1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Captain Rong. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premier Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain ron. Each week on Beyond Contact, 12 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: we'll explore the latest news in ufology, discuss some of 13 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: the classic cases, and bring you the latest information from 14 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: the newest cases as we talk with the top experts. 15 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: Welcome to Beyond Contact. I'm Captain Rona. Today we're going 16 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 3: to be speaking with Linda Moltenhowe. Linda, of course, is 17 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 3: a legend in our community and is known for her 18 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 3: investigative journalism work on the paranormal. She has done documentaries, films, books, radio, TV, 19 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: and been writing and reporting on these matters concerning science, medicine, 20 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 3: the environment, UFOs, extraterrestrial life, and all sorts of unexplained 21 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: phenomenon for let's just say a very long time. She's 22 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 3: going to be joining us again at contact in the desert. 23 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 3: We're thrilled about it. Hey, Linda, good see you again. 24 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 4: It's great to see you. And it has been half 25 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 4: a century. 26 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. 27 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 4: Yes. And when I think. 28 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: That's a lot of work for a fifty two year 29 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 3: old woman to have fifty years. 30 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 4: Of research, I would like to be in my fifties. 31 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: I am currently after eighty three revolutions around the Sun, 32 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: wishing that I knew a guarantee that I had eighty 33 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 4: three more to not only explore the whole presence of 34 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 4: non humans on Earth, but to go out into the 35 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 4: Solar System and beyond. Because it is a big story 36 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 4: and the question of why don't we know more? I've 37 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:37,119 Speaker 4: reported so much, and my reports have provoked people in 38 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 4: the government, in medicine, in science, in environment to get 39 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 4: in touch with me as an investigative reporter and documentary filmmaker. 40 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 4: And they do it because they can't get answers. And 41 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 4: that takes me back to September of nineteen seventy nine, 42 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 4: I was director of Special Projects at the CBS station 43 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 4: in Denver, Colorado, and I got a call, a phone 44 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 4: call to my office, are you doing any investigation on 45 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 4: these animal mutilations? And it was the very beginning that 46 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: phone call led to my seeking out who is a 47 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: sheriff that I can go to, who is trusted and 48 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 4: can take me and show me what he's finding, the 49 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 4: polaroid photos, all of it. And that led to Sheriff 50 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 4: Tex Graves in northern Colorado, one of those people who 51 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: could be typecasting in a Hollywood film as a trusted 52 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 4: sheriff in a community for years. And when he was 53 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 4: suggested and I drove up there, he had pulled out 54 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: a box had one hundred and sixty six polaroids that 55 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 4: he himself had taken, and he sat down and gave 56 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 4: me a table and I started going through and that 57 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 4: was the very beginning of my interview with him, and 58 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 4: we got to an animal black. He said it was 59 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 4: a black steer and the head was down in a 60 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 4: hole and the body was on dust and there was 61 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: not a track around that body. And I said, how 62 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: does the head, how is it down in a hole. 63 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: He said, that's what the deputy and I ask each 64 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 4: other as we walked up to this animal. Whatever is 65 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 4: doing the animal mutilations has the ability to paralyze from 66 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 4: some place. I think it's craft in the skies and 67 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 4: they're paralyzing these animals and there are no tracks, not 68 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: the animals tracks or whatever is doing this tracks. And 69 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 4: he said, that's why we think it's the beam technology 70 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 4: that ranchers are reporting. They see at night and they'll 71 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 4: see a beam come down and that's when a mutilation 72 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: is occurring. And then he told me, he said, I'll 73 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 4: tell you about the one where I lost sleep. I 74 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 4: called event to go with me. I wanted to do 75 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 4: a knee cropsy in the field and the vet started 76 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: took some tissue samples from where there had been an ear, eye, tongue, jaw, 77 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: genital's rectal tissue that was the pattern of the mutilations. 78 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 4: The vet had taken samples and now he wants to 79 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 4: go in and look at internal organs and starts a 80 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: knee cy internal surgery into the chest and Sheriff Grave said, 81 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 4: I couldn't see clearly. There were shadows, but he said, 82 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 4: suddenly the vet did this pulled up something and said, Sheriff, 83 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 4: this is part of a whole heart. It should be here. 84 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 4: There's no heart in here. I am the first, as 85 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 4: far as I know, to cut into this animal, and 86 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 4: this is it. This is all that is left of 87 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 4: what was a heart. So now you have an animal 88 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 4: that has the classic mutilation excisions, but the entire heart, 89 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 4: which is about the size of a basketball or a 90 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 4: soccer ball, has been taken out of this animal. But 91 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 4: there it was no excisions. And that was the very 92 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:15,680 Speaker 4: first of the interviews, and from that moment on, it 93 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 4: was that description by Sheriff Tech's Graves. It went into 94 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 4: me deeply. I'm going to get to the bottom of this. 95 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: I had done all this medical programming that deserved and 96 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 4: earned a Peabody in Boston, so I loved medicine. But 97 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 4: I had no idea that when I went on my 98 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 4: first trips having to do with animal mutilation, that it 99 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 4: would be taking me into the world of what kind 100 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 4: of physics, what technology do we have on earth that 101 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 4: could do this excise a heart from inside the body 102 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 4: of a large cow without any excisions. That was the glue, 103 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 4: that's what kept me going. And it's now forty five 104 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 4: years later, I often think of that discussion with Sheriff 105 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 4: text Graves and it became probably a walk through some 106 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: kind of psychological door that over the forty five years, 107 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 4: I realized how many planes I got on in how 108 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: many cars to go to pastures where there were animals, 109 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 4: either as bizarre as what Sheriff text Graves showed me 110 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 4: or even stranger, where there would be a mutilation in 111 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: Nebraska and there would be circles camped down in the grass. 112 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: And that joined up by the nineties. So the animal 113 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 4: mutilations really started big time in the sixties, not just 114 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 4: in the United States but all over the world and 115 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 4: continue to this day, but not as much. By the nineties. 116 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 4: Crop formations became another huge phenomena, and I always wondered 117 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: if there was a connection. And a Canadian Royal Canadian 118 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 4: Mounted officer that I talked to by phone called me 119 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 4: up and said, I've just investigated a case and you 120 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 4: have to see the photo, and they sent me a 121 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 4: copy of their form. And this was a animal that 122 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 4: was like a muskrat that was found inside of a 123 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 4: circle of down grass, no other tracks around it, and 124 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 4: it had the same type of excision pattern as other animals. 125 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: So when I think of talking with people in the government, 126 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 4: which I have been able to do and in the military, 127 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 4: about do you understand what is this? Why is this happening? 128 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 4: The closest answer has always been it is a harvest 129 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:58,760 Speaker 4: of chemistries and elements from the blood of these animals, 130 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 4: which is because the blo is taken. And why Well, now, 131 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: as we are talking in twenty twenty five, a colleague 132 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 4: and friend of mine, Whitley Strieber, has said, Linda, if 133 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 4: it hadn't been for your work on cattle mutilations and 134 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 4: the discussions, I might not ever have finally come to 135 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 4: the conclusion that the gray beings that I think have 136 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: well dealt with me, that they probably are responsible for 137 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 4: some of the animal mutilations and they are harvesting materials. 138 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 4: And Whitley has done some investigation at the chemistry level, 139 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 4: and it turns out that the type of copper that 140 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 4: is in the blood of cattle and animals is slightly different, say, 141 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 4: than ours, and that that would be what he thinks, 142 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 4: that the non humans have some need for this particular 143 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 4: kind of copper for sustenance, and that would mean that 144 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 4: this phenomena was extraterrestrials showing up knowing something about this planet, 145 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 4: going out into pastures around the world, apparently not caring 146 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 4: whether humans saw and understood or not. Because it became 147 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 4: a really big, huge subject for quite a while and 148 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: people were afraid. Why wouldn't that have been an excellent 149 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 4: place to introduce to the world. We know that this 150 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 4: is a medical sustenance phenomena. We want to introduce you 151 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 4: and let you know that you don't have to be afraid. 152 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: There is no intent to focus on humans there. 153 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 3: Linda, we got to take a quick break. You're going 154 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: to come back. We're going to talk Linda more about 155 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 3: this and talk more about this whistleblower that she's been 156 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 3: talking with as well. We'll be right back on Beyond 157 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 3: Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 158 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 3: podcast network. We are back on Beyond Contact. We're speaking 159 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 3: with Linda Moulton. Howell, Linda, I understand you're also doing 160 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: some work with a whistleblower who's in the aerospace industry. 161 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: Want to share some of that with us. 162 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,359 Speaker 4: Yes, it is a very important piece and it started 163 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 4: in the year twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen. And it 164 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 4: came through a proton male and in the beginning he 165 00:11:40,840 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 4: was using phony words and all of that for his name, 166 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 4: but he said, my experience has been decades. That is 167 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: what caught my eye, because people who are at the 168 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 4: end of their life many times are more willing to 169 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 4: talk than people who are in the middle or younger. 170 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 4: Unfolded was I set sent questions and then he would answer, 171 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 4: and I got deeper and deeper answers. And one day 172 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 4: he sent me it would be in the category of 173 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: like a scan that you would do in your computer, 174 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: of maybe an ad so nothing original, but he sent 175 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 4: me three of these each one he was identifying Linda, 176 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 4: we have a space force. We have craft that we 177 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 4: have built with the help of the Tall Whites. 178 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: And then before we actually had a space force that 179 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 3: Trump announcidud. 180 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, oh yes, it was before and when he 181 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 4: started describing these craft that were extremely large and we 182 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 4: were getting assistance from the Tall Whites, which are supposed 183 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 4: to be seven to ten feet tall, male and female. 184 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 4: And they're described as being spiritual but extremely strict that 185 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 4: they set rules and if people defy their rules, they 186 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 4: can be perhaps really more than stern and what amazed 187 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 4: me is as that subject started unfolding. And I've never 188 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: had anybody ever in my life talking to me off 189 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 4: the record about a space force. And we're out. We've 190 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 4: been going forty fifty light years with the help of 191 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 4: ets that we are learning how to do dimensional jumps 192 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 4: the way they do. This was an exact quote. He said. 193 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 4: It's complex, but just think of it this way. We 194 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: are in a universe in a dimension, and there are 195 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 4: other dimensions with other universes, and the tall Whites know 196 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 4: how to move frequencies, and its frequencies are the key 197 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 4: to jumping universes and dimensions. And he said, they can 198 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: be in our planet and they can go they want 199 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: to go, let's say forty five light years out. They 200 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 4: know how to do a frequency through a computer that 201 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: will resonate with let's say dimension two, and the computer 202 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 4: is programmed for a frequency match in dimension two, and 203 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 4: then a change in frequency that will match another dimension 204 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: point in dimension four, and they will jump jump through 205 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 4: these resonant frequencies and then the one that they want 206 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 4: to go to that's in our universe fifty five light 207 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 4: years away. The computer was told how to hold a 208 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 4: point in dimension five, that would be the matching frequency 209 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 4: in the Earth when they jumped from dimension five and 210 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 4: they ended up in dimension three at exactly the mathematical 211 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: frequency point. And that they can do these jumps in 212 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 4: fifty five seconds. Oh my god, it's exciting for me 213 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 4: to think that we are headed towards that kind of 214 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 4: physics and this kind of exploration. And meanwhile we are 215 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 4: at a block on the planet where we still are 216 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 4: not even told that we're not alone, and that there 217 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: are extraterrestrials everywhere and life fills this universe, and that 218 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: where I'm hoping that I'm going to learn more about, 219 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 4: even with the help of this current whistleblower whose aerospace. 220 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 4: When The Pentagon released in December of twenty twenty four, 221 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 4: a headline this universe is conscious, and consciousness is energy, 222 00:15:55,280 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 4: and energy cannot be destroyed. And therefore there is a hint. 223 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 4: This was the Pentagon hi int. There is a hint 224 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 4: that reincarnation, the recycling of souls is real, and that 225 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 4: to me is one of the most significant things that 226 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 4: has happened. In the beginning of twenty twenty five, I've 227 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 4: been doing tremendously interesting interviews with people who have been 228 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: studying after life and cases, and it is outside of 229 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 4: the extraterrestrial world in the sense that you don't need 230 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 4: extraterrestrials to investigate after life. But the truth is this 231 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 4: planet has been host to at least three competing civilizations 232 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 4: for two hundred and seventy million years, and we are 233 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 4: at a juncture where there is going to be an 234 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 4: introduction to aspace force, and I'm hoping that they're going 235 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 4: to introduce tall Whites and Nordics with it. Wouldn't that 236 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: be a logical place to introduce the planet where we 237 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 4: all feel that everything is dangerous at the human level, 238 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 4: And if they could say and introduce beings that come 239 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 4: from other Solar systems who are here and are willing 240 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 4: to communicate to us. Finally, yes, we know all about 241 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 4: your planet, and we have other planets that we inhabit, 242 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 4: and let them tell us we are here only to 243 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,640 Speaker 4: protect you, and that some of the ets in other 244 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:37,239 Speaker 4: Solar systems need substances from your planet to survive. That 245 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: would be the next bridge of the government finally coming 246 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: into the picture and saying we're going to agree to 247 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: help ranchers if they have animal mutilations we'll have a fund, 248 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 4: but that it'll all be open now, it won't happen 249 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 4: very often. We are going to collaborate with the Tall 250 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 4: Whites and other people from human beings or entities. We're 251 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: going to communicate with other entities from different solar systems 252 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 4: with you all and the Earth now knowing that we're 253 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 4: not a target, that we actually have helped them and 254 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: they're going to help us. And as far as I know, 255 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 4: I can say those words because I think that is 256 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 4: true for some, but unfortunately it isn't the whole picture 257 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 4: and what the government knows that troubles them that we 258 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 4: all need to know. That's the part now that I 259 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 4: am hoping through conferences we come together, we share information, 260 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 4: then it's not taboo for people to come and listen 261 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 4: to the truth, which should make it so much easier 262 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: for the government of the United States and collaboration with 263 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 4: other governments to finally, hey, we're going to open it up, 264 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 4: and we're going to open it up first minutes with 265 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 4: beings that we know we are working with and collaborating with. 266 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 4: And I have never understood why they haven't done that 267 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 4: before now, but hopefully as we go through twenty twenty five, 268 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 4: repeating themes in remote viewers going back to the end 269 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: of the nineteen eighties into the early nineteen nineties, when 270 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 4: the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency in Washington, 271 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: d C. Had hired a group of remote viewers to 272 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 4: ask them timeline questions into the future extraterrestrials, What is 273 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 4: the fate of the Earth? And Lynn Buchanan, who was 274 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:49,159 Speaker 4: one of those talided remote viewers, in one of the 275 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 4: most memorable interviews I've ever done, said Linda, when you 276 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: get to around twenty five to twenty thirty, something happens 277 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 4: and it affects the whole planet. What would that be? 278 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Speaker 4: Why couldn't telling the whole world now perhaps change a 279 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 4: future that might have a problem trouble Because Lend Buchanan 280 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: and the others always have said the same thing. There 281 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 4: will be something that will affect the whole planet. Could 282 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: it be the introduction of ET's or could it be 283 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 4: the microNOVA from the Sun or something that happens that 284 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 4: would head towards what they call snowball Earth? Is it geophysical? 285 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 4: Is it introduction of ets to humans? 286 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 3: Both are huge, they are I really hope it's the 287 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: introduction of ET's I'll tell you. That's what we're all 288 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 3: here for, right Linda, We're going to take a quick 289 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: break right there. When we come back, we're going to 290 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 3: talk more with Linda about this and maybe ask her 291 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 3: why the government keeps lying about this after all these years. 292 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 3: If you're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and 293 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 3: Coast to Coast AM Normal podcast network, we are back 294 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 3: on Beyond Contact. It's Captain Ron. I have the pleasure 295 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 3: of speaking with Linda Moulton how today. It's been fascinating Linda. Yeah, 296 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: what do you think? Why do they keep lying to us? 297 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: It's been eighty years plus, so what do you think. 298 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 4: I have seen documents that I know that President Dwight D. Eisenhower, 299 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 4: after he was a general in World War Two read 300 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 4: and that other people in the World War Two during 301 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,120 Speaker 4: the war and after they knew Eisenhower knew we were 302 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: dealing with extra terrestrians. And there was a man who 303 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 4: was working in the Navy and his name was William 304 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 4: Mills Tompkins, and he before he died, I did a 305 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: five hour interview with him about government suppression from World 306 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: War Two on of the knowledge that our government knew 307 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,080 Speaker 4: in World War Two. And this is what he said, Linda. 308 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 4: The big truth that this government doesn't want anybody to 309 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 4: deal with or know about is And he said, I'm 310 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 4: going to tell you World War two was an extra 311 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 4: terrestrial war between different civilizations fought through human bodies. And 312 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: he said, the frequency echoes of what happened on this 313 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 4: planet in World War two continues to this day. And 314 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: it was the first time as he said that, and 315 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 4: I believed him. One hundred percent Earth has been humans. 316 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 4: Human population on Earth has been changing so much since 317 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:58,159 Speaker 4: World War Two, and the concept that humanity would be 318 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: so much in conflict that they would even consider nuclear war, 319 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 4: which will end up killing everything everything that is biological 320 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: of co there's no partial nuclear war or explosion. But 321 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 4: if you take William Mills Tompkins sentence world War two 322 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 4: was an extraterrestrial war brought through human bodies, you can 323 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 4: get closer to the truth and what he meant, because 324 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 4: we talked about it for five hours. If there were 325 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 4: still extraterrestrial civilizations coming and going from our planet, basing 326 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 4: inside of Earth in bases in that they're never on 327 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 4: the surface, they're inside our planet. They can go inside 328 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 4: our moon they have been occupying a base inside of Mars, 329 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 4: inside of Ganymede, the large moon of Jupiter. So you 330 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 4: can have an extraterrestrial civilization filling up a solar system 331 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 4: and they just stay internal to bodies and they harvest 332 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 4: from surfaces, and that there was something like that going on, 333 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:10,160 Speaker 4: and it absolutely rang true with the nineteen ninety nine 334 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 4: December discussion that I had with the man from the 335 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 4: Defense Intelligence Agency in the World Bank when they talked 336 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 4: to me for seven hours about the fact that there 337 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 4: were three competing extraterrestrial civilizations on this planet. They knew 338 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: about it. William Mills, Tompkins knew about it, Eisenhower knew 339 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 4: about it. Generals knew about it, and it's all been 340 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 4: covered up, even disdained. 341 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 3: Is that why, because it's so this is so much 342 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 3: bigger than just et coming here what you're talking about now, 343 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 3: Is that why they're keeping it quiet? 344 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 4: Exactly? Yeah, this is the universe is like this, and 345 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 4: we are on an Earth that is being kept a 346 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 4: slightly dumb and blind. And once we we go out, 347 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 4: once we're whether Elon Musk is going to do the 348 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 4: base on Mars or whoever is going to do the 349 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 4: base on Mars. We're going to move out into our 350 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 4: solar system. Because those men said it will become very 351 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: important for humans to get out into space, to get 352 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 4: out into other planets, and not just on Earth and 353 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 4: Earth's moon. And they meant that survival in this universe 354 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 4: is sometimes a question mark because not everything that evolves 355 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 4: and comes to planets like Earth are friendly. They said 356 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 4: that we are dealing with a reptilian branch that is 357 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: extremely mean. They are extremely aggressive. They have been trying 358 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 4: to get rid of certain like gray or blonde, these 359 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: fights for two hundred and seventy million years. And finally 360 00:25:57,119 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 4: as I talk with them, and that seven hours at 361 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: the end, I thought, and I said to one of them, 362 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 4: do you know what it's like? You're making me in 363 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 4: my mind? Look through with a new lens at the 364 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 4: garden of Eden's story in the Bible. It's all true. 365 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 4: The reptiles came into the garden where the man and 366 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 4: the woman were just becoming conscious, and that reptile did 367 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 4: a number on evolving humans from that century through all 368 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 4: the centuries to now. We need to be told the 369 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 4: truth and then maybe a whole congealed supportive human all 370 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 4: humans supporting other humans. Forget boundaries on nations or colors 371 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:56,919 Speaker 4: of skin. Eight billion Homo sapiens knowing the same information, 372 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:04,640 Speaker 4: looking at the same goal. Humanity needs to support humanity 373 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: in order to survive in a very complex universe that 374 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,880 Speaker 4: is filled and teeming with life and consciousness. 375 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: You think it's realistic, though, Would we as humans do that? Yeah? 376 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 3: Would we even let this out and then to see 377 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:25,160 Speaker 3: if this happens? 378 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 4: It's an excellent question. It is the question behind all 379 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 4: of the defensive military and intel people. And I guess 380 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 4: what I'm feeling so strongly is if humans knew more 381 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 4: about their soul, not as poetry, but as a physical 382 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 4: aspect of being a container body being and one that 383 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 4: at the moment of death, because there is recycling, does 384 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 4: transfer into another existence. And that the Pentagon headline may 385 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 4: be getting us ready for more information about what they 386 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 4: already know of the strong soul aspect of humanity. And 387 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 4: that was that headline in December twenty twenty. Fourth that consciousness, 388 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 4: the whole universe is conscious. Our brains are conscious in 389 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 4: that consciousness, and that consciousness is energy. That is the 390 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 4: new definition from the Pentagon of the United States, and 391 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 4: energy cannot be destroyed. It will evolve on. And that 392 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: was the last sentence, which then hints that reincarnation can 393 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 4: be real. 394 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 3: And we've heard this from physicists before. 395 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: Yes, and that is a reason for all of us 396 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 4: to come together at contact and other conferences share these 397 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: ideas in safety, so that we all can continue to 398 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 4: evolve more strongly. If we don't do that, I do 399 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 4: fear that humanity will dissolve in some kind of nuclear war. 400 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a waste when you know that 401 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 4: Homo sapiens can be so incredibly creative and wonderful. The 402 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: Greek said, a gope hug. I say it every day, 403 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 4: a goppe hug to all of my fellow human beings, 404 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 4: and it means I see you as a fellow being 405 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 4: and I would never harm you. 406 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's hope that this happens, because you know what 407 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 3: I mean, we are in danger of blowing ourselves up. 408 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: We've been talking about it for years, and I really 409 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 3: it could be the oppo is it that we think 410 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,959 Speaker 3: people used to fear us knowing about the alien realization, 411 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 3: it may actually save us because that might bring the 412 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 3: world together. As you pointed out, we're going to take 413 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 3: a quick break here, come back for one more segment 414 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: with Linda, and we're going to talk about some really, 415 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 3: really unique stuff that I have not heard before. It's fascinating. 416 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast 417 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 3: to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We are back on 418 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: Beyond Contact speaking with Linda Molten. How fascinating discussion here tonight. Linda, 419 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: can you share with us a little bit about this 420 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 3: incredible thing we've talked about earlier about from your book 421 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 3: about these tubes on the craft that some people you 422 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: had mentioned the soul a few minutes ago. See how 423 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 3: that ties in here. 424 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 4: I can remember it was nineteen ninety two, so I 425 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 4: was getting lots and lots of mail because I was 426 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 4: encouraging people to send them to me. And I would 427 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 4: say that at conferences like Contact or whatever they were, 428 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 4: send me illustrations so I can see through your eyes. 429 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 4: And this one morning, it was an eight and a 430 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 4: half by eleven manila envelope and I cut it off 431 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 4: and I'm looking at beautiful, clean illustration of transparent tubes 432 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 4: with what looked like beings people looks like people in humans, humans, Yeah, 433 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 4: and with it was a very long letter, probably ten 434 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 4: or twelve pages, handwritten by a woman Linda Porter allowed 435 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 4: her name to be used. And she had had an 436 00:31:56,320 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 4: experience of seeing herself that she had had rheumatic fever 437 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 4: when she was a child, and she did not know 438 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 4: until she is abducted and there is a praying madis. 439 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 4: They're gray, small and taller, and she's in a room. 440 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 4: There are other humans. They all seemed to be unconscious 441 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 4: in tubes. And her letter and her illustrations are describing 442 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 4: everything that she saw and what happened, which included telepathy, 443 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 4: telepathic from the praying mantis. And then a gray came 444 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 4: in and she was getting information that they knew that 445 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,720 Speaker 4: she had had this disease as a child, and her 446 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:53,600 Speaker 4: heart was going to kill her, and they communicate that 447 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 4: it is necessary that they take out her current heart 448 00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 4: and put in a new one, and that they wanted 449 00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 4: to do that for her. And she has illustrations that 450 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 4: are in my book Glimpses of Other Realities, Volume two, 451 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 4: And she described for me only two feet from me 452 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 4: the first time we met, and I asked her about this, 453 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 4: I said, I still don't understand exactly how do they 454 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 4: get the heart out of your chest and back in 455 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 4: and tears came to her eyes. I was very close tears, 456 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 4: and she held it. She didn't break down sobbing, but 457 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 4: that was like that, and I knew, I am now 458 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 4: I have to be very careful. This is really, really, 459 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 4: really I've never seen anything like this before. And I 460 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 4: remember this so well because it was so emotionally dramatic. 461 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 4: And her hand came up in front of me and 462 00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 4: she said, this gray being. This is all they do, Linda, 463 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 4: they just did this. I didn't feel anything. And he 464 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 4: came back up like this, and she said it was 465 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: that bad and telepathically, this is your heart and they're 466 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 4: going to repair it. And the next thing that she 467 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 4: knows she is waking up. She is in her body. 468 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 4: What she wasn't clear. And I asked, did they use 469 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 4: the clear tubes in some sort of a medical transition? 470 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,439 Speaker 4: Were they helping people everywhere? Is this why the room 471 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 4: was filled? And Linda Porter and many other people that 472 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: I've talked to who have been in the tubes or 473 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:52,399 Speaker 4: seen the tubes, they're not certain. They're not certain precisely 474 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 4: about what is is this preservation? Is it rejuvenation? One 475 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 4: person suggest in their case that they thought that they 476 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 4: were being turned back in time to younger selves. So 477 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 4: all of the everything having to do with these clear, 478 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 4: transparent tubes has to do with extraterrestrial technology and very 479 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 4: advanced what we would call medical issues. That if they 480 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 4: can take their matter hand and that they're changing the 481 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 4: frequency like the way they jumped dimensions, and that this 482 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: is how the hand went. As she said, imagine my 483 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 4: hand disappearing into my chest and coming out and saying, 484 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 4: look at this, this is my heart. They can do this. 485 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 3: Let me tie into the cattle mutilations you talked about 486 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 3: in the first segment. 487 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 4: And that there are certain chemistries, certain metals, certain something 488 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 4: that might be in life forms on this earth that 489 00:35:54,920 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 4: might not be in Talcetti or someplace. Eventually, as the 490 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: discussion went on and she became more more strong, I 491 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 4: realized that what she was repeating is that they must 492 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:19,440 Speaker 4: have showed her images having to do with that the 493 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 4: part that they interact with we would call the soul matter. 494 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 4: Other people have said this too, and some humans have 495 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 4: a hard time with that and they don't want to 496 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 4: hear it. And then we investigating, we come up to 497 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 4: those lines and we stop reporting because it makes people uncomfortable. 498 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 4: That's why in Glimpses of Other Realities, Volume two came 499 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 4: out I think in nineteen eighty nine, five hundred and 500 00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:58,320 Speaker 4: fifteen pages, color throughout. I wanted to do a book 501 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 4: more than in a documentary. It would have all of 502 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 4: these illustrations from people who I have no question they 503 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,719 Speaker 4: have described what they have experienced with other beings from 504 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 4: other places and do it through their mind and I 505 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 4: their letters, their illustrations, and when you get to the 506 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 4: end of that chapter, it flows very naturally through other 507 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 4: abductees who may not have had their heart taken out, 508 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 4: or some been in a tube. But it comes to 509 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 4: the abduction syndrome that many people in the abductions talk 510 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,760 Speaker 4: about how they were healed. I think it was Jacques 511 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:51,040 Speaker 4: Vallet reported about a doctor in France who was just 512 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 4: so depressed that his knee or his leg was giving out, 513 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 4: and stepped out on a balcony. Saw a light in 514 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 4: the distance, and the light came toward the doctor who 515 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 4: stood on the balcony. A beam of light came down 516 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: to his leg where he hurt. The object went away, 517 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 4: and Valet said, and then he stood, and then he 518 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 4: walked well, how many of those interactions we don't know 519 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 4: because everything is covered up. 520 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 3: They don't report him. Yeah, if we. 521 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 4: Knew, and we let's jump back to William Mills Tompkins 522 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 4: saying World War two was an extraterrestrial war fought through 523 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 4: human bodies fought does not mean they're all enemies to humans. 524 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 4: In fact, the implication and what the CIA or the 525 00:38:52,400 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: NSADIA and World Bank said that if humans understood that 526 00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 4: there were non humans who had been involved in the 527 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:12,600 Speaker 4: evolution on this planet, including to the creation of humans 528 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,399 Speaker 4: Homo sapien, and that that is why they harvest from 529 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 4: this planet. This is why they come and go, this 530 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 4: is why they have a base. They were here long 531 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 4: before Homo sapien. But where government, religion, and political institutions 532 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 4: have said no one, this is not true, and we 533 00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:37,720 Speaker 4: don't talk about it, we are now at twenty twenty 534 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 4: five with sort of crippled because if you take all 535 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 4: of William Mills Tompkins's incredible work about World War Two 536 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 4: and you juxtapose it today on twenty twenty five, what 537 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,600 Speaker 4: he meant was a war is still going on, a 538 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:04,440 Speaker 4: war between reptilians, tall white certain grades. It's still going on. 539 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 4: It's just not in our face like World War Two. 540 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 3: Linda, thank you for sharing all of this with us. 541 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 3: We really appreciate it, really really enjoyed your insights, and 542 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 3: we're going to looking forward to all your talks at Contact. 543 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 3: That's going to be very exciting. Here. You guys can 544 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,959 Speaker 3: find Linda at earthfiles dot com. She's still doing that show. 545 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,720 Speaker 3: It's still incredible, and you can find me on Twitter 546 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: and Instagram at Contact in the Desert Underscore Captain Ron. 547 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,439 Speaker 3: Stay connected by checking out Contact Intheesert dot com. 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