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Speaker 1: I'm listening to the Black Guy Who Tips podcast because

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Speaker 1: Rod and Karen are Hey, welcome to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the Black hout Tels podcast. I'm your host, Rod joined

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Speaker 1: us always on my co host here and we're live

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Speaker 1: on a Saturday ready to do some feedback. And this

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Speaker 1: Saturday afternoon feedback show that is where we talk about

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Speaker 1: what you had to say to us throughout the week,

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Speaker 1: whether it was emails, voicemails, five star reviews, comments on

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Speaker 1: the website, comments on Spotify, all that stuff. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take the time out to let you know what we

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Speaker 1: think about what you had to say. Okay. The official

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Speaker 1: bulletball extreme. The first people we want to shout out though,

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Speaker 1: before we get into all this are the people that

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Speaker 1: people that go, you know what, I'm gonna put some

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Speaker 1: on it. Okay. I like y'all, I like what y'all

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Speaker 1: that y'all keep me entertained and my cubicle on commuter

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Speaker 1: whatever throughout the week, and uh, we take the time

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Speaker 1: out to give you some money. I say what, thank you? Oh,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate that, and we give you a little shout out. Man,

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Speaker 1: were not listen to you walk up the good folks

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Speaker 1: of time to the chips. The day's a new days,

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Speaker 1: new day, new pay. Let's talk about it. Ms Brawn

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Speaker 1: hit those current donations. You said, if I'm gonna give

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Speaker 2: Some of that singing. Rna te m pete be.

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Johanna M. David from Brookett, Brooklyn

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Speaker 1: Josh Wanga from down Under, Thank you, Bro all the

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Speaker 1: a brand new recurrent donator. Thank you very much. We

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Speaker 2: Play me out, Quam.

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Speaker 1: We don't have any five star reviews for the second

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Speaker 3: Two weeks in a row.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think uh, you believe that what is happening.

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Speaker 1: I think these niggas hate us, Karen. I think I.

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Speaker 3: Mean y'all don't love us no more all about me.

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Speaker 3: I mean we, I mean we let it go.

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Speaker 4: Last week, we was like okay, and mighty baby, you

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Speaker 4: know what they said, somebody in retrograde or something like that.

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Speaker 3: So you know, we let it go.

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Speaker 4: But you know, this week, I'm I'm thinking that this

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Speaker 4: to figure out, you know, what is happening. We look

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Speaker 4: them and them any five star reviews, so we know

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Speaker 4: it's a lot of people seeting them. Be like, I'm

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Speaker 4: but I'm not even gonna give so you know, I'm

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Speaker 4: judging you. And if you already left a five star

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Speaker 4: of you, you know, actual fellow, actual sister, your cousin,

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Speaker 4: your wife, your mate, your significant other, have they left

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Speaker 3: Five star review on they behalf. We're gonna get it.

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Speaker 3: How we can give us these five stars.

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Speaker 1: M h.

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Speaker 2: I love that passionate rant Care had about abortion.

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Speaker 3: No, not y'all doing another live show. I want to

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Speaker 3: see you.

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Speaker 1: Negroes. All right, let's talk about comments on the website.

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Speaker 1: Episode twenty five to twenty seven the Kevin Samuels or

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Speaker 1: Arby's was our feedback episode, and just says yep, of

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Speaker 1: course Arby's is paying influences. That dude did not even

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of discouragement, a lot of people

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Speaker 2: It's morally wrong, but it's still happening today.

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Speaker 1: But it's not like all people of color supporters are

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Speaker 1: LGBTQ rights. Of course, yep, they should know how it

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Speaker 1: feels to be victims. Yeah, everyone should that everyone is

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Speaker 1: just when I said white people, I know there are

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Speaker 3: Yeah, white tm, and the fight has been to take

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Speaker 4: Our forefathers, Like they cold this language in all different

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Speaker 4: types of ways. But when people say certain things, these

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Speaker 4: his is make America great again. So what you're trying

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Speaker 4: to say, it's not great now, that's what you're trying

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Speaker 4: so when people be like, hey, y'all, this rhetoric is dangerous,

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Speaker 4: And at the end of the day, it's all goes

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Speaker 4: back to slavery. We don't want anybody to have power

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Speaker 1: Slavery and the genocide of the indigenous people that were

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Speaker 1: already here as well. It's this is an America is

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Speaker 1: a heist? You know, come on. That was one joke

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Speaker 1: not gonna disrupt this system too hard because these are

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Speaker 1: because I don't want to get like, you know, I

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Speaker 2: Weeks of just like No.

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Speaker 1: What I really mean is I totally understand your point

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Speaker 1: and I'm just elaborating on it. Lakita says, I just

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Speaker 1: learned listening to the playback that my pettiness is twenty

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Speaker 1: five percent Nigerian and me, yes, make that nigga death

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Speaker 1: a holiday and no, not like Easter, dammit. Also Ride,

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Speaker 1: so I guess you want Kevin sangons death to be

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Speaker 1: money cracking the fuck up closing fucks Kevin sagals. She

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Speaker 1: also said our flagman's death is fucking hilarious. I need

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Speaker 1: another season right now. Okay, fuck Kevin's MDR says, Hey,

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Speaker 1: y'all tried RBS because I fail for the influencer hype

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Speaker 1: and now I can say, without a doubt, trash whole

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Speaker 1: thing more mediocre than Kevin Samuels fans, as mediocre and

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Speaker 1: pathetic as black Republicans. I was so upset I disputed

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Speaker 1: the charge with my credit card company.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because they are running a fraud.

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Speaker 1: You deserve your money back.

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Speaker 2: That is, that is they took your money.

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Speaker 1: Under fraudulent turn You couldn't have known because they hired

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Speaker 1: the best well, they say, best cheese sticks he's ever

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I mean, I don't know, we can say.

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Speaker 1: with a political minority. Come on, Tanya says hi Rod

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Speaker 1: and Karen. I'm laid on the feedback, but it was

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Speaker 1: so great to hear Rod's mom on the podcast for

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Speaker 1: Mother's Day she's so wonderful. She real Batman versus Superman

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Speaker 1: moment in my mind. Lol. Because my mom's name is

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Speaker 1: also JiTT, was also Jitty. Yeah, and my brother's wife,

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Speaker 1: my sister in law, her mom's name is Jeddy. Judy's

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Speaker 1: a rage. There's a lot of us going around it is.

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Speaker 1: Regarding the Three Mile Island documentary, I really want to

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Speaker 1: watch it. But on a lighter note, the airport port

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Speaker 1: code for the Harrisburg Airport is MDT, and I have

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Speaker 1: it on good authority that many pilaces call it melt

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Speaker 1: downtown damn on count of this, hope this father to that.

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Speaker 2: It's not wrong.

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Speaker 1: It's funny box. If not, that's truly, that's pretty funny. Man.

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Speaker 1: thing about Marster's a humor. I laugh at stuff that's

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, uh, I didn't. I didn't think the

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Speaker 4: were not raised up in playful households like that, and

433
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Speaker 4: so or households that a lot or allowed that a

434
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Speaker 4: lot of that laughter, even though we always poke fun

435
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 4: and shit like that, we laugh at our own pain,

436
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:52,919
Speaker 4: but where it's considered natural to do so, and it's okay,

437
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 4: and you're not poking or picking fun.

438
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Speaker 1: You know.

439
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 4: Because for a lot of black people, certain things, certain topics.

440
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 4: That's why, and I'm sensitive about certain things too, we

441
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: feel a personal attack because it's real pain, it's real hurt,

442
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 4: it's real agony, it's history behind it. So you know,

443
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,560
Speaker 4: when you hit certain topics, you know you're gonna get

444
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 4: all types of responses based on sometimes if the person

445
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,080
Speaker 4: has humor or not, you know. And so I think

446
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 4: for me, those things that matter. And a lot of

447
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 4: times the mother white supremacy. The mother normally dictates what

448
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 4: the child identifies as in a lot of cases, which

449
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 4: is sad because the dad should also have us say

450
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 4: so too. But majority of the time, if the mother

451
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,400
Speaker 4: comes out and you're black, that child's going to say, okay,

452
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 4: I'm black. If the mother comes out and pushs whiteness

453
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Speaker 4: upon that child, that child is going to be like,

454
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Speaker 4: I'm white.

455
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Speaker 1: You know.

456
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Speaker 4: And you have some parents like you're mixed, which is

457
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 4: probably the proper thing to do. You are mixed, but

458
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 4: you know, society, white supremacy makes you choose, and so

459
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 4: a lot of people make these choices. And then you

460
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 4: have these children that grew up in these situations that

461
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: get around different people and things like that, get different

462
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:02,640
Speaker 4: influences and a lot of times depend on such situations.

463
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 4: They get mad and angry when children feel like they're

464
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 4: lied to, when they were like, Wow, all of a sudden,

465
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 4: I'm learning about some shit that I should have known,

466
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Speaker 4: or why didn't you tell me I was black? And

467
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 4: all these types of type of thing, and it could

468
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 4: be a mind fuck. And there's a lot of adults

469
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 4: that are have been through this, or are going through this,

470
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: or are shifting through this. You know, I had to

471
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,880
Speaker 4: learn my privilege as far as knowing I'm black, being

472
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Speaker 4: around black people, you know, knowing I'm a nigger, and I.

473
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Speaker 3: Didn't have this back and forth with that.

474
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Speaker 4: But I as an adult, I was like, oh, some

475
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 4: of these people were raising situations where it was a

476
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 4: back and forth wherever it was an internal fight for them,

477
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 4: and so their battles and their scars are going to

478
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 4: be completely different than mine. And I have compassion to

479
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 4: that and understanding to that, and I don't shame them

480
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 4: for that because it's a part of their life experience,

481
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Speaker 4: which is also part of the black experience. It's just

482
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Speaker 4: a lot of times, I think from a lot of

483
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Speaker 4: dark skinned people, a lot of that hurt in their pain.

484
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,720
Speaker 4: People that have been told their black their whole life.

485
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: A lot of the times they feel like, well, I'm

486
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 4: gonna turn on you for you turn on me, because

487
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 4: eventually everybody picks whiteness, be it true or not, but

488
00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,640
Speaker 4: a lot of us feel like that, you know, and

489
00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:20,679
Speaker 4: so they backlash and treat people bad, even though this

490
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:24,080
Speaker 4: child has done nothing and may not even have done

491
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Speaker 4: anything to make people feel that way. But because they

492
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 4: own insecurities, they project, you know, because I'm a friend

493
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Speaker 4: of mine and she was like, yeah, most of my

494
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Speaker 4: racism come for black people from them telling me I'm

495
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Speaker 4: not black enough, Like that is a real thing. And

496
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Speaker 4: so it's funny when people try to dismiss that shit

497
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Speaker 4: like that shit's not a fact.

498
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Speaker 3: You know, All these people don't line consistently want to

499
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Speaker 3: keep people out of blackness?

500
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Speaker 4: Wife, Why do you want to consistently quote unquote kick

501
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Speaker 4: people out of blackness when you cannot keep people to

502
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Speaker 4: kick anybody out of blackness.

503
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Speaker 3: If you claim black, baby, you black.

504
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think as far as this situation is concerned,

505
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Speaker 1: I didn't really go look up any more information about

506
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Speaker 1: it because I felt like you could tell her everything

507
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: that was pertinent from that clip. And I think also

508
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: it says a lot about the black men and the

509
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: wives they choose. And honestly, if you're the parent of

510
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: color in a relationship like this, it is your responsibility

511
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: to make sure you choose a mate that is going

512
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Speaker 1: to have some understanding or empathy towards the plight that

513
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Speaker 1: your child is going to be born in dealing with

514
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: a racist society. And unfortunately, white people don't do the work.

515
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: They don't read, they think, they go off of vibes,

516
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: they go off of feelings. They think work racism and

517
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Speaker 1: race and learning about it is a big old headache.

518
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: Even the good ones many times think it's a big

519
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,440
Speaker 1: old headache, and they think I can just go out

520
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,199
Speaker 1: here on a helping a prayer and just treat my

521
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: kid nicest in the house, don't talk about racism and

522
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: racism in front of racism and prejudice in front of them,

523
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Speaker 1: and somehow it will prepare this kid to be black

524
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Speaker 1: in the world that they don't understand. And in their mind,

525
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 1: they just see my child. They don't see a black child,

526
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: which is which is they think is a good thing,

527
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: which is I don't see race when I look at

528
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,359
Speaker 1: my kid, And it's like, no, we need you to

529
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,439
Speaker 1: see it, because we need you to prepare them for

530
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: a world that sees it and will attack them for it.

531
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Speaker 1: And you can think that up until this point because

532
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 1: they've internalized, they've been taught so much of what is

533
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: wrong with black people is internal. Is internal. It's something

534
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: wrong with us. It's not the world is not treating

535
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 1: us unfairly as us and the way we react to it.

536
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: And everyone has to deal with some unfairness, so just

537
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,399
Speaker 1: just smile through it or whatever. And they just they

538
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: not prepare for this shit in a lot of cases,

539
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:47,479
Speaker 1: and you know, I think it leads to stuff like

540
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: this is an extreme case. I don't think most white

541
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,160
Speaker 1: moms are this fucking bad. So let's just start there.

542
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: And I think there's a ton that are just like

543
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 1: well meaning, but not they not about that life as

544
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: far as like, I'm bringing a black child into this

545
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 1: world and they accept it, and that's hard for them

546
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: like they because they because then they would have to

547
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: admit I don't know it about being a mother to

548
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 1: a black child, right, you know. I know about being

549
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: a white person in this world. I know about having

550
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: a white mom normally. I know about maybe having some

551
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: black friends. I don't really know what it is to

552
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: be the person who was supposed to provide and care

553
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: for and protect a black child. And it's a bunch

554
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: of pitfalls you wouldn't see coming if you didn't live

555
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: it or understand it. So but yeah, in this case

556
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: with this woman, she just seems adamantly anti black. And

557
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: I did wonder where the father was and what kind

558
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: of duty was and you know, did they get divorced?

559
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: You know, it's this or whatever. And I also think

560
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: there's plenty of people in interracial marriages where they do

561
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: bring it, and I think, you know, I try not

562
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 1: to get too big into casting dispersions because what a

563
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: lot of people like to do, whether it's jealousy, resentment,

564
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: or just bitter in this or whatever the fuck is

565
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 1: when they see a person of color with a white

566
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: person and romantically, they just assume a bunch of bad

567
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: shit before they even open their fucking mouth. And I'm

568
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: not saying I assume good shit or bad shit. I

569
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: am neutral.

570
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I assume nothing.

571
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: Until you start talking. I'm gonna give you like you

572
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: get the full benefit of the doubt of yeah, you

573
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: probably in love.

574
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: And that's what happened.

575
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: Is not until somebody starts talking that shit that I'm like, oh, well,

576
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: that's unfortunate. Now I know you full of shit. So

577
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: that's a big thing for me. You know, I can't

578
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: speak for other people. I think you know, we've all

579
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: had so many scars and wounds out here, especially people

580
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: looking for love, that it does become like a presumptive

581
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: type of thing, and you hate to see when it's

582
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 1: proven right. But I personally am not gonna see. I

583
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: don't just like to see a white black man and

584
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: a white woman to go, oh, clearly they hate black women.

585
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: You never know, you know, you hope not. Anyway, Afia

586
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: says when we had COVID, the rapid test worked surprisingly well.

587
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: I still got about fifty of them I got from work.

588
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: The test had a very right, bright positive line at

589
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: the beginning. The next test I took when I was

590
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: in the middle of the infection, it turned pink faster

591
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 1: and more intense. When infection was going away, the line

592
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: got brighter again. I'm pretty sure we had amicron. I

593
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: was really surprised by the test, and it made me

594
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: feel better about all the times before I tested negative

595
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: and thought, I hope this is true. If you wonder

596
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: why I had so many tests, there was a time

597
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: last year when I had to test myself every day

598
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: and document it. Am Diyaria says a follow up on

599
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: the honey Pot, it sounds like she had a good

600
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: reason to add preservatives, probably so they last longer on

601
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: the chef shelf. Here's a good article about this from Essence.

602
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: The honey Pot found to shares emotional apology at the

603
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: ingredient chain, sparks backlash. I would never make harmful products.

604
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: I'm responsible to you as humans who consume our products.

605
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: You absolutely can hold me accountable. Oh this is like

606
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 1: fourteen minutes I have. I can't play all of this.

607
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but our spiritually and professionally connected to this brand.

608
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: She wrote, The honey Pot is still owned by my brother,

609
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: myself and our team. The honey Pot has not been sold.

610
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: It's all a lot and a rumor. I remained the owner,

611
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: CEO and chief Innovator officer period. Any other discussion is

612
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: simply not true. She noted that, yes, the ingredients have changed,

613
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: with the safety of them is not Transparency and communication

614
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: have always been our promise to you. So I'll be real.

615
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: We have evolved our watches. We would well, we have

616
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 1: not done this compromise. What matters, which is being planted, derived,

617
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 1: being pH balance and being backed by science. I assure

618
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,920
Speaker 1: you that this formula is what it was designed to be,

619
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: which is safe, beautiful, and even more effective. But as

620
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,280
Speaker 1: standing by the product, she admitted she could have done

621
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Speaker 1: things differently regarding to sharing their changes of customers, who

622
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: she calls humans, as well as why they were required

623
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Speaker 1: to do so. So I guess you said humans to

624
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 1: avoid the gendered language of women, lady stuff like that,

625
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: we should have shared more communication about the updates.

626
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: So I wonder because they could.

627
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 4: This is not your funny change the laws on the laboring,

628
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: so it may have been something we're theybure to.

629
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: Ay, we changed the laws.

630
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 4: You have to have certain labelings and have certain ingredients listed.

631
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Speaker 1: Now we have realized that we should have communicated more

632
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 1: directly to our humans. To be honest, we had planned

633
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: for a change to our formula that we were actually

634
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: going to be launching later that what we did, if

635
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: we were going to share, we were going to share

636
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 1: that with you. But based on all the shit that's

637
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: going on with the global supply chain, our plans had

638
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: to accelerate. They prioritize getting back in stock, but can

639
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: say they didn't do enough to educate on the ways

640
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: the latest formula is more similar than different than why

641
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: the branded change. So she spent a number of minutes

642
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: breaking down the ingredients in our Watcher, saying this is

643
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: better than a great path for As for the loss

644
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: of one hundred percent natural zero pairabins zero dioxide information

645
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 1: on the label, that was removed because regulations have changed

646
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: about using such claims, that's not our choice as a brand,

647
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: but is our reality. That said, we still do not

648
00:31:55,640 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: formulate with added pairabins, dioxides and sulf rates. Dixon concluded

649
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Speaker 1: her message was reminding by reminding every one of the

650
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: company's importance to her so as reminded supporters of their

651
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: role in helping to build it. With that in mind,

652
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 1: she offered her apologies for the lapse in communication.

653
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can.

654
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 4: Understand that because they do actually change a lot of

655
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: the laws and rules and regulations around what can be there,

656
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 4: what can't be there, what you can claim a right. Uh.

657
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: And also they offered they also offered a apology on

658
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: the newsletter. She is very clear on why people are

659
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: said and it's sorry about it. Every transparency, early transparency

660
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: about ship's planned that can impact the product is always

661
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: the best lead to go to business hunty products acknowledge

662
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: that they could have handled it better.

663
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't know.

664
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not my I know it's not my fight.

665
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,719
Speaker 1: But to me, that seems like a very valid explanation

666
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: and apology. And I understand some people are gonna not

667
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: be satisfied with it and they're gonna move on, which

668
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: is fine. Like, you know, this is part of what

669
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: happens when you pitch yourself as part of being community

670
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: organized and community based or whatever you know, or community supported.

671
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: The community can change, the community can can.

672
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 2: Come down hard on you.

673
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: The community can assume the worst. And a lot of

674
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: that's in how it was pitched to people. And no

675
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: one's gonna go back and clean that up and say, oh,

676
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: that's my bad job, I had some bad information. We

677
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: see it all the time now with social media, people

678
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: say some fucked up shit and they never go back

679
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: and go, this was correct, and let me take down

680
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: what I said. Issue an apology, because if she hasn't

681
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 1: sold that company, somebody does owe her apology, because that

682
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 1: was how I saw it, right. It was first there

683
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 1: was she sold the company, white people taking over, they

684
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: fucking up the formula.

685
00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,720
Speaker 2: Then it was all these other lies and then some.

686
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: Truths, but mostly like it started with on a lot

687
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: and that already puts people in a certain attitude of

688
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: fuck you. So so like even if they find stuff

689
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: ain't true later, they started with fuck you instead of

690
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 1: a like if someone would have just said, hey, I

691
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: think they may have changed the formula or something, people

692
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: would have been like, yeah, what is this. We want

693
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: a explanation that's different than you sold the company, white

694
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: people change the formula, and now you got a bag

695
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 1: somewhere laughing at us. You know, so I get the offense,

696
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: and I also think, I don't know, man, I think

697
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: I would. I mean, it's probably impossible at this point

698
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 1: in our society, but it would be nice for people

699
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: to give people the benefit of the doubts sometimes and

700
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: say like, yeah, you fucked up, But I believe your explanation.

701
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 1: Assuming this doesn't happen again, or has it happened before,

702
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: let's just move on. And I hope that that's what

703
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: the most majority of people are doing, the rational people

704
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: that are like, you know, kind of cooler heads prevailing, like,

705
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: we don't want to take you down because we got

706
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: some misinformation and you you miscommunicated because especially with that

707
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: supplies chain thing and that accelerating the change, so they

708
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: basically pushed pushed it out before they could fucking really

709
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: communicate everything that was going on in this chaotic economy.

710
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: That sounds plausible.

711
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, And also I think that there are people that

712
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 4: feel like that, but that particular opinion is every word

713
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 4: of on line, so people.

714
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 3: Don't care about that.

715
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 4: And the thing is, I did see people coming out

716
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: and saying when it first happened, they was like, y'all,

717
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 4: do know a lot.

718
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: Of these ingredients are the same thing.

719
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 4: They just have the quote unquote the chemistry name behind

720
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 4: the ingredients versus just the plain English.

721
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: To simplify it and stuff like that. But people didn't

722
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 3: want to hear that.

723
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: Well, all, yeah, it sounded like this stuff has always

724
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: been in there, but at levels that the FDA or

725
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: whoever regulates, was like, you don't have to report that,

726
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: and somebody change and said, actually, with these regulations, you

727
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: do have to report that. So it's like, okay, well

728
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 1: we do have some but we're not adding da da da.

729
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: And it's like people people want to get you so

730
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: bad it don't matter. I feel like that's been a

731
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: theme this last week of my life, just watching how

732
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: much online people just want to get you and it

733
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: don't matter, It don't really matter the context of the truth.

734
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: It's like I'm mad and I gotta get somebody. It's like, okay,

735
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: but it don't shouldn't it matter that that that you

736
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: shouldn't have mad, like how this happened, and and and

737
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:38,720
Speaker 1: like if it's a reasonable explanation versus some like malfeasings

738
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: and scamming. And also like it feels like a little

739
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: bit we're saying this because you're black, that you're you're

740
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: you did this in an evil way and you meant

741
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: to hurt us.

742
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, know, so we hold you to a higher standard

743
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 4: because we don't hold white people to this standard because

744
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 4: we just don't have faith and believing that that they're

745
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 4: going to do the right thing in the first place,

746
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 4: and it's almost like you get the black tax punishment

747
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 4: because you are black.

748
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 1: And they thought she got a payday, so some of

749
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 1: jealousy was in there too, which and it turned out

750
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: to night and be true. But they thought she made

751
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: some type of parachute and escaped on the ass and

752
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: then said, ha, I got your money. And so I

753
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: can see where the anger came from. But as soon

754
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: as you find out that's not true, it feels.

755
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 4: Like we should be able to say, all right, right

756
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: you and because you know what that right there would

757
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: be the more adoti ish thing to do. But you know,

758
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 4: a lot of people I've realized online are not very

759
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: mature and saying I'm sorry or my bad. It's almost

760
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 4: seeing like a character flow online, you know, having compassion,

761
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: having understanding, empathy, sympathy, all these things which in my

762
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 4: opinion makes you a better human being. You're not rewarded for.

763
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 3: Any of that online.

764
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 4: You're rewarded for the outrage, the sadness, the depression.

765
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: You're kind of rewarded for.

766
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 4: The extremes of these emotions versus people, which is the

767
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 4: average people even online or in the middle.

768
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: But those people don't get that attention.

769
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: All right, Let's go to the poll, which was are

770
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: you ready for three someome sex parties again? And three

771
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: some and sex parties again? No? Okay, so five percent

772
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: say yes, eighty five percent eighty six percent say no,

773
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: and looks like around nine and a half percent never quit.

774
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 1: They never stopped. Oh shit, I know because shout out

775
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: to you.

776
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: I know news is one of them, but I know.

777
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 4: The other one, COVID is there like no more people

778
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 4: more COVID.

779
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: All right, and you know what, they got the money,

780
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: the money RESI. The results are slightly slightly different. Twenty

781
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 1: four percent say yes, oh shit, see because they got

782
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: that money, so they like, yeah, let's fucking go. What's

783
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: that popping bottles? Sixty five percent say no, and eleven

784
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 1: percent never stopped. These were the freaks at they got

785
00:38:59,880 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: the money. They're going to the orgies, they could travel ass.

786
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 3: And some o's in this house. They're like, let's go,

787
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 3: don't stop, get it, get it.

788
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: The Q and A was that's not what we meant

789
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,719
Speaker 1: by whip nay nay haha. Aaron says, like massa like son.

790
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: Ms Bard says, I would have taken a baseball back.

791
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 2: To mom and dad.

792
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Jay jadimo Ate says, yes, Rob, my boyfriend and I

793
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: have been watching Bad Vegan and we are just like

794
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: she's scamming too. Once she started not telling certain folks

795
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: that he was her husband when he was trying to

796
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 1: invest in the biz.

797
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was telling people that was her brother.

798
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I thought that she was in on it.

799
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: She was in on it, and she capitalizing on the

800
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: fact she attractive white woman. Convinually attractive white woman.

801
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 2: You know that they love them. And she just going like,

802
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened.

803
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I'm like, I don't know, nigga,

804
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: you had you was getting up coming up too too deep.

805
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: Raphael says, I just turned forty today and the pandemic

806
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: has made it clear. I'm not ready for three or BDSM.

807
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: I'm starting my church instead of delivering these centers out here.

808
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: Well, happy birthday, Happy birthday, Welcome to the Dirty forty club.

809
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: And Nelson says, should have put a foot in the

810
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: crack of his cracker ass.

811
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: I don't know why that's take me.

812
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: It's hilarious to be it's so old and black.

813
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 3: You don't know that sound like some of your Grandma would.

814
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: Say Arby's, we have the piss was next episode we

815
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 1: had four comments. Ms Barne says the distinction he pointed

816
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: out that is a Canadian Arby's, not an American Los

817
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: Polos Harman oops, I mean American Arby's. Can't wait for

818
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: the orange cream sickle shake to show up this summer. Eh,

819
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: also to mention what that happened in October, not the summer,

820
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 1: so those shakes are safe? I don't I don't know why.

821
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: That makes no sense. You just said word.

822
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: You just saying words, and that was the word selling hilarious.

823
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're just trying to hurt me, because the next

824
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: sentence is only the Punkins fight shakes would be in danger,

825
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: not the summer shakes. So you just trying to hurt

826
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: my feelings. And look, if you want to support your

827
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: child pornographers, go do that. Ain't nobody stopping them. It's

828
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: freedom of choice, go do that.

829
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 2: B Star says, Hey, Pat and Karen.

830
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I never heard Wanda speak

831
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:24,720
Speaker 1: about violence against black trans women or black LGBTQ people,

832
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 1: or said anything about the shootings that happen over the weekend.

833
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: That is truly very traumatizing, but keep talking about a

834
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: slap that has nothing to do with her. She's a

835
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: part of those communities that deal with atrocities on a

836
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: daily but has been vocal about them as she does

837
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: this slap because it was her rich.

838
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,360
Speaker 2: Work friend that was violated.

839
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: Okay, be star, let's start right. Let's start there. Number one.

840
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: You wrong. So that's that's one of the problems with

841
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: coming in hot and loud in Rome. We got this

842
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:07,919
Speaker 1: comment on the eighteenth and nine. I was gonna reply

843
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: to on the site and like, nope, oll wait. But

844
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: the first thing I did was what you should have did.

845
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: I googled wander Syke's name and I went to her

846
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 1: Instagram page. On her Instagram page at the time, the

847
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 1: post that was on there was this one victims in

848
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: the supermarket shooting Celestine Cheney sixty five, ROBERTA. A. Drury

849
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: thirty two, Andre McNeil fifty three, Catherine Massey seventy two,

850
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: Marcus D. Morrison fifty two, Hayward Patterson sixty seven, Aaron

851
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 1: Salter Junior fifty five, Geraldine Tally sixty two, Ruth Woodfield

852
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: eighty six, Pearl Young seventy seven, and then the caption

853
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: was praying for the families of the victims in the

854
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: Buffalo massacre. It will be difficult for the community to rebuild.

855
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: Consider donating to the victims. Hash tag go fundy in

856
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: my stories photo credit ny Times. And then her stories

857
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,879
Speaker 1: was the link. So you was wrong, Like, why can't

858
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 1: we just start with there? You was wrong? You didn't

859
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: know what you was talking about. Also on her on

860
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 1: her Instagram page is a lot of like clips from

861
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: like political stuff.

862
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 2: Uh, there's Ayana Presley talking about.

863
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 5: I rise today in solidarity with the one in four

864
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 5: women across this country who have had an abortion and

865
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 5: every person who will ever seek abortion care. Your neighbor, coworker,

866
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 5: family member, those whom you work with, and yes, those

867
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 5: whom you worship with. Two the mother of three working

868
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,720
Speaker 5: double shifts to make ends meet, who just cannot manage

869
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 5: the physical demands of another pregnancy. The student who made

870
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 5: the decision to finish their degree and begin their family

871
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,040
Speaker 5: on their own terms. No shame, no stigma, no regrets.

872
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: This goes on for five minutes. She had Hakeen Jeffries

873
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: up there saying this is day's energy.

874
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 6: I aspect from the Democrats sudden interest in decorum. What

875
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 6: happened to your interest in decorum as it relates to

876
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 6: the January sixth violent insurrection that you called a peaceful protest,

877
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: that you called legitimate political discourse, a normal tourist visit.

878
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 6: What happened to your interest in decorum?

879
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: Then this goes on for four minutes, So I thought

880
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: it was wow that you would even do that. She

881
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: also has Karine Jean Pierre Pierre, the first LGBTQ speaker

882
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: for out open black woman, black and queer White House

883
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: Press secretary. She has her speaker as well at the top.

884
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 7: This is a historic moment and it's not lost on me.

885
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 7: I understand how important it is for so many people

886
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 7: out there, so many different communities that I stand on

887
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 7: their shoulders, and I have been throughout my career, and

888
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 7: so it is an honor and a privilege to be

889
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 7: behind this podium in about a week or so, when

890
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 7: Jen is ready, and that that is something that I

891
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 7: will honor and do my best to represent.

892
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 1: So it's not just that you could be wrong. You

893
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: were wrong, and this is the problem. And I love

894
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: when people write in and illustrate the point I had,

895
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: because the point I had about Wanda in particular was

896
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,360
Speaker 1: that you call it her work friend. That's her fucking friend, nigga,

897
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: that you don't get to take that from her because

898
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: you're mad, and she could be traumatized to see her

899
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: friend be violently attacked in front of everybody at this

900
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: function that everyone was watching.

901
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 2: In the world.

902
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: She can have concerned about it. She was being interviewed

903
00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: and got asked about it. She didn't just wake up

904
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: and start talking about it. She actually doesn't have post

905
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: on her ig talking about it like hey, look they

906
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 1: slapped Chris. She got asked about it. She gave her

907
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: fucking opinion what she's allowed to do, right. But because

908
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: we have to play the Trauma Olympics, the pyramid of trauma,

909
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 1: you have to erase every intersection of her as a

910
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: human so you can hold yourself up and be like, no,

911
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: I'm the real victim of trauma here because she didn't

912
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: do blank and then you made up a fake ass

913
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: game of she didn't hop through these hoops and that's

914
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: why I'm allowed to talk about her like this. Well,

915
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: you're fucking wrong. Number one, she didn't. She she did

916
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,879
Speaker 1: do those things. You didn't go check the c because

917
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: you really don't give a fuck, because if you cared,

918
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: you would at least did a cursory looker like, oh, well,

919
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: I guess I can't use that against her. She did

920
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,240
Speaker 1: sneak up for those issues.

921
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 2: So you really don't care.

922
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: What you wanted to do was find a way to

923
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: dismiss her humanity so you could then demigod her as

924
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:03,959
Speaker 1: some sort of evil ass person that that hates black people.

925
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 2: And and and.

926
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: And that's what the Will Smith slap became for so

927
00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 1: many people.

928
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 2: You work backwards.

929
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: You like the fact that he smacked that person, and

930
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: then you threw your own integrity out of the window

931
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 1: so that you could support it. So every time someone

932
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: talks about being anti whatever the fuck, being pro whatever

933
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: the fuck, you're just throwing that all out because you

934
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: just need to hate in this moment that much that

935
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: you don't give a fuck about context. And that is

936
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: the opposite of what we do on this podcast. So

937
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: it's like a waste of our time and a waste

938
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: of yours. Only thing I like about this is good

939
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,879
Speaker 1: to illustrate our point, which is this is how people

940
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 1: are acting out here.

941
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: And it sounds fucking crazy.

942
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 3: Yes it does.

943
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense like she's no longer Wanda psychs

944
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 1: because you decided she didn't agree with you on this

945
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: one fucking topic. And it's not even about disagreement. All

946
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: she said was it was traumatic to see my friend

947
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: get hurt. Which let's talk about the ultimate amount of

948
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: irony in that. Because Will Smith had a trauma response

949
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: based on seeing his mother be accosted by his father.

950
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: And I don't know how many times he alludes to it,

951
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: but I know he always talks.

952
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 2: About one incident.

953
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: In particular, it's sold the trauma of that one incident

954
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: stuck with this man to adulthood, to where someone says

955
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: something about his wife and he went on stage and

956
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: attacked that person. So his trauma can last him fifty

957
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: fucking years. And we are trying to exonerate it in

958
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: hindsight because we love his movies and him and his

959
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: image so much, or we want him to be this

960
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: icon that stands in place for our value system about

961
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: how we feel about protecting black women and stuff.

962
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: We want to fan cast him into somebody that.

963
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 1: He may or may not really be, because I believe

964
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: that's a trauma response. I think, well, that's what we're

965
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 1: gonna end up hearing. But we'll find out when he

966
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: speaks on it. But I got a feeling that it

967
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: wasn't about just protecting all black women. Tiviny Hadish had

968
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: a bald head. He wasn't protecting her that night, you know.

969
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: So I find that to be interesting Number one, that

970
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: his trauma gets to last that long, but too, to

971
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: erase this woman's intersectionality, to erase her voice, all in

972
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 1: pursuit of protecting black women. That is disgusting, This thing

973
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: where we're kicking people out of blackness and shit because

974
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: we just couldn't agree on one thing or.

975
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: Some shit and it's a slap.

976
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 1: It's not even some consequential issue about someone with humanity.

977
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: She a black queer woman, said, I thought it was

978
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: traumatic to see those two people involved in that altercation,

979
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: my friend get his slap, and also, like Will Smith

980
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 1: is a person that she knows too, She's like, it's

981
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: fucking sucks. He sat there like an asshole for the

982
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 1: next hour and having it one award, like he should

983
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: have been kicked out.

984
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that's a crazy thing you've her to think.

985
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: But when you be in these online circle so hard,

986
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,760
Speaker 1: you have to arrive at certain conclusions or you're ousted,

987
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: or you're not in the group anymore. You're not cool,

988
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 1: you're not popular. So of course it starts to sound

989
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:20,280
Speaker 1: reasonable when everyone around you was saying to me something

990
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,439
Speaker 1: that's kind of unreasonable. The same thing over for Amy

991
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: Schumer too, like these people are fucking stupid. I don't

992
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: fuck with them, and they're ridiculous. Oh, you wasn't traumatized

993
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: when how do you fucking sound that sounds ridiculous? Uh,

994
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 1: you wasn't traumatized when this happened. You don't even know

995
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: that they and like and once again, everyone we're talking

996
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: mom got interviewed. The headlines make it sound like they

997
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 1: just woke up that morning and said I'm traumatized. Every

998
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: last one of them got interviewed and asked about it,

999
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: and every last one of them that were like, yeah, man,

1000
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: it was fucked up. Wow, Uh what about that time?

1001
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: That's what the fuck y'all sound like. You sound like

1002
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,279
Speaker 1: people that make excuses for abusive people. Really, that's what

1003
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: you sound like. You know, even when it was like

1004
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,399
Speaker 1: people saying it reminded me of my abuser. To see

1005
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 1: someone walk up there and get slapped like that, that

1006
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: reminded it took me to a place when I got slap. Wow.

1007
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: See y'all be talking about this. Meanwhile, every fucking video,

1008
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 1: TV show, viral clip word reminds y'all of trauma and

1009
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 1: some shit and allows y'all to be the most ruthless,

1010
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: attack prone ass niggas out here, to be the most unforgiving,

1011
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: harassing pack of people out here. Every time y'all are

1012
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: quote unquote triggered by anything, y'all go on to tack

1013
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: mode and that and y'all saw that in Will Smith,

1014
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: And I think that's really what the shit is about,

1015
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: is some sort of like, man, this is this is

1016
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: what I want to be able to do. Mh that

1017
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,319
Speaker 1: like it's gotta be because nothing nothing else makes Since

1018
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: it's been weeks since that May and Mama, since that

1019
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: man smack that dude, and y'all mad that she said, Yo,

1020
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: it fucked me up? Well no, well she must not.

1021
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: She must hate black people. What she I bess, she

1022
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 1: ain't say nothing about what what are you talking about?

1023
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: What they got to do with this? Even if she

1024
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: would have not posted any of that shit, you still wrong.

1025
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: You still fucked up for that attitude. It's a funky

1026
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: ass attitude now let's get to the rest of it. Also,

1027
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: with the Kendrick Lamar song Auntie Diaries, I see where

1028
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: he was coming from, but he shouldn't have had to

1029
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 1: dead name its gender say the f slur to get

1030
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,760
Speaker 1: this point across. That's like if a white rapper raps

1031
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: about how he's saying how racist he was, and he says, nigga, nigga, nigga. Look,

1032
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: I used to say nigga, but I was so wrong.

1033
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said it in the past, but I'm

1034
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: gonna say it now in this song to show that

1035
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: it's wrong. A lot of black trans people and other

1036
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 1: black LGBTQ plus people, including myself, find it it's a

1037
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: bit unsettling and we should have a say since it

1038
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: was about us. I've seen a lot of cis had

1039
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: people gaslighting us saying, well, look he acknowledge y'all, so

1040
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,839
Speaker 1: y'all be happy you was mentioned on how bad we treated.

1041
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 2: You f slur, so be happy f slur.

1042
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 1: Well, look that's how they talking to y'all, and they're

1043
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: wrong for that shit too, because that is the opposite

1044
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 1: of the point of the song. I agree, honestly to

1045
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: arrive at that conclusion from the song. If that's a

1046
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: real thing that's happening, those people is funny. Those are

1047
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:18,280
Speaker 1: the people that Kendrick is talking about. I haven't seen

1048
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: that response from anybody, so I can't speak to your experience.

1049
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 1: Maybe you're having a different one than me, and that's fine.

1050
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 1: I haven't seen anybody go yeah, that song means it's

1051
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: okay to say that word. And the more I listen

1052
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: to it, the more I have a the more I

1053
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: really respect the premise, and especially with the fact that

1054
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: I am a black person that I don't mind if

1055
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: a white artist uses the N word in a way

1056
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,959
Speaker 1: that makes sense, in a way that communicates a point.

1057
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't get offended by that. Now. I know there

1058
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: are some black people that do, but I don't know.

1059
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: You listen to the show enough, you know I'm not

1060
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: one of them. You know. I'll go see a Tarantino movie.

1061
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: I'll go see a movie. I'll see all these movies

1062
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: based on race, whether there's a right director or not.

1063
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: If they're good, they're good. That's all I got for you.

1064
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: Like it, don't bother me, and so so on a

1065
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: personal level, I disagree with the premise of you can't

1066
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 1: No one should even say it no matter what I don't.

1067
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't even agree with that. Sometimes to illustrate the point,

1068
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:27,399
Speaker 1: you gotta say it too. The thoughtfulness that he said

1069
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: it with in this in this album and this song,

1070
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: I like I said, I get the people that have

1071
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: a zero tolerance for it, not even bothered by it.

1072
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: I will never tell you your experiences and whatever your experience is,

1073
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: or that you have to like it, that there's a

1074
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,799
Speaker 1: ton of shit I don't like for whatever reason. But

1075
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: the way he orchestrated it, where he basically takes himself

1076
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: back to the age when he was saying it, when

1077
00:54:55,160 --> 00:55:00,800
Speaker 1: he was a kid, and illustrates basically the difference between

1078
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: now and then, Like when I was a kid, I

1079
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: thought it was harmless, and then he deconstructs that to like,

1080
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: it's not harmless. But when he when he uh, when

1081
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: he breaks it down from like how he felt about

1082
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: his trans I guess uncle, I'm not sure what the

1083
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: terminology how the terminology shifts from that, But when he

1084
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 1: talked about his trans uncle, and when he talked about

1085
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: his trans cousin the way that he's rapping is first person.

1086
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,760
Speaker 1: This is how we talked at I was in third grade.

1087
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: I was in middle school. Now I'm a grown ass man.

1088
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: And there's this line at the end that he says,

1089
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 1: when I dropped them F bombs, And I said, oh,

1090
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:46,720
Speaker 1: that's there, you go he's saying, because that's him today,

1091
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 1: being like when I dropped them F bombs, he not

1092
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: saying it no more. So that was to me, that's

1093
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: what that meant. Maybe he'll explain it differently. And then

1094
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: he said, and then the next time he quotes it,

1095
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 1: it is his, his trans cousin who was saying it.

1096
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: And of course to me, the drawn bop it the

1097
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: bomb drop at the end is you could say it

1098
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: if you let that white girl say nigga. And to me,

1099
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: that's something I've said on the show before about how

1100
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,200
Speaker 1: I've never been gay, but I relate to a lot

1101
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: of stuff through the prism of race.

1102
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1103
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't like when white people just say nigga all

1104
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: the time, you know, for no reason, like just there's

1105
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,919
Speaker 1: no artistic values, just a I say nigga because black

1106
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: people say nigga. To me, that's different than different using

1107
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: a movie or a poem or or some type of

1108
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: to make some type of sense or something. So you know,

1109
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 1: and y'all probably had those homeboys or homegirls that try

1110
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 1: to say it because they heard it in a rap

1111
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,280
Speaker 1: song or they think it's cool to sound like black people.

1112
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: And when he said yeah, I realized I wasn't cool

1113
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: with that, So why would someone be cool with me?

1114
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,280
Speaker 1: Saying the F word to them made a lot of sense,

1115
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: And I don't think it was meant to reach the choir.

1116
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: I think all of us over here that read all

1117
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 1: the books or that are up on the slang and

1118
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: the terminology and trying to be inclusive and build these

1119
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 1: spaces like that, we don't need this song in that way.

1120
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: It's not a song for us. It's a song from

1121
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: my homeboys, who I know and talk to and see

1122
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: and have had conversations with that really won't be reached

1123
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: unless some nigga they think is cool is out here

1124
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,440
Speaker 1: being like, yeah, we need we off that.

1125
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also everybody not woke, and a lot of people.

1126
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 4: They don't have the compassion and understanding to realize.

1127
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: For some people, you got to keep it playing. They're

1128
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 3: not in all these circles.

1129
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 4: They're not up on whatever the new terminology and the

1130
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 4: slang is and all that stuff. They're just not there.

1131
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: But what they will do is this Ennick, Kendrick and

1132
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 4: think twice. And the thing is you want these people

1133
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 4: to be reached. They might not be reached through you,

1134
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 4: they might not be reached through us, but Kendrick has

1135
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 4: a voice and they might be reached through him because

1136
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 4: the end of the day, you won't the change the

1137
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 4: messenger is a you know, to me, it doesn't matter

1138
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 4: as long as the messenger isn't like coming out here attacking.

1139
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with them.

1140
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's not for us to decide for them,

1141
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, I feel you. I think this is one

1142
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 1: of the problems I have with just Internet in general,

1143
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: because everything became so black and white and it's like

1144
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: a gotcha, It's like an equation they put you through.

1145
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: And the whole point of that thing I was trying

1146
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: to explain was human beings aren't equations. What Kendrick reminds

1147
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: me of is a place where he's thirty four. He's

1148
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: in a place where I was at it say, like

1149
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: thirty years old as a strait since had Black Man,

1150
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: where I was awakening to some of these ideas I

1151
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: was coming out like because it hadn't been my experience.

1152
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 1: I hadn't even thought about it, and I had been

1153
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: raised and as every person in America, I've been raised

1154
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: in condition in a world that was like we hate

1155
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 1: queer people. The idea of transgender was not even a

1156
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 1: concept I had at that age, like no, and I'm

1157
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: a grown ass man. No one had talked to me

1158
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: about it. I didn't learn about it in school, didn't

1159
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: learn about it in college, had not met someone that

1160
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: was trans. It was literally a zero I at that time,

1161
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,320
Speaker 1: and the only reason the word and I have to

1162
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: really because there's no I don't know there's another way,

1163
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: but the slur you know, for a transsexual person or

1164
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,720
Speaker 1: as they would say, transvansdite, which I don't know if

1165
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: that's even a slur right now because that, you know,

1166
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how people of terminology. But that was

1167
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: what people meant when they said like trans or tranee

1168
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 1: as people would say, That's what they meant at the time,

1169
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 1: was that they didn't even think of it wasn't transgender

1170
00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: at the time. They were like, that's what they meant,

1171
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 1: and they said it it could be on TV. It

1172
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: wasn't even beated out if you put it on like MTV.

1173
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: It wasn't even beat out because literally the mainstream world

1174
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 1: was that fucking asleep at the wheel, and that was

1175
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,000
Speaker 1: the world I'm born into the world that I'm trying

1176
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: to do this. And I didn't even have as bad

1177
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: as Kendrick because Kendrick came from like some church shit too,

1178
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: which I ain't have nothing done of that religionshit really

1179
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: rubbed off on me that way. So what you're hearing

1180
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: in that song is a person unworking it. And while

1181
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:34,120
Speaker 1: you may be like, that's good for your privileged ass

1182
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,480
Speaker 1: to be able to unwork it, totally get it. Same

1183
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: thing happened with ja Z dropped four forty four. It

1184
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 1: ain't every out main for everybody. Dang, you know, the

1185
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 1: message ain't for everybody. Some motherfuckers already heard it the

1186
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: same way. LGBTQ people ain't a monol lift. There's a

1187
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:50,920
Speaker 1: bunch of LGBTQ people like, yo, I love this song. Finally,

1188
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: one of these fucking cool rappers that always try to

1189
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,919
Speaker 1: act like we don't exist or just hops on top

1190
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: of us and goes, I am gonna say the F word.

1191
01:00:58,600 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 2: J'all ain't gonna censor me.

1192
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: Finally one of them said, actually, it's not cool, and

1193
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: it came from an empathic place, in a real place

1194
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: that went all the way back to their childhood and

1195
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 1: was very revealing.

1196
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: That's something to a lot of people.

1197
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 1: That matters. It doesn't have to matter to you. And

1198
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: obviously you're writing from your perspective, but it's interesting. You're

1199
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: the same person that erased all of Wanda Sykes's lgbtwo

1200
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,400
Speaker 1: Q noess a lesson a paragraph ago in order to

1201
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: slam her because you didn't agree with her, and then

1202
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: in this case, Kendrick is now this terrible you know

1203
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: that's made this bad decision. But yeah, it's just all

1204
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I see the thing about the song

1205
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: that the Merit to Me is about in the album, basically,

1206
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 1: it is about a person in the process of change.

1207
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: It's not about unlike his other albums, which came from

1208
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 1: a like moralistic place of superiority where he's raining down

1209
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 1: on everybody else, like do this, do this, This is

1210
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: what we need to do in the neighborhood, This is

1211
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 1: what we need to do in our relationships. This is

1212
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 1: this album going. Actually, guys, I don't know, I'm not perfect.

1213
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: I haven't thought of everything and go on without me,

1214
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, like Mother Sobers and Mirror are basically songs

1215
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: that say and Savior are basically songs that say, y'all

1216
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 1: can go ahead and move on without me, because I'm

1217
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:25,280
Speaker 1: not in the place that y'all are with just life

1218
01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 1: and your and your vision and I'm waiting on me

1219
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,320
Speaker 1: is not worth it. In a way, it's kind of

1220
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 1: a sad album, but it's kind of liberating because I

1221
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: think more people need that realization about self work, and

1222
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 1: then we'll be less adamant to take it out on

1223
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,959
Speaker 1: everybody else, right cause it's like I'm working, I'm worried

1224
01:02:47,960 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 1: about getting myself right, not judging balls and strikes on

1225
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 1: the world. So anyway, that's what I took from it.

1226
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: But at the same time, that's not to say that's

1227
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 1: what you need to take from it, or that your

1228
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 1: experiences and dada day. But we do our podcast, we

1229
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: will ask how we feel about it. That's what we're

1230
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: gonna talk about. Uh, it's mediocre, lazy, backhanded. I get

1231
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: that sometimes worldly things could cause people to disengage. The

1232
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: rap slash ship hop has always been cleverly done that

1233
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,760
Speaker 1: have people to think by using wordplay that shouldn't be

1234
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: an excuse to be disrespectful towards the community as to

1235
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: hear every day. Yeah, that's like I said, that's I

1236
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 1: think you if anything, this whole post is proven that

1237
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: you like to see the worst thing people that come

1238
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 1: from that angle and assume that they were being malevolent

1239
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: or something, and uh that that's just not my vibe.

1240
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm gonna need a little more evidence to assume

1241
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: that you know, these people are being lazy, mediocre. I

1242
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 1: thought it was a very thoughtful statement that will reach

1243
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: people that you will never be able to reach, and

1244
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:52,840
Speaker 1: that I will never be able to reach, you know,

1245
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: And anybody that's had these conversations and lived it understands,

1246
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: you know, like it's like it's like when I see

1247
01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 1: this happen all the time in the activist space, people

1248
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 1: get mad at these white activists that teach white people

1249
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:08,440
Speaker 1: not to be racist and I and for years I've

1250
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,720
Speaker 1: been like, why y'all mad at them? What's the alternative?

1251
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 1: Because they bring your black and ass and that the

1252
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: white people gonna get up and leave, They're not gonna

1253
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: listen to you, So do you is the goal to

1254
01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: reach the people or is the goal for your ego

1255
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: to be inflated. Difference is the goal for you to

1256
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 1: get the money to just say that I want the money,

1257
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 1: and I don't care if these white people to get

1258
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: reached or not. I don't care about making the world

1259
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: a better place. I want to make my bank account

1260
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 1: a bigger place. And I'm like, cool, I get you,

1261
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:36,959
Speaker 1: but this whole I just want to reach out to people.

1262
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 1: We need to be teaching this, but I don't want

1263
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: this white man being the void of the profit off

1264
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 1: of it. Well, they were gonna walk out the room,

1265
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:48,960
Speaker 1: So what are we gonna do now? That means So

1266
01:04:49,080 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: I think that's what this Kendrick shit is there's a

1267
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: bunch of ignorant ass niggas that listen to Kendrick kind

1268
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: of hole teppy ass niggas that have been told the

1269
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 1: opposite message of this song for their entire lives. And

1270
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: this will shock some of them into thinking. I'm not

1271
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: saying it's gonna save on change on some of them.

1272
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 1: Some percentage of them will be like I had never

1273
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: fucking thought about it like that. We used to get

1274
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 1: this feedback on the show all the time, and just

1275
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: full transparency. I remember when we first started this show,

1276
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: like I said, I was not that far removed from

1277
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: Kendrick's thinking of like, listen, I don't care who you fuck,

1278
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 1: I who you married ain't. If it's not my genitals,

1279
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: it's not my business. And eventually over time I was like, well,

1280
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: what kind of support is that? No, I actually do

1281
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: want you to have marriage equality. I like, and it's

1282
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: not because I don't care. It's because I do care,

1283
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: because you're a human being and so but it was

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01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: a process. If you would have listened to episode one,

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Speaker 1: you'd be like, fuck riding them, I ain't listening shit.

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Speaker 2: And that's fine.

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Speaker 1: We probably did lose listeners at that time because we

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01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:57,160
Speaker 1: weren't woke enough or you know whatever enough for them.

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01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: That's fine. Maybe Kendrick's not enough for you at this moment.

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01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: But but the matter of the proof and the putting

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01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:09,640
Speaker 1: is this. I got to where I'm at now and

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01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,360
Speaker 1: hopefully I'll get even further in the future, because it's

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01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: not a human being, is not just a physical construct.

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01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,520
Speaker 1: It is not a set of parameters. It is a

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01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: variable that's constantly in flux. And I think these type

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Speaker 1: of thoughtful statements that make people pause and think that

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01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 1: hadn't been before are the things that reached people. I

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01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: remember one time this woman insulted the show. She didn't

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01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 1: even mean to, but she insulted our podcast because we

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01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: were talking on Twitter and it was like, people aren't

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01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 1: being reached with such and such topic. And I said, well,

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01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: you know, I've had people on the podcast, like fans

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01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: that talk to us and would come up and thank

1304
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: us and be like, I learned a lot because of

1305
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: your show. And I learned a lot about this area

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01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 1: of thinking. And she and she basically dismissed it like

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01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: that didn't happen. And you know, I didn't get an

1308
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: attitude with her. I just you know, I just okay, cool.

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01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: But the point being we did do that. So it

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01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:17,120
Speaker 1: was proof positive that she couldn't she could even imagine

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01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: a world where she reached people that we were reaching

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01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,080
Speaker 1: because to her it was pointless. So she had given up.

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01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,439
Speaker 1: And maybe it was they needed to hear it from

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01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:31,880
Speaker 1: our southern HBCU asses or something. Maybe they need to

1315
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 1: hear hear it with a little more cussing involved. Maybe

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01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: they need to hear from somebody say that any word.

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01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't know, but for some reason we reached some people,

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01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: but we ain't reaching everybody. It's somebody listening to sound

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01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: on my voice right now that got the ability to

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01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: reach the next person, and I don't have it. And

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Speaker 1: I think that's what I appreciate, because it's work that

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01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:56,000
Speaker 1: everyone needs to do. And I hope and pray it's

1323
01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 1: not a fucking stop for Kendrick. I hope this is

1324
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: the journey that I was on. I remember I used

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01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: to say the F word on this show, not in

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01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: a joking manner as a punchline, but I used to

1327
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,600
Speaker 1: say it cause I was like, I don't this person

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01:08:08,640 --> 01:08:10,120
Speaker 1: said the F word, and I'm quoting them, and I

1329
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: don't want to take the punch out of what they

1330
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 1: said because they said that shit and they deserve to

1331
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: be like they the one said it.

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Speaker 2: We should be mad at them, you know. I just remember,

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01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

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01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't like an email if no one called me out,

1335
01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't like an argument. I just remember thinking one day,

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01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,840
Speaker 1: like I think I can convey that without saying it,

1337
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:33,680
Speaker 1: and that was it. That was the last time I

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01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 1: said it period, even as a quote. And I think,

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01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: you know, I know other people that feel differently. I

1340
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: listened to podcasts, so they feel differently and they're not

1341
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,400
Speaker 1: saying it in a homophobic way quote unquote, but they're

1342
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: still feeling like, I'm gonna say this because it's some

1343
01:08:47,320 --> 01:08:48,280
Speaker 1: type of bold stance.

1344
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: They're on their journey.

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01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: I can only speak on my own journey as far

1346
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,679
Speaker 1: as where I'm going, But when I see that reflection

1347
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: of other people, I hope they're on the same path

1348
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,280
Speaker 1: that I was on. To one day, I was like, nah,

1349
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't need to say that.

1350
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:05,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also I really do hope that.

1351
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:09,600
Speaker 4: And I know I've grown in this area too, that

1352
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 4: people really have compassion to other people on where they

1353
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:13,759
Speaker 4: are at this moment.

1354
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 1: And so many people they.

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01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,240
Speaker 4: Demand the finished product at all times, and you're talking

1356
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 4: about people.

1357
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 3: People are not a never of your finished product.

1358
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 4: When you die, that's when you're finished product. Until then,

1359
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:31,760
Speaker 4: you are consistently a work in process. And that's very

1360
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:35,719
Speaker 4: very hard, particularly people online to understand. If you say

1361
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 4: something or you do something and it's not woke and

1362
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,120
Speaker 4: it's not sharp, and it's not on point, and you

1363
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 4: don't use you're not for capulations. You know, your quote

1364
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 4: unquote uneducated, whatever it is, it may be. People have

1365
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,120
Speaker 4: a tendency to be like fuck that and fuck you.

1366
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 4: And if people these same people turn around looking their lives,

1367
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 4: you have made mistakes in your life. You will not

1368
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 4: always wo in your own life. Even people that's LGBTQ,

1369
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 4: a lot of them grew up with the same backgrounds

1370
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 4: that a lot of us grew up in a lot

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01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:10,439
Speaker 4: of self hatred and using these words in these terms

1372
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 4: and things like that, not knowing and or understanding how

1373
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 4: to identify themselves because the words we.

1374
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,479
Speaker 3: Have now we did not have back then.

1375
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,760
Speaker 4: And so that's one of those things to where you know,

1376
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 4: people are really really quick to just it ain't perfect,

1377
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 4: So just burn it all to the ground and destroyed

1378
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:32,439
Speaker 4: it and point out all its flaws and tell everybody

1379
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 4: how it's wrong, you know, and then that like the

1380
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,519
Speaker 4: target that you're targeting with this is just supposed to

1381
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 4: stand there and take it because you are the marginalized group.

1382
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I recommend again.

1383
01:10:46,479 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 1: I know it might not hit most of y'all, but

1384
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:52,599
Speaker 1: conflict is not abused. Sarah Schauvan changed my life. Changed

1385
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,000
Speaker 1: all the way I see these conversations, change the amount

1386
01:10:55,040 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: of tolerance and forgiveness I have for people, changed the

1387
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: way I felt about myself. You know, this album, I

1388
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: think people missing the point trying to consume it very

1389
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: quickly and move around. There's a lot of UH lyrics

1390
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: on here that address the things people are saying. And

1391
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 1: you know, I think you know, when he talks about UH,

1392
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:22,960
Speaker 1: I think it's worldwide steppers. When he says I'm a killer,

1393
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,639
Speaker 1: He's a killer, She's a killer bitch, And he gets

1394
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,880
Speaker 1: to that point where he's ted germaphobic head, a role

1395
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:32,400
Speaker 1: in homophobic photoshop, and lives of motives. Like he's talking

1396
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: about the world we're raised in and the attitude and

1397
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: the mentality we have. So he's even saying, like, yo,

1398
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: we're we're raised to be fucked up like this. You

1399
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: know that the part in I think it's crowned when

1400
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,559
Speaker 1: he talks about how he can't please everybody, you know,

1401
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 1: and you know, talks about his own anxiety and fear

1402
01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 1: to be honest and open with people because he knows

1403
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 1: he's gonna be judged. That ship is real and I

1404
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 1: think somebody that has lived with that that anxiety, Oh,

1405
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,599
Speaker 1: I gotta said the perfect thing. I gotta I want

1406
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 1: everyone to say I'm a good boy. I want everybody

1407
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: pat myself on the back. It's fake because that's not

1408
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:15,000
Speaker 1: the real you. The real you is a little bit ugly. Look,

1409
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,800
Speaker 1: the real you doesn't understand everything all the time. The

1410
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:22,599
Speaker 1: real you needs time, needs face, has boundaries, stuff like that.

1411
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 1: And I think a lot of us have become so

1412
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: performative online we've missed out on the real US when

1413
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: it comes to these type of discussions and conversations like

1414
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 1: the real US ain't really real.

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01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,000
Speaker 4: No more no no, And on line or rewards you

1416
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 4: for the fake version of yourself, and people want they

1417
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 4: make that either you're rewarded for the not really you

1418
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 4: version and you're not rewarded for the you version because

1419
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 4: there are people on because everybody assumes everybody fake because

1420
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,559
Speaker 4: they're fake. So when you do have people and you're like, nah,

1421
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:56,720
Speaker 4: this is my opinion, everybody act like there's something wrong

1422
01:12:56,760 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 4: with you for actually.

1423
01:12:58,000 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 3: Stating your how dare you state how you really feel?

1424
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,719
Speaker 3: Dak like you have a committed a crime or line because.

1425
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 4: You actually believe the words that are coming out of

1426
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,120
Speaker 4: your mouth and you would understand by them.

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01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: Well, it's not even just to me, it's not just

1428
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: about being honest though, because I do recognize some people

1429
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: are honestly big at it. Agree, some people are honestly racist.

1430
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:20,639
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about that, and I want to big

1431
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:23,400
Speaker 1: that distinction clear, because if you start getting too loose

1432
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: with the word and it starts sounding like that's okay. No,

1433
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is there's a range of spectrum within

1434
01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 1: people that are good people who just don't get it

1435
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 1: either yet they don't get it completely, or they get

1436
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:41,280
Speaker 1: it but they don't have the right words, which is

1437
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,400
Speaker 1: the point I think Kendrick was trying to make on

1438
01:13:43,439 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: that song, but and really on this album was not

1439
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: having the right words for everything in the perfect moment

1440
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: and the perfect slam dunk and is that okay?

1441
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:52,840
Speaker 3: You know?

1442
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: And he was betting that a lot of us can

1443
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: relate to not getting it right the same way you

1444
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,800
Speaker 1: didn't get it right with Wan Deacon. To me, I'm

1445
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:04,240
Speaker 1: not gonna say, hey, don't write into my show no more.

1446
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:05,960
Speaker 1: I'm tired of your shit. What the fuck?

1447
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, you're human.

1448
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: You wanted to believe something, so then you went with

1449
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: the things that you wanted to believe, which is that

1450
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 1: she must not be shit, because that's the only way

1451
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 1: you can make it fit to be to turn on

1452
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:22,839
Speaker 1: her in that way so you could erase her trauma,

1453
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 1: because in your mind there's a trauma hierarchy on who

1454
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 1: and who gets to be traumatized is also a hierarchy.

1455
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:33,040
Speaker 1: It's a privilege to a lot of people because we've

1456
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 1: turned victimhood and traumatization into a type of economy online.

1457
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: And I don't mean that in the right wing way.

1458
01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,480
Speaker 1: I just mean that in the way we are structuring

1459
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 1: social hierarchy online in left leaning spaces, in liberal spaces.

1460
01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:50,600
Speaker 1: It is very much like if I am tat traumatized,

1461
01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 1: or I say I am, I get to dictate for

1462
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 1: everyone else. And that is unfeasible because anyone that has

1463
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: actually been the therapy, actually done this work therapist's job,

1464
01:15:00,800 --> 01:15:03,400
Speaker 1: will tell you this fake shit you see online is bullshit.

1465
01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:05,760
Speaker 1: The therapist is gonna tell you how to cope and

1466
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:09,680
Speaker 1: deal with a world that is not cut out for

1467
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: dealing with you gently all the time.

1468
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 2: They're gonna give you the tools.

1469
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 1: They're not gonna say like this fake shit you see

1470
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:22,960
Speaker 1: online where it's like I told my therapist that the

1471
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:26,200
Speaker 1: teacher told me they didn't care if I was sad,

1472
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:30,040
Speaker 1: turned in my homework on time, And the therapist is

1473
01:15:30,040 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 1: not gonna go, well, yeah, go so then what happened? Yes,

1474
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 1: So then I slapped the teacher and pushed them upside

1475
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 1: the head and ran out the room. The therapist is

1476
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,599
Speaker 1: gonna say, that's terror. You shouldn't have done that, That's

1477
01:15:41,640 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 1: not right. That's not what we're teaching you here. That's

1478
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,879
Speaker 1: not what I'm gonna teach you. The thing that allows

1479
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: that to happen, and then for you to have a

1480
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,920
Speaker 1: productive moment out of that, regardless, to find a way

1481
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: to cope with that, to find a way not to

1482
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: make more destructive patterns that will then hurt you. I'm

1483
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: not gonna I'm not here to exonerate you. I'm not

1484
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: here to uplift you for being wrong. You see what

1485
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1486
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: Like they're gonna try to give you away out of that.

1487
01:16:06,720 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna say, hey, maybe you did slap them, man,

1488
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,600
Speaker 1: that's what you wanted to do. You now need to

1489
01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 1: be able to deal with the repercussions from that. So

1490
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: you did put a thing out here, which is something

1491
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: that I had to learn too. Like with this show,

1492
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: sometimes we say shit, or I make a joke or whatever,

1493
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:28,160
Speaker 1: and aack ind the day I used to really defend it, like,

1494
01:16:28,240 --> 01:16:31,840
Speaker 1: oh man, this person is like this da da da Listen,

1495
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: I'll explain it and whatever. But at the end of

1496
01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 1: the day, we released this baby out into the world,

1497
01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: and it's y'all to do it. You can take it

1498
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 1: and assume the worst of us, like you did Kendrick

1499
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:45,519
Speaker 1: and Wanda. You could take it and go I see

1500
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,360
Speaker 1: where they coming from, like most people are gonna do.

1501
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:49,280
Speaker 1: You could take it and be like, oh, these people

1502
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: are God's green, the the best people on the earth.

1503
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,519
Speaker 1: It doesn't really matter because I don't control it. After that,

1504
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 1: I learned that lesson early when I stumbled on the

1505
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: list stick Alley talking about I show, and I thank

1506
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 1: them for the gift they gave me because I used

1507
01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:05,960
Speaker 1: to be have a lot of anxiety around how people

1508
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:06,640
Speaker 1: perceive me.

1509
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,640
Speaker 2: And you see this thread and.

1510
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 1: They're talking about how we look, how we talk, and

1511
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: you know, some things I find very scathing and unfair,

1512
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:20,120
Speaker 1: you know, our voices, stuff we can't even help sometimes.

1513
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:24,400
Speaker 1: And at the same time, I said, thank y'all because

1514
01:17:24,479 --> 01:17:26,720
Speaker 1: y'all taught me to not give a fuck, because I

1515
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: used to give a fuck so hard it would bother me,

1516
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that's the point I come

1517
01:17:32,360 --> 01:17:33,960
Speaker 1: from when we talk about all this shit, and I

1518
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 1: try to keep it in mind even as we're talking

1519
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: about you. I don't want you coming home being like, man,

1520
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: they think I ain't shit, because that's not true.

1521
01:17:43,080 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 3: No, it's not.

1522
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 1: Because I've also been on that side of the fence

1523
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:48,439
Speaker 1: to where I was like zero tolerance to anything, and

1524
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,360
Speaker 1: to me that that might be how you naturally are,

1525
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 1: that wasn't it for me. That was for other people.

1526
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: I was doing that because that's never been me. I

1527
01:17:57,720 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: don't even count friendships until we have a disagree straight up,

1528
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 1: you not my friend if we ain't never, if we

1529
01:18:03,720 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 1: have never disagreed and had some conflict resolution, you still

1530
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: an acquaintance because that's not friendship. To me, friendship is

1531
01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:15,120
Speaker 1: not how you get up, it's how you get back up.

1532
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:19,240
Speaker 1: So that's that's how I measure my relationships. And this

1533
01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,560
Speaker 1: album is how you get back up album. It's a

1534
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: nigga that cheated on his wife, fucked this, fit on

1535
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:30,360
Speaker 1: his fiance, fucked his family up, had writer's block, all

1536
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: this shit, and it's how he's getting back up from that.

1537
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:35,479
Speaker 1: And I think that's valuing that because right now we're

1538
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,240
Speaker 1: in a whole fucking world of nothing but media that's

1539
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,479
Speaker 1: about being perfect and standing up already and looking down

1540
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: on everybody else. And I'll be goddamn fining tired of

1541
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 1: that shit. I'm ready for somebody to be real, because

1542
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: real shit I can relate to is yo. I used

1543
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: to think this shit was cool because I didn't know

1544
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: no better, and then I realized how it was affecting

1545
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 1: the people around me, and I stopped. That's much more

1546
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,840
Speaker 1: real than the story of these fucking grifters and shit

1547
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 1: come up all the time. I was always perfect, and

1548
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 1: I never did anything wrong, and I always said the

1549
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,760
Speaker 1: right thing. And that's why you should give them money

1550
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 1: to me anyway, your shirt's in the mail. I'll take

1551
01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: this cash and I'm out. You know, like I'm ready

1552
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 1: for some real shit. Maybe I think Kendrick's batting on

1553
01:19:13,680 --> 01:19:13,960
Speaker 1: that too.

1554
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, me too, Me too, And I am a person

1555
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,240
Speaker 4: I am always for the listen, I ain't what I

1556
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 4: used to be. I'm not perfect, but there has been

1557
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 4: some change because some people do that and there's no change,

1558
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 4: but you know, you.

1559
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 3: Can gradually see change.

1560
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:34,040
Speaker 4: And the thing is with a lot of these celebrities

1561
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 4: because we're not in their day to day lives.

1562
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:37,719
Speaker 3: We can't see these changes.

1563
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 4: But there are people around us all the time to

1564
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:41,599
Speaker 4: do some of the same things these celebrities do now

1565
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 4: on the same scale. Do you have that same smoke

1566
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:45,880
Speaker 4: for them? Do you constantly come down on them? Do

1567
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,880
Speaker 4: you constantly criticize them when you have to look them

1568
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:51,519
Speaker 4: in their eyes and see their and actually see their

1569
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 4: response to you.

1570
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:54,680
Speaker 3: For the average person to answer that that question is now.

1571
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: I remember there was a person that constantly judged celebrities

1572
01:19:58,520 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 1: mistakes and was always raising the bar in their apologies.

1573
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,160
Speaker 1: There was never an apology that was good enough. And

1574
01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: I used to be like, damn, I guess these apologies

1575
01:20:06,479 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: must be trash. They would just find a way no

1576
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: matter what the apology was. And then one day I

1577
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: looked around at their fuck ups and I realized they

1578
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: never apologized the acknowledge being wrong, and when they did

1579
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: finally acknowledge it, it would not have passed their apology test.

1580
01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 1: And I said, oh, this was always to keep us

1581
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,200
Speaker 1: from looking at you, you know. So that's what I

1582
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: think about a lot of times people go hard on celebrities.

1583
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: What is it about us in the mirror that makes

1584
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: us not want to look at ourselves, because that's the

1585
01:20:36,200 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 1: real shit, Like why are we in the Why don't

1586
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 1: we want to look at ourselves in the mirror? So

1587
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,680
Speaker 1: we spend it so much time going look over there,

1588
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,280
Speaker 1: look over there? What about over there?

1589
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:47,800
Speaker 2: There's something going on over there.

1590
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:49,919
Speaker 1: We need to take the time look in the mirrorcause

1591
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the mirrors all you got.

1592
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: That person in the mirror is really who's coming with

1593
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: you to the grave. Nobody else is going with you

1594
01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 1: when it's time. So, like, you know, I respect that shit,

1595
01:21:00,080 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 1: and you know, and also I understand it more in

1596
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: that idea of like, you know, when Kendrick says, I

1597
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:10,559
Speaker 1: choose me, I'm sorry, it's like to me, it's I'm

1598
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,439
Speaker 1: choosing to work on myself rather than you know, try

1599
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,120
Speaker 1: to save the world with my music my art, because

1600
01:21:17,160 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: I actually realized I ain't got it. I'm fucked up,

1601
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,439
Speaker 1: and I need to work on that. I fucked up.

1602
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:23,960
Speaker 1: You fucked up, hom you We're gonna be all right.

1603
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 1: Love the show. Congratulations on season two A Game Theory.

1604
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, be starting to thank you for

1605
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 1: right now. You made that a great segment I think

1606
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 1: Ergant Demon says the moment I saw this story, I

1607
01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,639
Speaker 1: thought to myself, I'm gonna be one hundred and fifty

1608
01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: six ninth nigga to send you this article about Arby's,

1609
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:42,080
Speaker 1: or just let it get to you naturally. Well, thank

1610
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,280
Speaker 1: you for letting it get to me naturally.

1611
01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 2: How was it peeing in the Jamoka Shake's.

1612
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 1: Not the worst part? Great show as always, Well, it's

1613
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 1: not the worst part because it's Arby's. Thanks and once

1614
01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: again Eve proving my Trump theory that arvey story is

1615
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,760
Speaker 1: fake news. Nice try Rod, tell me that ain't what

1616
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,760
Speaker 1: track people say. I didn't even know she wrote that.

1617
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:01,520
Speaker 1: Tell me that what people say.

1618
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 2: I'll be giving y'all niggas.

1619
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:10,599
Speaker 1: Motherfucking prophecy on this the last episode. Oh wait, and

1620
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: then also on I'm sorry on Spotify, I forgot to

1621
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: look at the poll. My bad, y'all, my bad. Let

1622
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:22,679
Speaker 1: me put like that poll back up. Do you believe

1623
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 1: Arvey's really had thirty to forty customers in one night? Yes?

1624
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:30,760
Speaker 1: If not more? Man, hell no? Karen said hell no.

1625
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: Seventy six percent say hell no, twenty four percent say

1626
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:37,920
Speaker 1: yes if not more, And it's all and it's eighteen

1627
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:43,360
Speaker 1: percent on the Spotify eighteen percent say they had thirty

1628
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:46,160
Speaker 1: to forty customers in one night, if not more. Eighty

1629
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:49,560
Speaker 1: two percent say hell no. And I think the percentages

1630
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:54,920
Speaker 1: are lower for Yes on Spotify because those people have

1631
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 1: money and they know better than spending the Army's they're spending.

1632
01:22:58,120 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 3: They're spending any money somewhere else.

1633
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,760
Speaker 1: And the Q and A was we cut Carol up,

1634
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 1: we cut Carl de Levine out of this episode, Ernest says,

1635
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:10,320
Speaker 1: recipes the buddy in the hat collateral damage. Rogers says,

1636
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: y'all ain't shit blocking out our white queens. Y'all will

1637
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:15,000
Speaker 1: be hearing from goop.

1638
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 3: Oh no, not the good people.

1639
01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:19,519
Speaker 1: MS. Bond says, it's just the interracial version of single

1640
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:22,920
Speaker 1: white female with Carol have booty cheek implants and stab

1641
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 1: party in the eye with the siletto hill Stay tuned.

1642
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,640
Speaker 1: Raphael says, just as Arby's cut his customers out of

1643
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 1: the pic, I walked by Arby's at Madison Square Park

1644
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 1: while listening to the episode The twelve Noon and it

1645
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,320
Speaker 1: was dark seats up. Roder's right, a busy tourist area NYC.

1646
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: Come on, now, I'm just how many more of these

1647
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:45,920
Speaker 1: anecdotal moments do we need to have? And the only

1648
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:48,799
Speaker 1: people that be lying about the shit be the liars

1649
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 1: that right in here every week about how Arby's is great.

1650
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: They just happen to be the only people with a

1651
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 1: four Arby's at the rest of us ain't seen not

1652
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,200
Speaker 1: a four Armies in our whole fucking life. Be the

1653
01:23:58,280 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 1: only thing open on the block, still empty as a

1654
01:24:00,240 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: ghost town. But motherfucking ev evil righting up here. Fake news, y'all.

1655
01:24:05,439 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 2: I understood a seven hour.

1656
01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 1: Line so I could get out here. Solomon says, she's

1657
01:24:11,560 --> 01:24:15,479
Speaker 1: hiding in the toilet, y'all. Mischi Wu mishi Wu says, whoo,

1658
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,360
Speaker 1: that child was working on my last nerve with her

1659
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 1: white woman Sheanenigan's wanted making a flicker in the forehead

1660
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 1: and holler shot fly and Roger says, thank you, Roger,

1661
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,160
Speaker 1: thank you for cutting her out of the episode. That's hilarious,

1662
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:31,320
Speaker 1: all right. Last episode of the the week, We talked

1663
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: to Jesse Sparks. It was a great episode about food.

1664
01:24:35,479 --> 01:24:38,719
Speaker 1: We got two comments just called a cooking progress. Tanya says,

1665
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: this was such a great episode, like a main feed.

1666
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: The blackoutips lip smacking good. Jesse was so awesome, great questions, Roder,

1667
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:47,160
Speaker 1: Karen and Rod. This is for you. I tried to

1668
01:24:47,160 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: find a full commercial that I swear I saw the

1669
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:52,599
Speaker 1: sitting in the eighties and nineties with the dude playing

1670
01:24:52,840 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 1: Sam and Dave on the microwave. But this is the

1671
01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:59,080
Speaker 1: best I could do. And oh yeah, I remember that.

1672
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:06,280
Speaker 1: Oad eve E says, I love this episode. I love

1673
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,760
Speaker 1: food talking. Jesse was such a great guest. I hope

1674
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,400
Speaker 1: you have them back and on the low, can sister

1675
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: get a recipe for slavery chicken? You just call me

1676
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,599
Speaker 1: fake news and said I lied about art.

1677
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 2: No, I'm not giving you my mama's chicken recipes.

1678
01:25:22,640 --> 01:25:26,160
Speaker 1: Wasted and smothering and horse radishes or whatever the fuck.

1679
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,320
Speaker 1: Y'all eat over there every solf. That's hilarious. Do you

1680
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 1: have a go to dish that you prepare often? Yes?

1681
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:33,240
Speaker 4: No?

1682
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 2: Or I don't cook?

1683
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,160
Speaker 1: Eighty five percent said yes, ten percent said no, and

1684
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:44,200
Speaker 1: five percent do not cook. Trying to think I have one,

1685
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like me a good spaghetti, but

1686
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:48,240
Speaker 1: you don't make it.

1687
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 2: That's not your go to dish like that you make

1688
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 2: all the time. I don't think you don't have.

1689
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,280
Speaker 1: That's not that. Whatever it is, that's not it. Well,

1690
01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 1: I can't think the last time you met a spaghetti.

1691
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: It's been a cooking used to make macaroni and cheese,

1692
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: you know, if I asked you to.

1693
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that, Yes, macaroni cheese.

1694
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 1: I don't think I have one. Maybe a breakfast sunwich.

1695
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 3: Cause you didn't really have anything you requested.

1696
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,080
Speaker 1: No, but go to this be something you cook for yourself.

1697
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:17,200
Speaker 1: It don't have to always be for somebody else. Okay,

1698
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: mine is probably a hammagg and cheese sandwich. To be

1699
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: honest with y'all, I.

1700
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 4: Know my mind recently got to be in fried grilled cheese,

1701
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 4: change my life.

1702
01:26:25,800 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one, all right. The pole do

1703
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 1: you have a go to dish? Eighty seven percent yes,

1704
01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: seven percent no, and five percent don't cook on the

1705
01:26:34,640 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: Spotify pole and then m delicious slavery chicken was the name?

1706
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 1: Chaco Bean says, nothing says delicious like struggling grease popping

1707
01:26:44,479 --> 01:26:48,400
Speaker 1: out of the pan to burn you. MS Barne says,

1708
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: your mother's dish sounds wonderful. It is wonderful. Uh. El

1709
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 1: Alex says you definitely should have named this episode of

1710
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,200
Speaker 1: Slavery Chicken. I wanted to, but I didn't want to

1711
01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: do that to Jesse, Like if it wouldn't then because

1712
01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 1: you know, algorithm wise, they looking for Jesse and then

1713
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: they see the episode is called Slavery Chicken with this

1714
01:27:09,280 --> 01:27:12,120
Speaker 1: black guy that holds some food pod, Like what is

1715
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 1: he talking about? Yeah, so I didn't want to do

1716
01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:17,160
Speaker 1: him like that, but yeah, I listen, it was either

1717
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: gonna be that. Uh and now realize I should have

1718
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 1: called it hook head, but I fucked up.

1719
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: Baby Cat says New Orleans get it right.

1720
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 1: Jesse H Kentrell says, great episode, but I'm gonna need

1721
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 1: that recipe for real, for real if the cousea's yummy

1722
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,280
Speaker 1: and my tummy, Lee says, I cooked with the time

1723
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: and money in mind, and my kids take a plaining

1724
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: it's about something I made. I just say to myself,

1725
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: just wait to y'all get grown you right leash. That's

1726
01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: what happened to me me she MoU says, I laughed

1727
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 1: so hard at this. It was the first thing about

1728
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 1: now my now ex husband made me when we were dating,

1729
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:50,320
Speaker 1: and it is one of the few things I do

1730
01:27:50,439 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 1: miss and will not eat again because triggered. Nelson says,

1731
01:27:54,320 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 1: my mom had a dish for chicken gizzards and the

1732
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: pressure cooker that she put off a white rice. Damn.

1733
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,240
Speaker 1: I was good as hell chicken gizzards.

1734
01:28:02,280 --> 01:28:04,400
Speaker 3: Wow, had that in a long time?

1735
01:28:04,479 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: I think I ever like chicken gizzards. That's that's interesting. Uh,

1736
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 1: we did have a voicemail. Let's get to that. We

1737
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 1: got one voicemail from EV. So it's probably still the

1738
01:28:13,640 --> 01:28:17,599
Speaker 1: lies and deceit. I'm in a line for Arby's right.

1739
01:28:17,479 --> 01:28:23,000
Speaker 8: Now, caring this is ev E. I'm just calling because

1740
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 8: I had tried very hard to be quiet for the

1741
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 8: last couple of weeks. It's so not to escalate this

1742
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:32,000
Speaker 8: little bit, Gootner.

1743
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: We've been doing a bad job RBS.

1744
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 8: But I can stay silent no longer because the slander

1745
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 8: will not stand. They have some meat froud. All they

1746
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 8: want to do is feed the people.

1747
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 1: And though you.

1748
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:52,800
Speaker 8: Post these little pictures of them not having lines, every

1749
01:28:52,840 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 8: time I go to RBS, there's the line.

1750
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 1: I told you.

1751
01:28:55,240 --> 01:29:00,040
Speaker 8: They're always customers there. They always serve food, and the

1752
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,960
Speaker 8: food is delicious. You should try the new chicken picking

1753
01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 8: of salad. It's it's really good. And what I hope

1754
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:13,240
Speaker 8: for you, Rod is that when the world implodes, because

1755
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,200
Speaker 8: obviously that's what the Republicans are trying to do, is

1756
01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:19,360
Speaker 8: they're they're trying to implode the country. Just like in

1757
01:29:19,439 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 8: Demolition Man, there's only going to be a restaurant left.

1758
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 8: That restaurant will be Artist so many different kinds of rbs.

1759
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 8: There's gonna be Arbi's pizza, RB sushi.

1760
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 1: Their food already good, but they gotta make ramens.

1761
01:29:39,960 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 8: But you are not allowed. And maybe think about, you know,

1762
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:49,920
Speaker 8: all the good that arbists done for this world.

1763
01:29:50,400 --> 01:29:54,240
Speaker 1: Sell to the community, giving money to the Republicans.

1764
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:56,160
Speaker 6: Stop doing that.

1765
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,679
Speaker 1: Stop selling lives bro stop selling live broke. You heard

1766
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 1: without your told you right, lie?

1767
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:03,800
Speaker 4: Lie?

1768
01:30:05,200 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: You can't argue with people that don't exist in reality,

1769
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:11,960
Speaker 1: like if you're not gonna if you're not gonna live

1770
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 1: in a world of facts, and you can just say

1771
01:30:14,080 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: call up here and say anything. Honestly, that was that

1772
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: was way more offensive than B star eighty eight comment

1773
01:30:21,240 --> 01:30:24,880
Speaker 1: B star eighty eight. I hope. I just know as

1774
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:26,840
Speaker 1: long as Eve is able to call up here and

1775
01:30:26,960 --> 01:30:30,679
Speaker 1: leave comments, you are always welcome. Don't feel don't feel

1776
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:32,640
Speaker 1: like you need to be a stranger. Just because we

1777
01:30:32,720 --> 01:30:36,800
Speaker 1: disagreed on this one time. You absolutely okay. In my book,

1778
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 1: you will never be lower than what eve E is

1779
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 1: doing every week on this show. It's disgusting. I really

1780
01:30:46,040 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 1: I feel responsible for giving her a platform. It's worse

1781
01:30:48,439 --> 01:30:51,320
Speaker 1: than having Tucker Carlson. You might have to stop taking

1782
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:52,320
Speaker 1: her emails and comments.

1783
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:52,800
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1784
01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 2: Email insanity. That fucks with us.

1785
01:30:57,640 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 1: How Rod of Karen is from Jeff the accounts of

1786
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: my hometown, NYC and the show rids righting on being

1787
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: renewed with so uplifting and positive yet another reason I

1788
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 1: love this show. Can't thank my friend for recommending you

1789
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: guys to me years back. Now, Sorry, but this shit

1790
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: could not be allowed to stand. I was the nine

1791
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: year old bringing a whip. Oh and then there's another

1792
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: one about Okay, we'll get to these stories. This is

1793
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:23,759
Speaker 1: links that basically he sent me to use on the show.

1794
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,200
Speaker 1: So thank you for both of this. Thanks Jeff in Japan,

1795
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:31,799
Speaker 1: John Wright saying more civility and alien dig picks.

1796
01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 2: Ah, you piqued my interest. You know how we.

1797
01:31:38,120 --> 01:31:43,040
Speaker 1: Feel about you have a big dick. Hey, Rod, just

1798
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: wanted to follow up on my email about civility and whiteness,

1799
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 1: because I forgot to clarify, it's not so much that

1800
01:31:47,479 --> 01:31:49,679
Speaker 1: the relationship white people have with their problematic family members

1801
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:51,720
Speaker 1: is the problem. Like you said, that dynamic exists in

1802
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,240
Speaker 1: every community and every family, and it doesn't really do

1803
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,479
Speaker 1: much damage outside the room. The real problem is that

1804
01:31:56,600 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 1: expectation of civility towards those people creates an environment where

1805
01:32:01,720 --> 01:32:04,920
Speaker 1: they're more subtle, dog whistle types of problematic shit doesn't

1806
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,640
Speaker 1: get pushed back on and ends up getting treated with legitimacy,

1807
01:32:08,920 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 1: making them more likely to be absorbed without questioning by

1808
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: the children and the family. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes,

1809
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: agree one hundred percent. So everyone will agree that grandpa's

1810
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 1: racist rants are awful, but then conversations about black on

1811
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:24,080
Speaker 1: black crime or some other racist bullshit that has just

1812
01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 1: enough in appearance of credibility to sucker most white people

1813
01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:29,600
Speaker 1: will flourished and lead kids to end up buyding to

1814
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: it and eventually voting Republican because they're afraid of critical

1815
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,160
Speaker 1: race theory. Anyways, that's my theory, so obviously not the

1816
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,080
Speaker 1: soul cause of racism and white people, but I do

1817
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,479
Speaker 1: think that our devotion this stability ends up helping the

1818
01:32:39,520 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: spread and perpetuation of isms and focus. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,

1819
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,120
Speaker 1: And I didn't need to dismiss you last week. It

1820
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:50,240
Speaker 1: is definitely a personal it's a micro and macro thing.

1821
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: I think the point I always have is that micro

1822
01:32:55,000 --> 01:32:58,680
Speaker 1: bothers me a lot less than macro. And that might

1823
01:32:58,720 --> 01:33:00,880
Speaker 1: be some gen X shit. I don't know, but I

1824
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,920
Speaker 1: do that do not bother me when it's like this

1825
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: person personally has some racial hang ups, I don't give

1826
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,639
Speaker 1: a fuck. And I feel like a lot of that

1827
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: is like I wonder if it's a wonder if it's

1828
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 1: because of social media. We've internalized it to individuals so much,

1829
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,680
Speaker 1: or think it, not internalize it, but we've epitomized it

1830
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:25,400
Speaker 1: in the individual so we could point our finger and

1831
01:33:25,479 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 1: be like, that's the bad guy.

1832
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 4: Yes, because if you have to look at it and totality,

1833
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:31,680
Speaker 4: you realize it's a big ass ocean that you have

1834
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 4: no control over, and nobody ever wants to look at

1835
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 4: look at it like that because the reality is we're

1836
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 4: all drounding in this, including white people, and they created

1837
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 4: the shit.

1838
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:42,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, you just don't have to look at yourself

1839
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: when you do it, it's like you're the bad person.

1840
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm the good person by default. But a lot of

1841
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: stuff is just a sidal mechanisms, And you know, it's

1842
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,640
Speaker 1: it's the fact that our media treats white supremacy like

1843
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: it's just an alternative lifestyle that is a choice, and

1844
01:34:00,720 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 1: it sinks into our politics and our criminal justice system

1845
01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: and our.

1846
01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:04,280
Speaker 2: Society at large.

1847
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,760
Speaker 1: On a completely other topic, the first thing that came

1848
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 1: to mind when I heard the space and new the

1849
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,280
Speaker 1: story is that somewhere someone is writing an angry think

1850
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: piece about the need for positive consent before sending dick

1851
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: pics to aliens. Ps. Here's a link to the d

1852
01:34:16,479 --> 01:34:20,240
Speaker 1: OJ grand jury for Trump's potential criminal mishandled classified records.

1853
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:23,679
Speaker 1: Stay saved, John, I do you even better not because

1854
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, I know people ain't want to read all

1855
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:30,479
Speaker 1: that DJ classified shit. In the New York Times. Check

1856
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,479
Speaker 1: out hashtag Sisters in Law. They had a really good

1857
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:38,439
Speaker 1: breakdown on what that subpoena could potentially mean and all

1858
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:42,840
Speaker 1: that stuff. So we got Trey Wright saying, Hey, Rod,

1859
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:44,280
Speaker 1: just wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed the

1860
01:34:44,280 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: conversation you and Dom had on the latest episode of

1861
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: the Mind of Don podcast. Yo, thank you, brother. I

1862
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:53,559
Speaker 1: really thought we had a good conversation. I hope people

1863
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:56,920
Speaker 1: take the time out to listen to it. It was

1864
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:00,840
Speaker 1: I don't know, it was fun, but it was also

1865
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: like kind of deep and kind of thoughtful, and I

1866
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: appreciate it, just hanging out with dom and kicking it.

1867
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:11,960
Speaker 1: You know, it's this thing, man, I'm getting older, man.

1868
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 1: And you know I said this about l Joy's husband too.

1869
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 1: Who why am I jarnda blank on his name? Fuck?

1870
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:23,719
Speaker 1: But when I met l Joy's husband for the first time,

1871
01:35:25,200 --> 01:35:26,800
Speaker 1: you know, and I told him this when I left,

1872
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:29,519
Speaker 1: and you know, I'll be tooking in the same positive

1873
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: light I'm in it in, which was, hey, man, it's

1874
01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 1: good to have a conversation with a cis head black

1875
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:36,800
Speaker 1: man and not have to feel like I gotta like,

1876
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,680
Speaker 1: you know, be like that's a damn shame, you know

1877
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:45,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Like, I love being black. I love

1878
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 1: being a black man. I love being sis head black man.

1879
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:50,600
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it. Wouldn't changing for the

1880
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:52,840
Speaker 1: world if I could be born this way again, I'd

1881
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 1: do it again in another lifetime, even with all the

1882
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 1: shit that comes with it. But one of the things

1883
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:04,840
Speaker 1: that's really different goal is finding people I can communicate

1884
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 1: with where I'm not having to constantly feel like it's

1885
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 1: a shame, you know, because this world has done so

1886
01:36:14,680 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: much to us, and we have done so much, and

1887
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 1: we've learned so much fun shit and been on the

1888
01:36:22,200 --> 01:36:25,600
Speaker 1: other side of things too, So we know both oppressing

1889
01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 1: and being oppressed. We know both sides. So to have

1890
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:31,559
Speaker 1: a conversation where you can just kind of like kick

1891
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 1: it and not be worried. And and I'm not even

1892
01:36:35,479 --> 01:36:38,559
Speaker 1: saying in a judging way, because like everyone fucks up,

1893
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:42,160
Speaker 1: everyone says things aren't articulate, But to being a place

1894
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 1: where it's like you can I can fuck up, or

1895
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,200
Speaker 1: I can say something and you take and you understand

1896
01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:51,880
Speaker 1: what I mean, and vice versa. And at the same time,

1897
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting up here worried about you just going

1898
01:36:54,439 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 1: on some Dave Chappelle jag in the middle of our conversation,

1899
01:36:57,960 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: or you know, some hatred black women showing up out

1900
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: of nowhere, or some Kevin Samuel's type love some just

1901
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, all the fucking red marks that happen every

1902
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:13,080
Speaker 1: time two straight dudes get together. Everyone's heard every podcast

1903
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:16,080
Speaker 1: with it. Uh, it was cool to have a conversation

1904
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:21,280
Speaker 1: where that wasn't what was happening is Miles. Miles, Yes, Miles.

1905
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:23,759
Speaker 1: It was such a cool dude, and I also thankful

1906
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,880
Speaker 1: to talk to him when we talk about anime and

1907
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,280
Speaker 1: a bunch of other shit. But it was just good

1908
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:30,759
Speaker 1: to talk to somebody. And I have to worry about,

1909
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,320
Speaker 1: how is this gonna be toxic? How am I? You know,

1910
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:35,680
Speaker 1: how is he gonna fuck up?

1911
01:37:35,680 --> 01:37:36,880
Speaker 2: How am I gonna fuck up?

1912
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: Or whatever? You know? Use because I am the oddball,

1913
01:37:43,760 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 1: which is, you know, one of the reasons, taking it

1914
01:37:45,720 --> 01:37:48,960
Speaker 1: full circle, one of the reasons I understand that Kendrick's

1915
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,480
Speaker 1: gonna reach people with his songs because I am the oddball.

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Speaker 1: I'm not the standard, you know, And I don't even

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Speaker 1: consider myself that fucking out there with my belief system

1918
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: and I'm at the standard. Niggas is way behind me.

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01:38:02,960 --> 01:38:06,880
Speaker 1: And even I remember at the basketball court having conversations

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01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:10,960
Speaker 1: with people and it's just almost ever it was. It was.

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Speaker 1: It would be refreshing and shocking sometimes to be talking

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Speaker 1: to somebody and they be up on things, yeah you

1923
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,160
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, like where I could be like, yeah, man,

1924
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 1: you know, Caitlyn Jenner said such and such, and they

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01:38:23,840 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: wouldn't immediately start dad naming her or misgendering her or

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01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:32,880
Speaker 1: making you know, like what it was shocking because ninety

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Speaker 1: nine percent of the time it was the other way, right,

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Speaker 1: So it's I don't know. I hope people find that

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Speaker 1: conversation as refreshing as I did talking to Dom and

1930
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Speaker 1: we got to talk about some cool and fun stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, and so I hope people enjoy it. He says, Uh,

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Speaker 1: ro do I want to recommend you consider putting that

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Speaker 1: episode up as maybe a part one for black Gutes

1934
01:38:54,360 --> 01:38:56,559
Speaker 1: Day and a part two be where you and Cary

1935
01:38:56,640 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 1: tell your story maybe. And I did to think about,

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01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,400
Speaker 1: uh maybe, because you got gave great insight into how

1937
01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:03,679
Speaker 1: you got started as well, it's how you feel about issues.

1938
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: The conbo was extremely sincere and insightful, So hughes thanks

1939
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,760
Speaker 1: to you and Don for that. Rod, Thanks Trey. I

1940
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 1: probably would never put up someone else's podcast on our feed,

1941
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:15,559
Speaker 1: just because I don't know the rules about that unless

1942
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:19,479
Speaker 1: I like ask them specifically. But I think we'll make

1943
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: Blackout to this day. It'll I think it'll work. You'll

1944
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 1: see how it goes. I think it'll be fine us

1945
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,400
Speaker 1: telling our origin story. And thanks to don for having

1946
01:39:28,439 --> 01:39:33,839
Speaker 1: me on to talk about that, because honestly, it's interesting

1947
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:36,439
Speaker 1: the podcast I get invited on, I don't get invited.

1948
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't get invited on that many podcasts when you

1949
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 1: think about it, you know, considering what we do, Like

1950
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: maybe it's like, let's talk about nerd shit, let's talk

1951
01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: about supports shit. But and I get it, man, Like,

1952
01:39:49,680 --> 01:39:52,599
Speaker 1: I'm probably not the coolest guy to talk to because

1953
01:39:52,640 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: I might fuck.

1954
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 2: Around and be like, hey man, you don't have to

1955
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:56,000
Speaker 2: use that slur.

1956
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm not the coolest dude to be inviting places because

1957
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 1: some people can't handle that conflict them. Niggas are just

1958
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 1: as sensitive as all the people they accused of.

1959
01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:07,639
Speaker 2: Being too sensitive.

1960
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Like, they don't want me around because I might be

1961
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:12,519
Speaker 1: the nigga to say the opposite or be like, but

1962
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: that is fucked up and we can be better than that.

1963
01:40:16,080 --> 01:40:17,720
Speaker 1: So that's why you ain't gonna see me on too

1964
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:20,720
Speaker 1: many people shows in general, because they don't like the

1965
01:40:20,720 --> 01:40:24,719
Speaker 1: pressure of me being there, and because I'm not gonna

1966
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,280
Speaker 1: sit there and act like it didn't happen. I'm not

1967
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,719
Speaker 1: gonna flip on you. But I'm just not the type

1968
01:40:28,760 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: to be like, well, they was just saying fucked up shit.

1969
01:40:30,920 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: I guess it's just what it is. I'm the type

1970
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:34,680
Speaker 1: to be like, you can say something fucked up, but

1971
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: here's why I disagree, and then we move on.

1972
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, And also it might sound funny, and maybe this

1973
01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:44,880
Speaker 4: is just me internalizing things sometimes. I think for a

1974
01:40:44,920 --> 01:40:52,519
Speaker 4: lot of people, I am considered. I can say it,

1975
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,280
Speaker 4: they'll invite you, and a lot of times they won't

1976
01:40:55,280 --> 01:40:59,120
Speaker 4: invite me. And sometimes I think that is because I'm

1977
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 4: just after thought sometimes or they do maybe they don't

1978
01:41:02,320 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 4: think I'm going to have something to say about it

1979
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:04,960
Speaker 4: or whatever they can.

1980
01:41:05,080 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: I think the number one thing is that you don't

1981
01:41:06,880 --> 01:41:10,720
Speaker 1: do a lot of social media, true, and so I

1982
01:41:11,080 --> 01:41:13,839
Speaker 1: like a lot of people see me on Twitter, Facebook

1983
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:16,759
Speaker 1: or whatever, Instagram, and I think that's what they because

1984
01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,240
Speaker 1: I'm always running off for my fucking mouth, which I

1985
01:41:19,439 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 1: try to do less, but I still do it. And

1986
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,479
Speaker 1: I think that's what keeps you in people's minds.

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01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,240
Speaker 2: I think that's my guest. Obviously you're a woman.

1988
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,760
Speaker 1: Obviously they're still sexism out there and all that shit.

1989
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:33,120
Speaker 1: But and then there's also the weird thing of us

1990
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 1: being married. So people feel like if I ask for Karen,

1991
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:39,320
Speaker 1: is it an insult to this man or whatever? It's like, Nigga,

1992
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,280
Speaker 1: we're co host. It's why would I ever give a

1993
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,040
Speaker 1: fuck unless you're gonna have her on the show, like,

1994
01:41:44,120 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: let me see them titties? Why would I care? Like

1995
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If it's nobody got to

1996
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,000
Speaker 1: ask me to have Justin on their show or whatever

1997
01:41:52,120 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 1: like so anyway, it could be all that stuff. I'm

1998
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: just always out there creating stuff. And sometimes you don't

1999
01:41:58,400 --> 01:41:59,360
Speaker 1: use social media.

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01:41:59,120 --> 01:42:01,759
Speaker 3: In that way and that and that's true, and that's true.

2001
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:03,560
Speaker 3: And like I said, I.

2002
01:42:03,240 --> 01:42:07,280
Speaker 4: Kind of have my reasons for why I do that,

2003
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:09,040
Speaker 4: be a good, bad, or indifferent.

2004
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not saying you should change it. It's just

2005
01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: you ask me why. I think that's why. Okay, that's

2006
01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:17,080
Speaker 1: that's but that's just a guess. Maybe they just sex

2007
01:42:17,120 --> 01:42:19,680
Speaker 1: as as fuck. We got some stuff. We got some

2008
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: stuff in the email physical mail. Let me open this up.

2009
01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:31,599
Speaker 1: I want fuck out a box or something all right

2010
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:38,160
Speaker 1: on the top, it's a box that says, mm everything

2011
01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:41,920
Speaker 1: dot Com with this beautiful art of this black woman

2012
01:42:46,920 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 1: take twenty percent off Molly makes Everything dot Com And

2013
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 1: y'all can scan that later on the thing if you

2014
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:57,080
Speaker 1: want off it.

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01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 2: Says Karen, your full government on.

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01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 3: Here, little shit.

2017
01:43:01,160 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: It's very official. The card says thank you, Karen, thank

2018
01:43:07,880 --> 01:43:10,080
Speaker 1: you for being you from Natasha.

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01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,520
Speaker 4: Oh my god, thank you.

2020
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:14,559
Speaker 3: Gonna send something.

2021
01:43:15,240 --> 01:43:18,320
Speaker 2: And are these like hair wrap things?

2022
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:21,080
Speaker 1: Yes? And then look at these colors.

2023
01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,400
Speaker 2: Okay, come on throw.

2024
01:43:26,760 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 3: Yay for my edges.

2025
01:43:30,560 --> 01:43:31,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, because somebody.

2026
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:35,880
Speaker 2: Was asking you, like silk inside, come on, throw silk inside.

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01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 1: M h.

2028
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 3: We know about them edges.

2029
01:43:39,880 --> 01:43:42,200
Speaker 1: And of course black gotta have black of.

2030
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:45,840
Speaker 4: Course, because and I think somebody asked me. They was like,

2031
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 4: I don't I don't mean to offend, but I keep by.

2032
01:43:48,439 --> 01:43:51,639
Speaker 4: I keep like a like a silk little tie thing

2033
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:54,880
Speaker 4: around my edges. And the biggest reason of why is

2034
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:56,320
Speaker 4: because of my texture hair.

2035
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:58,639
Speaker 3: I have the texture hair.

2036
01:43:59,120 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 4: Where I I found some really really good jail. It's

2037
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,240
Speaker 4: not drying jail, and it's actually jail and it actually

2038
01:44:06,280 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 4: promotes the growth through your edges. So I use that

2039
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:11,479
Speaker 4: because it doesn't it doesn't have alcohol in it.

2040
01:44:11,560 --> 01:44:14,080
Speaker 1: You know, people gonna ask what the jail is if

2041
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:16,360
Speaker 1: you know it, by the way, because you know, you

2042
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: know black women, they are always gonna be looking for

2043
01:44:20,200 --> 01:44:22,240
Speaker 1: looking for the plug. So you can't just bring it

2044
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:26,280
Speaker 1: up without letting them know what it is. Okay, all right,

2045
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:32,160
Speaker 1: we'll give care in a second. Honey, Well, I'll open

2046
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:35,920
Speaker 1: up the next one while she's gone, y'all. Stretch right,

2047
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:40,360
Speaker 1: pro stretch. Oh, it's a stretching What do you call

2048
01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 1: these things? It's like a stretching rope, stretching, physical therapy

2049
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:46,800
Speaker 1: forre body, stretch strap.

2050
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:51,400
Speaker 2: And it's from you could hold it up over there.

2051
01:44:52,160 --> 01:44:55,000
Speaker 1: It's from Veronica, Veronica pee, she said, herodic carre hoping.

2052
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 1: This stretching strap helps. Thanks for all you do for

2053
01:44:57,400 --> 01:45:01,160
Speaker 1: being you all the best, Veronica, thank you. Yeah, Karen's

2054
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:04,719
Speaker 1: gonna need this, okay. Uh, the stretching strap, it helps

2055
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: you stretched.

2056
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:09,640
Speaker 2: Oh now you know so because the way I'll be

2057
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 2: up in it, y'all.

2058
01:45:10,439 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 1: Okay, you got to get what was you gonna play here?

2059
01:45:13,439 --> 01:45:18,240
Speaker 4: You're gonna say, oh, lord sir, we are family network here.

2060
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,439
Speaker 2: Okay, we gotta keep it.

2061
01:45:20,520 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 3: PG. Thirteen.

2062
01:45:23,000 --> 01:45:27,719
Speaker 1: You got to keep it limber. Okay, what are you saying?

2063
01:45:29,439 --> 01:45:29,920
Speaker 3: It's called?

2064
01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:35,480
Speaker 4: Uh, it's called a hairline helps two in one plus

2065
01:45:35,760 --> 01:45:41,840
Speaker 4: it's a baboon and buy a team edge growth bab Boom.

2066
01:45:41,479 --> 01:45:44,880
Speaker 1: Ben boom Oh, okay, I said. If I say I

2067
01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:48,320
Speaker 1: don't think there's any black hair care product with Baboon

2068
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,880
Speaker 1: in it, I mean, I haven't looked at the bottle,

2069
01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 1: but I'm one thousand percent sure.

2070
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,000
Speaker 3: I said that correctly.

2071
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 1: That ba Boon and Viral team, they would have went

2072
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,120
Speaker 1: out of You think the honeypot woman got it bad?

2073
01:46:05,680 --> 01:46:08,840
Speaker 1: That's blasing down. Come business.

2074
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 3: Hold, I'm trying to short to y'all on line.

2075
01:46:12,439 --> 01:46:16,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know we're gonna be able to see it, baby, Okay. Yeah,

2076
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:20,519
Speaker 1: by Builing and bout ten would have been them black people.

2077
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 1: You think they was looking at them and great, they

2078
01:46:22,600 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: was looking at them ingredients hard on that motherfucking.

2079
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:29,799
Speaker 3: I'm giving them a reason to get canceled.

2080
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gonna be doing whoever made that brain gonna

2081
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:36,880
Speaker 1: be doing apology video on Instagram. First of all, this

2082
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 1: is a lie. I would never call.

2083
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:41,080
Speaker 2: Black people monkeys in any way, and there was.

2084
01:46:41,040 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 3: No bad boons in the creation of this product.

2085
01:46:43,560 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: Right, all right, y'all, that's it for today.

2086
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:47,680
Speaker 2: We'll be back tomorrow.

2087
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: We'll have gaster Almonte and lat was sharp on from

2088
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:51,880
Speaker 1: the word for it.

2089
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,240
Speaker 4: That's gonna be so much fun them too, are hilarious.

2090
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:58,640
Speaker 1: It's a bright and early show ten am est tomorrow,

2091
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 1: so you know, hopefully y'all can skip church and come

2092
01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:04,840
Speaker 1: hang out with us the Sinners, and if not, then

2093
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,639
Speaker 1: we'll see you later on in the week.

2094
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:08,320
Speaker 2: Until then, I love you, I love you too.

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Speaker 1: Wh