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Speaker 1: by Mount Knocks in collaboration with mayhem hunt. I was skeptical,

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Speaker 4: that's the problem. Once you take the pack off, you're

442
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 4: gonna want to keep taking the.

443
00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,280
Speaker 3: Thing is going to get a magnet into the ground.

444
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to just like keep trudging.

445
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:53,240
Speaker 3: Yep, just one step at a time. Were you lighter

446
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,200
Speaker 3: the years you were doing Leadville?

447
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,399
Speaker 1: The first year I was pretty light. I think I

448
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 1: was like one eighty eight one night. The next year

449
00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 1: I was my normal. I just my body is just

450
00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 1: that's like homeostasis for it. If I get too light,

451
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,240
Speaker 1: I start getting hurt. If I my body just will

452
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,119
Speaker 1: not shed weight, it's sure. So it doesn't matter what

453
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing.

454
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 3: Probably what body fat.

455
00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no idea.

456
00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is hard.

457
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is hard to just like lose a lot

458
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 2: of that muscle too.

459
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 3: I'm trying. I'm on the cutting I would say I'm

460
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,880
Speaker 3: trying to get some weight. I'm down eight pounds. I'm

461
00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: trying to get below two is like the goal. Because

462
00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 3: I talked Chan again and he's like, dude, I did

463
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 3: it at two nineteen and that was a bigger grat

464
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 3: I'm like, dude, you are a freaking.

465
00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,000
Speaker 1: He's also there. I don't know how he would lose

466
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:49,080
Speaker 1: any weight. Yeah, he's just a square yeah, muscle, no

467
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 1: other way to put it.

468
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, if I could have like just simply

469
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 3: bend lighter, that would have helped me out.

470
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I mean you look at the guys

471
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: who do really well. Yeah, les who do really well

472
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: with the race, They're just they're not our side.

473
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: I bet you Keegan is man. No, he's ler than that. Wow,

474
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 3: I bet you he's in like the forties.

475
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh. Yeah. I've multiple people that were like,

476
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,439
Speaker 1: I was wondering who this linebacker was, Like, I'm not

477
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 1: even that big.

478
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,199
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, what are you weighing right now?

479
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 2: You want to be under hundred?

480
00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like two oh six right now?

481
00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: What are you doing to cut?

482
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 3: Just colories or yeah, just tracking. I'm doing about twenty

483
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:35,600
Speaker 3: four hundred calories a day.

484
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 1: What are you riding a day?

485
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 3: Uh? Anywhere from ninety to three or ninety minutes three

486
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 3: hours every day pretty much minimum at least some some

487
00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,880
Speaker 3: depending on the family. Really Yeah, if I can get out,

488
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,960
Speaker 3: I'll ride the bike. But usually the family's not doing

489
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 3: too well or wife needs something, I'll just hopple and

490
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,200
Speaker 3: seat two bike.

491
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,919
Speaker 1: Which for me, the position on the Sea two is

492
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 1: not even close to the same.

493
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 3: Hey, riding my mountain bike.

494
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I gotta figure that out. If

495
00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: the seat's too far forward, too far back, But like

496
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: my body hurts in weird spots the longer I'm on

497
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: a Sea two bike, where it does not hurt on

498
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,560
Speaker 1: the mountain bike. Part of that. Part of that too

499
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: is the mountain bike is moving a lot, so you

500
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: are standing sitting.

501
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 3: I put my clips in that room like made it

502
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,640
Speaker 3: more applicable, and I swopped like I bought the same

503
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,080
Speaker 3: seat that I have on my mountain bike and on

504
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 3: the seat two bike.

505
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 4: It's just it's also like you don't there's nothing to

506
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,040
Speaker 4: take your mind off the seat two bike, Like when

507
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,680
Speaker 4: you're even if you're road biking, you still have scenery

508
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 4: and you're not only think about how much my ass

509
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 4: hurd or how tired my shoulders are from holding myself

510
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 4: like those you have, like other things like you're looking

511
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 4: around like, oh, look at that dog or something like

512
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 4: there's something going on.

513
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: No, it's definitely when I can get out and not

514
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 3: be too selfish with my time, I'll get out, but

515
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,880
Speaker 3: you know, still gotta be at home, present dad, things

516
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 3: like that, so I'll have the kids running around around

517
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:00,719
Speaker 3: me and yelling at them as I'm trying. Yeah. So

518
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 3: today's workout was brutal for twelve minutes on three or

519
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: two minutes off for eight rounds and you're holding so

520
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:16,200
Speaker 3: my technical my C two ftp is two eighty okay,

521
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 3: And I had to hold a two twenty five for

522
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 3: twelve minutes for five sets for two minutes on. That was. Yeah,

523
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 3: that's tough. That was That was a push in it

524
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 3: for sure. That was a puddle in the end. Also,

525
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: I think I have pretty salty sweat because I come home,

526
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,640
Speaker 3: I look at my bike and there's like white.

527
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,560
Speaker 2: White everywhere crystallized.

528
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: Yeah.

529
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, straight sweat totally, that's what I get out here.

530
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: The hard part too, is it's so humid here that like.

531
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,320
Speaker 3: It's hitting me like a freaking freight train.

532
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 4: You will be I bet your body will learn to

533
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 4: sweat better, Like it'll be less salty the longer you

534
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: do it.

535
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 3: Have you met, You've been You've been around me.

536
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: I've been here.

537
00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 3: For twenty years.

538
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: I'm saying, but ye're proficient sweater. Though your sweat is

539
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,919
Speaker 4: probably pretty much the last year.

540
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: That it did lead Bill. I don't know if it

541
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: was just hot that year. I had Dad Watkins come

542
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: pick me up one day because I got like, oh,

543
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,920
Speaker 1: out there down bad and I was out on the road.

544
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I just got baked from the inside.

545
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: I was starting to get like dizzy, starting to like

546
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:20,000
Speaker 1: fall off the bike.

547
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I mean, yeah, there's definitely a limit. But

548
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 4: you are a proficient sweater, and you I'm so, I'm

549
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,160
Speaker 4: saying you will become a more proficient sweater in the humidity.

550
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: Not this year, probably probably in a few years.

551
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 3: The race August eighth, August fifteenth, Okay, yeah, so we.

552
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: Got a couple when we get back from the games,

553
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 1: we can go on some long ride totally. I'll be

554
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 1: done with me and you'll be ready for BCS. Yeah.

555
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: If the fifty miles canceled, I think I'm going to

556
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: do thirty three laps on the lower on the lower

557
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 3: half of your property. Thirty three lap three, it's one

558
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: hundred miles.

559
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: Holy cow.

560
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna do one hundred miles before you go?

561
00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:02,959
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, do fifteen laps, sixteen laps. There's like

562
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,200
Speaker 1: all there's all kinds of science that says you don't

563
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: need to do more than half of whatever the race

564
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 1: is before race.

565
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 3: The tricky part for me is like, like, I know

566
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 3: my fitness level to a.

567
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: Degree, twenty laps. You can do twenty laps, so not

568
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: do thirty three laps. Watkins, Okay, sounds good.

569
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,960
Speaker 4: I don't think I mean, I agree with him. There

570
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 4: is some studies out there of the show.

571
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: That like, over four to five hours, there's you're not

572
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: just diminishing return, like there's no it's fair. Yeah, you're

573
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 1: gonna know physically and nutritionally what you need to know

574
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,359
Speaker 1: in five hours. The longest ride I ever did before

575
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: the first year I did Leadville was five hours. Frank

576
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: Frank was there.

577
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: It was right at five hours something like that.

578
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: It was hot. It was like ninety something degrees.

579
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: Dang, yeah, because stage and it's gonna be July and hot.

580
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: You could stage stuff back there too, like to where

581
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: you could switch out food and all that sort of

582
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: stuff or put it here.

583
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 3: And I were like talking to a game plan yesterday

584
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 3: of like, because one we're trying to dial in what

585
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 3: my body is going to feel like when it's actually

586
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 3: getting to the fatigue point. And then how we can

587
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:11,880
Speaker 3: you know, find the nutrition game.

588
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: You need to sit down and look at it. You

589
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 1: need to test some stuff to like what kind of

590
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 1: car drink that you like, what you know palatable after

591
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 1: three hours. That's the big thing is that is brutal.

592
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: Have you you?

593
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: I did never second just the ultrap.

594
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: Have you tried humor? I've got some humors to try.

595
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: They're more chia seed fruit based versus just completely process.

596
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 3: I just couldn't. I couldn't.

597
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: I'll give you some humans to try.

598
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 3: Sounds good.

599
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: They have some that have some caffeine mixed in them

600
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 1: and electrolytes and some that are just plain but they're

601
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,400
Speaker 1: mainly chias seed. That's what that don't recommend. And then

602
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 1: when I was in the mountains, you know, you go

603
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: buy an aid station, like you want to get gel

604
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: and I'm like, give me here, because there's a point

605
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: where you.

606
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: Like, give me anything and every something different.

607
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: I have, yes, yes.

608
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: And then yeah because we can talk about it. But yeah,

609
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: having you know, three to four hundred grams of carbs

610
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: available in food form, and then having I had always

611
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: had one hundred grand bottle and a fifty grand bottle

612
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: of carbs in case food started going south, just in case.

613
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,639
Speaker 1: And then when I lost those two grand bottles of

614
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: my cage before power right after Columbine, and then the

615
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: next eight station at power line, yeah before the hatchery.

616
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, yeah, I lost both of those. That's

617
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 3: so sad.

618
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: I came down what is it turquoise, I guess whatever

619
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: the last descent is, and I got to the like

620
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: road part before you go into town and I was

621
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 1: out of liquid.

622
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: Do that road part that you go down at first

623
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: and then to come back up just ruined to me mentally.

624
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, it sucks. Imagine that being the last part and

625
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,199
Speaker 1: not having any liquid.

626
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: Oh.

627
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: I was like passing people. I'm like, you get any water?

628
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 3: I don't have anything. There's that one aid station like

629
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 3: halfway up of the pavement.

630
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah, right as you go into

631
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: the woods yep, and it's pretty much downhill from there

632
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: to the road.

633
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

634
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: Didn't you have one of those guys by you who

635
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 4: had a Chick fil A sandwich on him?

636
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: That?

637
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: Or am I making that up?

638
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: That was I think a J and Rory at one

639
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: hundred mile.

640
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 4: I thought, if what were the guys you were biking with?

641
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 4: You said you met up with a couple of guys

642
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 4: just on the on Oh yeah, y were they? Were

643
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,000
Speaker 4: they eating some crazy or am I making this?

644
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: Rory was talking about in a iron Man or something

645
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: he was doing. Some guy was eating just a burrito

646
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 1: like on his bike. I never I wish I would

647
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,239
Speaker 1: have done. Now that we've done a couple of these

648
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 1: twenty four hour and twelve hour things, having some like

649
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: Chick fil a sandwich. Yeah, the first hour or two

650
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: just to like, I was like, oh in crustables, but

651
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: your mouth from all the sweets, you're just yeah out.

652
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: It does It's crazy. It just gets so tiring.

653
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 1: But a lot of that does, you know, roll over

654
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: into what we do in that in the woods.

655
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 3: Absolutely.

656
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: You know, if you're a hard hunt, then that nutrition

657
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 1: stuff is just beneficial to learn and if your stomach

658
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: can handle.

659
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: If I can get a full like a true real

660
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: meal in on a hunt at any point is a

661
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: freaking game changer. I will say, I'm pretty surprised with

662
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: the like Viking does not beat up your body.

663
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: No, it does.

664
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Speaker 3: Like I've chucked my body through the ring or this season,

665
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 3: and I really haven't really had much diminishing returns.

666
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 1: No, you know, the I lost a little bit of

667
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 1: like front rack mobility when I was doing a lot

668
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: of from being in this position, and all the time

669
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 1: my elbows would get a little like you know, you're

670
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: getting beat up all the time, that my elbows got

671
00:29:56,960 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: a little bit. But for the most part, dude, on Saturday,

672
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: m hm, so slick. I one of the times I

673
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: hit a bump and my hand slipped off and I

674
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: caught myself and I was like, oh okay, that was close.

675
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: And then I did it again ten seconds after. And

676
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 1: when I did, I this knee like I caught myself

677
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: with this leg and it you know, I can't flex

678
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 1: this knee past barely past ninety degrees and it went

679
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: almost but dude, I thought I my knee was gonna exlode.

680
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 1: It was fine after, but the like shocked to my body, Dude,

681
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: it was it was next level. It was like, you know,

682
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,120
Speaker 1: like you go to step off something and your legs

683
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: folds behind you. That's what it felt like. Dude, I

684
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 1: thought I was dead.

685
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Speaker 4: Hey, I'm getting to that point where I can't I

686
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 4: can't sit at my ankles anymore, like my knees, my knees.

687
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking at I've got I've got a point

688
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: where the guy does replacements on my knees to that point.

689
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Speaker 3: So yeah, on a different I'm switching the tone to

690
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 3: a hunting topic.

691
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Speaker 1: Yep.

692
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: Uh, my wife and I are actually getting a blood

693
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 3: tracking dog, she said, Yeah, it's a Bavarian mountain hound.

694
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: So when we lose some deer this fall, yep, we're

695
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: gonna call dots.

696
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

697
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Speaker 2: Ye, So I don't even know where to begin with

698
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 2: that stuff.

699
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's basically, anytime we kill anything this fall,

700
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to call dods before we go, just

701
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: to them just to let us.

702
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 3: But also like so I talked to the breeder. Freeze,

703
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: bone freeze, hide freeze, the blood get as much like

704
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 3: save as much as you can put it in your freezer,

705
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200
Speaker 3: and then when you go to train pup, just like

706
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 3: make it a little line and then add a ninety

707
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 3: degree and then add some you know, down trees.

708
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: Straight forward.

709
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: It's pretty straightforward, but we're we're pretty excited for that.

710
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: We like, I'm hit or missed with dogs. But there's

711
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 3: like Ludy and my daughter, Ludy unfortunately got like bit

712
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: by a dog pretty early on. I think she was

713
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: like barely one, yeah, and she literally has a giant

714
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: fear of anything with four legs now, And we're kind

715
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: of like we want to nip it in the butt,

716
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: and like, well, if we're gonna do this, I'm getting

717
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: a hunting dog. And I'm not a bird guy. Like,

718
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 3: so I'm not getting a lab, Like, I'm not not

719
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 3: gonna teach you how to like get birds because I'm

720
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: just not a bird hunter. Like I think a tracking

721
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 3: dog would be awesome.

722
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: What is funny though about labs is bro it is

723
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: ingrained in.

724
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: That Oh, Bill will run himself into the ground chasing

725
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: whiffleballs and he'll bring it right back to you until

726
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: he's done, and then he'll take the ball and he'll

727
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 1: just go sit in the shade, yeah, because he doesn't

728
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 1: want you to throw it again, because he knows you

729
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: can't not go get It's it's impressive how we've never

730
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: really trained him whatsoever.

731
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just has to.

732
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: Have something in his mouth at all times. He didn't

733
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: chew it.

734
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: And they don't just carry.

735
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like when they carry it to you, it's

736
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 4: not they can carry an they can carry an uncooked egg.

737
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: Labs are just carry and they'll set it down, it

738
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: won't break it. Yeah, they just have that soft mouth.

739
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: And as soon as I like the kids will have

740
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: to get a little bit more aggressive with them and drop.

741
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: But as soon as I say drop or I even

742
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: just like snap and point. Yeah it's down.

743
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 3: That's cool.

744
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: And we'd never want other than playing whiffleball in the yard.

745
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: Sure has he ever, but it's super handy until it's

746
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: really annoying.

747
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Labs are just so so it's

748
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 4: so funny about them being bird dogs.

749
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: Dude, they just they just it's an eight in them. Yeah,

750
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: that's just what they do.

751
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 3: It's cool because yeah, this dog we don't want. Like

752
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 3: one of my biggest I don't know, miner pet peeves

753
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: is biggest minor pet peeves. It's a minor pet peeves.

754
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: Like when I go to someone's house and you just

755
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: get crushed by barking and like dogs like, oh, I'm.

756
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: Sorry, he's such a teady bear blah blahlah.

757
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: Blah blah like my dogs. Uh no, because your dogs

758
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 3: are outside. Yeah, it's like when you walk in the

759
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: house and they're just barking.

760
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: Oh ours don't bark really, Yeah, they will every once

761
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: in a while, but as soon as they like see

762
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: it's a person, sure, they're welcome, there's no bar.

763
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 3: But like this, this dog hunts with its nose like

764
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: it's not a hound or like a mountain lion hound

765
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 3: where it's like barking its face off. Here, tell me

766
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 3: see something moving. It's a pretty silent pup, which we're

767
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: really excited about that too. How are you getting it?

768
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 3: It's the breeders in Pennsylvania, right where Anna's parents live.

769
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 3: You have to drive up there and yeah, but we'll

770
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: see the in law so it'll be perfect.

771
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: When is how old I mean, is it is this

772
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: puppy Like it's yet?

773
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.

774
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,760
Speaker 4: It been has been born, So it's has been Has

775
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 4: it been conceived? I mean, I don't know if it's

776
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 4: been conceived.

777
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,439
Speaker 3: It's it'll be eight weeks the last like right after

778
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: the game is pretty much it'll.

779
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: Be perfect season, it can start to we can start

780
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: teaching it.

781
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 3: Totally excited. It's called name, it's gunny.

782
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

783
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 4: The problem with the problem is with me helping train

784
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: dog is I always have such clean shots and animals.

785
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 2: We never needed tracking down my issues.

786
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: Right over there, I need you.

787
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 2: I'm gonna context boy or girl.

788
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: A girl?

789
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess they mature faster, but that's also what

790
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 3: they had available.

791
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: So are you gonna keep her intact or no?

792
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

793
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 2: Kind of having a girl dog intact.

794
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: It's got to be an issue, really, I mean, yeah,

795
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 4: they bleed on your ears, like they start bleeding on

796
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 4: the carp You're like.

797
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 3: All right, yeah, dog, but another problem. Yeah, I haven't

798
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 3: seen I even thought about. This is good stuff to

799
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 3: talk about.

800
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean we we didn't have any goal of

801
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 4: breeding either of our dogs.

802
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,439
Speaker 2: We just haven't fixed as soon as we could.

803
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,319
Speaker 3: Yeah. The well, we'll be able to vet out how

804
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 3: good the guy. The guy's dogged in Texas. After we

805
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 3: run it, we'll.

806
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: Take it out in a rainstorm.

807
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: Let Angelo shoot rates. I just finished that edit.

808
00:35:58,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Did you.

809
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: We'll post it soon. Couples Dorotto when we're we're launching

810
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: the all for September line. We're gonna have a lot

811
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: of content ready for that. Yeah, and the Rock Program things,

812
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 3: the rucks.

813
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 2: The Ruck program is live. The Rock Program is we

814
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 2: just need to get the.

815
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 4: Like the hats and mostly yeah, the hats you need

816
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 4: to be in mostly.

817
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

818
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: We got a and I actually had a you know,

819
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 2: I just.

820
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 3: Doubled up and I added a.

821
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: I had a five K ruck progression that I had

822
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 2: twenty workouts.

823
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 3: I go, I'll throw that in there too. So that's

824
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,919
Speaker 3: also why, well if the gets canceled, I'll do that. Yeah.

825
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 4: So there's so there is the Rock Workout Program, which

826
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 4: is twenty workouts and it's just centered around all you

827
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 4: need is a ruck in your body. I think maybe

828
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 4: there's some step up so if you need if you

829
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 4: have something you can step up on, it could literally

830
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 4: be your stairs, okay, And I think that is all

831
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: a ruck and maybe some another form of an item

832
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 4: to step up on. Twenty workouts of that, and then

833
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 4: I believe there's twenty workouts of a five K literally

834
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 4: that's just for a five K progression, Like it's something

835
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 4: you would do like once or twice a week, like

836
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 4: Monday and Thursday. One's time based and one's distance base,

837
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 4: adding adding intense to your volume.

838
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 3: That would be a fun content piece where like we

839
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: just say, hey, the Mayhem teams doing on this day. Yeah,

840
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 3: like you know, I mean Scott would absolutely demolish that.

841
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: He would, Yeah, be good for my training buildings. Has

842
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,919
Speaker 1: started the bodybuilding track?

843
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: Has he?

844
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: Yeah?

845
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: Heck yeah today today?

846
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 2: All right?

847
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: I told him, I said, hey, you can skip leg

848
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: day because people won't do it. I said, but we might.

849
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: You need a deadlift over one. He's like, I've never

850
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:38,280
Speaker 1: deadlifted before.

851
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 3: But if I like filmed them doing it what we

852
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 3: hate that, I.

853
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: Think it'd be awesome. Give him a couple of weeks.

854
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:48,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that that's a good segue into

855
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: what what we're doing here. So so this show will end,

856
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: you can continue to like go to Meat Eater podcast

857
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,480
Speaker 1: or still have all their podcas casts. This show will end,

858
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: you can still check my socials Mayhem Hunt on YouTube,

859
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: Mayhem Hunt on Instagram. We're gonna start doing less sit

860
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 1: down talks type stuff more get back to the over

861
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,439
Speaker 1: the last year where we were doing those one hour

862
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 1: kind of full session type things and some shooting high

863
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: heart rate, shooting stuff, shooting you know, competition fitness, competition

864
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: y type stuff. You'll see more of that type of

865
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: stuff on the Hunt page from us. We'll still be

866
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: working with me Eater. They're still going to be doing

867
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 1: the the all the podcasts that they're doing, but this

868
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,320
Speaker 1: this show will end. We might every once while to

869
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: do a round table talk on the Mayhem Hunt socials

870
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: and YouTube that type of stuff. It's just got to

871
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: where we're not just sit down and talk type guys.

872
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 1: We're more of like, hey, do it with us type. Yeah,

873
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: and so just made sense to we're about a year in,

874
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: I think, so kind of sunset this and continue to

875
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: do back on what we were doing. We're more we're

876
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: not very valuable just to show show, don't tell, We'll

877
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: show antell yeah. Yeah, and so yeah, that's what you'll

878
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: see here. So keep going to Meeter for you know,

879
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: the all the podcasts that they're doing with Play, the

880
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: regular show, the trivia show, Mark all that stuff, so

881
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: that that'll still be there, but our content will just

882
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: go back to Mayhem Hunt. And if you've been tuning

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Speaker 1: in and enjoyed it, you know, come on over and

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Speaker 1: we'll continue. But probably a little bit different style stuff.

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Speaker 1: You probably will just be uh listening to us talk

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Speaker 1: all the time. It'll be more offeah, more to YouTube

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Speaker 1: type stuff. I'm still hunting, still doing that, which I

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Speaker 1: should know today about New Mexico. So then we can

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Speaker 1: build out the rest of the fall because I'm like it,

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Speaker 1: get it figured out right now, wife, Yeah, so is mine? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And then I guess what I see when Colorado second

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Speaker 1: draws will be out.

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Speaker 3: I think it's like the eighth Yeah, it's coming out here.

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Speaker 1: So if we're going back for meal, dear, or if

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Speaker 1: an antelope punt's gonna happen or not.

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Speaker 2: So the chance that antelope punt, like really really really.

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Speaker 1: Really I think there was one text.

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Speaker 3: But also if it's gonna be under smoke too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so but yeah, that'll be the that'll be

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Speaker 1: it for us. We'll ever see each other again, see

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Speaker 1: you guys and now, but we'll be uh, we'll just.

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Speaker 3: Do some other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this will be a part of it, but other stuff.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like we'll we'll still have some podcasts, but more

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Speaker 4: uh yeah dustin some of the things.

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Speaker 1: Ye, so anything else.

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Speaker 3: I just want to say thanks, you know, for all

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Speaker 3: the fans that I've grown over the past six episodes.

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Speaker 2: You know where to find me.

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Speaker 4: I'll leave my Instagram, teach my Instagram, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Like, and subscribe yep. So that's it for us on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. Yeah this ye Peace