1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 1: Hell, guys, and welcome back to another reason of casual chaos. Angela, 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: welcome to casual chaos. 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 3: How are your problem? 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 4: I'm good? How are you? Do you want me to 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 4: say Angela? 7 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Just let it flow? Like people ask to like should 8 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 2: I say Angela or black China? But if everybody keeps saying, hey, 9 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: it's black China, you. 10 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 4: Know the world knows you as black China. 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: But given your name is Angela white, when did you 12 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: start going by black China? 13 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 2: Two thousand and seven? 14 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 3: No, two thousand and six, And how did that come about? 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 2: It came about because I was an exotic dancer. I 16 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: was a scripper. 17 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: And then do you like that that is a part 18 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 1: of you or do you wish at some points. 19 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 4: You can drop that. 20 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: No? I love it. 21 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 3: You gotta embrace right, absolutely. 22 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 2: Love it because all of these things make me, you 23 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 2: feel me in like, come on, we all have a 24 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 2: scripper friend. Or if you don't know she's a scripper, 25 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: he's a stripper. If you see some tall, tall, tall 26 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: hills in the back, write me to ask some that question. 27 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 1: No, there was a girl in my sorority at college 28 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 1: who she became a stripper and it was everyone was 29 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: jaw dropped. But I was like, go off, like you're 30 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: doing what you gotta do. She was killing it. 31 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 4: She was something for Halloween. 32 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: I forget what she was, but she literally went and 33 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: like got the wig, like professionally put on. She's like, girl, 34 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 1: do you know how much it costs to put this 35 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: on me? And I was like she was so funny. 36 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 4: But she was awesome. 37 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: What sorority are you in? 38 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 4: I in Zta Zeta at Rutgers. Okay, were you in 39 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:47,400 Speaker 4: a sorority? 40 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: No? I was in a scrip club. If you want 41 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 2: to say we were sisters. 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 4: We are, Okay. I love that. Okay. 43 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: So you rose to fame at the age of twenty 44 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: two and twenty ten, your name was dropped and the 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: Drake song Miss Me, and then later on that year 46 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: you were a stunt double for Nicki Minaj and Kanye 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: West's music video for Monster. Did you feel like your 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: life changed overnight during that moment? 49 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 2: No, I was still in the strip club. Absolutely not. Baby. 50 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 2: Just because somebody put your name in this song does 51 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 2: not mean quins. You know, it does get you to 52 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: notoriety of people come into the club and seeing you 53 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 2: and things of that sort, But that wasn't what really 54 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 2: did it. 55 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 4: So what did do it for you? 56 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 2: It was a multitude of things, but mostly me, it 57 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: was me just being an ultimate hustler, just hustling for everything. Yeah, 58 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 2: and then my cosmetics, a store that at the time 59 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 2: I had had eighty eight finn I had Lash Cosmetics. 60 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously working at the strip club, I'm sure 61 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: you made a lot of money there. But then when 62 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: did you feel like, Okay, I'm being recognized. 63 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 2: I would have to say, when people stop calling or 64 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: saying I look like Nicki Minaj. 65 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 4: Did you like that? 66 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 67 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 2: I loved it. It was cute because I actually know Nicki. 68 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 2: So I feel like that's when people really started to 69 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: get to know me, you know what I mean, Because 70 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: if you look like somebody, they're gonna be like, oh 71 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 2: my gosh, like people they walk up to you on 72 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: the street. Because I've always been her. Like, if it 73 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 2: was in a strip club, people already knew who I was. 74 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 2: If it was magazines, they already knew who I was. 75 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: But now this is a whole different ballgame where it's 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 2: like real media, real tabloids, all of that. So the 77 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 2: moment when people started walking up to me and saying 78 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: black China and not excuse me, you look like Nicki Minaj. 79 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: And I'd be like, oh, thank you. You want to 80 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: take a picture still, because Leyden, you'd be like, oh 81 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 2: my gosh, that was actually black China. 82 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 4: Wait where did you grow up? 83 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: I grew up in Washington, DC? 84 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 4: Okay. And then did you eventually make a move to La? 85 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: No? From there was Miami? 86 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 4: Okay. 87 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: I went to Miami because I was going to Johnston 88 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 2: Wells j WU in Miami, which was a culinary art school, 89 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: but I was going there for business management. So that's 90 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 2: when I had moved to Miami. And then after Miami, 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: I came to LA and I've been out here ever since. 92 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: I love La. Yeah. 93 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 1: No, La is great, a lot of opportunities and you're 94 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: definitely surrounded by you know, a good a good circle. 95 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: I would say, did you ever feel like ever walking 96 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: away from the spotlight completely? 97 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: I could anybody walk away from the spotlight? 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 3: No, You're right, it depends on. 99 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: Like what spotlight means to you. Like I felt like 100 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: I've always been like noticed or somebody in whatever rim 101 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 2: of life that I was in, whether it was high school, 102 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: you knew who I was. If it was in a 103 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,280 Speaker 2: strip club, you knew who I was. If it was 104 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: with the hair and makeup like you knew, It's just 105 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: it's just different rims. I don't think it was a 106 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 2: time where like nobody where it was a time where 107 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,559 Speaker 2: I was a nobody, or at least I never felt 108 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,279 Speaker 2: like that anyway. 109 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: You always felt like people knew you, people talked about you. 110 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: You were always in people's ear. And I mean that's 111 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: a great point that you know, even at points now, 112 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: you know when life gets dark, because my family's been 113 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: through some pretty dark points, and I'm sure you know 114 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: everyone has a broken window in their home. Everyone goes 115 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: through it. But even when the moments get dark, that's 116 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: when the people talk about you the most. And then 117 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 1: from there it's you really can't walk away from it. 118 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 4: No matter what. Once you're already in. 119 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: The public eye, people are always going to know who 120 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: you are, maybe not as much at certain points in 121 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: you like certain points in time, some people will be 122 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: bigger than you, and then you'll come back. But no 123 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: matter what, you're always gonna people are always gonna know. 124 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: People always know you, And honestly, it depends on what 125 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: you want to be left off being known as So 126 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: if somebody was to walk away when they're obviously setting 127 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 2: a positive example, then that's like a good walk away. 128 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 2: Now walking away because of drum and stuff like that. 129 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: You don't want to be known or less seen doing that, 130 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 2: you know. And then also so you have to think 131 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: it's a different entertainer influencer that's coming out every day. 132 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: You know. So if you don't stay with the Joneses, 133 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 2: you're gonna naturally, you're gonna naturally get left behind without 134 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 2: you even walking away. You don't have to walk away 135 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: because you're not interested enough for me to even follow you. 136 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: So that's what happens to. We'd be like, dang, like 137 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: whatever happened to? Oh yeah, that's because they didn't keep 138 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: up with the Joneses. That's why you have like your Rihanna's, 139 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 2: your jay Z's, you're Beyonces, they're Jays j Low's. They're 140 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: always in the mix. They don't stay in the mix. 141 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: Oh Snoop Dogg, I always always reinventing themselves. 142 00:06:58,560 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 4: You're right and following the. 143 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 2: Track, like setting the trends. 144 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: On Beyonce coming out with her country album, no one 145 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: would ever thinks she would do that and then she 146 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: flipped heads. Everyone was freaking out and loving it. 147 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 2: It was freaking out, but it was talking so much, 148 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But let's take away like 149 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 2: the name, Like we're talking about the talent, and that's 150 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 2: that's what the problem is. Because if it wasn't Beyonce 151 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 2: and it was somebody else, then it wouldn't be a problem. 152 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 2: But because Beyonce, she's talented, why would she put herself 153 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: in the box? And I feel like that way with anybody. 154 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 2: You can be talented and do other things, just even 155 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: for your mindset, Like if everything's in a repetition and 156 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: a spiral, you're gonna lose it. We have to use 157 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: our God given talents to bless this world, and she's 158 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: been blessing us too. 159 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: I love that m'sa she is, She's awesome. 160 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: To fast forward a bit, your relationship with the father 161 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: of your child became very public and you talked about 162 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: being publicly. 163 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: Humiliated during that time. 164 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: What was the hardest part about going through these breakups 165 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: with the world watching and being involved with one of 166 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: the most famous families in the industry. 167 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,960 Speaker 2: I'm that answering your next question, no problem. 168 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 4: How do you keep yourself emotionally strong for your kids. 169 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 2: By praying and keeping to myself and not saying things 170 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,120 Speaker 2: that doesn't really matter. I only talk about the things 171 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: that matter and what's important and as God's sobriety and 172 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 2: that's just really it, the Bible, just everything positive. 173 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: Throughout all of like the craziness. What has been like 174 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: your biggest piece of advice for your kids? 175 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,119 Speaker 4: Your daughter Dream is beautiful. 176 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 2: I see you's baby. 177 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 4: She is so gorgeous. 178 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: I see her on my social media all the time, 179 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: and her relationship with her cousins remind me so much 180 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: much of how I was with my cousins. Like when 181 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: you're at family parties and then you and the cousins 182 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: go off and you can, like you choreograph your own little. 183 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: Dance and then perform it in front of everyone. 184 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 2: Love it. 185 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: They are the cutest thing. And she seems just like 186 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: such a sweetheart. 187 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: She is. She gets it from her mama. No, but no, 188 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: she does. Though I feel like a lot of things 189 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 2: that drink does, I literally crack up. I'm like, you 190 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 2: are literally Like It's been times when she'll do stuff 191 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: that she's never seen me do before, and I'm like, Okay, yeah, 192 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: maybe I'm starting to believe like this genetic thing might 193 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: might be, might have some truth to it. But on No, 194 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: I don't. I just leave by example, I don't push 195 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:48,199 Speaker 2: anything like on King or Dream. I let them be children. 196 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: I don't. That's why I don't rarely post them because 197 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 2: I feel like, just in this day and age, everything 198 00:09:55,120 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: is just so overstimulating and I don't want them to 199 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 2: ever be be overstimulated or feel like they have to 200 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 2: fit in or they have to do something, or they 201 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 2: have to quote unquote work because social media and all 202 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: this stuff is works. It's not like, oh, it's just 203 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 2: like a fun time. So that's really good. 204 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of that, that's what I was going to 205 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: ask you, Like, you've gotten a. 206 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: Lot of praise of how you raise King and Dream, 207 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 1: and what kind of parenting rules have you set around fame, privacy, 208 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 1: and social media in your household? 209 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 2: Well, they can't have TikTok or Instagram or nothing like that. 210 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 2: Imagine I get up in dreams on TikTok live getting 211 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: those gifts wait for me. No, I kidding? 212 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 3: How old is she? 213 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 4: How old are can you? 214 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,479 Speaker 2: Waking dreams? Eight? And then she'll be nine in November? 215 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: And then Jing is twelve. He'll be thirteen this year, 216 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 2: and I was like, wow, time goes by very very 217 00:10:55,520 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 2: very sound quick, and there's still babies like I don't 218 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 2: really and they have a let me tell you something. 219 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: They have a lot of common sense and they're very vocal. 220 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 2: It's nothing that they can't come to me and like 221 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: talk about. But it has never been like a combative 222 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: thing like hey, you can't be on the Instagram or 223 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: social media or anything like that. It's just like this 224 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: is what it is. 225 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, they just like respect it. 226 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 227 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Obviously they're aware that, you know, their parents are very 228 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 1: public figures. So do they look at it as a 229 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: way of you protecting them? 230 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: No, this has just always been your life. This is 231 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 2: like their norm. If this was just to happen today 232 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 2: or tomorrow, then it would be at normal. But this 233 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 2: is like their day to day. So it's not like 234 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: they're like super spoiled running around here like give me money, 235 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: give me money. It's like they've always been around money, 236 00:11:49,559 --> 00:11:52,079 Speaker 2: both of them. They've always had things. So it's even 237 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 2: funny because King Hill ask me. He's like, Mom, can 238 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 2: you send me some money? And I'm like, yeah, how 239 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: much you need? King like I don't care. He's keep 240 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,559 Speaker 2: ever playing it for me. So I need to get 241 00:12:00,559 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: something in Roe Books and I'm like, okay, King, Like 242 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 2: how much is He's like, I just need you to 243 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 2: send me two dollars? No, it was three dollars. I 244 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 2: need you to send me three dollars. Now, like three 245 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 2: dollars King, I'm like okay, So I sent ten and 246 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: then I get another like ing and he sent me 247 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: seven dollars back. 248 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 3: No, why God for donna you give me ten? 249 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: I give me nine back. 250 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: Now I'm going right because it's like a cheat. It's 251 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 4: a tree. 252 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: When my dad used to give me more than I 253 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: asked for, I'm like, thank you very much. 254 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. Then I'm like, is this a trick question? Do 255 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 2: you really need ten? You're just trying to be easy 256 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 2: because you know I'm gonna send more. No, But that's 257 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: that's what they don't. They don't like ask for too much. 258 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: And I'm happy for that, but I feel like most 259 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: of the times when money or tangible things come about 260 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: is when you can't give them the proper attention that 261 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 2: they need. And Benezolda gets a boy and a girl 262 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 2: that are totally different, so it's like the attention I 263 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 2: have to give. Dream is totally different from King, but 264 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 2: the love is still there. They love is equal. 265 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 4: Are they are they super close? 266 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: Yeah? They are King? Oh my goodness. They're so funny 267 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: because I'm an only child. So when they get the 268 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 2: bicker in and Steven, I'm just like, this is great. 269 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,079 Speaker 2: This is all I ever wanted growing up was say 270 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: hear this right? 271 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm one of four and the house is 272 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: never quiet, so it's like never quiet, and I'm moving 273 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: out soon, closer to the city. And I just told 274 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: my youngest sister because I'm the oldest. And then my 275 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: two sisters are twenty and nineteen, but they they they're 276 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: at college, so they're leaving for college soon. And then 277 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: my youngest sister is fifteen, and I just told her 278 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: that I'm moving out in the fall, and she was like, 279 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: no way, Like, you're gonna leave me. I'm gonna be 280 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: in this house all alone. She was like, who am 281 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I going to go to pilates with? 282 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 4: What is what is going on? 283 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: No, that's sweet. This is She's gonna build fee so 284 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: much character. Why you guys are going Oh, I know, 285 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 2: but the thing is, I feel like you're gonna miss 286 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: them the most, ohcause you're. 287 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 4: Like, I'm gonna miss them so much. 288 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: I just I felt my whole life that I've always 289 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: had to be home to kind of just protect my 290 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 1: siblings and just always be around if my mom ever 291 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: needed anything. So it was always that like sense of Okay, 292 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm home, things are okay if they need to ride. 293 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: I was just always there. 294 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: And you know, when your career brings you to this 295 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: point where the commuting's too much, or you know you 296 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: have to make that change, that move, and that change 297 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: for yourself, it's a weird feeling because I'm like, Okay, 298 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: I could still stick it out and stay home and 299 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: run myself dry every day and be exhausted every day, 300 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: or I could make my life a little easier. And 301 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever really done that for myself. 302 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: And now I'm gonna do that, and I think it's 303 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: just like a weird feeling. 304 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: It's gonna be so, it's gonna be so creat you're 305 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: gonna you're gonna open up the key to your door. 306 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 2: It might be stuff in it, it might be an air mattress. 307 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: Who knows, because we all got to start off with 308 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 2: an air mattress. 309 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Oh, literally, I'm gonna have like my 310 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: TV and my air mattress on my yeah. 311 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Like and it's like you want to come up like 312 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: and you look at that and you get motivated. You're like, yeah, 313 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna stack my money and and go out and 314 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: do my thing. But it's gonna be good for you. 315 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 2: It's healthy. And I'm just glad and I'm just glad 316 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 2: for you that it wasn't a thing towards though you 317 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 2: were pushed out because a lot of times in the 318 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 2: and well, i'm not gonna say a lot of times 319 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,720 Speaker 2: for me. Once you get to a certain age, it's 320 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: like you gotta go figure it out, get out of 321 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: my house, you know. So it's like it's two different things. 322 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: So blessings to you that you get to say and 323 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and grat and gracefully leave, 324 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 2: you know, like that is a blessing. And then you 325 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 2: just just can come visit you. 326 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: That's what I saw, that you could come and spend 327 00:15:58,800 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 4: a weekend with me. 328 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: It'll be I was like, I'll be right by the city, 329 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: we could have a girl's day, it'll be awesome. 330 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: It's cool me that you're so sweet me too. Thank you. 331 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Have your children ever asked about your career? Are they 332 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: ever at this point where they ask about your career 333 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: and what you did growing up and how you kind 334 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: of got to this point? Even King asking his dad like, oh, Daddy, like, 335 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: how did you make it to this point? Because I 336 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: grew up on it when I was really little too, 337 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: like just being in the reality TV space. And it's 338 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: weird because now I like have started to ask my 339 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: parents like, oh, did you actually have a conversation with 340 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: us before going on reality TV? 341 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 4: Like did we ever say it was okay? 342 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 2: Yet? 343 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 4: No, definitely not. 344 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: Roll the cameras, Like did you ever ask us if 345 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: this if this was okay? And they were like, well, 346 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: you guys were so little at the time that it 347 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: was kind of like every little girl's dream. You were 348 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: so into dance and modeling that you loved the cameras around. 349 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: And I was like, Okay, I get that. 350 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: That's why I'm so protective over dream and the cameras 351 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 2: and stuff. I'll like let her do small things like 352 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: the Nicki Minaj's challenge because she killed fake I don't 353 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: know if you see anybody's on my page, just like 354 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 2: a glimpse because I don't want to have her feel like, Okay, 355 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 2: I can't do it at all, like with my mom. 356 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: So I'll do like little cute videos, a little TikTok 357 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 2: video or something like that, because I feel like if 358 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: I expose her too early, then it's going to discarage her. 359 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 2: And I just want to protect her energy so when 360 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 2: she do go out, she can have the leisure to 361 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 2: do whatever she want to do. So I'm not going 362 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 2: to say hey, because Dream does music, she does by 363 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 2: let hip hop gymnastics. Like I'm like, you're not tired, 364 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 2: and she's not. 365 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: You know that was like me and you were like 366 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: my mom my mom put me in everything, and that's 367 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: what also like keeps us going. And then you know, 368 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 1: eventually she's gonna find what she really loves, yeah, and 369 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: then she's going to pursue that like she's never pursued 370 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: anything before. 371 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,919 Speaker 4: And that was like me. 372 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 1: I fell in love with tumbling and gymnastics and cheer 373 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 1: so I like settled on competitive cheerleading because it was 374 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: kind of a mixture. It was dance and gymnastics, so 375 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 1: I liked the both and I found something that kind 376 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: of gave me that happy medium, and that's what I 377 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: pursued all throughout, like all throughout high school pretty much. 378 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 4: And then when I went to college. 379 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: You know, my career started picking up and I wanted 380 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:44,479 Speaker 1: to just be a normal college kid. But but yeah, no, 381 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: it was it was definitely an experience. And I mean, 382 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: I feel like as parents, you know, my parents, you 383 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: you try to do the best that you can to 384 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: protect your children from the outside world, honestly, because the 385 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: outside world is where things get harsh and people get 386 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: mean and the comments could be overwhelming. 387 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 4: So you know, Dream is. 388 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: So sweet and innocent and she's still so pure that like, 389 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: and same with King. You know, they're just at an 390 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: age where and this is where it gets difficult too, 391 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: because the generational growth that has just been happening over 392 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,360 Speaker 1: the past years. 393 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 4: Is so scary. Kids grow up so fast, they get 394 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 4: exposed to so many things so early now. 395 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 2: And I got it into the bubble. I got it 396 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 2: in the bubble, the bubble and good bubble too. 397 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you have to because it's so scary. 398 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: It's very scary. They're very, very very kid like, even 399 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 2: kitty like kitty like because I was like, when I 400 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 2: was not even really Dream I would say my dream 401 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: is intellectually uh mature for sure. KINGI is like still 402 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: like my I don't know. To me, I don't know 403 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 2: if he's put on the front, but to me, he's 404 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: still like a baby. I'm like, you can't do that, King, 405 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 2: I want you to do it. No, you do it. 406 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: Dreams Still I'm like, and you can do that, you 407 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: can do this, and I just still want me to 408 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 2: do it. But they're just still baby like, I don't know. 409 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll do it when they're by themselves, but when 410 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: you're around, they're like, mommy. 411 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: Please, right, I'm on to them the whole thing. 412 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: It's like you're trying to protect them, and I think, 413 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, honestly, my youngest sister, she because when all 414 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,880 Speaker 1: the legal stuff went on with my family and when 415 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: we were going through a lot of stuff just publicly. 416 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: She she was six, but then as she got older, 417 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: it was also just mean kids in school saying things 418 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: to her like oh, your parents are in jail, or 419 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: like you know, little things here and there that Once 420 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: she got a phone, you know, then she's exposed to 421 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: the comments and things on social media. 422 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: So even though we did not. 423 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: Tell her at six years old, that her parents that 424 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, mommy and daddy are going to be going 425 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: to jail. We never said that. We said that they 426 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: were going to camp and they have to go for work, 427 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: and we always made that narrative to her. But you 428 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: know now and it's so weird and you get like 429 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: chills when she says this to us. She always knew 430 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: where they were going, she said, she goes. I always 431 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: knew where they were going, and I just never wanted 432 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: you guys to, you know, worry that like I wasn't okay, 433 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,359 Speaker 1: but like I always knew, and she knew because of 434 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: the outside world and because of other people, not because 435 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: of your inner circle. 436 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,000 Speaker 4: And that's where it gets. That's where so and. 437 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: This is I'm glad that we're having this conversation because 438 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 2: it's given me a really good insight just with my 439 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 2: with my personal life and my children. That's why I 440 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: can and dream. They know everything, and I'm very vocal. 441 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 2: I'll tell them like, hey, this is what this is. 442 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 2: Or king those I used to be a dancer. I 443 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: told him, you know what I mean and what it was, 444 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 2: but I did it in a joking. You're like flowers, 445 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: this is the day before you King He's just silight. 446 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 2: He's like what, I'm like, yeah, King, this is like 447 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,920 Speaker 2: way before you. But I'm very vocal with them with 448 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 2: my sobriety. They even make jokes like to me and 449 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 2: stuff like that. Like I was like, you know, am 450 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 2: I to be doing my my Uh? This was when 451 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 2: I was turning two years sober and Dream was like, 452 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: well I think CHECKI said, well, I'm seven years sober. 453 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 2: Like they just say little funny things because they when 454 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 2: they would see like the balloons and stuff, They're like, 455 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 2: what is this something like this is my sobriety and 456 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: because mommy doesn't drink alcohol and things like that, and 457 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: King's like, I'll never drink alcohol. So we just have 458 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 2: like these these real life conversations and it feels good 459 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: because at the end of the day, these are my children. 460 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 2: I gotta be real them because I would want somebody 461 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,880 Speaker 2: to be real me because if I'm real with them, 462 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 2: they'll always know how I'm coming regardless, you know. And 463 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 2: I feel like it with saying certain things, it's always 464 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: about the timy and the tone. Like if I if 465 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 2: I explain something to you in a sweet, calm, gentle tone, 466 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 2: you understand, you know, have a which way or whatever 467 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,639 Speaker 2: it is that I'm talking about, Like you, what is 468 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: it dissect dissected way better than any any other way. 469 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: That's probably I think even you know, from a child's perspective, 470 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: and you know, I obviously don't have children yet, but 471 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 1: I see the way you know, how you're speaking, how 472 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: you're so honest with your kids, and that is that's 473 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: like my mom. As much as she was like a 474 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: parent and obviously a parent to us, she was always 475 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: so honest with us and always put us in a 476 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: direction where it was like, okay, girls, do the because 477 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,679 Speaker 1: I want you to be better than mommy, and I 478 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,920 Speaker 1: don't want you to make the same mistakes that mommy did, 479 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 1: so let's move in this direction. 480 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 4: And I think when you're honest with your children and. 481 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: Really just like they see that vulnerability in you and 482 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,119 Speaker 1: they just they feel it ten times more so, like 483 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,160 Speaker 1: King saying, Mommy, I'm never gonna drink. He probably could 484 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: see that drinking hurt you in the past, so he's like, 485 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: I would never want to do that, you know, just 486 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,919 Speaker 1: little things that they pick up on, and it's like, 487 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: it's really beautiful that you're so honest with your kids 488 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: because they're. 489 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: Going to appreciate that one day. 490 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: Thank you. 491 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 1: So You're starring in a new film named A Pardon 492 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Me coming out August fifteenth, based on a real life 493 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: story of Bevelyn Williams. 494 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 3: Tell me about this a Christian based movie. 495 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 2: And when I met Bevelyn, I just felt compelled by 496 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 2: her story. I love the fact that she was just 497 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: so open and honest and even wanting to share this 498 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: with the world and being so vulnerable with the content 499 00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,879 Speaker 2: of the film because it will and I know this too, 500 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 2: it was going to definitely cause a lot of controversy 501 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 2: and uproar, and I'm cool with that. That's good because 502 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 2: I feel like in this world, everybody has their own 503 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 2: opinions and beliefs and morals, and a lot of times 504 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,479 Speaker 2: people don't really talk about how they really feel. And 505 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 2: that's what we need in it's life. We need more 506 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 2: leaders or people to at least stand up and speak 507 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 2: on how they truly feel. 508 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: But when I got there, it was well, this movie 509 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 1: is based on The Face Act, right, which is just 510 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 1: a really compelling story. 511 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, and I am so. I got like a 512 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 2: little like a few people that was like, oh, I'm 513 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: on following you because of the movie and I was like, okay, 514 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: unfollowing me, and then I thought it was kind of 515 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 2: funny because at the very end of the day, this 516 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 2: is my very first lead role as an actress. Like, 517 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 2: this is my very first lead role, so. 518 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 4: First time you did anything scripted like this. 519 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 2: Now I've done stripped before, but this is my first 520 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: lead role. So I am Beverly in the movie. 521 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: That's amazing. Congratulations, Yeah, yep, yep, yep. How was it filming? 522 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: It was? It was awesome. It was good because Bevlin 523 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 2: was there and I was able to really talk to 524 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 2: her and tap in and really get to learn her 525 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 2: more just from reading the script or seeing things on 526 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 2: the TV about her or going to YouTube. It's just 527 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 2: a total It's just totally different, and it kind of 528 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 2: reminded me of myself because people have these perceptions of me, 529 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: but then when you meet me, you're like, oh, wait, 530 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: it kind of could you kind of I like you 531 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: And I'm like, way, I like you too. We'll be 532 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 2: doing it. Yeah. So that's how That's how it was 533 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,439 Speaker 2: with her. But it was times when I was on 534 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: the movie set and I'm like, I'm getting in my 535 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: head because I want to nail it so bad because 536 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 2: it's not like I could just go and just be 537 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 2: myself or make up the character as I go along. 538 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 2: It's like I'm trying to tap in to a different person. 539 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 4: For sure. 540 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: It's really but I what I must. 541 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,400 Speaker 2: Say, I did a really good job. I can't wait 542 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: to see it. 543 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure you killed it. I'm so excited to watch you. 544 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 2: I can't wait. 545 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 3: I can't wait. 546 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 2: I can't wait for this to come out. 547 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: What impact are you hoping this film makes on people's lives? 548 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 2: I hope that this impact truly opens their eyes to 549 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: Angela White, that a woman can come from being a 550 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 2: scripper and from the drama and from this and this 551 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: and change her life and really follow her dreams and 552 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: step outside of the box to empower the next person, 553 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 2: because who else could play Beth and like Williams of 554 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 2: it and Angelo White, you know. So it's like it's 555 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 2: all these different steps because we were really hard on 556 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 2: ourselves and sometimes we can't forget and forgive to even 557 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: ourselves and forget and forgives, so you could give yourself 558 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: grace to move on. A lot of people get stuck 559 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: in the past or stuck in their own waists and 560 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: even their thoughts will hinder them even before they go 561 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 2: out and try to do something different. So I'm hoping 562 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: that when people see this they'd be like, Wow, let 563 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: me go pick up my Bible and get right with 564 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:21,800 Speaker 2: the lure. Because the way that Angelo White is winning 565 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: right now, something has to give. 566 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 1: So you were also on the second season of Special Forces. 567 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: What was that experience like for you? 568 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: Wow? 569 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So first off I thought, wait, can before you start, 570 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: can I give you a little secret? 571 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 572 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: I was just on it. 573 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,280 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what did your film? Was it cold 574 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 2: or hot? 575 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: We were hot? Thank god? 576 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 2: Oh I was freezing. Oh my goodness. 577 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 4: You were in Wales, right, We were in New Zealand. 578 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: It was freezing. It was freezing cold. That one challenge, 579 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: I couldn't walk down that that that damn with that 580 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: with the water underneath. I don't know about this. I'm like, 581 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 2: and that's so embarrassing. Imagine my harness popping and I'm 582 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 2: just no, no, no, that's embarrassing. I'm not gonna go 583 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 2: out like that and be embarrassed. 584 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 4: Did you ever actually feel like you were gonna die? 585 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: I couldn't do what I got over the ledge I 586 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 2: looked down and I just was like, I can't go out. 587 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 2: I cannot go out like this. I was like, I 588 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: can't do that. I can't do it. I gotta go. 589 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 2: They're like, what if you come back on and you 590 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: gotta go? Listen, Like they couldn't get they should at 591 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 2: least give like people two tries or like two skips 592 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 2: or something that I felt like it was like no skips. 593 00:29:58,760 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 4: Well that was the thing. 594 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: They did care if you failed the challenge, but you 595 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: had to attempt it, which was I think the most 596 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: nerve wracking thing of it all that they. 597 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 2: Just sent me home. It was like bye bye, Miss White. 598 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: I was like, bye, did you feel did you feel 599 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 2: kind of crazy when you came back? Even though it was, uh, 600 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 2: it's not scripted, but even even even though you know 601 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 2: it's not real, but it but it is real, meaning 602 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 2: like you can't go home like that's that's the real 603 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 2: part about it. No why by it's no phone, no chapstick, 604 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: no face cream, none of your personal things. But when you. 605 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: Shower, the shower and toilet situation was horrible and it 606 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: was you know, I feel like people really don't understand 607 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: that this was the this was the I think probably 608 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: you two hardest thing of my life. 609 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: It was crazy mine's it was a scary. Did you 610 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: see like the mountains that we was riding with those 611 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 2: trucks and the guy would just be flying. I was 612 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 2: having heart attacks every time we got in those trucks. 613 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, yeah. 614 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 4: And then how talented the actual camera crew was. 615 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 3: Oh yeah there, Oh my. 616 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: God, climbing on the mountains doing everything that we were doing. 617 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, we think that we have to be fit, 618 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: but no, you you people are also carrying these cameras 619 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: like it was wild. 620 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,959 Speaker 4: But do you feel like it was the hardest thing 621 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 4: you've ever done? 622 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 2: Ah? Not the hardest, No, not the hardest thing really. 623 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I was I thought I cried almost 624 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: every day. 625 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it wasn't. It wasn't the It wasn't the 626 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 2: hardest thing. It was just you know, you just didn't 627 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: know what was going on, Like you didn't know if 628 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 2: they was gonna wake you up, it about your sleep, 629 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 2: if what time you were we was going to eat. 630 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: That was my biggest thing. I love some food. I'm like, hey, 631 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:58,200 Speaker 2: there's some food. 632 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: Out of all the DS's, who did you connect with 633 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: the most. 634 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, what. 635 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 4: Was so rudy? There was Rudy, Q, Foxy, and I. 636 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,959 Speaker 2: Think it was Q towards it was Q after. But 637 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: when I was in there, none of them, None of 638 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 2: them because you know, they stay in character like they're 639 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: not there to be your friend. 640 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:30,240 Speaker 4: No, oh my god, it was you. No right, no Q. 641 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: I have to say Q and Rudy and even they 642 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: pushed me the most. They were screaming in my face 643 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: the whole time. 644 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 4: I was like, oh my. 645 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 2: God, did they do the whole bag over the face thing? 646 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: Uh huh yeah, I heard my ded doing it. I 647 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 2: would get them. My knee was right the whole time. 648 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 2: I was like, They're like, we don't care about your day. 649 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,280 Speaker 4: It was real. 650 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: It was well, I have to I definitely need to 651 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: tune in now. This is this is good. I told people. 652 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'm especially for it because it 653 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 2: was like when we watched two episodes and you were gone, 654 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: I was like, I had to go. It was too hard. 655 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 2: It was too it was too difficult for me. 656 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 1: You've also done incredible work with Katerina's Club. For those 657 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: who may not know, what is the mission behind this organization. 658 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: To feed children to feed children, to go out and 659 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 2: be a part of the community. Bruto a part of 660 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: what Bruto is. He feeds five thousand children today. 661 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 4: That's amazing. 662 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: As his trucks at the kitchen. I love going to 663 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: the kitchen. I've actually cooked with him too, Like it 664 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 2: is actually really good food. It's not like it's. 665 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 5: Like pasta, real chicken, real vegetables and cakes, pastries, So 666 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 5: it's really good food and healthy food too at that 667 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 5: because it's one thing to feed the children, but are 668 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 5: you really feeding them? 669 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 2: Like what are you feeding? What are you given to them? 670 00:33:58,560 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 2: Because the sandwich is not going to. 671 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 4: Cut it, no, for sure. So what kind of work 672 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 4: have you been able to do with this nonprofit? 673 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: Just simply just give back and just be apart. That's it. 674 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: What's next for you? Are there any projects that you 675 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: can share or want to work on in the future. 676 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,840 Speaker 2: Yes, I uh, I want to be the next Catwoman. 677 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 2: I'm working on it. 678 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: They're they're like they're read they're like reinventing these old, 679 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,320 Speaker 1: these superhero movies. 680 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 4: So go for it. 681 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 2: I would I would love to be Catwoman. You've got 682 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 2: to lose a few. 683 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,359 Speaker 4: Pounds in a new cat move in Marvel film. 684 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I already got the nails. I actually lived with 685 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 2: four cats, so hey, I'm not too far off. 686 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 4: That's incredible. 687 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: Thank you well, Angela White, thank you so much for 688 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: coming on Casual Chaos. 689 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: Thank you. I love that name too. I love the 690 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 2: name thank. 691 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: You because I just feel like, you know, life can 692 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: be so casually chaotic, you go through the motions, but 693 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: it's also constant chaos twenty like, just. 694 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: Come on, just walk through the fire with me. You 695 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: get to the other side.