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Speaker 2: should be well, Richie, we have done hundreds and hundreds

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Speaker 2: and hundreds and hundreds of shows together, oh yeah, and

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: But today is a unique day.

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Speaker 2: We are faced with something that we have never seen before,

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Speaker 2: at least.

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Speaker 3: In our lifetime.

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Speaker 2: Tropical storm hitting southern California. Now, rich you're in San Diego.

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Speaker 2: I'm up here in Sherman Oaks right now, so you're

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Speaker 2: getting the first of it. Let's get a little update

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Speaker 2: from you. What's happening down there?

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Speaker 4: Uh, not a whole lot, to be perfectly honest with you.

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Speaker 4: Certain areas of San Diego have experienced some heavy rain,

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Speaker 4: but but nothing you know, obviously biblical. It's just sort

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Speaker 4: of seems like a regular rainstorm for now. Uh, there's

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Speaker 4: gonna be some winds we've had. We have a little

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Speaker 4: bit of wind blown in my neck of the woods

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Speaker 4: closer to the beach, and there's an expectation that there

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Speaker 4: could be some downed power lines at some point today

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Speaker 4: with a result of the high winds and tree branches

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Speaker 4: falling and things like that.

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Speaker 1: So we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 4: But I grew up in New York, you know, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: and New York is kind of right at the end

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Speaker 4: of Hurricane Alley. They come out of the Atlantic and

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Speaker 4: they they hit the the Caribbean and and you know,

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Speaker 4: go on their way up through you know, Florida and

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Speaker 4: Georgia and the Carolinas and eventually make their way to

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Speaker 4: Long Island, where I grew up. And you just sort

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Speaker 4: of ride these things out. You buy some batteries, you

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Speaker 4: buy some flashlights. You make sure you have some candles

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Speaker 4: if you have to light them, you know, so you

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Speaker 4: have a little light at night, and buying large you know,

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Speaker 4: unless it's a unless it's a category four when it

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Speaker 4: makes landfall like some of the worst we've seen, especially

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Speaker 4: on the Atlantic coast, like in the nineties Hurricane Andrew

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Speaker 4: that was devastating. There have been many devastating storms in

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Speaker 4: the islands in the Caribbean, and obviously Mexico is gonna

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Speaker 4: get hit a lot harder with Hillary than we did

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Speaker 4: or will. But yeah, you know, I mean, we got

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Speaker 4: a rainstorm going on right now, folks. Yeah, that's what

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, a lot of the people listening out there,

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Speaker 2: you know, saying please welcome to the party. It took

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Speaker 2: so long. I mean, we get this all the time,

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Speaker 2: so we are forging ahead.

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Speaker 3: By the way. One of the big stories.

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Speaker 2: And I was doing television last night, which was you know,

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Speaker 2: told me that, yeah, between maybe about about two o'clock

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Speaker 2: three o'clock this afternoon, and that would be it's ten

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Speaker 2: o'clock on the West coast right now, that's when the

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Speaker 2: real rain will actually show up. And the Chargers and

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Speaker 2: the Saints are scheduled at SOFI Stadium today at four

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Speaker 2: o'clock local time to seven o'clock. I told him about that.

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Speaker 2: He just said, that is just sheer insanity. But there's

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Speaker 2: a reason why. I mean, the Saints and Chargers have

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Speaker 2: practiced together all week. The Saint's been here all week

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Speaker 2: practicing with the Chargers. There really is no reason to

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Speaker 2: play this game.

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Speaker 3: None zero.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a second preseason game. You've had plenty

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Speaker 2: of practice time together. The Saints could have gone home,

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Speaker 2: but they don't want to cancel the game because if

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Speaker 2: he cancel the game, then you have to give out refunds,

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Speaker 2: and they don't want to give out refunds. They don't

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Speaker 2: care if a single Soul shows up Sofi Stadium, And honestly,

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine anybody braving this weather at the height

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Speaker 2: If you don't know about Sofi Stadium, it's an open stadium.

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Speaker 2: It's got a roof, but it's an open stadium, which

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Speaker 2: means that there will be water pouring into that stadium

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Speaker 2: this afternoon. But this just gives you an idea of

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Speaker 2: I don't know, call it greed or whatever.

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Speaker 3: It is, no refunds.

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Speaker 2: Show up at your own risk, whether there's anybody at

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, they'll play that game. And if

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Speaker 4: it gets shut down, it's going to be a league decision,

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Speaker 4: not an ownership decision, correct, Like the Chargers are going

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Speaker 4: to force the league's hand to step in and be

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Speaker 4: the bad guys here, because I'm sure there's some sort

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Speaker 4: in terms of a shutdown and then who's on the

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Speaker 4: hook to pay to pay for those refunds, so the

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Speaker 4: show will go on that showbiz baby. One other thing

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Speaker 4: I'll tag along to that part of the conversation is

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Speaker 4: this Sofi Stadium is subterranean.

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Speaker 1: Sofi Stadium during.

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Speaker 4: Its build in the first place, construction had to be

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Speaker 4: stalled several times because the construction site flooded because there

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Speaker 4: things out, And I'm sure they've put obviously, you know,

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Speaker 4: southern California, you're going to have inspectors out there on

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Speaker 4: But I mean, it's a potential flooding hazard. Very curious

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Speaker 4: some of the most it's seen since it's opened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you've never been to Sofi Stadium, here's how

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Speaker 2: it operates. When you walk in from ground level, you're

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Speaker 2: you see you've never been to Sofi and you just

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Speaker 2: see the pictures of Sofi Stadium, the majority of the

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Speaker 3: Below ground level.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, like you said, if it really gets scary today,

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Speaker 2: it could be a problem. So we'll keep an eye

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Speaker 2: You know, Richie, here we are and by the way,

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Speaker 2: you're off and running with your countdown to kickoff show

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Speaker 2: on Saturdays. We just heard the guys leading in today

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Speaker 2: this here, Richie. I mean, there's a gambling element that

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Speaker 2: is very intriguing to I dare say most NFL fans.

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Speaker 2: I've tried to explain this to people that understand this

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Speaker 2: I follow NFL football, and you were to say to them,

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Speaker 2: all right, so you you identify yourself as an NFL fan,

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Speaker 2: what is your favorite team? I would say over half

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Speaker 2: would say it's my fantasy team. Yeah, that's my favorite team.

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Speaker 2: Or my favorite team is the team i'm betting on

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Speaker 2: that day, either for or against. So there's an overwhelming

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Speaker 2: whether they want to admit it or not. Although their

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Speaker 3: It's that time, in a rather quiet week, Week two of.

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Speaker 2: This endless preseason in the NFL, to start really start

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Speaker 2: making some predictions here. Yeah, And what I would love

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Speaker 2: to break it down as far as division by division

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Speaker 2: a little bit today and play the over unders, you know,

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Speaker 2: as far as guy. I got the latest consensus Vegas

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Speaker 3: You know, the idea if I had tried to.

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Speaker 2: Do a four team parlay a year ago, and I said, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like to do a fourteen parlay, that these four

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Speaker 3: Okay, so a year ago at.

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Speaker 2: This time and I would have thrown out to them Pittsburgh, Jacksonville,

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Speaker 3: So this is the beauty of the NFL, Richie.

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Speaker 2: Every single year, without fail, you will have as many

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Speaker 2: big party here, Rich is just quarterback availability, quarterback development.

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Speaker 2: I mean a year ago, could anybody have predicted that

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's no way to predict it was.

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Speaker 3: That's fun.

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Speaker 4: It was tough to predict in the preseason whether or

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Speaker 4: That was the crowded, you know, horse race that we

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Speaker 4: to be the starting quarterback. Look, I love sports betting

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Speaker 4: from this standpoint. Like you said, if you're an NFL fan,

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Speaker 4: you're watching the games any anyways, if you can then

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Speaker 4: reasonable you know, for entertainment value betting portfolio, it only

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like seeing a.

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Speaker 4: Great action movie like Top Gun Maverick in the theaters

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Speaker 4: it in imax, Like it just makes it that more immersive.

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Speaker 1: You feel a lot more.

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Speaker 4: Attached to it when in you know, whatever the surround

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Speaker 4: makes it a little bit more fun, It makes it

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Speaker 1: It makes it a lot more fun in fact.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I look, if we're gonna go back and

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Speaker 7: All right.

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Speaker 8: Everybody slowed down, Everyone slowed down, but I never came to.

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Speaker 7: A full stop.

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Speaker 3: Very very good, very very good.

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Speaker 8: You know who's also very very good. Julio Rodriguez, the

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Speaker 8: Seattle Mariners.

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Speaker 3: He made history, made.

443
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Speaker 8: History yesterday, recorded his seventeenth hit in four games.

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Speaker 7: Just added hit number eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, So he had four consecutive games

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Speaker 2: he had four hits, five hits, four.

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Speaker 9: Hits for him, four hits last night, correct.

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Speaker 2: So four straight games of at least four hits. And

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Speaker 2: now he has a hit already.

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Speaker 8: Now he has a hit already. He scored the first

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Speaker 8: run for the Mariners. And they're currently beating the Astros

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Speaker 8: at home, I mean home for the Astros, Houston to zero.

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Speaker 7: They're about to start this second inning.

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Speaker 8: A little NFL news, Aaron Rodgers is going to make

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Speaker 8: his Jets debut in next Saturday's preseason finale against the

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Speaker 8: New York Giants, and Tampa Bay Buccaneer's head coach Todd

457
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Speaker 8: Bowles says for them, there's no timetable as to naming

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Speaker 8: a starting quarterback for the twenty twenty three season.

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Speaker 9: They're just gonna see when it feels right.

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Speaker 8: So right now, it is expected that both Baker Mayfield

461
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Speaker 8: and Kyle Trast are gonna play in their final preseason

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Speaker 8: game against the Ravens, also on Saturday. In good news,

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Speaker 8: because last night, during the Patriots and Packers preseason game.

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Speaker 8: New England rookie cornerback Isaiah Bolden was taken to a

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Speaker 8: hospital after an accidental helmet to helmet collision. Looked very scary,

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Speaker 8: but the team announced today that he was released from

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Speaker 8: the hospital.

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Speaker 7: Back with the team.

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Speaker 8: Patriots, we're supposed to want in Tennessee because they were

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Speaker 8: scheduled to have two practices with the Tins ahead of

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Speaker 8: their pre season finale on Friday.

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Speaker 7: Those practices have been canceled.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, all right, Monsey, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: Checking with you a little bit later.

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Speaker 7: On say Fritch, Yeah, stay safe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he's getting it first there in Sanrega.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just outside, So I walked outside on

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Speaker 4: the deck during the break, and I was just looking

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Speaker 4: at areas where you know, like I even overturned a

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Speaker 4: bucket so I could start collecting some of the rain

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Speaker 4: water to see how much. Yeah, we'll collect throughout the

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Speaker 4: course of the show. Here's what I'll say. It's, uh,

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Speaker 4: basically down here, what we're looking at is a heavy

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Speaker 4: rainstorm right now.

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Speaker 1: We're we're not seeing the wind really yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's the eye of the hurricane is still

487
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Speaker 2: well south of San Diego. So what we're getting is

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Speaker 2: that first advanced warning. All right, well, we'll see how

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Speaker 2: of a downwik We're gonna do some helping you out

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Speaker 2: getting ready for the season, which means wagering a few

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Speaker 2: dollars to make the season a little more interesting. Of course,

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Speaker 2: next Saturday, Rich we got Week zero college football highlighted

498
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Speaker 2: by a Notre Dame Navy USC San Jose State. So

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Speaker 2: we'll have some real games to get into next week

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Speaker 2: and then the following week. Of course, all hell breaks

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Speaker 2: lose two weeks from today, as you and I do

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Speaker 2: what we do every single season, bring everybody every second,

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Speaker 2: every snap of every NFL game.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 2: I want to start with the NFC West, and the

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Speaker 2: reason is they have a team in this division, and

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Speaker 2: this is consensus Vegas odds that is two games clear

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Speaker 2: of every other team in the league. As the worst

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Speaker 2: projected team in twenty three, that would be the Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 3: They're over under is four and a half. There is

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Speaker 3: no other.

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Speaker 2: Team with a lower over under than six and a half. Now,

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Speaker 2: let's do a little going back in time. Two years

514
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Speaker 2: ago in twenty twenty one, this team started the season

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Speaker 2: ten and two. They were seven to oh ten and

516
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Speaker 2: two to start the season. Since then, they are five

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Speaker 2: and eighteen, including.

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Speaker 3: Their blowout playoff lost two years ago.

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Speaker 2: Cliff Kingsbury walked the plank and they bring in Jonathan Gannon,

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Speaker 2: of course, was the defensive coordinator for the Eagles. Kyler

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Speaker 2: Murray's first three years were as good as any years

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Speaker 2: we've seen from a young quarterback, considering again, one year

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Speaker 2: starter at Oklahoma offensive Rookie of the Year, followed by

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Speaker 2: back to back Pro Bowl seasons, not an alternate selected

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Speaker 2: as an original Pro Bowl quarterback. And then all hell

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Speaker 2: breaks loose and Kingsbury is gone. They bring the defensive coach.

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Speaker 2: So you look at this number four and a half,

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Speaker 2: That is a really low number. So your gut feeling here,

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Speaker 2: Rich is Arizona because a year ago Seattle was that

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Speaker 2: team everybody thought was the worst team in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: and look what happened to them? Could Arizona's surprise or

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Speaker 2: as are they as bad as advertised?

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Speaker 1: Boy?

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Speaker 4: I believe that the Arizona Cardinals are as bad as advertised.

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Speaker 4: I think that you just mentioned it. The lynchpin to

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Speaker 4: their success over these past three seasons has been Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 4: And now we're going to see Kyler Murray after his

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Speaker 4: first real major injury in his NFL career. So we're

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Speaker 4: we're staking the potentiality of offensive success on a quarterback

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Speaker 4: with a reconstructed knee, which we know, with the advances

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Speaker 4: in modern science and surgical repairs on these ligaments, that

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Speaker 4: he could bounce back and be just as good as

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Speaker 4: he was. But for mobile quarterbacks, especially undersize ones, and

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Speaker 4: what's special about Kyler Murray is those open field shiftiness

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Speaker 4: and the elusiveness that he can get yards where they're

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Speaker 4: not for a lot of other quarterbacks. I have high

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Speaker 4: concern that early in the season the Arizona Cardinals are

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Speaker 4: going to be able to muster a lot. And so

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Speaker 4: if the season starts going sideways early, what is the

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Speaker 4: best recourse for the organization Is it to continue subjecting

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Speaker 4: Kyler Murray game after game after game to more abuse

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Speaker 4: or is it maybe to find an excuse not to

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Speaker 4: start him like what the Las Vegas Raiders did with

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Speaker 4: Derek Carr down the stretch of the season, Because it

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Speaker 4: doesn't it doesn't help you if you win games at

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Speaker 4: the end of a hapless season, it actually hurts you

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Speaker 4: in terms of your rebuild process. So I'm very curious

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Speaker 4: how this season shakes out, especially early on for that

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Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals, I'm not expecting much. Also, remember DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 4: is no longer longer there. I mean, this team is

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Speaker 4: reeling right now, and I think it's a year away

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Speaker 4: from really having firm standing in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Again, I agree with you four and thirteen a year ago.

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Speaker 2: I would play the under if I was going to

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Speaker 2: gambling man on this one, because again, that would put

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Speaker 2: him in a prime position to be in possession of

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Speaker 2: one Caleb Williams as the next quarterback of this team.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Arizona's bad season is going to be worse

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Speaker 2: in my opinion than advertise. So the next team on

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Speaker 2: the list in the nfc wis list, and this number

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Speaker 2: has not changed. This has been holding steady throughout the offseason.

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Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Rams two years removed from winning the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl and the over under is six and a half. Now,

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Speaker 2: I was named dropping last week. I had dinner with Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you know, yeah, yeah, you mean Tyler Higbee.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyler Higbee.

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Speaker 2: I say Tyler because I pause for a second because

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Speaker 2: he was sitting there with Eric Dickerson and I and

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Speaker 2: we were looking at Tyler Higbee about this over under

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Speaker 2: six and a half, or said Tyler six and a half.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me you guys can't win seven games?

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Speaker 3: We asked him.

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Speaker 2: Is Matthew Stafford healthy yes? Is Aaron Donald healthy yes?

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Speaker 2: Is Cooper Cup ready to go?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: So how is it possible if all those key ingredients

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Speaker 2: are healthy, that this team can't get to seven wins?

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Speaker 2: And then you dig a little deeper, rich, and you

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Speaker 2: understand this because of all the sacrifices they made in

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Speaker 2: terms of the salary cap to get all that talent

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Speaker 2: together to win the Super Bowl, and it was mission accomplished.

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Speaker 2: Now they have to pay the price. They have forty

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Speaker 2: rookie Oh yeah, there is zero depth on this team.

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Speaker 2: In other words, any injuries and there's no one there

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Speaker 2: to fill the slot. So can a one platoon football

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Speaker 2: team and that's really what the Rams are facing in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 3: Can they get over six and a half wins?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: So look, riding high on those players you just mentioned

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Speaker 4: who are game changers. You know you're talking about You're

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Speaker 4: talking about one of the greatest receiving performances two years

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Speaker 4: ago that we've ever seen from a receiver in the

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Speaker 4: NFL in Cooper Cup. Yeah, you're talking about a Matthew

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Speaker 4: Stafford who in his first year with the new franchise

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Speaker 4: was able to bring them to a Super Bowl and

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Speaker 4: win it. You're talking about a player who is a

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Speaker 4: walking Hall of Famer in Aaron Donald. I mean, yes,

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Speaker 4: is it possible for them to get over the six

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Speaker 4: and a half mark?

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Speaker 1: Yes it is.

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Speaker 4: But again, similarly to how I was talking about the

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Speaker 4: Arizona Cardinals, if things go sideways quickly, less Need and

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Speaker 4: Sean McVay aren't dummies, like they understand the value of

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Speaker 4: high draft capital because that's what they traded away in

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Speaker 4: order to put together a Super Bowl team to win

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two. So if things are getting real bad,

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Speaker 4: real quick this upcoming season, you can expect the under

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Speaker 4: to hit because it will not benefit LA to have

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Speaker 4: to muster a great season if it's going to affect

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Speaker 4: what they want to do in the rebuild. Now, the

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Speaker 4: other side of it is, they haven't really done very

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Speaker 4: good on some of these mid round draft picks that

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Speaker 4: they've brought in from all these drafts as they were

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Speaker 4: building this super Bowl monster team that they were building

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Speaker 4: through trades. Because while they were trading away all that

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Speaker 4: first round talent or first round draft capital, a lot

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Speaker 4: of those mid round picks did not pan out for them.

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Speaker 4: So they have a young team. They don't have a

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Speaker 4: particularly deep team. The Rams are probably slated appropriately in

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Speaker 4: third place in the NFC West, behind the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 4: and then obviously the forty nine ers, But again, anything

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Speaker 4: can happen when you have superstars. Cooper Cup is a superstar,

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford may be a Hall of Famer, Aaron Donald

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Speaker 4: is definitely a Hall of Famer. So it is highly

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Speaker 4: likely that the Rams if some of these young players,

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Speaker 4: and Tyler Higbee is a big part of this, he

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Speaker 4: may be a building block for the future. Some of

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Speaker 4: these young players for the Rams, they start producing early

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Speaker 4: this season and all of a sudden, oh, maybe the

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Speaker 4: NFC West isn't going to be as easily won as

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Speaker 4: we thought.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you think about it and a year ago,

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Speaker 2: this bears out. And almost every season a bears out.

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Speaker 2: The division winner usually is the team that has the

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Speaker 2: best quarterback in the division. Yeah, and if you look

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Speaker 2: at a healthy Matthew Stafford, he's better than Brock Purty,

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Speaker 2: He's better than Gino Smith, and he's better than Kyle Murray.

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Speaker 3: So keep that in mind. All right.

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Speaker 2: On the other side, Seattle was a shocking team a

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Speaker 2: year ago. Can Gino Smith do it again? And the

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers is brock Purty for real? Keep it

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Speaker 2: redch Ronberger Fox Sports Sunday. We are live from the

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Speaker 2: tay Iraq dot Com studios getting ready for the twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty three NFL season. Two weeks from today, we will

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Speaker 2: be knee deep in games. Of course, the Thursday prior,

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Speaker 2: we'll kick off the season with the Super Bowl champion

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs hosting one of the surprise teams of

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Speaker 2: a year ago, the Detroit Lions. All Right, so, Rich,

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Speaker 2: if you had said at this time a year ago

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Speaker 2: that we would have a playoff game at the end

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty two season between Seattle and San Francisco,

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Speaker 2: and the starting quarterbacks would be Gino Smith and Brock Purty.

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Speaker 3: Yeah a year ago at this time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're got Gino Smith, who most people didn't

667
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Speaker 2: even know that he was still in the league, and

668
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Speaker 2: Rock Perty who was the last player taken in the draft.

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Speaker 3: Those will be the starting quarterbacks in that playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I would have taken that back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, this is how unbelievably unpredictable things

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Speaker 2: are in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: But that's what we had a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Forty nine Ers won that big, big win there, but

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Speaker 2: the fact that even Seattle was in a playoff game

676
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Speaker 2: was nothing short of a miracle. It may have been

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Speaker 2: the greatest coaching job that Pete Carroll has done in

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Speaker 2: his heralded career. So let's start with Seattle. They were

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Speaker 2: a nine to eighteen a year ago that got into

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Speaker 2: the postseason. They're over under is eight and a half.

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Speaker 2: Can Gino Smith do it again? Was in an aberration?

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Speaker 2: Is it something to build on? What is your gut

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Speaker 2: feeling about the Seahawks team?

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Speaker 4: Boy, my gut feeling is a they knew what they

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Speaker 4: were doing with the Russell Wilson trade.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmmmmm.

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Speaker 4: They had that, they had that pretty well figured out,

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Speaker 4: because if you're watching the preseason with Russ, it doesn't

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Speaker 4: look like the concerns or the worries are over for.

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Speaker 1: The Denver Broncos.

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Speaker 4: Now, yes, I'm not saying that the preseason is the

692
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Speaker 4: greatest indication of what's to come in the regular season,

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Speaker 4: but look, we're gonna scrutinize Russell Wilson a lot differently

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Speaker 4: than we will say Patrick Mahomes or Joe Burrow or

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Speaker 4: an Aaron Rodgers, even even though Aaron's coming off of

696
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Speaker 4: a kind of topsy turvy season, slow start, finished better.

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Speaker 4: But we're not gonna give him Russ same level of

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Speaker 4: credit that we're gonna give some of those other names

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Speaker 4: I just mentioned. He's coming off one of the worst

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Speaker 4: seasons we've seen a quarterback of his caliber ever have.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the falloff was dramatic. So going back to

702
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Speaker 4: the Seahawks, like, they had that pretty well figured out

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Speaker 4: and they got some value in that trade. And so

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Speaker 4: when you think about what the Seahawks have now in

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Speaker 4: terms of capital and then the stunning performance of Geno Smith.

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Speaker 1: I mean, even if Geno Smith.

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Speaker 4: Plays close to the level he played last year, he

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Speaker 4: doesn't even have to play quite that well. It really is,

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Speaker 4: it really is easy to see that the Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 4: can contend for this division. And it's for the reason

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Speaker 4: that you just mentioned. Also, the hope right now in

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Speaker 4: San Francisco relies on a last overall draft pick who

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Speaker 4: was an afterthought for the San Francisco forty nine ers

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Speaker 4: when they drafted him. You don't wait until the last

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Speaker 4: pick of the draft to get the quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 4: Like it's almost better for players not to be selected

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Speaker 4: in the seventh round so they can pick an undrafted

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Speaker 4: free agent destination that better suits them. You know. So,

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Speaker 4: if Brock Purdy isn't what we thought he was, or

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Speaker 4: if all the film that now defensive coordinators in the

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Speaker 4: NFL have had an entire offseason to jest and now

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Speaker 4: attack him in specific ways where he's weak, boy, oh boy,

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Speaker 4: it could be a long year for the San Francisco

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Speaker 4: forty nine ers. So I don't think what we've seen

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Speaker 4: from the San Francisco or excuse me, from the Seattle

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Speaker 4: Seahawks is complete, is a complete operation. I think some

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Speaker 4: of that success is repeatable, and I'm very curious to see,

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Speaker 4: especially in concert with how San Francisco looks at quarterback,

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Speaker 4: how they end up shaking out in this division.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm not one hundred percent convinced about Seattle again.

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Speaker 2: One of the keys with Gino Smith was he started

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Speaker 2: all seventeen games. He'll be thirty three in October, and

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Speaker 2: this is a guy who had started a total of

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Speaker 2: five games the previous seven years. It was an unbelievable year.

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Speaker 2: He had the highest completion percentage in the entire league,

736
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Speaker 2: almost seventy percent, thirty touchdowns, eleven picks. If his play

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Speaker 2: does fall off to some degree, then I'm counting a

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Speaker 2: few les wins.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I were to lean in any.

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Speaker 2: Direction on Seattle, I'm not predicting a disastrous year, but

741
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Speaker 2: I think nine to eight was really as good as

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Speaker 2: he could possibly get, especially with the kind of season

743
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Speaker 2: that Gino Smith. If you look at his numbers, they

744
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Speaker 2: probably should have won more games than just nine a

745
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Speaker 2: year ago. Well, coming up on the other side, the

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Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers are a popular pick to

747
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Speaker 2: get to the Super Bowl this year, but it's predicated

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Speaker 2: on Brock Purdy. Can he take it to the next level?

749
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Speaker 2: And what's the future Trey Lance, We got it covered.

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Speaker 2: Hurricane Hillary has hit land on the West coast, something

757
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 2: that has not happened. The last time a tropical storm

758
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: hit the southern California area was nineteen thirty nine. That

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Speaker 2: would be eighty four years ago. So it's been a

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Speaker 2: big national story. We have steady rainfall here in Sherman

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Speaker 2: Oaks right now, very steady, not hard, but a steady rainfall. Sam,

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Speaker 2: you're looking outside, evaluate the situation for us. It's coming down,

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Speaker 2: coming down, It's coming down, rich down in the San

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Speaker 2: Diego area.

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Speaker 3: How's it look?

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Speaker 1: Moderate rain, a little bit of win.

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Speaker 4: Nothing crazy out by me in my little neck of

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Speaker 4: the woods here, but yeah, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean we're getting rain. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we are going to keep you updated on that

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Speaker 2: because it is a big story. Even a bigger storic

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Speaker 2: course is the looming NFL season and what we're doing

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Speaker 2: today as we're taking a little rest. But we could

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Speaker 2: sit there and break down all the week two preseason

775
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Speaker 2: games for you, but that would be stupid. We're going

776
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Speaker 2: to talk about the games that really count and really

777
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 2: started taking a look at this preseason. I was hearing

778
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Speaker 2: Cracker earlier talking about how much money he has down

779
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: on a season before the season even begins, because there

780
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 2: are so many great bats and a big part of

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Speaker 2: it is just trying to predict which team is going

782
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Speaker 2: to be better than advertise and which team is going

783
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Speaker 2: to be worse than advertise. So we're breaking down the

784
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Speaker 2: NFC West. We've talked about Arizona, who talked about the Rams,

785
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Speaker 2: We talked about the Seahawks. By the way, all three

786
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Speaker 2: of those teams over unders say they'll have losing seasons

787
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Speaker 2: this year, which really separates the forty nine ers from

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Speaker 2: the pack. If Rock Purty can follow up where he

789
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Speaker 2: left off a year ago. Now, Rich, when I talk

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Speaker 2: about quarterbacks, I always tell people this, to be a

791
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Speaker 2: successful quarterback a better than average quarterback, two things are necessary.

792
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Speaker 2: But then I thought about it, and really it's three things. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So the two things that you have to have is

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Speaker 2: accuracy and the ability to make instantaneous decisions on the field.

795
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Speaker 2: So the brain's got to work in sync with what's

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Speaker 2: happening on the field. So you have to recognize defenses,

797
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Speaker 2: make those split second decisions on what to do with

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Speaker 2: the football, and then when you throw the football, you

799
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Speaker 2: need to be accurate.

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Speaker 3: And then there's one more thing.

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Speaker 2: And I was reminded of this with the sudden success

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Speaker 2: of Rock Purdy. To be a great quarterback, a great quarterback,

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Speaker 2: the moment can't be too big. You've got to be

804
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: able to show that you can do the things I

805
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Speaker 2: just talk about. Throw accurately, make quick decisions on the

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Speaker 2: field when the spotlight is brightest ye. And what we

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Speaker 2: found out from Brock Purty is he's capable of doing that.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about Brock party for a second. He's

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Speaker 2: back right now. They are fully confident that he is

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Speaker 2: ready to roll coming off the injury suffered in the

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Speaker 2: NFC Championship game. This was guy who was a four

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Speaker 2: year starter at Iowa State. He's not the most athletic guy,

813
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Speaker 2: but he does seem to be a perfect fit in

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Speaker 2: this Kyle Shanahan offense. Did we see an aberration a

815
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Speaker 2: year ago or is he the real deal?

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Speaker 4: Look, he stepped in and was given a Ferrari to

817
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Speaker 4: drive around with all the help he had around that

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Speaker 4: offense and.

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Speaker 1: That he was tasked with.

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Speaker 4: Hey, just don't let this crash right now, I will

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Speaker 4: I will say the one thing I'm most impressed with

822
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Speaker 4: is the fact that the moment didn't seem too big

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Speaker 4: for him, that he could could perform in the circumstances

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Speaker 4: he was asked to perform in. And I do actually

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Speaker 4: credit a lot of that not only to him, but

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Speaker 4: also to the amount of time that he's played, you know,

827
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Speaker 4: high level Division one, Power five conference football over the

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Speaker 4: course of his career at Iowa State. The guy has

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Speaker 4: played in big games. He has shined in been games.

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Speaker 4: He knows what that feels like, Which brings you to

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Speaker 4: Trey Lance, who on the other side of that coin,

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Speaker 4: he really hadn't you know, an FCS quarterback who barely

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Speaker 4: played college football. He comes to the NFL and it

834
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Speaker 4: all looks too big for him. It doesn't look too

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Speaker 4: big for Brock Purty.

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Speaker 1: But here's the deal.

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Speaker 4: When you think about what else the quarterback needs, he

838
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Speaker 4: needs to be able to win a game on his

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Speaker 4: own merit like that, I would include, you know, when

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Speaker 4: we're talking about what separates like say the second and

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Speaker 4: the third tier from the very top tier in the NFL,

842
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Speaker 4: like the guys who are capable of winning Super Bowls,

843
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Speaker 4: it's being able to put a team on your back.

844
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Speaker 4: Like when everything was going wrong in the Super Bowl

845
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Speaker 4: for the Philadelphia Eagles, Jalen Hurts rose to the occasion.

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Speaker 4: You'll get the performance that Jalen Hurts put together against

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Speaker 4: the Kansas City Chiefs.

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Speaker 1: Holy smokes, I mean.

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Speaker 4: A couple of breaks go the Eagles way they win

850
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Speaker 4: that football game. Let's be very clear. Now, he did

851
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Speaker 4: have a fumble. It was detrimental to the team's success.

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Speaker 4: I understand that. But Jalen Hurts is a real deal

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Speaker 4: NFL quarterback who I would say a Super Bowl is

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Speaker 4: in his near future. Brock Purdy, Are my socks blown

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Speaker 4: off by Brock Purty?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 4: Do I look at him in the same reverence as

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Speaker 4: a Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not as even a Justin.

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Speaker 4: Herbert, No, Patrick Mahomes, Trevor Lawrence certainly not. Jalen hurts, No,

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Speaker 4: you know he is. His ceiling in the NFL is

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Speaker 4: probably about where Jimmy garoppolo ceiling has been, which is

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Speaker 4: a very talented game manager, a guy who you can

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Speaker 4: rely on to not screw it up for you.

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Speaker 1: But if you're asking him like.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, Brock, we need a big play to win

867
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Speaker 4: us this game, he's not that guy.

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Speaker 1: He's just not that guy.

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Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting, and I agree with you on that

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Speaker 3: on that point. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I want to get back to the Trey Lance situation.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday Adam Kaplan joined us and I asked him

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Speaker 2: about any kind of market value for Trey Lance?

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Speaker 3: What's next for Trey Lance?

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Speaker 2: And he says, you know, when you really think about it,

876
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: because Kyle Shanahan made that final call.

877
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 3: Let's make that perfectly clear.

878
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan made that call because remember they were also contemplating.

879
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 3: Mac Jones in the draft.

880
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: He wanted someone because he had Jimmy Garoppolo, who he

881
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 2: felt had limitations on how far he could take his offense.

882
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:49,360
Speaker 2: But in a lot of respects, maybe he's overestimating his offense.

883
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: In other words, his offense when you got the skilled

884
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 2: players that the forty.

885
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 3: Nine Ers have right now.

886
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: You just need someone that can execute the plays for

887
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 2: it to work. And that's why Jimmy Garoppolo was the

888
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: perfect quarterback on that offense. Remember the thing about Garoppolo

889
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 2: was we'd see the one lost record when he was

890
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 2: the quarterback, and then when he was injured, which was often,

891
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: the record was almost reversed completely. So Garoppolo was the

892
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: perfect quarterback on that offense. He just couldn't stay on

893
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 2: the field. And as it turns out, brock Perty is

894
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 2: that same type of quarterback. He can execute the play.

895
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 2: I agree with you. He's not the guy that's gonna,

896
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: you know, play outside the box and do spectacular things

897
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 2: like a Patrick Mahomes can to somehow carry a team

898
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 2: to a win. But you don't need that with this

899
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 2: forty nine Ers team. That's how good their offensive talent is.

900
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 2: As far as Trey Lance is concerned, I mean, he

901
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: was a project from day one, and this is not

902
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,240
Speaker 2: an offense where you need a project quarterback. Just watching

903
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: him the other day in that first preseason game, he's

904
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: getting sacked by the Raiders all over the field.

905
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Which taking other way, I have a little bit of

906
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: a theory about that.

907
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, after thinking about it and watching every

908
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 4: play that Trey Lance had during the course of that game.

909
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 4: The preseason is about working on things. What would Trey

910
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 4: Lance need to work on the most? Well, obviously his

911
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: passing game. We know he's a big enough and a

912
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: strong enough and a fast enough athlete to you know,

913
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,640
Speaker 4: carry the football and to create outside the pocket. But

914
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,879
Speaker 4: they wanted him to work on throwing the ball from

915
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 4: inside the pocket.

916
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 1: Just look, and it.

917
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 2: Didn't look good, no, because he couldn't recognize what he

918
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 2: needed to do. That's that instantaneous recognition to get rid

919
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 2: of the ball, do what you have to do with

920
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: the ball, right.

921
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 4: But if you were scripting a play call or i

922
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 4: should say, a call sheet for a quarterback of Trey

923
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 4: Lance's caliber and you wanted him to have success, it

924
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 4: would look nothing and I mean nothing like the game

925
00:49:56,719 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 4: plan that the forty nine ers gave Trey Lance. So

926
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: my thought process is this, the forty nine Ers don't

927
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 4: want Trey Lance to be their starting quarterback and they

928
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 4: don't want the fans to think that he's better than

929
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 4: brock Party because at practice they know that Trey Lance

930
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 4: is more limited. So they weren't going to dial up

931
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 4: plays where Trey Lance could run the ball twenty five

932
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,760
Speaker 4: yards on an explosive run on a zone read play,

933
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 4: or you know, connect on a short screen pass and

934
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 4: you know, maybe dial up a trick play like you

935
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 4: would during the regular season if he was your only option,

936
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 4: because guess what, they don't want him going out there

937
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 4: and being their starting quarterback week one because they saw

938
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: an eight game.

939
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: Run from brock Party. And while that's a small sample.

940
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,800
Speaker 4: Size, he's the best they got right now because Sam Darnald,

941
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: even though he has all.

942
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: The tools to be a great starting quarterback in the NFL,

943
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 1: he just can't. He can't protect the football. He just can't.

944
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 4: You know, that's been his achilles heel. And he hasn't

945
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: been able to stay healthy recently either. So when you

946
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 4: have your two best options being somewhat fragile and Donald

947
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 4: and Purty, and Purty has already played basically a half

948
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 4: a season's worth of games in your offense, that's the guy.

949
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 4: It isn't Trey Lance. That ship has sailed. And by

950
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 4: the way, John Lynch, they're not lucky because they are

951
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 4: talented team builders and culture builders and and they've put together,

952
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 4: you know NFC championship teams and teams that are worthy

953
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,240
Speaker 4: of going to the Super Bowl since drafting Trey Lance.

954
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: But my goodness, normally, when you make a mistake like

955
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 4: Trey Lance, when you draft a player who's barely played

956
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 4: since his draft selection at the tippy top of the

957
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 4: draft and you trade away that much draft capital, normally

958
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 4: you get fired. But they have done such a good

959
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 4: job in other spots, you know, spots of great need,

960
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 4: including drafting Rock Purdy, who stepped in and saved the day.

961
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 4: My goodness, they saved their jobs with that. So I

962
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,879
Speaker 4: think in part they feel debted to indebted to Brock

963
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 4: Purty because if it weren't for him, Kyle Shan and

964
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 4: John Lynch, they could have been in big trouble at

965
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 4: the end of the last season.

966
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,360
Speaker 2: I would say this about the over unders ten and

967
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 2: a half for the forty nine ers, it seems low

968
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 2: to me, especially when you look at the rest of

969
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 2: this division, Arizona Offal, the Rams, huge question marks. Seattle

970
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 2: to me is a question mark. Can they repeat what

971
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 2: they did a year ago? Why is that number not higher? Well,

972
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 2: that's really because of brock Party And I agree with you.

973
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 2: If brock Purtty goes down with injury. Are they gonna

974
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: call Philip Rivers? I don't know what their game plan

975
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 2: is because it doesn't look like it's Trey Lance. He

976
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 2: has no market. I don't know what to get for Lance.

977
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: I wouldn't give up anything for Trey Lance if I

978
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 2: were another team, and then Sam.

979
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 3: Darnold, I don't know.

980
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they picked them up for a reason. But

981
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 2: that's the only thing that's holding me back from saying

982
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 2: this is an easy over for me.

983
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

984
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 2: I look at the forty nine ers as a team

985
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 2: that should win twelve thirteen games with the talent they

986
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 2: have on both sides of the football, So ten and

987
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 2: a half seems a little load to me.

988
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: All right.

989
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,200
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we're gonna go rifling

990
00:53:06,239 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 2: through some of these divisions. Another interesting division because we

991
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 2: talked a lot about quarterbacks on the NFC West. When

992
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: I look at the AFC West, it's about the coaches.

993
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: We'll tell you why this is Fox Sports Sunday. Steve

994
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: Harbin and Rich Ormberger here on Fox Sports Sunday. Well

995
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: football fans, the return of our popular Saturday and Sunday

996
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: pregame shows. Countdown to Kickoff, presented by BETMGM, returned this weekend. Now,

997
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 2: be sure to tune in Fox Sports Radio every Saturday

998
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 2: and Sunday morning, three hours before kickoff. From now all

999
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:47,360
Speaker 2: the way through Super Bowl Sunday. On Saturdays, Brian No,

1000
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 2: former Penn State All American, Rich Ornberger and betting analyst

1001
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: Jared Smith will walk you right up to the college

1002
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 2: football kickoffs. And on the NFL Sundays, Brian No, eight

1003
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: year NFL veteran Jeff Schwartz, and professional vetter Bill krack

1004
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,800
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1005
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 2: You can listen to Countdown to Kickoff weekend mornings right

1006
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio on the iHeartRadio app. And

1007
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 2: you've taken that show on the road many times, Rich.

1008
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we went to the bau Rivage down in Mississippi.

1009
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 4: We've we've been to the Great American Ballpark in Cincinnati.

1010
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,439
Speaker 4: They have an awesome sports book there. Bet MGM has

1011
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 4: sports books in both of those locations. So yeah, this

1012
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: upcoming season, we're expecting some late fall visits, some live remotes,

1013
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 4: maybe at a sports book near you, So be on

1014
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,719
Speaker 4: the lookout for those. We're going to be promoting those

1015
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 4: coming up later on in the football season. But yeah,

1016
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 4: countdown to Kickoff on Saturdays and Sundays is really a

1017
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 4: tailgate party where we talk a lot of football and

1018
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 4: then we sprinkle in some betting advice.

1019
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1020
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 2: And of course, starting two weeks from today, our first

1021
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 2: full NFL Sunday, and of course we here will continue

1022
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 2: our programming, which, by the way, I was laughing with Monsei.

1023
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 2: Remember Monsey last season was her first season, full season,

1024
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:23,280
Speaker 2: and that very first week one oh yeah, ten games

1025
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,560
Speaker 2: kicking off simultaneously, her head was spinning.

1026
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:26,840
Speaker 1: You know.

1027
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:28,799
Speaker 3: She started saying, how do we do this?

1028
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 2: I said, you know, one step at a time, one

1029
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 2: score at a time. But we cannot wait, cannot wait

1030
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: for the start of this nfl A season. By the way,

1031
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 2: we are live from the ti iraq dot com studio,

1032
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: So I want to get back here. We were talking

1033
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: about the NFC West. I want to look at the

1034
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: AFC West and what's most intriguing to me about this

1035
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:53,240
Speaker 2: division heading into twenty twenty three are the coaches. Yeah,

1036
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: so you have Anny Reid, who has now fully stamped

1037
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 2: his ticket to the Pro Football Hall of Fame with

1038
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: his second Super Bowl win. He's on the top of

1039
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: them out right now as far as coaches in this league.

1040
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: And then, of course you've got Josh McDaniels, who earned

1041
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 2: a lot of Super Bowl rings with the New England

1042
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: Patriots as an offensive coordinator but has yet to prove

1043
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 2: himself a winner as a head coach in the NFL.

1044
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 2: Then you have Sean Payton, who suddenly is back in

1045
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,719
Speaker 2: the NFL. Can he rectify the situation we saw the

1046
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 2: disaster in Denver a year ago? And then he had

1047
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,359
Speaker 2: Brandon Staley, who I talked almost everybody out there. Let's

1048
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: put it this way, the jury's still out on whether

1049
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,959
Speaker 2: or not this guy has what it takes to take

1050
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 2: the Chargers to the next level. So I want to

1051
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: start with the Chargers right now. They have an over

1052
00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 2: under of nine and a half wins. They made the

1053
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 2: playoffs a year ago. They've had a winning record both

1054
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 2: years that Staley has been the head coach. But that

1055
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: also is what his predecessors had. Mike McCoy had two

1056
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 2: winning seasons in his first year as a coach. These

1057
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 2: are the Tom til Let's go highers followed that up

1058
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 2: with two losing seasons and he was gone. Same story

1059
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 2: for Anthony Lynn. Two winning seasons followed by two losing

1060
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: seasons and he is gone. And by the way, remember

1061
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 2: there's been a consistency a quarterback for these Chargers from

1062
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: Philip Rivers all the way to the emergence.

1063
00:57:18,560 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: Of Justin Herbert.

1064
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 2: So when you look at that nine and a half number,

1065
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: that tells you the most people believe the Chargers will

1066
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 2: be firmly entrenched in the playoff picture in twenty twenty three.

1067
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 2: Do you see anything that would prevent the Chargers from

1068
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 2: getting back into the playoffs this season?

1069
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, injury.

1070
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,840
Speaker 4: Look outside of injury, I think this is a postseason roster.

1071
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, every single preseason we say the

1072
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 4: same things about the Los Angeles Chargers. Oh man, on paper,

1073
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 4: this team could be a Super Bowl contender, and then

1074
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 4: they get out to the field and they seem to

1075
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 4: get bit by the injury bug every single season.

1076
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: And it's not just.

1077
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, they're down a second string running back and

1078
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,960
Speaker 4: one of their you know, lesser known linebackers has an ACLT. No,

1079
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 4: it's like they're gonna be missing a key player for

1080
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 4: the rest of the season, you know, with a neck

1081
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 4: or a knee or an Achilles, or they're missing a

1082
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 4: key player for huge chunk of the regular season or

1083
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 4: into the postseason. I mean, it happens every single year

1084
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: to the Chargers. So yeah, I'll say the same thing

1085
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,400
Speaker 4: that I say about the Chargers every single preseason, every

1086
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 4: single preseason. This team will go as far as their

1087
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 4: durability takes them, because I think it's a talented enough roster.

1088
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 4: I think Justin Herbert is a special quarterback with a

1089
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 4: special makeup. This guy hasn't had consistency had offensive coordinators

1090
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Speaker 4: since he was in high school. You go back through

1091
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 4: his Oregon days, it was just a mixed bag of

1092
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 4: head coaches and offensive coordinators and it's basically been the

1093
00:58:57,400 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 4: same thing since he's been to the NFL. Now on

1094
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 4: to his second offensive coordinator, starting his fourth season in

1095
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 4: the NFL. I mean, so he's used to that. I

1096
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 4: have no concerns about him or this offense. I actually

1097
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:13,320
Speaker 4: think cal Moore is a pretty talented offensive coordinator, and

1098
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: he's obviously very hyper focused on the passing game and

1099
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:21,120
Speaker 4: stretching the field, and Justin Herbert has a big enough

1100
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,800
Speaker 4: arm to do that. But I will say one thing

1101
00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 4: about this team that's unique this year compared to last year.

1102
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:30,280
Speaker 4: I do think that postseason outcomes are going to have

1103
00:59:30,320 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 4: a huge effect on who's the head coach next season.

1104
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 4: I think patience is waning with Brandon Stally the same

1105
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 4: way that patient began to wane with Mike McCoy, and

1106
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 4: it did so with Anthony Lynn, who was the predecessor

1107
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 4: to Brandon Stally. Eventually, everybody, not just you know, the players,

1108
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,040
Speaker 4: but the other coaches, the staff around the team, the

1109
00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 4: fan base gets tired of saying, Hey, this team's great

1110
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,840
Speaker 4: on paper, but they just can't get to the postseason,

1111
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 4: or this team's great on paper, but they just can't

1112
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 4: win in the postseason. Like, you gotta win in the postseason,

1113
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 4: especially when you have a quarterback like Justin Herbert who's

1114
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:11,240
Speaker 4: on his rookie deal.

1115
01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: He's still on his rookie deal. This is the window.

1116
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 4: So if you don't make some waves, if you don't

1117
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 4: get to an AFC Championship game with Justin Herbert this

1118
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 4: season or next, you've wasted a huge opportunity to make

1119
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:30,480
Speaker 4: a deep run with a super talented quarterback.

1120
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Speaker 1: And that's going to be on the head coach ultimately.

1121
01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at their schedule, rich last year they

1122
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 2: won ten games, but it was a little bit of

1123
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 2: an aberration. They won the games they were supposed to win,

1124
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 2: which is good. They just didn't beat a lot of

1125
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: winning teams last year. And you look at their schedule

1126
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 2: this year. First of all, when we talk about home field,

1127
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 2: it's usually a big advantage for a team, it's not

1128
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 2: for the Chargers. If you've been to any Charger game

1129
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 2: at SOFI Stadium, you will see a lot more of

1130
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,520
Speaker 2: the opposing teams fans than you will Chargers fans. Every

1131
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 2: game I've been to, that's been the case. And you

1132
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 2: look at some of their home games this year they've

1133
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: got to play. First of all, they open up with

1134
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: Miami at home. That's sort of a wild card game, right,

1135
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:16,280
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Miami's going cross country, but that's a

1136
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: pretty good Dolphins team. But they have Dallas at home,

1137
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,880
Speaker 2: they have Detroit at home. They got the Ravens at home,

1138
01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 2: they got the Bills at home. Those are the home

1139
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: games outside of their division. It's a tough road. It's

1140
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: going to be a very tough road. So you know,

1141
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 2: over under nine and a half, I think i'd fly

1142
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 2: clear of that. I think this team is way too

1143
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 2: unpredictable going into this new season. All Right, we're going

1144
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: to get back to some of the other teams in

1145
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 2: the AFC West. What kind of impact is Sean Payton

1146
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:51,320
Speaker 2: going to have on the Denver Broncos. But first let's

1147
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 2: find out what is trending as a Monsey two weeks

1148
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: away Monter, what kind of prep do you do once

1149
01:01:58,040 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 2: we get into week one the NFL season.

1150
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,959
Speaker 9: On this show, a lot of praying and self meditating

1151
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 9: and keeping a calm head.

1152
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 3: It's like they're training ball and everything else.

1153
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 8: Totally well, and it's to just keep a calm, steady ahead.

1154
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 9: When stead when chaotic starts to hit, you know what

1155
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:19,360
Speaker 9: I mean.

1156
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 3: One last year, a little over the first half hour

1157
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:22,600
Speaker 3: I think of the show.

1158
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no, no, yes.

1159
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 2: Because you're like, I could sit here and literally do

1160
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: an update as long as the rest of the show.

1161
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 3: Every update.

1162
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 7: Yes, I literally was like, what how?

1163
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 10: What?

1164
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: When?

1165
01:02:34,720 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 5: No?

1166
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 8: I can't do this, But we got through it, got

1167
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 8: through the season, getting ready for the next one.

1168
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,240
Speaker 7: Very exciting.

1169
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 8: But these are not going well here, guys, I have

1170
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 8: no signal on any of my TVs, so I can't

1171
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 8: watch any of these baseball games.

1172
01:02:47,840 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 2: Yes, direct TV here Rich is out completely. We have

1173
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: no televisions here. We can't see it. Well, we have

1174
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: the Weather channel on a couple of things.

1175
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: We have nothing.

1176
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: No, that's not a power issue. That's like satellite reception issues.

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01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's just great.

1178
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 7: Great. I was watching the Braves game and it's gone.

1179
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 8: The Brains were in the lead when I was watching,

1180
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 8: but the Giants have just taken the lead.

1181
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 7: Wilmer Flores with the two run homer in the third inning.

1182
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 8: So San Francisco go up against Atlanta three to two,

1183
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 8: top of the third inning.

1184
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 7: The Yankees have lost seven in a row.

1185
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that?

1186
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: I mean?

1187
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 2: We talked about the three highest am I right, the

1188
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,920
Speaker 2: three highest payrolls were the Mets, the Yankees, and the

1189
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 2: Pod Ring. Yep, all disasters, disasters, none of them will

1190
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.

1191
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Speaker 7: Seventy in a row.

1192
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Speaker 8: They did just tie the game at home against the

1193
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Speaker 8: Red Sox. It's one to one, bottom of the third inning.

1194
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 8: The Astros have responded with five runs in the third

1195
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 8: inning to cut the Mariners lead to just one. It's

1196
01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 8: six to five bottom of the fourth inning. Julio Rodriguez

1197
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,480
Speaker 8: has not had another hit, so he still had eighteen

1198
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 8: in five games, which is still ridiculous. Tigers holding on

1199
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Speaker 8: to their lead over the Guardians two zero, bottom of

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01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 8: the fourth inning. The Reds are on the scoreboard, but

1201
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 8: Blue Jay's still up five to two bottom of the third,

1202
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 8: and the Royals have scored first against the Cubs in Chicago,

1203
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 8: won zero bottom of the first inning. And in NFL news,

1204
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers is gonna make his Jet's debut next Saturday

1205
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 8: in their preseason finale against the New York Giants and

1206
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 8: the final round at the BMW Championship. Officially, everybody underway.

1207
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 8: Scotti Scheffler still in the lead at thirteen under par.

1208
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,959
Speaker 8: Matt Fitzpatrick one shot back back to you guys, all.

1209
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 2: Right, MONSI, thank you very much. We're talking about the

1210
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 2: AFC West right now. What are the best bets as

1211
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:37,480
Speaker 2: far as over under on wins in this division? Turning

1212
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 2: to the Denver Broncos, what kind of impact will Sean

1213
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: Payton have? Well, according to Vegas, a lot. This is

1214
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 2: a team that was five and twelve last year and

1215
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: they're over under is eight and a half. Yeah, think

1216
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: about that for a second. So a five and twelve

1217
01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: team a year ago, Sean Payton gets hired. The rest

1218
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: of the team looks about the same, and he's worth

1219
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 2: that much more for this team eight and a half wins.

1220
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: Here's my feeling about Sean Payne quickly, obviously, I want

1221
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: to get all of your input on this. Rich My

1222
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 2: feeling on Sean Payton is he signed a deal with

1223
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos that gives him as much control, if

1224
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 2: not more control, than any other coach has over a

1225
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:27,000
Speaker 2: team in this league. Otherwise he wouldn't have signed on.

1226
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 2: You have the Walton family, now richest family in America

1227
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: in ownership, and the deal that I feel they gave

1228
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 2: Sean Paige. We never know the actual deals, but the

1229
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 2: deal they gave him required total control. And so when

1230
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 2: you have a coach that has that kind of security

1231
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 2: and a job, nothing sacred. And I look back to

1232
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,920
Speaker 2: that first preseason game, watching Russell Wilson run out in

1233
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 2: the field for four series in a first preseason game.

1234
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 2: You just don't see that. But I think that Sean

1235
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,240
Speaker 2: Payton is making this infinitely clear to Russell Wilson in

1236
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 2: the outside world. I'm gonna give you a chance to

1237
01:06:10,080 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 2: prove to me you can run my offense. If you

1238
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 2: can't you're gonna hit the bench, you got to prove

1239
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 2: it to me. I don't think that he is. He'll

1240
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: be married to Russell Wilson if he executed. But if

1241
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 2: we see a repeat of what we saw a year

1242
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: ago from Russell Wilson, he's not long for this job,

1243
01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 2: they will move on. This is the kind of security

1244
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,840
Speaker 2: they have. I think Denver is in for a rough

1245
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 2: ride year one with Sean Payton because I think there's

1246
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 2: gonna be a feeling out process here. I do not

1247
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,919
Speaker 2: believe that Russell Wilson's gonna have a huge rebound year

1248
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: under Sean Payton. I think he's gonna give him every opportunity.

1249
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's the same quarterback. And if

1250
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 2: he's not, I don't see how the Broncos are flirting

1251
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 2: with a five hundred season.

1252
01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, well look, part of this is you got

1253
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 4: you gotta think about Russell Wilson working with a tenured

1254
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:12,720
Speaker 4: head coach. Right. There was so much instability in Denver

1255
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 4: last year. I don't necessarily want to say this is

1256
01:07:15,680 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 4: the Sean Payton effect, that he's worth so many more games,

1257
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 4: you know, to the Denver Broncos win total. I think

1258
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 4: this is the Nathaniel Hackett impact. Like Nathaniel Hackett was

1259
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 4: such a train wreck as a head coach that that

1260
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 4: team underperformed so significantly last year that that if Sean

1261
01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 4: Payton was there last year, you could have you could

1262
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 4: have arguably seen that team being close to a five

1263
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 4: hundred team. They wouldn't have been great, they wouldn't have

1264
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 4: been world beaters, they wouldn't have been in the postseason,

1265
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 4: but they would have been better than they were because

1266
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 4: Sean Payton at least has a steady hand at the tiller.

1267
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: Nathaniel Hackett was a disaster.

1268
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 1: Now.

1269
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 4: Is he a good offensive coordinator by all measure? Yes,

1270
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 4: he just could not do both jobs at once and

1271
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 4: that was proven earlier in the season in Denver. And

1272
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 4: then he relinquished control of the offense. He relinquished control

1273
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 4: of you know, shoot the play clock. I mean he

1274
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 4: had somebody helping him make sure to keep his eye

1275
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 4: on the clock and decision making in terms of going

1276
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,719
Speaker 4: for it on fourth down or to kick the field

1277
01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 4: goal or to punt. I mean, it was just a

1278
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 4: disaster from a logistical standpoint. So Sean Payton comes in

1279
01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 4: steadies this ship. I could see this team being a

1280
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 4: five hundred or just under five hundred football team this

1281
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:33,800
Speaker 4: upcoming season. I could easily see that now if there

1282
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 4: is no improvement from Russell Wilson. I do think that

1283
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 4: time's up because if Sean Payton is not going to

1284
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 4: stake the lasting legacy of his career on a quarterback

1285
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 4: who has appeared to forgotten how to play the position.

1286
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:55,599
Speaker 4: If again, if he repeats some of the same issues

1287
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:59,360
Speaker 4: that he showcased last year. But I think we're going

1288
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 4: we're getting way ahead of ourselves to assume that it's

1289
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 4: gonna look it's gonna look like that in year two

1290
01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 4: in Denver. I can't imagine. I can't imagine a world

1291
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 4: where Russ looks as bad as he did last year.

1292
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 4: I I just can't imagine it.

1293
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm going under on that one.

1294
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 2: That number to me is, you know, if it was

1295
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 2: seven and a half, eight and a half for a

1296
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 2: team that was five win team, all right, I want

1297
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 2: to get to the Raiders quickly here.

1298
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1299
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 2: So, Josh McDaniels, in his last thirty nine games as

1300
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 2: a head coach in the NFL, has a record of

1301
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: eleven and twenty eight. This is let that soak in

1302
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: for a second here in his last thirty nine games

1303
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Speaker 2: as a head coach in the NFL, his record in

1304
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Speaker 2: Denver and last year with the Raiders is eleven and

1305
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: twenty eight. He took over a team that made the

1306
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:49,640
Speaker 2: playoffs the year before, and they go six and eleven.

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01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 2: This despite the fact that Josh Jacobs emerged as the

1308
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:56,240
Speaker 2: league's leading rusher and Devonte Adams numbers were as good,

1309
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 2: if not better than what he did in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 2: Now he's going to have a fragile quarterback in Jimmy Garoppolo.

1312
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Speaker 2: There's a lot of new faces. The over runner on

1313
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Speaker 2: the Raiders puts them squarely at the bottom of the

1314
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Speaker 2: AFC West six and a half. Mentioned in the course

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Speaker 2: that you know, Denver's at eight and a half, Chargers

1316
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 2: at nine and a half.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to the Chiefs in the moment.

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Speaker 2: The Raiders are the worst team in this division and

1319
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 2: they have a coach that has yet to prove that

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Speaker 2: he can win as a head coach. And this is

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Speaker 2: someone you know personally. Yeah, so should we expect? I mean,

1322
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 2: we still don't even know that Josh Jacobs situation hasn't

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Speaker 2: yet played out.

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Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure why they're playing this out. Remember

1325
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Speaker 3: this about Josh Jacobs.

1326
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Speaker 2: He gained over sixteen hundred yards rushing a year ago,

1327
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Speaker 2: which was tops in the NFL. The second leading running

1328
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 2: back rusher for the Raiders last year had sixty six

1329
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:56,679
Speaker 2: yards rushing for the season. Yeah, I mean, that's all

1330
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Speaker 2: they had with their running game. You get rid of

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs, say bye bye, you renege on that franchise

1332
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 2: tag with Jimmy Garoppolo.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hang on, hang on, though.

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 3: Where where's the where's the silver lining here?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So listen Josh Jacobs unless and I don't I

1336
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:18,280
Speaker 4: don't mean to sound like, look, I want him to

1337
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:21,559
Speaker 4: chase every single dollar he thinks he is worth. But

1338
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,120
Speaker 4: unless he's foolish, he's going to play on this franchise tag.

1339
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 4: He's just going to because you just saw Dalvin Cook

1340
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 4: sign for an incentive laden eight million dollar contract and

1341
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 4: he was what the second or the third best running

1342
01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 4: back in the league. He was way up the board.

1343
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 4: He's been tremendous over the past three season with the

1344
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 4: with the Minnesota Vikings. You look at Zeke Elliott, who

1345
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:47,080
Speaker 4: again not in the same category as a Josh Jacobs

1346
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 4: right now, but zeke quality, you know, short yardage running back,

1347
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 4: a guy who may have a higher upside on the

1348
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 4: right contract, and New England signed the right contract because

1349
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 4: it's an incentive late in six.

1350
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: Million dollar contract.

1351
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 4: So he has a tag where he's going to earn

1352
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 4: set to earn over ten million dollars this upcoming NFL season.

1353
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 4: Is there a team in the NFL that would offer

1354
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,640
Speaker 4: him a ten million dollar contract this upcoming season? The

1355
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 4: answer is no, Nobody is paying running backs like that.

1356
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: They're just not. The best you could do is match it.

1357
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 4: And if you're you're principled enough, maybe maybe you hold

1358
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:30,880
Speaker 4: out in hopes that you know they'll release you. I guess,

1359
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 4: but I think it would be cutting your nose off

1360
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 4: to spite your face, because then you test free agency

1361
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,400
Speaker 4: and maybe it goes really sour for you, really fast.

1362
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,920
Speaker 4: So in my opinion, the Josh Jacobs thing is a

1363
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 4: red herring. I think he plays this season. I don't

1364
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 4: think he's gonna be happy, but I think he's gonna

1365
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 4: play his tailoff because he wants to get out of

1366
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,440
Speaker 4: there after this season, and he's gonna make every effort

1367
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:56,920
Speaker 4: he possibly can to escape Las Vegas without getting tagged.

1368
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 4: A second time. Okay, So that situation I think will

1369
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 4: resolve itself. Jimmy Groppolo is a huge question mark due

1370
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,000
Speaker 4: to his health and his durability. He had the foot

1371
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 4: surgery in the preseason. He appears to be fine now.

1372
01:13:09,800 --> 01:13:12,680
Speaker 4: Jimmy Garoppolo, if he stays durable, is a winner. And

1373
01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 4: he's played with Josh McDaniels, and he's got a lot

1374
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 4: of former teammates around him in Las Vegas, and he's

1375
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,519
Speaker 4: got some talent on this roster. Devonte Adams is a

1376
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:26,200
Speaker 4: devastating receiver. So can the Raiders be a better than

1377
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 4: advertised football team this year?

1378
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 5: Well?

1379
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're gonna go as far as their defense.

1380
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: Let's them.

1381
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,120
Speaker 4: Their defense was an out loud, screaming disaster in some

1382
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 4: of these games, especially in the second half, melting down

1383
01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 4: and giving away leads. So I'm gonna say this. They

1384
01:13:41,280 --> 01:13:44,800
Speaker 4: didn't have a strong offseason. You know, I don't see

1385
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:48,000
Speaker 4: them replacing the production of a Darren Waller, for example,

1386
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 4: who's now off to New York. Jimmy Garoppolo, we over

1387
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 4: already covered him. He's an injury concern. But if Josh

1388
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 4: Jacobs can control the tempo of games and Jimmy Garoppolo

1389
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,720
Speaker 4: stays healthy, I think this is a team who can

1390
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 4: overperform that number.

1391
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:07,000
Speaker 3: That's a lot of ifs.

1392
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 2: I mean again, much like the Chargers, I don't trust

1393
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: this Raiders to I really have no foresight on the

1394
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:21,560
Speaker 2: Raiders this year. None because if you look at Jimmy Garoppolo,

1395
01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: how many games is the guy gonna play? Okay, but

1396
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 2: because if he doesn't play a full season, they're at

1397
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:29,439
Speaker 2: ground zero.

1398
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:33,000
Speaker 4: Yes, I completely agree with that, but we assume health

1399
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,000
Speaker 4: when we make certain certain estimations.

1400
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:40,400
Speaker 2: But you can't assume health in the case of Jimmy Garoppolo.

1401
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 4: If he's healthy, if Josh Jacobs plays, which I think

1402
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 4: both of those things are possible, if not likely likely

1403
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,760
Speaker 4: in the case of Jacobs, Jimmy Garoppolo is staying healthy.

1404
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm not as not as confident in him.

1405
01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 4: But if those two things happen, tell me the reason

1406
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,839
Speaker 4: why this can't be a top ten offense in the NFL.

1407
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 2: Well, they can be. And again, offensively, their numbers were

1408
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 2: respectable a year ago. As you mentioned, there was only

1409
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 2: two teams in the AFC that gave up more points

1410
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,600
Speaker 2: than the Raiders last year. That was the Colts, and

1411
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,000
Speaker 2: the Texans. I agree with you as far as the defense. Okay,

1412
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 2: on the other side, here to me is the surest

1413
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 2: bet on the board? Suris bet on the board? Tell

1414
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,440
Speaker 2: you all about it. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve.

1415
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:27,879
Speaker 3: Harvin and Rich Hornberger. Fox Sports Sunday.

1416
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 2: We are live from the TAIRAQ dot com studios. All right,

1417
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna explain what is the surest bet on the board?

1418
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:40,479
Speaker 2: So a year ago, at this time, there were some

1419
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 2: question marks about the Kansas City Chiefs. They were coming

1420
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,280
Speaker 2: off that second half collapse at home against the Bengals

1421
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship Game. Tyreek Hill, if not the

1422
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: best receiver in the NFL, probably the most feared receiver

1423
01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 2: in the NFL, had departed for Miami. And there were

1424
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:02,840
Speaker 2: question marks about this Chiefs team going in and they

1425
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 2: early in the season, they had some ups and downs,

1426
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: and then they caught fire. They won their last eight

1427
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 2: in a row, including their three game run in the

1428
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 2: playoffs to win yet another Super Bowl. So as we

1429
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 2: head into this season, you have a team you could

1430
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: talk about maybe complacency. Right, Well, I've won a couple

1431
01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:26,280
Speaker 2: of Super Bowls, They've hosted five straight AFC Championship games.

1432
01:16:26,520 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 2: I don't see any complacency in a guy like Patrick Mahomes.

1433
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:30,599
Speaker 3: He's on a mission.

1434
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 2: He wants to go down with the all time greats

1435
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 2: that have ever played the position, and already he's off

1436
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: to the greatest start of any quarterback in the history

1437
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: of the National Football League. The Chiefs over underwins. This

1438
01:16:45,240 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 2: is a fourteen and three team a year ago is

1439
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,720
Speaker 2: eleven and a half. Can I see any way the

1440
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 2: Chiefs would lose six games this year? Eleven and six?

1441
01:16:55,840 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 2: Can I see six losses in this division against the Broncos, Raiders,

1442
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,599
Speaker 2: and Chargers. They have owned this division for all these years,

1443
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 2: completely owned all.

1444
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,479
Speaker 3: Of their AFC West rivals.

1445
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't see any scenario where the Chiefs were

1446
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: to lose six or more games this year. Give me

1447
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 2: the over on eleven and a half for a Chiefs

1448
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,120
Speaker 2: team that I don't even think has peaked yet.

1449
01:17:22,600 --> 01:17:24,040
Speaker 3: On how good this team can be.

1450
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 4: Just look at their road games because Okay, I'm not

1451
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 4: going to assume all of their home games are win

1452
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 4: but let's say a majority of their home games are wins. Right, Okay,

1453
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,559
Speaker 4: So road games they go to the Jaguars, the Jets,

1454
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:44,360
Speaker 4: the Vikings, the Broncos, the Raiders, the Packers, the Patriots,

1455
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 4: and then they finished the season in January against the

1456
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 4: Chargers in LS.

1457
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 2: Seriously, if you were to look at even games, you

1458
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 2: might deem talk, can you see six losses on that schedule?

1459
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: No?

1460
01:17:56,920 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 4: No, I mean I mean just going out a division

1461
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:02,040
Speaker 4: and looking at their games out of division against the Patriots,

1462
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,840
Speaker 4: huge question marks there. Late season games, so you never

1463
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,799
Speaker 4: know what's going on in New England at that point.

1464
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,040
Speaker 4: Packers with Jordan Love, huge question marks there again, staying

1465
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 4: out of the division. Talking about road games the Jets

1466
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 4: early in the season is probably fortuitous timing, as Aaron

1467
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 4: Rodgers may be hammering out the kinks with the new offense.

1468
01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 4: Vikings on the road fifth game of the year. I

1469
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 4: just I look at the Kansas City Chiefs outside of

1470
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 4: the Philadelphia Eagles, and you're just looking at the most

1471
01:18:32,920 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 4: complete team in the National Football League, And yeah, I

1472
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,280
Speaker 4: completely agree with you. If you want the surest about

1473
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:42,799
Speaker 4: on the board, Chiefs winning twelve games or more feels

1474
01:18:42,920 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 4: like one of the surest bets you can make.

1475
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 1: Right now.

1476
01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 2: I can't look at their schedule and you tell me

1477
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 2: you see six losses.

1478
01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:49,760
Speaker 1: I don't.

1479
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 4: I don't see where. And by the way, they play

1480
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 4: the Bears at home, they get the Eagles at.

1481
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 3: Home, we'll toss their division.

1482
01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 2: I mean, at the worst, going to go five and one,

1483
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 2: probably six and on their division right there, and then

1484
01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 2: I just it's look, I wasn't one hundred percent sold

1485
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 2: a year ago yet on Mahomes, I mean, he was

1486
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 2: coming off a blowoff loss in the Super Bowl against Tampa,

1487
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 2: followed by a stunning second half collapse in that AFC

1488
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:23,720
Speaker 2: Championship at home against the Bengals. But again, watching this

1489
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 2: quarterback show and seeing a lot of the behind the scenes,

1490
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 2: I mean this, he is head and shoulders above every

1491
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 2: other quarterback in the st He is head and shoulders,

1492
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:40,560
Speaker 2: and he recognizes on the start of his career that

1493
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 2: he has a chance to get on that Mount Rushmore.

1494
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,559
Speaker 2: I mean, there's a lot tall hill declined to get

1495
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: anywhere near Tom Brady. But he's off to better start.

1496
01:19:50,560 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: He's a better quarterback easily, but his numbers everything else. Again,

1497
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 2: no quarterback of this early in their career has two

1498
01:19:57,160 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 2: regular season MVPs, two Super Bowl MVPs, two Super Bowl championships.

1499
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, look, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Travis Kelcey

1500
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 4: have been the glued to that offensive foundation.

1501
01:20:08,280 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 3: Kelsey's unbelievable, unbelievable.

1502
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:11,680
Speaker 1: He's unguardable.

1503
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 4: And then when you look at the defense, I mean,

1504
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 4: they've been able to overcome poor defenses in the past,

1505
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 4: so you barely even need to discuss it.

1506
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you on the Chiefs.

1507
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 2: All right, we've gone west, let's go east. How are

1508
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: the NFC and afcast gonna shake out better teams? We'll

1509
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,720
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1516
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 3: Should be so.

1517
01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 2: By the way, this weekend was the debuts of the

1518
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Countdown kickoff shows. Rich next Saturday, your

1519
01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 2: show will actually have games.

1520
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1521
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 2: Week zero in the college football season, highlighted by Notre

1522
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 2: Dame Navy USC taking on San Jose State.

1523
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:20,679
Speaker 4: I love that Notre Dame Navy matchup. Obviously we've seen

1524
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 4: that travel around the world. We've seen it travel around

1525
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:29,840
Speaker 4: the country. Certainly that's a fun one. And then usc Man,

1526
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 4: did you say it was USC right, San Jose State? Yes, yes,

1527
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 4: first opportunity to see Caleb Williams out there, this is

1528
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 4: kind of that.

1529
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,599
Speaker 2: Can he be Archie Griffin? I mean he's gonna certainly

1530
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,040
Speaker 2: have an opportunity to join Archie. Is the only guy

1531
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 2: to win two Heisman trophies.

1532
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's very possible. He's high on the list.

1533
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 4: Obviously, he's going to be defending the throne and that's

1534
01:21:55,120 --> 01:21:57,360
Speaker 4: a challenge that I'm sure he's looking forward to.

1535
01:21:58,800 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: When you because obviously Steve.

1536
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 4: Hartman, well known, well documented, has a Heisman vote. Yes,

1537
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 4: I do, And if you don't know, he'll remind you no, yes,

1538
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,639
Speaker 4: keep listening.

1539
01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know this, but I do

1540
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 3: have Heisman vote.

1541
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:20,080
Speaker 2: This will actually be the fourteenth year that I've been

1542
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 2: able to vote for the Heisman, starting twenty ten of

1543
01:22:22,640 --> 01:22:23,600
Speaker 2: the Cam Newton won the.

1544
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 3: Heisman with Auburn. That seems like just yesterday.

1545
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,960
Speaker 4: Now, I did say this on the countdown to kickoff

1546
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 4: show yesterday. Yes Saturday mornings nine to noon Eastern obviously

1547
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 4: six to nine on the West Coast. Here lead you

1548
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:40,480
Speaker 4: right up to kickoff Big noon Fox kickoffs every single Saturday.

1549
01:22:40,560 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 4: But our show this past weekend was, or I should

1550
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 4: say yesterday was really predicated around futures and looking into

1551
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 4: the crystal ball, and when we talked about Heisman odds

1552
01:22:52,720 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 4: my favorite and I want to share it with you first,

1553
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:56,800
Speaker 4: and then I want to get your thoughts on who

1554
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 4: you're really looking at in the preseason. Is Jordan Travis

1555
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 4: out of fl Florida State, the seminal quarterback who had

1556
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,120
Speaker 4: an outstanding year.

1557
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Florida State last year.

1558
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did.

1559
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,120
Speaker 2: I mean it just really comes down to as far

1560
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 2: as quarterbacks are concerned, your team's got to win I

1561
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 2: mean Florida State. I mean for him to be in

1562
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 2: the conversation. Obviously, they have to at least get to

1563
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,560
Speaker 2: the a SEC Championship game. They got to be you know,

1564
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:27,879
Speaker 2: you lose more than two games as a quarterback candidate.

1565
01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're you're not in the conversation now.

1566
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,439
Speaker 1: NT narrative is so important throughout the year.

1567
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 2: Also, you go into the year with Drake May obviously

1568
01:23:38,160 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 2: in the ACC at North Carolina getting in a lot

1569
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,679
Speaker 2: of hype. Yeah, he finished tenth as a Richard freshman

1570
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 2: a year ago, so he's already top ten Heisman. Look

1571
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 2: that the beauty about the Heisman now is opposed to

1572
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 2: many many years ago.

1573
01:23:50,640 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 3: Many years ago really was almost a career award. It's

1574
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:55,559
Speaker 3: not that case anymore.

1575
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 2: It's about this year. That's why I want to make

1576
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:00,760
Speaker 2: sure everyone's got a game on a their belt. And

1577
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:03,560
Speaker 2: nothing I predict because I do my Heisman updates on

1578
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 2: the weekends, has anything to do with last year. That's

1579
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 2: completely irrelevant. I mean, it's one season. Who is the

1580
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 2: best player that season? I can't wait, you know me,

1581
01:24:14,920 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 2: I just college football. Don't get me too excited. So

1582
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: what we're doing, like you say, we're looking at futures

1583
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 2: right now and we're talking about these over unders is

1584
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,000
Speaker 2: to get ready for the NFL season. We covered the

1585
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 2: teams in the AFC or the NFC West and the

1586
01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 2: AFC West. I want to turn to the East right now,

1587
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 2: rich and I want to start with the AFC East

1588
01:24:36,120 --> 01:24:40,599
Speaker 2: because this is one of those divisions that there's going

1589
01:24:40,680 --> 01:24:43,479
Speaker 2: to be a lot of eyeballs on with the arrival

1590
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:46,080
Speaker 2: of Aaron Rodgers and a Jets uniform. By the way,

1591
01:24:47,640 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 2: I've watched the first two episodes of Hard Knocks for.

1592
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:52,280
Speaker 3: A guy that really was.

1593
01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 2: When it was even mentioned that the NFL was trying to,

1594
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,720
Speaker 2: you know, get the Jets to agree to being on

1595
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: Hard Knocks, he basically pop they state, I want no

1596
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 2: part of it. But if you watch these first two episodes,

1597
01:25:04,360 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 2: it's the Aaron Rodgers show. And it's not just like they're.

1598
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 3: Following him around like he's dragging the camera with him.

1599
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 3: I mean, it's he can't get enough airtime on this show.

1600
01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:17,760
Speaker 2: So I'm not quite sure what he's trying to prove

1601
01:25:18,520 --> 01:25:21,320
Speaker 2: that because, I mean, if you knew nothing about Aaron

1602
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:24,559
Speaker 2: Rodgers and just based your opinion on him on these

1603
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 2: first two episodes of Hard Knocks, you would literally say,

1604
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:29,640
Speaker 2: this guy is the greatest.

1605
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 3: Teammate in the history of the National Football League.

1606
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:37,719
Speaker 2: I mean he is just he is jumping over fences

1607
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:43,840
Speaker 2: for players, coaches, equipment guys. He's the friendliest guy. He's

1608
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:47,160
Speaker 2: friendly with the other players and the other teams. It's

1609
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:50,920
Speaker 2: he's hoaching on the sidelines, you know. With Zach Wilson,

1610
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:53,960
Speaker 2: he's in his ear during these preseason games. I mean,

1611
01:25:54,000 --> 01:25:56,840
Speaker 2: if you knew nothing about Aaron Rodgers and base your

1612
01:25:56,840 --> 01:25:59,479
Speaker 2: opinion solely on these two shows, you would literally come

1613
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:01,799
Speaker 2: away he's the greatest teammate that was ever invented.

1614
01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 1: But let's let's slow down for a second. Yes, because

1615
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: what do we really know about Aaron Rodgers? Okay, not much? Well, right,

1616
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: we really don't know a lot.

1617
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:13,679
Speaker 4: Like a lot of people have a lot of strong

1618
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 4: opinions about Aaron who don't know Aaron. They don't They

1619
01:26:18,760 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 4: make assumptions based off of what they've heard and what

1620
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 4: they've seen. Like how much do we really know about

1621
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 4: Bill Belichick? Is everybody willing to just say, oh, no,

1622
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,680
Speaker 4: he's a real d bag because of the way he

1623
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:35,400
Speaker 4: treats the media. No, No, nobody says that about Bill.

1624
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 4: There's this weird level of respect that everybody gives Bill

1625
01:26:39,000 --> 01:26:40,920
Speaker 4: that they don't give eron now. I know Aaron has

1626
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 4: said some controversial things that really rub people the wrong way,

1627
01:26:45,479 --> 01:26:50,360
Speaker 4: and maybe oficscating his vaccination status at the height of

1628
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 4: the pandemic with something that really turned people off because

1629
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 4: they you know, he didn't answer the question directly. You know,

1630
01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 4: there's a lot of reasons why people all of a

1631
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 4: sudd sudden became very anti Aaron Rodgers, and maybe some

1632
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,560
Speaker 4: of those are understandable, But there's not a lot of

1633
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 4: people who have personal ties to Aaron Rodgers, not a lot.

1634
01:27:11,680 --> 01:27:14,720
Speaker 4: There are some, and the s is probably about a

1635
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:19,080
Speaker 4: handful of really loud detractors, but there's not a lot

1636
01:27:19,120 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 4: of people who know him personally who are willing to

1637
01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 4: be detractors. The majority of people that I've met who

1638
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:28,839
Speaker 4: have played with Aaron Rodgers consider him a pleasant teammate,

1639
01:27:29,320 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 4: a great guy to play with, one of the better

1640
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:34,320
Speaker 4: leaders they played with.

1641
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been telling you this for years. I've

1642
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 1: been telling you this for years and years, Steve.

1643
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 4: We've been working together on the radio for better than

1644
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 4: a half a decade, and I've told you every single

1645
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,559
Speaker 4: person that I know personally who has played with Aaron

1646
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,639
Speaker 4: Rodgers and know him personally have said nothing but nice

1647
01:27:51,680 --> 01:27:53,880
Speaker 4: things about him. Yeah, there are a couple of former

1648
01:27:53,960 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 4: teammates who may have an ax to grind that will

1649
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:01,160
Speaker 4: come onto radio shows or go on to television shows

1650
01:28:01,200 --> 01:28:05,439
Speaker 4: and talk badly about Aaron Rodgers. Everybody in the public

1651
01:28:05,439 --> 01:28:07,439
Speaker 4: guy is going to have a couple enemies. You can't

1652
01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:09,920
Speaker 4: avoid that. But I mean, does are we going to

1653
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 4: predicate our entire knowledge of him based off of just

1654
01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,120
Speaker 4: some people who may have some sour things to say

1655
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 4: about him? Well, I'm not comfortable doing that. I never

1656
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 4: was comfortable doing that. I trusted the people that I

1657
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,160
Speaker 4: spoke to, and I think actually Hard Knocks is probably

1658
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 4: more representative of who Aaron Rodgers is on a day

1659
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,759
Speaker 4: to day than all of the other stuff that swirls

1660
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 4: around the narrative of Aaron Rodgers.

1661
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:35,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1662
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 2: Again, I look at this show and I get a

1663
01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:42,679
Speaker 2: good feeling about the Jets, and then they're selling jets.

1664
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:44,559
Speaker 2: I get all that. So let's start with the Jets

1665
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 2: right now. The over runners nine and a half, nine

1666
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 2: and a half. I mean it's not ten, eleven twelve,

1667
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 2: it's nine and a half. When you think about the

1668
01:28:55,080 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 2: addition of a Dalvin Cook, I mean, Dalvin Cook is

1669
01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 2: one of the best running backs in the NFL. When

1670
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 2: has he not been good? He dominated at Florida State.

1671
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 2: This guy has been a productive running back for as

1672
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,240
Speaker 2: long as I've ever seen this guy. Is he going

1673
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:14,439
Speaker 2: to be the same of the Jets. Yeah, he's going

1674
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 2: to be the same With the Jets because a maestro

1675
01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 2: like Aaron Rodgers is going to figure out a way

1676
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,799
Speaker 2: to utilize him, and he has an offensive coordinator Nathaniel

1677
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Hackett then understands that. So when I look at Jets

1678
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:29,960
Speaker 2: nine and a half over under, I mean, we're not

1679
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 2: even talking about the presidence of a Quinn Williams on

1680
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,080
Speaker 2: your defensive line. Who you know, with Aaron Donald maybe

1681
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 2: on the down side of his career, maybe this guy's

1682
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: the most dominant interior defensive lineman in the league right now?

1683
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:44,400
Speaker 3: Can the Jets go ten and seven?

1684
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1685
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 2: I mean in my book everything I see, yes, yeah, yes,

1686
01:29:49,640 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 2: I'm going over on the Jets nine and a half.

1687
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 4: You've heard me say this before, and I understand what's

1688
01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 4: in the way in the AFC, but the Jets are

1689
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 4: a special team with what I believe is a special

1690
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:07,960
Speaker 4: budding culture with Robert sala And this is before hard knocks,

1691
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,600
Speaker 4: this is before everybody was coming out in support of

1692
01:30:10,640 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 4: the Jets. I was saying that the Jets look to

1693
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 4: me to have every single discernible part of their roster

1694
01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 4: covered to be a real super Bowl.

1695
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:21,640
Speaker 2: Come about that offensive line, though, Rich, I mean, this

1696
01:30:21,800 --> 01:30:24,640
Speaker 2: is your area of expertise. By the way, the second episode,

1697
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:29,200
Speaker 2: Sala went off in front of the entire team about

1698
01:30:29,240 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 2: the offensive line.

1699
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,160
Speaker 4: They need to get better up front. Yeah, they need

1700
01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:34,479
Speaker 4: to get better up front because that was a problem

1701
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 4: last year. It's something that I think they tried their

1702
01:30:40,000 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 4: hardest to address this offseason. But the burning question is upfront.

1703
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:50,560
Speaker 4: You know, if they can't keep Rogers clean, this is

1704
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 4: going to be a relatively ineffective offense. But just think

1705
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 4: about look, I mean, think about how versatile their offense is.

1706
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 4: Are all of a sudden, Yes, if Brece Hall and

1707
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:07,720
Speaker 4: Dalvin Cook can just replicate when healthy for Breese but

1708
01:31:08,280 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 4: Dalvin healthy last year, exceptional running back last year. If

1709
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 4: they can replicate successes that they enjoyed last year, all

1710
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 4: of a sudden, you have an offense that's versatile enough

1711
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 4: that you're not going to have to depend on your

1712
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,880
Speaker 4: offensive line as much as other teams like, You're not

1713
01:31:26,960 --> 01:31:29,920
Speaker 4: going to be throwing the ball forty eight times fifty

1714
01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:32,000
Speaker 4: times a game. You're going to have a much more

1715
01:31:32,080 --> 01:31:34,800
Speaker 4: balanced offense. You're going to be keeping the defense a

1716
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 4: lot more honest. As a result of that, I would

1717
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:41,320
Speaker 4: lean heavy, especially in the regular season, on controlling the

1718
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,639
Speaker 4: tempo of the game with Cook and Hall and letting

1719
01:31:44,640 --> 01:31:47,800
Speaker 4: the offensive line get there the ground under their feet

1720
01:31:47,840 --> 01:31:50,240
Speaker 4: in the run game, and then mixing in some of

1721
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,679
Speaker 4: the short passing games, some of the play action stuff

1722
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:57,240
Speaker 4: that we saw Rogers shine with in the floor offense

1723
01:31:57,479 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 4: that Nathaniel Hackett ran in Green Bay when they were

1724
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 4: together there for back to back MVP seasons, and run

1725
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 4: that back again. I think the Jets have every single

1726
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:16,000
Speaker 4: again roster, roster makeup point or data point that suggests

1727
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:18,800
Speaker 4: to me that they could potentially go on a very

1728
01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:21,040
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Speaker 2: That's the over nine and a half. Can they win ten? Yes,

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01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,240
Speaker 2: the answer is yes on the Jets, all right. On

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Speaker 2: timing right now. We got one more week of preseason

1752
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Speaker 2: football and then the real games will begin. We're going

1753
01:33:48,479 --> 01:33:52,240
Speaker 2: on these over unders as far as wins for the

1754
01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season. We've been talking about the afsees.

1755
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 2: We talked about the team of the moment, that's the Jets.

1756
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 2: I think we're both in agreement that nine and a

1757
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:05,280
Speaker 2: half might be a little low. So when we think

1758
01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 2: about the AFC East from two thousand and one to

1759
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, in that nineteen years span, the New England

1760
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 2: Patriots won the AFCAST seventeen times, yes, out of nineteen years.

1761
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 2: The other two years they finished second, and one of

1762
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 2: those years was the year that Brady got hurt and

1763
01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:27,639
Speaker 2: Matt Castle was in a quarterback. In the three years

1764
01:34:28,160 --> 01:34:32,759
Speaker 2: since Brady's departure, they had finished third, second, and third

1765
01:34:32,840 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 2: in the AFC East. And the one year they had

1766
01:34:35,640 --> 01:34:39,160
Speaker 2: a winning record two years ago, they lost their playoff

1767
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:43,560
Speaker 2: game by thirty to the Buffalo Bills. So here we

1768
01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:46,400
Speaker 2: are and they're over. Under is seven and a half,

1769
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 2: two games clear of all the other teams in this division.

1770
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 2: In other words, Vegas says they are clearly the worst

1771
01:34:56,040 --> 01:35:01,479
Speaker 2: team in this division. So comes in as a new

1772
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:05,320
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, really replacing nobody. They didn't have a legit

1773
01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:10,160
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator a year ago. Mac Jones took a step backwards.

1774
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 2: So for this team to go over seven and a half,

1775
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,599
Speaker 2: and again they go eight to nine, and you bet

1776
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:21,680
Speaker 2: the over you win even if they lose. So when

1777
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:25,479
Speaker 2: you look at this Patriots team, seek Elliot's been added

1778
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:31,400
Speaker 2: to the running back corps. Is this a team with

1779
01:35:31,560 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 2: the addition of Bill O'Brien, because that's a key hire

1780
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 2: as offensive coordinator they can show some life here and

1781
01:35:41,200 --> 01:35:44,960
Speaker 2: find a way to be at the very least a

1782
01:35:45,160 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 2: winning team by season's end.

1783
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,519
Speaker 1: All right, Look, this is the way you have to

1784
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:51,040
Speaker 1: look at this.

1785
01:35:52,000 --> 01:35:56,120
Speaker 4: For anybody out there who's playing along and is looking

1786
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 4: for advice, I'm telling you right now, if I had

1787
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,360
Speaker 4: ten bucks or fifty bucks or one hundred dollars to

1788
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,679
Speaker 4: bet on this, I would take the over. And here's

1789
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:11,639
Speaker 4: the reason why. It's because Bill Belichick isn't losing ten games.

1790
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 4: I I just don't see a world where with a

1791
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:21,480
Speaker 4: you know, presumably healthy Mac Jones, with an offensive coordinator

1792
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:25,320
Speaker 4: who's proven in this league, who's won in New England,

1793
01:36:25,439 --> 01:36:28,519
Speaker 4: granted with the greatest quarterback of all time, Tom Brady,

1794
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 4: but has won in New England, that they are going

1795
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:35,519
Speaker 4: to struggle so much that they're going to lose ten games.

1796
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, they added Zeke Elliott to the backfield,

1797
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:42,080
Speaker 4: but that's not it. They also added Juju Smith Schuster

1798
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 4: because they lost Myers some free agency. And they also,

1799
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:47,479
Speaker 4: which may prove to be a bigger move than a

1800
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,439
Speaker 4: lot of people are given a credit for, because he

1801
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:52,880
Speaker 4: was really good for Miami before McDaniel took over as

1802
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:56,760
Speaker 4: head coach, but Mike Kasicki, you know, Mike KASICKI will

1803
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,040
Speaker 4: see how it all pans out, but that could end

1804
01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 4: up being a big pick up for this offense. They're

1805
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 4: always good. They're always good on defense. The Patriots just

1806
01:37:06,640 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 4: are always good. I mean, it doesn't matter even if

1807
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,759
Speaker 4: they're anonymous, even if they have, you know, zero juice

1808
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,840
Speaker 4: in terms of name recognition, They're always good on defense.

1809
01:37:15,880 --> 01:37:18,280
Speaker 4: You don't worry about the defense. It comes down to

1810
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:22,400
Speaker 4: Remandre Stevenson. It comes down to juju Smith, Schuster, it

1811
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 4: comes down to Gasiki to a greater or lesser extent,

1812
01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:31,280
Speaker 4: Zeke Elliott and especially Mac Jones running the Billy O'Brien offense.

1813
01:37:31,800 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 4: If they can gel, then there's no way in my

1814
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:38,080
Speaker 4: mind that the Patriots lose ten games. Now, will they

1815
01:37:38,160 --> 01:37:38,839
Speaker 4: win the division?

1816
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: Absolutely not.

1817
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,760
Speaker 4: The Jets just got Aaron Rodgers, who's a future Hall

1818
01:37:42,760 --> 01:37:44,760
Speaker 4: of Famer, and that was a team that I felt

1819
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,840
Speaker 4: to where a quarterback away from being a real threat

1820
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:50,599
Speaker 4: in the AFC last year. The Miami Dolphins are an

1821
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 4: upward trajectory. We'll see about the health of two of

1822
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 4: this upcoming season, but that's a team that defensively and offensively,

1823
01:37:57,280 --> 01:37:59,759
Speaker 4: they've got a lot of weapons that that front seven

1824
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:02,400
Speaker 4: is a lot better than people want to give it

1825
01:38:02,479 --> 01:38:03,000
Speaker 4: credit for it.

1826
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,240
Speaker 1: They can get after the passer in Miami and the Bills.

1827
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 4: The Bills have been a success success story since Sean

1828
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:14,000
Speaker 4: McDermott and Josh Allen have teamed up a little bit

1829
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:16,479
Speaker 4: of regression last year with Ken Dorsey in charge of

1830
01:38:16,520 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 4: the offense instead of Brian dabol But they're very good.

1831
01:38:20,160 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 4: So there's no chance really for the Patriots to contend

1832
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:26,760
Speaker 4: for this division. And I don't look at them as

1833
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 4: a guaranteed lock, you know, playoff team. I don't think

1834
01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 4: they're most likely not going to win enough games to

1835
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,680
Speaker 4: be a playoff game team. But I can't see a

1836
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 4: team with the pieces that they currently have in place

1837
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:39,960
Speaker 4: losing ten games.

1838
01:38:40,040 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: I just can't. So I take the over here.

1839
01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:45,719
Speaker 2: Well, you say it seems unlikely they could lose ten games,

1840
01:38:45,760 --> 01:38:48,000
Speaker 2: but they've lost nine games two of the last three years.

1841
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:51,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they've been every different circumstances. Think about those

1842
01:38:51,520 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 1: last two years.

1843
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,760
Speaker 4: Think about the okay, so the losing season with Cam

1844
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:00,519
Speaker 4: Newton that quarterback, and then last year with a defensive

1845
01:39:00,520 --> 01:39:02,400
Speaker 4: coordinator calling your offensive plays.

1846
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm just saying yes, with Matt Patricia holding that clipboard,

1847
01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:10,120
Speaker 2: it was a little underving to say the league. I mean,

1848
01:39:10,360 --> 01:39:13,160
Speaker 2: I agree with everything you're saying in terms of they've

1849
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 2: got to be better. They got to be better, right,

1850
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 2: just with the addition of Bill O'Brien, have to be

1851
01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,679
Speaker 2: But they're only going to be better if Mac Jones

1852
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 2: gets better. I mean, we talk over and over again,

1853
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:29,920
Speaker 2: Rich about a quarterback driven league. Mac jones rookie season

1854
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 2: showed so much promise and then last year was the

1855
01:39:34,280 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 2: blame completely on the offensive coordinators situation, the lack thereof

1856
01:39:38,680 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 2: we're gonna find out that's a team again, seven and

1857
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:44,920
Speaker 2: a half seems like a low number to me. I agree,

1858
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,680
Speaker 2: I'm not sniffing that one though. I'll tell you a

1859
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:53,280
Speaker 2: team though, I will sniff a line on and that's

1860
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,040
Speaker 2: the team at the top of this division, the Buffalo Bills.

1861
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 2: So I mentioned earlier that there is a number that

1862
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,920
Speaker 2: you look at this number and I would imagine the

1863
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 2: overwhelming majority of people immediately will jump on one side

1864
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:16,040
Speaker 2: of this number, and I'm thinking it might be the

1865
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:20,400
Speaker 2: other side, and it's the Buffalo Bills. So we mentioned

1866
01:40:20,439 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 2: earlier about the Chiefs, and we both agree that there's

1867
01:40:24,439 --> 01:40:26,559
Speaker 2: just no way the Chiefs are going to lose six games.

1868
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 2: The over runner on them is eleven and a half.

1869
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,559
Speaker 2: I mean, look at this guy. Where do you see

1870
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: six losses for the Chiefs Nowhere? It's like you'll be

1871
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:40,200
Speaker 2: making games up. The Buffalo Bills are ten and a half.

1872
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 2: So think about that, the Buffalo Bills, and they were

1873
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:49,200
Speaker 2: thirteen and three member the game against the Bengals was

1874
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 2: canceled because of the Tomorrow Handlin situation. And they're at

1875
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 2: ten and a half, and you're thinking, wow, that's easy

1876
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:03,400
Speaker 2: money over I mean, do you see seven losses on

1877
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:04,200
Speaker 2: their schedule?

1878
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,640
Speaker 3: And I'm saying, hit the brakes a little bit on this.

1879
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:12,639
Speaker 2: Okay, On the other side, I'll explain why, because there's

1880
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:19,360
Speaker 2: something about the bills in my gut that isn't quite right.

1881
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1886
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 8: I don't know what's in my gut, but it feels

1887
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 8: the same as your gut when it comes to the

1888
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 8: Bills this season.

1889
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:47,479
Speaker 3: There's there's something I'm with this, something that is why right.

1890
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 8: Yes, earlier in the week, I was like, it's for me,

1891
01:41:50,479 --> 01:41:52,880
Speaker 8: it's do or die for Josh Allen. I felt like

1892
01:41:52,960 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 8: three years ago, you were like, oh my god, he's

1893
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 8: single handily three years ago won my fantasy league.

1894
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,960
Speaker 2: Well, single handedly that shootout loss again and sma Holmes

1895
01:42:01,600 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 2: sort of took.

1896
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:06,080
Speaker 3: His game even to another level. Yes, yeah, but we'll

1897
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:06,639
Speaker 3: get into.

1898
01:42:06,479 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I feel I feel the gut, I feel it.

1899
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 7: I feel it with you totally. Now, what is trending

1900
01:42:11,880 --> 01:42:13,599
Speaker 7: is mister Anthony Edwards.

1901
01:42:14,240 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 8: Team USA has gone five and zering their exhibition games.

1902
01:42:18,160 --> 01:42:21,439
Speaker 8: They beat Germany ninety nineteen ninety one, but apparently Edwards

1903
01:42:21,479 --> 01:42:23,320
Speaker 8: went off for thirty four points.

1904
01:42:23,560 --> 01:42:25,559
Speaker 9: Team USA trailed by as many as sixteen.

1905
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 8: He was part of the big defensive comeback and so

1906
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 8: now Team USA will play New Zealand on Saturday. But

1907
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:35,000
Speaker 8: Anthony Edwards is trending as he is him apparently on

1908
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 8: X or Twitter dot com.

1909
01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:38,880
Speaker 7: What do we say these days, because it still says

1910
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 7: Twitter dot com but it's X whatever. Moving on to

1911
01:42:41,800 --> 01:42:42,719
Speaker 7: Major League Baseball.

1912
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,799
Speaker 8: Labor Torres has just hit a solo shot for the Yankees,

1913
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:47,800
Speaker 8: and now they are tied once again with the Red

1914
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:50,200
Speaker 8: Sox at home, two to bottom of the six and

1915
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,240
Speaker 8: in New York trying to snap that seven game losing streak.

1916
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,599
Speaker 8: Julio Rodriguez still just has one hit in today's game.

1917
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:58,800
Speaker 8: It's all right, that's eighteen hits in five games. We're

1918
01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:01,679
Speaker 8: not gonna judge that. Are still beating the Astros at home,

1919
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,800
Speaker 8: seven to six, top of the seventh inning. Giants have

1920
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 8: been holding on to their lead over the Braves three

1921
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 8: to two bottom of the sixth inning, while the Tigers

1922
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 8: have added some more runs. They're beating the Guardians four

1923
01:43:11,840 --> 01:43:14,800
Speaker 8: to one bottom of the seventh. Brandon Belt has homer

1924
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,559
Speaker 8: twice for the Blue Jays, has three RBIs, and they're

1925
01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:20,320
Speaker 8: beating the Reds nine to two bottom of the sixth inning.

1926
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:23,080
Speaker 8: Twins up on the Pirates at home one zero, bottom

1927
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,719
Speaker 8: of the six. Mets and Cardinals. Do we care about

1928
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 8: this game?

1929
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 7: Maybe somebody does. It's two to one top of the

1930
01:43:28,320 --> 01:43:29,599
Speaker 7: fifth inning, Mets on top.

1931
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 8: The Cubs are beating the Royals three to one bottom

1932
01:43:32,360 --> 01:43:34,360
Speaker 8: of the fifth inning, and the Brewers have scored first

1933
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:37,320
Speaker 8: against the Rangers to zero top of the third inning.

1934
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:39,760
Speaker 8: And just a little NFL and news, Aaron Rodgers will

1935
01:43:39,800 --> 01:43:42,840
Speaker 8: make his Jets debut in next Saturday's preseason finale against

1936
01:43:42,880 --> 01:43:45,519
Speaker 8: the New York Giants, while Tampa Bay Buccaneers said coach

1937
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 8: Todd Bowles says that there is no timetable for them

1938
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 8: to name a starting quarterback for the twenty twenty three season.

1939
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:52,559
Speaker 7: Back to you guys, all.

1940
01:43:52,520 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 2: Right, monsie, thank you very very much. All right, talking

1941
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:59,360
Speaker 2: about over unders and the Buffalo Bills. And think about

1942
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 2: this for a second, rich, So they were thirteen and

1943
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,479
Speaker 2: three last year during the regular season had the game

1944
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:08,280
Speaker 2: against the Bengals canceled. The three losses were by a

1945
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:12,360
Speaker 2: total of eight points. That's how close they were of

1946
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:13,680
Speaker 2: being sixteen and zero.

1947
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

1948
01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:19,719
Speaker 2: And then they eat by Miami in the wildcard round

1949
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 2: and then get boat raced by the Bengals in the

1950
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:29,120
Speaker 2: divisional round. They don't finish strong. So again you're thinking

1951
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 2: to yourself, the Bills have been in the conversation. In fact,

1952
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 2: at the start of last year they were the clear

1953
01:44:35,720 --> 01:44:37,880
Speaker 2: favorites to win the Super Bowl. Remember they opened the

1954
01:44:37,960 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 2: year on the road against the Rams, the defending Super

1955
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 2: Bowl champions, just blow them out of the building. Came

1956
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 2: home against the Titans, did the same thing. You're like, wow,

1957
01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,960
Speaker 2: I mean this is this team is a juggernaut. So

1958
01:44:49,080 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 2: I keep looking at this Buffalo Bills team and something

1959
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:56,080
Speaker 2: is missing.

1960
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:57,400
Speaker 3: I'll put it this way.

1961
01:44:57,760 --> 01:44:59,479
Speaker 2: When I look at this line of ten and a

1962
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,160
Speaker 2: half wins for a team that was thirteen and three

1963
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 2: last year and lost those three games by eight points.

1964
01:45:05,479 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 3: I'm thinking.

1965
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:13,000
Speaker 2: Vegas is really smart, right, Why would this number be

1966
01:45:13,120 --> 01:45:15,639
Speaker 2: out here? Because on the services like ten and a half,

1967
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:18,479
Speaker 2: what are you talking about? Like this team's going to

1968
01:45:18,560 --> 01:45:22,680
Speaker 2: lose seven games? So that's why to me, it's like

1969
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:26,800
Speaker 2: a warning sign, like they know something we don't know.

1970
01:45:27,520 --> 01:45:30,880
Speaker 2: I think Brian Dable was a huge part of this

1971
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:33,880
Speaker 2: coaching staff. I think what he did a year ago

1972
01:45:33,960 --> 01:45:35,880
Speaker 2: in his first year with the Giants proved this guy

1973
01:45:36,000 --> 01:45:37,160
Speaker 2: is a legit.

1974
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:40,519
Speaker 3: Elite coach. We'll see how much more he can do

1975
01:45:40,640 --> 01:45:44,719
Speaker 3: with the Giants. But there's just something about that number

1976
01:45:44,920 --> 01:45:47,639
Speaker 3: that just doesn't shake out with me. Maybe it's because

1977
01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:48,280
Speaker 3: the division.

1978
01:45:48,400 --> 01:45:51,320
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, obviously with the addition of Aaron Rodgers

1979
01:45:51,400 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 2: with the Jets, and I think Miami's going to be

1980
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:56,920
Speaker 2: improved from a year ago, and at least you'd think

1981
01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:00,040
Speaker 2: New England's going to be improved. But am I he

1982
01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,920
Speaker 2: Am I missing something here on why that number is

1983
01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 2: so low for a Bills team that's been so good,

1984
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 2: certainly in the regular season over the last several years.

1985
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:14,280
Speaker 4: Well, I think that everybody, including sharp betters, can be

1986
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 4: can fall victim to recency bias. If you look at

1987
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 4: the way the Bills performed to start the season and

1988
01:46:24,439 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 4: then the way they performed to finish out this season,

1989
01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:31,559
Speaker 4: it really is kind of the tale of two different teams. Now,

1990
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that the Bills are going to be,

1991
01:46:36,360 --> 01:46:40,840
Speaker 4: you know, world beaters, you know, like I don't know

1992
01:46:41,680 --> 01:46:44,040
Speaker 4: if I believe that they're winning a Super Bowl this

1993
01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:49,120
Speaker 4: upcoming season. But I kind of have flip flopped on

1994
01:46:49,240 --> 01:46:52,760
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills this offseason when the season ended and

1995
01:46:52,840 --> 01:46:56,559
Speaker 4: we were close to, you know, the season really skidding

1996
01:46:56,640 --> 01:46:58,840
Speaker 4: to a halt in a twenty seven to ten loss

1997
01:46:58,880 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 4: in the divisional round again the Bengals, I felt like, Wow,

1998
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:06,160
Speaker 4: the Bills, they're a different team this year. Without Brian

1999
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 4: dabol There's issues there that started rearing their head with

2000
01:47:10,560 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 4: Stefan Diggs and then they reappeared during OTAs. So far

2001
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 4: this preseason, it's been all quiet on that front, and

2002
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 4: they blamed the media for overhyping it, but something was

2003
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,160
Speaker 4: going on. Clearly there was something they needed to clean

2004
01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 4: up and figure out, and maybe they figured it out.

2005
01:47:28,280 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 4: But I'm starting to lean more in the direction of

2006
01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:34,000
Speaker 4: the Buffalo Bills are probably at worst a ten or

2007
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 4: eleven win team. Like, at worst, I could see them

2008
01:47:36,960 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 4: sneaking into the playoffs as a wildcard team and then

2009
01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,600
Speaker 4: maybe making an earlier exit, whether it be in the

2010
01:47:42,640 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 4: wildcard round or the divisional round. Really, at worst, I

2011
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,759
Speaker 4: mean their windows open. This team is still as talented

2012
01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 4: as it has been since Sean McDermott started enjoying success

2013
01:47:54,160 --> 01:47:59,680
Speaker 4: in Buffalo, and everybody kind of forgets how emotionally deflating

2014
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:02,479
Speaker 4: that Damar Hamlin's situation wise.

2015
01:48:02,360 --> 01:48:04,599
Speaker 2: Yes, and I guess that brings up the bigger question

2016
01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:06,679
Speaker 2: I was going to jump in just quickly about tomorrow

2017
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:10,960
Speaker 2: Hamlin's return. Yeah, I mean, it's incredible to see this

2018
01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:15,680
Speaker 2: guy back out on the field playing the game. And

2019
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,880
Speaker 2: it's a great point. I mean, emotionally, it had to

2020
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:23,880
Speaker 2: have an adverse effect after that injury, after everything that

2021
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:27,000
Speaker 2: he had gone through, and now he's back.

2022
01:48:28,479 --> 01:48:31,439
Speaker 3: Does that give added emotion to the Bills?

2023
01:48:31,640 --> 01:48:31,800
Speaker 5: Is it?

2024
01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:34,080
Speaker 3: You know, his return going to.

2025
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:37,519
Speaker 2: Inspire the Bills to you know, obliterate this over UNDERD

2026
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:39,320
Speaker 2: ten and a half and be a thirteen to fourteen

2027
01:48:39,360 --> 01:48:40,519
Speaker 2: win seam this year.

2028
01:48:40,720 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like the emotional lift of having him back

2029
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 4: on the field and being productive. By the way, after

2030
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:51,560
Speaker 4: seeing him die on the field in Week seventeen of

2031
01:48:51,680 --> 01:48:54,720
Speaker 4: last year, I mean legitimately, the man's heart stopped on

2032
01:48:54,840 --> 01:48:57,719
Speaker 4: the field in since he Yeah, they had to cancel

2033
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:00,960
Speaker 4: the game. They weren't even sure if the Bills were

2034
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 4: going to play the next week against New England at home,

2035
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,440
Speaker 4: and they end up playing the game and they survive

2036
01:49:07,680 --> 01:49:09,639
Speaker 4: that battle, you know, I mean, don't get me wrong.

2037
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 4: At the end, you look at the box score and

2038
01:49:11,479 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 4: you say, oh, thirty five to twenty three, they kind

2039
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 4: of handled them, but it was a close game. It

2040
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 4: was a very close game throughout most.

2041
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 1: Of the game.

2042
01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,679
Speaker 4: And then you look at the way that they kind

2043
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 4: of again survived against a Skyler Thompson led Miami team

2044
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,400
Speaker 4: to move on to the divisional round before getting boat raced.

2045
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,559
Speaker 4: I think appropriately put by you earlier by the Cincinnati Bengals,

2046
01:49:32,840 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 4: And yeah, of course there's gonna be a lot of

2047
01:49:34,400 --> 01:49:37,960
Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills detractors out there, But I mean that offense

2048
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:41,840
Speaker 4: was humming throughout the majority of the early season. I

2049
01:49:43,200 --> 01:49:47,759
Speaker 4: think that losing some key defenders to injury really affected

2050
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:51,679
Speaker 4: them as the mid middle of that season took hold.

2051
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 4: But this is a thirteen win team who experienced such

2052
01:49:56,200 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 4: an unbelievably traumatic event in the NFL that we've never

2053
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:03,640
Speaker 4: experienced it in the course of the history of this

2054
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:07,200
Speaker 4: sports league before, and we're just going to write them

2055
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,519
Speaker 4: off like, well, Brian day Bole clearly was everything. It's like, well,

2056
01:50:10,640 --> 01:50:13,320
Speaker 4: hang on a second. Without Brian day Ball, this was

2057
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 4: still a thirteen win team, and even even going through

2058
01:50:17,640 --> 01:50:22,560
Speaker 4: that devastating traumatic event that we just described in Cincinnati,

2059
01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:25,920
Speaker 4: they still made it to the second round of the playoffs.

2060
01:50:26,160 --> 01:50:29,000
Speaker 1: So I mean, I'm a little confused with.

2061
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,680
Speaker 4: How all of a sudden the public is starting to

2062
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:35,599
Speaker 4: lean against the Bills because I just don't I don't

2063
01:50:35,720 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 4: really see how this team is going to perform much

2064
01:50:39,120 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 4: worse than eleven wins.

2065
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:41,639
Speaker 1: I just don't.

2066
01:50:42,479 --> 01:50:45,280
Speaker 3: Final team in the AFC East is the Miami Dolphins.

2067
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:46,160
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

2068
01:50:46,479 --> 01:50:48,840
Speaker 2: If you were to wager they're over unders nine and

2069
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:52,200
Speaker 2: a half, identical to the Jets. If you were to

2070
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 2: wager right now, who will win more games, the Jets

2071
01:50:55,439 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 2: or Dolphins, who.

2072
01:50:56,560 --> 01:50:57,000
Speaker 1: Do you pick?

2073
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:00,519
Speaker 4: I mean, I just I like the quarter back in

2074
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:05,679
Speaker 4: New York better, right, I mean it mean Jets? Yes, yeah,

2075
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:07,880
Speaker 4: Like the Miami Dolphins are a little bit of a

2076
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,680
Speaker 4: stayoff team for me because I'm so nervous about the

2077
01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 4: quarterback situation. So I wouldn't put money on I wouldn't

2078
01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:18,639
Speaker 4: feel comfortable putting my money on the Dolphins this upcoming

2079
01:51:18,720 --> 01:51:24,080
Speaker 4: season to win double digits. I would very comfortably.

2080
01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,400
Speaker 1: Put money on the Jets winning double digits.

2081
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:27,519
Speaker 3: All right, Let's put it this way.

2082
01:51:27,920 --> 01:51:30,760
Speaker 2: The odds of all four teams in a division going

2083
01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,040
Speaker 2: over are astronomical.

2084
01:51:33,200 --> 01:51:33,880
Speaker 1: Astronomy.

2085
01:51:34,040 --> 01:51:37,600
Speaker 2: It does not happen. Now, somebody's going under in this

2086
01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 2: AFC East. So think about this for a second. So

2087
01:51:40,280 --> 01:51:42,960
Speaker 2: New England seven and a half, Miami and the Jets

2088
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:44,880
Speaker 2: are at nine and a half, Buffalos at ten and

2089
01:51:44,960 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 2: a half.

2090
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:48,800
Speaker 3: Which team is most likely to go under?

2091
01:51:50,280 --> 01:51:53,360
Speaker 4: The team that's most likely to go under, I would

2092
01:51:53,400 --> 01:51:55,120
Speaker 4: say is the New England Patriots.

2093
01:51:55,479 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 3: Really, yeah, you sure it's not the Miami Dolphins.

2094
01:51:58,520 --> 01:52:01,400
Speaker 4: I think it's the New England Patriots. Because the Miami Dolphins,

2095
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 4: I think if Tua stays healthy, they have the best

2096
01:52:05,960 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 4: chance of or I should say they have a very

2097
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:12,640
Speaker 4: good chance of going over. But just predicated on offseason

2098
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 4: additions and just the direction of the organization last year.

2099
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 4: Like you said, if mac Jones doesn't turn to form

2100
01:52:19,920 --> 01:52:23,839
Speaker 4: like it, we don't see rookie mac Jones, you know renewed.

2101
01:52:24,479 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 2: Well, you just said you can't see Belichick losing ten games.

2102
01:52:27,560 --> 01:52:29,679
Speaker 2: If they go under, They've lost ten games.

2103
01:52:29,920 --> 01:52:31,920
Speaker 4: Now, I get it, I get it. But I'm saying

2104
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:35,759
Speaker 4: in a division where all of these teams, in my mind.

2105
01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:37,080
Speaker 3: Are you sold on Mike McDaniel.

2106
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

2107
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:40,719
Speaker 4: I think Mike McDaniel's a good head coach. I really,

2108
01:52:40,920 --> 01:52:42,000
Speaker 4: I'm a believer.

2109
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 3: I can see a little Brandon Staley in him.

2110
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:44,960
Speaker 11: No, no, no, no, no.

2111
01:52:45,400 --> 01:52:47,680
Speaker 4: I think I don't think it's I don't think it's

2112
01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,400
Speaker 4: snake oil being sold in Miami.

2113
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 1: I think he's a good coach.

2114
01:52:51,040 --> 01:52:53,000
Speaker 2: I think he is the fact that he kept Tua

2115
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 2: out on the field last year when he shouldn't have

2116
01:52:55,560 --> 01:52:58,160
Speaker 2: been dude, that was going on last year.

2117
01:52:58,240 --> 01:53:00,720
Speaker 4: I know that wasn't look as much much as I

2118
01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:06,400
Speaker 4: do blame the coaching staff and the NFL in general

2119
01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:11,160
Speaker 4: for allowing a player that discombobulated to return to play

2120
01:53:11,320 --> 01:53:15,559
Speaker 4: another snap, especially in the climate we're in now.

2121
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:19,719
Speaker 1: I mean, that's ridiculous, But that was Tua's decision.

2122
01:53:20,000 --> 01:53:22,280
Speaker 4: Like, Tua was not going to be taken out of

2123
01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 4: that game and he didn't want to sit for the

2124
01:53:25,360 --> 01:53:28,320
Speaker 4: upcoming game. Now somebody needs to step in and protect

2125
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:31,599
Speaker 4: him from himself. And at the end of the day, yeah,

2126
01:53:32,120 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniel's the head coach, so heavy is the head

2127
01:53:34,520 --> 01:53:38,120
Speaker 4: that wears the crown. That's your decision to make ultimately,

2128
01:53:38,400 --> 01:53:43,240
Speaker 4: But in terms of, you know, every other decision made essentially,

2129
01:53:43,840 --> 01:53:46,320
Speaker 4: I support Mike McDaniel and how he's been able to

2130
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:48,360
Speaker 4: turn around the culture in Miami.

2131
01:53:48,840 --> 01:53:51,479
Speaker 1: It didn't feel like a lot of guys love to

2132
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:52,320
Speaker 1: play in Miami.

2133
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 4: When Brian Flores was there, he was definitely not not

2134
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:59,519
Speaker 4: far rolled away in terms of the apple from the

2135
01:53:59,640 --> 01:54:03,920
Speaker 4: tree from he he's a Belichick disciple. He made a

2136
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:08,760
Speaker 4: hard environment that was a tough workplace. McDaniel, I think

2137
01:54:08,880 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 4: his attitude matches the current NFL way better and his.

2138
01:54:15,200 --> 01:54:16,599
Speaker 1: Success speaks for itself.

2139
01:54:17,360 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 3: Well, they did give a good playoffs last year.

2140
01:54:19,439 --> 01:54:22,120
Speaker 2: Barely remember they had a five game losing streak late

2141
01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,760
Speaker 2: in the season, held on to wild cards, played competitive

2142
01:54:25,800 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 2: against the Bills.

2143
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 1: And by the way, with Skyler Thompson at quarterback, I know, and.

2144
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:32,320
Speaker 2: By the way, he looked good the other what he

2145
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:34,040
Speaker 2: had three touchdown passes yesterday.

2146
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 3: A pretty good quarterback. I don't know, he's their best quarterback.

2147
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:38,600
Speaker 3: I'm quite sure.

2148
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 2: I mean, all right, so there you go again. If

2149
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:44,560
Speaker 2: I were to wage on which team would be the under,

2150
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Miami. Certainly, New England is on the cusp.

2151
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 2: But the Buffalo also is the one thing we do

2152
01:54:51,000 --> 01:54:53,720
Speaker 2: agree on though, Jets. Jets are going to win at

2153
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,320
Speaker 2: least ten games, folks, Jets are gonna win at least

2154
01:54:56,720 --> 01:54:57,200
Speaker 2: ten games.

2155
01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:57,520
Speaker 1: All right.

2156
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,840
Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, well, take a little rest,

2157
01:54:59,840 --> 01:55:01,920
Speaker 2: but we still got to get to the NFC East.

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Speaker 2: But there's one other sports story outside of football we've

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Speaker 2: got to get to.

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Speaker 3: You find out what it is.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvey, Rich Harberger, Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Sunday Live from the Tire Rack dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Coming up in our next hour Arembly insider John Paul

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Speaker 2: Morosi JP, it's going to be joining us as dog

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Speaker 2: days of summer, and he toured the backside of August

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Speaker 2: and down the stretch in September getting interesting in Major

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Speaker 2: League Baseball.

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Speaker 3: Let me have a question for you, Rich, not football related.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, ma'am, would you.

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Speaker 3: Want James Harden on your basketball team?

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Speaker 10: Oh? Boy?

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Speaker 4: I mean, look here, here's here's another thing that will

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Speaker 4: circulate and people will have extremely strong opinions about for

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Speaker 4: obvious reasons. But in a locker room, you know, if

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01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:10,920
Speaker 4: a guy is a good guy but you disagree with

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01:56:11,040 --> 01:56:15,640
Speaker 4: him politically, you find a way to get along with

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Speaker 4: him as long as he's a good guy. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if he's a jerk, then I mean, look, you are

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Speaker 4: who you are, if you're just that type of guy

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01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:28,120
Speaker 4: who kind of shrugs people off and treats people rudely.

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01:56:28,520 --> 01:56:30,920
Speaker 4: And I played with a bunch of those guys, and

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01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:33,880
Speaker 4: you know what, honestly, I mean, if you and I

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01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,640
Speaker 4: were talking privately, I could name them by name because

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01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:40,240
Speaker 4: there weren't a ton of them, but nobody was friends

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01:56:40,280 --> 01:56:43,520
Speaker 4: with them. You know, you found a way to coexist

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01:56:43,600 --> 01:56:46,320
Speaker 4: with them, but nobody's friends with them. James Harden doesn't

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01:56:46,400 --> 01:56:49,800
Speaker 4: give the vibe that he's a complete jerk. So if

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Speaker 4: James Harden signed with the team or was traded to

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Speaker 4: the team that I was playing on, as long as

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Speaker 4: he wasn't a jerk to me, yeah, I would be

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01:56:59,680 --> 01:57:02,920
Speaker 4: fine with it, because that's not what I'm there to do,

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Speaker 4: is judge him based on his personal beliefs. My job

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Speaker 4: is to find a way to coexist with him, find

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Speaker 4: a way to relate to him on a human level,

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Speaker 4: find a way to be his teammate. And I'm confident

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Speaker 4: that I would be able.

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Speaker 2: To do that, all right, So here's here's the problem

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Speaker 2: I have with this. So the Daryl Mourray situation calling

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Speaker 2: him out as a liar has now opened up an

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01:57:25,600 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 2: NBA investigation, of course, because what he's accusing Maury is

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Speaker 2: simply this that he signed a lesser deal with a

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Speaker 2: guarantee that there was going to be a bigger deal

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01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 2: on the other side, in other words, to make sure

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01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:44,080
Speaker 2: that they could fit everything in cap wise, because they

2205
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 2: are saddled with playing Tobias Hairs thirty nine million dollars

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Speaker 2: this upcoming season. That some kind of deal was done here.

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01:57:51,080 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 2: Here's where James Harden is losing track of reality. So

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01:57:55,520 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 2: these super max deals are predicated on your ability to

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Speaker 2: show up on the All NBA first, second, or third teams,

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Speaker 2: something he has not done the last three seasons. He

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01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:09,240
Speaker 2: hasn't been first, second, or third team All NBA since

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty season, so he's on the down side

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Speaker 2: of his career. I have a real problem with a guy.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he had a problem with Maury, he

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01:58:18,040 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 2: could certainly talk about it behind closed doors. He could

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01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:24,480
Speaker 2: still have a public persona that he's not happy with

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01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 2: his situation in Philadelphia. He can do a lot of things,

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01:58:27,720 --> 01:58:29,960
Speaker 2: you know, and wow, I'm not happy here. I don't

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01:58:29,960 --> 01:58:31,880
Speaker 2: want to play here. I went out. That's all fine.

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Speaker 2: But when you do something that suddenly puts the league

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01:58:38,680 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 2: on alert that something may have happened that was not kosher,

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01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,880
Speaker 2: that's not cool. That's a guy that is showing that

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01:58:47,080 --> 01:58:53,040
Speaker 2: he is only about himself, because it has an adverse effect,

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01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:56,360
Speaker 2: not just on Maury, it has an adverse effect on

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01:58:56,440 --> 01:58:58,120
Speaker 2: the entire organization well.

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Speaker 1: The goal of the.

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Speaker 4: League's inquiry is to determine whether Hardin was suggesting that

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01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:07,200
Speaker 4: he would begin the whold out right, which, like you mentioned,

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01:59:07,480 --> 01:59:09,640
Speaker 4: is a violation of the CBA, or if he was

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Speaker 4: referencing previous discussions.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I look, this is the burden of proof.

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Speaker 3: That's not a teammate I want.

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Speaker 4: I know, but the burden of proof is so hard, Like,

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Speaker 4: I mean, what you're talking about, is we suspect that

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01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:30,760
Speaker 4: you were talking about this? He's gonna say, well, I wasn't,

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01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:34,840
Speaker 4: and then this is all gonna go away unless more

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01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:38,600
Speaker 4: evidence is available and they have transcripts of a conversation

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Speaker 4: where he spoke with media people's privately, where he divulged

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Speaker 4: more of his thought process.

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Speaker 2: Well then, well then outside of that this goes away. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but where is this guy happy? I mean, if everything

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01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 2: is not revolving around him, he's not happy. It's not

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Speaker 2: just Philadelphia, it's everywhere he's been.

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01:59:56,640 --> 01:59:57,400
Speaker 1: No, no, I get it.

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01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,520
Speaker 2: I mean member with Houston, where he had all his

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01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:04,480
Speaker 2: greatest success, he like purposely got out of shape to

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Speaker 2: force their hand.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry.

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02:00:06,680 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 2: Look at James Harden's had a Hall of Fame career,

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Speaker 2: deserving of a spot on that seventy fifth anniversary team,

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Speaker 2: but not a teammate.

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Speaker 3: I would want all right.

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Speaker 2: Coming up on the other side, we get back to

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Speaker 2: the NFC East and we'll talk some baseball. This is

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So far, so good.

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Speaker 2: As far as the weather and SoCal, But they keep

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02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:32,440
Speaker 2: telling us Rich the worst is yet to come as

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Speaker 2: Hurricane Hillary. Now tropical storm has invaded southern California once again.

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Speaker 2: how is the weather down there in Sandie right now?

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Speaker 4: Say?

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Speaker 1: Steady?

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Speaker 4: Same it's been all day. Yeah, We've we've had light,

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Speaker 4: steady rain. It hasn't been a torrential downpour at any point, wind,

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Speaker 4: but nothing that you know, I hadn't seen all winter

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Speaker 4: or spring from this last year. Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 4: know they're they're saying the worst is yet to come,

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Speaker 4: but that's quite literally the same exact thing they were

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Speaker 4: saying yesterday when this was on its way.

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Speaker 1: So I look, I'm hopeful.

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Speaker 4: I know that there's a lot of people out there

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Speaker 4: who have concern for people in southern California. Again, I

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Speaker 4: live in one, you know, area of San Diego that's

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Speaker 4: not representative to how much rain they're getting in the

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Speaker 4: mountains or the deserts. If you have family in other places,

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Speaker 4: you should check in on them. But you know, in

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Speaker 4: in San Diego near the beach, where we're not seeing

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Speaker 4: the level of destruction and devastation that was being anticipated.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, here in La very similar.

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Speaker 2: We've had steady rain, sometimes a little bit harder, but

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Speaker 2: nothing downpour yet. But again I was told by our

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Speaker 2: weather guy that the worst is coming this afternoon. And

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Speaker 2: again we still have scheduled this Chargers Saints preseason game

2289
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Speaker 2: that will be kicking off in three hours, so we'll

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Speaker 2: see how the weather goes. And you say, well, they

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Speaker 2: play indoors, so far as not an indoor stadium. It

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Speaker 2: just has a roof over the.

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Speaker 3: Top of it.

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Speaker 2: By the way, football fans out the return of our

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Speaker 3: We're back this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to tune in to Fox Sports Radio every

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Speaker 2: Saturday and Sunday morning three hours before kickoff. For now,

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Speaker 2: all the way through Super Bowl Sunday. On Saturdays, Brian No,

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Speaker 2: former Penn State All American, Rich Ornberger and betting analysts

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Speaker 2: Jared Smith will walk you right up to the college

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Speaker 2: football kickoffs. Then on Sundays, Brian No, eight year NFL

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Speaker 2: veteran Jeff Schwartz at Professional Better Bill crack Krackenberger will

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Speaker 2: lead you right up to the early NFL kickoffs, actually

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Speaker 2: lead off to our Sunday show. You can listen to

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Speaker 2: count down to Kickoff weekend mornings right here on Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio on the iHeartRadio app. And yes, next Saturday, Rich,

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Speaker 2: you guys will actually be talking about college football games.

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Speaker 3: Week zero is next Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I am absolutely pumped.

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Speaker 4: Gonna be exciting getting back into all of our normal features. Yes,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, it's it's already off to the races. We

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Speaker 4: did some of our futures, you know, some of the

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Speaker 4: longer odds outlooks, you know, in terms of national championships

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Speaker 4: and Heisman's and things of that nature. And then yeah,

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Speaker 4: coming up next Saturday, we're gonna have a Notre Dame Navy,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna have USC San Jose State. It's going to

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Speaker 4: be it's gonna be a jam Pack show.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna have John Paul Morossi is gonna

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Speaker 2: be joining us here coming up in about fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: I do want to jump on this NFC East and

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02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:05,680
Speaker 2: again we've been talking some over unders, best plays maybe

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Speaker 2: teams stay away from because they're just too unpredictable. For

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Speaker 2: this upcoming season, the NFC East is not getting a

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Speaker 2: whole lot of respect out of Vegas. So this is

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Speaker 2: a division again that a year ago had the NFC

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Speaker 2: champion in the Philadelphia Eagles. They also had a twelve

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Speaker 2: win team in the Dallas Cowboys, and the Giants were

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs, won a playoff game a year ago.

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Speaker 2: And then we'll get to the Commanders or whatever they're

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Speaker 2: going to be called in the future. Right now, I

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Speaker 2: want to start with the Dallas Cowboys. So a year ago,

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys won twelve games. The over under on

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Speaker 2: the Cowboys is nine and a half. Now, again, when

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Speaker 2: I see that kind of discrepancy from a twelve win season,

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Speaker 2: and you're telling me that if I if they win

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Speaker 2: ten games.

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Speaker 3: And I bet the over, I win, I win.

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Speaker 2: This is why this is why Vegas is so good,

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Speaker 2: you know, Yeah, because when you look at that number,

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Speaker 2: you're like, I mean, shouldn't it be at least like

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Speaker 2: ten and a half for team the one to twelve?

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Speaker 1: Gat?

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Speaker 2: Why is it only nine and a half. So let's

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Speaker 2: get in the head because you do this a lot

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Speaker 2: more than I do. Why is that number so low?

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Speaker 2: What could there be a concern that, according to Vegas

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Speaker 2: they'll be lucky to be a five hundred team this year.

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Speaker 1: Man, I'm gonna be honest with you.

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Speaker 4: Your guess is as good as mine on this one.

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02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:58,080
Speaker 4: I think Dak is probably an undervalued quarterback in terms

2353
02:05:58,160 --> 02:06:01,800
Speaker 4: of what NFL fans and maybe the sports betters believe

2354
02:06:01,880 --> 02:06:06,840
Speaker 4: him to be. But Dak is a talented quarterback. Dak

2355
02:06:07,080 --> 02:06:09,520
Speaker 4: is a Tier two quarterback who flirts with being a

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Speaker 4: Tier one quarterback on an annual basis. I mean, there

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Speaker 4: are advanced analytics that you look at and you say, geez,

2358
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Speaker 4: you knowk Dak's special. Now, don't get me wrong, I

2359
02:06:21,040 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 4: think he needs to do a much better job of

2360
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Speaker 4: protecting the football. And I also think that making a

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02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:29,480
Speaker 4: major change in your offense in terms of who's calling

2362
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:32,160
Speaker 4: the plays is going to have an effect. Whether that's

2363
02:06:32,240 --> 02:06:36,640
Speaker 4: positive or negative. We'll see, but Kellen Moore, he was

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02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:40,560
Speaker 4: replaced by Mike McCarthy. More is now the offensive coordinator

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Speaker 4: in Los Angeles with the Chargers, and Mike McCarthy will

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Speaker 4: take over play calling circumstances. But if they are meshing

2367
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 4: well this offseason and you head into and they've worked

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Speaker 4: together well for the past couple of years now three

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Speaker 4: years since McCarthy has gotten to Dallas, then I see

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02:07:01,960 --> 02:07:05,800
Speaker 4: no reason why this Dallas team can't perform like they

2371
02:07:05,880 --> 02:07:11,160
Speaker 4: did last year or better. Their defense is tremendous. They

2372
02:07:11,240 --> 02:07:14,840
Speaker 4: have arguably the best defensive player in the year of

2373
02:07:15,040 --> 02:07:19,240
Speaker 4: the year with Micah Parsons. He's going to be focusing

2374
02:07:19,360 --> 02:07:23,080
Speaker 4: on becoming an edge rusher only this year. I think

2375
02:07:23,160 --> 02:07:27,320
Speaker 4: that's actually a pretty smart decision. We're gonna see Tony Pollard, who,

2376
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:30,680
Speaker 4: by the way, didn't have a Josh Jacobs situation like

2377
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,600
Speaker 4: Vegas is dealing with. He signed his tag. He's ready

2378
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:36,280
Speaker 4: to go for this season. They have weapons all over

2379
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:40,560
Speaker 4: this offense. Look, the offensive line has struggled to, you know,

2380
02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 4: find their bearings in recent years, and that is that

2381
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:47,200
Speaker 4: is there's some some real concern there. But if they

2382
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:49,800
Speaker 4: protect Dak, if they open holes for Tony Pollard, who

2383
02:07:49,880 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 4: is inarguably the more productive running back out of that

2384
02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:57,160
Speaker 4: backfield last year, and these playmakers that are sprinkled around

2385
02:07:57,200 --> 02:08:00,600
Speaker 4: this offense show up for Dak. Yeah, I think this

2386
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:02,080
Speaker 4: number is artificially low.

2387
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Speaker 2: Well, remember this, No team has repeated as NFC East

2388
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:09,480
Speaker 2: champions since two thousand and four. And if there's going

2389
02:08:09,560 --> 02:08:13,520
Speaker 2: to be a team to dethrone the Eagles, it's the Cowboys.

2390
02:08:13,640 --> 02:08:14,320
Speaker 3: I agree with you.

2391
02:08:14,480 --> 02:08:16,880
Speaker 2: I mean, nine and a half just seems remarkably low.

2392
02:08:16,960 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 2: That's why I'm trying to figure out where they're coming

2393
02:08:19,360 --> 02:08:22,480
Speaker 2: up with that number. But I would definitely play the over. Now,

2394
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:25,400
Speaker 2: another team in the NFC East that made the playoffs

2395
02:08:25,400 --> 02:08:28,240
Speaker 2: a year ago won a playoff game knocking off that

2396
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:31,280
Speaker 2: Vikings team was the Giants. They go nine to seven

2397
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:34,200
Speaker 2: and one, they get into the postseason. Brian Dable was

2398
02:08:34,320 --> 02:08:37,040
Speaker 2: definitely on everyone's list for Coach of the Year honors.

2399
02:08:38,040 --> 02:08:41,400
Speaker 2: So what does Vegas think of them over under seven

2400
02:08:41,480 --> 02:08:45,800
Speaker 2: and a half? Yeah, so again Vegas is saying, yeah,

2401
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:49,280
Speaker 2: that was that wasn't real. They're going to take a

2402
02:08:49,320 --> 02:08:52,440
Speaker 2: big step back. So you know, seven and a half's

2403
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:55,080
Speaker 2: the same number I gave you a new England. Can

2404
02:08:55,160 --> 02:08:58,560
Speaker 2: you see Brian Dable and this Giants team losing ten games?

2405
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:00,280
Speaker 4: No?

2406
02:09:01,160 --> 02:09:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

2407
02:09:02,760 --> 02:09:05,600
Speaker 4: I again, this is another team that I have a

2408
02:09:05,640 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 4: lot of belief in Brian Dable. Yea, yeah, Look they

2409
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:14,640
Speaker 4: had rave reviews out of the draft. Adding Darren Waller

2410
02:09:14,720 --> 02:09:18,840
Speaker 4: another weapon that teams have to contend with defensively on

2411
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:21,360
Speaker 4: that offense, you know, so it's not going to be

2412
02:09:21,960 --> 02:09:25,800
Speaker 4: you know, steady on the shoulders of Saquon Barkley to

2413
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:30,400
Speaker 4: make this thing go. I mean, and also, let's just

2414
02:09:30,480 --> 02:09:34,919
Speaker 4: think about progress like we always view things as static

2415
02:09:35,600 --> 02:09:38,560
Speaker 4: with with you know, our assumptions about things in the NFL,

2416
02:09:39,200 --> 02:09:41,400
Speaker 4: like and what I mean by that is nothing stays

2417
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:46,520
Speaker 4: the same, Like everything's a moving target. Josh Allen wasn't

2418
02:09:46,600 --> 02:09:47,920
Speaker 4: Josh Allen his rookie year.

2419
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:50,640
Speaker 1: He progressed under Brian Dable.

2420
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 4: He got better and he got better and better and

2421
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:56,000
Speaker 4: better until the point where people are like, oh my goodness,

2422
02:09:56,040 --> 02:09:58,480
Speaker 4: the Bills need to be taken seriously as a very

2423
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:02,560
Speaker 4: as a he has a high potential team to compete

2424
02:10:02,560 --> 02:10:05,600
Speaker 4: for a Super Bowl during this window. Well, I'm not

2425
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:08,879
Speaker 4: saying that Brian Dabole is going to turn Daniel Jones

2426
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:13,040
Speaker 4: into Josh Allen. But Daniel Jones has a lot of

2427
02:10:13,120 --> 02:10:15,080
Speaker 4: skills that are similar to Allan.

2428
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:17,320
Speaker 1: He doesn't have as.

2429
02:10:17,200 --> 02:10:20,000
Speaker 4: Big of an arm, but he certainly can run. Daniel

2430
02:10:20,080 --> 02:10:22,880
Speaker 4: Jones is fast man, and he creates with his legs

2431
02:10:22,920 --> 02:10:25,160
Speaker 4: outside the pocket and in the run game he can

2432
02:10:25,240 --> 02:10:28,840
Speaker 4: devastate you. Again, like I said, he's not the same

2433
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:32,640
Speaker 4: howitzer for an arm quarterback that Josh Allen is, but

2434
02:10:33,080 --> 02:10:36,680
Speaker 4: he can be deadly accurate in clutch moments. We saw

2435
02:10:36,720 --> 02:10:39,280
Speaker 4: a lot of that last year with the Giants. So

2436
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 4: if they build off of the success that they had

2437
02:10:42,160 --> 02:10:44,560
Speaker 4: a year ago offensively, plus you at a piece like

2438
02:10:44,640 --> 02:10:47,000
Speaker 4: Darren Waller. Yeah, I'm pretty high on the Giants this

2439
02:10:47,120 --> 02:10:47,600
Speaker 4: year as well.

2440
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 2: I'm in lockstep with both these teams. I mean again,

2441
02:10:51,480 --> 02:10:55,400
Speaker 2: Dallas over nine and a half, oh yeah, Giants over

2442
02:10:55,760 --> 02:11:01,040
Speaker 2: seven and a half. Yeah, those two numbers seem awfully

2443
02:11:01,120 --> 02:11:05,080
Speaker 2: low for those two NFC rivals, NFC East rivals. All right,

2444
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:07,920
Speaker 2: later on we'll talk about the Eagles and of course

2445
02:11:08,040 --> 02:11:09,960
Speaker 2: the Washington whatever you want to call them.

2446
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:11,520
Speaker 3: All Right, we'll figure that out down.

2447
02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:12,920
Speaker 2: The road, but it will take a little break from

2448
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:15,000
Speaker 2: this because on the other side, we're gonna check in

2449
02:11:15,080 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 2: with our MLB insider, John Paul Morosi, will join us next. Oh, yes, swell,

2450
02:11:21,680 --> 02:11:25,200
Speaker 2: we had a low rain, but so far not too bad.

2451
02:11:25,760 --> 02:11:29,120
Speaker 2: Steve Harvin rich Rnberger, Fox Sports Sunday. We are live

2452
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:33,320
Speaker 2: from the Tyraq dot Com studios. While we've been talking

2453
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:37,280
Speaker 2: pretty much NonStop NFL today because while we're chomping at

2454
02:11:37,320 --> 02:11:40,000
Speaker 2: the bed. But let's switch gears right now, get to

2455
02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:43,840
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball, the dog days this summer as we

2456
02:11:43,920 --> 02:11:45,800
Speaker 2: get through the month of August and then on to

2457
02:11:45,920 --> 02:11:48,360
Speaker 2: the big stretch in September. Joining us right now is

2458
02:11:48,440 --> 02:11:53,720
Speaker 2: our Fox Sports Radio MLB insider John Paul Morosi.

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Speaker 3: JPR. You as ready for the football season as we are.

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02:11:59,040 --> 02:12:02,560
Speaker 10: I'm excited, gentlemen, and thanks as always for the conversation

2461
02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:05,960
Speaker 10: on a Sunday afternoon. I'm excited for football, but today

2462
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:10,040
Speaker 10: I've got to tell you I'm especially excited for baseball

2463
02:12:10,160 --> 02:12:14,880
Speaker 10: because I am in Williamsport, Pennsylvania, the sixth MLB Little

2464
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:19,120
Speaker 10: League Classic. If you ever, if you ever feel that

2465
02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:23,800
Speaker 10: revival of passion for our national pastime, come right here,

2466
02:12:24,240 --> 02:12:27,760
Speaker 10: because to be around the Little League World Series participants

2467
02:12:28,120 --> 02:12:30,480
Speaker 10: and then to see the way that the major league

2468
02:12:30,560 --> 02:12:34,480
Speaker 10: players interact with them and have their own twelve year

2469
02:12:34,520 --> 02:12:37,960
Speaker 10: old selves revived. The passion they've got for baseball is

2470
02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:41,840
Speaker 10: just so invigorating and enlightening and just all the great

2471
02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:43,880
Speaker 10: things about the game that we love. So you've got

2472
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:47,320
Speaker 10: Philly's the Nationals tonight seven pm, and then next year

2473
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:51,040
Speaker 10: we know the Yankees and the Tigers here in Williams Sports.

2474
02:12:51,080 --> 02:12:53,360
Speaker 10: So it's a tremendous event and I'm so glad to

2475
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:56,320
Speaker 10: know that now it's continuing for at least one more year.

2476
02:12:57,600 --> 02:13:01,080
Speaker 3: Can I just jump in very quickly here, Rich, you

2477
02:13:01,160 --> 02:13:03,880
Speaker 3: know what you're saying. The numbers don't lie.

2478
02:13:04,800 --> 02:13:07,120
Speaker 2: This has been Although we've been talking about, you know,

2479
02:13:07,320 --> 02:13:11,160
Speaker 2: obviously Rich, with the Padres disaster, the Mets disaster, the

2480
02:13:11,280 --> 02:13:15,800
Speaker 2: Yankees disaster this year, this has been a really positive

2481
02:13:15,920 --> 02:13:17,800
Speaker 2: year for Major League Baseball.

2482
02:13:18,040 --> 02:13:19,040
Speaker 3: Numbers are up.

2483
02:13:19,320 --> 02:13:25,040
Speaker 2: Interest is up when we talk about the turnaround for

2484
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:28,920
Speaker 2: this sport and the drastic changes they made to make

2485
02:13:29,000 --> 02:13:30,760
Speaker 2: it a more watchable sport.

2486
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:33,160
Speaker 3: Could you see this coming?

2487
02:13:33,240 --> 02:13:37,200
Speaker 2: Because the knock on baseball has always been hanging on

2488
02:13:37,360 --> 02:13:40,560
Speaker 2: to tradition, like we don't want to change the game,

2489
02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:42,600
Speaker 2: and they've changed.

2490
02:13:42,280 --> 02:13:46,040
Speaker 3: It with some sweeping moves this year. How did that happen?

2491
02:13:46,080 --> 02:13:48,480
Speaker 3: Really was I mean just sweeping changes.

2492
02:13:49,120 --> 02:13:51,040
Speaker 10: It's a great point. It's a great point. A couple

2493
02:13:51,080 --> 02:13:55,040
Speaker 10: of things there. Number one, Even as someone who loves

2494
02:13:55,080 --> 02:13:57,040
Speaker 10: the game and is around the game all the time,

2495
02:13:57,600 --> 02:14:00,440
Speaker 10: it happened a lot more quickly than I thought it

2496
02:14:00,560 --> 02:14:04,760
Speaker 10: would in terms of how the change of the playing

2497
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:10,000
Speaker 10: rules has created an entirely different and better product, how

2498
02:14:10,040 --> 02:14:13,280
Speaker 10: it's brought the fans back. Commissioner Manfred just within the

2499
02:14:13,360 --> 02:14:17,560
Speaker 10: last week mentioned that attendance is up nine percent yep

2500
02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:22,480
Speaker 10: year over year. That's a huge number. That means that

2501
02:14:22,920 --> 02:14:27,879
Speaker 10: in every stadium, you've got thousands more fans on average

2502
02:14:28,360 --> 02:14:31,840
Speaker 10: in the ballpark every game than you had a year ago.

2503
02:14:32,240 --> 02:14:35,400
Speaker 10: And that is a tremendous point of bride, I think

2504
02:14:35,440 --> 02:14:38,200
Speaker 10: for the sport. It also, to me is important that

2505
02:14:38,280 --> 02:14:44,720
Speaker 10: you're seeing markets like Cincinnati, Baltimore really revivals of their

2506
02:14:45,120 --> 02:14:49,720
Speaker 10: baseball passion. You're seeing Seattle follow up on last year's

2507
02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:53,000
Speaker 10: playoff birth. They hosts the Alsar game this year. Julio

2508
02:14:53,080 --> 02:14:55,680
Speaker 10: Rodriguez apparently over the last week has not made any

2509
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:59,880
Speaker 10: outs and they're playing great baseball too. So it was

2510
02:15:00,160 --> 02:15:04,920
Speaker 10: really a continuation of excitement that I'm rolling on from

2511
02:15:04,960 --> 02:15:08,120
Speaker 10: one to the next. And I also believe too, and

2512
02:15:08,160 --> 02:15:09,920
Speaker 10: the commissioner made this point. I think it's a fair

2513
02:15:09,960 --> 02:15:14,120
Speaker 10: one to make. Remember back to the investment that MLB

2514
02:15:14,200 --> 02:15:16,160
Speaker 10: has made in the youth side of the game, whether

2515
02:15:16,240 --> 02:15:19,840
Speaker 10: it's the Little League Classic which started back in twenty seventeen,

2516
02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:23,560
Speaker 10: the MLB develops program which is really focused on diversifying

2517
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:28,280
Speaker 10: the player pool and eventually the fan pool, because yes,

2518
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,760
Speaker 10: you want to develop the next generation of Major League players,

2519
02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:34,640
Speaker 10: but far much more within your purview is to develop

2520
02:15:34,720 --> 02:15:38,440
Speaker 10: the next generation of Major League fans. And so when

2521
02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:41,320
Speaker 10: you consider that the efforts that began in twenty sixteen,

2522
02:15:41,360 --> 02:15:44,880
Speaker 10: twenty seventeen, if you were twelve at that time, you're

2523
02:15:44,920 --> 02:15:47,760
Speaker 10: now a college student. And so we're starting to see

2524
02:15:47,840 --> 02:15:53,360
Speaker 10: now adults who had their youth baseball experience really revitalized

2525
02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:55,120
Speaker 10: by the way that MLB has gone about things in

2526
02:15:55,200 --> 02:15:57,520
Speaker 10: the last six or seven years. So I think at

2527
02:15:57,560 --> 02:15:59,880
Speaker 10: the tremendous point of pride. I've got my family with

2528
02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:02,640
Speaker 10: here in Central FA this weekend. We're having a blast,

2529
02:16:03,080 --> 02:16:05,320
Speaker 10: and Rich I gotta tell you, we're going to be

2530
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:09,400
Speaker 10: driving through your beautiful Alma Maters campus tomorrow, and it

2531
02:16:09,560 --> 02:16:12,720
Speaker 10: is like a tradition for me when I leave this event.

2532
02:16:12,760 --> 02:16:15,120
Speaker 10: I've been privileged to cover this event six times now

2533
02:16:15,680 --> 02:16:19,760
Speaker 10: that my end of summer event is. I leave for

2534
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:22,800
Speaker 10: Williamsport in the morning on the Monday after the games,

2535
02:16:23,160 --> 02:16:25,560
Speaker 10: and I stop at the creamery and have some ice

2536
02:16:25,560 --> 02:16:27,720
Speaker 10: stream in State College. So I'm gonna be going back

2537
02:16:27,760 --> 02:16:32,440
Speaker 10: there again tomorrow. Yeah, let your friends know. I'm considering

2538
02:16:32,480 --> 02:16:35,240
Speaker 10: it my dry run for the fall. I'm gonna be there.

2539
02:16:35,360 --> 02:16:38,240
Speaker 10: I love your beautiful campus. I gotta tell you. It

2540
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:40,280
Speaker 10: is one of the most gorgeous campuses we've got in

2541
02:16:40,320 --> 02:16:42,760
Speaker 10: our country. And so whenever I get a chance to

2542
02:16:42,800 --> 02:16:44,400
Speaker 10: go to State College, I take it. So I will

2543
02:16:44,440 --> 02:16:45,760
Speaker 10: be at the creamery tomorrow morning.

2544
02:16:46,000 --> 02:16:48,040
Speaker 4: You name the Penn State game you want to go to,

2545
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:52,240
Speaker 4: I'll make it happen, all right, brother, I would avoid the.

2546
02:16:52,320 --> 02:16:54,400
Speaker 1: Michigan game because you would not want to see your

2547
02:16:54,440 --> 02:16:55,280
Speaker 1: team lose. Though.

2548
02:16:55,600 --> 02:17:01,440
Speaker 10: Wow wow, I just say that now, and Rich I

2549
02:17:02,200 --> 02:17:04,440
Speaker 10: appreciate that. I want to make this point though about

2550
02:17:04,480 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 10: Penn State. I did see the first and certainly I've

2551
02:17:07,959 --> 02:17:10,120
Speaker 10: been very base one focused, as you guys know, but

2552
02:17:10,280 --> 02:17:13,320
Speaker 10: I did see the first version of the ap Top

2553
02:17:13,400 --> 02:17:17,480
Speaker 10: twenty five full. I believe we've got three current Big

2554
02:17:17,600 --> 02:17:20,320
Speaker 10: ten teams in there. We've got Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State,

2555
02:17:20,600 --> 02:17:22,880
Speaker 10: and obviously once you add in all of the schools

2556
02:17:22,920 --> 02:17:25,800
Speaker 10: that are joining, I think we've got something like twelve

2557
02:17:25,879 --> 02:17:27,680
Speaker 10: of the top ten teams I believe are in the

2558
02:17:27,720 --> 02:17:29,840
Speaker 10: Big Ten. The math on that might be a little

2559
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:32,320
Speaker 10: bit fuzzy, but it's we're in a different time with

2560
02:17:32,440 --> 02:17:35,680
Speaker 10: respect mathematics and conference same. But I do believe that

2561
02:17:35,760 --> 02:17:39,000
Speaker 10: we've got a very strong Big Ten representation in the

2562
02:17:39,080 --> 02:17:41,720
Speaker 10: top ten, including Penn State and Michigan.

2563
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:42,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got that.

2564
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:47,560
Speaker 4: We got kickoff a twelve noon kickoff between the Wolverines

2565
02:17:47,800 --> 02:17:50,760
Speaker 4: and Penn State and Indie Lyons November eleventh, So.

2566
02:17:51,280 --> 02:17:53,280
Speaker 1: Looking forward to that one. JP.

2567
02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:58,360
Speaker 4: You mentioned it briefly there about the Orioles and the

2568
02:17:58,480 --> 02:18:02,400
Speaker 4: renewed fan base fervor over what Baltimore has been able

2569
02:18:02,480 --> 02:18:05,400
Speaker 4: to do this season. A young, fun team to watch

2570
02:18:06,520 --> 02:18:10,160
Speaker 4: in a Al East that you would assume would would

2571
02:18:10,200 --> 02:18:13,400
Speaker 4: make quick work of a young, untested group.

2572
02:18:13,480 --> 02:18:20,320
Speaker 1: But the Yankees. The Yankees are spiraling seven straight consecutive loss.

2573
02:18:21,959 --> 02:18:27,119
Speaker 4: A below five hundred record on the year, eight games

2574
02:18:27,240 --> 02:18:29,920
Speaker 4: back of the wild card chase in the AL. I mean,

2575
02:18:30,400 --> 02:18:32,760
Speaker 4: it's been a disaster for them, and I know Boone

2576
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:35,240
Speaker 4: had the toe or excuse me, Judge had the toe

2577
02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:39,160
Speaker 4: injury and Boone's not making excuses, but they kind of

2578
02:18:39,240 --> 02:18:41,960
Speaker 4: had that. You know, Hey, let's figure this out. Meeting

2579
02:18:42,080 --> 02:18:46,160
Speaker 4: with Steinbrenner and Cashman and Boone. What do you think

2580
02:18:46,200 --> 02:18:48,320
Speaker 4: will be the outcome of the Yankee season if they

2581
02:18:48,400 --> 02:18:51,720
Speaker 4: stay on a trajectory like they're currently on. Could there

2582
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:55,119
Speaker 4: be could there be major moves like could could Aaron

2583
02:18:55,160 --> 02:18:58,600
Speaker 4: Boone lose the job? Could there be big name players

2584
02:18:58,680 --> 02:19:01,880
Speaker 4: being moved along from What would you say would be

2585
02:19:01,959 --> 02:19:05,360
Speaker 4: the most likely outcome if they stay on this path

2586
02:19:05,520 --> 02:19:08,680
Speaker 4: of really the spiral they've been on.

2587
02:19:10,280 --> 02:19:12,400
Speaker 10: Richard's a great question. I think it's gonna be one

2588
02:19:12,400 --> 02:19:15,360
Speaker 10: of the key questions of the entire offseason because to

2589
02:19:15,440 --> 02:19:20,959
Speaker 10: your point, I don't see this correcting itself. They are

2590
02:19:21,120 --> 02:19:23,560
Speaker 10: chances of making the playoffs now are under one percent.

2591
02:19:23,760 --> 02:19:27,080
Speaker 10: Now they will they will win the game, Okay, but

2592
02:19:27,440 --> 02:19:28,960
Speaker 10: between now and the end of the season. I know

2593
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:32,440
Speaker 10: it doesn't feel that way to Yankee fans, but they

2594
02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:36,600
Speaker 10: are an average team. They are a very average team.

2595
02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:42,080
Speaker 10: They're a good team when Judge is playing like an MVP,

2596
02:19:42,360 --> 02:19:44,880
Speaker 10: one of the greatest players we've ever seen. When he's

2597
02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:50,359
Speaker 10: playing like that, they're okay. But when he's either injured

2598
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:54,560
Speaker 10: or merely playing like an All Star, they don't have

2599
02:19:54,879 --> 02:19:58,720
Speaker 10: enough depth. They've got Aaron Judge, Garrett Cole, and then

2600
02:19:59,280 --> 02:20:00,720
Speaker 10: they don't have a whole a lot of other top

2601
02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:05,200
Speaker 10: performers at the moment. And this is where I really

2602
02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:08,480
Speaker 10: want to make the point and make it clear. This

2603
02:20:08,680 --> 02:20:11,520
Speaker 10: is a sport for teams that have death, for teams

2604
02:20:11,600 --> 02:20:16,199
Speaker 10: that build strong rosters that allow you to withstand injury.

2605
02:20:16,840 --> 02:20:19,800
Speaker 10: And there is no such thing as a team that

2606
02:20:19,879 --> 02:20:22,760
Speaker 10: gets through six or seven months of baseball with the

2607
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:26,400
Speaker 10: same twenty six players. You're going to have injuries. The

2608
02:20:26,560 --> 02:20:30,560
Speaker 10: Yankees problem is that the guys they've signed to be stars,

2609
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:34,879
Speaker 10: namely Carlos Rodon is barely pitched this year, and when

2610
02:20:34,879 --> 02:20:38,600
Speaker 10: he has pitched, he's been not very good. Frankie Montas

2611
02:20:39,080 --> 02:20:44,879
Speaker 10: lost season, Stanton injured a lot, and then wildly effective otherwise,

2612
02:20:45,600 --> 02:20:49,680
Speaker 10: le Mayhew not the same player used to be. Donaldson

2613
02:20:50,080 --> 02:20:51,959
Speaker 10: injured and not the same player.

2614
02:20:51,840 --> 02:20:52,160
Speaker 12: Used to be.

2615
02:20:53,080 --> 02:20:55,480
Speaker 10: It's not a matter of saying, well, let's just bring

2616
02:20:55,600 --> 02:20:58,720
Speaker 10: back the same group next year and better luck next time,

2617
02:20:59,160 --> 02:21:04,640
Speaker 10: because generally speaking, older players do not get more durable

2618
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:09,200
Speaker 10: and better. This is not a logical decision. And this

2619
02:21:09,640 --> 02:21:12,720
Speaker 10: is the cautionary tale. Whether it's the Padres, whether it's

2620
02:21:12,760 --> 02:21:17,280
Speaker 10: the Mets. Building your team and free agency, it sometimes

2621
02:21:17,400 --> 02:21:21,520
Speaker 10: feels gratifying on the day in December, but it doesn't

2622
02:21:21,560 --> 02:21:25,440
Speaker 10: always guarantee results in August. And the Yankees are realizing that,

2623
02:21:25,959 --> 02:21:28,960
Speaker 10: the Mets are realizing that, the Padres are realizing that.

2624
02:21:29,520 --> 02:21:33,840
Speaker 10: And so if the answer to the Yankees' issues is well,

2625
02:21:34,520 --> 02:21:36,800
Speaker 10: we now need to go out there this offseason. We've

2626
02:21:36,800 --> 02:21:40,400
Speaker 10: got to sign Cody Bellinger. We've got to sign Yoshinobu

2627
02:21:40,480 --> 02:21:43,600
Speaker 10: Yamamoto from Japan. We've got to make a run at Otani,

2628
02:21:43,640 --> 02:21:45,840
Speaker 10: even though I think that's not going to happen. We've

2629
02:21:45,879 --> 02:21:48,680
Speaker 10: got to sign Aaron Nola. You've got to sign Michael Lorenzen.

2630
02:21:49,080 --> 02:21:52,360
Speaker 10: You can keep signing and signing and signing, but you

2631
02:21:52,480 --> 02:21:54,680
Speaker 10: need to develop your own players from within. And I

2632
02:21:54,760 --> 02:21:56,920
Speaker 10: think that, to me is the issue with teams that

2633
02:21:57,120 --> 02:22:02,240
Speaker 10: have have had really difficult first four and five months

2634
02:22:02,280 --> 02:22:05,920
Speaker 10: of the season. Where is your internal depth and when

2635
02:22:05,959 --> 02:22:08,720
Speaker 10: you have an inevitable injury, who are you calling up?

2636
02:22:09,120 --> 02:22:12,920
Speaker 10: And teams that have young days of position players like

2637
02:22:13,040 --> 02:22:16,040
Speaker 10: the red like the Orioles, like the Mariners, they've got

2638
02:22:16,200 --> 02:22:19,160
Speaker 10: someone to go to, and the Yankees right now simply

2639
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:22,280
Speaker 10: do not. And for that reason, the longer this goes on,

2640
02:22:23,080 --> 02:22:25,960
Speaker 10: I don't think anybody in New York can feel all

2641
02:22:26,040 --> 02:22:29,000
Speaker 10: that comfortable with their job status entering next season, because

2642
02:22:29,440 --> 02:22:33,959
Speaker 10: if they finish five ten games low five hundred, I'm

2643
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:37,000
Speaker 10: not sure if just signing a couple guys and running

2644
02:22:37,040 --> 02:22:39,480
Speaker 10: it all back next season is a very logical way

2645
02:22:39,520 --> 02:22:42,840
Speaker 10: to respond to what has been a very humbling twenty

2646
02:22:42,920 --> 02:22:44,200
Speaker 10: twenty three season in the Bronx.

2647
02:22:44,280 --> 02:22:46,600
Speaker 2: All right, final question, I've been meaning to ask you

2648
02:22:46,720 --> 02:22:52,920
Speaker 2: this thirty seven games to go, sho hey Otani? Is

2649
02:22:53,040 --> 02:22:59,480
Speaker 2: he having the greatest individual season in Major League Baseball history?

2650
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:02,040
Speaker 5: Yes, he is.

2651
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:05,760
Speaker 10: We've never seen anyone like him, and he's performing in

2652
02:23:05,800 --> 02:23:08,480
Speaker 10: a way that we've never seen either. The big question

2653
02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:11,440
Speaker 10: that I have now going forward is I guess twofold

2654
02:23:11,520 --> 02:23:13,960
Speaker 10: Number one is the MVP going to be unanimous? I

2655
02:23:14,080 --> 02:23:18,080
Speaker 10: suspect it probably will be. And number two, what does

2656
02:23:18,160 --> 02:23:20,640
Speaker 10: it all mean for the offseason? And how do we

2657
02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:27,360
Speaker 10: tabulate and consider the value there and what number will

2658
02:23:27,400 --> 02:23:29,280
Speaker 10: it be? Is it going to be five hundred million,

2659
02:23:29,440 --> 02:23:32,720
Speaker 10: six hundred millions. I tend to doubt that he's going

2660
02:23:32,760 --> 02:23:35,480
Speaker 10: to go to either New York team right now, because

2661
02:23:36,200 --> 02:23:39,440
Speaker 10: they have not shown that they're honestly any better or

2662
02:23:39,480 --> 02:23:42,480
Speaker 10: any more competitive right now than the Angels are. So

2663
02:23:42,520 --> 02:23:44,680
Speaker 10: if he's going to leave the Angels, he's going to

2664
02:23:44,760 --> 02:23:47,840
Speaker 10: have to go to a place that's better. It's demonstrably better,

2665
02:23:48,160 --> 02:23:49,960
Speaker 10: I think right now you'd have to say the Dodgers

2666
02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:53,360
Speaker 10: are better. But the universe of teams that are appealing

2667
02:23:53,440 --> 02:23:57,200
Speaker 10: for him to go to and really clearly better than

2668
02:23:57,240 --> 02:24:00,240
Speaker 10: the Angels is actually a smaller group than you would think.

2669
02:24:00,600 --> 02:24:02,160
Speaker 10: And so I still think there's a decent chance that

2670
02:24:02,240 --> 02:24:05,240
Speaker 10: he would. It's not a better than fifty to fifty chance,

2671
02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:08,520
Speaker 10: But I think his thing with the Angels is still

2672
02:24:09,120 --> 02:24:11,760
Speaker 10: somewhere in the realm of twenty or twenty five percent,

2673
02:24:12,320 --> 02:24:16,560
Speaker 10: just because the menu of options elsewhere is not as

2674
02:24:16,760 --> 02:24:18,280
Speaker 10: appealing as you would otherwise think.

2675
02:24:18,480 --> 02:24:21,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, Dodgers are clearly better as they're heading to the

2676
02:24:21,320 --> 02:24:22,959
Speaker 2: playoffs for the eleventh straight year.

2677
02:24:23,760 --> 02:24:25,840
Speaker 3: JP enjoyed the Little League World Series.

2678
02:24:25,879 --> 02:24:26,640
Speaker 1: Man, I know you do.

2679
02:24:27,000 --> 02:24:31,480
Speaker 2: And we've been watching Bryce Harper the Phillies hanging out today.

2680
02:24:31,560 --> 02:24:34,440
Speaker 3: They show them cheering on the kids, so it's got

2681
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:35,800
Speaker 3: to be a lot of fun. Enjoy it.

2682
02:24:37,320 --> 02:24:39,080
Speaker 10: Thanks so much, gentlemen. I have a wonderful week and

2683
02:24:39,120 --> 02:24:40,520
Speaker 10: look forward to connect the next week as well.

2684
02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:42,680
Speaker 2: All right, there is the great John Paul Morosi our

2685
02:24:42,720 --> 02:24:44,840
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio m WEIB insider.

2686
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:50,560
Speaker 3: Now, let's find out what is trending. Powering through the

2687
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:52,400
Speaker 3: day as she does, Monsie.

2688
02:24:52,240 --> 02:24:54,320
Speaker 7: Hurrying through the day, just like this storm.

2689
02:24:55,040 --> 02:24:56,840
Speaker 3: Gotta keep up the again.

2690
02:24:57,400 --> 02:25:00,320
Speaker 2: It has been raining steady, but nothing super Hiah, but

2691
02:25:00,440 --> 02:25:02,240
Speaker 2: it wasn't predicted to be super heavy.

2692
02:25:02,440 --> 02:25:06,440
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, and also just consistent for the day, which

2693
02:25:06,520 --> 02:25:11,080
Speaker 8: you wait, oh no, oh no, I'm just worried about my.

2694
02:25:11,200 --> 02:25:15,080
Speaker 9: Shoes because I have one pair of rain boots that

2695
02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:15,959
Speaker 9: I didn't wear.

2696
02:25:16,000 --> 02:25:18,240
Speaker 7: And I'm like, oh no, puddles my shoes. What are

2697
02:25:18,280 --> 02:25:19,720
Speaker 7: we gonna do. I'm gonna have to leave, I'm gonna

2698
02:25:19,720 --> 02:25:20,800
Speaker 7: have to jump. I'm a slip.

2699
02:25:20,920 --> 02:25:24,400
Speaker 3: It's just you gonna ask the same question you asked

2700
02:25:24,440 --> 02:25:25,040
Speaker 3: everybody here.

2701
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:27,760
Speaker 7: I will, but I have to have to have it

2702
02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:28,280
Speaker 7: in person.

2703
02:25:28,480 --> 02:25:30,440
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, all right, Yeah, that's fair.

2704
02:25:30,640 --> 02:25:32,920
Speaker 1: That's fair. You know, some things are for everyone and

2705
02:25:33,040 --> 02:25:33,720
Speaker 1: some things are for.

2706
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:36,680
Speaker 8: Just well you know, I'm making another TikTok.

2707
02:25:36,879 --> 02:25:40,800
Speaker 2: Well, I'm guessing that Rich will be here in a

2708
02:25:40,840 --> 02:25:42,800
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, so you're darn right.

2709
02:25:42,959 --> 02:25:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2710
02:25:43,240 --> 02:25:45,280
Speaker 8: See see, I'm gonna get as many people as I can,

2711
02:25:45,360 --> 02:25:46,840
Speaker 8: and we're gonna put this together.

2712
02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:49,560
Speaker 7: And see instant chat or whatever it is, who.

2713
02:25:49,560 --> 02:25:53,320
Speaker 9: Is more famous between Taylor Swift and Lebron James.

2714
02:25:53,360 --> 02:25:57,480
Speaker 8: So don't answer Rich, Okay, don't answer, Okay, okay, all right,

2715
02:25:57,680 --> 02:25:59,199
Speaker 8: but that's what we're gonna We're gonna see what people

2716
02:25:59,240 --> 02:25:59,800
Speaker 8: say around here.

2717
02:26:00,200 --> 02:26:03,520
Speaker 1: We're on to Cincinnati, guys.

2718
02:26:03,640 --> 02:26:06,640
Speaker 8: Let's talk a little baseball because uh Yankee Vans were

2719
02:26:06,640 --> 02:26:09,240
Speaker 8: a bit upset on social media, and I did look

2720
02:26:09,280 --> 02:26:12,080
Speaker 8: at the play. I would be upset too. So there

2721
02:26:12,160 --> 02:26:14,880
Speaker 8: was a controversial call. Isaiah Kiner fh Lef. I think

2722
02:26:14,920 --> 02:26:18,039
Speaker 8: I said his name right. He was running towards home

2723
02:26:18,400 --> 02:26:21,640
Speaker 8: and Boston's catcher, who I don't know what They switched catcher,

2724
02:26:21,680 --> 02:26:23,520
Speaker 8: so I don't know which one it was. He one

2725
02:26:23,760 --> 02:26:27,880
Speaker 8: hundred percent blocked home plate before the ball got to

2726
02:26:28,040 --> 02:26:31,080
Speaker 8: his glove. I slowed it down I paused it and everything,

2727
02:26:31,640 --> 02:26:34,000
Speaker 8: and they overturned the call. They had given the Yankees

2728
02:26:34,040 --> 02:26:37,480
Speaker 8: the run. They overturned it, and now the Red Sox

2729
02:26:37,560 --> 02:26:40,439
Speaker 8: have scored, taking the lead in the Bronx.

2730
02:26:40,240 --> 02:26:43,080
Speaker 7: Six to five top of the ninth inning. But I

2731
02:26:43,120 --> 02:26:44,120
Speaker 7: can see the frustration.

2732
02:26:44,200 --> 02:26:45,640
Speaker 8: I slowed it down, like I said, it did not

2733
02:26:46,080 --> 02:26:48,320
Speaker 8: it was not in the glove before that catcher blocked

2734
02:26:48,360 --> 02:26:50,920
Speaker 8: home plate. Now the Giants and the Braves are tied.

2735
02:26:50,959 --> 02:26:53,320
Speaker 8: The Braves were losing most of this game. Ronald Acuna

2736
02:26:53,440 --> 02:26:56,520
Speaker 8: Junior with the tying run. He got to home plate

2737
02:26:56,680 --> 02:26:59,760
Speaker 8: because catcher Patrick Bailey of the Giants had a throwing

2738
02:27:00,480 --> 02:27:02,480
Speaker 8: So we're in Atlanta three to three, top of the

2739
02:27:02,600 --> 02:27:05,360
Speaker 8: ninth inning, but the Giants have the bases loaded. They

2740
02:27:05,400 --> 02:27:07,960
Speaker 8: are down to their final out. The Cardinals beating the

2741
02:27:08,000 --> 02:27:10,039
Speaker 8: Mets four to two bottom of the seventh, Brewers holding

2742
02:27:10,080 --> 02:27:12,000
Speaker 8: on to their lead over the Rangers three to one,

2743
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:14,480
Speaker 8: top of the seventh, White Sox Rockies tied at to

2744
02:27:14,560 --> 02:27:14,959
Speaker 8: a peace.

2745
02:27:14,800 --> 02:27:15,640
Speaker 7: Squottom of the fifth.

2746
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:18,119
Speaker 8: Orioles up on the ace two zero top of the second,

2747
02:27:18,440 --> 02:27:21,280
Speaker 8: and already the Mariners were able to hold on and

2748
02:27:21,480 --> 02:27:24,879
Speaker 8: beat the Astro seven to six, completing a sweep of Houston.

2749
02:27:25,120 --> 02:27:27,360
Speaker 8: The Mariners have won six in a row. They are

2750
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:31,280
Speaker 8: fourteen and three in their last seventeen games. Julio Rodriguez

2751
02:27:31,400 --> 02:27:34,520
Speaker 8: only had one hit in this game, but that's still amazing.

2752
02:27:34,680 --> 02:27:35,960
Speaker 7: Eighteen hits in five games.

2753
02:27:36,160 --> 02:27:38,760
Speaker 3: No, that's not the same as seventeen and four. That's

2754
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:39,360
Speaker 3: a record.

2755
02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:42,959
Speaker 1: You're so rude. You're so rude. But the Mariners.

2756
02:27:43,200 --> 02:27:44,640
Speaker 7: The Mariners, one guys.

2757
02:27:45,160 --> 02:27:48,119
Speaker 8: And at the final round of the BMW Championship, it's

2758
02:27:48,160 --> 02:27:51,120
Speaker 8: been back and forth between Scotti, Scheffler and Matt Fitzpatrick,

2759
02:27:51,120 --> 02:27:53,280
Speaker 8: and it looks like Scheffler is in the lead alone

2760
02:27:53,320 --> 02:27:56,959
Speaker 8: at fifteen under par. Overall, Matt Fitzpatrick and Victor Hovelin

2761
02:27:57,080 --> 02:27:59,959
Speaker 8: are one shot back back to you, guys.

2762
02:28:00,160 --> 02:28:05,320
Speaker 2: Great job as always, all right, So today we focused

2763
02:28:05,360 --> 02:28:10,959
Speaker 2: in on the AFC West, the NFC West, the AFC East,

2764
02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:15,000
Speaker 2: and we're completing the NFC East as far as over

2765
02:28:15,200 --> 02:28:19,480
Speaker 2: unders of concern and what are the best plays Washington.

2766
02:28:20,200 --> 02:28:22,960
Speaker 2: By the way, you saw that they've gathered over one

2767
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:27,160
Speaker 2: hundred thousand signatures from this Native American group that want

2768
02:28:27,200 --> 02:28:30,960
Speaker 2: to restore the Redskins name, which is not going to happen.

2769
02:28:31,040 --> 02:28:33,480
Speaker 2: By the way, No, matter how many signatures they get.

2770
02:28:33,920 --> 02:28:36,480
Speaker 2: From a marketing standpoint, the NFL will make the call

2771
02:28:36,600 --> 02:28:40,640
Speaker 2: on that. I think everyone is thoroughly clear that no

2772
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:43,240
Speaker 2: one likes Commanders right now.

2773
02:28:43,440 --> 02:28:47,880
Speaker 4: Like Commanders is it's just synonymous with a couple of

2774
02:28:48,120 --> 02:28:49,920
Speaker 4: things that were really clunky.

2775
02:28:50,240 --> 02:28:51,320
Speaker 1: The name Rollout.

2776
02:28:51,640 --> 02:28:54,520
Speaker 4: It was leaked beforehand, and it didn't have a lot

2777
02:28:54,600 --> 02:28:57,080
Speaker 4: of juice, and a lot of other better names came

2778
02:28:57,200 --> 02:29:02,480
Speaker 4: up in the deliberation process. I think the I think

2779
02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:05,160
Speaker 4: actually one of the biggest complaints you'll hear from the

2780
02:29:05,240 --> 02:29:10,280
Speaker 4: fan base fan base is the logo and the like

2781
02:29:10,440 --> 02:29:11,240
Speaker 4: the text print.

2782
02:29:11,440 --> 02:29:12,240
Speaker 1: It's just not cool.

2783
02:29:13,240 --> 02:29:16,720
Speaker 2: It's just look at you spend six billion dollars for

2784
02:29:16,800 --> 02:29:20,959
Speaker 2: a franchise. This, this entire franchise has got to hit

2785
02:29:21,040 --> 02:29:24,120
Speaker 2: the reset button. Oh yeah, no question about that. A

2786
02:29:24,240 --> 02:29:26,879
Speaker 2: year ago they won eight games. This is this team

2787
02:29:26,959 --> 02:29:30,080
Speaker 2: has certainly one of the better defenses in the league.

2788
02:29:30,480 --> 02:29:33,200
Speaker 2: They don't have a quarterback. You know, Sam Howe will

2789
02:29:33,200 --> 02:29:35,720
Speaker 2: see how it all plays out with him. So a

2790
02:29:35,879 --> 02:29:38,080
Speaker 2: wins a year ago rich The over under is six

2791
02:29:38,160 --> 02:29:38,600
Speaker 2: and a half.

2792
02:29:38,840 --> 02:29:39,199
Speaker 3: I guess.

2793
02:29:39,280 --> 02:29:43,320
Speaker 2: The question being, since this organization is going through so

2794
02:29:43,440 --> 02:29:46,560
Speaker 2: many changes both on and off the field, they do

2795
02:29:46,720 --> 02:29:48,720
Speaker 2: have the steady hand of Ron Rivere and I still

2796
02:29:48,800 --> 02:29:51,160
Speaker 2: respect Ron Rivera as a head coach. I mean, the

2797
02:29:51,240 --> 02:29:55,039
Speaker 2: quarterback situation has been a debacle over the last several years.

2798
02:29:55,080 --> 02:29:56,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if Sam Howe is going to rectify

2799
02:29:56,920 --> 02:29:59,880
Speaker 2: that situation. But if you were to make a play

2800
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:04,920
Speaker 2: on Washington over under six and a half wins in

2801
02:30:05,160 --> 02:30:07,360
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, which way are you leaning?

2802
02:30:08,400 --> 02:30:10,879
Speaker 3: Jeez, it's pretty low number.

2803
02:30:11,160 --> 02:30:14,160
Speaker 4: It's a low number, man, it's a low number. But

2804
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:18,600
Speaker 4: you gotta remember that division. Yeah, you have Philadelphia Eagles,

2805
02:30:18,640 --> 02:30:21,440
Speaker 4: who were a couple of heartbeats away from being Super

2806
02:30:21,480 --> 02:30:25,520
Speaker 4: Bowl champs. You've got the Dallas Cowboys who are a

2807
02:30:25,560 --> 02:30:28,240
Speaker 4: twelve win team a year ago, and over the past

2808
02:30:28,320 --> 02:30:31,520
Speaker 4: two seasons they've been dominant. I think they're twenty four

2809
02:30:31,600 --> 02:30:35,800
Speaker 4: and ten over the past two seasons. And that defense also,

2810
02:30:35,920 --> 02:30:39,560
Speaker 4: I mean, the Commander is very good defense, but arguably

2811
02:30:40,040 --> 02:30:43,440
Speaker 4: Dallas Cowboys have the best defense in that division. And

2812
02:30:43,600 --> 02:30:48,040
Speaker 4: that's including the Philadelphia Eagles, you know, I mean, this

2813
02:30:48,280 --> 02:30:52,480
Speaker 4: is a tough division. Okay, my brain is telling me

2814
02:30:52,920 --> 02:30:57,000
Speaker 4: they can't possibly go under that number, right, So my

2815
02:30:57,160 --> 02:30:59,840
Speaker 4: brain is telling me take the over, But my heart,

2816
02:31:00,480 --> 02:31:05,600
Speaker 4: like it's telling me I can't in good faith bet

2817
02:31:05,720 --> 02:31:09,120
Speaker 4: the over for the Commanders. So I'm torn on this one.

2818
02:31:09,280 --> 02:31:12,560
Speaker 4: I want to take the under, but my brain tells

2819
02:31:12,640 --> 02:31:15,080
Speaker 4: me that they're better than that number.

2820
02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2821
02:31:15,600 --> 02:31:18,640
Speaker 2: I was talking to Carrie about this yesterday, Carrie Rhodes about,

2822
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:21,880
Speaker 2: you know what kind of impact all this outside commotion

2823
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:24,280
Speaker 2: with the sale of the team and you know, all

2824
02:31:24,320 --> 02:31:26,280
Speaker 2: the changes that they're going to try to make to

2825
02:31:26,680 --> 02:31:32,080
Speaker 2: erase Daniel Snyder's reign over this once proud franchise and

2826
02:31:32,360 --> 02:31:33,840
Speaker 2: how that might affect the locker room.

2827
02:31:33,879 --> 02:31:36,600
Speaker 3: And he's like, it really doesn't know it gets.

2828
02:31:36,400 --> 02:31:40,160
Speaker 2: Down to football, but you're leaning on Sam hell, you know,

2829
02:31:40,760 --> 02:31:43,480
Speaker 2: and how can you not think of Rivera as really

2830
02:31:43,560 --> 02:31:46,240
Speaker 2: a lame duck coach? Yeah, and he just seems like

2831
02:31:47,240 --> 02:31:50,600
Speaker 2: he's left over from the previous regime. I think this

2832
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:53,200
Speaker 2: is an ownership group that he just needs to sort

2833
02:31:53,240 --> 02:31:54,959
Speaker 2: of sit down and let's see.

2834
02:31:54,800 --> 02:31:55,240
Speaker 3: What we got.

2835
02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I listen, I don't like the number, but if

2836
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:02,320
Speaker 4: you were going to like hog tie me and threaten

2837
02:32:02,440 --> 02:32:05,039
Speaker 4: me and tell me you got you gotta pick a side,

2838
02:32:05,120 --> 02:32:09,840
Speaker 4: I'd pick the under because again, yeah, like you just said,

2839
02:32:10,000 --> 02:32:12,640
Speaker 4: that's an argument in favor of the number being low.

2840
02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:14,400
Speaker 1: Because let me just look at them.

2841
02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:17,400
Speaker 4: When was the last time they were a significant football team,

2842
02:32:17,640 --> 02:32:19,520
Speaker 4: Robert Griffin, the third was their quarterbacks.

2843
02:32:19,600 --> 02:32:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, when Shannyhan came in and until the end

2844
02:32:23,200 --> 02:32:23,680
Speaker 3: of that year.

2845
02:32:23,680 --> 02:32:27,600
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna come back and we're gonna wrap

2846
02:32:27,720 --> 02:32:32,320
Speaker 2: up our over unders on the Philadelphia Eagles. Obviously, our

2847
02:32:33,320 --> 02:32:35,720
Speaker 2: producer Bo is a diehard Eagles fan, will get his

2848
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:40,480
Speaker 2: input because we said something earlier in the show that

2849
02:32:40,600 --> 02:32:44,440
Speaker 2: if we're leaning that way with one team, do we

2850
02:32:44,560 --> 02:32:46,240
Speaker 2: lean the same way with the Eagles.

2851
02:32:46,280 --> 02:32:51,400
Speaker 3: We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday two and two.

2852
02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:53,720
Speaker 11: Here's the pitch from Seawalld reach board hit of the

2853
02:32:53,800 --> 02:32:54,880
Speaker 11: Year to left center field.

2854
02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:56,960
Speaker 3: Curry yell at Thomas, they're going back.

2855
02:32:57,240 --> 02:33:00,680
Speaker 11: Curry yell at the wall, makes the catch and the

2856
02:33:00,920 --> 02:33:04,800
Speaker 11: ballgame is over. Soto just flung his helmet in the

2857
02:33:04,879 --> 02:33:06,160
Speaker 11: air by first base.

2858
02:33:06,760 --> 02:33:09,199
Speaker 1: He missed it by that much.

2859
02:33:09,720 --> 02:33:13,120
Speaker 11: Seawald works an adventurous bottom of the nine dining but

2860
02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:16,920
Speaker 11: leaves them loaded and the Diamondbacks take game one of

2861
02:33:17,000 --> 02:33:19,199
Speaker 11: the doubleheader six to four.

2862
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:23,440
Speaker 3: That's the Padres Radio Network wah wah wah.

2863
02:33:23,720 --> 02:33:27,000
Speaker 2: Another loss for the padres by the way, close loss

2864
02:33:27,040 --> 02:33:30,040
Speaker 2: in the first game of the doubleheader, blowout loss in

2865
02:33:30,200 --> 02:33:32,240
Speaker 2: the second nightcap there.

2866
02:33:32,240 --> 02:33:32,600
Speaker 1: By the way.

2867
02:33:32,680 --> 02:33:34,400
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02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 2: we are live from the tirag dot com studios, our

2873
02:33:52,760 --> 02:33:54,760
Speaker 2: fearless crew doing it again.

2874
02:33:55,800 --> 02:33:56,119
Speaker 3: Iowa.

2875
02:33:56,280 --> 02:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Sam's been monitoring the weather. He still has a couple

2876
02:34:00,120 --> 02:34:02,440
Speaker 2: more year hours before we can leave here.

2877
02:34:02,600 --> 02:34:03,560
Speaker 3: It feels.

2878
02:34:06,520 --> 02:34:09,199
Speaker 2: So what's the projection by the time you leave the building?

2879
02:34:09,280 --> 02:34:10,160
Speaker 2: How's the lookout there?

2880
02:34:10,600 --> 02:34:11,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

2881
02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:14,240
Speaker 13: I gotta admit I'm a little checked out today. We

2882
02:34:14,320 --> 02:34:16,120
Speaker 13: don't get a lot of rain here in August, so

2883
02:34:16,720 --> 02:34:19,200
Speaker 13: it's kind of been distracting me. I want to go

2884
02:34:19,640 --> 02:34:21,279
Speaker 13: watch it at my own home and relax.

2885
02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:24,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think we would all love to do that. Monsie,

2886
02:34:24,200 --> 02:34:27,040
Speaker 2: of course, has been asking everybody in the building the

2887
02:34:27,080 --> 02:34:32,440
Speaker 2: same question over and over here ah together without saying

2888
02:34:32,480 --> 02:34:35,960
Speaker 2: which way I lean. Were you surprised at my response

2889
02:34:36,040 --> 02:34:36,320
Speaker 2: at all?

2890
02:34:36,640 --> 02:34:37,840
Speaker 3: No, not at all.

2891
02:34:38,520 --> 02:34:40,320
Speaker 2: Let's leave it right there. Yet leave it right there,

2892
02:34:41,120 --> 02:34:43,120
Speaker 2: and of course Bo is our brilliant producer.

2893
02:34:43,200 --> 02:34:43,320
Speaker 10: Bo.

2894
02:34:43,879 --> 02:34:44,760
Speaker 3: It comes down to this.

2895
02:34:45,000 --> 02:34:50,440
Speaker 2: We've been doing the Western divisions in each conference Eastern divisions.

2896
02:34:50,480 --> 02:34:54,200
Speaker 2: We have one team left, the defending NFC champion Philadelphia

2897
02:34:54,360 --> 02:34:57,800
Speaker 2: Eagles over under. Now, earlier, Rich, you and I were

2898
02:34:57,840 --> 02:35:00,560
Speaker 2: talking about the Chiefs and we were both in life step.

2899
02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:03,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs were fourteen and three a year ago. They're over

2900
02:35:03,720 --> 02:35:06,200
Speaker 2: under was eleven and a half. Yeah, And You're like,

2901
02:35:06,760 --> 02:35:10,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, do you see six losses on their schedule? Yeah,

2902
02:35:10,959 --> 02:35:15,400
Speaker 2: they're like no, So the play of over eleven and

2903
02:35:15,400 --> 02:35:18,680
Speaker 2: a half seems safe. Well, guess what the Eagles were

2904
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:22,000
Speaker 2: fourteen and three also last season, and guess what they're

2905
02:35:22,040 --> 02:35:25,560
Speaker 2: over under is eleven and a half half. It's identical

2906
02:35:25,760 --> 02:35:29,440
Speaker 2: to the Chiefs. So I'm going to start with Bow,

2907
02:35:30,440 --> 02:35:36,840
Speaker 2: our resident Eagle expert. I ask you, do you see

2908
02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:41,560
Speaker 2: the potential of six losses on their schedule?

2909
02:35:41,640 --> 02:35:41,760
Speaker 8: Bo?

2910
02:35:42,360 --> 02:35:47,080
Speaker 12: From the first week in November to the middle of December,

2911
02:35:48,080 --> 02:35:51,040
Speaker 12: they have kind of a brutal schedule. They played Dallas

2912
02:35:51,080 --> 02:35:52,600
Speaker 12: at home, then they get there by then they go

2913
02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:55,200
Speaker 12: on the road to Kansas City, they get Buffalo and

2914
02:35:55,240 --> 02:35:58,000
Speaker 12: San Francisco back to back weeks at home, and then

2915
02:35:58,040 --> 02:36:00,320
Speaker 12: they go on the road to Dallas, and then not

2916
02:36:00,440 --> 02:36:02,920
Speaker 12: to not to undersell them, but they also go to

2917
02:36:02,959 --> 02:36:06,040
Speaker 12: the road and play Seattle in that span two. That's

2918
02:36:06,120 --> 02:36:08,840
Speaker 12: pretty tough, but it is a little softer towards the beginning.

2919
02:36:09,720 --> 02:36:12,119
Speaker 12: So I think they're gonna be right around that mark.

2920
02:36:12,280 --> 02:36:14,360
Speaker 12: I think they're gonna take a step back just because

2921
02:36:14,360 --> 02:36:16,240
Speaker 12: they have a harder schedule being a first place team.

2922
02:36:17,080 --> 02:36:19,840
Speaker 3: But that is a brutal stretch.

2923
02:36:19,959 --> 02:36:21,640
Speaker 12: That's that's a tough stretch for any team.

2924
02:36:21,520 --> 02:36:21,920
Speaker 1: To go through.

2925
02:36:22,640 --> 02:36:25,360
Speaker 2: I mean what he rattled off their rich Yeah, I could.

2926
02:36:25,920 --> 02:36:30,160
Speaker 2: I could potentially see a six loss season for this team.

2927
02:36:30,360 --> 02:36:36,760
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, but I don't. I look, this is a

2928
02:36:36,920 --> 02:36:40,800
Speaker 4: stayoff game for me, Like I wouldn't. I am sure

2929
02:36:41,200 --> 02:36:44,080
Speaker 4: that I can't find six losses on the chief schedule.

2930
02:36:44,640 --> 02:36:46,800
Speaker 4: But like Bo just laid out, and when I took

2931
02:36:46,840 --> 02:36:50,280
Speaker 4: a look at their schedule earlier today, I feel similarly

2932
02:36:50,400 --> 02:36:53,560
Speaker 4: to you. I think that they could end up right

2933
02:36:53,800 --> 02:36:54,840
Speaker 4: on the number.

2934
02:36:55,240 --> 02:36:58,440
Speaker 3: And they could go eleven and six. It's an under six.

2935
02:36:58,480 --> 02:37:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the underwell, you know, the underwill hit and

2936
02:37:02,120 --> 02:37:04,440
Speaker 4: and they'll still get into the playoffs as a wildcard,

2937
02:37:04,520 --> 02:37:08,400
Speaker 4: and we know how how talented that roster is. It

2938
02:37:09,280 --> 02:37:11,520
Speaker 4: it wouldn't shock me if they ended up in the

2939
02:37:11,600 --> 02:37:14,720
Speaker 4: super Bowl again, even as a wildcard. But I digress

2940
02:37:14,920 --> 02:37:17,000
Speaker 4: to say, yeah, this is a this is a hands

2941
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:19,760
Speaker 4: off game for me, or or I should say number

2942
02:37:19,840 --> 02:37:22,080
Speaker 4: for me. But if I had to bet one side

2943
02:37:22,080 --> 02:37:24,600
Speaker 4: of the total, just because of the respect at for

2944
02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:27,920
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts as a winner and the trust that I've

2945
02:37:28,040 --> 02:37:31,160
Speaker 4: developed for him in big games, he's a clutch performer,

2946
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:34,360
Speaker 4: I would be more inclined to take the over rather

2947
02:37:34,480 --> 02:37:34,960
Speaker 4: than the under.

2948
02:37:35,040 --> 02:37:36,640
Speaker 3: With the Eagles, all right, So which way are you?

2949
02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:37,240
Speaker 3: Lanny bo?

2950
02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:43,000
Speaker 12: I think I'm gonna take the over, And I think

2951
02:37:43,040 --> 02:37:45,960
Speaker 12: it's because I saw that I saw that first snap

2952
02:37:46,040 --> 02:37:48,120
Speaker 12: that Jalen Carter took in an NFL game where he

2953
02:37:48,280 --> 02:37:50,400
Speaker 12: just threw the lineman to the side and rushed the

2954
02:37:50,480 --> 02:37:51,800
Speaker 12: quarter like with with ease.

2955
02:37:52,240 --> 02:37:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then do they have an entire Georgia defense

2956
02:37:55,160 --> 02:37:55,680
Speaker 3: pretty close?

2957
02:37:55,760 --> 02:37:59,119
Speaker 12: Nolan Smith has also been really good rushing the passers,

2958
02:37:59,200 --> 02:38:01,880
Speaker 12: So I think they have the chance to surprise some

2959
02:38:01,959 --> 02:38:04,959
Speaker 12: people but that that stretch they got to start really

2960
02:38:05,040 --> 02:38:07,880
Speaker 12: hot because they get New England, Minnesota, Tampa Bay in

2961
02:38:07,879 --> 02:38:10,560
Speaker 12: their first three, so they can start three and oher

2962
02:38:10,640 --> 02:38:12,200
Speaker 12: and kind of give themselves a bit of a cushion.

2963
02:38:12,560 --> 02:38:14,400
Speaker 12: But I think it all depends on how they handle

2964
02:38:14,440 --> 02:38:16,200
Speaker 12: that like middle stretch there with those games.

2965
02:38:17,840 --> 02:38:19,400
Speaker 3: I'm with you both of you guys.

2966
02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:24,960
Speaker 2: Again, the Chiefs playing a weaker division, Yeah, then, I

2967
02:38:25,000 --> 02:38:26,800
Speaker 2: mean definitely not even close.

2968
02:38:26,800 --> 02:38:30,320
Speaker 4: And so and I think defensively, what the Chiefs are

2969
02:38:30,360 --> 02:38:33,520
Speaker 4: going to be up against in their division doesn't measure

2970
02:38:33,600 --> 02:38:36,880
Speaker 4: up quite as I mean, like we're Dallas with Micah

2971
02:38:36,959 --> 02:38:40,680
Speaker 4: Parsons and that that group they have defensively, and then

2972
02:38:40,720 --> 02:38:44,400
Speaker 4: the Commanders even Yeah, I mean it's.

2973
02:38:44,480 --> 02:38:46,720
Speaker 2: The best play in the NFC East and would be

2974
02:38:47,040 --> 02:38:49,960
Speaker 2: over nine and a half wins for the Cowboys.

2975
02:38:50,280 --> 02:38:50,720
Speaker 1: I agree.

2976
02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:51,600
Speaker 12: Yeah, I think so too.

2977
02:38:51,720 --> 02:38:54,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that seems like a weird number. Why is

2978
02:38:54,879 --> 02:38:55,680
Speaker 3: it nine and a half?

2979
02:38:55,760 --> 02:38:58,160
Speaker 2: That's why I keep it because I always in the

2980
02:38:58,200 --> 02:39:00,840
Speaker 2: back of my mind saying Vegas is no there knows

2981
02:39:00,879 --> 02:39:07,560
Speaker 2: something here, maybe faith in exactly what I was thinking

2982
02:39:07,840 --> 02:39:13,360
Speaker 2: exactly like Kellen Moore, I mean completely getting out what

2983
02:39:13,520 --> 02:39:15,200
Speaker 2: kind of impact do you think Kellen Moore is going

2984
02:39:15,240 --> 02:39:17,279
Speaker 2: to have on the Chargers offense.

2985
02:39:17,840 --> 02:39:19,920
Speaker 4: Look, I think I said it earlier. I think he

2986
02:39:20,120 --> 02:39:23,600
Speaker 4: is going to improve their vertical game. I think they're

2987
02:39:23,640 --> 02:39:25,880
Speaker 4: going to stretch the field more. They're gonna make it

2988
02:39:26,000 --> 02:39:29,040
Speaker 4: tougher on defenses to play so close to the line

2989
02:39:29,080 --> 02:39:33,279
Speaker 4: of scrimmage. And as a former quarterback turned offensive coordinator,

2990
02:39:33,720 --> 02:39:36,760
Speaker 4: I think he's going to look to feature Justin Herbert.

2991
02:39:36,920 --> 02:39:40,160
Speaker 4: I mean that's an offense when with Austin Eckler, who

2992
02:39:40,400 --> 02:39:43,320
Speaker 4: shined and he requested more money on his contract because

2993
02:39:43,320 --> 02:39:45,080
Speaker 4: he was giving the ball so much and throwing the

2994
02:39:45,160 --> 02:39:46,920
Speaker 4: ball so much. No, they're going to go deep down

2995
02:39:46,959 --> 02:39:48,119
Speaker 4: the field with some of the weapons.

2996
02:39:48,320 --> 02:39:51,840
Speaker 2: All right, ready for Week zero next week, Yes, we'll

2997
02:39:51,920 --> 02:39:53,080
Speaker 2: have some real football.

2998
02:39:53,240 --> 02:39:55,680
Speaker 3: Keep it right here. This is Fox Sports Radio.