So I

1146
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 7: know as a comedian, as an actor, I'm going on

1147
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 7: stage and there's gonna be something new I'm going to.

1148
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 6: Do every night. I don't know.

1149
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 7: I know I have a certain routine and they're coming

1150
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 7: to see me. But I know for a fact, I

1151
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 7: was like, I like this particular Joe, but I'm gonna

1152
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,440
Speaker 7: do it on the left side of the night. I

1153
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 7: know it worked on the right, but I'm gonna just

1154
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 7: go to the left. Or I may stand in the middle,

1155
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 7: I may sit down when I tell it, I may

1156
00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 7: get up when I tell it. So it's like I'm

1157
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 7: always constantly critiquing myself to be better. I think that's

1158
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 7: the only way that you can be great. When you

1159
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 7: hear people like Kobe saying, all right, practice start at seven.

1160
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 6: I'm here five. It's over with at five, but I'm

1161
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 6: leaving it seven.

1162
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 7: It's like those extra four hours is what you're gonna

1163
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 7: do in the next in tomorrow's game, not from seven

1164
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 7: to five, it's from five to seven and then from

1165
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:18,040
Speaker 7: seven to nine them two extra them, four extra hours

1166
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 7: is what's gonna advance you.

1167
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 6: So I always want to be better. I study and

1168
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 6: I be a student of the game.

1169
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 7: And you know it's you don't look at it as

1170
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 7: you bad, because you'll start thinking that that's how you're

1171
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 7: gonna produce yourself and you're gonna be bad.

1172
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 6: You just want to go out there and be better,

1173
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 6: and knowing that always leave room for improvement.

1174
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: You gotta write it down or you have a library

1175
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: or yeah.

1176
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 6: I'm one of them. I'm like an old school writer.

1177
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 6: I gotta see it, write it, write a couple of time.

1178
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 7: Okay, I like I write it a couple time and

1179
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 7: write it and rewrite it sinking so I can play

1180
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 7: it in my head.

1181
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 6: I want to see you write something. I know you

1182
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 6: know you nothing regular shack. I don't care. I don't

1183
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 6: count ain't regular, Like you got three bad went together.

1184
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 6: They don't know that. I'm like, bro, this is four

1185
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 6: kings eyed Ben super.

1186
00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 5: I still can't believe your name is John Whitfield.

1187
00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 6: You know what and I thought that name was gonna

1188
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 6: give me so many jobs. Like you don't trust John Whitfield. No,

1189
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 6: I'm like, but the Anthony de Anthony over John. I'm like, bro,

1190
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 6: I'm doing something wrong.

1191
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 5: So you'll show eighty five South? Is there the other

1192
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:30,680
Speaker 5: two guys?

1193
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 2: How that?

1194
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 5: How that concept come about? Man?

1195
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 6: You know you shout out to the O. G. Collins Miller,

1196
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 6: you know what I mean?

1197
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 7: He put the play together, brought me along, brought Chico along,

1198
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 7: and it was just an idea, you know.

1199
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 6: And with this situation, I learned a lot by just

1200
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 6: being with friends and learned a lot about going in

1201
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,760
Speaker 6: business and knowing that we can do it if we

1202
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 6: really want to take the time out to do it.

1203
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 6: We really can.

1204
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 7: It's just take a little time and a little trust.

1205
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 7: And once you realize that you may not understand your

1206
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 7: friend's vision or his dream, but if you support.

1207
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 6: Them, it may take you far too.

1208
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, partners, partner, you may not see the vision. But

1209
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 2: about being a lone ranger, you know.

1210
01:00:17,960 --> 01:00:20,560
Speaker 7: I support your judgment, you know what I mean? And

1211
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 7: that's exactly what this situation did. It was like I

1212
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 7: didn't know what it was, but I'm continuously to like

1213
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:28,400
Speaker 7: learning as we grow.

1214
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 6: And I'm like, bro, I appreciate you if even just

1215
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 6: wanted me to be a part of this, and.

1216
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 7: Now I have to bring what I bring to the

1217
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 7: game to help this particular situation because you can't do

1218
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 7: it by yourself.

1219
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 6: But just to see us literally go from like like

1220
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 6: ground zero and it didn't work.

1221
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 7: Not saying that it didn't work because everybody thinking like

1222
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 7: you're making money, mean it don't work. No, we're just

1223
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:55,160
Speaker 7: putting time and effort into something that's longevity.

1224
01:00:55,560 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 6: So the first two three, four years we were just

1225
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 6: really putting time. It was just time coming to the circle,

1226
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 6: going in, not really going in circle.

1227
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 9: We learning, we're building, we're building our support, but we're

1228
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 9: using our other situation to help it dig you know

1229
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 9: what I'm saying, to compensate it.

1230
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 6: But it was like I want to start picking up.

1231
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 5: It was like, oh, it worked, it worked, Doc, we

1232
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 5: know you gotta go. One last question. I said a

1233
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 5: couple of weeks on my podcast that the only guy

1234
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,920
Speaker 5: I feared when I stepped on court was Michael Jordan

1235
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,720
Speaker 5: the first time. Was there anybody that when you first

1236
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 5: saw him on the court, scared, you made you made

1237
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 5: you breathe a little harder than you really breathe.

1238
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,919
Speaker 2: He phrased it a little bit, because yeah, I wasn't

1239
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 2: really afraid of anybody, you know what I mean. I

1240
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: played ball from an early age right on through, had

1241
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 2: a lot of successes or whatever. I always felt as

1242
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: though I was in Kareem shadow, you know. And uh

1243
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 2: when I when I left school after my junior year,

1244
01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 2: uh you know he was.

1245
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,040
Speaker 5: He had just left U C.

1246
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 9: L A.

1247
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 2: And because he was two years ahead of me, and uh,

1248
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 2: and we met over at Rhees Park coincidentally, because I

1249
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: went over there with some of my guys from my town,

1250
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 2: and uh, they said, Kareem's down there or lou all

1251
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,760
Speaker 2: Sender's down there, blah blah blah. So that particular day,

1252
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: he had a dashiki on, so he wasn't playing no basketball.

1253
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 2: He had a dashiki and some sandals or whatever. I

1254
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 2: went over and I introduced myself. He said, yeah, I

1255
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 2: heard about you, you know, because you know, I had

1256
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 2: like averaged twenty eight points or twenty one rebounds. So

1257
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 2: I guess he heard about me if he followed any

1258
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 2: kind of stats. And and he said, yeah, I'm not

1259
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 2: playing today, but I'll probably see you down the road

1260
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: in the NBA, and I went to the ABA. So

1261
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 2: it was a five year period in which I was

1262
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,880
Speaker 2: pretty much dominating the ABA. But I was still kind

1263
01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 2: of in his shadow because people, you know, looked at him.

1264
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 2: He changed his name and you know, and his religious

1265
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 2: beliefs and his popularity. You know, he was he was

1266
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: he was considered be the number one player. So I

1267
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 2: was like, I'm gonna get my chance, just like like

1268
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 2: you were saying before. I said I would get my chance.

1269
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 2: And then, uh, first time we played him in the finals,

1270
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 2: we played Portland in the finals. That was Bill Walton's team.

1271
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 2: Then in eighty in eighty and in eighty two we

1272
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: played Los Angeles in the finals and they beat us.

1273
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 2: I said, I'm gonna be in the shadow a rest

1274
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 2: we got we went and got Big Moses whatever, and

1275
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: we beat them four straight, fourth straight, And that I

1276
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 2: was just I was just relieved. I was like, Brick

1277
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,120
Speaker 2: was over my head trying to hit me, and it

1278
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 2: went the other way, you know. So I was a

1279
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: little only in his shadow. I didn't fear him or

1280
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: anything because we didn't even match up right, you know,

1281
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: in regular games. Did we did the one on one

1282
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: thing years later, you know when I was He was

1283
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 2: forty two when I was forty. But yeah, yeah, he

1284
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: was the guy. I felt like I was in the shadow.

1285
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 2: Now I felt like I came out and no looking back.

1286
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 3: I got two more for Doctor J before he leaves us.

1287
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:27,040
Speaker 3: Number one.

1288
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 4: I was shocked to see that there was a chance

1289
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,600
Speaker 4: that you were going to be on Atlanta and you

1290
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 4: actually had two exhibition games with them, and you were

1291
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 4: playing with pistol Pete And my first question is did

1292
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 4: you just have some insane alley oops with Pistol Pete

1293
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 4: Maravich that none of us will ever see.

1294
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 2: Well, I think there's some evidence of it. You know,

1295
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 2: we played two games, we scored we averaged one hundred

1296
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:57,720
Speaker 2: and thirty five points in the two games, and they

1297
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: were both against they were both against Houston, And you know,

1298
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: after practice we stay around. He was like Kobe, you know,

1299
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: he ain't trying to leave till hour two hours after practice.

1300
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:10,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to leave either, you know. So we

1301
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: go there, we play one on one and we play

1302
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: off of the ball, you know, alley oops and all

1303
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 2: kinds of stuff that was a little more unconventional because

1304
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: he was an amazing guy, an amazing player, an amazing person.

1305
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: And I was really trying to play in Atlanta. You know,

1306
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,840
Speaker 2: Atlanta was the place for the black man to be

1307
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 2: in that era, seventy to seventies or whatever. It was

1308
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: going through a whole lot of changes. It was leader

1309
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 2: in terms of civil rights, civil rights activity and whatever.

1310
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,040
Speaker 2: And they gave me two hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

1311
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 5: They gave me a.

1312
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: Car, which was a Jaguar, and they gave me a

1313
01:05:55,480 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: condominium and they said we want you. And I said, y'all,

1314
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: damn sure do this. In nineteen seventy one and I

1315
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 2: had I had a contract with Virginia and I was

1316
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 2: being paid one hundred and twenty five thousand, right, and

1317
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 2: I had yeah for the season. Yeah, this was my

1318
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 2: first contract. So I had a four year contract. Imagine.

1319
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,959
Speaker 2: It was like, no, we're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna

1320
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 2: leave here. We're going to Atlanta. And so from Virginia,

1321
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 2: I was going to Atlanta. I showed up at camp

1322
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 2: with Atlanta, got all the way through training camp. They

1323
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: also had Walt Bellamy, Lou Hudson, right, so two Hall

1324
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: of Famers and Pete Marriage there wasn't just pete marriage

1325
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: to me. So we were loaded. Cotton fitz Simmons was coaching.

1326
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 2: He was up tempo coach. He'd liked to see running

1327
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:51,960
Speaker 2: and gunning, and I was like, I'm your man. So anyway,

1328
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: the draft came that year and Atlanta had like the

1329
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 2: fifth pick in the draft. My class graduated that year,

1330
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,800
Speaker 2: the class of seventy two from college graduated that year,

1331
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,320
Speaker 2: so I was eligible to be drafted into the NBA,

1332
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:14,440
Speaker 2: whereas the year before I was not eligible. I had

1333
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 2: left school. So they draft a guard from Missouri.

1334
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 5: And we said, oh oh.

1335
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 2: And then the twelfth pick, Milwaukee Bucks drafted me. We said,

1336
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a problem because the NBA is going

1337
01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 2: to stand behind their franchises. Right Milwaukee drafted me, they

1338
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 2: got Kareem, they got Oscar Robertson, and my agent said,

1339
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 2: now you don't want to go there, Like, okay, where

1340
01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,680
Speaker 2: am I going? He said, Let's go to Atlanta and

1341
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 2: let's see what happens. So we go to Atlanta. The

1342
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 2: previous story, training camp, exhibition games, they sit they the

1343
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 2: league says you have to sit Julius Irving down. So

1344
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: I go to the end of the bench, because they

1345
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 2: won't let me play any more games, right because it's

1346
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: in violation of the rules or powers that be or whatever.

1347
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 2: Milwaukee was complaining. And so I go to the end

1348
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 2: of the bench. I sat there for like two days,

1349
01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 2: and I told my agent, I said, I'm going back

1350
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:22,679
Speaker 2: to the Squires. I'm going back to the A BA.

1351
01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 2: So I left and went back to the A B A.

1352
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: The proceedings went through a court in New York and

1353
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 2: went through arbitration. They ruled in Milwaukee's favor. So Atlanta

1354
01:08:34,280 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 2: was out of whatever they was, whatever it was that

1355
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 2: they gave me. And I kept a condo down here

1356
01:08:39,560 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: for five years and my nephew, Barry, his mom, my sister,

1357
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,360
Speaker 2: and his two brothers. They lived in that condo. That's

1358
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,879
Speaker 2: how they got introduced to Atlanta.

1359
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 6: So ABA was another league, John Woodfield, Vadill O'Neill.

1360
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 3: Man.

1361
01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 4: Who would you put alongside of you as the four

1362
01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:06,760
Speaker 4: best dunkers of all time? So it's you, then three

1363
01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 4: more spots.

1364
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 2: A hard Bence Carter okay, Dominique Okay, I'll go with MJ.

1365
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 10: Nice Shack to you approof yes, that's doc, of course

1366
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 10: I approve. But the list is more than four and

1367
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 10: I gotta, I gotta. I got a photograph in my house.

1368
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,280
Speaker 10: I'm gonna give it to Shack. I'm decided to give

1369
01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 10: it to you.

1370
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 2: So it's me Dominique, Vince Carter, Kobe, Michael Clyde, Drexler. Yeah,

1371
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:49,599
Speaker 2: standing side by side in suits getting ready the slam

1372
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:54,280
Speaker 2: dunk contest. What you had some expertise in that contest.

1373
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 5: So, guys, thank you for coming to the shirt hookah lines.

1374
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 5: We appreciate you very much.

1375
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:01,000
Speaker 6: Anytime.

1376
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 5: Name is John Whitfields.

1377
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 2: That man we got the same initials, Jerome.

1378
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,719
Speaker 6: I guess yours, yours, yours your rhyme to Jerome chrome.

1379
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,800
Speaker 6: He put you in it. He put you in it.

1380
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 2: You you.

1381
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 5: Name Joe hold On?

1382
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:25,760
Speaker 3: Not quite like that.

1383
01:10:28,479 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 6: Named Joe Whitfield school what somebody name that?

1384
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 5: Adam Adam? The white families argue back and forth like this.

1385
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 3: Well they're Nigerian, so I don't understand half of the

1386
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: words there.

1387
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:46,799
Speaker 6: Unplugged his computer?

1388
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 5: Oh no, oh no, his wife is Nigerian.

1389
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,680
Speaker 6: His wife, Yes, you asked him about his.

1390
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:03,840
Speaker 5: Love you guys, I'm yeah, I appreciate you, Thank you,

1391
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 5: We appreciate you.

1392
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:09,600
Speaker 4: It is now time for doctor O'Neill fan advice and

1393
01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:11,880
Speaker 4: a reminder to everybody if you have a question you'd

1394
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 4: like to ask Doctor O'Neil because he's a real doctor.

1395
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 4: You can leave a question the YouTube comments for this

1396
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,960
Speaker 4: episode or send it to ask doctor O'Neill at gmail

1397
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 4: dot com. We still have DC youngfly because we believe

1398
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,559
Speaker 4: he will give great insight to this question as well.

1399
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 4: Tiffany from New York City asks Doctor O'Neill. My boyfriend

1400
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:34,800
Speaker 4: has a weird relationship with his mom. He talks to

1401
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 4: her on the phone for hours, text her NonStop, and

1402
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:40,360
Speaker 4: even calls her to say good night. Sometimes I feel

1403
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:41,360
Speaker 4: invisible to him.

1404
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 3: Am I tripping Doctor O'Neil?

1405
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 5: Yes, I know. The first thing is I don't know

1406
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 5: how mom, how old his mother is, but you always

1407
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:55,680
Speaker 5: want to tell your loved ones that you love them.

1408
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 5: I say this all the time, and I mean it,

1409
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 5: and hopefully people can learn from the story. My sister

1410
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 5: was very sick. I went to see her and I

1411
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:10,680
Speaker 5: asked her. I said, you want me to stay, but

1412
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,759
Speaker 5: everybody knows I work and I take care of family.

1413
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 5: They don't want me to worry. So she says, no,

1414
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 5: I'll see you when you come back, go to La

1415
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 5: got a plan. I'm going to La red our flight,

1416
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:25,560
Speaker 5: come back, see her tomorrow in the hospital. Did I

1417
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 5: call this I love you?

1418
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 2: No?

1419
01:12:28,120 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 5: Did I call the check on her No? Did I

1420
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 5: call it all?

1421
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 2: No?

1422
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 5: Because my thought process was I'll call her tomorrow. Everything is,

1423
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,759
Speaker 5: I'll call her tomorrow. I call her tomorrow, I call tomorrow.

1424
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,680
Speaker 5: So my message to the people was, if you have

1425
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,680
Speaker 5: loved ones, you have enemies. If you have people, your

1426
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:45,360
Speaker 5: cousins that you ain't talked to and you think about them,

1427
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 5: shoot them at text, get on the call, tell them

1428
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 5: how you feel about them. That's the part that's not weird. Now,

1429
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 5: the other answer to that is it's very weird. Obviously

1430
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 5: he's a Obviously he's a mama's boy, and he loves

1431
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 5: his mother. Maybe you should have a conversation with his mother,

1432
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 5: and his mother can give you some insight on how

1433
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 5: he really is so you can better learn to understand him.

1434
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 5: Because I've learned over the last couple of years a

1435
01:13:14,120 --> 01:13:17,560
Speaker 5: relationship should be about what you need and not what

1436
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 5: you want. So obviously, this young man needs his mother's voice,

1437
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:24,560
Speaker 5: he needs his mother's comfort, He needs to tell his

1438
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 5: mother he loves him. I advise him to everybody out there.

1439
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 5: Call your mama, call your daddy, call your cousin, call

1440
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 5: your brother, call the guy that you haven't talked to

1441
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,080
Speaker 5: in a while, say what's up. I love you, and

1442
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:40,320
Speaker 5: just let him know you miss him, because when they're gone,

1443
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 5: they're gone forever.

1444
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 7: I'm with Shock on this one, you know what I mean,

1445
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:48,080
Speaker 7: especially when you think about him.

1446
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 6: Just shoot him a shoot him and they don't have

1447
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,200
Speaker 6: to be long when they don't have to be a

1448
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 6: long conversation. Just hey, man, I thought about the little

1449
01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,839
Speaker 6: you scrape. They will were good cool, see tomorrow. Boom

1450
01:13:57,400 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 6: that goes a long way.

1451
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 7: It speaks all you versus you like thinking that you

1452
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 7: have to have a long conversation, because we do that

1453
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 7: a lot when we think we got tomorrow, because we

1454
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 7: always continuous lead to see tomorrow. But sometimes some people

1455
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 7: may not see tomorrow. So when you do, think about

1456
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:20,600
Speaker 7: somebody shooting their text. But on the other note that

1457
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 7: I ain't here, mama.

1458
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 6: Girls, that is a cougar. He is banging that every

1459
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 6: and he know how slow you is. He like the

1460
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 6: cougar like she ain't gonna go for it. He like, man,

1461
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 6: shut up? She thank you, Ma mama. Look she laying

1462
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 6: right here. Hey, I'm talking to my mama like, no,

1463
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 6: it is a cougar.

1464
01:14:44,120 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 7: She is keeping that thing hot and red there like

1465
01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,360
Speaker 7: a hot fogget girl. And I'm telling you, I ain't

1466
01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 7: telling you what to do because I stick up with

1467
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 7: my brothers. Matter of fact, it is is mama.

1468
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 6: What am I saying? It's his mama.

1469
01:15:01,320 --> 01:15:03,360
Speaker 3: Every night he's saying, I love you, mama.

1470
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 6: It's his mama. If you gonna keep going for a girl,

1471
01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 6: it's his mama. He is crazy.

1472
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,080
Speaker 4: Just call the phone one day, Yeah, check check his

1473
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 4: phone and see if he has a mom and a mama,

1474
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 4: because they might be different people.

1475
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 6: You never know.

1476
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 3: You never know.

1477
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,639
Speaker 5: I didn't think of it like that, but that makes.

1478
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 6: Is not his mama, and she's slow. She keep going

1479
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 6: for it. Has your mama did two hours?

1480
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1481
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, you know, talk about something in the third grade.

1482
01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 7: No, bro, you need help, Yiald. Just call the phone

1483
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 7: or just ask him. Let him speak to your mama.

1484
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 7: Or if you're a con artist, when you see the mama,

1485
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 7: talk to the mama and act like you like, yeah, man,

1486
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 7: I heard you.

1487
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,479
Speaker 6: You be talking to I don't be talking to him.

1488
01:15:58,200 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 6: She's like you don't.

1489
01:16:00,760 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 4: See Shaq DC posted a clip on IG recently of

1490
01:16:05,160 --> 01:16:07,840
Speaker 4: him doing play by play of NBA games.

1491
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 3: And I do want him to come by T n

1492
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,280
Speaker 3: T one night and just kind of set them up.

1493
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 3: I think it would be fun.

1494
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 6: I tell the truth now, be with all that, I

1495
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 6: don't care who you is. I tell the truth.

1496
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 7: You're in the NBA, so I respect that. But if

1497
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,920
Speaker 7: you were sorry that night, I'm gonna let you know.

1498
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,120
Speaker 6: Like, Bro, you can't be talking to me like you

1499
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 6: just dropped thirty You dropped four points.

1500
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,280
Speaker 7: With nine field goal attempts, So that mean you only

1501
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 7: tried to shoot nine times, like you But that when

1502
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 7: we were talking about early Russell Webrook. I like his

1503
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 7: style of basketball. I'm like, you want to be the greatest.

1504
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 7: You're going there with the griss and you're going there

1505
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:48,639
Speaker 7: with passion.

1506
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 2: You have it.

1507
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 6: You put your emotion on your sleeve. Like that's what

1508
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,160
Speaker 6: we missing in the game.

1509
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 7: It's too many looking for fouls and as soon as

1510
01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 7: something happening, they're looking at the real life.

1511
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 6: That's a muscle memory. Soon as something happened, they who

1512
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 6: you see nothing. You're like, man, get back and play defense. Man,

1513
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 6: you an't out of damn call man. So he's like, yeah,

1514
01:17:09,840 --> 01:17:10,920
Speaker 6: bring me on TNT man.

1515
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 3: I would love to be the play by play guy

1516
01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,720
Speaker 3: next to d C. I would It would all right, DC,

1517
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,840
Speaker 3: you want to try on realm and we'll pretend like

1518
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:19,479
Speaker 3: Shak's playing.

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01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 4: Oh come, welcome everybody inside Staples Center where we're getting

1520
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 4: ready to see Shaquille O'Neill. It's a big matchup taking

1521
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:29,920
Speaker 4: on his former teammate Kobe Bryant. I'm joined alongside as

1522
01:17:29,960 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 4: always by DC, Young Fly DC.

1523
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 3: What do you think about tonight's game?

1524
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 6: One thing I love about tonight's game.

1525
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 7: You know, Shaquille he dominated the paint, you know, and

1526
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 7: Kobe went crazy beyond the three.

1527
01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:42,840
Speaker 2: You know.

1528
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 7: I think they need a little help round there around

1529
01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 7: the two guard because they can't do it by theirselves.

1530
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 6: And and if Shaquille O'Neil breaks or no the goal,

1531
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 6: we're both be out of a job. A. You gotta

1532
01:17:58,680 --> 01:17:59,639
Speaker 6: give him that laft.

1533
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 3: DC sha Shack loves Shack loves white guy voice. It's

1534
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:04,439
Speaker 3: one of his favorite.

1535
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I watched you on BA. I don't John Wildfield,

1536
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 6: we don't work for the m T N T.

1537
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:18,240
Speaker 7: Yeah edit jump ed jump CUK man, I'll be watching

1538
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:19,760
Speaker 7: sack right on t N t out.

1539
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 3: Man, you're the man brother. Congrats on everything, man.

1540
01:18:27,160 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 6: Man, I appreciate it.

1541
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 7: Man, I appreciate y'all what y'all doing, because you know

1542
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,880
Speaker 7: it brings light to people like doctor J.

1543
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 2: Man.

1544
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, and bringing your friend for

1545
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 6: a second, bring it out of Jersey.

1546
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:41,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, Adam, I want you to meet bow Wow's father,

1547
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 5: Big bow Wow. Come on in, Big bow Wow. Ladies

1548
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 5: and gentlemen say hello to Big bow Wow.

1549
01:18:50,479 --> 01:18:50,679
Speaker 3: Wow.

1550
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:57,400
Speaker 5: Hey, hey, I got a question that term lad boy me.

1551
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 7: No, the termlad about to say, come on now now

1552
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 7: you're too strong to have your collar all the way,

1553
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,040
Speaker 7: but up, let one of them go.

1554
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 6: Come on now, you ain't on TNT that you at

1555
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 6: your house.

1556
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 7: Matter of fact, go gett another shirt, your clothes, getting

1557
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 7: another shirt.

1558
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 6: I ain't been keeping going. You my friend, so I

1559
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 6: I'm talking to you like you're my friend.

1560
01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 5: No, but that term uglad boy did you come up

1561
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 5: with that?

1562
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 6: That's just that's just like a hood saying. It's like

1563
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,120
Speaker 6: one of those uh what you call them like you know, uh,

1564
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 6: uh you know what you call it?

1565
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:32,519
Speaker 2: Like?

1566
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:32,720
Speaker 1: Uh?

1567
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 6: Like, what's up, my boy? It's a term of endearment.

1568
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,400
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying. Glass kid, You know what

1569
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,800
Speaker 7: I'm saying. It means a lot, however you want. If

1570
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 7: you could be dead serious, or you could be.

1571
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 6: Playing hey a little glad you're like, yeah, because you're

1572
01:19:45,960 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 6: an ugly or you shall be playing a little you

1573
01:19:50,160 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. It just word of endearment, Like

1574
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 6: that shirt I'm your friend. That's ugly.

1575
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 5: Love y'all.

1576
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 6: No, can you be trying to be so calm? Like

1577
01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 6: he ain't got all this damn money. You know you

1578
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:11,280
Speaker 6: got a shirt that say I got money? That ain't it?

1579
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 3: That's as nice as Paulo got you.

1580
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 5: You don't like my flower shirt? Up?

1581
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 3: You don't like it?

1582
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 6: You doing it for the podcast? Man, you've been a change.

1583
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:29,640
Speaker 6: Why you're supposed to want that on the damn shout.

1584
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:32,720
Speaker 2: O?

1585
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 6: Great, don't get another shirt. Let me do this again, yill.

1586
01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:10,680
Speaker 3: Hold on.

1587
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 6: His wife is not your his wife? You asked him

1588
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 6: about his people.