Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Speaker 2: Arms Strong and Dak Katie and he Armstrong and Eddy.
Speaker 3: We're also still dealing with the environment that Joe Biden created,
Speaker 3: which was which was depleting those stockholes and not sending
Speaker 3: him to our own military but to Ukraine. Which is
Speaker 3: when every time we reach back and look at any
Speaker 3: sort of a challenge we have, it.
Speaker 4: Goes back to, well, send it to Ukraine.
Speaker 3: Ultimately, we think this should be these munitions are better
Speaker 3: spent in our own interests at this point, and this
Speaker 3: kind of funding bill is going to ensure that we're
Speaker 3: properly funded going forward.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's kind of interesting that suggestioning the Secretary of
Speaker 1: War that money and armaments given to Ukraine were not
Speaker 1: in our own interest, whereas this is I would disagree
Speaker 1: with that. I think it is in our interest to
Speaker 1: not let Russia take over a country for all kinds
Speaker 1: of reasons we've talked about before. But the main thing
Speaker 1: I want to talk about is that two hundred billion
Speaker 1: dollar asked that Pete hegse throughout yesterday. According to all
Speaker 1: reporting there's no way that's going to happen. You can't
Speaker 1: get a majority of the Republicans on board, let alone
Speaker 1: the Democrats voting for it. So it's just not on
Speaker 1: the table. So where does that leave the war. That's
Speaker 1: the way wars sometimes end is you can't get them funded.
Speaker 1: Once again, quite possibly being a point of Trump should
Speaker 1: have gone to Congress or made the case stronger to
Speaker 1: try to get more people on board before this came up.
Speaker 1: See how more buy in, whether from European countries or
Speaker 1: from more voters, or from more people in Congress for
Speaker 1: more money or whatever.
Speaker 2: It's difficult to predict how that's going to play out.
Speaker 2: It might just be a lesser sum that they get,
Speaker 2: but it is the checks and balances of our system working.
Speaker 2: I hope it comes out in a way that we
Speaker 2: can finish the job in Iran, whatever that might be. Again,
Speaker 2: there are different goals that may or may not be achievable.
Speaker 2: But the one thing we don't want to do is
Speaker 2: pull out prematurely and leave the regime like intact with
Speaker 2: the power to project force.
Speaker 1: Well, I assume they're never going to bring us up
Speaker 1: to a vote. If it's clear that there's not a
Speaker 1: chance it would pass, because that would be a bad.
Speaker 2: Look, right right. Well, so more concrete news. US warplanes
Speaker 2: and helicopters kick off the battle to reopen horror moves.
Speaker 2: The US and its allies have intensified the battle to
Speaker 2: reopen the straight sending low flying attack jets over the
Speaker 2: sea lanes to blast Iranian naval vessels, and apache helicopters
Speaker 2: to shoot down Iran's deadly drones. According to military officials,
Speaker 2: Stepop Operation part of a multi stage Pentagon plan to
Speaker 2: reduce the danger from armed boats, mines, and cruise missiles,
Speaker 2: which are more or less halted ship traffic through the
Speaker 2: waterway since early this month. If the danger can be reduced,
Speaker 2: the US could send warships through the strait and eventually
Speaker 2: escort vessels in and out of the Persian Gulf. It
Speaker 2: couldn't take a while.
Speaker 1: Okay, six, So we're in an uncomfortable position. We have
Speaker 1: breaking news, but it's celebrity related. Do we interrupt our
Speaker 1: Iran conversation? Katie's nodding her head, yes, yes, so this
Speaker 1: is big celebrity breaking.
Speaker 2: Okay, this is on you, Katie Green. I'll take it.
Speaker 2: You and the donkey are going to be shown out
Speaker 2: post haste if this is inappropriate.
Speaker 5: Well, Chuck Norris has died at the age of eighty six,
Speaker 5: Oh the great Chuck Norris. Yeah, the family says it
Speaker 5: is with heavy hearts. Our family shares the sudden passing
Speaker 5: of our beloved Chuck Norris yesterday morning. They're going to
Speaker 5: keep the circumstances private. He had been hospitalized recently, and
Speaker 5: they're truly grateful for all of the prayers that they
Speaker 5: sent his way.
Speaker 1: The Grim Reaper doesn't come for Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris
Speaker 1: comes for the Grim Reaper, but not this time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The great irony of his tough guy image, which
Speaker 2: he embraced and laughed at, is he was said to
Speaker 2: be a very gentle and loving man and family figure
Speaker 2: and the rest of it. In a hell of a
Speaker 2: patriot too. And Beard before Beard was cool, Tourney stuck
Speaker 2: with it. Yep, yep, Plussy, Armstrong and Getty listened to
Speaker 2: Chuck Norris. We certainly did when we interviewed him. I
Speaker 2: believe he was a great innervator in mixing spandex into
Speaker 2: jeans too, because he did things in jeans you can't
Speaker 2: do in jens unless they're struct way early, right, right,
Speaker 2: and I think we all thank mister Norris and others,
Speaker 2: some of his corporate partners for that innovation. So what
Speaker 2: is his trajet?
Speaker 1: Was he he like a martial arts that somehow could
Speaker 1: act a little and got a TV show?
Speaker 2: Is that what happened? I think that was it? Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was like a martial arts champion. Yeah he was.
Speaker 2: He was a legit cham Then how did he end
Speaker 2: up being Walker Texas Ranger. Well, he's a handsome devil
Speaker 2: and can act a little bit okay, and could kick
Speaker 2: his leg way uphie in the air. Yeah. Some TV
Speaker 2: exact or some writer thought, hey, what if we have
Speaker 2: like a white guy who's super good at karate and
Speaker 2: we'll put him in a low man drama on the
Speaker 2: TV back when everybody watched you know that were a TV.
Speaker 2: It was a reasonably a big hit.
Speaker 1: Of course, the problem is that the number of prominent
Speaker 1: conservative TV or movie stars has gone from like five
Speaker 1: to four with his death.
Speaker 2: Yes, at least a twenty percent drop. Ah. The interesting
Speaker 2: part about his trajectory, kind of like Bill Shatner, is
Speaker 2: he became a meme. Yeah, but an affectionate meme. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 1: Very similar that people just have kind of a warm
Speaker 1: feeling toward him for no particular reason. He just seems likable.
Speaker 2: And he and he and Shatner both embraced it and
Speaker 2: chuckled along with it.
Speaker 1: Why did nobody do like a buddy cop movie with
Speaker 1: elderly Chuck Norris and William Shatner'd been.
Speaker 2: Too late now, So you're right, Joe, it is too
Speaker 2: late now. God the rick in the gut.
Speaker 5: On March tenth, it was his eighty sixth birthday, and
Speaker 5: he posted a video that says, I don't age, I
Speaker 5: level up and he was doing martial arts in the video.
Speaker 1: Oh man, no, he so ray. Chuck Norris wasn't some hipster,
Speaker 1: trendy beard. He was a beard when it wasn't popular
Speaker 1: to have a.
Speaker 2: Beard nicely trimmed too. He cared enough to look sharp exactly.
Speaker 2: Now back to the probable trigger of World War three
Speaker 2: situation in the Persian Hill, which which we could have
Speaker 2: use a man like Chuck Norris in these times. Boy,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna stop. Oh golly, maybe we should just
Speaker 2: take a break. Probably should take a break and reset it.
Speaker 1: We do.
Speaker 2: What's interesting? Diary The online diary of the Son of
Speaker 2: the President of Iran has disclosed a lot of interesting
Speaker 2: things about the thinking behind the scenes during these chaotic
Speaker 2: times in Tehran.
Speaker 1: I want to hear that we had in our one.
Speaker 1: There is a flying, venomous spider that's making its way
Speaker 1: across the country. It was said to be the size
Speaker 1: of your hand. It's not quite the size of your hand,
Speaker 1: but it is quite big. It can grow that large.
Speaker 2: Oh I can. Okay, Well, that's a dang big spider.
Speaker 1: So we need to talk more about that, because the
Speaker 1: idea of flying spiders that are venimus is uh, well,
Speaker 1: that'll keep you awake tonight, among other things.
Speaker 2: So stay right here.
Speaker 6: The President of the United States, he's in touch with
Speaker 6: his buddy Putin. He's got to say to him, we
Speaker 6: consider this an act of war against our troops, that
Speaker 6: you are providing intelligence.
Speaker 7: An act of war, that Russia is an act war
Speaker 7: against the United States.
Speaker 6: That's true, Yeah, because they're providing intelligence to endanger our
Speaker 6: troops to back off.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting. That's Nancy Pelosi. I don't quite get
Speaker 1: this part of it. Russia is providing intelligence to Iran
Speaker 1: to help hit our guys, and I don't know what
Speaker 1: we're doing back channel, but we haven't said anything out
Speaker 1: loud about it. That's Nancy Pelosi suggesting we go to
Speaker 1: war with Russia. I guess our I don't know.
Speaker 2: But I've heard enough. She just said the President needs
Speaker 2: to tell him back off, cut it out. I agree
Speaker 2: with her. I think she's right for once in my life.
Speaker 1: Maybe we are behind the scenes. But yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: get why that's not an active war. How is it
Speaker 1: not an active war? It's pretty warlike. Yeah, his buddy
Speaker 1: Putin thing is probably unnecessary.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, here's a fascinating fun fact for you. One
Speaker 2: of the reasons that this is going to take it
Speaker 2: longer than it might have a while back is in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty eight, the United States Navy had two hundred
Speaker 2: and fourteen surface ships. Two hundred and fourteen. We're down
Speaker 2: to eighty one. Oh my god. The year twenty twenty
Speaker 2: six the peace dividend because because the Cold War ended
Speaker 2: and we don't need the ships, and we'll never have
Speaker 2: a need for a powerful military again. Set our brilliant leaderships,
Speaker 2: particularly on leaders particularly on the left. Yeah. Anyway, more
Speaker 2: on that another time. I wanted to get a couple
Speaker 2: of other interesting developments and fun facts on good piece.
Speaker 2: Good analysis that came across about Israel and the US's
Speaker 2: different goals, which is absolutely appropriate given the fact that
Speaker 2: Israel is a regional power with some fairly specific needs
Speaker 2: and the United States is a global superpower that also
Speaker 2: is more or less in charge of global energy supplies,
Speaker 2: in global commerce, working on Earth, and so yeah, our
Speaker 2: interests in THEIRS and some tactics are going to verge.
Speaker 2: But that's perfectly natural. It's not a disagreement per se.
Speaker 2: It's just different goals. I mean, for instance, you know,
Speaker 2: we could get into the specifics, but like Washington is
Speaker 2: much more focused on the strait of horror moos for
Speaker 2: obvious reasons, whereas Israel doesn't care as much. They don't
Speaker 2: really get anything through the strait of horror moves. They're
Speaker 2: pretty pretty energy independent that sort of thing. So again, friends,
Speaker 2: but not in lockstep. Then this was super interesting. The
Speaker 2: New York Times with a big feature about this son
Speaker 2: of the President of Iran, which, as we've learned through
Speaker 2: the years, is not a super powerful figure, not like ours.
Speaker 2: He's part of the leadership team. But in the sterious
Speaker 2: world of Iran's leadership, nobody's really sure who has what power.
Speaker 1: Also allows them to have elections and pretend that they
Speaker 1: do that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Right, right, So this guy is very handsome. He reminds
Speaker 2: me of a couple of times, whether it's Luigi Mangioni
Speaker 2: or there's some felon in Central Wifornia that happened. He
Speaker 2: and be handsome, loathsome individual. But the stupid females of
Speaker 2: the world, all you know, got all hot fella that
Speaker 2: would have been what's that hot felon? Right? Hot? The
Speaker 2: whole hot felon thing. It's just so stupid, I mean,
Speaker 2: as stupid as dudes are. Ladies, come on, at least
Speaker 2: some of you are pretty weak in the head. Anyway,
Speaker 2: this guy is very, very handsome, very handsome, and he's
Speaker 2: got this online diary he's been publishing since the war began.
Speaker 2: He's forty four years old, he's got a degree in
Speaker 2: physics as a college professor, and the diary offers a
Speaker 2: rare glimpse of how Aron's political figures are faring as
Speaker 2: the war rages and closes in on them, and perhaps
Speaker 2: an inadvertently mister Pozechan at times takes his readers into
Speaker 2: the arguments and inner deliberations of Iron's top leadership, which
Speaker 2: is really interesting. Here's one thing he wrote. I think
Speaker 2: some political figures are panicking, he wrote on the sixth
Speaker 2: day of the war, which is wid the people are
Speaker 2: stronger and more resilient than our pundits and political leaders.
Speaker 2: We have to keep reminding ourselves that defeat will only
Speaker 2: come when we feel defeated. Now you may think, oh,
Speaker 2: he's standing up for the people. He's a man of
Speaker 2: the people. Yeah, a stay tuned. Interestingly, he wrote of
Speaker 2: his father that he is his two siblings could not
Speaker 2: wait for the two remaining years at the presidency to
Speaker 2: end so we can all get back to our normal lives.
Speaker 2: So you know, he has that in common with the
Speaker 2: families of American politicians to a large extent. But this
Speaker 2: guy is a hardcore loyalist. He wrote in his diary
Speaker 2: that protecting the lives of officials has become the number
Speaker 2: one priority for the country. Stopping the targeted killings, he says,
Speaker 2: is now a matter of honor. Let's see, he writes
Speaker 2: about attending him. Who's left to care about that? Have
Speaker 2: we taken out the head of everything? Well? Those left
Speaker 2: I don't know. This guy knows them.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: He recounted attending a meeting with government officials in the
Speaker 2: first week of the war, which disagreements about strategy surfaced. Quote.
Speaker 2: The biggest serious disagreement we have is how long are
Speaker 2: we supposed to fight forever? Until Israel is destroyed and
Speaker 2: America retreats, until ren is in complete ruins and we surrender.
Speaker 2: We have to study the different scenarios. Then here's one
Speaker 2: of my favorite quotes quote unquote favorite. In his diaries,
Speaker 2: he says he keeps receiving messages about the war from friends, acquaintances,
Speaker 2: and also from strangers. Occasionally, he said, quote the messages
Speaker 2: call for us to surrender and return the power to
Speaker 2: the people, a notion that he dismissed as quote ignorant
Speaker 2: and delusional. He did say that he worried about the
Speaker 2: veteran's attacks on Arab countries could backfire. It's so sad
Speaker 2: that to defend ourselves we have to attack American bases
Speaker 2: in friendly countries. I don't know if they will understand
Speaker 2: our situation or not. They don't. Son.
Speaker 1: They also hate you secretly, Yeah, but they hate you.
Speaker 1: They want you to go away.
Speaker 2: Yeah. He fiercely defended his father for apologizing to the
Speaker 2: Arab neighbors on March seventh and saying they should stop.
Speaker 2: He was quickly dragged to the inner halls of the
Speaker 2: command and told he's going to shut up right now
Speaker 2: and apologize for apologizing, and he retracted all of that,
Speaker 2: but he was in favor of that for his papa
Speaker 2: to do. Interesting. It's funny. He's really hardcore on this.
Speaker 2: We should not have allowed the enemy to have another
Speaker 2: successful assassination. Our honor is at stake. We've got to
Speaker 2: protect our official I don't know how, dude, I think
Speaker 2: that ship has sailed. Yeah, no kidding, unless he had
Speaker 2: a Harry Potter invisibility cloak or something that it's, you know,
Speaker 2: just a question of time until your old man gets
Speaker 2: separated from his body, his head gets separated from his body.
Speaker 2: And his diary says, unless Ron can stop the targeted killings,
Speaker 2: we will lose the war. Correct, Yeah, well you're gonna
Speaker 2: lose the war, I think, one way or the other.
Speaker 2: But so, what day was it? Wednesday?
Speaker 1: When the oil field, the gas field got attacked on
Speaker 1: both sides of the border.
Speaker 2: There that was the you know, a turning point.
Speaker 1: According to Wall Street Journal, that was the drastic change
Speaker 1: in the war, all that sort of stuff. Stuff settled
Speaker 1: down quite a bit in the last twenty four hours, though,
Speaker 1: So I don't know if we did get to Israel
Speaker 1: and get them to believe that you can't be attacked
Speaker 1: in those oil fields anymore, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Right right, all right, that's enough of that. Something different
Speaker 2: on the way, including our apology for bad mouthing land.
Speaker 2: What it was it? Animal bridges, all the wildlife bridges? Whatever?
Speaker 2: Why can't you enjoy the humble pie you deserve on
Speaker 2: a topic that I don't care about. I don't just
Speaker 2: get back. You gave the very idea of the rough
Speaker 2: side of your tongue. Stare shocking. I was horrified at
Speaker 2: the time. This ranks below Chuck Norris and the important
Speaker 2: news of the day. Oh, how about what's happening in
Speaker 2: Cuba and likely to happen. We can get to that
Speaker 2: in a little bit. Oh and why Republican Senator Ron
Speaker 2: Johnson thinks we do need to end the filibuster? What's
Speaker 2: that we do need end the filibuster? Okay, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: really into that topic. So I think that will blow
Speaker 2: up our country.
Speaker 1: I think that'll be a disaster. To end the filibuster,
Speaker 1: but I want to hear that argument. The part of
Speaker 1: the argument is that the Democrats are going to do
Speaker 1: it as soon as they take charge, so why don't
Speaker 1: we do it first?
Speaker 2: I mean, that is classic race.
Speaker 1: To the bottom right there, right that everything's headed in
Speaker 1: the negative direction, so we should do the negative thing first.
Speaker 2: Man, it's hard to get out of that spiral. That
Speaker 2: is more or less his argument, and it's a att
Speaker 2: least slightly persuasive, and we'll get into the full extent
Speaker 2: of his arguments in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people are into that story
Speaker 1: or paying attention to it at all, but that's a
Speaker 1: that's a big one.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, look forward to that and you can text us anytime.
Speaker 1: Four one five two nine five KFTC four one five
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Speaker 7: ABC pulling its upcoming highly promoted season of the Bachelorette
Speaker 7: after this new video emerged obtained by TMZ showing the
Speaker 7: show star Taylor Frankie Paul in a domestic violence dispute
Speaker 7: with her former.
Speaker 2: Partner, Your daughter is great. Here in the video.
Speaker 7: From twenty twenty three, you can see the Secret Lives
Speaker 7: of Mormon Wives star throwing barstools at her then boyfriend
Speaker 7: Dakota Mortenson, all in front of her five year old daughter,
Speaker 7: her crying ABC and who lose parent company Disney says,
Speaker 7: we have made the decision to not move forward with
Speaker 7: the new season of the Bachelorette at this time.
Speaker 1: So they had to pull the Bachelorette because a video
Speaker 1: came out that the super hot chick was crazy. It's shocking,
Speaker 1: I think to many of us that a super hot
Speaker 1: chick who is about to be on her third different
Speaker 1: nationally televised reality show turns out to be a nut job.
Speaker 2: That is shocking stuff. Trying to decide if it's beneath contempt. No,
Speaker 2: I still have a little contempt for it, but it's
Speaker 2: just about beneath contempt.
Speaker 1: She had been on some sort of thing that I'd
Speaker 1: never heard of. Then she was on Secret Lives of
Speaker 1: Mormon Wives or something, and then she is going to
Speaker 1: be the Bachelorette, and the video comes out of her
Speaker 1: attacking her boyfriend with a chair in front of her
Speaker 1: little kid.
Speaker 2: Turns out she's a nut. I'll be damned, seriously, anybody
Speaker 2: who watches those shows if they write a letter explaining
Speaker 2: that they enjoy them ironically, I think, to make fun
Speaker 2: of the people, you will be allowed to vote. But
Speaker 2: if this is actually important to you how those shows
Speaker 2: come out, you will be denied the vote.
Speaker 1: So the happiness, the worldwide happy. This report came out yesterday.
Speaker 1: It comes out every year. Finland's always on top. We
Speaker 1: always mock the criteria. We're not gonna have the same
Speaker 1: conversation we have every other year about this because this
Speaker 1: is slightly different. There seems to be a big, really
Speaker 1: big drop among young people, specifically in countries where social
Speaker 1: media has caught hold over the years. Now, I think,
Speaker 1: I I don't know what you all think when you
Speaker 1: think social media. I think I need to change my mind.
Speaker 1: I always thought when you're talking about social media, you
Speaker 1: mean stuff like Facebook.
Speaker 2: Not that young people are on Facebook, but.
Speaker 1: Any platform where you're like comparing yourselves and interacting and
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. I wasn't thinking of just
Speaker 1: scrolling YouTube and scrolling Instagram or just scrolling Snapchat. And
Speaker 1: apparently that's what people mean when they're talking about social media.
Speaker 2: I don't know why we call that social media, but
Speaker 2: I guess we call that social media. So I have
Speaker 2: been wrong.
Speaker 1: I've not understood this conversation the whole time, apparently because
Speaker 1: I didn't know scrolling YouTube videos was being on social media.
Speaker 2: Right, understand the distinction you're making. I think that the
Speaker 2: kids are doing all of the above, but yeah, a
Speaker 2: huge part of it's just watching video after video after video. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, so if that's what we mean by social media,
Speaker 1: then yeah, now I understand it more than I did before.
Speaker 2: But I guess so well. And I know Instagram is
Speaker 2: huge too, especially among young women.
Speaker 1: Right, but just the scrolling it, it doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be the posting it, getting into conversations, comparing yourself to
Speaker 1: other Just scrolling it all day long makes you depressed
Speaker 1: and miserable, apparently, So that's interesting and not surprising to
Speaker 1: me at all.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think although you threw in comparing yourself,
Speaker 2: and I think and Katie feel free because you're closer
Speaker 2: to this world than I am. I just happen to
Speaker 2: come across a feature about bachelorette outings and how everybody
Speaker 2: posts their spectacular, amazing, expensive glamorous bachelorette thing on the
Speaker 2: gram or whatever, and women look at that and feel
Speaker 2: like they really need to live up to that, or
Speaker 2: they're not happy enough about being a bride or their
Speaker 2: friend being a bride, and so it is rampant comparison stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that has a lot to do with like a
Speaker 5: weak mentality though as well. I mean, I know a
Speaker 5: couple of people on there who if you looked at
Speaker 5: their Instagram profiles, you would think they are rich and happy,
Speaker 5: and I know for a fact that they are neither.
Speaker 5: So I mean it's just people that fall for that though.
Speaker 1: I think I'm barely on any of that stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: I've barely looked at in my life. And maybe I've
Speaker 1: made up this connection in my head because i want
Speaker 1: it to be true. But it sure looks to me
Speaker 1: like the more pictures you have of you and your
Speaker 1: wife or husband walking on a beach as the sunset,
Speaker 1: the more likely it is you're divorced already.
Speaker 2: Than the reverse.
Speaker 1: It just seems to me looking at those that I've
Speaker 1: seen a lot of those, well, you have got the
Speaker 1: fantastic You hired a photographer to take pictures of you
Speaker 1: all in coordinated out fits walking on the beach. Now
Speaker 1: you're divorced, then some family style then then yeah, then
Speaker 1: people who aren't on it not you know, it's not universal.
Speaker 2: Of course, but certainly not. There's no more than a
Speaker 2: fifty percent chance that you'll be on the evening news
Speaker 2: one of you having murdered the other, you know, within
Speaker 2: six months.
Speaker 5: I just think it takes a certain kind of person, though,
Speaker 5: to see those posts and have it really affect them. Well,
Speaker 5: an adolescent, yeah, yeah, but I mean there are women
Speaker 5: my age that watch these TV shows that you were
Speaker 5: just talking about that, you know, the rich and famous
Speaker 5: life and glamour and all that, and it's just I
Speaker 5: think it's a certain person.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 1: So well, if you're older, maybe you're already so you know,
Speaker 1: worn down to a nub by life, that you were
Speaker 1: too cynical to fall for that stuff in the first
Speaker 1: place when it all arrived in the world, you know,
Speaker 1: all this social media stuff.
Speaker 2: At least to describe it, I think one must be nubby.
Speaker 1: It was kind of myseptical of snake oil, worn down
Speaker 1: to a nub by life. So when social media first hit,
Speaker 1: I was already somewhat skeptical of your perfect pictures and
Speaker 1: all that sort of stuff. But if you're young and
Speaker 1: you're new to it, you don't know any better. And
Speaker 1: heavy social media use appears to be contributing to the
Speaker 1: drop in well being among young people in English speaking
Speaker 1: countries and Western Europe, especially among which gender is it
Speaker 1: affecting the most girls? Of course, according to the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty sixth edition of the World Happiness Report, which came
Speaker 1: out yesterday, Oxford puts it together along with Gallup and
Speaker 1: a bunch of other think tank people, and we talk
Speaker 1: about it every single year and again, Finland's always at
Speaker 1: the top.
Speaker 2: Good for you, Finland.
Speaker 1: The picture, however, shows that the younger crowd seems to
Speaker 1: be really affected by hours, long hours of scrolling through
Speaker 1: what they're calling social media, and that's a contributing factor
Speaker 1: to the drop in happiness the United States, Canada, Australian
Speaker 1: New Zealand, those in the youngest generation reported an initial
Speaker 1: increase in life evaluations before smartphones, so it is go
Speaker 1: in the right direction. So smartphones showed up in the
Speaker 1: world in like two thousand and seven, two thousand and
Speaker 1: eight and became widespread, followed by a sharp.
Speaker 2: Decline since then. Yeah, well, right, So hey, I think
Speaker 2: it's worth pointing in and it hits you the numbers
Speaker 2: and then you can yeah, and a ranking of happiness
Speaker 2: changes for under twenty fives.
Speaker 1: The United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand now rank
Speaker 1: between one hundred and twenty second and one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty third out of only one hundred and thirty six countries.
Speaker 1: So we're down near DFL for our young people's happiness.
Speaker 2: Wow. So like the Haitians and the Somalians are saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's all right here it gets a little hot in
Speaker 2: the summer. But and our our affluent youngsters are miserable. Yes,
Speaker 2: So I think it's helpful to actually talk about the
Speaker 2: Finland thing a little bit because I think it relates
Speaker 2: directly to this. Finlanders aren't happier or more cheerful. Their content,
Speaker 2: their whole culture is no, you don't have much, but
Speaker 2: you can have a happy life with that. And to
Speaker 2: think that you need lots of stuff and status to
Speaker 2: be happy as stupid. And you don't fit into Finish society.
Speaker 2: We're a tough, down to earth people. That's why they're
Speaker 2: quote unquote the happiest on earth is because they don't
Speaker 2: expect much at all. And if you spend your day
Speaker 2: scrolling through the fakery of the most glamorous, exciting, living,
Speaker 2: beautiful people on earth and all the things they have
Speaker 2: and the wonderful things they do, that's like anti Finland.
Speaker 1: Most Western industrial countries, where it'd be the most likely
Speaker 1: that you have smartphones in your you know, scroll in
Speaker 1: the gram are now less happy than they were in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and five to twenty ten period, with
Speaker 1: fifteen having had significant drops, significant drops in happiness since
Speaker 1: the smartphone showed up on the scene. Is anyone surprised
Speaker 1: by that? No, Well, that fits in with one question
Speaker 1: that they ask. Most people agree, most people, the majority
Speaker 1: of people agree they'd be better off if these platforms
Speaker 1: didn't exist. Isn't that something that we know we'd be
Speaker 1: better off if they didn't exist, yet can't stop ourselves
Speaker 1: from participating in making ourselves miserable.
Speaker 2: Apparently a lot of people. Yeah, I see plenty of
Speaker 2: as they say, green shoots of a away from technology,
Speaker 2: away from doom scrolling movements among the young. It's really
Speaker 2: difficult to determine. Is that like a teeny tiny percentage
Speaker 2: or is that going to be something that really grows.
Speaker 2: I certainly hope it's the latter. You're not ever going
Speaker 2: to find happiness scrolling. You will find it with human beings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you don't get the immediate little dopamine hits from.
Speaker 2: The old wife, and people get addicted to that.
Speaker 1: I guess the most problematic platforms are those with algorithm
Speaker 1: driven by algorithms, curated content, influencer culture, and primarily visual
Speaker 1: material because they encourage social comparisons.
Speaker 2: Platforms designed to facilitate.
Speaker 1: Direct communications show a more positive association with happiness. So
Speaker 1: what I was calling social media in my head, I've
Speaker 1: been listening to all these discussions for this past several
Speaker 1: years having a completely different idea of what we were
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: So that is a mistake. But because I.
Speaker 1: Thought all of the I thought platforms reinteracted each other
Speaker 1: a lot was what we meant by social media.
Speaker 2: But apparently, but those.
Speaker 1: Where you interact with each other people that there is
Speaker 1: a more positive association with happiness among the platforms where
Speaker 1: you actually interact as opposed to the ones where it's.
Speaker 2: Mostly just scrolling. Yeah, it's more positive, but I'll bet
Speaker 2: it isn't net positive, particularly among young people.
Speaker 1: Heavy social media use more than five hours per day
Speaker 1: is associated with lower well being. On average, heavy users
Speaker 1: are significantly more likely to report higher stress and depressive
Speaker 1: symptoms and believe they are worse off than their parents.
Speaker 2: Well that might be.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been an example of something where this
Speaker 1: isn't like there's a ton of problems where we guess.
Speaker 1: We try to guess the cause of them, and it's
Speaker 1: like could be ten different things and maybe all all
Speaker 1: of them combined or whatever. We just don't know what's
Speaker 1: driving this problem. And this one, though everybody knows exactly
Speaker 1: what it is, looking at social media makes you less happy.
Speaker 1: If you stopped, you'd be happier. We know exactly what
Speaker 1: it is, but still can't get past it for some reason.
Speaker 1: I can tell you it's a huge That's my question.
Speaker 1: Are we getting past it? Some people absolutely are getting
Speaker 1: past it. I wonder how many and how quickly that
Speaker 1: trend will continue.
Speaker 5: But I well, I can just tell you it's a
Speaker 5: huge conversation amongst uh soon to be or new parents
Speaker 5: right now bringing babies into the world, going, how are
Speaker 5: we going to make sure that this is not what
Speaker 5: their living situation looks like?
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, that's good. Instinctively, you can just see
Speaker 2: the danger.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's possible that those of us who raised kids
Speaker 4: with the first like the first round of how bad
Speaker 4: is this?
Speaker 1: Now that we all know it's really, really, really bad,
Speaker 1: the next crowd of raising kids like you and all
Speaker 1: your friends, Katie are gonna know no way.
Speaker 2: That may me miserable. I ain't gonna let my kid
Speaker 2: do this. Yeah, for you know, newer listeners, Jack and
Speaker 2: I are virtually the same age, but my kids have
Speaker 2: been grown for quite some time. We had them young.
Speaker 2: Jack had them later in life, So I like was
Speaker 2: raising kids just before the what is this? What do
Speaker 2: we do with it? And what does it mean? Era
Speaker 2: of smartphones and social media and stuff like that, And yeah,
Speaker 2: the one you were in the sweet spot of what
Speaker 2: the hell is this? What do we do? I think
Speaker 2: you're right. The next you know, cohort of parents is
Speaker 2: going to be aware of. Okay, the one thing that
Speaker 2: ain't gonna happen in this house is you know whatever
Speaker 2: social media danger.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it seems to be agreed upon across all
Speaker 5: the boards. So instead of you know, interesting, well, and
Speaker 5: because you've talked about like, well, if our kid doesn't
Speaker 5: have the phone, and the YouTube or whatever. Then they're
Speaker 5: left out. They don't know what everybody else is talking about.
Speaker 5: But hopefully this next round, it seems like we're all
Speaker 5: kind of like, uh no, you're not getting that, so
Speaker 5: maybe it won't be what everybody is talking about.
Speaker 2: Air quotes used, you know. I'll bet there is an
Speaker 2: answer to this question. Is there a really great resource
Speaker 2: for parents who want to talk to their their little
Speaker 2: boys in particular, but girls too, about porn before you
Speaker 2: think it's necessary, because that's when it is necessary. I'll
Speaker 2: bet there are some really good resources for that. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm hoping it's true, Katie, that.
Speaker 1: Your crowd that has lived through being miserable from staring
Speaker 1: at instant the start because it didn't exist when my
Speaker 1: kids were born, are going to be police it much
Speaker 1: heavier than it was brand new to a lot of us.
Speaker 5: Bring back the Nokia bricks Man. You can play Snake,
Speaker 5: you can text, and you can make a phone call.
Speaker 2: That's it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go, that needs to be the first phone
Speaker 1: every kid gets. Absolutely any thoughts on that our text
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Speaker 8: All right. New York's Governor Kathy Hochele has pissed off.
Speaker 2: Had a recent media appearance.
Speaker 8: She begged ex wealthy New Yorkers who fled the state
Speaker 8: to come back to support her social programs.
Speaker 9: What I want to make sure we are smart about
Speaker 9: is having a system in place where it's not just
Speaker 9: taxing for the sake of taxing, and being conscious of
Speaker 9: the facts that I need people who are high net
Speaker 9: worth to support the generous social programs that we want
Speaker 9: to have in our state.
Speaker 8: The translation, rich dudes, I want you back because I
Speaker 8: miss your money.
Speaker 2: Yeah, clearly. Oh there's there's more from Greg Guttfield.
Speaker 9: Now there are some patriotic millionaires who stepped up.
Speaker 2: Shut up, Okay, cut me the checks.
Speaker 9: I mean, just if you want to be supportive, but
Speaker 9: maybe the first step should you go down to Palm
Speaker 9: Beach and see what you can bring back home.
Speaker 2: That makes me because I can't even loosten do or talk.
Speaker 2: That makes me angry. That was good, thoseill was good.
Speaker 1: Don't tell me I'm not patriotic because I don't want
Speaker 1: to support your stupid social.
Speaker 2: Program that doesn't do anything.
Speaker 1: If you and the horse you rode in on, good Lord,
Speaker 1: where do you get off saying that, oh, you're not
Speaker 1: if you're a patriot, come support my giant social programs.
Speaker 2: Screw you, all right, Michael, play six again, Because she
Speaker 2: was just getting to the point where she was trying
Speaker 2: to recruit what zillionaires to go down to Palm Beach
Speaker 2: and browbeat people that have moved back to New York
Speaker 2: to pay high taxes. What now there are.
Speaker 9: Some patriotic millionaires who stepped up.
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, sickening, cut me the checks.
Speaker 9: I mean, just if you want to be supportive, but
Speaker 9: maybe the first step should be go down to Palm
Speaker 9: Beach and see what you can bring back home because
Speaker 9: our tax base has been eroded, Like I have to
Speaker 9: look at the fact that we are in competition with
Speaker 9: other states who have less of a tax burden on
Speaker 9: their corporations and their individuals.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. I was going to be more charitable
Speaker 2: and say until that clip that she's a politician who
Speaker 2: understands the mobility of wealth, unlike her populous DIPS supporters
Speaker 2: who just about to punish billionaires. Than billionaires they shouldn't
Speaker 2: even exist. Let's text them out of existence. She's like, dude,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna work. Is there is there another one? Okay?
Speaker 2: Go ahead.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yet the denser shocked when taxpayers leave, when it
Speaker 8: was the same Kathy Hokle back in twenty twenty two
Speaker 8: who told them just to do that.
Speaker 9: Leave, just jump on a bus and head down to
Speaker 9: Florida where you've long.
Speaker 2: Okay, get out of town.
Speaker 9: Get out of town because you don't you don't represent
Speaker 9: our values.
Speaker 2: You are not New.
Speaker 1: Yorkers, So you don't like it, well, then leave?
Speaker 8: Well how did that work for you? They did leave,
Speaker 8: along with your tax base. The only ones who didn't
Speaker 8: leave are those who are still meaning us. Believe me,
Speaker 8: if Fox wasn't here, I wouldn't be here either.
Speaker 1: It's so maddening that the people on the left, they
Speaker 1: think all their government programs are just wonderful and doing
Speaker 1: good things.
Speaker 2: Apparently the politicians know they're not. They know it's a scam,
Speaker 2: but boy, the voters still believe it inspite of all
Speaker 2: the evidence of their eyes and ears. God, that makes
Speaker 2: me angry.
Speaker 1: All right, We got more in our three Stay tuned,
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty