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Speaker 2: for business. Kentucky is bringing back John KELLIPERI it felt

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Speaker 2: like he was almost campaigning to get his job back

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Speaker 2: decided that I'm going to bring John back. He's got

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Speaker 2: one of the top two or three recruiting classes come in,

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Speaker 2: but then he has that every year and it hasn't

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Speaker 2: produced results, produced NBA players, but hasn't produced results. So

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Speaker 2: is he basically getting back into the same routine that

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Speaker 2: he's had for over a decade now? And are you

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Speaker 2: expecting different results? There? Can he use the transfer portal?

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Speaker 2: There are players who are in the portal now, and

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Speaker 2: from what I was told yesterday, a source said, there

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Speaker 2: playing someplace else because they've already discussed what it's going

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Speaker 2: me or if you want to keep me, this is

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Speaker 2: the going rate. That's what's going on now as we speak.

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Speaker 2: All quiet on the Otani front as the Dodgers get

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Speaker 2: ready to reopen the season. LA Times and ESPN still

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Speaker 2: digging and they're not going away. NFL developments this week,

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Speaker 2: we've talked about, obviously the kickoff. That's big news, and

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Speaker 2: now we're going to have at least movement on a

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Speaker 2: kickoff as opposed to a touchback or the potential for that.

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Speaker 2: And they also are looking at review of roughing the

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Speaker 2: passer and I think there's still language to be worked

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Speaker 2: out with that, but it amounts to an emergency review

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Speaker 2: of a roughing the passer call. But you know, just

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Speaker 2: some of the things happening there, And certainly you get

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Speaker 2: all the coaches together, you get front office people, owners,

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Speaker 2: the reporters, and then you start to hear what's happening

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Speaker 2: with the draft. Now you start to get a real

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Speaker 2: sense of what is going to happen. If there are

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Speaker 2: mock drafts that you'll find that probably came out a

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Speaker 2: month ago or six weeks ago that probably didn't have

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Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy in the first round. Maybe Michael Pennix not

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Speaker 2: in the first round. But this is where you get

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Speaker 2: to be around them. That when the scouts turn their

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Speaker 2: attention to the players, that's when you start to get

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Speaker 2: real movement here where you understand if a team really

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Speaker 2: likes somebody, or teams really like somebody. JJ McCarthy has

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Speaker 2: been the same quarterback that he was since the ninth

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Speaker 2: title game, hadn't played a game. But now interviewing now

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Speaker 2: you start to ask people close to JJ McCarthy, You're

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Speaker 2: going to find out about teammates. This is what's going

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Speaker 2: on at USC with Caleb Williams. The teams are asking

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Speaker 2: players who played with Caleb Williams. People around Caleb Williams.

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Speaker 2: You want to find out what kind of person? Is

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Speaker 2: he a good person to the people He has to

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Speaker 2: to everybody? Like? Little things like that. That's what they're

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Speaker 2: curious about that you got measurables medicals. Although Marvin Harrison

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Speaker 2: So a little more player empowerment there maybe, But these

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Speaker 2: teams are trying to find out exactly who are these

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Speaker 2: people that we're drafting. I can look at you on tape,

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Speaker 2: I don't know you, and they want to make sure

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Speaker 2: that you're bringing in somebody that you're going to be

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Speaker 2: the face of the franchise. But JJ McCarthy, this is

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Speaker 2: a rocket ascension there, really surprising a lot of people

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Speaker 2: because my source said, I want to see more because

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Speaker 2: I didn't see it at Michigan. Yes, he won, they

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Speaker 2: won a national title, but there's questions on some throws

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Speaker 2: that he can make. Now this is, you know, getting

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Speaker 2: really deep into the weeds here, but certain past patterns.

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Speaker 2: Drake May and Caleb Williams don't have that knock against them.

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Speaker 2: Bo Nicks, I was told armstrength could be an issue,

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Speaker 2: like okay, but these are the people who are checking everything.

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Speaker 2: It's like they got a box there of I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: check everything with this guy, pros and cons. So now

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Speaker 2: we're getting into the weeds with these not only quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: but also you know, position players. Yes, Marv, have you.

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Speaker 3: Ever talked to a GM that maybe said they overthought

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Speaker 2: I have not had that. I've had a scout tell

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Speaker 2: me that, but not a GM, not a coach. I

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Speaker 2: thought that that happened with c J. Stround because I

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Speaker 2: kept thinking, I'm watching he looks really good against really good,

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Speaker 2: Michael Pennix, he didn't have a good playoff game. I

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Speaker 2: know he's got the two knee surgeries. But there's two

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Speaker 2: people that I spoke to who do this for a living,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's assessing draft picks. They love him. They

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Speaker 2: said as far as throwing the football, nobody throws the

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Speaker 2: ball better than him, And I go, okay, and then

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Speaker 2: they talk about, well, you know, you can do three layers,

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Speaker 2: like different layers down the field. He make all the

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Speaker 2: throws there. Now, he's not athletic. I think people get

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Speaker 2: caught up at all. You know, is he like Michael Vick. No,

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Speaker 2: he's not. He's left handed, that's it. But they really

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Speaker 2: like him. Jayden Daniels. It feels like it's his frame

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Speaker 2: that you know, we had this with Bryce Young. Is

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Speaker 2: he going to be able to withstand you know, seventeen games. Well,

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Speaker 2: nobody really withstands seventeen games anymore. It's rare when your

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Speaker 2: quarterback survives. But you know, these are just some of

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Speaker 2: the little, you know, dribs and drabs that I'm getting

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Speaker 2: from these guys. But their job is to assess the

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Speaker 2: talent that they're seeing, not just quarterbacks. You know, I

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Speaker 2: mentioned Alt from Notre Dame Scout said, you can't miss

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Speaker 2: you just plug him in and that's it. You never

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Speaker 2: have to worry about that position again for another decade. Well,

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Speaker 2: that is something that I think and Namor's Jim Harball.

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Speaker 2: I want to play power football and I'm going to

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Speaker 2: do it in the NFL and nobody's doing that. But

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Speaker 2: that's what we're going to do. That's who we are

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Speaker 2: flashy Chargers where everybody thinks, man, this is the year,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, we don't do anything. He wants

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Speaker 2: to get players, you know, he wants them to fit

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Speaker 2: a lot of teams will go, we'll kind of adapt

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Speaker 2: our system to the quarterback we're going to take. Jim

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Speaker 2: who are fit into the system we want to play.

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Speaker 2: But that's just some of the information that I've gotten

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Speaker 4: Yes, Pauline, I always wonder because this time of the

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Speaker 4: year they kind of had these mock drafts, and they

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Speaker 4: all generally look like each other. You know, Jaj McCarthy's

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Speaker 4: in the top ten. But I could find mock drafts

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Speaker 4: last year at this time that had Will Levis in

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Speaker 4: of the second round. I don't have any of them

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Speaker 4: dropping out to where he dropped. I have mock drafts

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Speaker 4: from this time last year from reputable organizations that don't

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Speaker 4: have Let's see who was at the quarterback who went

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Speaker 4: to the cult, Anthony Richardson. He's not in the top

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Speaker 4: ten in any of them, and he went fourth overall.

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Speaker 4: You know, I got mock drafts where I could find

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Speaker 4: remember Smith from West Virginia, he Gino Smith was top

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Speaker 4: ten all over the place.

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Speaker 2: Well, he was going to be number one overall.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, people had him number one. People had him top

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Speaker 4: ten all over the place, and he doesn't get drafted

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Speaker 4: in the first round. They're drastically wrong, some of them.

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Speaker 2: It's wild. Yeah, it's why it's called a mock drive.

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Speaker 2: We mock them. Yes, I mocked you, Yes, yes.

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Speaker 2: Strouder.

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Speaker 3: Deshaun Watson seemed like those guys that were hiding in

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Speaker 3: plain sight. Yes, like, wait, you guys didn't see the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: I'm always flabbergasted by the Mitchell Trubisky Deshaun Watson fiasco.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Mark, Yes, oh sorry.

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Speaker 3: About that, Like he played against Alabama and any kind of.

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Speaker 2: Will Thanks Mark. A couple of phone calls in here,

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Speaker 2: Uh Shawn and Indiana's back. Hi, Sean, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 5: Hey, good morning, Dan. The verdio is doing good with

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Speaker 5: the way you ended that last hour.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure you should have even showed up today.

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Speaker 2: Whoa whoa, whoa shot at Todd? There a little man

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Speaker 2: that's a lisp from Sean. Okay, you know what just happened.

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Speaker 2: Tyler hung up on him because he made fun.

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Speaker 7: Of You's got my back.

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Speaker 2: He's also who led him on.

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Speaker 4: That's true, So here's your front.

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Speaker 7: Not really, he said he was going to talk in

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Speaker 7: a normal voice about the Lakers. That's how what he said.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna say to me, Yeah, oh, I know. I

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Speaker 2: always feel bad when somebody sleep sneaks through and then

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Speaker 2: tyers like he told me he was gonna talk about

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Speaker 2: something else. I go, yeah. Yeah. By the way, the

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Speaker 2: Lakers they won last night, thank in case you care.

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Speaker 2: They came back from what nineteen down beat the Bucks

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Speaker 2: without Lebron in there, and they trailed by nineteen in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter, and the first lead of the game

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Speaker 2: to nineteen remaining in the first overtime. Let's see a

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Speaker 2: couple more phone calls in here, Jason and Nebraska. Hi Jason,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

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Speaker 6: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 4: Dan?

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Speaker 6: That's love you guys. Hey, Fritzy, love the I'm not

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Speaker 6: paying attention bit. Keep that up. It's the look on

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Speaker 6: Dan's face every time. This is priceless.

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Speaker 7: I'm glad you appreciate the bit.

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Speaker 6: And then man, I got a high in the face

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Speaker 6: that hopefully it's Polly and Fritzy. I'm a New York

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Speaker 6: Giants fan, so I'm going to say the New York

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Speaker 6: Giants have a better record than the Chicago Bears and

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Speaker 6: the Denver Broncos pie in the face if I'd miss

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Speaker 6: them both or one of them.

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Speaker 2: Whatever, anybody want a piece of Jason in Nebraska, Todd,

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Speaker 2: do you think the Broncos will have a better record

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Speaker 2: than the Giants?

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Speaker 7: I don't feel good about that.

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Speaker 8: I think they're going in the wrong direction flow maybe

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Speaker 8: a couple of years, then they're going to turn it ound.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Giants are in a wrong direction.

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Speaker 7: Denver could easily go five and twelve.

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Speaker 2: Won't be shocked, Polly, Your Bears won seven games last year.

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Speaker 2: You're going to bring in Caleb Williams. You got all

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Speaker 2: this talent, and will they have a better record the

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Speaker 2: Bears than the Giants.

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Speaker 4: I don't feel good about this bet either, but I

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Speaker 4: will take it for the fun of it.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Jason Paly says that he'll take

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Speaker 2: the Bears over the Giants and then the Giants. See,

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Speaker 2: here's another thing. The Giants are kind of a wild

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Speaker 2: card here too. Can they get into the top four

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Speaker 2: if they want to take a quarterback? What if they

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Speaker 2: have the sixth pick overall? Yeah, the Danny Dimes thing

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Speaker 2: didn't go well. I think they're worried about his health

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Speaker 2: to start the season as well, and no Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 2: which means he'll be even more exposed, but feels like

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Speaker 9: A DP?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to play another member of the media.

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Speaker 7: You and Daniel Day.

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Speaker 4: You were taller. I think you're taller than Daniel day Long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that helps. Yeah, Yeah, how tall was Lincoln?

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Speaker 2: Was he six two six?

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Speaker 7: About his wingspand than his height to think.

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Speaker 2: Checking? Is he the tallest president? Six four?

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Speaker 4: Let's go, yeah, multiply four day sixty four? James Madison

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Speaker 2: Listed, but Donald Trump has got to be six.

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Speaker 2: Embarrassing Marty m Yeah, they made fun of him. Yeah, yeah, they're.

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Speaker 7: Pretty good hops though.

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Speaker 4: If I recall Mary, could Handler good handle Wildrow Wilson

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, there was one. Yes, he's listed five to ten.

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Speaker 7: Yes, I thought Polk was a little underrated.

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Speaker 2: James James K five eighty special k akp What did

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Speaker 4: Polk James Knox Polk knocks. That's a strong, sturdy name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say Kendrick Kendrick Hendrick.

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Speaker 4: James Kendrick Pulk.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we solved absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 4: I heard that Ulysses s. Grant's real first name was

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Speaker 4: it's actually Hiram Ulysses Grant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's not getting he's not getting hired.

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Speaker 7: No, either, one of those first damns isn't great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but Ulysses I'm okay with that. But Hiram Ulysses

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Speaker 2: is like a God's name. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, but

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Speaker 4: How did Herbert Hoover get elected with the first name

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Speaker 4: of Herbert Herbert Clark Hoover. You Clark Hoover. You're getting

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Speaker 8: But you know what happens with the grant once you

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Speaker 8: hire him? Eventually gotta fire him.

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Speaker 4: He's like, he's not him that his name.

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Speaker 3: Hire him?

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Speaker 2: Ye, Presidents don't get fired.

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Speaker 4: Hiram ulysses Grant.

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Speaker 2: Alrighty, there's a.

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Speaker 7: Paper boy there.

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Speaker 8: Where's the president? Then he got fired because I was

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Speaker 8: delivering the papers to the wrong.

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Speaker 2: How is your day going so far?

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Speaker 7: Slowly going in the wrong direction?

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 4: I have Abraham Lincoln with no middle name.

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Speaker 2: Back to you.

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Speaker 4: I'm checking Abraham Lincoln. Just too busy to have a

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Speaker 2: When we come back, the strategy behind the new kickoff

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Speaker 2: More of your phone calls coming up. Darren Rizzy is

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Speaker 2: the Saints special teams coordinator. We figured let's start strategizing

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Speaker 2: of how we can take advantage of this new kickoff here. So, Darren,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. Before I get to the new kickoff,

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Speaker 2: did the Saints practice kickoff returns during the season, even

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: The interesting part, Dan is that actually we practice. Most

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Speaker 10: of the coordinators practice very similar to the way the

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Speaker 10: and so yeah, we did. You know, we practiced in

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Speaker 2: All right, help us understand how you would strategize taking

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Speaker 10: Well, I think the first thing is that one of

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Speaker 10: it should be is that there's actually some restrictions to

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Speaker 10: the kickoff formation and the kickoff return formation. So we

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Speaker 10: really wanted to have it look like a clean play,

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Speaker 10: there are some restrictions to the formations, so it's a

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Speaker 10: little bit hard to get too creative. I think the

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Speaker 10: one the largest discussion we had as special teams coaches

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Speaker 10: When I say that, I mean some maybe some some

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Speaker 10: easier is that we have two returners back, unlike the

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Speaker 10: XFL that they only had one, and that was a

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Speaker 10: big part of the rule. But I think one way

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Speaker 2: What you're saying is there's more strategy for the kickoff

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Speaker 10: Correct Now, I do think we enabled the return team

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Speaker 10: to have more creativity by our formation rules, and that's

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Speaker 10: one of the biggest differences. I know everybody's comparing it

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Speaker 10: but we allowed for much more creativity. But I do

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Speaker 10: think you'll see a little bit of a cat and

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Speaker 10: early on when people are trying to tinker and figure

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Speaker 2: Can you fair catch in any scenario?

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Speaker 10: No, So under this new rule, there's no fair catch.

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Speaker 10: So if the ball lands in that landing zone between

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Speaker 2: I love that. Well, let me ask you, what do

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Speaker 10: I'm a big fan. I got to be else, probably

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Speaker 10: quite frankly. And then you start to, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of like the extra point that it

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Speaker 2: of you know, you've got a lot of violent collisions

437
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Speaker 2: in that that's probably the second most dangerous play aside

438
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Speaker 2: from the kickoff.

439
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

440
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Speaker 10: Dad, So after every year since I guess the last

441
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Speaker 10: eight years I've been on the part of this special

442
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Speaker 10: team subcommittee, we look at actually all the injury data,

443
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Speaker 10: and you're right, there are the punt play. The injuries

444
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Speaker 10: are have been different, if you will, on punt and kickoff,

445
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Speaker 10: but the injury rates are similar, and so on the

446
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Speaker 10: punt play on these long runs you're getting guys with

447
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Speaker 10: hamstrings and lower body extremities, where the concern of the

448
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Speaker 10: kickoffs was really more from the neck up and some

449
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Speaker 10: of the head injuries. So yeah, there's been a lot

450
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Speaker 10: of ways. There's been a lot of talk about the

451
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Speaker 10: punt play as well, and it's really a work in progress.

452
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Speaker 10: We try to make tweaks every year to make the

453
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Speaker 10: play a little bit safer.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Darren Rizzy, he's the Saints special teams coordinator.

455
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Speaker 2: How do you know somebody is going to be good

456
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Speaker 2: on the kickoff team as far as going down there

457
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Speaker 2: and tackling.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think, you know, under the old rule was

459
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Speaker 10: one of those things where you really wanted to get

460
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Speaker 10: guys that were fast down the field and have that

461
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Speaker 10: have the ability to get down the field, you know,

462
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Speaker 10: while the balls in the air and the hangtime. I

463
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Speaker 10: think what you'll see under the new role, dan is,

464
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Speaker 10: I think you'll see some people kind of playing with

465
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Speaker 10: their personnel a little bit. You might actually see some

466
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Speaker 10: guys on the kickoff team that maybe under the old

467
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Speaker 10: rule didn't play. Or maybe there's some teams there's you know,

468
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Speaker 10: three four defenses might have some bigger players, some outside linebackers,

469
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Speaker 10: some defensive ends. You might start to see some of

470
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Speaker 10: those guys trickle in a little bit because of the

471
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Speaker 10: close quarters you know of the play and so listen,

472
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Speaker 10: one of the biggest things for us is the ability

473
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Speaker 10: to avoid and then obviously the ability to get guys

474
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Speaker 10: on the ground, so you know, most of the time

475
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Speaker 10: you see primarily defensive players, but now you might see

476
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Speaker 10: some offensive guys kind of trickle in there as well.

477
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Speaker 2: The status of the on side kick.

478
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Speaker 10: Is what, well, the surprise onside kick is out right,

479
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 10: so there's no there's no way you can surprise outside

480
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Speaker 10: kick under this model. But I think the one thing

481
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Speaker 10: that everybody needs to understand is there was only two

482
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Speaker 10: surprise onside kicks last year in the league. Teams were

483
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Speaker 10: zero for two. In the last five years, I think

484
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Speaker 10: there was fifteen if I'm not mistaken, and the stats

485
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 10: were two for fifteen. When we change and rules back

486
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Speaker 10: at twenty eighteen, we made it very, very difficult to

487
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Speaker 10: recover a surprise outside So the outside at the end

488
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Speaker 10: of the game. The way the rule reads right now

489
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Speaker 10: is if you go into the fourth quarter and you

490
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Speaker 10: are trailing and you want to try to get the

491
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Speaker 10: ball back, simply you tell the officials we're going to

492
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Speaker 10: declare an outside kick. You go back now to the

493
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Speaker 10: old rules, the old formation, and we're back to a

494
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Speaker 10: regular onside kick as the fans would know it, a

495
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Speaker 10: quote unquote normal onside.

496
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Speaker 2: Kick you could draft anyone all time to be your

497
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Speaker 2: kick returner, who would it be.

498
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Speaker 10: I gotta go with hiss he, I gotta go ahead.

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Speaker 10: I go Hester one. And listen, Quarterel Patterson as a

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Speaker 10: guy that the Steelers signed yesterday. If those were my

501
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Speaker 10: two guys back in this model, we'd be we'd be

502
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Speaker 10: just fine. I've had a chance to coach against both.

503
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 10: Those guys are both out standing. I would probably have

504
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,159
Speaker 10: to give Devin a little bit of a tick, but

505
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 10: man Corterell is really good too.

506
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Speaker 2: And you know, with the kickoff rules, Hester never would

507
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,919
Speaker 2: have become a Hall of Fame player, you know that.

508
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 10: You're talking about under the old rules.

509
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, with that, yeah yeah.

510
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Speaker 10: And I think it's kind of ironic that in the

511
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,719
Speaker 10: year that he's going into the Hall of Fame, we're

512
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 10: getting this play back to it. You know, I think

513
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 10: the fans probably you forget as late as twenty ten,

514
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 10: there was an eighty percent return rate, and we've completely

515
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 10: flipped that over the course of the last decade or so,

516
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,639
Speaker 10: where now we're eighty percent touchback or fair catch, and

517
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 10: so that's what that's the whole goal of this play

518
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 10: dam was to get this playback, and you know, we

519
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,479
Speaker 10: made a little tweak there at the end. There were

520
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 10: some coaches that felt like that thirty five yard touchback

521
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 10: was a little bit too punitive, and so for this

522
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 10: first year, we're going to make that touch back to thirty.

523
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,960
Speaker 10: I think that'll knock some of the plays off. But

524
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Speaker 10: you know, I said yesterday, if we had two thousand

525
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Speaker 10: non plays last year, even if we get a fifty

526
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 10: percent turn rate, we're gonna we're gonna infuse it and

527
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 10: add another one thousand plays into the season. I think.

528
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 10: I think that's great for everybody, coaches, players, fans, everybody.

529
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Speaker 2: I remember talking to Tony Dunee about when he was

530
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: in the Super Bowl and deciding if they were going

531
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: to kick to Devin Hester, and he said, we're not

532
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 2: kicking to him, we are not going to kick to him.

533
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 2: Then they decided at the last minute they were going

534
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: to kick to him, and he returns the opening kickoff back.

535
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Speaker 2: It's got to be one of those where, you know,

536
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 2: do you get yelled at? How often would you get

537
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: yelled at if somebody returned to kick, you know, against

538
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: your special teams.

539
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 10: I think some of the fans would probably love to

540
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 10: hear those audios of special teams coaches getting yelled at. Yeah. Oh,

541
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 10: I've been yelled at plenty of times, no question. I've

542
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 10: been doing this for I've been coaching now thirty years,

543
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 10: you know, sixteen dollars fifteen NFL, and I've been yelled

544
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 10: at my fair share of times. And so listen, it happens.

545
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 10: And that's going to be kind of the one of

546
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 10: the unique things about the strategy. I think at the

547
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 10: end of games, in those close games, what do I do?

548
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 10: Do I get done the ball to or do I

549
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 10: try to kick it down there at the landing zone

550
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 10: and go tackle? And so I think that'll be a

551
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 10: little bit of a unique, you know thing for the fans.

552
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 10: But I think it makes for you know, must CETV

553
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 10: where you knew this past year while they're just going

554
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 10: to get a touch back, and you know, the Super

555
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 10: Bowl is the best example. You know, there's thirteen touchbacks

556
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 10: where now it's okay, how what's the coach going to do?

557
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 10: Is you gonna opt to get in the ball in

558
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 10: a thirty or are they going to go try to

559
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 10: cover and pin it back? So it adds a little

560
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 10: bit more strategy to it.

561
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 2: Darren thank you for your time. Thanks for the insights.

562
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Speaker 2: We appreciate it.

563
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 10: Dan, thanks for having me. I really appreciate you. Thank

564
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 10: you so much.

565
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 2: Darren Rizzy, Saints Special teams coordinator. Yeah, the gamesmanship, It'll

566
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 2: be interesting to see how certain teams take advantage of this.

567
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 2: Do you change your draft? Do you go after certain players?

568
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: Are certain guys that Darren talked about normally not on

569
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 2: the kickoff team, but now with the close proximity, maybe

570
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: you want a different style body type up close. There

571
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: a couple of phone calls in here eight seven to

572
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: seven three DP show Maser in Iowa. Hey Maser, what's

573
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: on your mind?

574
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: Hey?

575
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 7: Not much?

576
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 5: Five nine, I'm mysterious. One eighty eight Hey, question when

577
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 5: you did the rope seat and grown ups, was that

578
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 5: a stunt body? Did you get tagged out for that

579
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 5: non flattering shot or was that all you?

580
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 1: Well?

581
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,919
Speaker 2: I was the gym teacher and then I asked the

582
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: students if they want to watch me climb a rope.

583
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: And I had these really tight shorts, short shorts, and

584
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 2: there was a stunt double and that's what he did.

585
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 2: He was a stunt man and he went up the

586
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 2: rope there in a non flattering way. But yes, I

587
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: had a butt double. This is what I did.

588
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 4: Yes, Paul, did you try to tom cruise it and

589
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 4: do your own stunts?

590
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: No? I did not. No, I did not.

591
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 9: No.

592
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't going to win because either way people were

593
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 2: going to think that that's me climbing the rope in

594
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 2: the movie. And I just thought, you know what, let

595
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 2: me look athletic, even though that's not me going up

596
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 2: the rope instead of struggling. It'd be bad. You're the

597
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: gym teacher climbing a rope and you can't climb the rope.

598
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: But yeah, Sandler, of course. And then he had me

599
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 2: the tightest shorts that you could possibly have, and I go,

600
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: I said, Sandman, these are tight shorts. He goes, I know, Danny.

601
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: I like, all right, I guess I get the joke there, Sandman.

602
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 2: A couple of more phone calls here Clint in Bakersfield,

603
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 2: Hi Clint, what's on your mind today?

604
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 5: Hey Dan, thanks for taking my call, five eleven, two thirty.

605
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 5: Thank you. I had a quick take on the so

606
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: called Kyrie irving of President.

607
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 2: Oh okay, and.

608
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,719
Speaker 5: I'm going to go with Ronald Reagan because prior to

609
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 5: becoming president he was an athlete, he was an actor,

610
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 5: and he was also enlisted in the military at one point,

611
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 5: so I think that makes him up there with some

612
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 5: of the most skilled.

613
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: Wasn't he a sportscaster as well? I think he did

614
00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: a lot of things. Actor, sportscaster, served in the military,

615
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 2: the Kyrie irving of presidents.

616
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Speaker 7: That's new.

617
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 2: It is that that is a category that not many

618
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 2: people are discussing today.

619
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: I was thinking of, yes, yeah, Ronald Reagan went to

620
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 4: college to study economics and sociology. But right after college

621
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 4: he took a job as a sportscaster for the Big

622
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 4: Ten Conference's football games. Then he worked at a station

623
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 4: in Des Moines and he called Chicago Cubs games.

624
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: Started screw how about that, mister Gorbychoff Tier down this

625
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 2: wool LB in Utah, Hi, LB, what's on your mind?

626
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 9: I'm at a comment or question about sports betting. Okay,

627
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 9: what I understand the issue with the prop bets, the

628
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 9: over numbers, But what would be the issue with letting

629
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 9: sports or athletes bet on themselves to win the games?

630
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: Outright?

631
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 9: Whenn't that enticed them to compete and play more.

632
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't think we want to get into that you know,

633
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 2: because there might be a situation where somebody bets the

634
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: other way, like they're able to control this. I just

635
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: think that players are paid enough to be able to

636
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: want to perform enough that I don't need to incentivize

637
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 2: you by saying, hey, bet on yourself. I mean, bet

638
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 2: on yourself with a contract. I just we're blurring the

639
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: lines here, like even that we're talking about this, I

640
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 2: just think we're not at a breaking point. But we

641
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 2: really need to have a lifeguard on duty. And that's

642
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: the problem. Look at what's happened in college sports, college

643
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: football and college basketball. There's no lifeguard on duty. And

644
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 2: now everybody goes, wait a minute, what happened here. It's

645
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: been happening right in front of this. That's what I

646
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: worry about. Gambling. There's no lifeguard on duty. Everybody's going, Yeah,

647
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: let's gamble, let's bet. Everybody can bet. I can do

648
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: it on my phone. Hey, my state just got it.

649
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 2: This is awesome. Here, got to have a bet on

650
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Here, if you have this code, you

651
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 2: get one hundred and fifty dollars in bonus bets. Yeah,

652
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: how can you lose? Yes? Tom?

653
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 8: And like if you're winning by five in the NBA

654
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Speaker 8: and you have to win by at least seven. Instead

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Speaker 8: of dribbling out the final seconds, you're yelling at your teammate,

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Speaker 8: we're not trying to hit a three.

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Speaker 7: So because you had the spread to go.

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Speaker 2: To eight, we can't entertain this. No, we cannot entertain this.

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Speaker 2: It's just let's just play sports. You want to bet,

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Speaker 2: you're allowed to bet depending on your state, and leave

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Speaker 2: it at that. But if we're going to be like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you got to bet on yourself and over unders and no,

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Speaker 2: I mean the NBA, this is a mess. Just the

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Speaker 2: fact that you can have a player who is doing this, Now,

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Speaker 2: what kind of punishment do you give him? You suspend

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Speaker 2: him for a year? Do you kick him out forever?

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Speaker 2: Because what happens If it's a marquee player, then you're

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Speaker 2: going to kick him out. But I think this is

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Speaker 2: a really big issue here. But it's good because you

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Speaker 2: have legalized gambling because they saw this, they found this.

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Speaker 2: If you don't have this, then maybe you know, he's

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Speaker 2: making four hundred thousand dollars a year and you're saying,

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Speaker 2: well that's enough. The guys he's playing with are probably

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Speaker 2: making you know, five to ten times that, and then

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Speaker 2: he's looking around going I'd like to make some more

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Speaker 2: money here, and here's twenty thousand dollars. You do that

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Speaker 2: a couple of times. I mean, it's really a dangerous

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Speaker 2: time right now because we have relaxed our I guess

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Speaker 2: viewpoint of gambling now it's just commonplace. That's what makes

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Speaker 2: me nervous. Everybody thinks that everybody should be able to

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Speaker 2: do it, and what's the big deal. Hey, I bet

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Speaker 2: a couple thousand dollars on a game that I was in. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's a big deal. We don't even know what the

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Speaker 2: story is with Otani yet, there's still a lot of

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Speaker 2: questions there. Maybe there's more to that. So I just

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Speaker 2: think that we can't become lax where we just go, yeah,

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Speaker 2: well that's not a big deal. Yeah, it is what

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Speaker 2: happens if an official wants to throw a game. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I decided to call a couple of more holding penalties,

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Speaker 2: whatever it might be. Or an NBA official. You already

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Speaker 2: had Tim Donaghe. Do you think Tim Donaghe is the

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Speaker 2: only official? No, I would never think that. So that's

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Speaker 2: where you got to. You know, sometimes we go, well,

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Speaker 2: the guys who are making money would never do this.

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Speaker 2: That's not who I'm worried about. It's the guys who

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Speaker 2: don't make money. That's the people I worry about. Take

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Speaker 2: a break. Last call for phone calls back after this.

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Speaker 2: Nc DOBA President Charlie Baker released the following statement saying

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Speaker 2: that the NCBA is seeking to remove co college prop

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Speaker 2: bets from all betting markets. Quote, the NCAA is drawing

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Speaker 2: the line on sports betting to protect student athletes and

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Speaker 2: to protect the integrity of the game. Good because what

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Speaker 2: is happening now You're getting betters who get mad at

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Speaker 2: a player or a coach. And we've seen this in

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Speaker 2: the NBA. We've seen this or heard about this in

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Speaker 2: college basketball. You have the over with points or rebounds

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Speaker 2: and then somebody has a subpar game. Well, it's not

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Speaker 2: just winning the game and losing the game. Now, it's

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Speaker 2: everything about the game. And now you're going to get betters.

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Speaker 2: This happens in golf. You know these guys who are

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Speaker 2: betting are right there next to the golfer that they

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Speaker 2: could be betting for or against, and then you miss

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Speaker 2: a pott or you make a putt. I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is these are all the things that go along with gambling.

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Speaker 2: GMZ broke the story that the Big Three Tournament that's

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Speaker 2: brought to you by ice Cube offering Caitlin Clark five

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Speaker 2: million dollars to play. I don't know how realistic that is.

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Speaker 2: And then the fact that it leaked. I said that

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Speaker 2: he didn't want it to leak while she's playing for

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Speaker 2: a championship. But this is where you're going to get

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Speaker 2: most of your publicity. I mean, I okay, I don't want.

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Speaker 4: To just go ahead and say just say it, Dan.

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Speaker 2: It just feels like this might have been a story

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Speaker 2: that was planted to detonate. Now because it's the NCAA Tournament,

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Speaker 2: it's a day off for everybody, and you know that

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Speaker 2: we would be talking about Kaitlyn Clark. Yes, yes, mama,

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Speaker 2: would you pay.

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Speaker 3: Her just for an appearance fee, like to show up

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Speaker 3: to the Big Three? Need to give an appearance, like

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Speaker 3: she might play?

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Speaker 2: Well, well, what do you? I don't know. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the WNBA is her job and should be your job,

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Speaker 2: not being sort of a greeter at Big Three. But

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Speaker 2: I don't know how if they're desperate greeter and greet

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Speaker 2: come on in, come on in. Just have her warm up.

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Speaker 2: She doesn't have to play. Just get some thirty footers

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Speaker 2: form warm up. Yeah, last call for phone calls. What

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Hey?

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Speaker 12: Dan? Five days a melting two. Hey, I'm not gonna

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Speaker 12: be able to call in tomorrow, but just wanted to

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Speaker 12: wish you happy Openinnatti. I know it stuffs that. You know,

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Speaker 12: we're still pissed that we don't have the first opening game,

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Speaker 12: but we're going to enjoy it tomorrow with a bunch

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Speaker 12: of skylines.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you, Dylan, Skyliner, gold Star, take

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Speaker 2: your pick. I mentioned the over unders earlier. This according

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Speaker 2: to DraftKings, a couple of surprises. Vegas loves the Falcons

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Speaker 2: this year over under his ten and a half wins,

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Speaker 2: Cowboys at ten and a half, and I've a surprised

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Speaker 2: the Steelers are right now at eight and a half wins.

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Speaker 2: How many quarterbacks taken in the first round? The over

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Speaker 2: four and a half is leading. It feels like it's

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Speaker 2: going to be at least five, maybe six. Brian in Washington, Hi, Brian,

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Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Danny har are you good morning?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 5: I was wondering if you would consider.

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Speaker 6: A new addition to your gambling compost and Epe takes

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Speaker 6: the gamble.

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Speaker 2: Hmm, okay, Well, he's invited to come on if he'd

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Speaker 2: like to. I'm sure Shan Irving and Dylan bad Larry

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Speaker 2: would love to talk to. His record is yeah, he's

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Speaker 2: not a spect. He would fit in with our guys.

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Speaker 2: He's not a good gambler either. I like how Pete

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Speaker 2: Rose came out and said that, you know what, if

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Speaker 2: only he would have had an interpreter when he was

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Speaker 2: busted for gambling, he might might have gotten away with it.

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Speaker 2: This day should be cool to happen, I guess, but

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Speaker 2: this day in sports history, pauling very timely.

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Speaker 4: These guys we talked about today. Nineteen eighty one, US

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Speaker 4: President Ronald Reagan hosted a luncheon of all the active

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Speaker 4: members of the Baseball Hall of Fame were invited, got

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Speaker 4: the big house and butt them all over. Nineteen eighty nine,

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Speaker 4: Sports Illustrated exposed Pete rose gambling activities in this date

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Speaker 4: nineteen eighty nine. The magazine article alleged Rose bet on

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Speaker 4: baseball from the riverfront, dugout during with hand gestures to

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Speaker 4: an associate in the stands. Wow, that's it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see anything else in here. Jack Gibbons scored

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Speaker 2: forty one Kentucky beat Duke to win the title, and

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Speaker 2: Jack Gibbons joining Bill Walton as the only players to

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Speaker 2: score forty points in a title game. Why did I

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Speaker 2: think Gail Goodrich scored forty in a title game against Michigan?

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Speaker 2: Does that sound right?

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Speaker 7: Todd?

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Speaker 2: Could you do a quick little search there? Gail Goodrich

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Speaker 2: Michigan National title guy? I thought he had forty two?

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Speaker 2: Not so let's go round the room. What we learned

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Speaker 2: on the program, Marvin I'm going to start with you,

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Speaker 2: bo Nicks. That's what you learned?

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Speaker 7: Like what Fritzy?

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Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, you weren't ready? Oh okay you okay?

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Speaker 7: Nineteen sixty five NCAA title game for points. Okay, UCLA

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Speaker 7: beating favorite Michigan.

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Speaker 2: Right, so Gail Goodrich did have forty two? All right, Mark.

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Speaker 7: Attention to get John.

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Speaker 2: What did you learn?

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Speaker 8: I learned that Mike tann about his concerns about Michael

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Speaker 8: Pennock Junior and Jayden Daniel's durability heading into.

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