WEBVTT - Kaitlyn Leeb 0:00:33.960 --> 0:00:37.520 Hi. Are you doing. Hi good? How are you very well? 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.159 Thank you? Yeah, it's good to see you. Good to 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:42.960 see you too. Cat you on mute? Oh am I muted? Huh, 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:47.760 there you go, there we go. It's better. Welcome Caitlin 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:50.800 to the podcast. Thank you so much for being here today. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.240 Thank you for asking me. It's been a long time. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:57.080 I can't believe how many years it's been. We talked 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.000 about this quite a bit on the show. It's been 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:01.600 seven years since we did the first season of the show. 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.759 Oh my gosh, seven years. That's insane. Yeah, it's astounding 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.360 how much it just has done. Enough far we've come 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.800 and everything, and yet you know, the Shadow film is 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.960 still going strong, so we wanted to. We couldn't obviously 0:01:16.040 --> 0:01:20.520 complete a season one Rewatch Slash Deep Dive without the 0:01:20.560 --> 0:01:25.839 one and only Camille. Oh. So, first of all, how 0:01:25.880 --> 0:01:31.400 are you. How's life? How's the family good? So I'm great. 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:35.040 I now have two kids, which is crazy because when 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.360 I first started Shadow Hunters, I didn't have any. Yeah, 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:40.960 and yeah, they're good. They're like I guess it makes 0:01:40.959 --> 0:01:44.600 sense because Avery is turning six this year and then 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:48.320 my little one is two a half. So yeah, I 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.520 brought Avery to set five weeks after I gave birth 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:56.080 to her to shoot Shadow Hunters season two. Yeah, that 0:01:56.160 --> 0:01:59.160 little one was on set at like five weeks old, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:04.880 a little shadow Hunter baby. That's cute, That's really cool. 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.240 That's something that's amazing about the show is, you know, 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:12.800 looking back and seeing how how everyone's personalized have changed 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:16.040 to you know, the all the kids and marriages and 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:21.440 houses and everything that eat. Right after shadow Unters, people 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:25.959 just started pumping out babies like left frind centers. Yeah, 0:02:25.960 --> 0:02:29.000 how are you guys doing? What's you know, what's new? 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.200 We're good. No kids as far as I know, no 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.880 children as yet. Dogs and cats and that's what we're 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:40.200 good with. But we're good. Yeah, Caitlin, why don't we 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:42.720 start with sort of everyone? I've been sort of asking 0:02:42.720 --> 0:02:44.600 everyone to start in the same way. But tell us 0:02:44.639 --> 0:02:49.000 and tell the fans listening your baby steps, tell us 0:02:49.040 --> 0:02:52.679 how you how you got started with acting, how like 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:55.359 where this world drew you in, what you found cool 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.120 about it? You know, just give us a little a 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:03.119 little Caitlin, what of this crazy industry? This crazy industry? 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:07.079 So um, I originally wanted to be like a runway model, 0:03:07.280 --> 0:03:09.760 and that was like my dream or like Beyond Billboards, 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:11.960 and so I got an agent when I was young, 0:03:12.160 --> 0:03:14.280 and they were like, listen, you're never going to be 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.480 a runaway model. You're way too short. And I was like, uh, 0:03:18.120 --> 0:03:20.240 my dreams are crushed and try acting. I was like, 0:03:21.000 --> 0:03:24.519 I don't sure. I don't think you're too sure, are you. Yeah, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:30.720 I'm five four, I mean I feel now, Yeah, I 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:34.000 feel like Camille. I think was just like a bigger presence. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.200 But I'm a little I'm five four, And so they're like, 0:03:36.240 --> 0:03:38.920 you're never gonna be run away. Yeah, I know. So 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.480 they kind of they put me in acting classes. And 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:44.560 then I got an agent and I started auditioning for shows, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:46.560 and I booked a couple of things here and there, 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:48.840 but um, you know, I went through university. I did 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.600 a lot of print or of high school, I did 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.400 a lot of print modeling, and then I stayed in 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:57.200 Toronto to the university, and um, I really wanted to 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.880 get my degree before I decided to do anything. So 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:02.480 I got a degree in psychology and then I booked 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.760 a movie like my first lead at the same time. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.360 So I filmed it, came back, graduated, and then I 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:10.920 decided it was just like the industry kind of was like, yeah, nope, 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:12.720 you're going to do this, and then I kind of 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:14.920 put all my eggs in that basket and went went 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:18.159 with it. And um, I've been, you know, really lucky 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.440 that I can still do what I love and I've 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:22.760 been in the industry for a long time. And it 0:04:22.839 --> 0:04:25.680 is a crazy industry, that's for sure, but uh yeah, 0:04:25.680 --> 0:04:28.960 I love it. I wouldn't do anything else. Oh that's amazing. 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.640 So tell us a little bit why you chose psychology 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.799 and what what was sort of behind that. I'm always 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.080 curious is to you know, why people study what they do. 0:04:36.279 --> 0:04:39.599 I originally wanted to be like a like an operational nurse, 0:04:39.680 --> 0:04:41.599 and my mom was like, that's never gonna work for you, 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.560 Like you're not going to be like that person, and 0:04:43.600 --> 0:04:46.080 I'm not, and I'm she was so rum But I 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:47.960 think when nursing, like when I did my first year, 0:04:48.000 --> 0:04:49.479 I had to do psychology, and I just fell in 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:51.000 love with it. I feel like most people that's how 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.320 they kind of get into They took a site course 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:55.200 and then they're like this is so interesting and then 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:58.080 there's so much more. So, um, yeah, I wanted to 0:04:58.160 --> 0:05:00.839 go into like do therapy for people help. I just 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:04.360 want to help people, and I really found psychology super 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:09.120 interesting and relatable to everyone and everything. So I ran 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:11.559 a pet therapy program at the Center for Addiction Mental 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:16.520 Health here in Toronto for while I was finishing university. Yeah, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:18.600 and I wanted to work there. That's why. Like, I 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.560 ran this program with my family dog and she was 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:24.560 amazing and I learned so much more there than I 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:27.200 did in school, because you're like, just like acting. It's 0:05:27.240 --> 0:05:29.599 like you can take a million classes, but until you 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:33.360 get on set, that's when you really learned, right, Um, 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:35.279 And so I wanted to work at cam ATE, which 0:05:35.320 --> 0:05:38.600 is set of Tradition mental health, and then I booked 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:41.760 a movie and realized that this is what I want 0:05:41.800 --> 0:05:46.159 to do. So yeah, that's really cool. Yeah. Pet therapy 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:51.640 is therapy with pets, right, yeah, therapy for pets. Like 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:53.599 it's an addiculous thing. I lived in l a for 0:05:53.640 --> 0:05:56.680 like six years, and we bumped into this person who 0:05:56.720 --> 0:06:00.360 was a pet not mystic, Like, um, what are they 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.599 called the people you go to talk? Yeah, no, but 0:06:03.880 --> 0:06:07.680 kind of, but they like read who are the psychic? Psychic? 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.280 That's what I'm thinking, Thank you very much. It was 0:06:09.279 --> 0:06:11.560 a pet psychic, and they would like, you want to 0:06:11.600 --> 0:06:13.720 talk to your dead dog because we can do it here. 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.000 And I was like, wow, okay, I don't. I don't 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.320 think because I couldn't talk to him when he was alive. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.320 So I don't know what you're gonna offer me, Like 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.440 you also translator, this is the weird, weird things. You 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.640 say it like it's a crazy thing, like therapy for pets. 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:28.760 But yeah, I think you're right in l A. There's 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.400 a world for it. I think so too. You're absolutely 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.960 right crazy. I'm glad it wasn't that. I'm glad it 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.600 was therapy with pets. I think that might be more 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:41.320 beneficial around. Yes, I think so. So talk to us 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.040 a little bit about your journey with shadow Hunters. So 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.160 you've been the industry for a while, you're working in Toronto, 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:50.080 you're working probably all over Canada. I can only sue, 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:54.279 and this comes across your proverbial desk. What were your 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.040 first impressions of Camille? What was your sort of did 0:06:57.080 --> 0:06:59.080 you know of the book series? What was your journey 0:06:59.120 --> 0:07:04.160 into into our world? So I was obsessed with vampires. 0:07:04.240 --> 0:07:05.880 I don't know what it was. I was just like 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:09.480 the most obsessed with vampires really, you know they were. Yeah, 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:12.480 it was so weird, like before Shadow Hunters. Um. I 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:14.400 just loved the vampires, like I want to be a 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:16.280 vampire like in real life. I was just like, I 0:07:16.360 --> 0:07:19.240 thought they were so cool. I don't know, maybe like 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.360 which ones, you know, because because vampires went all the 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:25.600 way from like No s Ferrato in the in the 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:31.600 twenties through like Blade Buffy, Like which generation vampires? Yeah, 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:33.560 I feel like so Buffy. I was always that that's 0:07:33.560 --> 0:07:36.000 like definitely my generation growing up. And then of course, 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:39.800 like the Twilight thing blew up and everyone was a vampire, werewolf, vampire, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:41.720 were world. I just like loved it. I thought it 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.560 would be really cool to play a vampire, I think 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:47.840 more so than anything. And so when I cut the 0:07:48.000 --> 0:07:50.520 audition for Camille, I was like, oh my god, this 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.880 would be my dream come true. Um. I just thought 0:07:53.880 --> 0:07:55.880 she was such a good character. I didn't know anything 0:07:55.880 --> 0:08:00.520 about the books prior to going into even audition for it. Um, 0:08:00.560 --> 0:08:02.880 but I booked it the next day, and honestly, it 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:06.120 was it was insane. I mean, I'm sure you guys 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:11.080 all liked it right away. Yeah. I had auditioned for 0:08:11.120 --> 0:08:14.760 a couple of things before that, Um oh this happened. 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:18.240 I think I helped you. Auditions. Yeah, I auditioned for 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.920 Izzy first, and then they wanted me to audition for DOT, 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.320 but I was in Bali, so I couldn't. Then I 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:27.840 came back and Camille came and I was so happy 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:29.160 because I was like, this is the one I would 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:31.600 really want to do. And then I found out the 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.480 next day and then it was just crazy. It was 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:35.760 like it was just like really overwhelming and crazy, and 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.640 then fans and everything, so it was a whirlwind. But um, 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.760 then I got down to research because I soon found 0:08:42.800 --> 0:08:45.720 out that I don't look anything like Camille does in 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:48.679 the books, which was a problem for people at the beginning. 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.480 As it always is, you have to give act as 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.360 the opportunity to prove themselves. It's really important and it's 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:58.120 important that like we give people chances, like this is 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.280 our industry, this is what we do. There's this new 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.720 one going around that people have pissed that Amelia Clark 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:06.400 isn't blonde. The show is about dragons. I know, I 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:08.960 know she's Alia Clark. I guess it's like when people 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.000 are so invested in the book and like as you know, 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.800 when you read a book, you you're watching it in 0:09:12.840 --> 0:09:14.920 your head, right, So they get it's so invested with 0:09:14.960 --> 0:09:18.040 these characters. And then when I pop up as Camille, 0:09:18.080 --> 0:09:20.720 who was like you know she was She's such a 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:23.360 badass character, They're like, that's not which I pictured her 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:25.800 to look like. So, you know, I had some hate 0:09:25.840 --> 0:09:29.319 and then I had some luve, and I just felt like, Okay, 0:09:29.400 --> 0:09:31.440 I need to really figure out who Camille is. So 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:35.240 I did a lot of research, read research everything because 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.840 I was like, Okay, I'm not I don't look like her, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:41.120 but I need to beat her and just to like 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:43.400 give the fans with you wanted because I get that, 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:46.120 I get their like disappointment. Although I was really hoping 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:47.880 to rock a blonde wig. I'm not going to lie. 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:50.400 I was like, do it? Did they ever try one on? 0:09:50.640 --> 0:09:53.319 Did was that ever a remote possibility? Or did they 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.440 just keep your I mean, your hair is gorgeous. No. 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.160 I was so hoping to I mean, I just like 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.200 I thought it would be really cool, of course, you know, 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.000 to rock a blonde wig, and I still would look 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.960 a little bit different, but at least give you know, 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.320 give them that, But they did, I mean I was 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:09.520 wearing a wig. I was wearing like a double wig. 0:10:09.520 --> 0:10:13.800 It was extremely extremely heavy on my head. But it 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.000 was black. It was like dark hair. But no, that 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:21.480 was never a thing, unfortunately. But that's okay. I think 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.679 I love Camille anyway. I love what they did with 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:25.800 her so and we love your Camille as well. He 0:10:25.840 --> 0:10:28.520 did a great job, absolutely, and huge credit to for 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.680 all the research that you did, because you and David 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:35.360 Castro really got to establish what vampires are on our show. 0:10:35.400 --> 0:10:37.080 And this is you know, this is something Dom and 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:40.040 I got to speak about when we were rewatching the episodes. 0:10:40.160 --> 0:10:44.920 But there's so many different iterations of vampires over all, 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.080 across all media, and we got to as you know, 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.640 you got to invent Camille of your own accord. You 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:53.400 and David sort of got to invent what vampires are 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.600 in our world and established and without the two of 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:59.920 you who brought such you especially being the leader of 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:03.840 the vampire clan, who brought so much gravitas and history 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:08.880 and nuance to what that character was, it really set 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.520 us up for you know, success in the future. Oh well, 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.240 thank you. I mean, it was just so fun to 0:11:14.720 --> 0:11:18.360 like read about her backstory, you know, she's been around 0:11:18.360 --> 0:11:21.360 for hundreds and hundreds of years, and you know she's 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.480 mean and evil, but she's sly and like, you know, 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.840 she she had like she had to have charm where 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:30.120 you would just hate her like that, you know that 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:33.480 all the villains are. But yeah, I loved her backstory. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.959 I thought it was amazing. I really loved doing the 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.800 research for her. There's an interesting sort of theological concept 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:44.040 that comes with immortality that eventually you will always end 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:46.640 up being somewhat the bad guy. Like if you look 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.160 over history, if you just human beings and obviously they're 0:11:50.200 --> 0:11:54.240 four theoretically vampire history as well. Watching society make the 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:58.600 same mistakes and repeat things like war and genocide and 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:01.280 you know, all of these horrendous things that just sort 0:12:01.280 --> 0:12:04.560 of keep cycling through history. I don't know how you 0:12:04.600 --> 0:12:06.600 do anything but lose faith, you know what I mean. 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:08.600 I think it's a very easy thing to happen for 0:12:08.960 --> 0:12:11.160 vampires to end up like, yeah, we really don't care 0:12:11.200 --> 0:12:14.240 about these people because they do consistently make the same mistakes, 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:18.120 despite guidance, despite learning from them, and having that mistake 0:12:18.160 --> 0:12:21.800 written down and redivulged in schools again and again and again. 0:12:22.040 --> 0:12:25.040 These mistakes still end up happening. So I there's a 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:28.040 world in which I understand these like jaded vampires who 0:12:28.080 --> 0:12:29.960 are like, yeah, they're just food, Like I'm into that, 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.040 not that that's what I'm into in any way shape 0:12:32.760 --> 0:12:36.239 what I'm saying. No, I think that's so well sad Absolutely. 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.360 I mean, especially for what's going on right now in 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.720 our current state of the world, which is a dark 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.600 I feel a dark time right now. You're right, it's 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:46.079 like history repeats itself, and so when you go through 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.680 that over and over and over again, you you're desensitize. 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.120 You're like, I don't care, Like I'm not even going 0:12:51.160 --> 0:12:53.840 to get attached to you because you'll die or whatever. 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.959 We're great And that's kind of how she looked at life. 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.439 I feel, um, but you're that was so well sadsolutely, 0:13:00.520 --> 0:13:04.240 I hug It's not mine. So someone else's theory. I 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:06.080 can't take any credit for it. I don't remember whose 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:25.679 it was. Person on Wine. Well, there was such an 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.400 intriguing quality that you you brought to Camille, and that 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:33.680 she had this this sense of fashion and gravitas, and 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:35.720 and her look was so much of who she was, 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:38.520 which played into part of our vampire world being that 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.840 they're the collectors of items, but Camille almost seemed like 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:45.679 a collector of people as well, be it Simon or 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:49.880 Raphael or you know, all of these madness even in 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.319 a way, is that something that sort of played into 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.880 the creation of that character or what what what did 0:13:56.880 --> 0:13:58.920 you kind of pull from when you were doing your 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:02.240 your research and everything. Yeah, I mean I love the 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.600 dynamic and the different relationships she had. Like with Simon, 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.000 you know, it was like her she got pure satisfaction 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:12.920 and joy out of tormenting him right until like as 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:16.720 he was especially turning into a vampire. Um. And the 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:20.440 same with with David as well, Like there their relationship 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:24.640 was so like good cop bad cop kind of thing. Um. 0:14:24.800 --> 0:14:26.400 I just like, I don't know, I just wanted to 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.800 make sure that each relationship was played differently, Like she 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.720 treated Simon differently. Then of course Raphael and then Magnus 0:14:32.760 --> 0:14:36.160 was always the one constant that I feel like, I 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:40.600 kind of just felt like Camille, if she were to 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:44.560 even have a heart, it would be like the smallest 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:47.680 amount would be for Magnets. Like there was just that history, 0:14:47.680 --> 0:14:50.040 And I think it's because of the history and the 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.400 going three things over and over again and always you know, 0:14:53.560 --> 0:14:56.960 coming back that I wanted to establish that relationship to 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.640 be completely different than with everyone else. Not to say 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:02.680 that she had a soft spot, but sort of do 0:15:02.720 --> 0:15:04.160 you know, I think like a soft spot in like 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.600 a Camille way, Yeah, a soft of a spot as 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:12.200 Camille can have. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, And maybe she does 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.680 have a softspot, but she would always like hide that, 0:15:14.800 --> 0:15:18.240 you know, and keep it, you know. I think, yeah, 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:22.000 I think that's you know, adding onto that theory we're 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:25.480 talking about earlier, Like I don't think necessarily your sense 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:30.480 of morality or empathy or compassion disappears. I think it's 0:15:30.560 --> 0:15:33.680 just it's jaded, its shadows, like it's something you're like, well, 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.560 I don't need this this thing anymore because it's been 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:39.840 proven to not be effective to me. Um. So I 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:43.120 think Camille absolutely has it. I think it's there, and 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:47.520 I think we just didn't see it very often. She's 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.960 hiding that stuff. I mean, she's been around for hundreds 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.520 of years, so she you know, she has that. She 0:15:53.600 --> 0:15:57.600 just has that like knowledge you know when you yeah, so, well, 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.640 she's a survivor. Speaking of the hundred of years, what 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.880 was it like to do because you guys did didn't 0:16:03.880 --> 0:16:05.760 you do? Like a whole photo shoot sort of through 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:13.680 the years. Yeah, like costumes from likes than now You 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:20.200 and Harry right and did um Yes, Adam, that was 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:24.080 honestly one of my favorite moments. The costume, hair and 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:28.440 makeup was amazing. I wanted so badly. I think originally 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:30.240 it was like we were supposed to have a scene 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.760 where we're at the party in those costumes. Something happened 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.440 we ended up having to, like, you know, just do 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:38.880 the photos and whatever and take the pictures. I just 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.800 thought that that was honestly so amazing. And Camille style 0:16:41.880 --> 0:16:44.280 was always great, but dressing up like in that era 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:48.040 was phenomenal. I love. I really wish I could see 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:51.520 that picture. I can't even like picture right now, I mean, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:54.040 like what it really looks like, but I'm sure we 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.120 could track it down. But how much how much input 0:16:57.200 --> 0:16:59.880 did you get to have as far as can you 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.240 look and the hair and the makeup and the wardrobe. 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:03.640 Did you get to be a part of that process 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:05.280 or did they have it all planned and it just 0:17:05.320 --> 0:17:10.399 somehow worked perfectly on you? Because you're well, the dress, 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:13.359 like that gorgeous dress you wore for the first episode 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.439 was like made for me, so they like literally like 0:17:17.000 --> 0:17:18.640 I didn't have any input on it, but I thought 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.399 it was just the most stunning dress ever. It was 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.520 so gorgeous, like nude under with the black lace over. Um. 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.800 I we definitely were. We were great with like what 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.199 jewelry do you want to weigh? Like, you know, especially 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:34.080 with hair and makeup. Hair was a little less um 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.959 of a thing because I had to like these wigs 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.600 were like so together. It was like two big wigs um, 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:42.360 which was really happy. So I mean like the hair 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.959 was just there. It was just a state before her, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:46.960 which I loved. I mean, I thought it was great. 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.560 But yeah, in terms of like nails and makeup and 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.840 stuff like that, I uh, we definitely worked all together 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.560 to do that stuff. Wardrobe I think was just done. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:58.080 They were like this is this dress was made for 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.480 Camille and um at old photo that we were just 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:04.280 talking about. I don't even remember if I had an option. 0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.520 It was just like this huge, gorgeous green gown and 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:09.479 I was just more excited to be putting it with 0:18:09.520 --> 0:18:13.000 my hair up in that awesome Yeah, and Adam was 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.800 so great, like he was hilarious. I just I really 0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:21.919 loved him and Harry's relationship as well, so it was fun, 0:18:22.760 --> 0:18:25.879 good stuff. Were there characters that you've seen, because you 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:28.720 said obviously that you were a huge fan of vampires 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:33.040 previously vampires or not vampires. Were there characters or people 0:18:33.200 --> 0:18:35.360 or anyone you've met people in your life who did 0:18:35.359 --> 0:18:38.439 you draw on to sort of develop who Camill was 0:18:38.600 --> 0:18:40.680 or was there any some some people some actors don't 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.320 do that. Um, I don't think I draw on anyone 0:18:44.560 --> 0:18:47.720 like personally that I knew, because she was just such 0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.560 like a I mean, I've definitely done that with other characters, 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:52.520 and I don't think. I don't think I know anyone 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:57.120 who's as badass as Camille. I wish I did. Yeah, 0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:58.720 I would be best friends with her, but no, she 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:00.600 I just kind of like it up on the box. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.080 I knew that these these fans were dedicated to these characters, 0:19:04.240 --> 0:19:07.359 and the fans were, as I'm sure you guys can agree, 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.960 are one of the, if not the best, part of 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.040 Shadow Hunters. They were just so incredible. So I just 0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.120 wanted to give her justice and to do her justice. 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.480 So I just really read up and researched what she 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.359 was like and kind of drew from what I would 0:19:21.359 --> 0:19:23.359 imagine she was like, I kind of just meet. I 0:19:23.359 --> 0:19:26.399 don't think I based her on anyone in particular, although 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.960 this is seven years ago. I don't know. Maybe I did. 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.879 I can't really know. It's so funny. That's what we 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.680 keep finding, is like we'll rewatch things and I'll say 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:36.080 something in one of the episodes. Then I'll get to 0:19:36.119 --> 0:19:38.040 another episode and I'm like, that's not what I did, 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:40.000 And now I remember what I did. This is a 0:19:40.040 --> 0:19:42.480 complete lie. What I said in the previous episode. Now, 0:19:42.600 --> 0:19:44.639 this is what I'm talking about, because it was just 0:19:44.800 --> 0:19:49.159 like we started filming, So your episodes, your episodes, you're 0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.480 early episodes, would have been seven years ago, which is 0:19:52.200 --> 0:19:55.800 crazy that seven years, seven years and two kids later 0:19:55.960 --> 0:20:01.080 for you. That's wild. Yeah. Actually, I can't even remember 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.320 what I did on Friday, so I mean, it's remember. 0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:06.840 But this is something that I just have to say 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:09.000 because it's so true for you and for for so 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:12.200 many of the folks on Shadow Hunters. Is the casting 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:15.119 was so brilliant on this show. As someone who you know, 0:20:15.240 --> 0:20:17.720 I read all the books and getting to see all 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:19.960 of these characters being brought in and meeting all of 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:22.760 you often in hair, makeup, boardrobe, costume for the first 0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.400 time and seeing you dive in and bring so much 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:29.199 to it. Everyone cared so much about the characters and 0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:31.920 did all the research. But there's also an inherent quality 0:20:32.040 --> 0:20:35.480 in each person you know, your yourself included. I think 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:36.919 I think you're a lot more of about us than 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:40.000 you give yourself credit for, um and and there's so 0:20:40.080 --> 0:20:43.560 much of of who you are inherently that gave Camille 0:20:43.560 --> 0:20:46.600 that extra little edge, and that extra is something special 0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:49.879 that I think really brought the magic for lack of 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:53.000 a better word, to her on screen. So just thank 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:56.880 you for for being the team player. Sweet Oh my god, 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.680 it was I missed Shadow Hunters so much. I missed 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:03.439 all characters. I really was bummed when we had to stop. 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:06.280 Thank you for saying that. Well, and you were such 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.199 a trooper going through so many different things from you know, 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.679 being in eight inch heels in a graveyard or you know, 0:21:12.760 --> 0:21:16.240 getting locked in a coffin and having to st head off. Yeah, 0:21:16.240 --> 0:21:19.520 I bet right. Yeah, that was actually like one of 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:22.160