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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 1: This is Media Match, a roundtable of Cowboys insiders, trumping

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Speaker 1: wisdom and offering Szling takes on the current state of

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Speaker 1: your Dallas Cowboys. Now your host, Newie Scrugs.

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Speaker 3: All right, media match time right here on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: heading into Thursday's Thanksgiving Day game with the Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: and the New York Football Giants. Mega Man Tuesday. Right here,

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Speaker 3: we got Clarence Hill of All City Dallas, my favorite

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Speaker 3: man from Ada, THETA Chapter the University of Texas. Newie

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Speaker 3: Scruggs got me Chapter USC. Pinbro All right, Longhorn, you

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Speaker 3: got the Longhorn. Matt Brown who won you your last

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Speaker 3: national championship of Texas dismissed at North Carolina today.

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Speaker 4: You know, I mc brown provided a program in Texas,

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Speaker 4: so he'll always you know, have a special place there,

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Speaker 4: always be considered the legend there. And you know they

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Speaker 4: brought him back, you know, he came to Texas, North Carolina,

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Speaker 4: they went back home, so to speak, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: uh this shouldn't taint his legacy at North Carolina and

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Speaker 4: Texas you know, obviously it's you know, he's seventy three

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Speaker 4: years old. He's been through the Wars. You know, how

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Speaker 4: does Nick say? But is he older younger than Nick?

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Speaker 4: Because Nick stepped down last year. I think he may

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Speaker 4: be older than I believe. So yeah, and you know

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Speaker 4: he has a future, as you know, I see Nick's

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Speaker 4: on game day. But you know he held possibly played

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Speaker 3: He was good on TV before. He's done that before. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Mac did the TV thing before. I wanted to go

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Speaker 3: back to coaching. But just watching this year, I mean,

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Speaker 3: James Madison tore them apart at home. Yeah, you got

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Speaker 3: rolled up by a Boston college team. And this is

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Speaker 3: interesting because obviously when we talk about coaching football, Mac

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Speaker 3: Brown influential, influential guy. You know, just we talk about

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys, but you know he sent players to the

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Speaker 3: Cowboys just but yep, today gone. Greg Ellis one of

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Speaker 3: the Cowboy coaches. Greg played for him, And I remember

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Speaker 3: it at the time when the Cowboys selected Greg Eallis

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Speaker 3: over over Randy Moss, mac Brown stood on the table

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Speaker 3: and said, hey, look, Greg Ellis is a guy want

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Speaker 3: maybe sitting my kid.

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Speaker 2: No, no doubt.

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Speaker 4: Greg has proven to be that guy, salt the Earth guy,

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Speaker 4: great human being, great person.

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Speaker 2: Special person, all of that.

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Speaker 4: And when you're you know, the thing about it is

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Speaker 4: is from a recruiting standpoint, from a future of the

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Speaker 4: program standpoint, when you're seventy three and you don't really

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Speaker 4: have an air apparent in place, that's always gonna be

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Speaker 4: issue a recruiting It's always gonna be a question. It's

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Speaker 4: a year to your thing. First of all, we're all

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Speaker 4: year to year, We're all day to day, they say,

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Speaker 4: But certainly as a coach, you know, it's it's a

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Speaker 4: day to day thing, year to your thing, and those

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Speaker 4: You're not having a good season. You're trying to build

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Speaker 4: a program, you know. So uh, I know, he didn't

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Speaker 4: kind of in Texas, they made the decision for him

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Speaker 4: and in the best interest of the program. So kudos

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Speaker 4: de Mac for the career he had with certainly success

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Speaker 4: he had of Texas. It was a last national championship,

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Speaker 4: certainly with the help of the great Uh and Uh,

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Speaker 2: He and his wife Sally. Uh. Great people.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's dive into these Dallas Cowboys here a

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Speaker 3: little bit. We just finished listening to Mike McCarthy Jerry

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Speaker 3: as well. I'll read Jerry's quote when asked by the

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Speaker 3: guys that won to fight through the fan, is it

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Speaker 3: crazy to rule out an extension for head coach Mike McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: And he said, quote, I don't think it's crazy at all.

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Speaker 3: It's not crazy. Mike McCarthy is an outstanding coach. This

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Speaker 3: is a Super Bowl winning coach. Mike McCarthy has been there,

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Speaker 3: done that. He's he has great ideas. In no place

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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of football up translated Jerry translator.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, what is he supposed to say?

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Speaker 2: What can he say? It's the middle of the season.

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Speaker 2: Just got a big win.

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Speaker 4: He said numerous times, I'm not making a coaching change

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Speaker 4: during the season. The fact that during the five game

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Speaker 4: Said have the big win? What was he supposed to say?

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Speaker 4: You know to that question. He's not gonna disrespect Mike

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Speaker 4: But I always go back to the famous Jerry quote.

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Speaker 4: He's told me that many times. He said that many times,

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Speaker 4: probably doing off season just because I'll say that, don't

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Speaker 4: make it so. Just because I said it, don't make.

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Speaker 3: It Chris Bean producer, Chris Bean, producer, Chris Bean. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what did I say last.

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Speaker 3: But I say last year said a lot last show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't remember Chris is doing something just because

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Speaker 2: I said, don't make it so.

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Speaker 3: But but but but I bring that up because that's

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Speaker 3: that's what I was saying in the last of the

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Speaker 3: doesn't make it so. You're asking him this question fifty

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Speaker 3: one days after his last win. He's feeling good. Jerry's

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Speaker 3: the optimistic guy. This is what you say. You're saying

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Speaker 3: this to him in November. The question asked to him

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Speaker 4: And and the question asked before the season was different

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Speaker 4: and his body lamuage before the season suggested you were

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Speaker 4: thinking about making a change because you don't give him

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Speaker 4: a contract extension. Okay, you put all the coaches on

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Speaker 4: one year deals and you say I'm putting pressure on

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Speaker 2: That's indication. That's body language.

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Speaker 5: What if I said, you know, what if I the

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Speaker 5: case not giving you that I can make a coach chay, Well,

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Speaker 5: cause you didn't give him a new contract, and because

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Speaker 5: you put all the coaches on what you deal and

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Speaker 5: you said you were putting you were doing to put

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Speaker 5: pressure on the coaches, that's that your action said it.

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Speaker 3: And then I also follow it up by saying, Jerry

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Speaker 3: of the club. Now, he can walk down the hallway,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he could do all of that. So I mean, again,

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Speaker 4: I think Mike's a good coach. I think Mike's been

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Speaker 4: the success he's had here. You know, his first year

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Speaker 4: lot of different things. But you know, the Wednesday's had,

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Speaker 4: this team has never quit on him, not in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 4: not this year. You know, he he does a good

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Speaker 4: certainly coming into this season. You know, a season where

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Speaker 2: When you don't have a deal for next year, it

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Speaker 4: It says that if you don't reach a certain threashold

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Speaker 2: It's changed.

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Speaker 4: So that in itself says a lot, you know.

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Speaker 2: Big time.

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Speaker 4: And then he got coach calling, you got stopping then uh.

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Speaker 3: Carolina what.

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Speaker 4: We got and and and then you got you know

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Speaker 4: you know, so you know, so how do you there's a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of holes in this He was giving a team

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Speaker 4: Holes, and they tried to you know, they had a

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Speaker 4: lot of losses. They tried to patch things up through

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Speaker 4: the draft, which is generally not.

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Speaker 4: What you want to feel needs and redcy so you

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Speaker 2: So there are a lot of moving parts of this season.

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Speaker 4: That and then you added the injuries and a lot

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Speaker 4: of things that have prevented Mike from having a year.

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Speaker 4: You know, what I said at the beginning was the

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Speaker 4: what was at stake from having a season to half.

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Speaker 2: But he's done a good job of managing this team.

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Speaker 3: I go back in a stat that the Cowboys put

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Speaker 3: a win on Thursday, Mike McCarthy tics Bill Parcells for

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Speaker 3: to tie him. Mike as a Super Bowl winning coach,

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Speaker 3: like Jerry said. And I bring that up to say, guys,

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Speaker 3: But I bring that up to save this point. Mike

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Speaker 3: times people lose sight of that. This this has been

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Speaker 3: a challenging year. But the owner feels good today and

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Speaker 3: he comes out and it's like he's throwing hopium out there.

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Speaker 4: There's no doubt and listen and we can talk about

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Speaker 4: the next seven We've got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's you know, it was funny because Jaalen

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Speaker 4: Hurt said, you know, talked about momentum. You know, how

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Speaker 4: how flimsy momentum is. You know, you can lose it

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Speaker 4: or gain it an instant, you know. And they were

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Speaker 4: They win one game. Now they got the Giants come

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Speaker 4: at least among them they can flip hope, you know,

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Speaker 4: mean the Cowboys are not my mathematical deliminary Jared talked about,

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Speaker 4: you know, we're still in this thing. It ain't over yet,

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Speaker 4: It plays out, especially until you especially as long as

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Speaker 3: This is a a national game. Everybody gets this game.

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Speaker 4: Those guys are trying to win. They're trying to stand

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Speaker 3: draft somebody else, right, you're good here.

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Speaker 2: I'm fighting like here. And brock Hoffmin is a fighter.

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Speaker 4: He fights, He fights and practice he fights all the time,

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Speaker 4: fighting out there on at the game on Sunday. You know,

441
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Speaker 4: we all know that that Zach Martin might not be

442
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Speaker 4: here next year, you know, and TJ Basketball company and

443
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Speaker 4: fight and say who maybe can be the starting guard?

444
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Speaker 4: And they need somebody step and be the starting guards.

445
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Speaker 4: That's one less position they have to go after free agency.

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Speaker 4: One less position they have to gouse and draft. Jared

447
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Speaker 4: talked about we got a young lot of young guys play.

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Speaker 4: Everybody talking about playing for the future, for our futures

449
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Speaker 4: right here. We want to get these guys rep so

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Speaker 4: they can be part of our future and part of

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Speaker 4: taking that next step back to prominence, if that's where

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Speaker 4: they're trying to go with Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 3: For the fans, hopefully they understood the whole segment here

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Speaker 3: of just hey, they're professionals.

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Speaker 4: And fans understand. Is that what you're asking me? What

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Speaker 4: you say, hopefully fans I mean, because let's be honest,

457
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Speaker 4: there are a lot of fans who was this illusion

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Speaker 4: coming into the season about the lose they didn't move,

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Speaker 4: they didn't make, and they were frustrated about the lack

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Speaker 4: of playoff wins and successful last thirty years, and then

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Speaker 4: the season goes off the rails, and so then they

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Speaker 4: resigned themselves, well, at least we can get a high pick.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: So now they man, well they can't even they can't

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Speaker 4: even lose, right, they messing up the high pick.

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Speaker 2: They can't do nothing right.

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Speaker 4: So you're asking fans to understand when they've already they

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Speaker 4: resigned themselves that we're probably not gonna take that next

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Speaker 4: step coming in this season because we didn't do enough.

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Speaker 4: Then we started losing like nobody's business. And now so

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Speaker 4: now the hope is we're gonna get a high pick.

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Speaker 4: You know, either we're gonna draft the great player, We're

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Speaker 4: gonna trade down to get multiple players to really take

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Speaker 4: that next stepped towards the Super Bowl. And now you

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Speaker 4: can't even lose right.

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Speaker 3: Watching the Scooter recruiter social media video, but no so

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Speaker 3: so I also, I'll say this, yes we heard that.

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Speaker 3: We saw that on timeline to our social media. It

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Speaker 3: was on it was on the postgame show where Brian

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Speaker 3: brought us was about to pull his the last little

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Speaker 3: bits of his hair out uh with fan Sunday. I

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Speaker 3: said the last little bit. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I'm trying it down on Brian. I love Brian,

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Speaker 4: but we all love Brian. But but but what Brian was.

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Speaker 2: Looked like dude from back in the future, and he was.

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Speaker 3: Frustrated that wait a minute, they just won a game

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Speaker 3: and you're calling as you're mad about a draft pick,

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Speaker 3: and Brian coming from the scouting side of like, man,

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Speaker 3: people don't put in all this work during the week

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Speaker 3: so they can go loose. So they hope that hey,

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Speaker 3: we can say we were going to to go draft

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Speaker 3: seventh instead of eleventh in the draft.

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Speaker 2: So and it's.

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Speaker 4: Crazy to meuse Cowboy fans, Washington, this is your rival,

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Speaker 4: and I don't care what. There's a lot of rivals,

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Speaker 4: and you know, but Washington, this old back that's tried

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Speaker 4: and true.

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Speaker 2: That's that rival from the George.

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Speaker 3: Allen days November game against the Washington and they.

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Speaker 4: Their fans were riding high. They thought they made this

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Speaker 4: great turnaround. And they was after they be whoever they beat,

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Speaker 4: and they beat somebody a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: They were chanting after Chicago win.

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Speaker 4: They beat Chicago with the hell, Mary, we won't Dallas,

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Speaker 4: we won't They That what it's like, Oklahoma fans doing

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Speaker 4: horns down they playing Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Dallas is always in their minds. Okay, always in.

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Speaker 4: Their heads, and it was in their heads. Cowboy's always

509
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Speaker 4: been Washington the heads. And they're chatting and the Cowboys

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Speaker 4: go and beat them in the way they beat them

511
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Speaker 4: with the crazy game, and fans are mad.

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Speaker 2: They should be reveling. They shouldn't be excited. They should

513
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Speaker 2: be like God again, that's what the fans should be.

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Speaker 3: Now there are there were plenty of those other fans

515
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Speaker 3: out there too who were happy to see the win,

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Speaker 3: that were happy to see Washington go down. So unfortunately

517
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Speaker 3: they got drowned out. Because usually we pay attention to

518
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Speaker 3: the foolishness, you know, we do, we do. We give

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Speaker 3: the foolishness more credit than we should. But I would

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Speaker 3: say this as somebody who picked against the Cowboys to win.

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Speaker 3: It was fun to watch those guys make plays and

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Speaker 3: it was fun to watch Cavante turnin hit the spin

523
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Speaker 3: move go up there. It was cool to see Schoonmaker

524
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Speaker 3: who's been struggling, catch a touchdown, and to watch Butler

525
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Speaker 3: make a play, to see Deron Bland get back out there.

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Speaker 3: That was fun to see and good to see because

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Speaker 3: the other part of it, we know these we know them,

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Speaker 3: we're around them.

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Speaker 2: We see that.

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Speaker 3: You don't want to open you know, you man lose

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Speaker 3: for a draft pick. That's not my mindset and I

532
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Speaker 3: don't play. But just watching that team win was cool. Yeah,

533
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Speaker 3: after five weeks bro forty nine days between, and it

534
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Speaker 3: is crazy to make everybody.

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Speaker 4: I was talking about other fans taking over a Tandy stadium,

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Speaker 4: and I always say it's one hundred thousand seats. The

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Speaker 4: Cowboys can sell seventy thousand seats, right, which is bigger

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Speaker 4: than some folks. Whole State's bigger than the Texas team.

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Speaker 4: Every was taxat s tamement on the hold six six thousand, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: something like that. They can sell seventy thousand, eighty thousand

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Speaker 4: season tickets. It's still gonna be twenty thousand opposing fans

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Speaker 4: in there.

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Speaker 2: And when you're losing, and when the Cowboys win, they're

544
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Speaker 2: gonna be loud.

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Speaker 4: You're gonna hear them. And so that's not an indictment.

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Speaker 4: Everybody's like Dicey Journey. Let all these people, well, you

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Speaker 4: go to Washington. There were a lot of blue jerseys,

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Speaker 4: always a lot of blue jerseys. When that fourth quarter,

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Speaker 4: when the fay rete, when the Washington fans left, a

550
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Speaker 4: lot of blue jerseys.

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Speaker 2: Were loud and proud and having a good time. She'd

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Speaker 2: have seen it.

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Speaker 4: This was the longest I've seen the Cowboys come off

554
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Speaker 4: the field because they were celebrating with fans and Cop

555
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Speaker 4: five and because we were waiting in the hallway wait

556
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Speaker 4: for the players, and it was the longest processional off

557
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Speaker 4: the field because they were having a good time, because

558
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Speaker 4: there was so many Cowboy fans.

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Speaker 2: They're reveling in it.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you recall the time if they

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Speaker 3: allowed you guys down on the field back then before

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Speaker 3: they took the passes to restricted us with the pregame access.

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Speaker 3: But the time when John Wall was the star player

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Speaker 3: for the Wizards and he showed up. I was there

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Speaker 3: Emmitt Smith's jersey.

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Speaker 2: Remember I was there. I was on the field.

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Speaker 3: That's that's the kind of juice the Cowboys have up

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Speaker 3: there in the DMV area.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and jay Z was on the field his passa

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Speaker 4: because you couldn't get down there and getting next to

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Speaker 3: It taught to Noah noa.

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Speaker 2: And when I got the TV guys are down there, Well, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Just saying, that's why you get the restrictions.

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Speaker 2: Sound Yeah, we can't get down with TV guys are

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Speaker 2: always down there. Yeah no, Yeah, jay Z was there.

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Speaker 4: Daz Bryant was there in the sweet with jay Z too,

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Speaker 2: A lot of.

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Speaker 9: He had.

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Speaker 3: The injury report is deep for the Cowboys here. As

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Speaker 3: this last game, Zach Martin didn't play. Uh uh, Tyler

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Speaker 3: Smith didn't play, So they're starting to guards weren't there.

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Speaker 3: Deron Bland they're starting Derond Blair Drohn. Bland was back,

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Speaker 3: what do we know so far here?

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Speaker 4: Well, uh, Cooks could be a go this week. He

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Speaker 4: wasn't ready to go last with Bretton to cook. So

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Speaker 4: obviously Debron Bland came through the game. Okay, we went

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Speaker 4: through the walk through you know, yesterday and he should

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Speaker 4: be practicing to day. Diggs is expected to get do

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Speaker 4: something on the Princeville today. Uh, certainly the same. Tyler

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Speaker 4: goutden is he didn't play last week. He should be

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Speaker 4: back this week, you know, I don't you know, obviously

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Speaker 4: Jake Fergus is probably not a goal, you know, with

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Speaker 4: the concussion in a short week. Probably the same thing

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Speaker 4: for jack Mark. Arson Richards had a great game. It

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Speaker 4: was a talk of him possibly earning the start, but

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Speaker 4: he's now out. He has a high ankle spring. But

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Speaker 4: like I said, Tyler Guiden should be good. Tyler Smith

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Speaker 4: has a chance to play again this week. You know,

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Speaker 4: Ceedee Lamb the Warrior. He's going to continue to play

656
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: through whatever he's dealing with. So you know, it's gonna

657
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 4: be some questions, but you know, hopefully if you get

658
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: we may finally see Diggs and Bland on the field

659
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 4: together for the first time and something that you know

660
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 4: they've been looking for for all seasons.

661
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 3: Go back into awesome Richards who during the game they

662
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: benched their first round pick, Tyler got benched and Austin

663
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: Richards came in there.

664
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 4: It was part of rotation. They were rotating them. They

665
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 4: were rotating the tackles. Okay, that's that's the official word.

666
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: They were rotating because they were rotating. Thank you for

667
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 4: the clarification, so but guiding to improve his penalty he

668
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 4: played when he was playing, he did okay.

669
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 2: It was the penalty that.

670
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 4: Yes drive killers and Mike McCarthy talked about that yesterday

671
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 4: that he has to get rid of that their killer.

672
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: He has to get rid of the penalty.

673
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 3: And so stay with me on Richards, and you talked

674
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 3: about he was playing well in that game and it

675
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: could have got to start, which meant that the rotation

676
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: ended up proving that he won the rotation here not

677
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: playing this week out for the high ankle spring. But

678
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 3: going into twenty twenty five, you've got Richards who's shown

679
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 3: you okay, can he can help you at worst be

680
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 3: your swing tackle most definitely? But with Geyton and then

681
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 3: Terrence Steele who's not had a good year at all.

682
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 3: And one thing we know about this league is they'll

683
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 3: go back and look at your contract and ask is

684
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: it need to be adjusted or they need to move along?

685
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: What is his future in your opinion right now?

686
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 4: Well, that's the question I mean, because you know you

687
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 4: saw what happened to Michael Gallop and the money coming

688
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 4: in issue not living up to the money you know,

689
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 4: we can save some money. You know, there's thought processes

690
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 4: of you know, what does Awesoin Merchant look like? Is

691
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 4: he better left tackle? Can you move Gutting back to

692
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 4: the right tackle with this position in college? You know, uh,

693
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: he was a right tackle in college. You know, would

694
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 4: he'd be more comfortable over there? And could you know

695
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: that bow well for the future. You know, these are

696
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 4: all decisions for the off season, you know, and that's

697
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 4: one reason why you want to see these guys playing.

698
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 4: You you know, it's so disappointed to the Cowboys that

699
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 4: that Richards has a high gospraying it's gonna be out

700
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 4: for a couple of weeks, you know, get Michael Parser's

701
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 4: out four weeks with higk Spray, you know, and and

702
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: you know, because you don't you want to see that development.

703
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 4: You want to see him continue to go and get

704
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 4: out in the envelopal, so that that that's a huge setback.

705
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: And of course that's been the story of the season

706
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: with the Cowboys, all these injuries and guys they were

707
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 4: counting on them to play or see or develop.

708
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: You know, it's been setbacks.

709
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 3: Well, I asked Brian shott Hyer a couple of weeks

710
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: ago about Luke's schoon Maker and he said confidence was

711
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: an issue for Scooning got to have a lot of

712
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: confidence after catching a touchdown pass in this game and

713
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 3: then the last two weeks being able to play and

714
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 3: make contributions.

715
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 4: Now you need to go on the step up of

716
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 4: schooneye and and Brevern span Ford undrafted rooking for Minnesota.

717
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 4: He had a good showing and he can block and

718
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 4: do some of the things. Uh because before last week's

719
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 4: I think school he had played three snaps in the

720
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 4: previous two games. You know, they were down on him back,

721
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: you know, and they was forced to play in because

722
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 4: Jake Ferguson got hurt against Houston the first quarter, and

723
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 4: he you make the most of the opportunities you get

724
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 4: a chance to play, you got to show up, you know.

725
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 4: That's one thing that Josh Butler did. He had been

726
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: waiting and laboring and behind guys that we clearly see

727
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 4: now that he was better than you know at cornerback,

728
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 4: and when he got a chance to play, he was

729
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: ready to play. And so that's what Schoolmaker did and

730
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: certainly Brever Spanfo they've stepped up, which is, you know,

731
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 4: good for the room. Going forward because you know what

732
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: you haveving Jake Ferguson. Now you add those guys to

733
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 4: the mix and you feel good about that position going forward. Again,

734
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 4: Loudwell's tight end coach has done a great job with

735
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 4: those tight ends.

736
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: I started to think about twenty twenty five all the

737
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: time as the season is going on here and you're me,

738
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: I think you're finding a couple of pieces where you say, okay,

739
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 3: all right, you know, Awesome Richards, here's a guy that

740
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: we can look towards, especially since Matt will let's go

741
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: and Josh Baul never became players. Right that, Okay, you've

742
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 3: got something in Awestome Richards, TJ. Bass, brock Hoffman. They

743
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 3: win in the game and they played well, so you've

744
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 3: got that there. And then you talked about the young

745
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 3: the tight ends branding is because look right now, we've

746
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: been looking at Luke Schoonmaker, Majie Smith, the kids from

747
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 3: Michigan who went one and two in the draft. Said, man,

748
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: these guys aren't cutting it done. They're not getting it

749
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 3: done at all. So I just head back to back

750
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 3: good games. Had a solid game last week. He's part

751
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 3: of the defensive turnaround. They were pretty good against it wrong,

752
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 3: and that was what we're looking at here. And now

753
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 3: you're seeing these guys make contributions, and as you're going

754
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 3: into twenty five, that gives you some hope that you say, Okay, hey, look,

755
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 3: maybe maybe places we thought we needed needed to address,

756
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 3: maybe we don't have.

757
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: You sound like Jared Jones. You sound like Jared Joe.

758
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 4: That kind of what I'm saying is that's what Jerry

759
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 4: was saying on the when people were talking about tanking.

760
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,240
Speaker 2: Hey, we got the young guys. We're looking for a future.

761
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: You guys talking about tanking or get young guy. We

762
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: got a lot of young guys playing. They need to play,

763
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 4: they need to develop, and they need to win. They

764
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 4: need to get these reps. Okay, And as they're getting

765
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 4: these reps, they're trying to win, and so that only

766
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 4: boats well for the future. When you got these young

767
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 4: guys and you're trying to develop and trying to see

768
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 4: everybody kind of trying to you don't have to purposely tank,

769
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 4: you know, you don't have to purposely play young guy. Organically,

770
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: these things happen because you got guys that are injured,

771
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 4: and you have to put these guys there out there

772
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 4: and see, you know when people talk about tanking, they're

773
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: talking about what the Giants did when they just benched

774
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: their quarterback and then play the third stringer, you know,

775
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 4: or the Jets. The Cowboys have had enough injuries that

776
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 4: you know, to me, I call it a little bit

777
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: of organic tank because you got all these injuries and

778
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: so you know, when you're already losing, you got to

779
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 4: play young guys. You think, well, they're gonna try to win,

780
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 4: but we don't know if they're gonna win. Well, the

781
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 4: good news is they did win. These guys did take

782
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 4: a step forward. These guys are getting the benefit of

783
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: development because they're out there on the field, and that

784
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 4: bowls well for the future.

785
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 3: So let's kind of go back a little bit toward coaching.

786
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: Right now.

787
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 3: This is a midst of a bad season for the Cowboys,

788
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 3: people didn't expect. But then I look at the Giants,

789
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 3: and then I look at the Jets. What's going on there?

790
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 4: And got Jets who did spend money, who did go

791
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 4: and get a receiver and and just do some.

792
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 3: Things use draft capital, go get Davanta Adams. Yeah, that's

793
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: where I look in terms of for fan base, for

794
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: the fans who were just except Mike catches a lot

795
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: of heat. Guys, have you seen some other places here,

796
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 3: no doubt if you've seen what's going on in Gotham City,

797
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 3: that is that is bad. What's going on in god

798
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 3: And I don't know who's worse.

799
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 4: Got them city, Jacksonville's oh, oh, Las Vegas.

800
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: It's a lot of Oakland, Yes, yes, yes, I'm sorry.

801
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 4: A lot of bad situations, a lot of bad teams,

802
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: a lot of bad stuff going on out there. And again,

803
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 4: these guys not quit on Mike. You know, they have

804
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 4: not quit on Mike. They can need to play Mic.

805
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 4: They're trying to wear for Mike. And the good news is,

806
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 4: as you see, they're taking hold to the teaching, you know,

807
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 4: the improvement on defense, and the defense has improved. You know,

808
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 4: you look at that game, you say it was a

809
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,920
Speaker 4: wild game. It is Washington, but that what that defense

810
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 4: did for.

811
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: Three and a half.

812
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: Threw for three and a half.

813
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: Course, ma, you know, you give up that final drive

814
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 4: and you give up that inexplicable eighty six yard touchdown,

815
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 4: but the defense played well for three and a half quarters.

816
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 4: Becaust a quarterback that everybody said with the future of

817
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 4: the league and MVP candidate.

818
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 2: It's not always.

819
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 4: It just frustrates me so much because that gets so

820
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 4: much hate and people try to say, well Daniels is

821
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 4: better than that, and see this drive better that. Let

822
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,839
Speaker 4: them boys play, Let's see what they got, Let's see

823
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 4: what the league does. They coming back to the pack

824
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 4: to a certain extent, you know that can you tell

825
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 4: that that that that college offense?

826
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: That uh king spirits the coach bro You know people

827
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 3: people get taped and they start figuring you out here

828
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 3: are we are we good with bones fossil.

829
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 2: I mean special team? Yes, we're good with bones fossil.

830
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 2: I mean that that wasn't because.

831
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 4: The kicker milluse the kicker where it was up to

832
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: down Sunday you're gonna blame You're gonna blame the block

833
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 4: field goal you got to I mean but he's generally

834
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 4: they haven't had any blocks, but generally, but.

835
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: The miss field goal that was on one of the

836
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 2: miss field goal.

837
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: Yet still do still doing doing doing things.

838
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 4: Jane should have gone down, you know because you know

839
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 4: it's funny because one year last week I do with

840
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 4: they coach tapping the dude. That was a play we

841
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,280
Speaker 4: were coached to. You know this is what we're coached.

842
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 4: I know you were coached to fall down to you

843
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,799
Speaker 4: didn't do that once again, bone, yes, because because you

844
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: know what they want as bill partials, just say turping.

845
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: Some of his work.

846
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: Turping, some of his work turping is some of his

847
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,879
Speaker 4: work in turping is we haven't even talked about that.

848
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,399
Speaker 4: That's that's one of the plays, all time great plays

849
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 4: in cowboy's history. Yes, he's the one from all time

850
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 4: great plays in cowboy history. He you know, somebody was

851
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 4: said that his return averages is better than Devin history

852
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 4: in one of his best years.

853
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 2: You know, that's he's pro bowlers.

854
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: How do you how do you pay him after it?

855
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: I don't know how you pay him. I don't know what

856
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 4: you're paying. And then we let's is he up this year?

857
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 4: Have to is up this year?

858
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 3: He meant he sounded like he was up to she

859
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: wou wasn't even talking like but check.

860
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't know.

861
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 4: I don't worry about that. I just I'm happy for him.

862
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: I'm happy for the careers have the career's having, you know, but.

863
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: Yes, there are two pro bowlers are gonna be two

864
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 3: guys they brought back brought over from the us USFL,

865
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 3: the two.

866
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 4: Lot Pro Bowls. You know, Tylers Smith has a chance

867
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: to make it. If Michael gets on the road, he

868
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 4: may have a chance to make it. You know, we'll see,

869
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 4: you know, if he ends up with double dig the sacts,

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Speaker 4: you know, and everybody goes to the to this, you know,

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Speaker 4: skipping to go to the Super Bowl, you know, he

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Speaker 4: might get in there. And I think Jordan Lewis has

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Speaker 4: had a great season. No one wants to, you know,

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Speaker 4: really give him credit for the season he's had at cornerback.

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Speaker 4: He's been one of the most consistent, consistent players on defense.

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Speaker 3: By the way, Tank on to we have a date

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Speaker 3: when we think he could come back.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, we don't.

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Speaker 4: He I talked to him last week and you know,

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Speaker 4: we talked about that and he said, you know, he's

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Speaker 4: gonna take his time and make sure it's healthy because

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Speaker 4: he wants to play next year, you know, and and

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Speaker 4: so we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But hey, they get back into this thing. See Tank

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Speaker 2: back on the field.

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Speaker 3: Clint Hill, thank you very much. We're out of time.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 2: Then they're gonna get back. You know, she just cut

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Speaker 2: you out. They gonna win fourth straight.

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Speaker 4: They got four games because losing what they win fourth

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Speaker 4: straight and be eight and seven, four and seven, four straight,

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Speaker 4: eight and seven. Boy, do you understand the talk around here?

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Speaker 4: If they get to eight and seven, it would be talking.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Do you think do I think the owner would walk

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Speaker 4: in and mar, you're like a chest out catboy, and

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Speaker 4: and give the give the head coach a contract.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that, but I know he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be grinted. He's getting and grinted, and.

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Speaker 3: You'll have another great, great, great.

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Speaker 2: They gotta win it home. Yeah, to win at home.

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Speaker 3: It starts on Thursday, there you go. We'll do it tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: clans Hill, Thank you much, all right. Producer Chris being

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