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Speaker 2: one of my favorite players and he plays for a
Speaker 2: team that's not very good. The Cards locking up Trey McBride.
Speaker 2: He's a tight end. I don't think he scores many touchdowns,
Speaker 2: but it feels like he is. He's all over the place.
Speaker 2: He had one hundred and eleven catches and I just
Speaker 2: kept thinking, damn, this guy just he never stops, keeps
Speaker 2: coming backs. Now he's one of those. He's good, but
Speaker 2: not that famous kind of guy. And you know, look,
Speaker 2: the league is littered with that. But when I watch
Speaker 2: the Cardinals play, I can't help but I can't take
Speaker 2: my eyes off Trey mcbrin just because he's involved constantly.
Speaker 2: But he got locked up by the Cardinals, so uh great,
Speaker 2: good for him. I'd love to be talking about Jahn
Speaker 2: Morant hitting a game winner, but I can't because it's
Speaker 2: Joamorant and he did it again, hit the game winner
Speaker 2: against the heat. And look, you're in a playoff push
Speaker 2: jockeying for position here both teams are, and jahn Morant
Speaker 2: had the game winner. Now this is the next game.
Speaker 2: After he did the gun gesture to Buddy healed, he
Speaker 2: got a talking to by the commissioner and then he
Speaker 2: goes out, and then last night does another gun gesture
Speaker 2: as well. This is similar. I think to hey, you
Speaker 2: got pulled over by the police and they give you
Speaker 2: a warning, Hey you're speeding, don't speed all right, officer?
Speaker 2: And then what do you do? You peel out and
Speaker 2: then you get pulled over again, Like what are you doing?
Speaker 2: I just told you I'm going to give you a warning. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I know, John Moran is forcing the NBA. He's forcing
Speaker 2: Adam Silver and he's really he's embarrassing the NBA. Now
Speaker 2: in a vacuum. Okay, is this a big deal?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: You know this? We have gestures, we have you know,
Speaker 2: unfortunately we have too much of that and this is
Speaker 2: but you were warned. You've already been suspended a couple
Speaker 2: of times with a real gun. So when you have
Speaker 2: priors and you have a history, I just don't want
Speaker 2: this to be uh ten years from now, you go
Speaker 2: remember that guy with Memphis Johnmer? Yeah, Lee, what could
Speaker 2: have been? I've seen phenomenal talents in all sports and
Speaker 2: then you just can't They can't help themselves. And I
Speaker 2: don't know if a teammate says, come on, do they
Speaker 2: have the guy who says, come on, your coach just
Speaker 2: got fired. I don't know what role he played in that.
Speaker 2: But you're in a playoff push, you've been suspended, and
Speaker 2: you point the imaginary gun again, like.
Speaker 1: What are you doing?
Speaker 2: You came in as a feel good story, this guy
Speaker 2: out of nowhere? How did people miss on this guy
Speaker 2: at Murray's State? Well, maybe we're starting to realize maybe
Speaker 2: why they missed out. Maybe there was stuff that was
Speaker 2: leading up to this. Off the court, he gives you
Speaker 2: highlights every single night. He's fascinating, phenomenal, But he's flawed
Speaker 2: because I don't know if anybody is really taking ownership
Speaker 2: of him because he's not. Is his dad or his
Speaker 2: dad just a cheerleader here? I mean, these are serious
Speaker 2: things because now you're affecting a career. Now are you
Speaker 2: going to get suspended the rest of the regular season?
Speaker 2: Now you affect other people? If he wants to do
Speaker 2: something on Instagram live with a gun. Okay, you can
Speaker 2: be stupid, but this is where you're affecting an entire city,
Speaker 2: a coaching staff, and your teammates.
Speaker 4: Just play great basketball. You don't have to be a gangster.
Speaker 4: Just play be great. But you get to a certain
Speaker 4: point where he's over twenty five. It's like, man, when
Speaker 4: he was twenty two, he was Anthony Edwards. Well, now
Speaker 4: we're twenty five, and you wonder where are we going
Speaker 4: with this?
Speaker 2: He's I don't know. Are you all in? Do you
Speaker 2: want to be a basketball player? Do you want to
Speaker 2: be a star, Do you want to be a leader?
Speaker 2: Do you want to be the post or child? Do
Speaker 2: you want to be first or second team all envy
Speaker 2: and maybe you don't. I could only approach this. It's
Speaker 2: almost parental that I look at this like somebody you
Speaker 2: got to grab somebody and say and if this you know,
Speaker 2: the suspension didn't work where it cost him millions of
Speaker 2: dollars because you had a gun and then you had
Speaker 2: a gun again, and now you're doing the fake gun
Speaker 2: and then you do the fake gun again. At some
Speaker 2: point somebody's got to help him because he's not going
Speaker 2: to help himself. And maybe he doesn't know got a
Speaker 2: big contract here, but yeah, I saw it again last night,
Speaker 2: and we should be talking about what a clutch play.
Speaker 2: Got the ball, you went on the road and then
Speaker 2: he does that, All right, Well come up with a
Speaker 2: pole question here. It's one of those where now the
Speaker 2: commissioner is going to have to act, and I don't
Speaker 2: know what he'll do. I mean, I think what he
Speaker 2: should do is say, I can't put up with this,
Speaker 2: given how polarizing this issue is in America with guns,
Speaker 2: everything that's happened, we can't be cavalier about this. It
Speaker 2: can't be all fun in games and it's goofy and
Speaker 2: hey you know bang bang No, Nope, Nope, no, no.
Speaker 2: I would suspend him and then see how the team
Speaker 2: does the rest of the regular season. But that would
Speaker 2: be you know, I go to the old school. I
Speaker 2: go to the David Stern school, you know. And then
Speaker 2: John Moran says that he doesn't care what people saying
Speaker 2: anymore negative comments. Yeah, he says, I'm used to it
Speaker 2: pretty much a villain for two years now. Who who
Speaker 2: made you a villain? You made you a villain. You
Speaker 2: were a feel good story. People loved watching you play.
Speaker 2: You made you nobody else did. And as I said
Speaker 2: when I came on, I'd love to be talking about man,
Speaker 2: I love it. Somebody wants the ball in a clutch
Speaker 2: situation and they hit a big shot and you're navigating
Speaker 2: your playoff seating here, but instead we're not. That's unfortunate.
Speaker 2: And I know you have NBA players say, oh, you guys,
Speaker 2: just focus on the negative stuff. Help me not focus
Speaker 2: on the negative stuff. Okay, I'd be more than happy
Speaker 2: to talk about how great Joker was the other night
Speaker 2: and Steph Curry was the other night, which I did.
Speaker 2: But then you get these resets where you're like, come on,
Speaker 2: and especially a repeat offender. That's the disappointing part of
Speaker 2: all of this. Did you learn anything? Apparently it didn't.
Speaker 2: See what's pole question today?
Speaker 5: There's a fun one. It's not really a pole question,
Speaker 5: but it's a very fun fill in the blank if
Speaker 5: you will, from Paul Yer, which fan base has no
Speaker 5: sense of humor about itself or their team? We can
Speaker 5: populate that? Okay, is that I start with the Cowboys,
Speaker 5: then we might call this the Dallas Cowboys poll question.
Speaker 5: But teams that have no sense of humor about themselves?
Speaker 6: Yes, we're trying to fill out a pole question about
Speaker 6: teams and fan bases that have no sense of humor
Speaker 6: about themselves. So when we put forth that name of
Speaker 6: that fan base, they're not gonna have a sense of
Speaker 6: humor by being on the pole question.
Speaker 5: It's like a cycle inspired by the Buffalo Bills, obviously
Speaker 5: of Yankee Yankee fans. Yankees, sure we could do that.
Speaker 2: Who else doesn't have a say?
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess the Lakers too?
Speaker 2: Really? Okay?
Speaker 6: Who else fan bases that are defensive fan bases when
Speaker 6: you call them out, like, oh, I don't want to
Speaker 6: say their names. But there's some sec schools that if
Speaker 6: you critique them.
Speaker 2: Wait, wait, wait, you can't come up with a pole question.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't want to say it.
Speaker 6: Okay, schools like Alabama and Ohio State, if you jab
Speaker 6: them lightly they go scorched earth back on and other
Speaker 6: schools as well.
Speaker 2: But those are like peak, Yeah, what's gonna happen? You
Speaker 2: mentioned Ohio State? Yeah, are they sensitive? Yes?
Speaker 5: Yes, Alabama, yes they are actually yeah, you know now
Speaker 5: that I think about a Michigan fans take themselves very serious.
Speaker 2: Yes, well about the National championship and the cheating scandal.
Speaker 5: Oh sorry, Michigan men take themselves very A Michigan man
Speaker 5: rich in line for.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, we can do that.
Speaker 4: Yes, Patriots fans over the years with the deflate gates,
Speaker 4: and there's stealing signs and manipulative things.
Speaker 5: And there were Patriots were targeted with two of the
Speaker 5: most ridiculous.
Speaker 2: Wait now you're me and a Patriot fan being defensive.
Speaker 5: I mean they're obviously Roger Goodell. Both of those have
Speaker 5: been already debunked. The ideal gas law, and everybody knows
Speaker 5: the flight gates, everybody knows spiking you go here's stupid anyway,
Speaker 5: So I wouldn't put the play in the victims.
Speaker 2: Yep, Okay, I'd put the Patriots on there. Okay, I
Speaker 2: thinks you want to have that as the pull question.
Speaker 2: I thought we were going to maybe, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of go positive today it's a Friday. You thought that,
Speaker 2: I did. I did that quickly changed here.
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Speaker 2: Christopher mad Dog Russo, host of mad Dog Unleashed on
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Speaker 2: hosts of ESPN's First Take, Chris Good to talk to
Speaker 2: you again. Let me let me start with this, why
Speaker 2: is it when we compare generations. We do it with
Speaker 2: basketball freely, but we don't do it with football, and
Speaker 2: we don't do it with baseball like noe. But why
Speaker 2: do we pick and choose and say Steph Curry wouldn't
Speaker 2: be anything back in the eighties, and this guy couldn't play,
Speaker 2: and this guy could play. We don't do that with baseball,
Speaker 2: and we don't do that. Nobody's says Bart Starr, he
Speaker 2: couldn't play today, or you know, Bob Greasie couldn't play today.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's an excellent point, Danny. Good to be on
Speaker 8: as usual.
Speaker 9: I think you do a little bit with the quarterbacks
Speaker 9: because you do rank them, but nobody ranks Unite as lower.
Speaker 8: Than the others because he played a hundred years ago.
Speaker 8: So you're right. You do it with the NBA.
Speaker 9: You don't do it baseball because it's not a size
Speaker 9: thing and it's not physicality, and you know, you still
Speaker 9: got to hit it.
Speaker 8: It's a hand eye coordination. You got to hit the pitch.
Speaker 9: You know, Coofax do as fast as twoe hundred miles
Speaker 9: an hour, just like the guys are thrown today.
Speaker 3: So you're right.
Speaker 9: You know, I think there's a little I think there's
Speaker 9: a little baseball because of the field conditions, the you know,
Speaker 9: Pride to nineteen forty seven with no African Americans, So
Speaker 9: I think people.
Speaker 8: Do a little of that. But overall, the sport that
Speaker 8: does get looked at from.
Speaker 9: An ear to ear basis is definitely the NBA. You know,
Speaker 9: I think there's Celtic City thing, which I'm sure you've
Speaker 9: kept on. I think that contributes to it a little
Speaker 9: bit because you.
Speaker 8: Know it's coming out in March.
Speaker 9: The NBA season is winding down, so you're wrapped up
Speaker 9: in the Celtics. They're great again, So you're watching those
Speaker 9: nine episodes. So you think of Bird, you think of Parish,
Speaker 9: you think of Russell, and I think that contributes to
Speaker 9: it this period right.
Speaker 8: Now, this time of the year. But I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't have the answer for you.
Speaker 9: I mean maybe because the players are so identifiable, you
Speaker 9: see them, they feel like they're part of your family.
Speaker 9: The football players got the helmet on, so you don't
Speaker 9: have the same feel there. You don't quite understand, and
Speaker 9: it's harder to analyze the football player. Now, how do
Speaker 9: we know who the best offensive tackle is of all time?
Speaker 9: You know, you gotta look at film. Basketball's right in
Speaker 9: front of you. You can, you can analyze it. Maybe
Speaker 9: that's got something to do with it. But you're right,
Speaker 9: the NBA does do the year of stuff more than
Speaker 9: the other sports.
Speaker 2: Why is it we acknowledge Babe Ruth stats that they're believable,
Speaker 2: where we don't acknowledge Wilt Chamberlain's stats Because we'll go,
Speaker 2: nobody saw the one hundred point game and he averaged
Speaker 2: fifty you know, in a season almost he had fifty
Speaker 2: five rebounds in a game. We don't acknowledge the almost
Speaker 2: mythological like figure that Wilt was, but we do that
Speaker 2: with Babe Ruth.
Speaker 9: Yeah, maybe because there weren't a lot of great centers.
Speaker 9: You know, he was, he was outside of Russell. He
Speaker 9: was a freak. He was so good, so athletic. It
Speaker 9: sounds so crazy to average fifty points a game. You know, baseball,
Speaker 9: you know, there was a feel in baseball where you
Speaker 9: can identify a little bit more with the Garrick or
Speaker 9: the Ruth era than you can with the basketball. When
Speaker 9: you watch the highlights of Chamblain, you see the players
Speaker 9: he's playing against, it looks like he's he he dwarfs
Speaker 9: them physicality wise. You don't sense that necessarily with Ruth.
Speaker 9: You know, it's not like he's six to eight and
Speaker 9: everybody else's five eight. I mean, he's essentially the same,
Speaker 9: and he's heavy. He doesn't look like a great athlete,
Speaker 9: So I think from an athletic perspective, it looks a
Speaker 9: little bit more legitimate. And Ruth, you know, Ruth is
Speaker 9: just you know, I mean, the Alt Howard leagues, I
Speaker 9: mean Ruth, I mean, and plus the ballpark was so
Speaker 9: much bigger, and it was five hundred and fifteen feet
Speaker 9: to straight away center field in Detroit. Five hundred and
Speaker 9: fifteen feet. I mean that's a polo grounds. I mean
Speaker 9: it was miles out the center field. It's not the
Speaker 9: same with the but the Chamberlain thing. But you're right Chamberlain,
Speaker 9: I think, And maybe because he didn't win as much either,
Speaker 9: maybe that has something to do with it, the fact
Speaker 9: that Chamberlain only won the two titles, and you know,
Speaker 9: Ruth was in a million World Series, so maybe that's
Speaker 9: got a little something to do with it. We kind
Speaker 9: of look at Chamberlain's records as a little overrated because
Speaker 9: he wasn't able to do that in the postseason and
Speaker 9: he you know, he always lost, so maybe you think
Speaker 9: the regular season is a little.
Speaker 8: Mythical. Maybe that's got something to do with it. But
Speaker 8: you're right, world average fifty.
Speaker 9: Points a game in that sixty one sixty two season
Speaker 9: and that is an incredible and then they lost to
Speaker 9: the Celtics in Game seven, So what did it actually
Speaker 9: actually mean Ruth at all runs in the World Series.
Speaker 9: Maybe that's got something to do it. But that's a
Speaker 9: very good that's a very interesting question.
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't think it's a direct answer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but Oscar averaged a triple double that same year.
Speaker 2: I think that will average. I think you did okay,
Speaker 2: So that's not freakish, right, I mean people look at
Speaker 2: that and go, oh my gosh, look at what he did.
Speaker 2: Like we acknowledge the big O average a triple double,
Speaker 2: and then it didn't become a big deal until nobody
Speaker 2: had done it until Russell Westbrook, and because we like nice,
Speaker 2: neat packaged things where it's a triple double and then
Speaker 2: well you got it. And I think they were the
Speaker 2: sixth seed and Westbrook won an MVP based off getting
Speaker 2: triple doubles.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he had a forty they only won forty four
Speaker 8: to forty five games.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean maybe because you know, nobody's averaged fifty cents,
Speaker 9: maybe that's got a little something to do with it.
Speaker 9: Wilt's numbers are so astronomical that that's got something to
Speaker 9: do with it.
Speaker 8: But you know, wild had his warts too.
Speaker 9: I mean, you know there's many a game and a
Speaker 9: big spot you all know about taking himself out of
Speaker 9: Game seven in Russell's last year, which bothered Russell to
Speaker 9: no end. Looking around to see if Willis Reed was
Speaker 9: gonna play in Game seven at Madison Square Garden, why
Speaker 9: is he worrying about Willis Reed?
Speaker 8: For crying out loud?
Speaker 9: And then, as Halicheck used to the Halicheck once told
Speaker 9: me this that the year they lost to Philly, to
Speaker 9: lost to the Celtics when they were the defending Champson
Speaker 9: Russell's first year, second year as the head coach's first championship,
Speaker 9: he didn't take a shot in the fourth quarter because he.
Speaker 8: Had five fouls and he didn't want to foul out. Remember
Speaker 8: that in a game? What is he worrying about? Put
Speaker 8: the first round the official?
Speaker 9: So Wilt's got some He's got some peccadillos, there's no
Speaker 9: question about it. But you're right, we don't look at
Speaker 9: Oscar as freakish, and we do look at Wilt as freakish.
Speaker 8: And what Oscar did thirty one, eleven and eleven.
Speaker 9: Maybe it's because people had averaged thirty points and people
Speaker 9: had averaged ten rebounds, and people had averaged eleven assists,
Speaker 9: and so we didn't think it was that big a deal.
Speaker 9: And the fact he did it all in the same year,
Speaker 9: I kind of forgot about it. And because he get
Speaker 9: a little underrated, interesting, interesting questions.
Speaker 8: Danny.
Speaker 2: He's a Christopher mad Dog russo you'll listen to him
Speaker 2: on Mad Dog Unleashed and Serious x M eighty two,
Speaker 2: and also you can see him on First Take. What
Speaker 2: do you think the feeling of morale is like at
Speaker 2: the Home office with the commissioner today? With what happened
Speaker 2: with John Morant again last night?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean Morent just doesn't get it. I mean,
Speaker 8: he's gonna have to suspend him.
Speaker 9: I think Silver is at times very very soft, and
Speaker 9: I think in this particular situation, he's We'll see if
Speaker 9: he gave him a warning and then basically he did
Speaker 9: it the next day for crying out loud. You know,
Speaker 9: Moran doesn't get it. He's always getting himself in hot water.
Speaker 8: We all know.
Speaker 9: This is not the first time be easting to see
Speaker 9: what Silver does. Would he suspend him for some I mean,
Speaker 9: maybe he suspends him in the last six seven games
Speaker 9: of the regular season. Does he do that and leave
Speaker 9: him alone for the playoffs? It's probably what he do, right.
Speaker 9: I don't think he's suspend him for a playoff series. Yeah,
Speaker 9: probably suspended for the rest of the regular season. Twenty
Speaker 9: five games. Don't you think that's what to do it, Danny.
Speaker 2: I think because it's commissioners don't like when you embarrass
Speaker 2: them publicly. You know, Tom Brady lied to the commissioner. Therefore,
Speaker 2: it felt like he came down harder on Brady because
Speaker 2: he lied. This is a case where Jaw just did this.
Speaker 2: He just got verbally spanked by the commissioner, and then
Speaker 2: you do it again the next night, and you do
Speaker 2: it right in his face. I think he's basically calling
Speaker 2: the NBA's bluff to say.
Speaker 8: I think you're right.
Speaker 9: Let me see, and if Silver doesn't do anything, he's
Speaker 9: gonna get pounded. Yeah, he's going to have to do something.
Speaker 9: I think the question is what the discipline will be.
Speaker 9: I don't think he'll punish him in the postseason because
Speaker 9: I don't think he wants a tarnish.
Speaker 8: Memphisis chance to be.
Speaker 9: In the postseason and they will be in any way,
Speaker 9: it's a question of playing or what have you.
Speaker 8: I guess it is do you take six games away
Speaker 8: from him?
Speaker 3: Is that what you do at the end of the year.
Speaker 8: Is it a one game thing? What do you want
Speaker 8: to give him the next hea days off?
Speaker 3: What do you want to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I want to punish him in a sense
Speaker 2: that he's punishing his teammates, because if you just punish him,
Speaker 2: he'll be like, all right, whatever, I lost some money.
Speaker 2: You're going to suspend me for twenty five games to
Speaker 2: start the season. This is now going into the postseason.
Speaker 2: So now this affects your city, your coaching staff. You
Speaker 2: just got your head coach fired, and you're jockeying for position.
Speaker 2: This maybe if it affects his teammates, maybe then it
Speaker 2: resonates with him in a different way.
Speaker 8: Well, theoretically, it would affect his teammates because they're trying
Speaker 8: to stay out of the play in, and if they
Speaker 8: do suspend them, they'll probably be in the play in.
Speaker 8: Is that enough of it you from a punishment standpoint?
Speaker 8: Or play in and being the sixth seed is not
Speaker 8: a big deal.
Speaker 3: That's an interesting question.
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 9: They seem the player's team seem to care.
Speaker 8: About not having to play in that play in.
Speaker 9: Would that be enough in Silver's mind as a team
Speaker 9: punishment that because he loses the next six games, they're
Speaker 9: stuck playing Minnesota to see if they get into the
Speaker 9: main body of the postseason.
Speaker 8: I don't know, will he look at it that way?
Speaker 8: You tell me?
Speaker 2: Huh yeah. I don't know what's going to resonate with
Speaker 2: John Morant. But if you're the commissioner, you know, you
Speaker 2: may be at the end of your rope and just say, oh,
Speaker 2: you gotta do something. Yeah, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 8: He's not gonna suspend him for the whole playoffs.
Speaker 2: No, No, are the Dodgers great for baseball?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 9: They probably are. They're great right now middle of August,
Speaker 9: you know, when they're a twenty game lead and they're
Speaker 9: on the way to you know, they're on the way
Speaker 9: to one hundred and thirty and thirty two. Uh, you know,
Speaker 9: maybe then we'll get a little bored with it because
Speaker 9: there won't be any suspense in the divisional race. There
Speaker 9: won't be any suspense as far as the one seed
Speaker 9: is concerned, you don't think.
Speaker 2: And the Giants can hold on here and make this
Speaker 2: competitive in the West.
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe, and that the vision's pretty good, Yeah, diego.
Speaker 9: You know, Arizona's good, Padre the Giants, But I mean
Speaker 9: even the Padres are seven and all, and there still
Speaker 9: be hards.
Speaker 8: I mean, think about it that way.
Speaker 9: I mean, you know, the Dodgers will well, they're calm
Speaker 9: down a little bit, they have an injury, they're gonna
Speaker 9: get bored. I don't think the Dodgers will care one
Speaker 9: way or the other about winning one hundred and sixteen games.
Speaker 9: I mean, no, they might get it just because they're
Speaker 9: that good and it just happens to be. But if
Speaker 9: you think Dave Roberts, you know better than anybody, Danny,
Speaker 9: Dave Roberts with five games to go, needing two wins,
Speaker 9: He's not gonna sit there and let Blake Snow pitch
Speaker 9: eight innings so he wins. The breaks the regular season
Speaker 9: record for wins. They are not gonna care about that
Speaker 9: under any circumstances.
Speaker 8: And Seattle didn't win a World Series anyway.
Speaker 9: They lost the Yankees the year they won one sixteen,
Speaker 9: so and the Indians lost too, when they have won
Speaker 9: one hundred and eleven, they lost. So I don't think
Speaker 9: the Dodgers are gonna be that wrapped up and trying
Speaker 9: to break any regular season record. But they might be
Speaker 9: so dominant, and I mean, I mean their backup team
Speaker 9: is great. I mean, so as a result of that,
Speaker 9: their reserves of that great, they might win one hundred
Speaker 9: and twenty just winning one hundred and twenty Is it
Speaker 9: good or bad? That's probably good, right, everybody likes the villain.
Speaker 9: We'll keep an eye on him because the Dodgers have
Speaker 9: a lot of pressure on that. They go through that
Speaker 9: regular season one one hundred and twenty games and then they.
Speaker 8: Lose in the first round of the playoffs, it's gonna
Speaker 8: be this.
Speaker 9: They have to win the World Series, yes, and so
Speaker 9: osby result, they'd be a little bit of that that.
Speaker 8: We will keep an eye on.
Speaker 9: Whether they can sort of make good on a regular
Speaker 9: season season.
Speaker 8: We'll have to wait and see on that.
Speaker 2: The torpedo bats are the torpedo bats performance enhancing?
Speaker 8: Not to me?
Speaker 9: No, I mean, how come Hoose Travino can't hit. I mean,
Speaker 9: you know he hits two hundred. He used a torpedo
Speaker 9: bout last year. Judge doesn't use the torpedo bout and
Speaker 9: he's got a million own runs already.
Speaker 8: I don't think it's that big a deal that baseball.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna trust them when they say it's in the rules,
Speaker 9: so I know.
Speaker 8: It's the rage of the sport. The first week of
Speaker 8: the season. I think the biggest thing in the sport
Speaker 8: right now with the Braids.
Speaker 9: I mean, there's no team that's ever made you know,
Speaker 9: there's no team that's ever made the playoffs starting zero
Speaker 9: to seven, which I did not know, and throwing the
Speaker 9: idea they have so far out he's not going to
Speaker 9: be able to play. They gave him forty four million
Speaker 9: dollars based on last year. Maybe last year is a
Speaker 9: mirage because maybe he was juicing all year and that's
Speaker 9: why he had a great season for the Padres.
Speaker 8: So they get no recourse out of that. They don't
Speaker 8: have them for eighty five games.
Speaker 9: Who knows what, Kunya, and they're already owned seven in
Speaker 9: a good division.
Speaker 8: I think that is interesting.
Speaker 9: That to me is more interesting in the torpedo bats
Speaker 9: with the Dodgers is Atlanta went to the West Coast
Speaker 9: and to win a game. You know, they let Narris
Speaker 9: pitch in the third game of the second game of
Speaker 9: the year. He blew, a saved and a dfaate him
Speaker 9: two days later for coming out loud. So that to
Speaker 9: me is interesting, is what Atlanta has done in the sport.
Speaker 9: And then of course you got a good college basketball
Speaker 9: weekend this weekend too, so it's a good weekend.
Speaker 8: And the next week the Master have you.
Speaker 2: Made any money during March Madness.
Speaker 8: No, I've gotten killed.
Speaker 9: The two that were terrible, Danny John Arkansas, you saw
Speaker 9: it right, Yeah, I had Arkansas in the money line
Speaker 9: that blew a thirteen point lead. And then Michigan State
Speaker 9: and the old miskid threw the ball in the basket.
Speaker 9: It rimmed in in the past minus three and a
Speaker 9: half in seventy six seven.
Speaker 8: Hey, I've struggled. I'm gonna pass this weekend. I think
Speaker 8: Duke and Florida, though, will be there on Monday night.
Speaker 8: I think Duke and Florida. I think that'd be a
Speaker 8: great game. I think that'd be a great game.
Speaker 2: I would take the five and a half with Houston.
Speaker 2: You would, and I would. I'd take Auburn straight up.
Speaker 8: Oh you would?
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Well let's do the second one first.
Speaker 2: How come Houston's just gonna ugly it up, and I
Speaker 2: don't I don't think that you're going to see Cooper
Speaker 2: flag go off. That's a that's a that's a veteran team,
Speaker 2: veteran coach, and they they're going to keep it low,
Speaker 2: feels like, and and they're going to be physical that
Speaker 2: it'll be an ugly game esthetically.
Speaker 8: And lose sixty three sixty and you and you win
Speaker 8: your back.
Speaker 3: How about the Auburn game.
Speaker 2: I just think we kind of moved past Auburn. Being
Speaker 2: good is as long as Broom is healthy to play,
Speaker 2: you got a really good coach. I haven't been impressed
Speaker 2: with Florida. I mean, I love Clayton. He's awesome, he's great,
Speaker 2: he's so much fun. But I watched a couple of
Speaker 2: games because everybody said, oh my gosh. You know, Seth
Speaker 2: Greenberg said, it's like Noah's Ark. They got two of everything,
Speaker 2: and I went, Okay, I think we've we moved on
Speaker 2: from Auburn quickly because they lost what three or four
Speaker 2: at the end of the season. That's still a really
Speaker 2: good team, tough team, and once again veterans there. The
Speaker 2: only team that's really had freshmen who have had an
Speaker 2: impact is Duke, and that's rare. In March badness, Like,
Speaker 2: you don't.
Speaker 8: Buy the idea. You don't buy the idea that Florida's.
Speaker 9: Tough physically and mentally because they came back and won
Speaker 9: two games against Yukon in Texas Town.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they could have lost those games. Chris, I mean,
Speaker 2: we could look at it that way too. They could
Speaker 2: have easily lost the those games.
Speaker 8: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 9: They were down ten with three minutes to go against
Speaker 9: Texas Tech. They think you can go either way with that.
Speaker 9: You can say they learned something and uh, you know,
Speaker 9: nothing is going to phase them if they fall behind,
Speaker 9: or you can say that's a sign that they're a
Speaker 9: little overrated.
Speaker 2: Now, don't bet on my information, Chris, I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't bet on mine either.
Speaker 2: No, I know that, I you know, I do think.
Speaker 9: You know, Florida went easy at Auburn in a regular
Speaker 9: season late I think Florida and I think Florida Duke.
Speaker 9: I think any combination is pretty good because these are
Speaker 9: all one seeds.
Speaker 8: I think Florida Duke on Monday night would be a
Speaker 8: great game. That's what we get.
Speaker 2: I don't think people will enjoy. Uh, if it's Houston
Speaker 2: and Auburn, you're probably right, Yeah, they probably.
Speaker 8: I probably should.
Speaker 9: That game will have problem problems you are used to.
Speaker 9: Houston and aubur would be a tough watch. Southern part
Speaker 9: of the country ugly, but Florida Florida Duke be Yeah,
Speaker 9: we do.
Speaker 8: They need open The final Dupe bring brings eyeballs they
Speaker 8: need dupe to the final.
Speaker 2: What's it like when you have a big loss. Do
Speaker 2: you have to tell your wife how much money you lost?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 9: No, no, I don't.
Speaker 8: She knows. She hears me scream about it, but no,
Speaker 8: she and you win some too, you know. It's not
Speaker 8: like I lose all the time.
Speaker 9: I know.
Speaker 8: I tell you what's really bothered me. I had the Nuggets.
Speaker 2: Over fifty one and a half.
Speaker 9: They've lost the Wizards twice, the Bulls, they lost to
Speaker 9: Minnesota where they blew the game with Westbrook, and then
Speaker 9: they don't play anybody against San Antonio when they're playing
Speaker 9: for something.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 9: I mean, come on, I mean, I understand the players
Speaker 9: today make a big deal about well we were much
Speaker 9: better and physically and all that nonsense.
Speaker 8: Here's here's what I want to Here's what I want
Speaker 8: to play to do.
Speaker 9: Bird played any two games every year, eighty two freaking games.
Speaker 8: They were sixty five and seven fifteen.
Speaker 9: And he's playing in game eighty three against US eighty
Speaker 9: against the Nets. Murray's played sixty five games, He's takes
Speaker 9: seventeen games off.
Speaker 8: How about playing a full schedule?
Speaker 9: And you know, and Montico commercial instead of playing charter
Speaker 9: and play three games in three different cities on commercial
Speaker 9: aircraft and sitting in the back of the plane and
Speaker 9: getting up the next day to play a ball game.
Speaker 9: I mean, munch do that and then we can find
Speaker 9: out from a standpoint of staying mentally into it.
Speaker 8: I mean, he's players there, hot stuff taking these games off.
Speaker 8: I mean it is ridiculous. I mean, let's face it
Speaker 8: is stupid.
Speaker 3: It's stupid.
Speaker 9: I mean, Denver's playing the stay out of the playing
Speaker 9: Danny and they bench everybody on when they get him
Speaker 9: all the night off against the San Antonio Spurs.
Speaker 8: I mean, you must be kidding me. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And your favorite player, Kawhi Leonard, you know, he's never played.
Speaker 2: Now he's back. Now he's he's back, and now they're
Speaker 2: dangerous because Kawhi is back.
Speaker 8: Until he played, he's played thirty one games. You know.
Speaker 9: Juminski had Jaminz in the studio for the NCAA. The
Speaker 9: Great Jaminski played fourteen years in the NBA, twelve coaches.
Speaker 9: His career high was forty one points and twenty two rebounds.
Speaker 9: He did it on April eighth, nineteen eighty six, against
Speaker 9: the Celtics. That was the Celtics season sixty five and seventeen.
Speaker 9: They were sixty five and fifteen, two games to go
Speaker 9: in the season, and he did that against the Celtics.
Speaker 9: Bird played thirty seven minutes, Nichale played thirty four, Parish
Speaker 9: thirty one, and wal who couldn't walk?
Speaker 8: Wait twenty three minutes and it's game eighty.
Speaker 9: One and they've onay won sixty five games.
Speaker 8: I mean, holy, that's basketball. That's past.
Speaker 2: That was basketball. That was all right. Good to talk
Speaker 2: to me. I love you, Dady, keep goodbody. Thank you.
Speaker 2: That's a Christopher maddog. That's Christopher Maddog Russell.
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Speaker 2: App Demichael Cole covers the Grizzlies for the Memphis Commercial Appeal. Demichael,
Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. John Morant sounds like he's a
Speaker 2: victim here that he doesn't care about the criticism. Feels like,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe he's being targeted here. Help us understand
Speaker 2: the local feel of John Morant and what he's done
Speaker 2: in the last two games.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Dan, the number one thing when kind of peeling
Speaker 10: the curtain back here is this isn't anything new. Actually,
Speaker 10: this is a celebration that John Morant and several of
Speaker 10: his teammates have done over the course of the season.
Speaker 10: So when you talk about John Morant feels, you know,
Speaker 10: John Morant being the victim here, I think that's the
Speaker 10: feeling internally, especially specifically.
Speaker 3: You know with him, you know, this is a celebration.
Speaker 3: I've seen him.
Speaker 10: I mean I could at least go back to the
Speaker 10: beginning of the year him doing this celebration, and he
Speaker 10: does it pretty much after every mad three pointer. Now
Speaker 10: you know Johns and Steph Curry, he's not making four
Speaker 10: or five three pointers a game, but you know he's
Speaker 10: made a decent amount of three pointers. And we've seen
Speaker 10: this celebration time and time again. I think what stood
Speaker 10: out in this particular situation going back to that Golden
Speaker 10: State game.
Speaker 3: It's number one, it's Grizzlies Golden State.
Speaker 10: Over the last two three years, that game has always
Speaker 10: had increased significance. And then number two, it happened and
Speaker 10: it cost the technical foul. So in the past we
Speaker 10: see it and in this game, you know, the recent
Speaker 10: game that was on you know National TV against the
Speaker 10: Miami Heat. It's harmless. It's coming after, you know, made
Speaker 10: three point baskets. And he's doing it towards the Grizzlies bench.
Speaker 10: She's doing it towards the opposing bench. He's going it
Speaker 10: towards the players. He's just doing it in the general direction.
Speaker 10: And in the case with the Golden State game, it
Speaker 10: was him and Buddy Hill, you know, gesturing towards one another,
Speaker 10: which led to the official stepping end and calling the
Speaker 10: technical foul. So I think that's kind of what's brought
Speaker 10: this increased attention onto it. But locally, I think that's
Speaker 10: the main point here is this is something that he's
Speaker 10: been doing for months.
Speaker 2: What do you think the commissioner does this time around.
Speaker 10: I don't think the commission does anything until it's something
Speaker 10: that leads to you know, a greater you know type
Speaker 10: of I guess altercation or something, if that makes sense.
Speaker 10: So in this case, let's say, you know, if John
Speaker 10: Morant gestures towards an opposing bench and a guy gets
Speaker 10: up and walks in his direction, then I feel like
Speaker 10: that's when you know they'll have to step in. But
Speaker 10: if you go around the league, this is not just
Speaker 10: a celebration John Morant's doing. This isn't just a celebration
Speaker 10: that the Grizzlies players is doing. It's one that's League
Speaker 10: Watts sort of in a way. And even Lebron James,
Speaker 10: you know, he did kind of a little bit of
Speaker 10: a different version of it yesterday against the Warriors, but
Speaker 10: he made a shot in the corner, the corner three
Speaker 10: pointer that he made, and he turns towards the crowd
Speaker 10: and does kind of a similar celebration. But again, you know,
Speaker 10: you have to understand, we understand why with John Morant
Speaker 10: there is increased intention on what he doesn't. You know,
Speaker 10: that has happened because of how the last two years
Speaker 10: have have kind of played out here. But in this case,
Speaker 10: I don't think the commissioner will really step in and,
Speaker 10: you know, uh, do anything of significance unless it leads
Speaker 10: to something greater, because you're really what we're saying is
Speaker 10: there's a May three, he does the celebration and they
Speaker 10: go back to playing defense.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But see what I worry about to Michael is
Speaker 2: if I'm the commissioner, I want to be proactive. I
Speaker 2: don't want to be reactive. I don't want to go hey,
Speaker 2: until there's an altercation. We've already seen job and be
Speaker 2: very immature with an actual gun a couple of times,
Speaker 2: and he's still doing that. I as the commissioner, it's
Speaker 2: just it's a bad look for the league and a
Speaker 2: bad look for him, and now it feels like he's
Speaker 2: embarrassed the commissioner publicly by you're going to do it
Speaker 2: again and he already had a If the league doesn't
Speaker 2: have a problem with it, then why do commissioner to
Speaker 2: talk to John Morand.
Speaker 10: I think I think in this case it was more
Speaker 10: so because inquirant minds wanted to look into the situation
Speaker 10: that that's that's what it was in this case, because
Speaker 10: if the league had seen an issue with the celebration,
Speaker 10: that's my point, they would have reached out in January,
Speaker 10: they would have reached out in February.
Speaker 3: They would reached out in previous national televised.
Speaker 10: Games where he's made three pointers and did the same celebration.
Speaker 10: There would have already been an instance where the league said,
Speaker 10: joh rethrowm. Yes, some other guys may be doing this celebration,
Speaker 10: but you, specifically.
Speaker 3: You probably shouldn't be doing this. But that hasn't been
Speaker 3: the case.
Speaker 10: I think in this in this situation, going back to
Speaker 10: this Golden State game a couple of days ago, I
Speaker 10: think what what happened was when people saw it, when
Speaker 10: it led to a technical foul and all of that,
Speaker 10: inquiant minds reached out to the league. You know, people
Speaker 10: like you know, reporters reached out to the league, Hey,
Speaker 10: is there anything of significance going to be done about
Speaker 10: this situation?
Speaker 3: The league said, we'll look into it.
Speaker 10: The League looked into it, and I think it was
Speaker 10: a situation where the league pretty much did their due diligence.
Speaker 10: I don't think the warning, so to speak, was a
Speaker 10: big hey, don't you do this again, or we're going
Speaker 10: to do We're going to do something. I think it
Speaker 10: was more of a read the room type of situation,
Speaker 10: if that makes sense. So I do think with the commissioner,
Speaker 10: he needs to be proactive with this and with some
Speaker 10: other situations that have been similar with players around the league.
Speaker 10: But at the same time, he's been sort of reactive
Speaker 10: all throughout this time with John going back to March
Speaker 10: of twenty twenty three, and I think that's kind of
Speaker 10: the case here.
Speaker 2: Most teams don't fire their coach when they're heading into
Speaker 2: the postseason. So why did the Grizzlies fire their head coach?
Speaker 3: Uh, he wasn't connecting with the players the same way anymore.
Speaker 10: And Pelo Jenkins, this has been here six years, so
Speaker 10: his voice players, you know, kind.
Speaker 3: Of connected with Taylor Jenkins on a whole other level.
Speaker 10: The big thing we talked about at the beginning of
Speaker 10: the year with Taylor Jenkins, John Moran, Jeron Jackson, Junior
Speaker 10: Desmond Bank, the leaders of the team was he talked
Speaker 10: about the need to be against brutally honest, you know,
Speaker 10: with those guys critiquing the players, saying telling John Morant, look,
Speaker 10: we need you to be better defensively, Desmond Bank, we
Speaker 10: need you to be better defensively. And they had good,
Speaker 10: honest conversations and those seemed to be received well. Early
Speaker 10: on in the season, the Grizzlies were doing well. But
Speaker 10: what we saw Dan take place was when the Grizzlies
Speaker 10: schedule got tougher. You turned the count to January, you
Speaker 10: go to February, when the schedule got tougher, the Grizzlies
Speaker 10: start to struggle and it was like they're not beating
Speaker 10: the top tier teams to the point when Taylor Jenkins
Speaker 10: was fired, the Grizzlies were eleven and twenty against teams
Speaker 10: with a record above five hundred. So if you look
Speaker 10: at the record, you know on the shell, and you say,
Speaker 10: and that's a good team, just you know, the top
Speaker 10: five seed the West. Six seasons with the team. But
Speaker 10: the bigger picture is is pretty simple. Actually to me,
Speaker 10: the Grizzlies want to win. Their core is in place.
Speaker 10: They believe in John.
Speaker 3: Moret, Desmond Band, and Jared Jackson Junr.
Speaker 10: They believe that that trio is enough to take them
Speaker 10: to championship contention. So they have their core in place.
Speaker 10: The next thing you have to realize is the financial situation.
Speaker 10: Jobs on his second contract pretty much a MAX deal.
Speaker 10: The Desmond Band is just you know, a few million
Speaker 10: dollars below a MAX deal. Jared Jackson Junior is potentially
Speaker 10: in line to receive a significantly a bigger deal this
Speaker 10: summer if he makes all NBA. So when you factor
Speaker 10: in all of that, the financial dollars are about to
Speaker 10: get tight and they need to win really soon. So
Speaker 10: I think that's a part of it. It's the urgency
Speaker 10: of the situation, and then you factor in the urgency
Speaker 10: it's a reality that, hey, we're not beating top teams.
Speaker 10: We're eleven and twenty against the best teams. Especially since
Speaker 10: the All Thar break, you haven't beaten a top team
Speaker 10: the league all of it, and they lost.
Speaker 3: Four out of five, you know, before he was fired.
Speaker 10: So when you factorate all those things, the writing was
Speaker 10: kind of on the wall that hey, this season isn't
Speaker 10: going anywhere.
Speaker 3: It's time to make a change.
Speaker 2: Demichael, thank you. I'm sure you got a busy day.
Speaker 2: We appreciate your time.
Speaker 3: I appreciate you. Dad, thank you.
Speaker 2: That was great.