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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to betting pros. It's time to place

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Speaker 1: your bets. It's V Joey p Joe, Pisa, Pia, and

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Speaker 1: this is VP NFL. Scott Bogman and I are here

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Speaker 1: to issue a very merry Christmas, and what's merrier than

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Speaker 1: football on Christmas? But unfortunately it looks like the NFL

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Speaker 1: puts some coal in our stockings. These aren't the greatest

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Speaker 1: exlative games for the holiday, which I guess is good

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Speaker 1: because I guess you should spend time with your family

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Speaker 1: But the only way to get through these miserable games

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Speaker 1: I are going to go through these three games, and

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Speaker 1: yes they still count as games here. They might have

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Speaker 1: looked good on paper back in August, but it's December

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Speaker 1: and things have changed. We got Dallas, Washington, Detroit, Minnesota

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Speaker 1: and Denver case. We got backup quarterbacks, Bogs. We've got

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Speaker 1: the slog of the NFL season, basically showing up. You

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Speaker 1: know when you know they have the sleet, you know

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Speaker 1: when it's like the and the snow and the slush.

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Speaker 1: That's what this is.

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Speaker 2: The wintery mix, the wintery mix.

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Speaker 1: That's what the slate ist. Thank you. It's the wintery

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Speaker 1: mix of the NFL this Thursday, Christmas.

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Speaker 2: I like it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, these games did look much better when Netflix bought them.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, probably a year ago, especially that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Chris all Adkin as you're starting quarterback, been

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Speaker 3: on the practice squad the whole year, so better than

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Speaker 3: Shane Bouchelle, who was with them. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: it was last year, a couple of years ago. I

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Speaker 3: know he's been with Kansas City before, but he is

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Speaker 3: on the Buffalo practice squad all year. So yeah, these games,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's a war of attrition right now. You

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Speaker 3: probably need to add a bye week, like we talked

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Speaker 3: about then out of bounds on Fantasy pros.

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Speaker 2: But we don't have that. We don't have the luxury

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Speaker 3: So we went through and looked at these games and

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Speaker 3: picked our favorites here.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we're gonna run through them right now. Let's

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Speaker 1: start with the first one, Dallas at Washington, Washington get

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Speaker 1: plus six and a half on betting pros again, four

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Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys on the road again, you know,

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Speaker 1: backup QB's galore here, fifty one and a half for

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Speaker 1: the under, forty nine and a half for the over.

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Speaker 1: You're getting plus two forty five for the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 1: and the money line Bogs. You know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: bet you can make on this one is probably to

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Speaker 1: go to the over fifty one and a half because

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Speaker 1: I just feel like this time of year, short week,

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Speaker 1: a little less than thrilling. But if you had to

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Speaker 1: I'd be looking for is actually Washington to find a

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Speaker 3: I think both these teams are kind of dead. I know,

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Speaker 3: my buddy, who's a big Cowboys fan, text me and

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Speaker 3: he was like, I'm safe from this team hurting me

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Speaker 3: in January, and that's what I'm happy about. So I

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Speaker 3: just think Dallas is a much better team still at

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Speaker 3: this point in the season. So I'm going to take

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Speaker 3: Dallas on lay the points, even on the road. I

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Speaker 1: Bit, all right, Next one up here is, yeah, it

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Speaker 1: sucks because Dallas and Detroit having to play on both

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Speaker 1: He's like, man, we gotta pay be playing Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that sucks. Yeah, he's absolutely right, that sucks.

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Speaker 1: He does suck good.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a big fan of the games on the

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Speaker 3: we have some discussing games to go over, all right.

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Speaker 1: Well, discussing game number two, which is probably gonna have

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Speaker 1: rosemar under center for the Minnesota Vikings. McCarthy getting a

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Speaker 1: I will take Minnesota here with the Actually, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay on this one. I just think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Lions have respect for themselves. I think

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Speaker 1: Lions of this game. Do you have any inklings on

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Speaker 3: If Max Prosbern plays, I feel pretty I feel pretty

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Speaker 3: good about the Detroit Lions because he has been awful

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Speaker 3: just I gotta take the Lions. This is not even

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Speaker 1: Right, Bogs and I are two for two on that

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Speaker 1: They're like, you know what, we gotta just fresh start.

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Speaker 1: Let's just break up with everybody here. So the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: plus seven hundred for the upset. This was supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: I think that marquee game of the slate being Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: I have serious concerns here about whatever's left here for

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Speaker 1: you're down in the third string quarterbacks, things get very rough. Again.

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Speaker 1: It's a holiday, nobody wants to be there. Denver should

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I could have said it

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Speaker 3: These are lopsided games here, and it's because of the

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Speaker 3: I think it's just an insanely terrible matchup against the

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Speaker 1: All right, Bogs, let's walk through the first prop that

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Speaker 3: I wanted to take the yard ards like I put

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Speaker 3: fairly low here. Bobby Wagner was also a DNP on Monday.

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Speaker 1: All right? Next up here after Ferguson on the board

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Speaker 1: of Scott Bogman, we have Jamior Gibbs seventy two and

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Speaker 1: Now wouldn't be a show with Bogman if we didn't

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