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We have an amazing show for everybody today. 19 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: What do we have bristl and we missed everybody? Indeed 20 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: we do, yes, yest you guys, so I mentioned this 21 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: on Twitter. I think we sent on an email to 22 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Premium subs Tube. We're doing the show Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 23 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: We didn't want to mess with the winter storm. It 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: was MLK Junior Day anyway, So Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, this 25 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: week anyway, lots of stories to get to, new shots 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: fired in a little brewing GOP civil war between Trump 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: and DeSantis. We will give you the very latest. There 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: some movement from the federal government. We now have a 29 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: date when you guys can start ordering free tests online. 30 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: There's also some new numbers which are pretty encouraging from Omicron. 31 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: We'll give you all of those details. We also have 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: the first higher level charges. With January sixth I had 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: ten members of Oath Keepers charged with sedition. I read 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: through the entire indictment to tell you what you need 35 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: to know about that, So we'll get into that. Also, 36 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: the controversy continues with tennis star Novak Djokovic. He has 37 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: now been officially deported from Australia and banned from that 38 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: country for three years. Three years seems a little aggressive, 39 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: So we've got the timeline and the details there. Also, 40 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: the one and only Nina Turner is going to join 41 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: us for her unvarnished thoughts on the Biden administration. Speaking 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 1: of which, that is where we want to start with 43 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: some pretty dire and rather extraordinary new numbers. Let's start 44 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: with a party identification. Let's go ahead and throw this 45 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: tweet up on the screen. So and leave this up 46 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: for Amanut Colvin, because you can see at the beginning 47 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: of the year, Democrats had a sizeable edge in terms 48 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: of party ID. This was actually their largest edge nine 49 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: points their advantage terms of party identification that they'd had 50 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: since like twenty twelve, So the largest advantage in a decade. 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: Think back to that time. That was, you know, the 52 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: tail end of Trump. They're doing all their stop the 53 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: steal nonsense. Democrats just won those two seats in Georgia, 54 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: you have won six, and then as we move forward 55 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: in time, their fortunes drovemadically begin to change, bringing us 56 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: to the present day, where now Republicans, who normally historically 57 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: carry about you know, somewhere around a three point disadvantage 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: in party i D, now they have a five point edge. 59 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: That is one of the largest advantages that Republicans have 60 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,359 Speaker 1: had in terms of party ID in decades. The Republicans 61 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: last held five point advantage in party id and leaning 62 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: in early ninety five. That was right after they won 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: control the House of Representatives. They had a larger advantage 64 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: only in the first quarter of ninety one. That was 65 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: right after the US victory in the Persian Gulf War 66 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: led by then President George HW. Bush. Most of the 67 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: movement in terms of party identification, the hard Democrats basically 68 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: stayed where they were, The hard Republicans basically stayed where 69 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: they were. Where the movement was was in the Democratic 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: leaning independence and the Republican leaning independence. Look some of 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: it is. I mean, there's no secret here. You went 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: from a tremendously unpopular president in Republican Donald Trump to 73 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: a now tremendously unpopular president in Democrat Joe Biden. And 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: as leaders of their respective parties, the party fortune overall 75 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: suffers dramatically when their failures are so obvious in the 76 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: American people's minds. Absolutely true, Crystal. You know, I've tracked 77 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: this for a long time, and I remember a lot 78 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: of the time focus that we gave during impeachment in 79 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: the Ukraine Gate and all of that, and I could 80 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: consistently point to that at the very height of impeachment. 81 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty, right during the vote, right before 82 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: coronavirus struck in all of that, Republican party identification was 83 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 1: at highest it had been in a decade, almost since 84 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Yeah, and I would always point to 85 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: that and be like, listen, it's not working. Generic party 86 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: ID is actually a very very useful barometer for how 87 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:53,239 Speaker 1: people may actually vote come midterm and come presidential race. 88 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: This is a very very important metric. And look, it's 89 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 1: early days still, obviously, you know, the next selection is 90 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: a year away, and it's the midterms. The president's got 91 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: three years to turn it around. But the stunning reversal 92 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: here is just to lose seven points on the generic 93 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: ID and then seven point increase in the Republicans. So 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: it's not that Democrats lost seven points and then those 95 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: people became independents. It's that that seven was directly transferred 96 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: up and to people who said that they were going 97 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: to vote for the other party. That is how you see. 98 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 1: I mean Glenn Youngin very much could then be a 99 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: harbinger of what's to come, because he won the Mitt 100 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Romney type. You know, people who had voted for Joe 101 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: Biden and did not vote for Donald Trump, and he 102 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: drove out other Republicans who voted for Trump in like 103 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:41,000 Speaker 1: Southwest Virginia. Those types of numbers and coalitions, you're looking 104 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 1: at a popular vote win in many places which are 105 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: even remotely bluish type purple. That's the big problem that 106 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: they have right now, big problem that they have right now. 107 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: And we pulled another analysis that we're going to get 108 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: to in a minute of exactly how this could translate 109 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: in terms of the mid term spoiler alert. It looks 110 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: very grim for Democrats those metrics as well, but there 111 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: were some more numbers that help illustrate why people feel 112 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: the way that they do. Right now, let's go ahead 113 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: and put this tweet up on the screen. CBS News 114 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 1: and you gov did a really interesting poll here. They 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: asked their respondents, how has the Biden presidency made you feel? 116 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: Top responses were frustrated, disappointed, and nervous. Those were the 117 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: top three, and then you drop all the way down 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: to twenty five percent, call them and satisfied. But it 119 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: was half fifty percent of respondents who said that they 120 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 1: were frustrated and disappointed. I actually think disappointed is a 121 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: really interesting one. Because that indicates these were people who 122 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: were open to the Biden's presidency, being positive, they were 123 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: probably excited about them getting elected, and they're looking They're like, 124 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: you aren't delivering for me whatsoever. And this is the 125 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: other piece of the CBS News you Gov poll. Voters 126 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: do not feel like Democrats and Biden are focusing on 127 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: the issues that you care about. I mean, what could 128 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: be a more important metric here? So thirty nine percent, 129 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: that is the plurality of response here, say that they 130 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: feel like Biden Democrats are focusing on issues that they 131 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: don't care about at all. Almost forty percent say you're 132 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: focusing completely on the wrong issues, twenty eight percent say 133 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: I only care a little bit about the issues that 134 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: you're focused on, and only one third say that Biden 135 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: Democrats are focused on the issues that they care a 136 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: lot about. I dug into this a little bit more 137 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 1: because I thought, like, I mean, the obvious things that 138 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: voters care about right now are inflation in the economy. 139 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 1: But I thought, let me look economists. Yugov always does 140 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 1: a really thorough analysis of issue importance. So I looked 141 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: there to see, Okay, what are people naming as their 142 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: number one issue? And actually the number one issue according 143 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: to the last economist y goov survey was healthcare. Number 144 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: two was jobs and economy. They were very closely tied 145 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: for one and two. Number three, it might be surprised on, 146 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: was actually climate. But when you consider that, you know, 147 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: I mean effectively right now, Democrats they're making this sort 148 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: of like theatrical display of caring about voting rights even 149 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: though they're not going to do anything there either, Like 150 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: no matter what issue you care about about outside of 151 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: grand standing. Around one to six, you would feel like 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: these people aren't aren't focused on your concerns because they're 153 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: just not doing much of anything at this point. The 154 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: reason Biden is so unpopular is Number one, You've got 155 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 1: half the country which, like he says, pissed about gas prices, 156 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: pissed about bare shell shelves in the grocery store, high prices, 157 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: supply chains, all of that. But then you pointed this out, 158 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: the biggest swing amongst people for disapproval has actually been 159 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: amongst younger folks. And so that's where you bring in 160 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: the healthcare and the climate numbers. You have a base 161 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: of Democratic voters, you know, generally much more left liberal 162 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: than the generic population. Those people also disappointed with Biden, 163 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,439 Speaker 1: so he leaves pleasing nobody. I mean, he's got basically 164 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: zero constituency who's excited about seeing him in office. I 165 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 1: say this all the time. I mean, Trump and his 166 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: numbers are not all that disimilar, but Trunk's strong. Trump's 167 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: strong approval of people who had crawl through broken glass 168 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: for the man never drop below like ninety five percent 169 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: approval In terms of the Republican Party, It's because they 170 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: always felt at its core that he was representing them. 171 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: So with Biden, he's got no strong support. He's also 172 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 1: just got a national tide and national circumstances of which 173 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: he does not just seem to care about doing anything about. 174 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:24,920 Speaker 1: And I was thinking about it here. You know, you 175 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 1: see this meme online of Republicans being like bear shelves 176 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: Biden and look like he didn't invent the snowstorm. Okay, 177 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: but that being said, I mean, why does the president 178 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: in the White House not put out an order saying 179 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: we are moving to fortify our supply chains. We will 180 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: make it so that the National Guard clears the roads 181 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: and make sure that no empties, you know, no grocery 182 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 1: shelf will be will be bear in this time of crisis. 183 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 1: You could just say that and do it would cost 184 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:53,320 Speaker 1: not that much money. I mean, call a governmental task force, 185 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: have a bunch of calls with the governors, do it publicly. Instead, 186 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: he's in like rehob Beach doing nothing like This is 187 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: the part where I just don't get it. Same with 188 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: gas prices. Gas prices are still very high. I mean 189 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: the more and you look in terms of the prices 190 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: of California and flos down in Florida. I mean it 191 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: was like four dollars in terms of in terms of 192 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: the price four to fifty or something, the price of gas. 193 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: That's outrageous. The President should be attacking and talking about 194 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: this every single day. Talk that he tapped the spr 195 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 1: one time, okay, I mean once, drag the Saudi king 196 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: over here, do something. Yeah, go over there. I don't know. 197 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,599 Speaker 1: I mean show America that the number one thing of 198 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 1: their concern gas prices, which is fifty percent of all 199 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: inflation in the year twenty twenty one, is something that 200 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: you care deeply about doing about. I mean just in 201 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: general in terms of that disconnected This is why build 202 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: back better voting rights. Nobody understands what's happening. They just 203 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: know they're paying more and he does nothing. Is this 204 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: is why he is a failed president. In my opinion, 205 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: he is truly one of the least effectual presidents in 206 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: our lifetime. I mean, it really has gotten that bad. 207 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: Strike has been bad, the use of the bully pulpit 208 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: has been bad. The disconnect from what people really care about. 209 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, on every level, it is completely failed. And 210 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's this sort of like sneering attitude that 211 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 1: comes especially from Jensaki when reporters question her and question 212 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: the administration in their moves. Most famously when it was like, okay, well, 213 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: why don't you send tests downs? Oh you want me 214 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: to send tests? Yes, coronavirus, Yeah, we actually do other counts. 215 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: They're doing that. Why the hell can't we do that too? 216 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: But you know, they love to say like, well, the 217 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 1: president doesn't have a magic wand voters know that, Okay, 218 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: the American public isn't stupid. They don't think that you 219 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: can just snap your fingers to fix all the problems 220 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: of the country, but they would like to see at 221 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: least put in some effort. So there's a little bit 222 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: of a narrative that I've seen in the media, especially 223 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: in right leaning media, that's like, oh, the Democrats went 224 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: too far, too fast, they tried to do too much. 225 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: That's actually not the issue. The issue is that they 226 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: haven't delivered on anything. They have not had a single 227 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 1: coherent message and yes, the things that they should be 228 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: fighting for and focused on, things like lifting wages, things 229 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: like directly combating inflation, there hasn't been any really realistic 230 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: approach or any real efforts to put pressure on people 231 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: like Mansion, Cinema and others who are standing in the 232 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: way of those reforms. Rather than having this gigantic thing 233 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: build back better that no one could really get emotionally 234 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: invested in, put up each individual piece, Put paid sick 235 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: leave on the floor and dare Joe Mansion to vote 236 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: against it because you know what that thing is like 237 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: eighty five percent popularity. Put prescription drug price reform on 238 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: the floor and dare them to vote against it because 239 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: again eighty five percent popularity. Then you're actually making people uncomfortable. 240 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: And sometimes it'll work and sometimes it won't, but at 241 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: least people will see that you're doing something that is 242 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 1: relevant to their lives. And I do want to say 243 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: on the numbers of voters under thirty that have fled Biden. 244 00:12:57,120 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: This is astonishing. This is not the first survey that 245 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: has found this either. At the beginning of Biden administration, 246 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: seventy percent approval among voters under thirty, seventy percent, something 247 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: like sixty percent of them voted for this guy. Now 248 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: forty two percent. That's almost a thirty point swing. So again, 249 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: these weren't people who were hard and going in saying 250 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 1: I don't like Joe Biden and I don't believe that, 251 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: you know, he should be president or whatever. These are 252 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: people that believed in the promise of this administration have 253 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: been dramatically disappointed. And again top priorities there healthcare, climate 254 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 1: change areas. Again, healthcare is a no brainer during a pandemic. 255 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: I mean, put up some healthcare measures and dare people 256 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: to vote against it? Yeah you can. You don't even 257 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: have like this is always the point. People like what 258 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,719 Speaker 1: put medicare for all? Okay, maybe, I mean I don't 259 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 1: think that's going to pass. You could also break up 260 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: hospital cartels. That's actually pretty popular. Prescription drug price alone, 261 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: see the government hundreds of billions of dollars. You could 262 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 1: make it so that reimburse on COVID care not make 263 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: it so, and we'll get to this in the testing block. 264 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: But I can't help but mention it about Oh well, 265 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: the approved tests have to be a by your insurance 266 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,200 Speaker 1: company and it'll reimburse you up to eight tests per month. 267 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: And you file a claim. Yeah, okay, you lost me, 268 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: all right. If you lost me, you lost hundreds of 269 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 1: millions of people. It's a total failure all across the board. 270 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: Every area of life which is causing you nuisance is 271 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: not being focused on or even spoken about by the president. 272 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: So from that perspective of mine, you just see somebody 273 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: who's fundamentally bad at politics, both in here in Washington, 274 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: of getting his own people who openly scorn him, mansion 275 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: in cinema. They have nothing but upside at this point 276 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: from being seen to go against him. The Republicans obviously 277 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: zero incentive, probably never did. But then in terms of 278 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: popular support, like actual people who support you, nothing because 279 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: you're not doing anything to please anybody except what some 280 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: lobbyist groups and then some weird activist groups who are 281 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: very vocal online but not exactly a really even the 282 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: activist groups, I mean some of them boycotted his voting 283 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: rights spiece. They're like, you're not serious. That's when they're right. 284 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: They're totally right. So what does all this translate to? 285 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: And this is what's really SAgs. It's not like the 286 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: Republicans aren't even running on an agenda. They have nothing 287 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: to offer. We're about to cover their own sort of 288 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: like Republicans and disarray thing that's going on, But they're 289 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: poised for historic gains in the House of Representatives. Let's 290 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: go ahead and throw this tweet up on the screen. 291 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: This is from the UVA Center for Politics. Larry Sabato. 292 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: Our friend Kyle Condick, who we use on this show, 293 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: is a very good analyst, had a hand in writing 294 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: and in this analysis. They write here, with some key 295 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: national favor factors seemingly in their favor, Republicans could win 296 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: a healthy majority in the House, perhaps even their biggest 297 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: in nearly a century. So, just to be clear, they're 298 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: not saying right now they're going to win their biggest 299 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 1: majority in nearly a century, but they're saying it's quite 300 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: possible that if some more balls continue to bounce their way, 301 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: they are in that position. So they would need thirty 302 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: five seats, They would need to pick up thirty five 303 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: seat in order to have that once in a century majority. 304 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: And the thing is that, you know, that would actually 305 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: be fewer seats than they gained and say twenty ten, 306 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: but they were starting from a lower number back going 307 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: into twenty ten. Now they already have a pretty high 308 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: number of seats that they hold. They're just, you know, 309 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: just barely three seats shy of having the majority already, 310 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: So they'd only need to pick up thirty five in 311 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: order to have that historic majority right now. So what 312 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: they're looking at more closely we talked about the party identification. 313 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: They're looking at the generic ballot, which a little bit 314 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: of a different metric but kind of similar, where you 315 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: basically ask for people, Okay, if we have in your 316 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: congressional district generic Republican, generic Democrat, who are going to 317 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: vote for So they're looking closely at that right now 318 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: that number is more or less even. But Republicans, because 319 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: they have this advantage in the House the way the 320 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,240 Speaker 1: lines are drawn, they don't have to have a huge 321 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: advantage on the generic ballot in order to make significant 322 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: gains here. So right now they're predicting that Republicans are 323 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: more likely to pick up somewhere in the twenty seat range, 324 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: but it is not out of question, out of the 325 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: question that they would pick up that historic once in 326 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: a century. And don't forget, a twenty seat gain is 327 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 1: still an incredibly large margin in the House because they're 328 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: only five seat shy, So that would put them well 329 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: within the region of being able to not pass next legislation, 330 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 1: obviously since Biden will still be president, but to block anything, 331 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: they would not even have a number. They basically think 332 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: about it this way. Their margin would be larger than 333 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: the current Democratic margin, and you can see already with 334 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: that current Democratic margin that just having a few seats 335 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: is enough in order to swing legislation. Republicans wouldn't have 336 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,439 Speaker 1: to deal with that with that large majority. What they 337 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: also point to here in the article is that all 338 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 1: they really have to do is perform better in areas 339 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,840 Speaker 1: where Biden did better than the median Democrat as in 340 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: places which swung more towards Biden but toward disproportionately a 341 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: little bit more conservative type district. If they just win those, 342 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,360 Speaker 1: they will win control. So there are seven seats they 343 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: say that Democrats won for Congress where Donald Trump carried 344 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: them for the presidency. So you have a situation where 345 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: the district overall voted for Trump, but they did vote 346 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: in a democratic representative. I mean, if they did nothing 347 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 1: other than just win those seven seats win, then they're 348 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: in control. And I think every analyst basically at this 349 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:30,719 Speaker 1: point expects them to do a lot more than that. So, 350 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 1: you know, Democrats are acting like they had all this 351 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: language about the existential stakes democracy on the ballot and 352 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: climate crisis on the ballot and whatever, and they win 353 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: control of the House and the Senate and the presidency. 354 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: So what is your case for keeping you in power 355 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: when you're telling us you can't do anything with that power, Like, 356 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: that's a difficult case to make. Devoters keep us there 357 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: so we can continue doing nothing, all right? That sounds 358 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: like a wonderful sales pitch, and I can see how 359 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: well it's working out. That's the Obama pitch. The other 360 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: people are worse, right, voting for us works out real well. 361 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 1: Don't worry though, our friends on the other side but 362 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: clowning themselves. I've watched this with great interest, and I 363 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: knew it was inevitable to happen, which is that as 364 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,159 Speaker 1: Ron DeSantis has really grown in the media become very 365 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 1: much a Republican figure who is beloved by a certain 366 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: activist class here in Washington. What I mean by that 367 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: are people who look at DeSantis and are like, well, 368 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, the guy's Ivy League educated, Like he's actually smart, 369 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: Like he doesn't talk like a buffoon, and none of 370 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: the drama, but is actually able in order to implement 371 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: some of these actual trump Is style policies. He's actually 372 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: quite popular in the state of Florida, obviously a national 373 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: icon and leading against lockdowns. I knew Trump was gonna 374 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: get jealous, and it really showed its head recently. In 375 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:55,919 Speaker 1: that interview which we brought you but for those who 376 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,919 Speaker 1: haven't seen it, Trump ripped DeSantis not by name, but 377 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: called him gutlet As because Desantas had been interviewed previously 378 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: refused to reveal his booster status. Look at the language 379 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: that Trump gave in a very unsolicited shot at DeSantis 380 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,719 Speaker 1: in an interview. Let's take a listen. Do you reconsider 381 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: your push for it or what's your view now on 382 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: the vaccine in job? Well, I've taken it. I've had 383 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: the booster many politicians. I watched a couple of politicians 384 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: be interviewed, and one of the questions was did you 385 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: get the booster because they had the vaccine, and they, oh, 386 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: they're answering it like in other words, he answers yes, 387 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: but they don't want to say it because they've gutless. 388 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: You got to say it, whether you had it or 389 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 1: not say it. But the fact is that I think 390 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: the vaccine has saved tens of millions of people throughout 391 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,160 Speaker 1: the world. I've had absolutely no side effects. I've had 392 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: it like other people have had it. Nothing special. I've 393 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: had it. So that was very important calling out DeSantis 394 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: gutless in the state of Florida, where Trump obviously lives. 395 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: DeSantis fired back almost exactly the next day. He was 396 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 1: interviewed on a podcast. Let's go ahead and put this 397 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: up there on the screen, where DeSantis says he regrets 398 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: not opposing and this is very important terminology the Trump 399 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: administration lockdown in the earliest days of the virus. So 400 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: he went ahead, and then quickly he goes, well, and 401 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: it actually it was Fauci. So both of these men 402 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: kind of engage Crystal in a cold war. But all 403 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: of it blew up in the New York Times and look, 404 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: I'm people out there who are skeptical of anonymous sources, 405 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 1: et cetera, you should be. But this is a very 406 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: clearly planted story and part of a concerted campaign by 407 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: some Trump aids, probably a green lit by Trump himself 408 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: in order to go out in the press and slam Desantas. 409 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and put this up there on 410 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: the screen. Who is the king of Florida? Tensions rise 411 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 1: between Trump and a former acolyte, and in Axios, literally 412 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: the very same day, Trump dogs quote dulled Desantas ahead 413 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 1: of potential twenty twenty four. Two of those things drop 414 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: in the national media within a span of twenty four hours, 415 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: both source to people who are around Trump, and in 416 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 1: both cases, you know you have a basically Trump who 417 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: thinks DeSantis is too big for his birches. And Trump's 418 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: basic complaint against DeSantis is that DeSantis refuses to say 419 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: that he won't run if Trump runs in twenty twenty four, 420 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: or that's his main gripe. Trump is like, how dare 421 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: this guy made him? Yes, he had wouldn't run against him. 422 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: The most classic Trump actually interviewed Trump right after the 423 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: election in Florida, and I remember him being Likesantis. This guy, 424 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 1: he was a nobody and Trump comes in thirty five points. 425 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 1: You know, he was like, I'll never forget it. He 426 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 1: was like he had it convinced in his mind that 427 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: Trump was He was like, I'm the only reason Ron 428 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: DeSantis won in the state of Florida. So he thinks 429 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: DeSantis owes him for his victory. Look, that is kind 430 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 1: of true in terms of at least pushing him up 431 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 1: in the Republican primary. And now he's that DeSantis won't 432 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: bow down and you basically swear fealty to the king. 433 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: And there's some very nasty shots. It's interesting too, though, 434 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 1: because I don't really know what DeSantis is thinking. Crystal 435 00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: DeSantis seems to think that he's asking too much, that 436 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: he himself is very popular. I mean, yeah, that's true, 437 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: but I mean the idea that you're gonna take on 438 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: Trump in a primary or even here in a little spat, 439 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: I mean, dude, like, no chance in terms of the 440 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: Republican base. And there's a lot of people here in 441 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 1: DC who love DeSantis because he's not like Trump, who 442 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: are like, no, Ron, you know, he's the chosen one, 443 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: He's the good one. I like Ron DeSantis, there's no 444 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,399 Speaker 1: way in hell he would win a Republican primary. I 445 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: don't know what he's like. I think what he's thinking 446 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: is he's spending too much times. That's what's happening. It's 447 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: very easy to have a bubble. Aridy is telling we're 448 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: over Trump, he's done, he's finished. Actually in culture, yeah, 449 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: gave a quote to The Times in this place that 450 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 1: was like, for forget about Trump, He's over. She had. 451 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, exactly exactly. I mean she's been over 452 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 1: Trump for a while now, but the rest of the 453 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: Republican base not so much. I loved Trump, so I do. 454 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: I will look back at the margin because I was 455 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: trying to remember, remember DeSantis went up against Andrew Gillum. Yeah, 456 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: it was actually very close, zero point four percent. It 457 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 1: was the closest race of all the twenty eighteen gubernatorial elections. So, 458 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: you know, to to the to the extent that Trump 459 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: had any impact on that race, if it was positive, he, 460 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: I guess could make the claim that DeSantis is there 461 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: because of him. But you know the other thing that's 462 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: funny about DeSantis's criticism here saying regrets not speaking out 463 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: against the Trump lockdowns. DeSantis himself in Florida. This is 464 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: a little bit forgotten history, but he went further than 465 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 1: Trump did in terms of lockdowns in the state. He 466 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: ordered schools to shut down, he closed down bars, he 467 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 1: prohibited indoor dining. He even banned travelers from New York, 468 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Connecticut, and Louisiana, required them to self isolate 469 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: for two weeks. He had at least checkpoints set up 470 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: on interstates to make sure that travelers weren't violating his 471 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,800 Speaker 1: requirement that they quarantined for two weeks when they came 472 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,160 Speaker 1: to the state. Now, again this is kind of forgotten 473 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: because then he switched tax and over the summer really 474 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: opened things up and became, you know, the subject of 475 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: a lot of national conversation about whether his COVID policies 476 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: were going to lead to tremendous spikes and deaths and 477 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: all of those things. But not only did he not 478 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: push back on the Trump lockdowns, he took it even 479 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,199 Speaker 1: a step further. So I think it's going to be 480 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,199 Speaker 1: hard for him to kind of hold these positions. And 481 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:34,959 Speaker 1: also on the booster thing, if you could imagine them 482 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: on a debate stage together, where Trump's like just say it, 483 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: you know, just say whether you had why wouldn't you 484 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: say anytime you try to get into this weasly place 485 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: of having it both ways, it's it's blitting the water 486 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,679 Speaker 1: for a guy like Trump has a great instinct for 487 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: going in for the kill. I think at the end 488 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: of the day, it's about his confidence, which is Trump 489 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: really doesn't care about the He doesn't really care if 490 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: there is you know, quote unquote anti booster sentiment or 491 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 1: whatever amongst his base. And also I think Trump still 492 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: has a better read of all of this. You know, 493 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of boomers in this country are vaccinated, 494 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: fully vaccinated ninety five percent, which are all of the 495 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: people who vote in the primary and constitute a huge 496 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: portion of the base. I mean, whenever you play foot 497 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: see with this stuff, it really goes to show that Trump, 498 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: I think, has a better read of what his elderly 499 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: constituents and what the national message is. And I've said 500 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: this before, I mean it kind of shows you what 501 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: an alternative history would look like if Trump never was 502 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 1: banned off of Twitter. But DeSantis in general, I have 503 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: no idea what he's thinking here because in look, there 504 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: is no way that you rate amongst the average Republican 505 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: in any way compared to Donald Trump. Trump is the 506 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 1: most significant figure in the Republican Party and beloved since 507 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan. I'm not saying this is an endorsement. I'm 508 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: telling you the basic facts. But also, whenever you go 509 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: when you had a look at the head to head matchups, 510 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: somebody who sent me this most recently, they went ahead 511 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: and pulled Joe Biden and Rondas and what they found 512 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: is that Trump is tied with Biden. Yeah, and DeSantis 513 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: trails Biden by like seven points. Now they would say, oh, 514 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: nobody knows his name. All of this, Okay, maybe I 515 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: would also put this as a problem for DeSantis, which 516 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: is and this was a very inside baseball story, so 517 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: forgive me, but I can understand at least the currents 518 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: of this. He has an incredibly high staff turnover amongst 519 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,479 Speaker 1: political consultants. So really, now that doesn't sound like something, 520 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: but it shows you that A he's either difficult to 521 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: work with, but b he has not built his own 522 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 1: real political operation in Florida. That's national. He doesn't have 523 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: his own style of people and who are you know, 524 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: dedicated loyal to him? These are all the things that 525 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: you actually have to think about when you run for president. Now, yeah, 526 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: you're right, the counter is Donald Trump. Well Trump was 527 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: in home alone too, and he was famous for like 528 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: forty years. So like, if you are that, that's fine. 529 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: Otherwise you have to go with the more traditional route. 530 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 1: And from what I'm hearing in terms of donors who 531 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: are independently would back a DeSantis over a Trump, they 532 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: just don't really exist, Like he doesn't have his own 533 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: constituency of donors, of political activist class, more importantly, of voters. 534 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean, there is just no mean Republican voter who 535 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: is going to choose Ron DeSantis over Donald Trump. These 536 00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: are just basic facts. So it's very odd war DeSantis 537 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: would do himself a lot of favors just by going 538 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: to Trump and being like, look, I'm not going to 539 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: run just for his own political future if he actually 540 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: wants to do that, and I think he's a little 541 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: bit too high on his own supply, Crystal, Yeah, definitely 542 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: seems that way. I mean, there's just look, Trump's got 543 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: a stranglehold on the party. The only thing that matters 544 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 1: to him is your loyalty to That's it. It's the 545 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: one thing that you cannot stray on. You can do 546 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: whatever you want policy wise. Honestly, he doesn't care at 547 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: all about what policies you pursue, whether you're in a 548 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: different place on borders or COVID or man any of it. 549 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: He doesn't care. All he cares about is that you 550 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: say what he calls the magic words, that you will 551 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 1: not oppose him, you will be loyal till the end. 552 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: That's the only thing that ultimately matters to him. And 553 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: like you said, listen, there's a lot of media figure 554 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: and you know, the sort of thinking class in DC 555 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: on the right who want to be done with Trump. 556 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 1: But the reality is that the GOP base isn't done 557 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: with Trump. So twenty twenty four is going to hinge 558 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: one on what he decided. Let me just underscore two 559 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: about how much this is about loyalty. I least staphonic 560 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: from New York. You know, this is somebody who's endorsed 561 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: like the Equality Act, who's basically pro choice, who is 562 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: like anyway, fails many of the litmus tests for what 563 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: a supposed Republican is. Trump just five days ago said 564 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: that she could be president in twenty twenty eight. Right. 565 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: You know why because she kisses his ass during impeachment, 566 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: and she goes down to mar A Lago and bows down, 567 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: and then Trump is like, She's going to be president 568 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: in six years, a huge star. He doesn't care about 569 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: lockdowns any of that stuff. He just cares about whether 570 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: that you suck up to him and are willing to 571 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: bow down. So Ron, if you're listening, that's probably the 572 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: best course. You know, you cast or die if you 573 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: want to work in Republican politics in the year twenty 574 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: twenty two. This, this is just how it goes. I 575 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know what else to say. Let's go ahead and 576 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: move on to testing. I alluded a little bit of 577 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: this in our a block, but the current Biden administration 578 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: plan for distributing rapid tests, which they promised at the 579 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: height of the omicron wave, is a complete and total joke. 580 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and put this up there on 581 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: the screen. So starting tomorrow, January nineteenth, Americans will be 582 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: able to order their tests online at COVID tests dot gov. 583 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's great. However, tests will typically ship between seven 584 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: to twelve days of ordering. There are a limited number 585 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: of tests that you can even get, so with a 586 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: slow turnaround time, you can order four free at home tests. 587 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: You may not be able to get more in the future. 588 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: The US has not actually secured the supply of that 589 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: crystal in terms of the future ones, and we're still 590 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: working on different vendors. You can wait seven to twelve 591 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 1: days to get to a test while the omicron wave 592 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: continues to abate. So do I have that right? I mean, 593 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: what a complete test amout. At the time you actually 594 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: get a test, omicron will be over. You will be fine. Yeah, 595 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: you will have nothing. And what really annoys me even 596 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: more is that, beyond the free at home COVID tests 597 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: I alluded to this earlier, Americans will be allowed under 598 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: the Biden Plan to have their insurance cover up to 599 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: eight COVID tests per month. However, those COVID tests have 600 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: to be approved by your insurance company. You can't just 601 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: grab any old COVID tests off the shelf. It has 602 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: to be one which is in network, and then if 603 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: it is out of network, they'll reimburse you up to 604 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: twenty five dollars and you have to do paperwork. Once again, 605 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: you lost me. Nobody's going to do that. It's the 606 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: most convoluted BS system in the world. Everywhere else just 607 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: gives you a freaking test. They or they either send 608 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: them out or they have them widely available at pharmacies 609 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: for a dollar. In Germany, for example, you can just 610 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: go and there's no worries about shortage. You just go in. 611 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: You're like, hey, dollar, here's five tests. That's it. I 612 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: was telling you this. My dad just got back from India. 613 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: I am having him bring me home tests from there. 614 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: Because they don't have the same FDA regulation. You could 615 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: buy as many as you want and just put them 616 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: in a suitcase. What kind of failed country is this? 617 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 1: They have a billion point five people over there and 618 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: we have three hundred million. Really sad, It's complete, It's like, 619 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: I don't even know how to describe it. It's a 620 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: failure of the regulatory state, of the administrative state, of 621 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: the White House of vision the entire country. The only 622 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: good news we have is that omicron does seem to 623 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 1: be abating, especially in some of the hotspots. So let's 624 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 1: go ahead and put this up there on the screen, 625 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,720 Speaker 1: which is that you can see that this is a 626 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: graph of cases per day in New York City. New 627 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: York City very much was the beginning kind of the 628 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: omicron wave. You can see that there has been a 629 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: pretty dramatic tip in the seven day average. So ninety 630 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: percent of sequence cases for omicron began there right in 631 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: the middle of December, and now after about a couple 632 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 1: of weeks it begins to go down. I shouldn't say 633 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: that it's going to be gone. That was obviously in 634 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: New York, so it still has to burn through the 635 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: rest of the country. But at this point the facts 636 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: are clear. You probably will get omicron or be exposed 637 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: to it in some way. This is very likely to 638 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: be milder. We know this too analysis of the data. 639 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: Let's put it up there on the screen. David Lee 640 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: and Hart and his review of the evidence very clear 641 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: that omicron is milder in terms of its severity, both 642 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: in terms of how it impacts you and in terms 643 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: of hospitalizations and death. I can tell you this. I 644 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: know multiple people, including my own mother, who got omicron 645 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: and others. They did not suffer even close to the 646 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: same amount of symptoms that I did, despite the fact 647 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: that I was vaccinated and got delta. Yeah, I know, 648 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm like so sol like, you know one of those 649 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: people who got delta post vaccination. But it's okay, I 650 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: like to think that I have decent antibodies, so the 651 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: testing regime is a complete and total Joe Crystal. However, 652 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: the good news is is that the cases seemed to 653 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: be getting better. Yeah, and it's actually not just in 654 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: New York City. They say recent data also shows a 655 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: downward trend in other North Eastern states New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, 656 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: and Ruver Rhode Island. Those are all really encouraging signs. 657 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 1: And that is the trend that we saw around the 658 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: world too, huge spike and then pretty precipitous fall off. 659 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: So fingers crossed that we're had in the same direction there. 660 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: And it's not just the new case numbers. Also the 661 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: test positivity rates are down as well. New York Governor 662 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: Kathy Hochel gave a press conference saying, you know, it 663 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,200 Speaker 1: looks like the clouds are parting a bit. Obviously, fingers 664 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: crossed that those trends continuing and we don't get another 665 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: terrible variant to have to deal with on what we 666 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: know now about omicron. Basically our hopes, you know that 667 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: it would be milder. It has come to fruition, and 668 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: not only are you much less likely to go to 669 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: the hospital with omicron. But even those and this is 670 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: what David lean Hurnt was tracking, even those people who 671 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: do need hospital care, their symptoms are milder on average 672 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: than people who were hospitalized in previous waves. So you're 673 00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: less likely to go to the hospital with omicron. If 674 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: you do end up in the hospital, you are more 675 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: likely to have milder symptoms than previous hospitalization waves. And 676 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: we haven't seen a big spike in deaths. Now that's 677 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: a trailing indicator, so it's possible that you see deaths 678 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: jump up here, you know, as we as we move 679 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,920 Speaker 1: through time, But so far that hasn't been what has happened, 680 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 1: and that is really you know, that's really important. I mean, 681 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: I do want to say, I think it's really important. 682 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: The hospital staff being stressed, in the hospitals, being overwhelmed 683 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: in these places, that's a real thing, and it is 684 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: a real problem, especially when you have a lot of 685 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: healthcare staff that have quitter retired over the last year, 686 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: so they already had limited staffing capacity. And then even 687 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,440 Speaker 1: if you have someone who is coming in with omicron, 688 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: not because of omicron, you still have to go through 689 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: special procedures because they're infectious, and you have to you know, 690 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,279 Speaker 1: it takes additional resources, both from a space perspective and 691 00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: from a staffing perspective. So those are real burdens being 692 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: put on the hospitals. But there is good news here 693 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: that could indicate that we are on sort of, you know, 694 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: the downward slope significantly of the omicron wave. Yeah. I 695 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:10,399 Speaker 1: think that's right, and I think that I really am 696 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: focusing on where the future is. My monlogue is going 697 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: to be about school masking and about the future politics 698 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: and the wars over that. But as we begin to 699 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: look at this, a wide availability of tests, even with 700 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,960 Speaker 1: the annoying regime now put into place by the US 701 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: government in terms of four tests and more, the massive 702 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,399 Speaker 1: amount of natural immunity that has now been accrued by 703 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,360 Speaker 1: the population bone in terms of fax immunity and in 704 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: terms of antibodies that people get from being infected with 705 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: the virus. On top of the people who are elderly 706 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 1: imm compromised who absolutely did need the booster shot, and 707 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 1: it does seem that that has kept them very much 708 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:47,479 Speaker 1: and so out of the hospital. I saw some recent 709 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 1: data that boosters amongst people who are age sixty five 710 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: reduce their hospitalization rate to the same level as the 711 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: generic hospitalization rate for normal COVID of twelve to twenty 712 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: five year old people. That's great, fantastic news. So if 713 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: you're old or you have a BMI that makes you obese, 714 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: that's definitely something that you should consider. That thing is 715 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 1: and you know, we continue to look is you put 716 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 1: all that together. The off ripe is here, and it's 717 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: been here now for a while. Omicron is what brought 718 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: back a lot of the restrictions, but they really don't 719 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: have a lot of excuses at this point. You're right 720 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 1: about the strained hospitals. However, we still don't see so 721 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: the return of triage care that we saw in New 722 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: York City at the height of the way, we don't 723 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: see you know, the ICU beds or whatever at one 724 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: hundred percent capacity. And another thing I want to note 725 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: here because none of people tell you this. You know, 726 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: iced US normally run at sixty sixty five percent capacity. 727 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,359 Speaker 1: I had no idea about that. So when I hear 728 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 1: ic users seventy five percent, well, if you don't know 729 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: the baseline, then you don't really know what that actually means. 730 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,040 Speaker 1: So when they're saying strain, yeah, it's like ten fifteen 731 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 1: twenty percent more, not downplaying it for the people who 732 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 1: are in the hospitals, but ICUs are actually built in 733 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,240 Speaker 1: order to be occupied. Makes sense because it's super expensive 734 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: and you shouldn't have nobody in the beds anyway. So 735 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: really what I would say is off rampus here, the 736 00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: tests are now available, You can live your life. We 737 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: have a very good preview of what the future will 738 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 1: probably look like. And if you look at the nineteen 739 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,760 Speaker 1: eighteen flu pandemic, this is exactly what happened. I didn't 740 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 1: know this either. I have been recently doing some research 741 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 1: which is that the part of the seasonal influenza that 742 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 1: we have now, the little remnants of that are from 743 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: the nineteen eighteen flu. What happened is is that the 744 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 1: flu came, it was extremely virulent, had two waves in 745 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: which it killed a lot of people, and then just 746 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: basically just like omicron, in order to become more infectious, 747 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: becomes less deadly, and then parts of that virus will 748 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: simply just float around. So the thesis around coronavirus is 749 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 1: that currently the common cold is nine different rhino or coronaviruses. 750 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Is that this will sip COVID nineteen will become a 751 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: part of what we all collectively know as the seasonal 752 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,719 Speaker 1: flu within I don't know a couple of years, maybe 753 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 1: by next year. Hopefully this is the last winter that 754 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 1: we have to do this thing. Indeed, so anieway a 755 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,600 Speaker 1: little bit of good news there, even as the administration. 756 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to cover this in my monologue, but Commelin 757 00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: her interview telling people if you're having trouble finding a test, 758 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,959 Speaker 1: just google it, gay Google, take some personal responsibility. Google harder. 759 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 1: Then I'm sure you can find a test. I went 760 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: to twelve different stores or called went to or called 761 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: twelve different stores. They had nothing. You had to like 762 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: stake down a Walmart at two am for when the 763 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: truck drew arrived. So thank you, madam Vice President for 764 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: that helpful piece of advice. Thank you, ma'am. Okay, So 765 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: this is pretty interesting. So something we've been tracking here, 766 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,640 Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people have been tracking 767 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: across the political spectrum is the fact that out of 768 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: January sixth, you had a lot of rhetoric from the 769 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 1: government that was this is treason, this is sedition, and 770 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: yet the charges that had been filed up until last 771 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: week were relatively low level charges. They were things like 772 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: trespassing or things like vandalism or things like it's like 773 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 1: obstructing an official government proceeding or something like that. So 774 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: we now have the first higher level charges. Let's go 775 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: ahead and throw this New York Times tear sheet up 776 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: on the screen. The headline here is says both Keeper 777 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: leader charged with seditious conspiracy. In January six investigation, the 778 00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: FBI arrested Stuart Rhodes. He's the founder of the far 779 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: right militia and a major step forward in the investigation 780 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 1: into the attack on the Capitol by supporters of Donald J. Trump. 781 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: So first I want to give you kind of like 782 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: the straight news facts here, and then I'll tell you 783 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: a little bit about I read the indictment and what 784 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: I took from it, at least. So the lead here 785 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 1: says Stuart Rhodes, leader and founder of Oathkeepers, was arrested 786 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday, charge along with ten other Oathkeepers with seditious 787 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 1: conspiracy over what prosecutors said was their wide ranging plot 788 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: to storm the Capitol on January sixth last year and 789 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:43,280 Speaker 1: disrupt the certification of Joseph R. Biden Junior's electoral victory. 790 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,880 Speaker 1: They are the first to be charged with sedition among 791 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,360 Speaker 1: the more than seven hundred people who are accused so 792 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,919 Speaker 1: far of taking part in the assault. This charge can 793 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,239 Speaker 1: be very difficult to prove because it requires prosecutors to 794 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: show that at least two people agreed to use force 795 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: to overthrow government authority or delay the execution of a 796 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: US law. It carries a maximum sentence of twenty years 797 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:12,160 Speaker 1: in prison. The last time that the government charged anyone 798 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: with seditious conspiracy, they weren't unable to prove the case. 799 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: I think we have that tearsheet as well. We can 800 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,360 Speaker 1: throw that up on the screen. US judge in Michigan 801 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: acquits militia members of sedition. Basically, the judge found that 802 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: they didn't go beyond their sort of First Amendment political speech. 803 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 1: And so the bottom line here is that this can 804 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 1: be a very difficult charge ultimately to prove the oath keepers. 805 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,799 Speaker 1: Some of the oath keepers who were charged here, by 806 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: the way, they say they were really there and this 807 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,040 Speaker 1: is kind of laughable to protect conservative celebrities like Roger Stone. 808 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,920 Speaker 1: Oh okay, that was the real reason that they were 809 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: there storming the capitol on January six. Okay, guys. The 810 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 1: other important piece from this New York Times story is 811 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 1: apparently at least four oath keepers are now cooperating with 812 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: the government, and I've sworn court papers the group intended 813 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: to reach the building with the goal of obstructing the 814 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 1: final certification of the Electoral College vote. Okay, So I 815 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: read through the indictment and basically it was the saddest 816 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: fifty pages I have ever read. Okay, because you've got 817 00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,239 Speaker 1: these dudes, and I don't want to downplay what they did. 818 00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: They showed up in Virginia, not actually in DC, but 819 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: in Virginia with all of these thousands of thousands of 820 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 1: dollars worth of weapons and AMMO and tactical gear, and 821 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: they were there doing their little you know, military formation, 822 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: marching into the capitol and their tactical gear costumes, and 823 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,759 Speaker 1: at least one of them is charged with assaults of 824 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: a police officer. So I'm not downplaying that this was 825 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: these people are idiots, it was a dangerous situation, and 826 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 1: that this was, you know, none of this was good. However, 827 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: it's also really clear from reading the indictment number one, 828 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: they were nowhere close to actually like effectuating a coup. 829 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: Yes two, most of they spent months like building each 830 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 1: other up with all this talk of like what weapons 831 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,359 Speaker 1: they're bun and how the civil war's coming and there's 832 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: gonna be blood in the streets, and this was the 833 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: moment that they'd signed up for and all of this stuff. Okay, 834 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: they even went so far as one of them was 835 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: floating like, let's get boats and then we can have 836 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,359 Speaker 1: our AMMO on the boats. They set up these at 837 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,320 Speaker 1: these hotels in Virginia with their AMMO because obviously Virginia's 838 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: gun laws are way more permissive than DC's, so they 839 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: didn't bring weapons into DC. But they're like, let's have 840 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,759 Speaker 1: the AMMO ready to go on the boats, and then 841 00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 1: when it all goes down, we can just ferry them 842 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: across the river with our troops with our backup, and 843 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: we'll we'll be ready for revolution where patriots like the founders, 844 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. So this is their talk, okay, 845 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: leading into this. Then on the day of what do 846 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: they actually do. They go, they're part of the mob 847 00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: that storms into the capitol, some of them certainly behave violently, 848 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 1: and then they leave, they dip they sped to the capital. 849 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: By the way, I like to this detail in the 850 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:09,439 Speaker 1: indictement on golf carts, okay, wearing their LARPing tactical gear costumes, 851 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: march around like tough guys, and I think there's a 852 00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: woman charge here, maybe a couple of women. And then 853 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 1: they dip and they go to Olive Garden to celebrate. Okay, 854 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: that was there, that was their civil war. And then 855 00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,720 Speaker 1: they continue to have this talk on their WhatsApp channels 856 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,840 Speaker 1: and whatever about oh, this is just the beginning, and 857 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,240 Speaker 1: we're going to continue and let's go on our reconmissions 858 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: and whatever. Do they do anything else other than like 859 00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,680 Speaker 1: drive around the capitol for to do their pretend fake reconmissions. 860 00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: No they don't. So they have all this talk again 861 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: and all these preparations for their bloody civil war. But 862 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 1: when it comes down to it, these tough guys who 863 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: clearly are trying to fill some hole inside of themselves 864 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,840 Speaker 1: by engaging in all of this like expensive cose playing, 865 00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: didn't do a whole lot. And and again, if this 866 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,760 Speaker 1: was the most aggressive and well organized plot to overthrow 867 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,400 Speaker 1: the Republic, then I actually feel a lot better that 868 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 1: the Republic is pretty safe. Oh, I completely agree, And 869 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,480 Speaker 1: like you said, nobody's downplaying what these idiots were doing. 870 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: They were absolutely you know, narcissistic LARPers in their group 871 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,200 Speaker 1: chats and clearly we're you know, bringing AMMO and other 872 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: supplies to Washington with the stated intent to actually do something, 873 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: and then, as usual with these people, when it fizzled, 874 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: what actually happens does not look even close to the 875 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: tough talk that they usually you know, will display amongst themselves. 876 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: The key part here is around the sedition charge, which 877 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,680 Speaker 1: is that sedition is very very difficult to prove. I 878 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: mean in terms of what the government would have to 879 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: prove here is that they were willingly and almost actually 880 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: had the ability in order to delay the impact of 881 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: this law. Now, election certification is not a law number one, 882 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: but number two, overthrowing the government. Yeah, it may have 883 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,920 Speaker 1: been what they said, you know, in terms of their messages, 884 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,719 Speaker 1: but remember the First Amendment actually does cover a lot 885 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: of anti government rhetoric. So they have a very very 886 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: strong case in order to try and make I find 887 00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,160 Speaker 1: it very difficult to see how they're going to be 888 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,560 Speaker 1: able to prevail here in court. I know there will 889 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: be under overwhelming pressure against them. I don't know why 890 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,839 Speaker 1: you can't just charge these people with rioting like everybody else. 891 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's ultimately what this is about. So it 892 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,320 Speaker 1: looks almost crystal like a political move by the Department 893 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: of Justice to mollify the critics saying why have you 894 00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,120 Speaker 1: not brought harder charges against the people, and also frankly, 895 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,439 Speaker 1: to try and silence I think people like us who 896 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,320 Speaker 1: are saying, hey, if all these ring leaders were there, 897 00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,359 Speaker 1: like why have you not charged them? You read through 898 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,520 Speaker 1: the indictment of what we saw here, I mean, does 899 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 1: it rise to the level of what the media portrays 900 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,799 Speaker 1: like this what actually was d You believed that these 901 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,960 Speaker 1: folks had a real chance at right success and that 902 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: there you know, their sort of cosplay preparations translated into 903 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: their actions on that day. And again, I don't want 904 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 1: to be I don't want to downplay because what they 905 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 1: did caused a lot of harm and pain for the country. 906 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: There's no doubt, like, this was a horrible day. It was, 907 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, terrible to watch. It was another sign of 908 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 1: the deep decline of the nation and it's kind of unraveling. 909 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,319 Speaker 1: It was. It was painful and and it was a 910 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: dangerous situation too. Obviously, there were people who lost their 911 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: lives on that day, and for the lawmakers and the 912 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: journalists and the cops who were there, this was extraordinarily 913 00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: frightening and difficult and violent and all of all of 914 00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,320 Speaker 1: those things. But ultimately their words did not come close 915 00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: to matching the actual actions of that day. And so 916 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,359 Speaker 1: if this was the conspiracy, and you know, maybe there 917 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: are more charges to come, but if this was the 918 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 1: most organized attempt to overthrow the government, then you should 919 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: actually feel kind of comforted that, you know, this this 920 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: was not going to come even close, like they were 921 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,560 Speaker 1: not even going to come close to achieving what they 922 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: said was their stated goal. So anyway, I actually thought 923 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 1: I would recommend to you actually reading this. And again, 924 00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: this is the government's version of events, which is always 925 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: important to keep in mind, although they do clearly have 926 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: cooperators who are providing them with the text messages and stuff, 927 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: so you can read what exactly was being said and 928 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,319 Speaker 1: what plans were being made, et cetera. But so they're 929 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: putting their most forceful and scary and nefarious spin on it. 930 00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, I think it'll be a difficult 931 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,280 Speaker 1: charge to prove. I think it definitely there's the possibility 932 00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: that the government felt pressured to charge somebody with something 933 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,760 Speaker 1: other than like trespassing and vandalism and their obstructing official 934 00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:11,560 Speaker 1: government proceeding. People you know, were led to believe that 935 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: there was this super organized conspiracy with a chance of success, 936 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,799 Speaker 1: and so I think this is a stretch for the 937 00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: government ultimately to be able to prove. But I'm also 938 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,439 Speaker 1: not a legal expert, so we'll ultimately see where this goes. 939 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: The other thing, one other thing I want to say, 940 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: it'll be interesting also to see what we've learned a 941 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: lot about the Gratch and Whitmer quote unquote kidnapping plot 942 00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: as that court case has proceeded. So I will also 943 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:41,600 Speaker 1: be interested to see whether the oathkeepers had FBI informants 944 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 1: in their ranks, and whether they had fed infiltration or 945 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: if it's just people who after the fact kind of 946 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 1: turned and are now cooperating with the government to lessen 947 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: their own sense. Yeah, I think that's a very good point. 948 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,879 Speaker 1: You know, I went ahead and looked the last time 949 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,439 Speaker 1: that anybody even remotely like this, a you know, white 950 00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:00,760 Speaker 1: nationalist group were indicted for seditious conspiracy in nine eighty seven. 951 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: All ten of the people who were put on trial 952 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,360 Speaker 1: were acquitted and This was a much more serious plot. 953 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,799 Speaker 1: It was called the Fort smith Sedition trial, that were 954 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,879 Speaker 1: plotting to take over a US base and actually assassinate 955 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 1: military officials. But the burden of proof is very high. 956 00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: The last person who was convicted, notably of seditious conspiracy 957 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: was sheaik Omar abdel Rachman. That's the blind shaikh who 958 00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 1: inspired the nineteen ninety two World Trade Center attack and 959 00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: was behind some of the initial jihadist activity here in 960 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:33,319 Speaker 1: the US. All we're trying to say is the bar 961 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,319 Speaker 1: is very, very high. Much more serious plots that you 962 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: have seen here that were much better organized have not 963 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,760 Speaker 1: been actually convicted of seditious conspiracy. And the very last 964 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: time that the nine members of the Huatri militants were 965 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: charged with seditious conspiracy, they were acquitted because the prosecution 966 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: relied on circumstantial evidence. So you look at all of 967 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: this together, it's a very very difficult charged prove. They 968 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: probably have them dead to rights in terms of storming 969 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,960 Speaker 1: the capitol or obviously right, yeah, but there are a 970 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,319 Speaker 1: lot of lesser charges that are filed against these people 971 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: that I fully expect them to be convinced, which they 972 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,239 Speaker 1: should be, which they almost certainly will be convicted of 973 00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,320 Speaker 1: because they probably are guilty. But on the sedition one itself, 974 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,600 Speaker 1: you know, just because you're charged with something doesn't make 975 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,200 Speaker 1: it true, and we will watch it very closely because 976 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 1: I do think it is important. Which is that if 977 00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 1: just saying the words like and LARPing civil war, if 978 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:30,920 Speaker 1: that is sedition which is then connected to a riot, 979 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 1: well there is a lot of precedents set there from 980 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,560 Speaker 1: the judicial system about who and what can be charged. 981 00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 1: So always remember that, you know, the alien and sedition 982 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: acts are not looked at as a very bright time 983 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,680 Speaker 1: in American history for a reason. We have laws on 984 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: the books which are crimes, and we should treat it 985 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,240 Speaker 1: that way. And these have very high barriers of proof, 986 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:53,920 Speaker 1: and I think that I think that's a good thing 987 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,799 Speaker 1: for all of us. I think it's important for people 988 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:59,120 Speaker 1: to have their expectations set properly too, no matter what 989 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: you may disagree with my assessment of these individuals, and 990 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: you know the readout from the indictment, but I think 991 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: it's just important that people have the expectation that this 992 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 1: will be very difficult to prove in court, and it 993 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: is you know, probably unlikely that the government will ultimately succeed, 994 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: but we will watch it very closely. Okay. So I've 995 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: been following this closely with Novak Djokovic, who is a 996 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: top ranked tennis player in the world. I have a 997 00:52:27,040 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 1: sort of like newfound interest in tennis, so I've been 998 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,560 Speaker 1: watching a lot lately. So that's why I've been following 999 00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: this relatively closely. So here's a little bit of the 1000 00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:41,719 Speaker 1: backdrop and context. Djokovic is tied with Rafael Nadal and 1001 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: Roger Fetterer to basically be like the greatest tennis player 1002 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,760 Speaker 1: of all time, and he needs one more major event 1003 00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 1: win in order to take his place ahead of them 1004 00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,759 Speaker 1: in history. So significant stakes. And by the way, the 1005 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 1: Australia Open is an event where he has historically performed 1006 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,680 Speaker 1: extraordinarily well. He is the three time reigning and I 1007 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 1: believe he has won that the Australian Open nine times 1008 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,000 Speaker 1: in his career, so he tends to get He's the 1009 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: guy at the Australia Open. Okay, And again, if he 1010 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,799 Speaker 1: gets one more of these major championship wins, then he 1011 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,799 Speaker 1: pulls into the lead ahead of Rafa and ahead of 1012 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 1: Roger Federer in terms of being the sort of tennis 1013 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: greatest of all time. So Novak Djokovic is a crank. 1014 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:27,040 Speaker 1: He has all kinds of crazy beliefs. Yeah, gluten one, 1015 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 1: there's something. He has a lot of, like crazy, totally 1016 00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: anti science beliefs, and he is opposed to the COVID vaccine. 1017 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,839 Speaker 1: So he thought that he had an exemption to Australia's 1018 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,759 Speaker 1: very onerous rules and restrictions that banned people from entering 1019 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:51,200 Speaker 1: the country unless they are vaccinated because he has been 1020 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,959 Speaker 1: infected with coronavirus before, and he had received some word 1021 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,360 Speaker 1: both from the government and from the relevant Tennis authorities 1022 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,839 Speaker 1: that the fact that he had been infected with coronavirus 1023 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: before MENTI had some natural immunities, which is scientifically based, 1024 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: and that he was given granted a waiver to those 1025 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:14,680 Speaker 1: vaccine requirements so that he could enter the country, move 1026 00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,080 Speaker 1: about the country and compete in the Australia Open Okay, 1027 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: then he goes to actually fly to Australia, he's detained 1028 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: in the airport and then unfolds this whole back and 1029 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:31,040 Speaker 1: forth between him and the Australian judicial system and the 1030 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:36,120 Speaker 1: Australian government. One judge, actually, you know, stood with Djokovic 1031 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,680 Speaker 1: and said, actually, I think you, you know, have been 1032 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: granted this assumption should be allowed to stay that is 1033 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: then ultimately overturned. And now the long and short of it, 1034 00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 1: let's go ahead and put this up on the screen, 1035 00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: is that he has been nominally deported from Australia and 1036 00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,800 Speaker 1: cannot play in this Australia Open but he has banned 1037 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: from the country for three years, which I'm going to 1038 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,160 Speaker 1: get into some of the things that make this a 1039 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:06,120 Speaker 1: little bit more complicated, but top line level, it is 1040 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: anti science to pretend that natural immunity is not a 1041 00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,320 Speaker 1: thing that's correct. So if you're going to have especially 1042 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,239 Speaker 1: something and I don't support something so aggressively, you know, 1043 00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,359 Speaker 1: authoritarian as these types of laws, but if you're going 1044 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: to have them, at least have them based on science, 1045 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,879 Speaker 1: so that okay, if you're vaccinated, then you get in. 1046 00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:31,960 Speaker 1: And also if you have natural immunity from having had 1047 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,800 Speaker 1: COVID that gives you similar protection to vaccine, then also 1048 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: you should be let in. So that's kind of my 1049 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,440 Speaker 1: top line thing, and the idea that he's banned for 1050 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,800 Speaker 1: three years is to meet bonkers. Now they do say 1051 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,400 Speaker 1: that he could apply for an exemption. The Minister for 1052 00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,360 Speaker 1: Home Affairs Canon Karen Andrews said, the outcome of the 1053 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,719 Speaker 1: process that went before the Federal Court and the determinations 1054 00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:54,120 Speaker 1: the visa was canceled by Immigration Minister Hawk. That cancelation 1055 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: was upheld by the Federal Court, so as a result 1056 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: of that, he will be banned from entry for three 1057 00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: years into the country. There are some compelling reasons that 1058 00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:03,879 Speaker 1: might be looked at, but that's all hypothetical at this point. 1059 00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:08,280 Speaker 1: Any application for those exemptions will be reviewed on its merits. 1060 00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,239 Speaker 1: Here's the one thing I will say that makes this 1061 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: more complicated is that his application he appears to have 1062 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,720 Speaker 1: lied on because you had to swear that you hadn't 1063 00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 1: traveled anywhere else for two weeks, and there are pictures 1064 00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: of him on answer he had been other places, got 1065 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: so he lied about that. The other thing is just 1066 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this isn't really relevant to the application, but 1067 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: it also looks like while he had COVID, he was 1068 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,400 Speaker 1: still out like doing tennis events and photo shoots. Not 1069 00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,680 Speaker 1: great with feeble to give you a sense of the 1070 00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: type of sort of posture he has towards all of this. 1071 00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: But I think the most complicating factor for him is 1072 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: the fact that he did lie on his application and 1073 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,440 Speaker 1: said he hadn't traveled, when in fact he had traveled. 1074 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 1: I think you're right. The problem though, is that the 1075 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:54,640 Speaker 1: Australian ministers they cited that kind of as you know, 1076 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: internal evidence, but in general, the reason that they said 1077 00:56:57,800 --> 00:57:00,480 Speaker 1: that he was being booted from the country because he 1078 00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 1: would encourage anti vac sentiment within Australia. That's the explicit 1079 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,160 Speaker 1: reason that they gave. Look. I support Australia's right to 1080 00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: do whatever it wants with its borders, but I think 1081 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 1: this is totally nuts. I mean, they're booting out Niovak Djokovic, 1082 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: as you say, both on an anti scientific basis, but 1083 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: also on the idea that he would encourage anti vac 1084 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:24,160 Speaker 1: sentiment within the country. I mean, A, there's no evidence 1085 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,880 Speaker 1: of that whatsoever. But b what does it also say 1086 00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: about you for your citizens to look at this and say, 1087 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: wait a second, are we you know? This is possibly 1088 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:38,400 Speaker 1: leading to at least consciousness within Australia A lot of people. 1089 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,040 Speaker 1: I actually saw there was this guy on the Joe 1090 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 1: Rogan podcast kind of defending the Australian policy. He himself 1091 00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:46,800 Speaker 1: was in Australian and it was a fascinating kind of 1092 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: view for me into the mind of people who are 1093 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 1: Western but also not necessarily committed to things like the 1094 00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: Bill of Rights. I always see this whenever I see 1095 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 1: like the Britain where they don't really have a free press, 1096 00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:01,880 Speaker 1: and same you know Australia they have huge government censorship 1097 00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,880 Speaker 1: and government ability. There was a lot more just compliance 1098 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:07,640 Speaker 1: or whenever it comes to some of the most draconian 1099 00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:12,360 Speaker 1: policies of quarantine camps, COVID camps and you know, hardcore mandates, 1100 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 1: the hardest core lockdowns that you'll ever see. It was 1101 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: actually kind of supported by the majority, it looks like 1102 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: of the Australian people, although it's difficult in order to 1103 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: get accurate polling. I do think though that in the 1104 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:29,040 Speaker 1: long run, as you say, blocking Novak Jokovic from coming 1105 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,240 Speaker 1: has diminished the event in the sport of tennis by 1106 00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: making it not really a fair game. Anybody who wins 1107 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: this one is going to know in the back of 1108 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,520 Speaker 1: their mind that Jokovic, which was not allowed to come in. 1109 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: But this is ruining the sport as we know it. 1110 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: Apparently he may not be allowed in Paris to compete 1111 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,200 Speaker 1: in the French Open. I was in France. They do 1112 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:52,480 Speaker 1: have a hardcore vaccine passport vaccine mandate. Although they do 1113 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: allow unvaccinated travelers, you're just not allowed to do anything. 1114 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: So it's possible that that's what he'll have to do. 1115 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,480 Speaker 1: We'll have to get tests every forty eight hours. He's 1116 00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,720 Speaker 1: rich enough, I'm sure he can do that. But it's 1117 00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 1: diminishing the sport. It's sending the wrong message I think 1118 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,040 Speaker 1: around what this is all supposed to be, and in 1119 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: terms of Australia itself, I think this diminishes their standing 1120 00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,200 Speaker 1: on the world stage dramatically. A lot of people are 1121 00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,120 Speaker 1: looking at this and saying this is totally nuts, casual 1122 00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,520 Speaker 1: sports fans. I mean, listen, on the other hand, he 1123 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 1: could just get the friking vaccine and then he wouldn't 1124 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,320 Speaker 1: have all these problems. So let's just put that out 1125 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,760 Speaker 1: there as well. However, I mean, I don't disagree with you. 1126 00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 1: I think the big problem with this is it ended 1127 00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:33,120 Speaker 1: up feeling super political because the politicians ultimately were the 1128 00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:36,080 Speaker 1: ones who got involved and made the decision and you know, 1129 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,040 Speaker 1: not only boot him from the country but also ban 1130 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: him for three years. And it does, I mean, you know, 1131 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,320 Speaker 1: it does have serious, significant consequences for the sport of tennis. 1132 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: Raphael Nadal is back from injury. I saw. I don't 1133 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,280 Speaker 1: know if he's played. I know in the first round 1134 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: he was extraordinarily dominant. It would be extremely exciting to 1135 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,200 Speaker 1: watch him play Djokovic, yes, in the final, and there's 1136 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,680 Speaker 1: a chance, and again he's just newly back from injury, 1137 01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,320 Speaker 1: so I don't know how well he'll do, but there's 1138 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:05,520 Speaker 1: a chance that he then goes and wins this event 1139 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,320 Speaker 1: and puts him in the lead as the greatest of 1140 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: all time, which personally I am an adul fan, so 1141 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind. But it does have a little asterisk 1142 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,680 Speaker 1: next time because, yeah, because you didn't go up against 1143 01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Djokovic at this event, and so now you pull ahead 1144 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,080 Speaker 1: because he's been manned from the country. I mean, listen, 1145 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,160 Speaker 1: it's just sports, so it's not the end of the world. 1146 01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:28,680 Speaker 1: But I do think that ultimately, the bottom line here 1147 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,640 Speaker 1: is that even as Djokovic is a total craig, apparently 1148 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:34,400 Speaker 1: people in the tennis world don't like him. He's kind 1149 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 1: of a jerk. Put aside his personal attributes, the Australian 1150 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 1: government's position here felt political and seems to be blatantly 1151 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: anti science and that's the issue I have with it, 1152 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:49,480 Speaker 1: and ultimately extremely draconian three years that's crazy, that's totally crazy. Like, look, yeah, 1153 01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,280 Speaker 1: we don't have a right to go to Australia, but 1154 01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, their economy relies on a lot 1155 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,320 Speaker 1: of tourism, A lot of people go over there. It's 1156 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:59,760 Speaker 1: actually my last continent populated. So I do desperately want 1157 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,480 Speaker 1: to go. But even now I'm like, I don't know, 1158 01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,400 Speaker 1: you know, this whole thing seems completely nuts. Gold Coast 1159 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: seems cool, but this is I don't want to have 1160 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,600 Speaker 1: to sit in a hotel room for like two or 1161 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,680 Speaker 1: three weeks, and that seems to be what they require. 1162 01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: I think it does diminish and tarnish their image on 1163 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:17,200 Speaker 1: the world stage. It's not good for the sport. And 1164 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,960 Speaker 1: these are just not the international precedence that we should 1165 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:23,960 Speaker 1: be setting, especially in a time of vaccination of you know, 1166 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: dramatically much lower hospitalization and death rates amongst people who 1167 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 1: have immunity and have some sort of protection. This is 1168 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,240 Speaker 1: something that I think is important for people to accept 1169 01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,000 Speaker 1: and to move on from. Sport is a very very 1170 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: powerful symbol of what life was like before and can 1171 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,479 Speaker 1: be going forward, and I think we should go ahead 1172 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,560 Speaker 1: and try to preserve it. Yes, indeed, there we have 1173 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 1: one other final piece for this which you can throw 1174 01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,800 Speaker 1: up on the screen, which is Djokovic's reaction. Yes, he 1175 01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: says he's extremely dis disappointed with the court ruling to 1176 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 1: dismiss my application for judicial review of the minister's decision 1177 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,360 Speaker 1: to cancel my visa, which means I cannot stand Usustralia 1178 01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: and participate in the Australian Open. I respect the Court's ruling. 1179 01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,720 Speaker 1: I will cooperate with the relevant authorities in relation to 1180 01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 1: my departure from the country. I'm uncomfortable that the focus 1181 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,320 Speaker 1: of the past weeks has been on me, and I 1182 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 1: hope that we can all now focus on the game 1183 01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: and tournament I love. I'd like to wish the player's, tournament, 1184 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,800 Speaker 1: official staff, volunteers and fans all the best for the tournament. 1185 01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:23,640 Speaker 1: And this ends that whole chapter. Crystal, what are you 1186 01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 1: taking a look at? Well, guys, it is a new 1187 01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 1: year and supposedly a new Kamala Harris. She's hired a 1188 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,560 Speaker 1: newcomm's director who full disclosure, Sagga and I actually worked 1189 01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: with back at the Hill, and she is testing out 1190 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,880 Speaker 1: a new strategy of actually doing interviews and being in 1191 01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 1: the public eye crazy idea their vice president. According to McClatchy, 1192 01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: Kamala wants to sit for longer form interviews where she 1193 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,920 Speaker 1: can delve into policy as she tries to reshape the 1194 01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:50,000 Speaker 1: narrative on her vice presidency. As one former AID put it, quote, 1195 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 1: I think it's taken a little bit more time than 1196 01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:53,960 Speaker 1: maybe some people would hoped, But I think they've got 1197 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,400 Speaker 1: a good opportunity to get her feet under her soon 1198 01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,960 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two and have twenty twenty two be 1199 01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:02,600 Speaker 1: a much better year than twenty twenty one. There is 1200 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,800 Speaker 1: just one tenC tinsy tiny problem. This is Kamala Harris, 1201 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: and she is extremely bad at this. In one of 1202 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 1: her first efforts at this new year, New Kamala strategy, 1203 01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:17,160 Speaker 1: she was asked pretty basic question by NBC's Craig Melvin, 1204 01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:20,920 Speaker 1: is it time the administration changes its COVID strategy? Har 1205 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,800 Speaker 1: response and I quote, it is time for us to 1206 01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,600 Speaker 1: do what we have been doing, and that time is 1207 01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,600 Speaker 1: every day, every day. It is time for us to 1208 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: agree that there are things and tools that are available 1209 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:37,720 Speaker 1: to us to slow this thing down. Okay, it sounds 1210 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,640 Speaker 1: like something I might think was really profound if I 1211 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,720 Speaker 1: was extremely high. What is time? Anyway? Every day? It 1212 01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,640 Speaker 1: is time, and that time is every day. But in 1213 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,080 Speaker 1: my personal opinion, this was not even the worst part 1214 01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,400 Speaker 1: of the interview, since that answer was just perplexing and 1215 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:54,120 Speaker 1: sad rather than absolutely enraging. For my money, the worst 1216 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,000 Speaker 1: part of the interview came when the Vice President of 1217 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:59,240 Speaker 1: the United States told us to do Google to find 1218 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: covid REP tests. Well, we're two years into this. Well, 1219 01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:08,919 Speaker 1: why didn't the administration just go out and secure more 1220 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:11,919 Speaker 1: at home tests after the delta search in the fall. 1221 01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:14,440 Speaker 1: Why are we at a point now where folks still 1222 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:20,000 Speaker 1: can't get tests but we just ordered I don't have 1223 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:21,800 Speaker 1: the number in front of me, but millions of tests. 1224 01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:25,560 Speaker 1: We have twenty thousand sites where people can go, and 1225 01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,920 Speaker 1: I urge people to you can Google it or go 1226 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 1: on to any search engine and find out where free 1227 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 1: testing and the free testing site is available. But not 1228 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 1: a Vice president the fact that we're still telling people 1229 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:38,480 Speaker 1: to Google where you can get a test. But oh, 1230 01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,200 Speaker 1: but come on now, I mean, really, if you want 1231 01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,800 Speaker 1: to figure out how to get across town to some 1232 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,960 Speaker 1: restaurant you heard is great, you usually do Google to 1233 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: figure out where it is. So that's simply about giving 1234 01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:55,040 Speaker 1: people right a mechanism by which they can locate something 1235 01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:59,760 Speaker 1: that they need, something that can help them. You're the people, think, 1236 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 1: so personal responsibility for the fact that there is a 1237 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,160 Speaker 1: massive rapid test shortage. Are you sure you're googling hard enough? 1238 01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,680 Speaker 1: When asked about timing for distribution of free rapid tests, 1239 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,680 Speaker 1: she admitted she didn't actually know the timeline. Boy, these 1240 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:16,160 Speaker 1: long form policy discussions are really off to an incredible start. 1241 01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,840 Speaker 1: What I've come to realize about Kamala Harris is that 1242 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: she is so much more than just one bad politician 1243 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,280 Speaker 1: who happened to end up in a position of power 1244 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,680 Speaker 1: and prominence. In fact, she is perfectly precisely emblematic of 1245 01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,320 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party and all of its corruption and competence, shallowness, 1246 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,280 Speaker 1: and lack of interest in governing. She's not about anything, 1247 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,040 Speaker 1: and somehow believes that the answer to everyone's problem is 1248 01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: in healthcare, labor rights. But more Kamala. In that way, 1249 01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:42,880 Speaker 1: she reminds me actually a lot of Hillary Clinton. Hillary 1250 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,280 Speaker 1: might have actually started out with some real values. I 1251 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:47,840 Speaker 1: do believe that is possible, but over the years, her 1252 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,880 Speaker 1: quest for power led her to conclude that any means 1253 01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: was justified so long as it put her closer to power, 1254 01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:58,080 Speaker 1: because the true greatest good was Hillary Clinton running the show. 1255 01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: Kamala's modern vers version of that, having skipped the part 1256 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,320 Speaker 1: about having a single principle to start with and jumping 1257 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:07,120 Speaker 1: straight to the conclusion that the answer to all of 1258 01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,120 Speaker 1: our prayers lies in the personal fulfillment and achievement of 1259 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,120 Speaker 1: one Kamala Harris. I've actually started reading Edward Isaac Dover's 1260 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: gossipy campaign book Battle for the Soul, and he captures 1261 01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: this dynamic pretty well. He writes that, as a black 1262 01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:23,240 Speaker 1: woman obtaining trailblazing positions quote, she is always cognizant of 1263 01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,400 Speaker 1: what her presence and her wins represent. That she always 1264 01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 1: sees herself as the answer and reaps the benefits from that. Well. 1265 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,120 Speaker 1: She likes that too. Like the Democratic Party, Kamala really 1266 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:36,400 Speaker 1: only has two skills. The first is sucking up to 1267 01:06:36,480 --> 01:06:40,200 Speaker 1: rich donors and persuading cultural elites that their own virtuousness 1268 01:06:40,280 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 1: lies in supporting her. This requires nothing of them, and 1269 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 1: also nothing of her. She is not promising them policy 1270 01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,080 Speaker 1: or change, just that her existence and identity will give 1271 01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,240 Speaker 1: them emotional sucker It's the political equivalent of having a 1272 01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,880 Speaker 1: black friend, allowing these elites to convince themselves and broadcast 1273 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:57,880 Speaker 1: to the world that they are the sort of good 1274 01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:01,240 Speaker 1: people who care about progress. Meanwhile, their low taxes will 1275 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: stay just as they are their kids grip on the 1276 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:07,000 Speaker 1: good life perfectly secured. The second skill Kamala shares with 1277 01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:10,480 Speaker 1: a larger Democratic Party is her creative weaponization of a 1278 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,160 Speaker 1: litany of excuses to explain why she is failing. No 1279 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:18,840 Speaker 1: misstep or disappointment is ever Kamala's fault. During the presidential primary, 1280 01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,800 Speaker 1: she and her toxic band of trolls actually believe that 1281 01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,880 Speaker 1: the reason she failed so hard was because the media 1282 01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:29,320 Speaker 1: was unfair to her. Can you imagine actually thinking that 1283 01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,160 Speaker 1: the media tried so hard to make Kamala Harris happen, 1284 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,400 Speaker 1: granting her top tier status before she had done or 1285 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:40,040 Speaker 1: proved a single thing, going down the checklist of identity 1286 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,240 Speaker 1: signifiers to argue that they had done the math and 1287 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,320 Speaker 1: the answer must be Kamala Harris. And of course, the 1288 01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 1: most consistent excuse that Kamala falls back on is that 1289 01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:50,800 Speaker 1: any critique is it really about her failures. It's about 1290 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,600 Speaker 1: the journalists and the society at large's racism and sexism. 1291 01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:57,360 Speaker 1: Not sure how that explains her inability to answer very 1292 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,240 Speaker 1: basic questions, constant turnover in every reoffice she's ever run, 1293 01:08:01,320 --> 01:08:04,840 Speaker 1: thanks to a totally dysfunctional workplace environment and total rejection 1294 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,600 Speaker 1: not just by the broader public but by the Democratic 1295 01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:10,160 Speaker 1: base to include plenty of women and voters of color. 1296 01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,320 Speaker 1: No failure is ever Kamala's fault, just as for the Democrats, 1297 01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 1: it's always the fault jerrymandering or the filibuster, or those 1298 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,439 Speaker 1: battle Republicans, or those bad voters who are just too 1299 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:24,280 Speaker 1: deplorable to respond to the Democrats' enlightened ways. But the 1300 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:28,280 Speaker 1: true defining characteristic of both Kamala and the larger Democratic 1301 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:31,800 Speaker 1: Party is their total lack of any core. The only 1302 01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:35,760 Speaker 1: goal is their own advancement through machiavellian machine politics, not 1303 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,559 Speaker 1: by like I don't know, appealing to voters in Battle 1304 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,360 Speaker 1: for the Soul the book I referenced, Kamala launched her 1305 01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: presidential campaign after running a bunch of focus groups on 1306 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,479 Speaker 1: how she personally tested as compared to fellow woman Kirsten 1307 01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:50,599 Speaker 1: Gilibrand and as opposed to fellow black person Corey Booker. 1308 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,160 Speaker 1: She and her operatives held a retreat to run through 1309 01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,000 Speaker 1: these focus groups and debate the personal risks to Kamala 1310 01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,960 Speaker 1: Harris and the potential personal gains to Kamala Harris. Or once, 1311 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:04,040 Speaker 1: according to those in the room, did they actually think 1312 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:08,000 Speaker 1: about why one might want to be president, what one 1313 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,679 Speaker 1: might do to improve the lives of the American people 1314 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:14,599 Speaker 1: through the incredible powers of that office. As one person 1315 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 1: in attendant said, quote, there was not any discussion of policy, 1316 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:21,839 Speaker 1: the why she would run. We launched into a void 1317 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:27,080 Speaker 1: without a worldview. Now this was obvious to everyone watching 1318 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 1: her campaign unfold or The message and the theme changed 1319 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,480 Speaker 1: along with the seasons. The one thing she held relatively 1320 01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:36,240 Speaker 1: consistently to was her insistence that it was quote time 1321 01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,599 Speaker 1: to tell hard truths, a totally meaningless phrase that, just 1322 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,400 Speaker 1: like the content free person uttering, it hit the perfect 1323 01:09:42,400 --> 01:09:45,920 Speaker 1: mark among a certain set. Kamala's campaign was so empty 1324 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:49,320 Speaker 1: and unconcerned with policy that she jumped on the bandwagon 1325 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:51,720 Speaker 1: to co sponsor Bernie's Medicare for All bill in the 1326 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:55,720 Speaker 1: Senate out of pure political calculation, without even having the 1327 01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:00,160 Speaker 1: foggiest idea what the policy actually was. Here's how that 1328 01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,799 Speaker 1: all unfolded, according to Dovier, quote, This was her thinking, 1329 01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 1: sign on to his bill first, to get the credit 1330 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,439 Speaker 1: for taking a bold stand, and make the announcement as 1331 01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,599 Speaker 1: a surprise at the end of August in a church 1332 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,639 Speaker 1: back home in Oakland. Aids realized afterward that she had 1333 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,519 Speaker 1: so thin a grasp of the policy that she'd said 1334 01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:22,439 Speaker 1: she was backing. She said she was backing Medicaid for 1335 01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 1: all in that church. Now, I was always astonished that 1336 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:28,960 Speaker 1: Biden and the Democratic elites would select Kamala Harris as 1337 01:10:29,000 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: their handpicked successor as their next leader. She literally was 1338 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 1: rejected so hard by voters that she had to drop 1339 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,240 Speaker 1: out of the primary before a single vote was cast. 1340 01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:42,920 Speaker 1: She was so obviously unseerious, unlikable, and just really bad 1341 01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:45,960 Speaker 1: at every single skill necessary to be even halfway decent 1342 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:48,760 Speaker 1: at politics. But the more I watch her, the more 1343 01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,800 Speaker 1: I think about it, the more I realize Kamala and 1344 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,519 Speaker 1: the hapless Democratic establishment are a match made in heaven. 1345 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,680 Speaker 1: Prop up a diverse face that stands for nothing and 1346 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,920 Speaker 1: challenges no one and call it change. Yeah, that sounds 1347 01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,360 Speaker 1: about right. At least Barack Obama could give a really 1348 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:10,200 Speaker 1: great speech. This interview was really something. The book contains 1349 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,640 Speaker 1: a lot of death and if you want to hear 1350 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 1: my reaction to Crystal's monologue, become a premium subscriber today 1351 01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:21,560 Speaker 1: at Breakingpoints dot Com. All right, Tago, what are you 1352 01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:24,200 Speaker 1: looking at? Well? The single worst part of this pandemic 1353 01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:27,360 Speaker 1: has been the treatment of young children, the closing of schools, 1354 01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,400 Speaker 1: the forcing of mass the intentional effort by the CDC 1355 01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,000 Speaker 1: and the media to scare the living daylights out of 1356 01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,519 Speaker 1: parents for a disease which is not fundamentally a risk 1357 01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,240 Speaker 1: to the vast majority of children here in the US 1358 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,000 Speaker 1: or on earth. And while we have as much information 1359 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:45,559 Speaker 1: as we ever could to reverse these draconian policies, some 1360 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,880 Speaker 1: people they just won't give up. And unfortunately, while those 1361 01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,599 Speaker 1: people are a minority of this country, they also happen 1362 01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:54,200 Speaker 1: to be the most powerful people in the world. They 1363 01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: have the highest positions of the CDC, the White House, 1364 01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,799 Speaker 1: the US government. In their positions of power, they seek 1365 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:05,400 Speaker 1: to institutionalize their insanity upon all of us, and even worse, 1366 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:09,479 Speaker 1: upon kids. Nowhere is this more stark than masks in schools, 1367 01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 1: where Biden administration has announced an unprecedented action. Biden's Treasury 1368 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:17,559 Speaker 1: Department is instructing the state of Arizona that it would 1369 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,280 Speaker 1: take back some of the four point two billion dollars 1370 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 1: in pandemic aid and withhold future payments if the state 1371 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:28,080 Speaker 1: does not halt or redesign programs which undercut mask requirements 1372 01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:32,000 Speaker 1: in schools. These are dollars explicitly given to the states 1373 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:35,840 Speaker 1: by Congress for education purposes, and Arizona is using them 1374 01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 1: as they see fit to encourage in person instruction and 1375 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,120 Speaker 1: even aid to families who don't want their kids to 1376 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: be who want their kids to be able to attend 1377 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,680 Speaker 1: schools without onerous restrictions. That's too far for the Biden administration, 1378 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,799 Speaker 1: which through this action is making a full throated government 1379 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,960 Speaker 1: defense of mass in schools. Now, those who watch me 1380 01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,559 Speaker 1: regularly know the great irony of the Biden administration action here, 1381 01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:01,920 Speaker 1: as I have dedicated in higher monologue to the CDC 1382 01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:06,559 Speaker 1: study justifying mass and schools is complete. BS David's Wig 1383 01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:09,720 Speaker 1: of The Atlantic pointed out that the study allowed online 1384 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,000 Speaker 1: and virtual schools in its control group, it used ridiculous 1385 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: criteria to define a community COVID case, and the time 1386 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,880 Speaker 1: horizon of which they said they were looking at was 1387 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 1: not valid data whatsoever. But here's the most ironic part 1388 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:27,080 Speaker 1: that study by the CDC justifying mass and schools was 1389 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:29,960 Speaker 1: based on the BS data set out of the state 1390 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:33,800 Speaker 1: of Arizona itself. You can't make this up. The CDC's 1391 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,880 Speaker 1: junk science was based on BS Arizona data, and then 1392 01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:39,760 Speaker 1: when the State of Arizona rightfully defies that guidance, the 1393 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,840 Speaker 1: government threatens to clawback aid from them. Now we have 1394 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,240 Speaker 1: gotten to a point where the public health bureaucrats and 1395 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 1: their apparatics and government have embraced wholesale child abuse. To 1396 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,719 Speaker 1: simply not admit that they were flat wrong on closing 1397 01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:55,040 Speaker 1: schools and just is wrong when it comes to justifying 1398 01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:58,479 Speaker 1: mass and schools, just to cover my basis fully. Britain, 1399 01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:02,479 Speaker 1: where they had an actual experiment with many more students 1400 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: and much better data, found that there was zero statistical 1401 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 1: impact from wearing masks in schools and thus they do 1402 01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,800 Speaker 1: not have it as national policy. Layer that obvious piece 1403 01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:15,639 Speaker 1: of news that the CDC finally admitted to that they 1404 01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,599 Speaker 1: concede that cloth masks do not protect against the virus 1405 01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,120 Speaker 1: as effectively as other masks, so masks in schools don't 1406 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,800 Speaker 1: really work. Actually, coss maxims cloth masks themselves barely work. 1407 01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,639 Speaker 1: So why exactly are we forcing kids to wear them. 1408 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,719 Speaker 1: Nobody has an answer to that question, and any sane 1409 01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,960 Speaker 1: person or parent knows that this is ridiculous. That is 1410 01:14:35,960 --> 01:14:38,519 Speaker 1: why masks and schools are set to be the best 1411 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:43,120 Speaker 1: political fight of my generation for Republicans. Newly inaugurated Governor 1412 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,720 Speaker 1: Glenn Youngkin he announced on his very first day of 1413 01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:48,960 Speaker 1: office in Virginia the statewide mandate to wear masks in 1414 01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 1: schools was repealed and from here on out it would 1415 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,439 Speaker 1: be up to the parents if they want to their 1416 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 1: kids to wear masks or not. That's a great policy. 1417 01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,519 Speaker 1: If you want to inflict that on your kid, just agree. 1418 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,760 Speaker 1: But it's a free country for the rest of us, 1419 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,760 Speaker 1: we are moving on. It is one of the most 1420 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: obvious political winners of the last two decades, but which, 1421 01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:12,920 Speaker 1: of course, the White House Press Secretary Jensaki somehow found 1422 01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: the need to come out on the other side of that. 1423 01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,280 Speaker 1: She's going after Glenn Youngkin for coming out against masson schools. 1424 01:15:19,479 --> 01:15:23,160 Speaker 1: Saki thanked the Arlington Public School District for quote standing 1425 01:15:23,240 --> 01:15:26,320 Speaker 1: up for our kids, teachers and administrators. This once again 1426 01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:30,160 Speaker 1: has no scientific basis. Youngin's order is simple. If Jensaki 1427 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,080 Speaker 1: wants to strap an n ninety five to her kid's face. Fine, 1428 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,720 Speaker 1: any person who is concerned, including staff, you can do 1429 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,360 Speaker 1: the exact same thing. The fact that they insist on 1430 01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,519 Speaker 1: strapping a mask to your kid's face shows that they 1431 01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,320 Speaker 1: don't respect you, and they don't respect science, and they 1432 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:47,559 Speaker 1: will literally never give these things up for everybody. It 1433 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:50,040 Speaker 1: is not enough for them to just have the option. 1434 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,839 Speaker 1: They will only be happy when everyone on every plane 1435 01:15:53,920 --> 01:15:56,879 Speaker 1: and school and college in the country is as miserable 1436 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,559 Speaker 1: and terrified as there are. And to that end, I 1437 01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:02,519 Speaker 1: honestly say, keep it up. It will be the biggest 1438 01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,280 Speaker 1: electoral backlash in modern memory. Some electoral analysts, as we 1439 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 1: covered today in the show, say it could be the 1440 01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,679 Speaker 1: biggest blow out in a century. I think that's right, 1441 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 1: and the reason is obvious and simple. These people care 1442 01:16:13,960 --> 01:16:17,439 Speaker 1: more about voting rights and the fake build back Better Act, 1443 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,679 Speaker 1: whatever that is, then making sure that your daily life 1444 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,599 Speaker 1: is not miserable and expensive. In fact, the misery is 1445 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:27,760 Speaker 1: probably the point. But that's why, lucky for us, we 1446 01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,240 Speaker 1: still live in a democracy and the very last thing 1447 01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:32,720 Speaker 1: that we have at our disposal is the vote. So 1448 01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,759 Speaker 1: make sure you use it. Because COVID policy departed science 1449 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,320 Speaker 1: long ago to escape misery requires turning on these people 1450 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 1: at every turn, regardless of party. Only one of the 1451 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,800 Speaker 1: great schlackings in modern American political history will shut them up. 1452 01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:48,320 Speaker 1: And even then it may not be enough, but at 1453 01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,760 Speaker 1: least it will be something. And chryslal I was telling 1454 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 1: you this before the show. Alexandria Public School respond and 1455 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,719 Speaker 1: if you want to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue, 1456 01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:03,080 Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. Joining 1457 01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,200 Speaker 1: us now, we have a wonderful guest, the one and 1458 01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:08,040 Speaker 1: only Senator Nina Turner. She is host of the Hello 1459 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,479 Speaker 1: Somebody podcast on the Black Effect Network. She's also host 1460 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,200 Speaker 1: of The Conversation over on TYT and of course, former 1461 01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,120 Speaker 1: national co chair of the Bernie Sanders campaign. Great to 1462 01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,720 Speaker 1: see you, my friends, Good to see Anina. Great to 1463 01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:22,920 Speaker 1: be with you both, and happy New Year. Happy New 1464 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:25,400 Speaker 1: Year to you. It's great to see you. Let me 1465 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:28,160 Speaker 1: start with like sort of a big picture question and 1466 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,160 Speaker 1: you can take this in any direction that you want. 1467 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,760 Speaker 1: But what do you think is the biggest failing or 1468 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,639 Speaker 1: are the biggest failings of the Biden administration to date? 1469 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:42,360 Speaker 1: Not giving people something they can feel. I mean, you know, 1470 01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,080 Speaker 1: the build back Better plan, even though as a progressive 1471 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 1: I want to see it go a lot further, but 1472 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:52,559 Speaker 1: it's certainly a strong foundation that should be a push 1473 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,840 Speaker 1: very hard. Also not allowing to senators and the people 1474 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,400 Speaker 1: who are hiding behind them, because let's face it, it's 1475 01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 1: not just and Cinema that are standing in the way 1476 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:04,840 Speaker 1: of the filibuster. They just have the courage to come 1477 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 1: out and say we won't support changing the rules. So 1478 01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:12,640 Speaker 1: that the filibuster and the way that it has been 1479 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:15,640 Speaker 1: used historically, as we know, has been something that's been 1480 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 1: a used as a tool to stop civil rights. And 1481 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,320 Speaker 1: so they have no problem in the twenty first century 1482 01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:23,720 Speaker 1: saying that the rules, the rule, the Senate philibuster rule 1483 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 1: means more to them than upholding democracy. And they're not alone. 1484 01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,640 Speaker 1: And so I want to see the President take the 1485 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:36,400 Speaker 1: righteous indignation of this nation over that, over voting rights 1486 01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,599 Speaker 1: and other things that the Senate needs to get done 1487 01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,479 Speaker 1: to give people something they can feel on the road, 1488 01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:45,439 Speaker 1: and compel the American people to be on this side 1489 01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,559 Speaker 1: and say, hey, I'm standing up, but these two and 1490 01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:50,360 Speaker 1: any others who hiding in the shadows are standing in 1491 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:53,439 Speaker 1: the way of my agenda. And this agenda can change 1492 01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:58,519 Speaker 1: your lives materially. Nina, you were recently on cinanic caused 1493 01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of a stir. Let's take a listen 1494 01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,519 Speaker 1: to that and we'll talk about it. On the other side, 1495 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 1: they better not utter the not one quote from the 1496 01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,200 Speaker 1: Reverend doctor Martin Luther King Jr. Not one or any 1497 01:19:08,240 --> 01:19:10,439 Speaker 1: of his colleagues and contemporaries, as we come up on 1498 01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,920 Speaker 1: his birthday on Saturday and the national celebration on Monday. 1499 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:17,760 Speaker 1: This is these people are cowards. They are soulless cowards 1500 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,400 Speaker 1: to hold up a dagon rule. Philibuster is a rule. 1501 01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,760 Speaker 1: It's not written in the Constitution. It's not a right. 1502 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,240 Speaker 1: It is a rule, and they're standing in the way 1503 01:19:26,280 --> 01:19:29,000 Speaker 1: of it. So this is nonsense. They worried about what 1504 01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,439 Speaker 1: the Republican's gonna do. Let's take care of twenty twenty two. 1505 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:33,920 Speaker 1: Let's do what Democrats can do right now they have 1506 01:19:34,040 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: the power. And my message to President Biden now he 1507 01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,080 Speaker 1: don't waste it a whole bunch of time with these 1508 01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,840 Speaker 1: folks being diplomatic, inviting them out to the White House 1509 01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:44,360 Speaker 1: and to time out for he needs to hold a 1510 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 1: press come let him know either you're gonna be by 1511 01:19:46,479 --> 01:19:48,639 Speaker 1: my side saying you're gonna be with me and getting 1512 01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 1: rid of the philibuster, or I'm gassing up the jet 1513 01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:55,040 Speaker 1: on your behind and I will be in Arizona and 1514 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:57,960 Speaker 1: West Virginia directly and let the American people know who's 1515 01:19:57,960 --> 01:20:00,600 Speaker 1: standing in the way of my entire agenda, not just 1516 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,639 Speaker 1: voting rights. So President President Biden gas up the jet 1517 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,439 Speaker 1: and cancel student debt. So it's interesting, Nina, I agree 1518 01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,559 Speaker 1: with your sentiment. But at this point, isn't Biden so 1519 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: unpopular that Mansion and Cinema have nothing but to gain 1520 01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,200 Speaker 1: except for being to see against him? Like, at this 1521 01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:20,040 Speaker 1: point would that strategy even work for a president with 1522 01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:24,960 Speaker 1: approval rating in the low thirties, Let snag a popularity 1523 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: rises and falls. So it went down, it can also 1524 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:32,760 Speaker 1: go back up by action, you know, by being very passionate, 1525 01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:37,639 Speaker 1: direct and deliberate and really pushing the agenda that he 1526 01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:41,120 Speaker 1: ran on. I mean, let's just start right there. And 1527 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:44,080 Speaker 1: we know the overwhelming majority of the American people, no 1528 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:51,280 Speaker 1: matter how they lean politically, agree with canceling student debt, 1529 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:55,799 Speaker 1: driving down the costs of prescription drugs, you haven't paid 1530 01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 1: family leave, et cetera. Till we could go on and on. 1531 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:02,400 Speaker 1: So it really is just holding strong to the agenda 1532 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:06,160 Speaker 1: that he ran on, and that and his low approval 1533 01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,600 Speaker 1: approval rating applieve will go back up. It will go 1534 01:21:09,760 --> 01:21:14,839 Speaker 1: up rather Senator Turner, there's been some conversation now about Okay, 1535 01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:17,360 Speaker 1: so Biden clearly has been a disappointment. In fact, we 1536 01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:21,040 Speaker 1: covered a poll today majority of people describe him describe 1537 01:21:21,080 --> 01:21:24,080 Speaker 1: themselves as either being frustrated with his presidency or disappointed 1538 01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,120 Speaker 1: in his presidency. Has approval ratings have fallen off a cliff? 1539 01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:30,439 Speaker 1: He hasn't been able to deliver on really much of 1540 01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:34,400 Speaker 1: any of his core campaign promises. People certainly don't feel 1541 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,360 Speaker 1: like the country is quote unquote back to normal. So 1542 01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:39,559 Speaker 1: now there's a conversation about all right, so what does 1543 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:43,720 Speaker 1: the progressive left do about that? Do they have a 1544 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 1: primary opponent for Joe Biden? Is there another track or 1545 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,120 Speaker 1: tack that they could ultimately take. Some people are interested in, Hey, 1546 01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,559 Speaker 1: is there a third party effort that we get behind 1547 01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:55,680 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four? What is your view on those conversations? 1548 01:21:56,320 --> 01:22:00,400 Speaker 1: And Crystal before we get to progressives in twenty twenty four, word, 1549 01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:02,040 Speaker 1: has it on the street or at least in the 1550 01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 1: Twitter verse, that cinema is the one that's going to 1551 01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:10,320 Speaker 1: primary President Biden. So they need to be very much 1552 01:22:10,360 --> 01:22:15,200 Speaker 1: worried about the moderate and corporative Democrats. This is you know, 1553 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,800 Speaker 1: in talking with Maryanne Williamson, and I know she's been 1554 01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:22,000 Speaker 1: on the show many times, and my conversations with her 1555 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 1: has been about the why this is a suffocating moment 1556 01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,960 Speaker 1: in America's history and also the world's history, starting with 1557 01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:32,280 Speaker 1: the pandemic. So I urged the progressive movement to start 1558 01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,320 Speaker 1: with the why why do we fight so hard? Why 1559 01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,600 Speaker 1: are we the champions? And and the and progressives have 1560 01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:42,759 Speaker 1: been the ones continue to be the ones to hold 1561 01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:47,120 Speaker 1: up the president's agenda even stronger than he is holding 1562 01:22:47,160 --> 01:22:50,120 Speaker 1: up his agenda. The Squad members are right when they said, 1563 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:55,120 Speaker 1: do not decouple, do not separate the infrastructure bill from 1564 01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:58,080 Speaker 1: Bill back Better. Guess what they turned out to be right? 1565 01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:01,040 Speaker 1: And what is so important about Bill Better? Even though 1566 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,840 Speaker 1: it is not as robust as I and many other 1567 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:05,880 Speaker 1: people would like to see it, and it needs to 1568 01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:09,880 Speaker 1: be in this crisis moment. But that portion of the bill, 1569 01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,320 Speaker 1: not the infrastructure building's only going to primarily enrich the 1570 01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,120 Speaker 1: people who always getting rich, and that's the corporations. We 1571 01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:21,440 Speaker 1: build back better is about the social fabric of everyday 1572 01:23:21,479 --> 01:23:25,120 Speaker 1: people in this nation. The child tax credit, et cetera, 1573 01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,920 Speaker 1: et cetera. Those are the things that need to change. 1574 01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:31,120 Speaker 1: So Crystal, I believe that the progressors need to continue 1575 01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,360 Speaker 1: to fight like hell as they are in the Congress, 1576 01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,400 Speaker 1: and the outside activist groups need to continue to push 1577 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,960 Speaker 1: our agenda, whether people agree with it or not. When 1578 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:46,479 Speaker 1: you distill it down to its basics, it really is 1579 01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:50,720 Speaker 1: about lifting humanity, lifting the poor to working poor and 1580 01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:53,559 Speaker 1: the barely middle class in these United States of America. 1581 01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,800 Speaker 1: And if you are against that, you are the extremists. 1582 01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,479 Speaker 1: If you are against canceling student debt to the burden 1583 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,280 Speaker 1: off of forty five million people, you're the extremists. If 1584 01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:07,639 Speaker 1: you are against legalizing marijuana and not to and making 1585 01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:10,800 Speaker 1: sure that people's records are expunged, and also that from 1586 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: the economic standpoint that the black community that has suffered 1587 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,200 Speaker 1: the burden of the War on drugs receive and are 1588 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,760 Speaker 1: able to participate on the economic side, you're the extremists. 1589 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:25,120 Speaker 1: If you believe that not having voting rights, expanding and 1590 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 1: protecting the right for everybody, no matter what they want 1591 01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,080 Speaker 1: to vote for is not fundamental in the United States 1592 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,320 Speaker 1: of America. You're the extremists. If you don't want to 1593 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 1: see minimum wage increase, everything else is going up, why 1594 01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 1: not minimum wage? You're the damn extremists. So listen, Progressives 1595 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,280 Speaker 1: need to keep being hard charging. And as I said 1596 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,280 Speaker 1: on seeing that, let's gas up the jet, let's gas 1597 01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:48,880 Speaker 1: up the cars, even though gas prices are so damn high, 1598 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,320 Speaker 1: so many people can't necessarily afford it, but the White 1599 01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,800 Speaker 1: House can afford to gas up the jets. I mean, 1600 01:24:57,920 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: let me ask you this, though, Nina, because you said 1601 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,599 Speaker 1: the progressives in Congress need to continue to fight like hell. 1602 01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:04,360 Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna be honest with you, I haven't 1603 01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:06,240 Speaker 1: seen them fighting like hell. I mean, there seems to 1604 01:25:06,240 --> 01:25:08,400 Speaker 1: have been decision. I don't want to re litigate force 1605 01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 1: the vote for the millionth time, But there was a 1606 01:25:10,920 --> 01:25:13,320 Speaker 1: sort of pivot point at the beginning of the Congress 1607 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:17,080 Speaker 1: of they could take a more adversarial approach towards democratic 1608 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 1: leadership and make clear to the American people here's the 1609 01:25:20,240 --> 01:25:23,960 Speaker 1: real divide within the party, or they could try to 1610 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 1: position themselves to influence the bills that were coming out 1611 01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,240 Speaker 1: as they were making their way through Congress and have 1612 01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,599 Speaker 1: their own strategy, which is what you refer to. Okay, 1613 01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:35,439 Speaker 1: let's try to keep these bills tied together. Ultimately that 1614 01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,960 Speaker 1: strategy didn't work, you know, when it came down to it, 1615 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,439 Speaker 1: there was a lot of pressure on the Progressive Caucus 1616 01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:44,519 Speaker 1: to effectively fold and let the infrastructure bill go through 1617 01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 1: without also tying it to build back better. There were 1618 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:50,559 Speaker 1: some Squad members who continued to dissent, but ultimately the 1619 01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:55,479 Speaker 1: strategy did not work, and so their efforts to you know, 1620 01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:58,599 Speaker 1: push Biden left and be a voice inside the room 1621 01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,840 Speaker 1: haven't born and a lot of fruit. So what would 1622 01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,439 Speaker 1: be your advice to them as they head into this 1623 01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,840 Speaker 1: year of how they could be more effective with the 1624 01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,880 Speaker 1: positions of power that they have. Remember what separates them 1625 01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,920 Speaker 1: from the extremist Democrats from the mainline Democrats. That's what 1626 01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,000 Speaker 1: they have to do. So Mary and Williamson is right. 1627 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:22,040 Speaker 1: The why crosses all intersects here or intercepts. It is 1628 01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 1: why are you there, why are you fighting? And what 1629 01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,840 Speaker 1: makes you different from mainline and CORPORATEUS Democrats. Don't lose 1630 01:26:28,840 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 1: sight of that and don't allow mainstream media anybody else 1631 01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:35,840 Speaker 1: to talk you out of standing up for humanity. So 1632 01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:38,200 Speaker 1: you're right, because I mean, the people disappoint all the time. Now, 1633 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,799 Speaker 1: I disappoint everybody disappointed. Just because that's the reality today 1634 01:26:41,800 --> 01:26:44,200 Speaker 1: does not mean that that has to be the reality tomorrow. 1635 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:47,799 Speaker 1: So the Progressive just as President Biden can, I believe, 1636 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,679 Speaker 1: overcome his approval rating by giving people something they can feel. 1637 01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,760 Speaker 1: I do believe that the Progressive cautus can overcome this 1638 01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:58,840 Speaker 1: moment and use their power. Why should Senators Mansion and 1639 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,759 Speaker 1: Senema get to have all the fun they are holding 1640 01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 1: up the agenda on the bad end, how about progressives 1641 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:07,280 Speaker 1: stand strong and hold it up on the on the 1642 01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,719 Speaker 1: on the stronger end. They are the largest caucus in 1643 01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 1: the in the United States Congress right now and they 1644 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,000 Speaker 1: need to act like it. So kudos to the squad 1645 01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,599 Speaker 1: for standing up extra strong. And there should have been 1646 01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,960 Speaker 1: some other members of that Progressive caucus to do the same. 1647 01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:24,160 Speaker 1: And this is not I'm not indicting them here today. 1648 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:28,600 Speaker 1: What I am saying is remember what makes you different 1649 01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:31,960 Speaker 1: and hold strong to that. And if you know you 1650 01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:34,320 Speaker 1: are fighting for what is just, for what is right, 1651 01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:37,080 Speaker 1: and for what is good, really, the hell with what 1652 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:39,599 Speaker 1: other people have to say and yes, is there a 1653 01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:44,240 Speaker 1: consequence for fighting for justice? Yes, there is, But baby, 1654 01:27:44,760 --> 01:27:49,160 Speaker 1: it is a consequence and a risk worth taking because 1655 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,160 Speaker 1: the American people need somebody or a group of somebody 1656 01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: to hold fast to standing up for what they need. 1657 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,240 Speaker 1: We need it, we certainly do. I'm not sure we're 1658 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,840 Speaker 1: going to see in the White House though. Great to 1659 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:04,640 Speaker 1: see you, Anina. Thank you so much for taking some 1660 01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 1: time and tell people where do you want them to 1661 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,160 Speaker 1: follow you? Well? Thanks for having me, and I just 1662 01:28:10,200 --> 01:28:13,240 Speaker 1: want to thank you both for your courage. I mean, 1663 01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:18,160 Speaker 1: we need alternative media resources and you all are certainly 1664 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,400 Speaker 1: the best of the best. Best. People can find me 1665 01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:25,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter at Nina Turner The Graham Nina Turner Ohio 1666 01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:29,639 Speaker 1: and Facebook Nina Turner Perfect. Thank you, Nina, appreciate it. 1667 01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:32,320 Speaker 1: Great to see you. Thank you both. Thank you guys 1668 01:28:32,360 --> 01:28:35,120 Speaker 1: so much for watching. Thanks for bearing with our snow schedule. 1669 01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:38,040 Speaker 1: If you don't know, everything shuts down here within like 1670 01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,920 Speaker 1: two month, two inches of snow causes complete havoc, so 1671 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,680 Speaker 1: we appreciate that. Of course, we appreciate your support. We 1672 01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,559 Speaker 1: have got three shows here. We all have Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday. 1673 01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,240 Speaker 1: It's going to be amazing. If you could support us, 1674 01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:51,760 Speaker 1: we appreciate it. Link is there in description. And We'll 1675 01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:53,479 Speaker 1: see you all tomorrow. Love you, I'll see you back 1676 01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:54,040 Speaker 1: here tomorrow.