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Speaker 1: Welcome backing Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: a MoMA for and ran for governor, and just aga

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Speaker 1: and lots of different stories.

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Speaker 2: Clay and Buck podcast Network on the one hand, trying

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Speaker 2: to stop a war with Iran, on the other hand

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Speaker 2: telling us the day to day on the David Rutherford

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Speaker 2: Show of How to Be a Man, how to Be

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Speaker 1: So we cover a lot of ground, no doubt, absolute

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Speaker 1: wide range. And I covered a lot of ground this

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Speaker 1: morning for breakfast in downtown Franklin, Tennessee, which is a

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Speaker 1: hallmark town if there's ever been a town. And I

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Speaker 1: was with Secretary of the Interior, Doug Bergham, formerly the

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Speaker 1: governor of North Dakota, and you've got governor secretary. You've

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Speaker 1: got so many different titles now. But we talked about

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Speaker 1: a wide range of issues. But I want to start

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Speaker 1: with this because I remember the first time we had

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Speaker 1: you on was right after you injured yourself playing basketball

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Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty four presidential election cycle. You've now

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Speaker 1: recovered from that, but you told me that back in

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety eight you got to participate in Michael Jordan's

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Speaker 1: basketball camp. That had to be an unbelievable opportunity. I

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Speaker 1: want our audience to hear what that might have been like.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, Clay, a great tale breakfast with

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Speaker 3: you Pucketts in your hometown, fantastic revival any of the

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Speaker 3: great breakfast places in North Dakota. But yeah, what in

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Speaker 3: a life experience to go to the Michael Jordan basketball camp.

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Speaker 3: People think, oh, you're going to meet Michael Jordan. Part

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Speaker 3: over age thirty five. And you come and they have

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Speaker 3: eight teams of ten, sixteen of the top college coaches.

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Speaker 3: My coaches were John Thompson, and Dean Smith, my buddy

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Speaker 3: He had Roy Williams and Loud Olsen. So we're playing

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Speaker 3: for national championship coaches. I mean there was one instance

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Speaker 3: We're in a Cloak game and I got Dean Smith

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Speaker 3: little upset. He's like, what do you think you're coach now?

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Speaker 3: And I said no. He said, do you like getting

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Speaker 3: We're down three in a close game, and it's the

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Speaker 3: to play in a team that beat Coach K. But

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Speaker 3: what an experience.

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Speaker 1: Well, Doug, it's buck.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get to have breakfast with you, but maybe

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Speaker 2: you'll come down to mind be beached some time. We

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Speaker 2: to ask you about your portfolio as Interior Secretary, which

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Speaker 2: as some of the other major agencies at the federal government,

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Speaker 2: but it is a vast, a vast entity, vast organization

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Speaker 2: people think of national parks, but you've also got mining rights.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got a whole range of things, and

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Speaker 2: we don't have time to go over all of it, obviously.

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Speaker 2: I want you to tell me what are your top

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Speaker 2: Tyler Hassen. Funny story, Tyler and I went to school

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Speaker 1: But he's a doge guy.

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Speaker 2: So there's a cleaning up an efficiency part of this,

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Speaker 3: Well as simple as this, I mean, we're supporting President

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Speaker 3: we need to be in a position with energy dominance

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Speaker 3: because energy is not just an industry. Energy is the

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Speaker 3: we bring the price of everything down. We bring prosperity

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Speaker 3: at home. And then you say, well, what does Interior

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Speaker 3: the world. And we all hear about every election cycle. Oh,

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Speaker 3: So one of the things that we're working on is

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Speaker 3: That's what they were put away for these public lands.

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Secretary of the Interior Doug Bergham. One

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Speaker 1: these climate change zelots have bought into a process by

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Speaker 1: It's dirtier in other words, and worse for the environment.

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Speaker 1: So they think they are being morally superior, but they're

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Speaker 1: power to authoritarians who bear us ill will. Can you

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Speaker 1: break that down a little bit more, because I think

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Speaker 1: it's so important for people to understand, and as Secretary

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Speaker 3: It was a fantastic summary. And again this yeah, like

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Speaker 3: to diminish demand. They were just shifting supply. And when

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Speaker 3: insist that every electron of electricity, that every ounce of

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Speaker 3: you get these bizarre things where, hey, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: the absurdities and essentially the lie around somehow stopping energy

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Speaker 3: It's all false. And then it raises the price. I mean,

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Speaker 3: It's what's going to help, you know, people pay their bills,

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Speaker 2: We're speaking to Interior Secretary Doug Bergham and mister Secretary.

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Speaker 2: Rare earth minerals getting a lot of attention these days,

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Speaker 2: do we get more rare earth minerals here domestic sources

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Speaker 3: Well, because, as I said earlier, the massive amounts of

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Speaker 3: electronic and defense sectors. China has been well here at

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Speaker 3: home with Obama Biden declaring a war on mining in

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Speaker 2: less than women. But the you re g it a joke,

435
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Speaker 2: but remember the NPR guys got tested and they were

436
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Speaker 2: basically off the charts. The men at NPR had testosterone

437
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 2: levels that were almost they had the testosterol level non existent.

438
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Speaker 2: NPR NPR guys in their thirties had testosterol levels of

439
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,199
Speaker 2: like twelve year old girls. It was crazy, It was

440
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Speaker 2: really remarkable. I mean they I don't even know what

441
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,639
Speaker 2: to say other than it was you know, these guys

442
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,200
Speaker 2: had like one of them was in the one hundreds,

443
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 2: which is actually a clinically, i mean, medically deficient level

444
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: like that that needs it's a medical condition. If you're

445
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 2: a guy and you have a very low level of testosterone,

446
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: you need to get that addressed. It affects you in

447
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 2: very real ways. You're but people are asking why this

448
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 2: is like our kid, you just bring this up. Now,

449
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: there's a lot of people say like microplastics, and you

450
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 2: get into some of this stuff where it's just like

451
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: everything everything is making unhealthy every Oh, it's the water

452
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 2: you're drinking, it's the area, everything's everything.

453
00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 1: No, no, no, start with the basics. We are too fat,

454
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:55,959
Speaker 1: we are too sedentary, we are eating too many processed.

455
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Speaker 2: Foods, and that for men is a huge problem for

456
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Speaker 2: test stosterone and for fertility and for creating enough sperm.

457
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,200
Speaker 2: But this has become a societal issue now. I mean,

458
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 2: this is actually it's not just something that you know,

459
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Speaker 2: you read about in Men's Health magazine.

460
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Speaker 1: We have people. It affects your psychology. If you're a

461
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,200
Speaker 1: man with deficient testosterone, it affects your ability to obviously

462
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Speaker 1: have children when you look at the sperm count.

463
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Speaker 2: And this needs to be addressed. An RFK Junior wants

464
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: to make this a thing. But you know, everybody, it's amazing.

465
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Speaker 2: I even talk to friends of mine play guys in

466
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Speaker 2: their thirty you know, late thirties, early forties, like, well,

467
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Speaker 2: what is your testosterone level?

468
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Speaker 1: They have no idea. Yeah, most people have no idea.

469
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Speaker 1: Most people. I mean, I think this is one of

470
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Speaker 1: those things where men in general don't talk very much

471
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Speaker 1: about health, and so we're like totally imbeciles on much

472
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Speaker 1: of male health related issues, whereas I think in general

473
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Speaker 1: women are more aware. This is Look, this is why

474
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Speaker 1: men one of many reasons why men live about five

475
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Speaker 1: years shorter than women. We have severe health related issues

476
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: and we don't go to doctors as much and we

477
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: don't get things fixed. But yeah, I think I was

478
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 1: actually having this conversation with my wife the other day.

479
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: It feels to me often Buck and this is me

480
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Speaker 1: kind of getting on a soapbox here for a minute,

481
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Speaker 1: But it feels like we spend lots of time on

482
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Speaker 1: things that aren't very dangerous, and very little time on

483
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Speaker 1: things that are incredibly dangerous. Let me give you an example.

484
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Speaker 1: I had a friend recently who just dropped dead at

485
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Speaker 1: forty five years old, and it turns out that he

486
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Speaker 1: had I think a major heart related condition based on

487
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Speaker 1: what I have been told, and it seems to me

488
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Speaker 1: and some of you out there may be brilliant enough

489
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Speaker 1: to do this. Heart disease is I believe I'm correct,

490
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Speaker 1: Buck the number one killer of me in by far right,

491
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Speaker 1: and it kills a lot of women. Cheers number men.

492
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Speaker 2: There's number two, heart disease, number one.

493
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Speaker 1: Heart disease number one. But how often do you hear

494
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: of someone who otherwise appears to be healthy and then

495
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: they have a massive heart attack and they just die.

496
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: Shouldn't we have instead of everybody having to get a

497
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Speaker 1: colon examination, which everybody does, and I'm not necessarily knocking

498
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Speaker 1: that from a health perspective, when you get to be

499
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Speaker 1: like forty five years old, shouldn't you be having a

500
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:33,160
Speaker 1: really detailed electro cardiogram of your heart to find out

501
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: whether you have stoppages and blockages that could lead to

502
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 1: a catastrophic heart attack because we know that this is

503
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Speaker 1: killing whatever it is, millions of people probably a year

504
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 1: on average, hundreds of thousands for sure, And yet most

505
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 1: men out there listening to us right now, including me,

506
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:58,919
Speaker 1: have no idea how healthy our hearts are. Shouldn't we

507
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: be working to try to have regular Just hey, if

508
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Speaker 1: I can get in an MRI and if I think

509
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: I've got to torn acl, if I can go get

510
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: in the MRI machine and they can look at my knee,

511
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Speaker 1: why would we not have heart health as a standard

512
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Speaker 1: part of American healthcare to try to avoid having anywhere

513
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: near as many heart attacks? Am I crazy on this?

514
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: In other words, let's address things that are actually creating

515
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: huge issues and put our resources there instead of I mean,

516
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what we're still spending on COVID, but

517
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: we spent way more on COVID then I bet we

518
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 1: have ever on American heart disease. And heart disease is

519
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: going to continue to kill us for decades this way.

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Speaker 1: And I'm saying it as a sort of male health thing.

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Speaker 1: But when I watched that Jesse Waters clip that you

522
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Speaker 1: shared last night, there's just so much that we don't

523
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: know the answer to that It feels like it's very

524
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: basic that we should be addressing purely from a science

525
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 1: perspective to find out why it's happening, because we know

526
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: testosterone is the engine that drives men. If we have

527
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 1: low testosterone levels, men are not healthy and that's happening,

528
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 1: and it's like nobody's asking questions about it, right Well,

529
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: like I said, it's part of the overall health decline

530
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: that has gone on. But you would think that as

531
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Speaker 1: we become more technologically advanced, which we are, and as

532
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: we have more medical interventions and medical tools possible, which

533
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: we have, that people would that you would see these

534
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: increased health outcomes. The problems is we now, you know,

535
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Speaker 1: for basically all of human history, Clay, we were worried

536
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 1: about we're worried about scarcity, and there were diseases of scarcity.

537
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, not enough vitamin C, you get scurvy, not

538
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: enough food, you starve to death, not enough you know,

539
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: you go down the list all these different things, you know,

540
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: not enough iron, or anemic, not enough. Now we have

541
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: diseases of over abundance. That's actually how successful our society, America,

542
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: specifically Western developed a world countries have become that you

543
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: can eat hyper delicious food all the time. You can

544
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: work without moving very much. I mean, you can earn

545
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: a living with that. As I sit here.

546
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Speaker 2: This is one of the reason why Clay and I

547
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 2: get up during our radio breaks and walk around a

548
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,520
Speaker 2: little bit. It's really it's important because we do three

549
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: hours and then we do podcasts and other things. I

550
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 2: used to I have some days club and I was

551
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 2: in the radio studio. I would be I wouldn't really

552
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: move for like six hours.

553
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is terrible for.

554
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,880
Speaker 2: It's like being on a plane for six hours is

555
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: terrible for you. You don't want to do that every day.

556
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: Doing it every day is really bad for you. But

557
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 2: I feel like people they're so you know, you had

558
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: this whole like fat positivity thing that was coming on

559
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: coming along for a while, which is I think is

560
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: dying down now.

561
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, you just want to be accountable.

562
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 2: You want to be you know, I think about this,

563
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 2: People like why Buck, why do you want to get healthy?

564
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 2: One because some of you told me I look like

565
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: missus doubtfire and you were kind of telling you the

566
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Speaker 2: bus and that.

567
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Speaker 1: Hurt, but it was important. Two two, which was funny

568
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: but mean. Funny but mean too.

569
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Speaker 2: I have a son coming along, and I want to

570
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Speaker 2: be able to take I sawn out and be the

571
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 2: athletic guy that I had been my whole life and

572
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 2: not you know, not be getting injured and not be

573
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 2: getting slowed down. It's not about being perfect. It's not

574
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: about all these people. Don't even get me started on

575
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 2: all the people you see on Instagram and everything else.

576
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 2: If they're holding themselves up as a model of fitness,

577
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: the chance as a man or a woman that they're

578
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: taking things they're not telling you about is like ninety

579
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 2: five percent, just so you know, to include steroids or

580
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 2: exogronous testosterone that they're not telling you about. But they

581
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: just want you to believe that they have some program

582
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: it's going to fix everything for you. It's about being

583
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: your best, healthiest, strongest self, which also means the most

584
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: testosterone you can have at your age as a guy

585
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: as a guy, and the most you know, hormonal balance

586
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: you could achieve as a man or a woman so

587
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: that you have optimal health. And RFK is right on

588
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: the money with this stuff. To your point, obesity used

589
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 2: to be a sign of extreme wealth. Now it's actually

590
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: a sign by and large of poverty, which is interesting

591
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: that shift, right, used to be the royals who would

592
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: have enough food to eat when everybody else was starving.

593
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 2: Now eating unhealthy and putting on weight as oftentimes a sign.

594
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: Of lack of wealth. And on your walking thing as

595
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: we get ready for break here, I have thrown the

596
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: iHeart tech team into absolute fear on a level that

597
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I've ever seen before. Because I said,

598
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: I don't in a new house. I don't want to

599
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: have a walking you know, stand up desk, right, some

600
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: people write books, they stand up. They want to be

601
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: up more. I said, you know this, I want to

602
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 1: have a treadmill so that I can do this show

603
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: while walking for all three hours. And they are just

604
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: the tech on. This has thrown them into an absolute

605
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: like whirlwind. But to your point, we sit in a

606
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: chair for three hours. I would prefer just to be

607
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 1: slowly walking for three hours while we do the show.

608
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how the tech's gonna work, but right

609
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: now the iHeart engineers are just terrified about what the

610
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: impact of this is gonna be.

611
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Speaker 2: So stay, We'll talk about this stuff all day, not

612
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: as somebody who's an expert, but as somebody who's been

613
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: through the war so to speak of health as an

614
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: expert recently, and I feel very passionately about it because

615
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: there's so much misinformation, bad information and stuff out there

616
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 2: and people created, there's all kinds of unrealistic expectations. Health

617
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: is in each of our individual hands, and I think

618
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 2: that RFK Junior can do a lot to help guide

619
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Speaker 2: to the degree it's possible, uh with whatever, you know,

620
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 2: whatever tools are at his disposal guide people toward optimizing

621
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Speaker 2: their health. And for the guys out there, yeah, you

622
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 2: don't want to have the testosterone level of your average

623
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Speaker 2: NPR host. You just don't. As a guy, it's not

624
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 2: I mean, it's truly not good for you. It's not

625
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: just that you're going to be a whimp who's going

626
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: to hide behind your wife in the bar when some

627
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: guy says something.

628
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Speaker 1: Mean, it's bad for your heart, health, it's bad for everything.

629
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Speaker 1: So this stuff is real, it's serious. You know, my

630
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: brother and I were at the range last weekend. I

631
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Speaker 1: was talking about, you know, Mace, I've got this great

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Speaker 1: You know ready told me I've been a member for

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Speaker 1: three years.

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Speaker 2: Buck, welcome to the party, Pal, I was like, WHOA, Okay,

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00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: Mason is very knowledgeable about firearms, and he's very knowledgeable,

639
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: but making sure that you're covered if you're going to

640
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 2: conceal kerry, if you're going to be a gun owner period.

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Speaker 2: him in eight hundred and sixty thousand other responsible gun

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644
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: do everything right and still end up charge, still end

645
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 2: up facing financial ruination because you lawfully defended yourself. That

646
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: is the reality. Self defense becomes your highest priority and

647
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: suddenly becomes very vitally important to you when it happens.

648
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 2: But you don't want to wait until it happens. You

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Speaker 2: want to be prepared, you want to be covered. Become

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Speaker 1: Today news and politics, but also a little comic relief.

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Speaker 1: Clay Travis at Buck Sexton. Find them on the free

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: into Clay and Buff. Let's take some calls here. Quick

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Speaker 1: Pete in South Dakota wants to talk to testosteron what's

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Speaker 1: going on? My friend?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just wanted to mention the reason that men's

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Speaker 5: are becoming increasingly fat. Men are fat is estrogen dominant,

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Speaker 5: and the estrogen outcompete the testosterone. Therefore, that's why men's

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Speaker 5: levels have gotten so low, is because we are becoming

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Speaker 2: That is true, that is biochemically accurate, and it's something

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Speaker 2: this last year Pete, thank you so much for calling in.

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Speaker 1: Where we go, Darryl and West Bend, Wisconsin. Real quick, y'all,

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Speaker 1: we got thirty seconds or so. Go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Well, you guys are talking about the screening for the heart.

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Speaker 5: There's a screening called the.

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Speaker 3: Calcium score screening. It's basically a heart scan and that

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Speaker 2: And I see so many hear about how many people

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Speaker 3: It's as simple. All they had to do was go

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Speaker 3: get a calcium scorre screening. You can go get one

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