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Speaker 1: positions of the Washington Commanders or any of their representatives.
Speaker 2: This is the Command Center Commute Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson.
Speaker 2: This is the Mouth of the South.
Speaker 3: Frederick Smooth. I go by Frederick. Now I'd got older.
Speaker 2: It sounds very official, brother. So we're gonna start with
Speaker 2: a weekend wrap up talking about kind of the big
Speaker 2: news of the week, which is Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 3: Two hundred and fifty five million.
Speaker 2: Do you got that when you played? Though?
Speaker 3: Right, I'm not even close, not even to back money,
Speaker 3: you know, Warner back. You know, that's a different text bracket.
Speaker 3: And that's why I got my theories on. I think
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks should have their own salary, own salary. I
Speaker 3: think they should not count against the salary cap because
Speaker 3: they are independent contractors. But I think this is the
Speaker 3: new NFL when it comes to quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: And so what do you think about paying him specifically?
Speaker 2: You know that team has been built up, I think
Speaker 2: in large part because they've had a cheap quarterback. They've
Speaker 2: had a guy at a rookie deal, and now they
Speaker 2: give them all this money. Now that the contract structure
Speaker 2: is a little bit up and down, it's kind of backloaded. Whatever.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about that later. But you know, can they
Speaker 2: be successful not having that supporting cast around them.
Speaker 3: I think Philadelphia does this better than anybody. They've paid
Speaker 3: it guys a year earlier, like a year or two.
Speaker 3: They do it because think about this two hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty five million. I hate to say this quarter to
Speaker 3: a billion. It'll be cheap in three years. So this
Speaker 3: what they're playing in on. And don't forget Aj Brown
Speaker 3: already locked up Devinte Smith, steel on a rocky country
Speaker 3: and just sign a new running back and they still
Speaker 3: got numerous draft capital So at the end of the day,
Speaker 3: they are right where they want to be, in that
Speaker 3: sweet spot.
Speaker 2: It does make it a little more challenging, I think,
Speaker 2: because they have to keep kind of their you know,
Speaker 2: they have to keep hitting on the draft. You know
Speaker 2: how challenging that is. You know, like it leverages them
Speaker 2: in a different way than they've been leveraged in the past.
Speaker 2: You know, before they could go out and say, oh
Speaker 2: let's get Aj Brown, Oh let's play Peylane Johnson. Now
Speaker 2: that's a little bit more challenging, right.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit moneier. But you got to realize
Speaker 3: last year's Jordan Davis, who will be stepping in and
Speaker 3: starting row right now and knowby Dean.
Speaker 2: But they lose Hardgrave, right, this is one of the
Speaker 2: reasons you lose Hargrave, right, And who's who's maybe one
Speaker 2: of the best interior pass rushers in the NFL. Right,
Speaker 2: And that's something that I think is again, can you sustain?
Speaker 2: You see, like I go back to the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 2: when they paid Russell Wilson, that defensive roster got.
Speaker 3: It's crazy they started to deteriorate. And I totally understand.
Speaker 3: I just think Philadelphi is in a better mode. Like
Speaker 3: we just said, harg Grave leaves, Jordan Davis, the first
Speaker 3: round pick from last year steps in, so tj leaves
Speaker 3: at the middle linebacker n Kobe Dean steps in. These
Speaker 3: are guys that's been in their system for a year.
Speaker 3: So I think they the prior planning had stopped poor
Speaker 3: I guess situational planning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it also feels like doesn't feel like they
Speaker 2: kind of knew they were going to do this, like
Speaker 2: planning that far ahead. You know what I'm saying planning
Speaker 2: that far ahead, and you know they have two first
Speaker 2: round picks this year. I mean, I just the way
Speaker 2: they build a team and the way they build a
Speaker 2: roster is just incredible.
Speaker 3: I'm jealous because they did start this year saying, we're
Speaker 3: going to see if Jalen Hurts is our quarterback because
Speaker 3: we have a top ten pick and we might draft them.
Speaker 3: That's where they set themself up at.
Speaker 2: And that's a good process, though, man, Like, that's what
Speaker 2: you want to do, you know, And I think that's
Speaker 2: that's you know, I think Washington can learn a little
Speaker 2: bit from that.
Speaker 3: Ain't nothing wrong with that. Your enemies and who you
Speaker 3: do learn from.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the other thing I want to touch
Speaker 2: on is just like you know, leading into the draft
Speaker 2: for Washington, you know, you're not been talking a lot
Speaker 2: about DB's You said something absolutely insane to me earlier today,
Speaker 2: You're not as high on Witherspoon. The more and more Witherspoon,
Speaker 2: the quarterback out of Illinois.
Speaker 3: Yes, the more and more I watch him, I'm seeing
Speaker 3: a big guy that can't run, that's very physical. I'm
Speaker 3: all about ball retrieval, I'm all about thieves. I'm all
Speaker 3: about cat Burglars. I'm all about guys getting balls that
Speaker 3: don't belong to them. And if you can't do that
Speaker 3: at a high level in college, I can't expect for
Speaker 3: you to turn the page coming to the league with
Speaker 3: better quarterbacks, better wide receivers, better tight ends, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you're gonna become a thief. And then
Speaker 3: think about this, I'm all about, what do my roster
Speaker 3: look like. I have Saint Juice, I have the nullifier
Speaker 3: over there, one guy that's not going to get a
Speaker 3: lot of interceptions, but he will notify wide receiver. The
Speaker 3: other guy has to be a ball retrieval guy. Can
Speaker 3: you get that from the safeties though, Oh, you can't
Speaker 3: get that from the safe.
Speaker 2: Because when I look at with this one, I see
Speaker 2: a guy who's got great instincts. He understands concepts really well.
Speaker 2: He anticipates throws, he anticipates concepts how they're trying to
Speaker 2: take different coverages, plays with great vision. He plays physical,
Speaker 2: which is important to me, and so to me, that's
Speaker 2: all good football player, right, And then you're you're just saying, oh,
Speaker 2: he doesn't get turnovers. Turnovers are so it's so luck based,
Speaker 2: fred right, I mean, there is skill associated. But I'm saying,
Speaker 2: like a parent, tell a line. Yeah you stopped that
Speaker 2: right now? Come on, you know I'm telling the truth, Fred,
Speaker 2: because think about Emanuel Forbes. You're your best friend, yeah,
Speaker 2: your little brother.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no no no, I listen. He earned this
Speaker 3: respect for me. I don't forget. We got cam Danzel
Speaker 3: on this team who was paired up with him, and
Speaker 3: I always feel like full ups with the better guy.
Speaker 3: And it's no mistakes when it comes to turnover. Some
Speaker 3: guys just get turnover and some guys don't. And when
Speaker 3: I watch Witherspoon, I said, you know what, let me
Speaker 3: watch him play against the best group of guys. He
Speaker 3: played against Ohio State. These guys eyes. It wasn't a
Speaker 3: great game for me, but it wasn't a bad game
Speaker 3: for him. It's telling me a lot, Like he's telling
Speaker 3: me a lot about who he is and what he is.
Speaker 2: But nobody had a good game against the Oule State
Speaker 2: no corner. Really, you know what I'm saying, Like, I
Speaker 2: look at uh DJ Turner out of Michigan right and
Speaker 2: he's the guy Harrison Holy Countary receiver from Mile State.
Speaker 2: He looks like he.
Speaker 3: Played against his father, and he's bigger, strong than his father,
Speaker 3: So I understand it. So now what happens when you
Speaker 3: see a Marvin Harrison junior every week?
Speaker 2: But that's the thing, is there on Marvin Junior Harrison
Speaker 2: in the NFL every week?
Speaker 3: You know, I think, I think every team has a
Speaker 3: legit number one. Think about our team. We have three
Speaker 3: wide receivers that can pretty much beat anybody in this right.
Speaker 3: So and then I always tell people this, just because
Speaker 3: the receiver has not developed a name for himself, the
Speaker 3: last dude on your roster can really beat anybody in
Speaker 3: this world when it comes to getting open. And that's
Speaker 3: why I tell when I when I draft cornerbacks, am
Speaker 3: I bringing him into a situation where they could blossom?
Speaker 3: We play a lot of matches on I need people.
Speaker 3: It's very very good with the eye. Now, Retherspoon will
Speaker 3: fit in there when it comes to playing understanding concepts
Speaker 3: and reacted to stuff with his eyes. But at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, not the long his arms, not
Speaker 3: the guy with the highest vertical So what is he
Speaker 3: going to do when the smaller receiver started to round
Speaker 3: him up in the bigger receiver store at the body?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got me off my point anyway, Fred Jesus Man, like,
Speaker 2: so we know, you know we were talking about Manuel
Speaker 2: Forbes and turnover luck right, because when you look at
Speaker 2: Emmanuel Forbes, seven interceptions, right, I think four for touchdowns.
Speaker 3: Four you heard it.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, four for touchdowns. Some of those are tip passes,
Speaker 2: some of those are underthrown balls. Right. He's just kind
Speaker 2: of in the right place at the right time. I
Speaker 2: played with the guy in college who led the FBS
Speaker 2: and interceptions and was not a very good pro and
Speaker 2: everyone he was overdrafted because of the interception luck right,
Speaker 2: interception luck quote.
Speaker 3: You don't want to say his name.
Speaker 2: I don't remember his name. I'm gonna keep my guy.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna keep my guy out of the fire right now.
Speaker 3: Talk about this. My guy Fords played real levies, A
Speaker 3: guy that they're trying to push up is the top.
Speaker 2: You don't like Will Evis, so don't use him as
Speaker 2: an argument. Why you boys?
Speaker 3: But did you see what past he picked off a screenplay?
Speaker 3: This is a bubble screen that my guy saw, responded to,
Speaker 3: reacted to, picked off, and took sixty yards. That is
Speaker 3: not a tip ball. That's not this I replays and
Speaker 3: this is what I love by man for what he studies.
Speaker 3: He believes he trust itself.
Speaker 2: Zone player right, good without the like off vision, off coverage.
Speaker 2: But how's the ability to play man?
Speaker 3: No, No, he's a pressman, dow. He's a press man
Speaker 3: at one sixty six. Yeah, of grass blowing the wind,
Speaker 3: but they stays wrong, right all I'm telling you like this? No,
Speaker 3: come on? Have you seen him? Six 'y two. He
Speaker 3: has a wingspan of a basketball player. He loves.
Speaker 2: My son weighs more than him.
Speaker 3: Bro, Yes, your son does, but we're not taking your
Speaker 3: son in the first round this year. So at the
Speaker 3: end of the day, it doesn't matter. Listen, I told
Speaker 3: you what do I like? Anomaly? I like guys that
Speaker 3: do not fit the mold. And that's why you're a
Speaker 3: love Weatherspoon. He checks all the boxes, six feet tall,
Speaker 3: two hundred pounds, look like a football player until it's
Speaker 3: time to play football.
Speaker 2: But he he's not old. Fred Fred Fred fred Fred.
Speaker 2: He looks like a football player. He plays like a
Speaker 2: football player, And I think that's why I like that
Speaker 2: that quality a little bit more. You mentioned anomalies, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're talking about Joey Porter Jr. He might be the
Speaker 2: most anomaly guy in the class, the biggest outlier. Right,
Speaker 2: he's six 'y to two. Legitimately he's one hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety five pounds, two hundred pounds, big corner, thirty four
Speaker 2: inch arms. I think people are hyping him up big time.
Speaker 2: I think he's the pedigree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in love with his dad is pedigree.
Speaker 2: And also I think because he is an anomaly, he
Speaker 2: is an outliar. How do you think a guy like
Speaker 2: that translates?
Speaker 3: He has to go to the right place. And I
Speaker 3: hate to be a homer on this one, but he
Speaker 3: needs to go to Picksbury. I'm just telling you. He
Speaker 3: looks like a pigs about that. I would love it,
Speaker 3: But I'm just saying I don't see him working everywhere
Speaker 3: like some guys my drug and play everywhere, and some
Speaker 3: guys they need the right situation that rights like run
Speaker 3: da Boba one of my favorite corners that cover two
Speaker 3: in Temple was the right situation to make him a
Speaker 3: hall of fame. I can't say if you put him
Speaker 3: at Man and Man in Pittsbury three four that he
Speaker 3: makes it as a Hall of Famer. So I look
Speaker 3: at Joey Port and I say, is the pedigree better
Speaker 3: than the play on the field? Is it about upside
Speaker 3: that what you said upside with this kid? I need
Speaker 3: a guy that's ready to play right now in this I.
Speaker 2: Think him and Christian Zals are both upside plays, like
Speaker 2: you know, because Christian is not overly productive, not overly physical,
Speaker 2: but you see him at the combine and he moves
Speaker 2: the best to anybody in the class.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he does. He looks good and I.
Speaker 2: Think it's funny. Like the guys that I like are
Speaker 2: Witherspoon and Deontay Banks because to me, they're tough, physical
Speaker 2: athletes that I think project well the NFL. Right, you
Speaker 2: don't like the toughness as much, right, you like you
Speaker 2: like soft, pretty boys. It gets interceptions series.
Speaker 3: You told my guys don't miss no games.
Speaker 2: I like that guys don't miss it. And I'm giving
Speaker 2: I'm giving Forbes a hard time, but I do like
Speaker 2: his film a lot. Like he's He's probably my fourth
Speaker 2: fifth corner in the class.
Speaker 3: You got Ringo because he's the guy that I think
Speaker 3: he's lying everybody. He's your five star guy that played
Speaker 3: with a lot of more five stars and just looked
Speaker 3: like he was going through the motions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you told me this, and like the
Speaker 2: second I watched like his first like his first coverage
Speaker 2: cut up. I was like, you said, he's gonna have safety,
Speaker 2: and I was like, he has to play safety. He's
Speaker 2: got such tight hip, fast, he's fast, and he's big.
Speaker 2: He looks good coming off the bus. But when I
Speaker 2: when I when the dB has a hitch on the turn, Yeah,
Speaker 2: on something vertical, it's fatal, especially when you're going against
Speaker 2: really faster.
Speaker 3: To turn their hips and had to pick their knees up. Really,
Speaker 3: that tears me. You don't You're not a smooth transition.
Speaker 3: And I hate to say this. If a cornerback can't dance,
Speaker 3: I don't want it.
Speaker 2: It's I mean, I you know, I'm a I'm a
Speaker 2: strength coach by trade, Fred you know, by when I'm
Speaker 2: not in here talking to the microphone. And one of the
Speaker 2: biggest things in the research is like dancing and rhythm,
Speaker 2: it correlates directly to athleticism. So I know you're trying
Speaker 2: to make a joke there, but that's.
Speaker 3: What did myself took ballet You want you is that
Speaker 3: why your feet or on this stuff? No? No, it
Speaker 3: could be about but this also where I didn't get
Speaker 3: a lot of ankle injuries and I got great balance,
Speaker 3: and that's what you want. Like the one thing about
Speaker 3: a cornerback, he has to have kit like reactions. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you never see a cat fall, all right, you got
Speaker 3: to hit the ground, get back up. You gotta be
Speaker 3: seconds tense of a second. Like so at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, if you're not a jilly and you're
Speaker 3: not flexible, I don't see you stopping some of these.
Speaker 3: I don't see you stopping Jamar Chase.
Speaker 2: I just don't Jamar Chase, Tyreek Hill, like name any quick, fast,
Speaker 2: swell schooled wide receiver, and you need to have fluid
Speaker 2: hips and good reaction. Billy, I totally agree.
Speaker 3: And so that's why some of these guys, and you know,
Speaker 3: this is what we do every year. Every year we
Speaker 3: have a draft with seven rounds, and we feel like
Speaker 3: all seven rounds, all thirty two picks are all gonna
Speaker 3: be great. They're just not. Like I hate to tell people,
Speaker 3: sixty percent of this first round will not be in
Speaker 3: the league in four years.
Speaker 2: So I was gonna ask you, Fred, do you want
Speaker 2: to talk about your top guys, your top corners, give
Speaker 2: your top corners, and then how would you tier them?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Because I know not all these guys are going to
Speaker 2: be first round players. Yeah, some of them are going
Speaker 2: to be first top first round players, some of the
Speaker 2: second second half of the first round. How do you
Speaker 2: tear them?
Speaker 3: Who are your guys mimicking last years? I believe in
Speaker 3: Tarik Woodland. When I see him go to Seattle pro bowler,
Speaker 3: I knew it. Get with their coach, you will be good.
Speaker 3: When I seen some of these guys now he's like, okay, uh,
Speaker 3: I think a guy like Christian Gonzales, I'm high on
Speaker 3: him than you are.
Speaker 2: He's he's my second rateed quarter. So for my tiers, yea,
Speaker 2: I have with a Spoon in the first tier kind
Speaker 2: of by himself, and then I have then I have there.
Speaker 3: Come on now, Jackson, you did not Michael James, you didn't.
Speaker 2: Have You didn't do tears. I'm doing my teers. So
Speaker 2: then I got Christian Gonzales, I got Deontay Banks, I
Speaker 2: got shoot I forget the other guy had in there,
Speaker 2: Deantay Banks, Joey Porter Jr. And then I have Emmanuel
Speaker 2: Forbes in the third tier. But it's very close. So
Speaker 2: that's kind of my top five guys. I can see
Speaker 2: you're upset about that.
Speaker 3: No, I'm just saying it just told me that you
Speaker 3: just so how.
Speaker 2: How would you tear at Fred?
Speaker 3: I would say, the distance between I mean number one,
Speaker 3: and I've said this in number seven corner in this
Speaker 3: draft is minute. It's minute. I can get just as
Speaker 3: much play from Uh. You love Banks.
Speaker 2: I'm high on Banks, but I understand. I understand your point. Though.
Speaker 2: To me, the difference between Gonzales Banks and Joey Porter Jr.
Speaker 2: Is basically basically the same.
Speaker 3: Feel like I can get the same thing from Banks
Speaker 3: that I can get in the third round from DJ
Speaker 3: Turner from Michigan.
Speaker 2: I disagree. He's a good he's a great football player,
Speaker 2: a round a four to two fourth the combine, and
Speaker 2: he's he's he's all those things. But he's one of
Speaker 2: those guys at the catch point that I'm like, is
Speaker 2: he physical enough at the catch pointint.
Speaker 3: At the miss point with me where you and the
Speaker 3: receiver get get get side by side and transition into
Speaker 3: a route. I put these guys all in the same tier.
Speaker 3: I don't believe nobody in this draft is a d
Speaker 3: un Sanders, all right, nobody's in. So I put these guys,
Speaker 3: it's like five one bees. Yeah, I like five one
Speaker 3: bees that can be special with the right coach in
Speaker 3: the right situation. I don't see as much separation as
Speaker 3: you do, and I'm not as high on the high end,
Speaker 3: and I think that's why.
Speaker 2: So when I say tears, right, so Witherspoon's to me
Speaker 2: is a top ten pick. Those other three guys I
Speaker 2: could see go to the first round, and Forbes could
Speaker 2: sneak into the bottom of the first early second. So
Speaker 2: there's not a lot of space for me, right. But
Speaker 2: when you when you kind of get to the film,
Speaker 2: you have to distinguish stuff because you have to say
Speaker 2: what separates player action player?
Speaker 3: Who is the safest? That's the question of and will
Speaker 3: the Spoon seems to be the safest. I think because
Speaker 3: of one thing, his tackling ability.
Speaker 2: He's an excellent tackle. And that's another reason why I
Speaker 2: like banks a lot too, because they're good tacklers. And
Speaker 2: I've played with corners who are good coverage players, and
Speaker 2: you have two, yeah, who aren't willing to tackle, and
Speaker 2: it gets exposed at this level, right, they can't tackle receivers,
Speaker 2: they can't.
Speaker 3: They're gonna start to make their receiver cut that linebacker,
Speaker 3: and you they gonna they're gonna force you to be
Speaker 3: one on one with backs. And most guys they are
Speaker 3: willing tackle. His mindset tackling is a mindset that's taut.
Speaker 3: And most these guys from college are not good tackler
Speaker 3: because they don't give up a lot of catches.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And so like to your point, like Kyle's
Speaker 2: whole offense, Kyle Shanahan's entire offense is built around making
Speaker 2: the worst tackle on the field make the tackle. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And ninety percent of the time, ninety eight percent of
Speaker 2: the time, the run is designed to make the corner
Speaker 2: make the tackle.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 2: And so when I look at that, I say, Joey
Speaker 2: Porter Junior not the best tackler. Christian goan Zale is
Speaker 2: not the best tackler. I will say, Manuel Forbes is
Speaker 2: a very willing tackler. Deontay Banks very willing tackler. And
Speaker 2: with Aspooner willing attackler. So that's why I value what
Speaker 2: they do well.
Speaker 3: I value the fact that this is a passing league.
Speaker 3: Now that's what everybody no.
Speaker 2: I but but I do think and you would agree
Speaker 2: with me. Those guys can cover.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not like all these these You said, who are.
Speaker 2: The safest and we're and I think we both agree
Speaker 2: they're the safest picks. Yeah, because they are the best
Speaker 2: and most willing tacklers.
Speaker 3: They are, and you still we'll be a prisoner to
Speaker 3: your defensive play caller and to the rest of the
Speaker 3: guys on your team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Fred, I always enjoy talking with you, and
Speaker 2: I think we got to talk maybe a line next time.
Speaker 2: And let's keep an eye on those James And was right,
Speaker 2: this ain't finished.
Speaker 3: This is not over, my brother. We will continue.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Fred, what are you watching? Hey?
Speaker 3: This new show beef would Yeah, that's the one about
Speaker 3: the road Rage. Yes, it starts off in roads Rage,
Speaker 3: and it just ends in terrible stuff. It's just like
Speaker 3: every episode just starts the snowball and things get worse
Speaker 3: and worse. I heard.
Speaker 2: I heard the main character is like, like might get
Speaker 2: together at the end. Do you think that's what's gonna be?
Speaker 3: Yes, But they see, they leave you on the cliffhanger
Speaker 3: because they because listen, he gets shot by her husband.
Speaker 3: What I'm telling you, she falls in love with the
Speaker 3: dude that she was in road Rage with she cheats
Speaker 3: on her husband with the dudes brother, they get trapped
Speaker 3: in the woods together they eat some poison berries and
Speaker 3: just lose their mind. Show it's called Beat. You gotta
Speaker 3: watch it. It's a modent, emotional roller coaster and that's
Speaker 3: what I like. And it's written very well.
Speaker 2: Shoot, all right, well I'm watching I'm watching The Night Agent,
Speaker 2: which I don't really watch. I kind of work on
Speaker 2: workout with it at night and then it's on. It's okay.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not as good as beef.
Speaker 3: Sounds like you're not really a TV dude.
Speaker 2: I mean I do. But I got kids, Fred and
Speaker 2: they live with me. I got kid but you know
Speaker 2: how it is your kids older right there? So I got,
Speaker 2: like you sports. I got football practice on Monday and
Speaker 2: Monday Thursday, got hockey practice on Tuesday. I got soccer
Speaker 2: practice on Wednesday. Like, it's not a lot of time.
Speaker 3: About in nagg and what the baby gonna do? Check
Speaker 3: this out? When you get tell you's where your kids
Speaker 3: getting older? Now? They just eat and go in their
Speaker 3: room and clothes and do it like you don't You
Speaker 3: don't want that, because then you like that is true?
Speaker 2: I want it. I want it, Dude, I got a.
Speaker 3: Relationship with you. They just outgrowing you at the time,
Speaker 3: and they don't want to chill with Pops out the time,
Speaker 3: and plus with the phones, with the phones.
Speaker 2: It's terrible.
Speaker 3: It's over with.
Speaker 2: So I guess what I'm saying is I enjoy that
Speaker 2: that I'm not watching a lot of TV right now.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because it's raised by the TV.
Speaker 2: The show that I am watching not great. But Fred,
Speaker 2: Thanks buddy. We'll talk about this morn next time on
Speaker 2: the show.