1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for 4 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: much for that. It's time for the Break on Dallas 6 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and 7 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Thursday, October thirteenth, 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number fifty. Welcome to 9 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: another edition of the Break Lifts, WBC Morgan Studios. At 10 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: the start, we are presented our middle like the only 11 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,000 Speaker 1: beer of the Dallas Cowboys. And today we talked about 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: the Philadelphia defense versus the Cowboys offense. We got lots 13 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 1: of questions. There are lots of things to discuss there. 14 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: We might even get some questions that were left over 15 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: from Tuesday about the offense. But let's start first with 16 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: getting some some updates on some injuries. Nick, what do 17 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: we hear this morning? I guess on Dak and where 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: he is from his practicesterday. I think it went well 19 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: as what McCarthy said, but I mean Dak said it 20 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,480 Speaker 1: yesterday in the locker room as well that you know 21 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: they were it was. It was a good throwing session. 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: And you know, he's playing with the media. I mean, 23 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: he knows when the media is out there for fifteen minutes, 24 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball left handed and doing all that 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. But he's doing things when they leave, 26 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: he's he's ramping it up a little bit more. And 27 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: he said that they were able to cut it loose 28 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: a little bit, put some zip on the ball. He says, 29 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna throw if I don't have it. You know, 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: if I don't have the zip, I'm not gonna throw it. 31 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: So it sounds like it's ramping up that way. McCarthy said, 32 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: it went well, he'll do some more of that. Again. 33 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: They're not going to rule him out. I don't think 34 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: unless I heard something different, I don't think they're gonna 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: rule them out until they have to. But he you know, 36 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: he's not playing this week. Yeah, he threw everything but 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: the nine, which is the vertical route, and then the post, 38 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: so everything else basically, Yeah, they took the deep shots 39 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: out of the game and so they threw underneath intermediate 40 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: stuff like that is how it all it all worked out. 41 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: I was just laughing because it's like you can you 42 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: can argue they took that out a long time ago, 43 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: like that's not really, that's not but you know what, 44 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: is that true? Though? Nick? You said that yesterday, and 45 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: I think about a number of times I've seen him 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: connect downfield, particularly Michael Gallop, I don't. I don't think 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: it's fair say it's not a part of his game. 48 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: It's a part of his game. You ask me what 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: what Cooper Rush does better than than Dak I think 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: it would be deep ball. I think I think that, yes, 51 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: more than we saw it with that, I don't think 52 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: so okay. I don't think so either. I don't think 53 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: so okay, not as often because I just think that 54 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,679 Speaker 1: the way they've been playing with Cooper Rush, it's a 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 1: little bit more conservative in that aspect where they're not 56 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: giving him those many opportunities, but that it's a conservative throw. Honestly, 57 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: it'd be told it's a conservative throw for the way 58 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush throws it. I think he throws the ball 59 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: more down the field even when he plays in the 60 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: preseason games, because that's what we have to go off of. 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: I think he takes I think he feels more comfortable 62 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: throwing it express it to the right, his right side. 63 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: I think he feels comfortable doing that more than some 64 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 1: of the other guys, I think than Dak does. Yeah, 65 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: I think it's it's fair to maybe say that's a 66 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: comfortable throw for him. I don't know that we've seen 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: evidence that he connects on that anymore frequently than Dak does. 68 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: That's my point. So if you look at the results, 69 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is necessarily thing where you 70 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: say Cooper Rush is a better deep ball thrower from 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: the standpoint of results than Dak. Well. The thing is, though, 72 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: with Cooper Rush, they will get max protection throw that 73 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: ball down the field. So that's the thing I think, 74 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: if you want to do it, They've done it occasionally 75 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: with Dak, but not to the point with Cooper Rush. 76 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has done it far more. And I think 77 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: all of it has to do with Michael Gallup the 78 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: game the other day, they got in a situation where 79 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: they were getting past interference called too. I think I 80 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: think you know, that's these coaches have got to figure out, 81 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: and a lot of them do when you have games 82 00:03:57,560 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: where officials are going to call things certain ways. The 83 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: game last year it was a great example of like, 84 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: you know, you know, if I'm just throwing the deep 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: ball because the fistals are going to call pass interference 86 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: every time. And you got a situation the other day 87 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: where where where Gallup was able to get down the 88 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: field and it was either going to be pass interference 89 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 1: on the commander's corner or it was going to be 90 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: a catch. So I think that, to me, there needs 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: to be that plan in the game. It's like, hey, 92 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 1: let's take a deep shot here, let's see what you know. 93 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: I think I think Dat needs more of that, you know, 94 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: I think that to me that that's I see it 95 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:34,960 Speaker 1: as part of his game, but I think it's something 96 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 1: that they could probably take a little bit better advantage of. 97 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: You know, if you go, if you're one of those 98 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: numbers nerds. I think he was fifth in the league 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: last year in deep ball throws, you know, So to me, 100 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: take some shots, go for it, you know, if you 101 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: want to do that, But they they need to do 102 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: it more. That's that's I you know, I like what 103 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: Nick saying about, you know, about the situation about how 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: he throws it, but take more shots at it, you know, 105 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: don't just you know, think everything underneath and intermediate with him. 106 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: I am dying to know after this game, win or lose, 107 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: how the whole narrative starts changing on whether how soon 108 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: you got Dick back in or how a little bit 109 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: more longer it takes to heal that win or lose though, 110 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not win or lose. You don't think, no, no, 111 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 1: there's two completely different narratives based off win or lose. 112 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just want to see 113 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: it what happens. Yeah, yeah, because did you hear did 114 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: you hear it? Troy? He throws wood right on the 115 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: fire this morning? Like cowboys going win in Philly. I 116 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: think you gotta start talking about whether you really want 117 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: to bring Deak. But it's just this thing has taken 118 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: on a whole life of its own in my opinion 119 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: that I just don't I don't see, I don't get it. 120 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you know that's you know, Jerry 121 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Jones came out several weeks ago and says he wants 122 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 1: a quarterback controversy. So you go out win Philadelphia, you 123 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: got your quarterback controversy. I know, I know one thing 124 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 1: doing radio every day, I want five three that that 125 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: there are people that absolutely want to see this thing 126 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: play out with Cooper Rush. And there's the people on 127 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: the Dack end of it. They're terrified that he's gonna 128 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: win this game. You know that there it's that divided 129 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: on these on these folks, and you know it's you know, 130 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: they've made the decision as a front office, and you know, 131 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: as critical as I've been at the front office, you know, 132 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: they have done a lot of things the right way. 133 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: And you know, if by if they bring Dak Prescott back, 134 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not betting against him now because everything they 135 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: seem to do has come to up asis for them. 136 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's it's worked out all Hey, don't worry 137 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: about the receivers, don't worry about the offensive line, don't 138 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: worry about this, don't worry about that. You know, all 139 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: those questions that we had, you know, it seems like 140 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: that their decisions are actually been the right decisions. You know, 141 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: so I'm you know, it's not me to sit there 142 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: and say, you know that it would be you know, 143 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: I think that they I think that they could do 144 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: more with Dak at quarterback. But you need to see 145 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: Dak do more and win games. Yeah, that's that's where 146 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 1: this argument is. You mentioned the receivers, and that led 147 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 1: me to think, do you guys feel that because we 148 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: always talk about how Dak needs help around him most 149 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: quarterbacks do. Okay, we get that point, but he does 150 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: need that kind of help. We know the improvements that 151 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: the old line has had and they're doing good, but 152 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 1: as far as the receivers and the rest of the 153 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: group you can throw in their running backs as well, 154 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: do you feel that everybody else is doing enough to 155 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: what Dak would need? And this is a weird question 156 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: because you're seeing it with what they're giving Cooper Rush, 157 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: But when you get daged back in, are everybody else 158 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: doing enough to cater to him? Well? Right now, my opinion, 159 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: catering to him, or catering to any quarterback on this 160 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: team is about the defense. It's not about the receivers, 161 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: it's not about the tight ends, it's not about the 162 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: offensive line. It is, in my opinion, about this defense. 163 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: That's the other reason why I have a hard time 164 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 1: with the whole Cooper Rush conversation is because he is 165 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: playing with right now, in my opinion, one of the best, 166 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: if not the best defenses in the National Football League, 167 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: and doing that will forwards you a lot of letl 168 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: if you have a team where you're like punning is 169 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: a good thing, you know you're doing it like that 170 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: means that the defense is what you you rely on. 171 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: So for me, I don't think it's about the it's 172 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: not about the receivers, it's not about all the other stuff. 173 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,239 Speaker 1: It's about the defense. As long as the defense keeps playing, 174 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: you can keep winning. Is it gonna be clear this week? 175 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna ask. Is it gonna is 176 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: this the weekend where all of a sudden that you know, 177 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: ten offensive points are not going to be enough? Yeah? Probably, 178 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean probably, I mean, yeah, it seems that way. 179 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: We'll see what's gonna bend. I mean, we'll see if 180 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense is really really that good in that dynamic. 181 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: But we're gonna get into it as well. Like the 182 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 1: Eagles are winning with defense as well. I mean the 183 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: Eagles deep, yes they are there, but look at their 184 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: offensive numbers. Their offensive numbers up there as well, right, 185 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: but they're winning with defense though. Defense. I mean, look 186 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: at what look at what they're I mean, they that 187 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: they did not in the Detroit game, but all the 188 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: other games they won. Their defense is playing lights out. 189 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying this isn't You can't just make the 190 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: claim that the Cowboys have the best defense on the 191 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: field in this game. I mean, I think the Eagles 192 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: or defense is just is just as good. Their point 193 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: their stats are good, and the reason why they're five 194 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 1: and ohs because their offense is dynamic as well. It's 195 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: kind of what you hope Dallas's offense would be with 196 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: a really good defense, that the ability to score some 197 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: points and then you know, that's that's that that I 198 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: just go back to win. And I was working in 199 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: Green Bay way way back in the day when you 200 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: played the Cowboys the Super Bowl Cowboys, they would get 201 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: a lead on you and then the defense would choke 202 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: you out. You know. That's that's where my experience was. Yeah, 203 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 1: that's the way it always was. It was they found 204 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: a way to use the weapons. They would get twenty 205 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: four points and that was enough. Yeah, it would always 206 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: that sounds like that's how Philly is doing it. I 207 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: think is is their offense good enough to get those 208 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: points and then the defense is just like, you're not 209 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: coming back where I think that that this is going 210 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: to end, you know, eventually, for for Cooper Rush and 211 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: the Cowboys, is this winning streak is the red zone offense. 212 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: And yes, there's things that I think that that Cooper 213 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: does just as well, if not somewhat better than Dak. 214 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: But there are some things that Dak obviously does better. 215 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: And that to me is pocket presence and awareness and 216 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: red zone and the ability to RPOs and ability to 217 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: run in touchdowns. I don't see that happening from the 218 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: six yard line of Cooper Rush running it in. Dat 219 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: can do that. And I think red zone struggles are 220 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: going to be an issue if you can't run the 221 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: ball and have a quarterback because Jalen Hurts certainly does 222 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: and I'm not saying Dak would be Hurts, but Dad 223 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: can do more of that, and I think when you 224 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: get down there, it's gonna be harder to score. I 225 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: think obviously DAK would give you a better red zone 226 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: ability to score. Okay, you have better memories. I think 227 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember or if my memory is playing 228 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: games with me. But I feel like they have been okay, 229 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: like they're bettering the red zone, but their problem is 230 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: getting to the red zone, Like they can never get 231 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: to that point. But when they get there, they seem 232 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: to be to be fairly okay. Which here which well, 233 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,200 Speaker 1: I will say this get talking about what what Zeke 234 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: said yesterday. He pointed out that he thought the biggest 235 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: problem for this offense is third downs. Yeah, and they 236 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: look at it right now. They're twenty ninth in the 237 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: league and converting third downs that is a significant problem 238 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: for them. And you want to talk about sustaining drives 239 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,439 Speaker 1: to get to the red zone, that's part of the problem. 240 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: They're not sustaining drives enough to get those convert those 241 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,719 Speaker 1: third downs. But once they rarely make it there, they 242 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 1: seem to I mean, from what I remember, they managed 243 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 1: to get in whether it's running the ball or going no, no, 244 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you're right, But it's with Zeke's right. They're they're they're 245 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: they're bad on third downs. And that's the thing about 246 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: it that you know you had two thirds, actually had 247 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: three third downs the other day that you could have 248 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: converted on all three, you know they but you had 249 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: the penalty on the third and one run when Hendershott 250 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: got called for holding. At the end of the game, 251 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: you had to drop by Ceedee Lamb and you had 252 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: to drop by by our other guy, Uh, why don't 253 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: everyone's the Gallup Michael Gallup. Yeah, guy just was to 254 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: me names in my head. But Gallup, you know his 255 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: drop and ceedee Lambs drop and then the holding point. 256 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: That was three third down plays that should have been converted, 257 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, those were all third and then that keeps 258 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: drives going. And so now your percentage was there. I 259 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: think they're like at thirty one percent right now, you know. 260 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: So we're on the other end of it, though. The 261 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: Eagles on their offense are like, you know, ten to 262 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: twelve percentage points better than that. Yeah, so you know, 263 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: but their Eagles defense though, has been a little bit 264 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: of a struggle on third down for them too. So well, 265 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: you know, something something might have to give in this 266 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: football game. Yeah, they're they're twenty fifth right now in 267 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: the league and third downs that they're giving up. So 268 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: they're giving up a lot of third downs. Cowboys aren't 269 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: getting third downs. Something will, something has to somebody's gonna 270 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: get better this game. I'll go back to the red 271 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: zone here. The the Cowboys rank thirty first in the 272 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: NFL and trips to the red eleven. Only Houston has 273 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: has less, with ten on the flip side. Oh well, 274 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,040 Speaker 1: and of that eleven there, they've scored six times, so touchdown, 275 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: so that's a forty five percent. You know that that 276 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: ranks them twenty six. But trips to the red zone 277 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: only eleven, which is the problem getting there. Yeah, now 278 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: they have you know, a couple of long runs and 279 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: stuff like that, but for the most part, you know 280 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: that that's been a challenge. But on the flip side, 281 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: they've only allowed teams in their nine times, which is 282 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: by far the best in the in the league. So 283 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: um and and so their defense is really really good 284 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 1: in the red zone. In their offense not so much. 285 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 1: Once again, you're winning with defense. This is this offense 286 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: is actually if this offence is playing but no, but 287 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: but I think you know what the point is. The 288 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: point is if you take this offense run by Cooper 289 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Rush and you put it with the defense from last year, 290 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are probably a one or two win team 291 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: right now. That's probably where they with you. And and 292 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: so that's again that's what And I keep making a 293 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: point because I'm making the point that let's let's hold 294 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: off on trying to say that that you need to 295 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: just keep Cooper Rush in there, because there is gonna 296 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: come a game because it happens every year. Well, even 297 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: if you have a great defense, they're gonna have a 298 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: rough matchup or they're gonna have a rough game and 299 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna need the offensive step up. And I'm with you. 300 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: I'm ready to see Dak. I'm ready to see him 301 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: back in the lineup. But again, I'm gonna stick with it. 302 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: I mean, lose a game, Cooper Rush, I mean, quit 303 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: being a stubborn lose the game, you know, quit being 304 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: selfish and keep winning these games. I mean that it's 305 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: his faulty one. Is he winning these games though, Like 306 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: that's the that's the problem. He's not winning these games, 307 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: you know. But we set here for years and I 308 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: had Dave and you talking about Dak's four hundred yard 309 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: games with an l you know, like all these stats 310 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: he's putting down and all that. So I've been saying 311 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: it's a tough balance because you know, we've seen these 312 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: fourth quarter magical games that didn't end up well. But 313 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: it's like, with what kind of defense right, right, right, 314 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: and what's right He's never played with this kind of defense, 315 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: it will be great. But again, it's just the superstition 316 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: in me. I'm not pulling a I wouldn't, but I'm 317 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: not the the same. I mean, how much would you 318 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: say the defense improved from week one versus the rest 319 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,359 Speaker 1: of it? You know, he had this defense in week one? Yeah, 320 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: but but they and they, I mean they, hell, they're 321 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: not as good against goats. They're not they're I mean, 322 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: they're not a good against Brady. And let's also be clear, 323 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: is that has that been the best offense this teams 324 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: played this year? I would say so. So maybe what 325 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: we find out is when you're playing right, So maybe 326 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: when you're playing that caliber team, maybe your offense is 327 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: really have to score more points. And by the way 328 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: you're playing, maybe that may have been the best defense 329 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: that you played this year. I think the point, I 330 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: think the point you made yesterday and I actually stole 331 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: it and used it on the radio yesterday was the 332 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: one about where you put all the rankings for the 333 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: offensive lines that they played. You know, when you start 334 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,400 Speaker 1: saying rams thirty one, yeah, they're commanders thirty. You know, 335 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: you start going through and like, because I asked my 336 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: I mean they were My guys were like, you gotta 337 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: run the ball, you gotta you gotta you know, you 338 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: gotta and I go, you think this team's pass rush 339 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: is any good? And they're like, oh god, it's the 340 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: best in the league. Okay, here, let me run off 341 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: who all they're playing against. And then and then Gavin 342 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: immediately went to break. You know, we went right, you know, 343 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: we're not talking about you know, it's because you know, 344 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: the argument was. The argument was about you know, how 345 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: they went in these games, they do in this, you 346 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: know on that and I'm like, okay, and I go, 347 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: and I gave you credit I actually does is Derek 348 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: Eagleton brought this up on the on the show that 349 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: I was with, and so yeah, I mean it's sometimes, 350 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: but it's it's it's a it's not a small sample size. 351 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean there's things that you're looking at right now 352 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: and you're going like, okay, is this what we're going 353 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: to see the rest of the year. Remember last year, 354 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 1: eight weeks in the season, we were all talking about 355 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Moore being the next head coat somewhere. We were 356 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: all worried about losing Kellen Moore because how good the 357 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: offense was. And then eight weeks later we were all 358 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of Kellen Moore. You know that. 359 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,040 Speaker 1: You just you just hope this isn't the flip of 360 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: like all of a sudden, Oh, the Philadelphia, Philadelphia showed 361 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: you how to attack the Dallas defense. You know that 362 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: kind of thing I got. If that happens, I don't 363 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,480 Speaker 1: know what do you do? You have? Were I forgot? 364 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: But where does Pheley rank? As far as these are 365 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: sacking we're talking about sacks, they're eighteenth, They're eighteenth their 366 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: offensive life, so it's not great, but they're they're banging. 367 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: And they played some teams the Cowboys where they've taken 368 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: advantage of offensive lines. They've done and they and that's 369 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: something that in the past they never did. They never 370 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: took advantage of a compromised offense. And let's also be clear, 371 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,919 Speaker 1: I think I personally think the model of how you 372 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: beat this defense is already out there. Team just haven't 373 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,880 Speaker 1: been able to get them in that situation enough. They 374 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: are not a good run defense. They are towards the 375 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: bottom part of league when it comes to run defense. 376 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: You get them in a situation where you get an 377 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: elite on them and now you can effectively run the 378 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 1: ball and you don't have to panic and get away 379 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: from your run that's a way to get at this defense, 380 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: I think. And this is why this game I think 381 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: is pivotal because it is a team that has that balance. 382 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 1: Like you were saying, this is a really good defense. 383 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: It's a good offense too. They can score maybe more 384 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 1: points than what you've seen so far and be able 385 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: to stick with their run games. So you're saying, to 386 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: take the ball if you win the toss. No, no, 387 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: I'm deferring because we were trying to yesterday, trying to 388 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 1: figure out though, and ask you guys this question. We 389 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 1: were trying to figure out if you could trade for something. 390 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't don't tell me a player, just tell me 391 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: a position. Tell me a position right now that you 392 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:38,479 Speaker 1: would trade for to help this team going forward. Because 393 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: because my guys all were saying defensive tackle, and I said, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, 394 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: it's not the inside runs, it's the perimeter stuff. And 395 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: so I went into this long you know how I talk, 396 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: you know, I'm like waving my hands like Brad Sham talking, 397 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, and that kind of thing. And so I'm 398 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: trying to say to wait a minute, you know, how 399 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,959 Speaker 1: about the safety, the forced corner, how about the defensive end. 400 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:05,119 Speaker 1: How about that's not players, that's just how you play. 401 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: But there's like, no, if you get this, you go 402 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: trade for the guy a Carolina, the big defensive tackle, 403 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: you know. And I'm like, it's not that, it's the edges, 404 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: it's the outside that runs. The one thing the note 405 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: actually was just looking to stat before we came in. 406 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: Cowboys are ranked twenty first in the league and giving 407 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: up inside runs four point four yards per carry. They 408 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: are ranked twentieth giving up five point one yards per 409 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: carry on outside runs. So they have been equally bad 410 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: on both. Okay, they're not great, but here's it seems 411 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: like to me they get killed on the perimeter more 412 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 1: than they get killed in right now, And I agree 413 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: with you. I agree with you, but I don't think 414 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't think it's necessarily about personnel. I think these 415 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: are scheme induced. Like what I mean by that is, 416 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: I think you got a very aggressive defense. They are 417 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 1: going at the quarterback, and I think they get gashed sometimes. 418 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: I think that if because there are times in games 419 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: when opponents want to run the ball and Cowboys are 420 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: having are not having it. And I think it's because 421 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: they basically are in no situations of the game, like, 422 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: all right, let's lock down on the run. We're not 423 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: rushing the passer in the same way we are locking 424 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: down the run. So I think they have the personnel 425 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: if you gave me that choice of what player I want. 426 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: It ain't even on the defensive side of the ball. 427 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: I'm good with my personnel there. Keep what we got 428 00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 1: figure out, and I trust dan Quinn to figure it out. 429 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: I think there are a number of places on the 430 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,040 Speaker 1: offense where you say, well, we could be a little 431 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: better here, and maybe that gives us a little more 432 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take our first break and we 433 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: come back. 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Brian, 482 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: what's the best thing they do. I think it's it 483 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: starts with really the front seven. You know, when you 484 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: look at them, they've got a really nice rotation, much 485 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: like the Cowboys do with their guys. Josh Sweats playing well, 486 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, we all we know him from days gone by. 487 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: You know, Hargrave at the defensive tackle, him and Jordan 488 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 1: Davis had been kind of rotating their Brandon Graham is 489 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: every time I want to throw dirt on Brandon Graham, 490 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: he comes back with a soccer three, you know, that 491 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: kind of thing. But yeah, they've done a really nice 492 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: job and Hassan Reddick as well. So it's really about 493 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: up front. It's about the pressure that they're able to get. 494 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: They do a good job of their physical you know, 495 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 1: handling blocks, you know, getting off blocks, getting up the field, 496 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 1: being disruptive. I think that their secondary is the one 497 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: that you could kind of I know it's James Bradbury 498 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: and Darius Slay and guys like that. I think this. 499 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: I think Gardner Johnson their nickel or really their safety. 500 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,479 Speaker 1: I think that's a little bit of a liability for 501 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: them as a tackler. So to me, when they play 502 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: zone coverage, they get in trouble. There's a lot of 503 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 1: routes that you see in front and Arizona, I thought 504 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,399 Speaker 1: did a really nice job of sitting down in zones 505 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: and attack in that and they were Kyler Murray was 506 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: able to find, you know, find his guy. So when 507 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:07,120 Speaker 1: you had to take advantage of that, they're gonna play 508 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: his own coverage on you. This Uh, this is a 509 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: team also too that likes to hold in the secondary. 510 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: And this week, you know, when you look at the officials, uh, 511 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: you know it's it's gonna be it's gonna be whether 512 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: you get those holding calls in this game. And because 513 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: they're a very grabby group and you know that could 514 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: kind of swing a game one way or another. So 515 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: it's John Hussey as the official in this game. And 516 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: Hussey's crew calls the second most UH pass interference penalties 517 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: in the league. And so but the you know that 518 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 1: that's something to keep an eye on right there. Because 519 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: Sleigh likes to hold, Bradberry likes to hold, and when 520 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: they get the opportunity. Maddox has been injured for them, 521 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 1: so he hasn't been a factor in this thing. As 522 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 1: like the nickel, But I think it's going back to it, Derek. Guys, 523 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: it starts really upfront with these guys. How many how 524 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: many games or did you see other games than Arizona? 525 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: Because I wonder is when you when you face Kyler Murray, 526 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: you're worried about that kind of dynamic, do you play 527 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: it differently than they're not gonna be worried as much 528 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: about Cooper Rush. Do you think they play the zone 529 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: as much in other teams or maybe just that one. 530 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,639 Speaker 1: I just think that there was a there was a 531 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: good balance. It's a great question. I think there was 532 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good balance of that. When you see they 533 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: they they get in man they like to play man 534 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 1: coverage when they get into their nickel stuff on a 535 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: third down, and then they'll play the zone stuff seems 536 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 1: to be I think they're a little scared about the 537 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: speed on the outside or lack of when they get guys. 538 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, they don't want to just get up on 539 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: somebody and get run by. So I think it's more 540 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: of a it's more of a uh, it's more of 541 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: a trying like Okay, we're gonna come after you, we're 542 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,960 Speaker 1: gonna blitch you, We're gonna rush you, We're gonna play 543 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: man there. But I saw a lot more zone than 544 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: I did, you know, with the with the man demand 545 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: stuff on the games I did. I watched three three 546 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: them play three games, and you know they were you 547 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: know they were, they were. It just seemed like to 548 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,199 Speaker 1: me when they're when they were given up plays, it 549 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: was because of the zone coverage stuff. Going back to 550 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: the stat which I had seen earlier to about third 551 00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: downs and the comparison between what they give up and 552 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: what the Cowboys currently do. Do you think Brian that 553 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: for this game, because there are times where I think, Okay, 554 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 1: you trust your defense so much, and I get it, 555 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: you have to punt at times, but why not take 556 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: that extra like try, like go for it? So do 557 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: you think maybe this is a time where we'll see 558 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: them kind of going for it a little more than 559 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: what they're used to, just to give it a try 560 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: and see if they are successful. I think you have 561 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: two coaches, and I would call McCarthy pretty aggressive with 562 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,080 Speaker 1: what he does too, when he goes back to when 563 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 1: you go back to the look at what he's done 564 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: going for it on his own end of the field. 565 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, I think and I know that 566 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,119 Speaker 1: Siriani their coaches, he's a go for it guy from 567 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 1: the jump. So yeah, it's just gonna be one of 568 00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: those games where I think both teams have the ability, 569 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: and especially if like say that, when I watched Philadelphia 570 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: on tape, it was it just seemed like that they're 571 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: always going for it on fourth down, no matter where 572 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,239 Speaker 1: they are on the field. Not as bad as what 573 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: the Chargers do. Chargers are on their own eighteen yard 574 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: line and they go for it on fourth down because 575 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 1: that's what they do. But this guy is very, very 576 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,919 Speaker 1: aggressive that way. And then McCarthy has proven though the 577 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: last couple of times that they've been out those fourth 578 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 1: downs that they've had, whether on his end or the 579 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: other end, that he's more willing to go for it. 580 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: So I think this is a game that you got 581 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: to go out there and you have to be aggressive end, 582 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, people are probably feeling like that 583 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are not going to win this game with 584 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,720 Speaker 1: Cooper Rush at quarterback, you know, they're gonna and he 585 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: might have to take some chances to get some points too. 586 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,399 Speaker 1: You know, three points kicking field goals might not be 587 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,639 Speaker 1: enough in this game. You know, having to find a 588 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: way to get touchdowns. That's probably the path that he 589 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,880 Speaker 1: that he's gonna need to take. You look at Philadelphia's 590 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 1: rush defense, and it's been it's been a weird mix. 591 00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,360 Speaker 1: There's some games are given up a lot to some games. 592 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: They've been very bad games Alliance. They're Yeah, they're averaging 593 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: one hundred and three yards per game. Yeah, that they 594 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: allow against the Lions, they gave up one hundred and 595 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: eighty one yards on ground, which is huge, one to 596 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: twenty four against Arizona. What did Arizona and Detroit do 597 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,880 Speaker 1: specifically that made them more successful against the running than 598 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 1: some of the other opponents. Yeah, I think which the 599 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 1: thing that when Detroit just took the ball right at 600 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: them too, and you know they were able to they 601 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: know it was one of those things when you play 602 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: the first game as the first game of the year, 603 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 1: so you always worry about conditioning and things like that. 604 00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to when it comes to 605 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: how your team's gonna play, where they ready, were they 606 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: prepared to have the rotations and stuff like that. I 607 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: think Detroit was just more physical than and this is 608 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: this could be a very physical front. But what they're 609 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 1: also in a situation and right now is where you 610 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: know they they're linebackers. When you get past that first level, 611 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: it's see some problems with their linebackers too. You know, 612 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: whether it was t J. Edwards, you know that he's 613 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: as a MIC linebacker. They really Hassan Reddicks listened as 614 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: a SAM linebacker, but he's more of a rusher, so 615 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: people that we're able to kind of break that first, 616 00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 1: that first wave and then get there's you know, the 617 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: stuff with this is a very aggressive defense. So you 618 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: get guys that you take them one way and then 619 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: bring the ball back the other with the polls and 620 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: the traps and things like that. So that's kind of 621 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: what the Detroit. I thought Detroit was just more physical 622 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 1: running the football. Arizona again, the stuff with the quarterback 623 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: makes a lot of difference for them too. Yeah, it's 624 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: interesting you mentioned Hassan Reddick. He leads their team with 625 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: four and a half sacks. He's a linebacker, which signifies 626 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: me they must be blitzing quite a bit. That being said, 627 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: how much do they blitz and where does he typically 628 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: line up if there is a beat on that on 629 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: where I noticed he plays on your he plays on 630 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: a lot of it on the on the offensive right side. Okay, 631 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 1: so he's gonna be on the defensive left is what's 632 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: gonna happen. Josh Sweat generally plays the other side, uh, 633 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: you know with with that rush. So if you're gonna 634 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: if you're gonna see Reddick, he's gonna moving around part I. 635 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: Every time I looked at it, I'd say, Okay, where's 636 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: he going to be? It was off that right tackle 637 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: spot is where he's going to come from. How comfortably 638 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: feel with that? I mean still over there? They give 639 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: him a little help, I would assume, But how do 640 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: you feel? How comfortable do you guys feel with that? 641 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: And you've talked Nick a lot about Tony Pollard and 642 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: the reason why Tony Pollard doesn't get on the feel 643 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: as much as everybody wants to see him is because 644 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: of blitz pick up. Yeah, I thought he missed one 645 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: the other day with Ramsey coming off the edge. You know, 646 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: I don't think he saw it right away. He kind 647 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: of went inside of the guard and I didn't. I 648 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: just didn't think he saw it at all. And now 649 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: that would have been a quite a collision if he did, 650 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: because I mean Ramsey's screaming off the edge there. But 651 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 1: that's what he's supposed to do. I mean, you know, 652 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: he's a willing blocker. He just you just gotta be 653 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: alert and you also have to be big enough to 654 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: do it. That's one of his issues. Um, but you 655 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: know the awareness though, if you mentioned that, that's the thing. 656 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 1: I think the biggest thing with with Pollard is his 657 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: willingness to do it. I think don't think it's a problem. 658 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 1: The finish is not always great. It's how are you 659 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,200 Speaker 1: reading it? How are you seeing it? Are you are 660 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: You're you know, most guys are taught to read inside 661 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 1: out and you know, and sometimes he gets just so 662 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 1: inside focused that you miss that that slot blitz is 663 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: what happened last week on that play. Yeah, yeah, real 664 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: quick before we go to break. I did have this 665 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: other question. You look at their past defense, and although 666 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: you talked about the front seven, yeah, they've been very 667 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: Stingty only given up one hundred and eighty nine yards 668 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: per game passing. That is a I mean, that's a 669 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: really really great number. My question would be, is that 670 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 1: more a reflection of their past rush? I think it's rush. 671 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the rush. I think the front the 672 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 1: front clearly affects the way that people throw the ball. 673 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: I do feel like, you know, this team is seeing 674 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 1: James Bradbury play when he's with the Giants. You know, 675 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: you've seen Darius Slay play, you know, with when he 676 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: spent at Philadelphia. But I could say that you know this, 677 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: this this Gardner Johnson that they traded for from the 678 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: from New Orleans. I don't think he's been as good. 679 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: And so to me, you know, these guys hold. I 680 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 1: mentioned that because of the flat, they hold a lot. 681 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: They're in position because they're holding. And I'll be interested 682 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,520 Speaker 1: to see if the officials, like I say, call this 683 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: in a way that they allow them to get away 684 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: with it. If they do allow them to get away 685 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: with it, then yeah, that's where you that's where you 686 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: limit the yards. But to me, there's a lot of 687 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: times where this group could have been called for. I 688 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: was watching the Arizona game and just the way Darius 689 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: Slay inside breaking rods, grabbing guy's arms, pulling the guy's arm, 690 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: you know, downline you're and it's not a call, and 691 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: you're like going, oh, okay, well if that's if. But 692 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: to their credit, they haven't been called for it. We'll 693 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: see if this crew does call it though this week. 694 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: Let's add to our final break when we come back. 695 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: We have some questions from some fans about this upcoming matchup. 696 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense. Yeah, Cowboys offense versus the Eagles defense. To 697 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: do it when we come right back, Das Cowboys dot 698 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: Com are you The season is finally here for months 699 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 1: we've been gearing up to win. Now it's time for 700 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: the team that performs on any field. 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Back to the Break, 734 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,240 Speaker 1: NFL Plus gives you live local and primetime regular season 735 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: and postseason games on your phone or tablet, game replays 736 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: and more. Go to Plus dot NFL dot com. Start 737 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,959 Speaker 1: your free trial of NFL Plus today. Welcome back, final 738 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,320 Speaker 1: segment of The Break live from the s WBC Mortgage 739 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: studios at the start. This segment brought to you by 740 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: blockchain dot com. And let's get into some questions. Thanks Chris. 741 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: Let's get into some questions that we have from some fans. 742 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: They were sent earlier this week, but I save someone 743 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: because we didn't get to them, and they are specific 744 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys offense. First question from Blue Star Gang says, 745 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: have we seen enough from Noah Brown to where Washington 746 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: is now expendable or as Tolbert underwhelmed to the point 747 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: you have to keep Washington as your fourth receiver. So 748 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: there's two questions here. I kind of really forgot about 749 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: Tolbert again. You're done with Tolbert? No, no, no, no, no, 750 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm not done with him. He just got here, hold on, 751 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: all right, but no, it's just again, we were waiting 752 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: for him to get back from the injury and all that. 753 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: Then he got back, he didn't do much, and then 754 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: it just easily became like, I don't remember what has 755 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,399 Speaker 1: he done that. I genuinely do not remember what he's 756 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: done other than that first week when he got back 757 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: in Yeah, I think that his confidence really got crushed 758 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: in Oxnard, you know, and they asked him to do 759 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: a lot of things, and it just didn't appear that 760 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: he was very capable of doing it. I really believed 761 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: when we were doing the draft show that he was 762 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: NFL ready. When you watched him play, he looked very confident, 763 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: he looked poised, you know, he made big plays you know, 764 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 1: in those games. And he got here and he looks 765 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: like a completely different player. And so now when you 766 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 1: do that, you go back and you say, Okay, what 767 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: did I see? Did I miss something with this player? 768 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: I think that I think that he just got overwhelmed 769 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,839 Speaker 1: and I don't think he ever recovered from that, and 770 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: so being inactive and all that, I you know, it's 771 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: sometimes it's it's one of those things that you have 772 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: to go through. But he just doesn't look like that. 773 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,439 Speaker 1: They number one, They don't have confidence in him right now. 774 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 1: They probably wouldn't you know, if you asked him with 775 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: a microphone in their face, they would say, no, no, 776 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: we're happy with everything. But they're probably thinking, Okay, how 777 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: can we build this kid because he's he's not the 778 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: same player he was at South Alabama? Coming from South Alabama? 779 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 1: I mean, should we be a little more patient? Like, yeah, well, 780 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: should they have to be more patient? Well? His I 781 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,680 Speaker 1: got his stats right here. His freshman year he had 782 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: played five games, he caught five balls for sixty yards. Okay, 783 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: his uh, his junior year he caught sixty four passes 784 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: four thousand yards and eight touchdowns. And his senior year 785 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: twelve I mean eighty two catches fourteen hundred yards. Well, 786 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I know, I get your point. Yeah, I 787 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: mean right, you have to and and and I will 788 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,760 Speaker 1: always be a little bit more patient every time because 789 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: of A Miles Austin. They're not all gonna be that way. 790 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes they're Jamaica director is just gonna be Jamaica Director. 791 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: I mean that's just the way it is, right, But 792 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: but you have to be patient with not only receivers, 793 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: but small school receivers like that. You said, you know, 794 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: he got here and he looked like a different player, 795 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: and he probably did. He also saw a different player 796 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: on the other side of him, and so you know, 797 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:01,600 Speaker 1: I think you have to be patient. But yeah, I 798 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 1: mean I would have thought, you know, but then again, 799 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: he said, he's a few inches away from a different 800 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,319 Speaker 1: mentality all around. If he gets his right foot down 801 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: and he scores that touchdown against the Chargers and then 802 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, look at him, you know, in the 803 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 1: back of the end zone. Nice play. But so he 804 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, he was really close to making some plays, 805 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,160 Speaker 1: and so I think it gives you some confidence of saying, 806 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: all right, don't need him as much this year. But 807 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: I bet you next year we'll hear McCarthy saying, one 808 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: guy I really like from last year is Jalon Tolber. 809 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,840 Speaker 1: He was in the workout, he's been at the backyard 810 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 1: back there, he's you know, so we'll see. Yeah, that's 811 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 1: the thing too. And I think you make a great 812 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: point about that. The thing that maybe five to eight 813 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: years ago, when you say that you kind of let 814 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 1: go all right, makes sense. The way that these receivers 815 00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: are coming out of college that is true, and then 816 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden jumping in and it doesn't matter. 817 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 1: I know, the Packers drafting kid from North Dakota State 818 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: and he's a dropping balls. He was a second round pick. 819 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of kids, and not every 820 00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 1: kid is like Chase Sir Jeffers Center like that. But 821 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: we're starting to see a lot more that these college 822 00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: kids are coming in and stepping in and immediately starting 823 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,839 Speaker 1: to play. Yeah, And that's the thing that's just a 824 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: little disheartening as an evaluator that you kind of felt like, 825 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: this is one of those kids, this is one of 826 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,319 Speaker 1: those kids that could come in and play. And you're right, 827 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a lot different playing you know, 828 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: Appalachian State than it is playing the Los Angeles Rams. 829 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,759 Speaker 1: You know, you know, but you know who messes it 830 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: up for everyone? It's always one guy that messes it 831 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: up because there's probably a thought process of these small 832 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: school receivers and all that. And then Cooper Cup comes 833 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,719 Speaker 1: in and you are all over Cooper Cup in the 834 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,480 Speaker 1: draft and he was he was as good if not 835 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: wait was he his first year? I don't remember. I 836 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,440 Speaker 1: think he was. He was immediately Brian was upset, but 837 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: that they didn't. I mean he would he was all over. 838 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 1: Yeah I knew, I knew from draft. But but I 839 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: mean he obviously good enough to say hmm uhh yeah 840 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: see the thing yea, But yeah, that's the thing that 841 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,440 Speaker 1: just because what we've seen in this day and age 842 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: with like say five to eight years ago, it man, 843 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: these you know, first round receiver the numbers were forty 844 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: eight catches, eight hundred and sixty four yards, four touchdowns. 845 00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: Now it's you know, now it's one hundred and ten catches, 846 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,440 Speaker 1: and you know, it's these crazy numbers, and you're going, Okay, 847 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,399 Speaker 1: that's I guess that's what's happening in our league now. Yeah, 848 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,719 Speaker 1: all right, real quick, we didn't answer the question. I 849 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:22,239 Speaker 1: was gonna say, no, that's where I was going. I 850 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: was gonna say, give me up date on Washington. What 851 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,759 Speaker 1: are we hearing about him? Um? I think the Cowboys 852 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: are in no hurry there and I don't know where 853 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: he is as far as health wise, I was told 854 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: it could still be a couple more weeks. I don't 855 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 1: know if it's because that's what the injury is or 856 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: they just don't really need it, because initially it was 857 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: going to be around this time. It would have been 858 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: around this time. Knock on wood. One of these receivers 859 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: comes out with the risk injury. It's like, you know, 860 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: Washington's ready to play like Washington week, just like you know, 861 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: so we'll see. I bet you he's a little bit 862 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: further along. But you know that's what happens with the rules. 863 00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,719 Speaker 1: The rules are. You just want to injury reserve and 864 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: we'll start his twenty one day window when we want 865 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 1: to start it. Right, all the receiver are doing things, 866 00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: and you know they're all playing, whether it's you know, 867 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 1: they're playing special teams, even Semi Phihoko, guys like that. 868 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: Everybody did stressing Washington doesn't do that for you. True. 869 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:13,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to the next question. Anthony 870 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: Villeneuava says, what's one area you think the passing game 871 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: can get better with just one area? If you had 872 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: to pinpoint one area we want the passing game to 873 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,279 Speaker 1: be better, what would you want to I wish they 874 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: threw better screens. I wish they threw better screens, whether 875 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: it's tight end screens. I mean, I'm watching everybody in 876 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: the league the last couple of weeks I've watched guys 877 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: like Tyler Higbee and I'm watching you know, Dallas god 878 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,720 Speaker 1: Or and these guys, and I'm watching teams leak backs 879 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: out and all of a sudden, it's just a devastating play. 880 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,440 Speaker 1: This team can't get out of its own way when 881 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,560 Speaker 1: it comes to throwing a screen. They can't get the 882 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 1: guys out about the offensive line not being mobile enough 883 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,000 Speaker 1: to get out there, or I don't know, if it's coronation. 884 00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got guys that can actually move. They do. 885 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,919 Speaker 1: They've got guys that are athletic enough to get out 886 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 1: in space and make things happen. They don't get any 887 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 1: blocks on the outside. You know, that gets all buddled 888 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,720 Speaker 1: up at times, but you know, or the run people. 889 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: It's just it's so frustrating to watch teams around the 890 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 1: league be able to use and this one, this team 891 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,479 Speaker 1: you're about to play, they will screen you to death. 892 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: And because they know it's an easy throw for their quarterback. 893 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: That's the kinds of things that could help Cooper rush. 894 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: You know, just a little simple screen that could go 895 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: for twenty six yards. That's a big help my thing, 896 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 1: And I've said it for fifteen years. I've asked to 897 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,440 Speaker 1: get the player on the roster, and now he's on 898 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,920 Speaker 1: the roster and he's not any particle player. I just 899 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 1: I just think you're you're using a You're wasting a 900 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: dynamic player in turpid. I don't you don't have to 901 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: give him the football, you don't. I mean, maybe once 902 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,520 Speaker 1: in a while, but use him on a screen on 903 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: a reverse even if he doesn't get it. Just give 904 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,000 Speaker 1: it to him one time around the corner. See what 905 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: happens if he gets five or six yards. But you 906 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: could fake it to him three more times the rest 907 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 1: of the game. And I just think they're not using that. 908 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 1: You don't trust them as a as a blocker, whether 909 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 1: that's fine, but he can have a role that can 910 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: scare the crap out of some teams on the back end. 911 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: And I'm kind of surprised they haven't done more of 912 00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: that with a backup quarterback in games or you can't 913 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,000 Speaker 1: really get your offense going. You would think in those 914 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 1: kind of situations, that's where you think you see teams 915 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: doing more wildcat or reverses or things that just kind 916 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,759 Speaker 1: of force a defense to respect different things, because you 917 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: know you need to give your quarterback a little help 918 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: and basically the only hope they're given him. As you say, 919 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 1: Brian's really giving max protect They'll Max protecting let him 920 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: throw a ball, but that's all they're doing. Other than that, 921 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: they're just like, hey, we're okay if we do three 922 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 1: and out, like we're just gonna pump the ball and 923 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 1: trust our defense. You know. Yeah, the times and I'm 924 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,640 Speaker 1: surprised by that too. The times that he gets he 925 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,040 Speaker 1: does get on the field, they don't do anything with him. 926 00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: It's like, okay, why is he even under Yeah, and 927 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: even then there are times he doesn't do anything and 928 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, then what are you trying to prove here? 929 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,880 Speaker 1: Or like put on tape that's gonna scare anybody because 930 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,240 Speaker 1: you're not. Um, I'm on that with Brian with the screen. 931 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: I feel like a couple of years ago they were 932 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,080 Speaker 1: pretty good at that. There really sixteen how many times 933 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 1: like the Zeke then Zeke would they faked the block 934 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: and he just kind of slip out and they got 935 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 1: Lineman in front, you know, whether that was Doug Free 936 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: or Tyrann Smith whoever, or Frederick you know, get somebody. 937 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 1: They it's just like it's it's so disjointed and bumping 938 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: into each other and no, no, you know, no sell 939 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: at all. So yeah, I mean to me that that's 940 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,040 Speaker 1: the simple thing because throwing the ball down the field 941 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: and all that, yeah, that can add prove. But man, 942 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,959 Speaker 1: just give me something, give me a simple little throw 943 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: from my quarterback that just devastates defense is when it works. 944 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: And speaking of selling, I think one of the things 945 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:40,480 Speaker 1: is the fake. Before I would be fool every time 946 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: and that God Burd's eye view up here and I 947 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: would have like, oh, oh, the balls over here. I 948 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,680 Speaker 1: don't think they're good at that anymore, and they just 949 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: and that's some small part, but I think it does 950 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 1: play a big role in the game if they need 951 00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: to improve that aspect of things, just faking it better. Yeah, 952 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:56,919 Speaker 1: all right, appreciate you guys. Jones back tomorrow. We're gonna 953 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: wrap this thing up for you. That's it. We're gonna 954 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: wrap this thing up for you and let you guys 955 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,560 Speaker 1: know what thing's gonna happen this Sunday night, Cowboys versus Eagles. 956 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: So then for Nick Eaman, Brian brought us Amber Garcia. 957 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,520 Speaker 1: I am Derek Eagles and this has been the break 958 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,920 Speaker 1: live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been 959 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas 960 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys Football Club.