1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Ridiculous Histories, a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to the show, 2 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much for 3 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: tuning in. Let's hear it for ours still alive, super 4 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: producer mister Max Williams, Google cha, I'm still alive. 5 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 2: And guess what for the second day in a row, 6 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:48,080 Speaker 2: I am drinking actual. 7 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 3: We are all the walrus and also guys. 8 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: And that is none other than mister Noel Brown. They 9 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: called me Ben in this part of the world. Noel, 10 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: did you know that Paul McCartney died in nineteen sixty six? 11 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 3: I heard tell it's been withered about for low these 12 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 3: many years. I don't know, man. This is very much 13 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: a good crossover point between the other show. We do 14 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,319 Speaker 3: stuff that I want you to know in Ridiculous History 15 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: and that this episode is all about conspiracies and much 16 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: being made about the rumors of the death of Paul 17 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: McCartney aka the Paul is Dead saga and quite a saga. 18 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: It is quick question. Did he die in an octopus's garden? 19 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: No? 20 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 3: Oh no, but he may have been in the shade. 21 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 3: He entirely possible. 22 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: Was he was an active member of a Yellow Submarine 23 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: Crew that much we have perfirmed. Yes, yes, yes, So. Look, 24 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: Paul McCartney is kind of famous. He's a real up 25 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: and coming musician. Yeah, you may have heard of him 26 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: as being one fourth of one of the best pun 27 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: based musical groups in modern history, The Beatles. 28 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: Then I'm glad you brought that up. I think a 29 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 3: lot of people completely space on that, or it just 30 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 3: never occurs to them. The name the Beatles is in 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 3: fact a pun. It is the E A T L 32 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 3: E s. And they were part of a scene called 33 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: Mercy Beat and the beat Nick and all of that 34 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,919 Speaker 3: kind of stuff. So it's a it's a very clever, 35 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 3: little little n joke there. I think a lot of 36 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 3: people miss, hey, I'm the I definitely did until now. 37 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: No worries, Max uh if it, if it may assuash 38 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: some people's concerns. I am the dumbest person I have 39 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: ever met. I just recently figured out that mattress firm 40 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: is a play on words. 41 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 3: We've talked about this, and I think, you know, yeah, 42 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 3: you've been living with that realization for a minute. But 43 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,919 Speaker 3: the moment you find out, it's like it's like the 44 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,799 Speaker 3: Galaxy brain emoji. But yeah, no, it's to your point, Ben, 45 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 3: if you wanted to be coy about it, did you 46 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: know that Paul McCarty actually died in nineteen sixty six? 47 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 3: Actually seriously, yeah, crib yeah to crib. From our dear 48 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 3: friend and Beatles maniac way beyond enthusiast, Jordan Runtagg, who's 49 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 3: our research associate on this pre determined two parter, preemptive 50 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: two parter. The guy who's been out there touring and 51 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: releasing albums as Paul McCartney for the last you know, 52 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 3: sixty ish years or so, is apparently, according to some anyhow, 53 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 3: some sort of doppelganger slash impostor slash body double body 54 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 3: double exactly. 55 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: And Matt, if we could get a little bit of 56 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: dramatic cinematic music, little stuff they'll want you to do, 57 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Fellow ridiculous historians. It is a little known fact that 58 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: the surviving Beatles partnered with the British government on a 59 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: top secret scheme to replace their fallen basis in the 60 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: aftermath of a fatal car crash. 61 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: It's right and just to be clever about it. Because 62 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 3: those Beetles are known for their wit. They decided it'd 63 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 3: be a lot of fun if they just sprinkled in 64 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: little drips and drabs pointing to the truth of the 65 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 3: conspiracy for their eagle eyed or eared fans to decode. 66 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:36,280 Speaker 1: Because what better way to really pull off a body 67 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: double replacement? What better way to keep the secret secret 68 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,920 Speaker 1: than to do some back masks they get a goof. 69 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 4: What if I made it a little goof and fun 70 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 4: fun game funnel madlib for the for the fans, that'll 71 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 4: be fun for them. 72 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: You don't knowl This reminds me of that time you 73 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 1: Max Casey Pegram and I got together and did the 74 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: whole JFK thing, and we were like, let's put some 75 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: little little gags in there. 76 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 3: God, Ben, I don't remember this. You'll have to remind me. 77 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:15,599 Speaker 3: This is what we've been doing this show for a 78 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: long time. I don't remember the JFK gags. 79 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: Oh JFK the president that we conspired to have assassinated. 80 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: Oh that was us, that's right, Sorry, whoops. It's all 81 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 3: coming out soon though, y'all. Trump released all that paperwork, 82 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: and soon we will be taken to task for our 83 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 3: our treason activities. 84 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're wondering, we just have an amazing skin routine. 85 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: It's also true. 86 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 1: That's that is also true. 87 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 2: I didn't well well, I mean, I mean, yeah, that's 88 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: how we did this in the sixties and we're still 89 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: young and vibrant here in twenty twenty five. 90 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: Yes, of course, Sarahvey. It's a hell of a drug 91 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: vibrant at least. That's so much wrong here. 92 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: So look, uh, we're pointing out already some of the 93 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: fun and fascinating rabbit holes of this particular possible culture 94 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: beetle holes of this particular pop culture conspiracy. Now our 95 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: new researcher, good friend of ours, good friend of the show, Jordan, 96 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: as he said, Noel, he's super into this. We want 97 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: to start at the beginning, so we tease the idea 98 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: that the actual Paul McCartney, let's call him Paul Prime. 99 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: Sure I like that, Yeah, all right, So Paul Prime, 100 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: take us there, Noel, it's just before midnight, November eighth, 101 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six. 102 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: That's right, a little place called Abbey Road, really famous 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: crosswalk you might have seen, and some imagery with some 104 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 3: folks crossing the street there. Beatles are hard at work 105 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 3: at this studio when Paul McCartney gets into quite the 106 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: row as the Brits call it with fellow Beatle Ringo star. 107 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 3: He's the drumming, the drummy one. 108 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 1: He's not even the best drummer in the Beatles. 109 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 3: They do say that, and not to on Ringo too 110 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 3: too much, but there is a lot of chatter and 111 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 3: scuttle but from various session musicians who have played in 112 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: and around the Beatles over the years who basically say 113 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 3: that he didn't play any of the drums. And I'm 114 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: just saying, like, there are definitely Ringo defenders, and we've 115 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: certainly seen him play live at like the let it 116 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: Be Live on the Roof thing, and various clips from 117 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 3: the Assault shows is a fine drummer. And sure you know, 118 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: he definitely has a style, and I'm I'm I'm a 119 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: fan of that style. But it is it's another conspiracy entirely. 120 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 3: This idea of the Ringo didn't. 121 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Really play the Beatles might have been an optic higher. 122 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: But he was a good looking lad. It's not real. 123 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 3: He was the funny one. They were all pretty funny. 124 00:07:56,960 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: But in the movies he's the real goofy one. 125 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: I would agree that he is a very specific looking person. 126 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: That's very true, But I also agree I also agree, 127 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: knowld that Paul McCartney and John Lennon were often seen 128 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: as the sort of dynamic duo of the Beatles when 129 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: it came to songwriting. George Harrison got short changed often. 130 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 3: And Lennon McCartney is the is the famed you know, 131 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: writing credit on all that Beatles stuff, right exactly. 132 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: And they and those two guys didn't always get along, 133 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: but when they did, they made some amazing timeless music. 134 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: As you were saying, Paul McCartney, according to the theory, 135 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 1: has a real oh what do you say, raw, I 136 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: love it, I love achtuff yeah, yeah, yeah, an aggressive 137 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: hullaballoo with a ringo star. And the funny thing is, 138 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: no one knows the specifics of whatever this discord may 139 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: have been. The story goes that McCartney is very upset, 140 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: he's very in his feelings, as we would say in 141 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: modern parlance, and he just ghosts out of the recording session. 142 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: He slamming doors, he speeds off. It is super sick, 143 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: asked in Martin. Because they're already rich by this point, 144 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 1: and it's a rainy night in England, not a rainy 145 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: night in Georgia, a night in England, basically, yea, yeah, 146 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: it's a regular night in England, which is a rainy 147 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: night in Georgia. And at some point during that ride 148 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: he loses control of his car. He swerves off the road. 149 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: But he's been driving so far and so fast that 150 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: now he's in rural England, and there are a ton 151 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,480 Speaker 1: of things to add to this. The story goes that 152 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: whatever whatever transpires, this Aston Martin hits a stone fence 153 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: like a wall at top speed, and the accident is 154 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,119 Speaker 1: so bad that Paul McCartney, legendary member of the Baitles, 155 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: loses his head, is decapitated, is pronounced dead on Wednesday morning, 156 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: on November ninth, nineteen sixty six. 157 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's a little Tongian cheek action going 158 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 3: on here from our buddy Jordan. He wrote a lot 159 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 3: of this as this or the Queen's honest truth, and 160 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 3: we're gonna approach it, you know, as if as the 161 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 3: thought experiment, as if this were indeed possible, let's play, 162 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 3: I think we should. So let's take all this as read. 163 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:48,599 Speaker 3: Paul McCartney has been flung from his Aston Martin and 164 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 3: you know, severely mangled, decapitated even and he is discovered 165 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 3: by the police, who pretty quickly realize who they've got 166 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 3: on their hands, and they quickly phone up the British 167 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: Secrets m I five, who allegedly hold an emergency meeting 168 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,719 Speaker 3: with the surviving Beatles and their management team, all of 169 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: these folks together in some sort of skiff. One would 170 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 3: imagine a guy that we must protect the public, right 171 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: because no one can know. 172 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: M I five is like Law and Order SVU. They 173 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: have nothing going on except this one case. 174 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: It'll cause pandemonium and whatever. The opposite of Beatlemania is 175 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: beetle phobia. Well, it would just be a real real 176 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 3: show and then people are gonna tear themselves apart each other. 177 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 3: We have to protect the peace, Yes, we have to 178 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 3: protect the beats. 179 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 4: Uh. 180 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: They decide that. 181 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: Well, the idea is they conspire and they say, okay, 182 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: what is the most straightforward way to preserve the Beatles 183 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: and to preserve the public and national security and peace 184 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: of mind for music fans around the world. And they say, obviously, 185 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: the least complicated thing is to totally lie about the 186 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,319 Speaker 1: fact that Paul McCartney is dead and to replace him 187 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,959 Speaker 1: with a body double and swear multiple people to secrecy 188 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: for the entirety of their lives. 189 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 3: Who we already have on hand. By the way, who 190 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: we already have on hand. Now that's not too much 191 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 3: of a stretch. The Beatles were certainly famous enough and 192 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 3: recognizable enough that it's possible they had body doubles already. 193 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: But that's the thing that we've talked about on stuff. 194 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 3: They don't want you to know where there are cases. 195 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: I think one that comes to mind specifically is with 196 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 3: some Middle Eastern royal families, and if I'm not mistaken, 197 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: like the Husseins, they had a stable of body doubles. 198 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 3: And if I'm not mistaken, there's a film called like 199 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: the Devil's something or other, The Devil uh yeah Double 200 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 3: or something like that, and it's about Cussey. Hussein was 201 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 3: I believe one of the most brutal of the two brothers, 202 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 3: Ude and Cusse and his body double and doppelganger, and 203 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: it's just someone that would stand in uh that would 204 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 3: kind of you know, throw people off the scent. It's 205 00:13:16,920 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 3: the Devil's Double, thank you. That's right. So we know 206 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: this is a thing that is done. Maybe it makes 207 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,839 Speaker 3: a little more sense in politics, but I mean man 208 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: Ford John Lennon was assassinated. The Beatles were influential on 209 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: a political level. 210 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: Paul was on a lot of lists, you know, absolutely, 211 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: And speaking of being on a lot of lists, I'll 212 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: say it. I know people don't love to hear it. 213 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Catcher the Right is a good book. Not to it's 214 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: a good book. It's ruined by the fans, just like 215 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: Rick and Morty, but it's it's a good book. 216 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: Uh. 217 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: And it doesn't it doesn't turn you into an assassin, 218 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 1: which probably do a series on that as well. Anyway, 219 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: it's just, dude, it is laughable to me. The idea 220 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 1: that m I five, an organization that is multitasking of 221 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: nothing else, would cook up this mousetrap level like Rube 222 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 1: Goldberg conspiracy. Instead of going public, will just replace the 223 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: physical person with another person and will trust everyone to 224 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: not reveal the secret. So we have to ask we bono, 225 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: who benefits the idea here is that the band, the Beatles, 226 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: and hence the British government. They want this unparalleled run 227 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: of highly lucrative music to continue. Because at this point, 228 00:14:55,120 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: to your notion of the Beatles becoming a piece of 229 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: state power, I think that bigger than Jesus. They were 230 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: historically probably taller. 231 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 3: Absolutely true. We can't confirm the figures there. But to 232 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 3: what we were talking about earlier, I mean, the Beatles 233 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: were so incredibly beloved, especially in their homeland of the 234 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: United Kingdom, perhaps there was some concern that there could 235 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: be a rash of unalivings, to use the parlance of 236 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 3: our time, with you know, young distraught Beatles super fans 237 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 3: taking the most brutal and worst action in the face 238 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 3: of losing their beloved Paul. 239 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, because we have to understand, folks, at this point, 240 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: people have defined their persona like they have made the 241 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: They've defined their persona as the Beatles. It becomes the 242 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: north star in their moral their moral orientations. So to 243 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: lose a single Beetle may prompt a wave of very 244 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: damaging acts. So the story goes, the powers that be 245 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: find a guy from Canada that they may have already 246 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: had in their roster. His name William Shears Campbell, Billy 247 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: to his friends. 248 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 3: Has entered the chat. He'd apparently won a Paul McCartney 249 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: lookalike contest. That's a great way to find a good 250 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 3: double there. He'll suspect the thing, probably not, and then well, 251 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 3: you know, the Beatles certainly were famous enough that there 252 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 3: were likely many look alike contests, so little preparing the 253 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 3: whole time unclear, but it did apparently require a little 254 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 3: bit of plastic surgery to push him truly into full 255 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 3: on spitting image Paul territory so that he could could 256 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 3: be unnoticed in group photos. 257 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,719 Speaker 1: Yeah, the story goes, he's a few inches taller than 258 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: Paul Prime, and this is maybe why the band stopped 259 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: touring around this time. They thought the beatlemaniacs would notice 260 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: the difference live. And I want to know if it's okay, 261 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I'd like to take a moment and shout out Matt 262 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: Frederick from stuff they don't want you to know. Matt 263 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: and I got super duper into this many years ago, 264 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: and we filmed some weird videos that you can still 265 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: see on YouTube, and I'm not. 266 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,880 Speaker 3: Sure how well they aged. 267 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: But I really appreciate Jordan's research here because it calls 268 00:17:52,720 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: into we're speaking to a conspiracy theory that still holds 269 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: true for some people today. Do at the time, like 270 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six, nineteen sixty seven, the theory is the 271 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: surviving Beatles George John and uh oh Ringo. You like 272 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: how it's always oh and ringo. They felt super guilty 273 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: about this massive conspiracy. And word on happy road. Word 274 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 1: on the street is that John Lennon in particular is 275 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: little bit, uh, a little bit het up about this. 276 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 3: For sure, he's distraught, he's beside himself. Sure, he and 277 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 3: his buddy Paul had some dust ups themselves over the years, 278 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 3: you know. I mean they're both creative and musical geniuses, 279 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 3: vying for kind of being the best in the best 280 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 3: band in the world. Of course they were going to 281 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: be some differences of opinions and some sparring of egos 282 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 3: and all of that stuff. So yeah, I mean they 283 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: were again. Lennon McCartney is iconic. They the songs that 284 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 3: they wrote together were absolutely greater than the sum of 285 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 3: their parts, the songs they wrote more on their own. 286 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: If you wanted to get into more white album territory, 287 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: you start to really see their individual personalities emerge. But 288 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: John's feelings are needless to say, very complicated, you know, 289 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 3: and he's dealing with the stages of grief. Not only 290 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 3: was he missing his dear friend and songwriting partner, but 291 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 3: also was deeply traumatized after apparently being asked to bury 292 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: McCartney's decapitated body in an unmarked grave at Strawberry Field 293 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: Salvation Army Park there in Liverpool, where they had played together. 294 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,400 Speaker 3: They weren't, after all, childhood friends, boyhood friends, Strawberry Fields 295 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 3: forever indeed. 296 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: So to help clear the conscience of the three surviving 297 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: Beatles again the story goes who apparently had nothing else 298 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: to do. They said, guys, go with this plan, and 299 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: the Beatles conspired themselves. So there's a conspiracy within a conspiracy. 300 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: The three remaining Beatles say, we are going to let 301 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: the truth out, but like Emily Dickinson, we're going to 302 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: tell the truth slant. We're going to put clues to 303 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: McCartney's death in this car accident through our songs and albums. 304 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 1: Were never going to come out and absolutely explicitly say 305 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: we participated in killing twenty five percent of our own band. Instead, 306 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: we're going to release Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club. 307 00:20:52,720 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: Band banger of a record. Fantastic, really good. I quite 308 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 3: like it, actually quite good. A lot of people do. 309 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: The Beatles are one of those bands that for the 310 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 3: longest time, when I was younger, I sort of dismissed 311 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 3: because they were too popular, you know, I think we've 312 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 3: all been there as music nerds. But then I had 313 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 3: my own kind of come to Beatles moments where I 314 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 3: organically heard the right Beatles at the right time and 315 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: had my personal relationship with the Beatles from that point on. 316 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: And it was not Sergeant Peppers. It was the previous album, 317 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,560 Speaker 3: Magical Mystery Tour. I was just very it was very Sergeant. 318 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 3: It's like Sergeant Pepper's Light. It's a little bit less successful, 319 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 3: I think as a whole album experience. But yeah, man, 320 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 3: Fool on the Hill and its proto Peppers. I am 321 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 3: the Walrus, of course very proto Peppers. 322 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: And I also I appreciate you bringing up this point 323 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: because there is something I've never quite understood. I think 324 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: it's a manufactured ripe Reamit fandom. 325 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 5: Uh. 326 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:08,959 Speaker 1: There are people who will attempt to hold what they 327 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: see as an interesting conversation by asking you to choose 328 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: between the Rolling Stones or the Beatles, Right, I think 329 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: it's fine to like both. I don't understand this weird 330 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: highlander philosophy. 331 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 3: I don't there and I don't think that is relevant 332 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: at all today. At the time, though there was certainly 333 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 3: a maybe a divide, but also they were just vying 334 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: for the same audience, and they were both like at 335 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 3: a certain level of fame. And I saw a great 336 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 3: clip where some I think it's relevant though, well, oh okay, 337 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 3: we can get back into that. But I saw a 338 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 3: real cool clip with a vintage clip of Mick Jagger 339 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 3: being asked, you know, if they were if the Rolling 340 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 3: Stones were better than the Beatles, and he quite diplomatically, 341 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 3: you know, the sort of shrugged the question off and 342 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 3: really said that what they were doing is completely different 343 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 3: than what the Beatles were doing. And I think that's 344 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: the truth of all. Thought of the Stones is more 345 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 3: of a hard rocking, hard living kind of live band, 346 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: and they certainly have their sixties psychedelia kind of Her 347 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: Majesty's Satanic Requests and all of that. But to me, 348 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 3: the Beatles make better records and the Rolling Stones have 349 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 3: always been a real ripping live band. 350 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: But was she what I'm seen? What I'm saying, it's 351 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: a false dich hod. 352 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 3: It's a false equivalency, for sure, But what I mean 353 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 3: is to, yeah, well, of course you can like both, 354 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 3: but I think what it might reveal about the answerer 355 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 3: is whether they're more into studio tricks and like psychedelic 356 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 3: kind of records, or if they really like a hard 357 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 3: rocking kind of band, you know. 358 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: I mean Pepsi Coke. Yeah, you know, do what you want. 359 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: It's still do you like better Elvis or Conway Twitty? 360 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 5: I mean. 361 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: It's silly question. 362 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Do you like m I five or do 363 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 1: you like this FBI Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club band? 364 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: This releases in nineteen teen sixty seven. Let's walk through 365 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: some of the the purported hints at Paul's death. So 366 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: just to recap right now, we're in a situation in 367 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: the story where wherein I five has sworn the Beatles 368 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: and all associated entities two secrecy. Paul McCartney is dead. 369 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:33,679 Speaker 1: We've substituted a Canadian for Paul McCartney. We're no longer touring. 370 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: The Beatles are against mi I five and they're moving 371 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: subtley to let the world know that their best friend 372 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: is dead. This brings us to the floral guitar. 373 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. We also to say this presupposes that 374 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 3: the Beatles were kind of arm twisted into doing this, 375 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: you know, that they were or they had like Buyer's 376 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: remorse after the fact, they're like, wait a minute, we 377 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 3: really shouldn't have done that. We should honor our friend. 378 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: We can't come right out and say it. But let's 379 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 3: hide some clues. And where we're first going to dissect 380 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 3: some of the purported clues that you mentioned is in 381 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: the cover art, very famous, iconic cover art of Sergeant 382 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 3: Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, And admittedly there's a lot 383 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,640 Speaker 3: going on on there. It's this cool collage kind of situation, 384 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,920 Speaker 3: the Beatles all in their brightly colored marching band outfits 385 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,880 Speaker 3: posing in front of a kind of a marching band 386 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 3: style drum that bears the name of the album, Sargeant 387 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band, and then Beatles spelled out, 388 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: which is funny too. By the way, there was a 389 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: period where I mean think they've always just been Beatles. 390 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,400 Speaker 3: There's no the in most of the depictions of their name, 391 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 3: but a lot of people just call them the Beatles, 392 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,160 Speaker 3: but they are Beatles, kind of like Battles are Idols 393 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 3: or Radiohead. Anyway, on this album cover is supposedly hidden 394 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 3: quite a few clues, and we start with, as you mentioned, Ben, 395 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 3: the floral guitar. If you're looking at it right now 396 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 3: it is you almost wouldn't clock it for what it is. 397 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 3: But underneath beetles spelled out in flowers is what appears 398 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 3: to be a guitar shaped plot of yellow flowers kind 399 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 3: of with a little long neck, let's call it. And 400 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: then a circle of yellow flowers within that are some 401 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: purple and it looks like just more like leafy kind 402 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: of fauna. 403 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 5: And then it's got these kind of three like string 404 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 5: looking things stretched out across them. And it is often 405 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 5: referred to as a pee because you could look at 406 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 5: it and immediately be like, okay, that's a letter P 407 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 5: on its side. 408 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: To me, it looks more like a guitar that you 409 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 3: might see like made into a flower arrangement or like 410 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 3: a pinata or something like that. Yeah, people believe this 411 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 3: pee is, or folks of your mind right from your perspective, 412 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 3: believe this pee does look like a left handed guitar. 413 00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 3: And folks will say that's fitting because Paul McCartney was 414 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: the only Southpaw in the in the fab four And 415 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 3: if you read these tea leaves from that perspective, you 416 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 3: will start to count the number of stems if you 417 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: count the stems and think of them as strings, perhaps 418 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: on a bass guitar, you will see that rather than 419 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: four strings like on your conventional bass, there are only 420 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: three stems slash strings. Perhaps a reference to the three 421 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 3: living members of the Beatles. 422 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: Sure, we know, I know, I know, it's it's too far. 423 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm being very Charlie Dave with a red string, as 424 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: is my remit. But as we know, as history is proven, 425 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: this album cover, and this aspect of this cover was 426 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: meant to be a guitar to symbolize a stringed instrument. Apparently, 427 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 1: though if you if you get into it, this was 428 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: designed by a delivery guy who got a last minute 429 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: call to bring just whatever flowers were available at his shop. 430 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: You know, he was a floral arranger and improviser, so 431 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: you know, like everybody else in the area, this guy 432 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: knew about the Beatles and he didn't have every flower 433 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 1: in the world to work with, so he took what 434 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: he had and he fashioned them into a guitar. So 435 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: is that a conspiracy? Was the was the floral arrangement 436 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: guy also part of M I five doubt it? 437 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 3: Maybe it might have been their flower guy. Well, we 438 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 3: already mentioned the drum in the center, where the actual 439 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 3: name of the album is printed in kind of cool 440 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 3: circusy letters, Sergeant Pepper's across the top and making you know, 441 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 3: kind of following the curve the top of the drum, 442 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: Lonely Hearts in the middle and club Band on the bottom, 443 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 3: also you know, making up the second half of that circle. 444 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 3: And another interesting theory pertaining to some clues being deliberately 445 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: hidden here. If you hold a mirror up to the 446 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 3: words Lonely Heart written across the center of the bass drum, 447 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 3: you will supposedly get a secret message. 448 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: Man, it sounds okay, yeah, let me hold up a 449 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: mirror here, Okay, walk me through this. 450 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 3: Well, what do you see? 451 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to spoil it. Okay, if I'm 452 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: not looking at a mirror reflection, I'm seeing io in 453 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: E I X he And then what do you call those? 454 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 3: Those equal or greater than less than? 455 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 4: Yeah? 456 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 3: Then C I E yeah? 457 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 5: Is that? 458 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 3: And is iony x Is that some sort of Latin? 459 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 3: Is that even a thing? Let's see. 460 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 4: It is not. 461 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 3: It is just referencing Paul's dead Paul's dead clues. So 462 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: when arranged as I won x he die Okay, we go. 463 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 3: The mag suggests a date eleven nine or November ninth, 464 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 3: nineteen sixty six, which is supposedly when Paul died. There 465 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 3: are diamonds between the words he and die, which points 466 00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 3: directly at the image of Paul on the cover. And 467 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 3: it's a weird one for sure. 468 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. 469 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've actually run into this problem myself when I 470 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 3: was in Berlin and it was during COVID and I 471 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 3: had a one of those dog yeared vaccine cards and 472 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,719 Speaker 3: I was rejected from an event because of the discrepancy 473 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 3: between the way American dates are printed and European dates 474 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 3: are here we yeah, we do a month, day, year, 475 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,080 Speaker 3: and there they do the year. 476 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: First, right, so it would be the difference between say 477 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: April tenth, twenty twenty five and ten April twenty twenty five. 478 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 3: That's right, I mean I spoke incorrectly. It is exactly right, day, 479 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 3: month and then year rather than month day, so in 480 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 3: English style the day would actually read September eleventh. Yeah, 481 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: also a little weird. Let's move on to the car. 482 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 3: There is a toy car depicted on this image that 483 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: may be intended to reference the Aston Martin that crashed 484 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 3: and supposedly, you know, killed young Paul McCartney. 485 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: Correct On the far right of the album cover, you'll 486 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: see what could be a white Aston Martin, you know, 487 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: the same vehicle Paul McCartney was driving when he had 488 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: his fatal crash. If you look closely, you can see 489 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: what appear to be small all flames shooting from the windows. 490 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: You will also run into any number of theorists who 491 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: say that the the art of the car shows a 492 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: bloody interior to the. 493 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 3: I can't even see it. Where is it? 494 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: It's they're reading to leaves man. 495 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,560 Speaker 3: Well, I don't see the car. I'm trying to look. 496 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 3: I've got a pretty big blown up image of where 497 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,000 Speaker 3: are you seeing. 498 00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: On the far far right of the album cover, there's 499 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: a doll, and the doll is hold has a small 500 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: car in its lap. Oh yeah, really yeah, you gotta 501 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: zoom in, hold on, zoom in. 502 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,360 Speaker 3: All right, we'll carry on. Then, Well, I try to 503 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 3: find this. 504 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: To the right of the doll, there's a driving glove. 505 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: Is it covered in blood? We get to bust this 506 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: myth real quick. Paul McCartney did have an Aston Martin. 507 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 3: It's a dB six. 508 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: It's an amazing car. I love. You know, I still 509 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:06,480 Speaker 1: got my car stuff DNA here. Aston Martin's are pretty cool, 510 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:11,200 Speaker 1: and the Aston Martin dB six is pretty cool. The 511 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: issue is Paul McCartney's Aston Martin dB six was not white. 512 00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: It was green, and as our pal Jordan points out, 513 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: the things that people are calling flames or blood are 514 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 1: are probably just red fabric from the doll's dress. But 515 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: let's explore this album cover in more depth. Actually, let's 516 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: get past the cover. Let's go to the gatefold sleep 517 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: that's right. 518 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: In the gatefold sleeve, there's an image of Paul wearing 519 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 3: a patch on his left arm that looks like it 520 00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: bears the initials OPD, which supposedly, according to this theory, 521 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 3: stands for officially pronounced dead, which I believe is the 522 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: British equivalent of DOA, which we would say here in 523 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: the States. However, in reality, what actually says is OPP 524 00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 3: which stands for Ontario Provincial Police, which is also interesting 525 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 3: considering that the supposed Paul doppelgangers from Canada. That's not 526 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 3: mentioned here, but I just thought I bring that up. 527 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 3: McCartney actually talked about this in a nineteen sixty nine 528 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 3: article for Life Magazine written by John Neary referring to 529 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: all of this hullabaloo, by the way, which we're going 530 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 3: to start to hear the Beatles themselves weighing in on 531 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 3: saying it is all bloody stupid. I picked up the 532 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 3: OPD badge in Canada. It was a police badge. 533 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: And the conspiracy continues. If you check out the back 534 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:51,200 Speaker 1: cover of the album, you will see that Paul or 535 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: as our research associate Jordan likes to call him, full 536 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: is the only Beatle with his back to the camera. 537 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: This apparently symbolizes how Paul has turned his back on life. 538 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: Uhtretch ye, i'd be. But also, if you're covering up 539 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: a death, are you really gonna are you really gonna 540 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,759 Speaker 1: slide these things in? Is it really a case of 541 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: like the Beatle, the remaining Beatles silently protesting m I five. 542 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, let's see. That is the That is the theory again. 543 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,440 Speaker 3: If we flip the album over looking at the back cover, 544 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 3: there are lyrics printed on the back cover as well, 545 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 3: which was a first in rock and roll history. Apparently, 546 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 3: right above Paul's head are the words without You from 547 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 3: the title of George Harrison's song within You Without You, 548 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 3: which was on I believe Rubber Soul. Harrison can be 549 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 3: seen pointing at the words from She's Leaving Home, which 550 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 3: was I think on Revolver now within you value and 551 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 3: She's living Homer and Revolver Wednesday morning at five o'clock 552 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: as the day begins. Those are from that song. This 553 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: was supposedly at the time of Paul's fatal accident. Five 554 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 3: o'clock Wednesday morning. 555 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: Ah, all right, yes, yes, November ninth or nine November 556 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty six was a Wednesday. The thing is, our 557 00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: buddy Paul Prime lived around the corner from Abbey Road. 558 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: It's an eight minute walk, two minute drive if you've 559 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: got a cool accid Martin. So if this guy storms 560 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: out of this recording session just a hair before midnight 561 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: on the previous Tuesday, then what was he doing for 562 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,880 Speaker 1: five frickid hours? Why did he end up so far 563 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,640 Speaker 1: from home? Did he did he go to a club? 564 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,640 Speaker 3: Did he you know? 565 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: Was he doing some like three card Monty on the streets? 566 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: Did he meet a woman try to take her back 567 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: to her place somewhere outside of the London area. 568 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 3: Well, that was a theory that we didn't mention at 569 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 3: the top. That supposedly he may or he may have 570 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 3: picked up a hitchhiker who could well have caused the 571 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 3: accident by freaking the f out when she realized who 572 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 3: was giving her. 573 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:22,360 Speaker 1: A left, right, right the shades of chap equittic. So 574 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: the point is the timeline doesn't quite add up. And 575 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: I want to give a quick shout out to a 576 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: lot of people who are not from the UK who 577 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: have gone viral with their disappointment. 578 00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,240 Speaker 3: Over visiting Abbey Road. 579 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know if he saw the news, Nol, but 580 00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,120 Speaker 1: there are there are a ton of people, honestly Americans, 581 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: sorry folks, who had these big dreams about visiting Abbey 582 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: Road and they love the Beatles, and they get really 583 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 1: disappointed when they realize Abby Road is literally just it's 584 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: a road. 585 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 3: Well, no, it's a studio. 586 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: Well they go to Abbey Road the road, and they're 587 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: disappointed to find that it's a road. 588 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: Well, then they're not doing their homework because the people 589 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 3: that would actually be Beatles fans would visit the studio 590 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 3: and the famous crosswalk in front of the studio. Abbey 591 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 3: Road as a road, I'm sure is long like Peachtree 592 00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 3: Road here in Atlanta. 593 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,839 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm just I'm exercising empathy for the people 594 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,680 Speaker 1: who saw the crosswalk and it's just a crosswalk. 595 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 3: Well yeah, well, I'm sure the Beatles aren't there anymore. 596 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 3: This looks like a crosswalk in the photography. I'm not 597 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 3: sure what these people are expecting, but fair enough, and 598 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,400 Speaker 3: I appreciate you exercising empathy for these folks. And I 599 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 3: hope they didn't know book their whole trip just to 600 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 3: be disappointed by a crosswalk. So oh, by the way, 601 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,160 Speaker 3: I made it as stupid speaking of not being a 602 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,960 Speaker 3: proper Beatles fan, whatever that means. Magical Mystery Tour totally 603 00:38:57,040 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 3: comes after Sergeant Pepper, so it is not proto Sergeant 604 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 3: Pepper at all. It is Sergeant Pepper's proto Magical Mystery 605 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: in many ways, I actually like Magical Mystery better. But 606 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 3: we're going to get to that record momentarily. But first, 607 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,280 Speaker 3: let's talk about getting a little help from our friends. 608 00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 3: I sang the line at the very top of the 609 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 3: show and we mentioned our pal from Canada, Billy Shears. 610 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,800 Speaker 3: That is the character that Ringo Starr is basically playing 611 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 3: in the narrative, that is Sergeant Pepper's lonely the loose 612 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 3: narrative of Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts club band. He is 613 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 3: meant to be this singer named Billy Shears, and they 614 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 3: introduced him the track prior to with a little help 615 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 3: from my friends kind of ends with this big fan 616 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:46,879 Speaker 3: faiish introduction of Billy Shears and then he sings, well, 617 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 3: what did you thinker? You know the one. So the 618 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,720 Speaker 3: idea of being that this was very much a reference 619 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,560 Speaker 3: to William Billy Shears Campbell. But you know, your mileage 620 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,800 Speaker 3: may vary, as. 621 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: Our research associate Jordan says, you can also look into okay. 622 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: So the juicy thing with these kind of theories is 623 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: always going to be the lyrics. If you go to 624 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,960 Speaker 1: a day in the life, there is, according to proponents 625 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: of the Poll is Dead theory, an entire verse that 626 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:26,280 Speaker 1: recounts the moments of poll Primes crash when he quote 627 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: blew his mind out in a car after he quote 628 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: didn't notice that the lights had changed and that the 629 00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: crowd had gathered at the scene and quote had seen 630 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,720 Speaker 1: his face before. This is obviously followed by the line 631 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 1: quote nobody was really sure if he was from the 632 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: House of Lords. And for people who are hearing what 633 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,399 Speaker 1: they want to hear a little bit of audio Paradelia, 634 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 1: They will say it sounds as though John Lennon is 635 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: saying not House of Lords but House of Pole. 636 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 3: Again Pole, I, I can hear that. 637 00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know when you say it with a British 638 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,160 Speaker 1: accident like that again as Jordan. As Jordan notes, your 639 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: interpretive mileage may vary. In fact, dare I say it 640 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,879 Speaker 1: we all love an historical rabbit hole, a conspiratorial rabbit hole. 641 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 1: Dare I say this kind of reasoning can be its 642 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:31,080 Speaker 1: own sort of magical Mystery Tour? 643 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,520 Speaker 3: Sure? Yeah, And that's where we are now in nineteen 644 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 3: sixty seven, with the release of Magical Mystery Tour, which 645 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 3: also has a pretty cool psychedelic album cover. Let's pull 646 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: out up. I can't I can't even remember what it 647 00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 3: looks like. Let's see Magical Mystery Tour. Oh yeah, of 648 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 3: course it's. It's got the Beatles dressed as Walruses, kind 649 00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: of posing with their arms outs. We've got well, I'm sorry, 650 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,759 Speaker 3: they're not all Walruses. The wall was Paul. One of 651 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,480 Speaker 3: them is the walrus in the front of his arms out, 652 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 3: and then in the back we've got ourselves a chicken, 653 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 3: a rabbit, and it looks to be a hippopotamus, and 654 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,760 Speaker 3: I don't remember. We've got George's the Chicken, it seems 655 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,439 Speaker 3: because that's the only one where you can actually see 656 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 3: the face, and I see a little mustache in the 657 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 3: style of what George would have worn in those days. 658 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 3: But I'm sure we can confirm who was who because 659 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 3: there's also a pretty incredible film of Magical Mystery Tour, 660 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,800 Speaker 3: and it's like a music video for every song, and 661 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 3: that's what got me into the Beatles was seeing that film, 662 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,520 Speaker 3: which is really neat and a lot of people don't 663 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,359 Speaker 3: know about it, but it's pretty cool, so I would 664 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 3: highly recommend checking it out. But Magical Mystery Tour is 665 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 3: Rainbow Letters the top, we've got the names of all 666 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 3: of the songs, and continue at the bottom. I think 667 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,799 Speaker 3: we've got side one on the top, Magical Mystery Tour 668 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 3: with Fool on the Hill, Flying Blue Jayway your mother 669 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 3: should Know, I Am the Walrus, and then side two Hello, Goodbye, 670 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,960 Speaker 3: Strawberry Feels Forever. Penny Lane has some big ones on 671 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 3: here too. Baby You're a rich man and all you 672 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 3: need is love. But somewhere hidden in there the cover 673 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 3: of Magical Mystery Tour, which features the Beatles' names spelled 674 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 3: out in stars in the rainbow kind of font. You 675 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 3: can apparently read it upside down or possibly in a mirror, 676 00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,280 Speaker 3: and it reveals a telephone number, and supposedly, when dialed 677 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,160 Speaker 3: or when a person dials this number on Wednesday morning 678 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 3: at five o'clock, the time of Paul's alleged crash, they 679 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,960 Speaker 3: are able to receive further secret information about Paul's death. 680 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,000 Speaker 3: Oh like what, Well, the voice on the line would 681 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 3: apparently say you're getting closer before hanging up, So that's 682 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 3: not really much information at all. 683 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,880 Speaker 1: Right, right, Yeah, it reminds me of oh that film 684 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: A Christmas Story where that poor kid puts so much 685 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: time into getting the decoder ring that just tells you 686 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: spoiler to drink more. Ovaltine Jordan points out that there's 687 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: a major flaw in this purported clue to the Paul 688 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:07,200 Speaker 1: is Dead theory. There's an issue of Rolling Stone that 689 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: publishes on twenty nine November nineteen sixty nine, and they 690 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,839 Speaker 1: point out it's not clear what this purported phone number 691 00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: is supposed to be. There's no telling what city this 692 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,600 Speaker 1: phone number originates from. There's no area code, so there's 693 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: no way of knowing. We want to give flowers, not 694 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: yellow flowers, to the journalist Philip Norman. Philip Norman is 695 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: the author of an early Beatles biography, Shout, and Norman 696 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: finds that one of these phone numbers actually belonged to 697 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: a journalist for none other than The Guardian, as this 698 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: poor journalist got hammered with phone calls from Beatles fans 699 00:44:55,560 --> 00:45:00,040 Speaker 1: who were convinced that Paul McCartney was dead. Folks, you 700 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,120 Speaker 1: are in media rests with us. We are down the 701 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: rabbit hole or the walrus hole officially, which sounds a 702 00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 1: little bit dirty, but I'm gonna keep it waterus hole amazing, 703 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty gross, so I would say, I would say 704 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: gross and amazing. We tease something that is a like 705 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:25,760 Speaker 1: a common mimetic concept for any fan of the Pola 706 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: is dead conspiracy. It is the lie. I am the Walrus, 707 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: uh noel. Before we wrap part one, could you break 708 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 1: this down for. 709 00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 3: Us, Well, I'm Googokucheo, I am the warous say I 710 00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 3: am the eggman as well, I am the walrus. Uh 711 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 3: goo goo goochuo goo goo goo goochew. I thought it 712 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 3: was cuckoo Kachew for the longest time. I think I'm 713 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,279 Speaker 3: probably not alone in that, but it is indeed Goo 714 00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,879 Speaker 3: Goo goojube. The song I Am the Walrus alone could 715 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 3: practically be an episode on two itself because I mean so, 716 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: and their references to this in a later Beatles album 717 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 3: as well in the song glass Onion on the White album. 718 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 3: The Walrus Was Paul, But I Am the Walrus was 719 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 3: a John Lennon composition. It is meant to be psychedelic impressionistic. 720 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:13,600 Speaker 4: You know. 721 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 3: Again, according to the conspiracy theorist depiction of McCartney's death, 722 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,720 Speaker 3: all the way down to a repeating two note pattern 723 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,680 Speaker 3: in the intro itself, much similar to a two tone 724 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 3: siren sound that you would hear from emergency vehicles in 725 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 3: Britain at the time. And according to our Gary Patterson 726 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,280 Speaker 3: in his book The Walrus Was Paul, the Great Beatle 727 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,719 Speaker 3: Death Clues, Paul suffered his fatal car crash after this, 728 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:43,000 Speaker 3: you know, fallout, squabble with Ringo or potentially with some 729 00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,360 Speaker 3: other bandmates who might have been in the mix, and 730 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 3: left the studio in a rage on a stupid bloody Tuesday, 731 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,440 Speaker 3: which is a line, and I Am the Walrus. The 732 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 3: refrain I am crying, is John apparently grieving Paul's passing. 733 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 3: And then they are pretty little policemen waiting for the 734 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,120 Speaker 3: van to come, supposedly referring to the police who arrived 735 00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 3: at the scene of Paul's fatal crash but were paid 736 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 3: to keep silence by m I five. And you know 737 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 3: with the Beatles being composed of the remaining beatles. 738 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and there are further notes or purporty clues you 739 00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:28,040 Speaker 1: can find in these lyrics, especially with some back masking, 740 00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: which we love on this show and on stuff they 741 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: don't want you to know. The song ends with a 742 00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: live BBC broadcast of a scene from King Lear, with 743 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:45,880 Speaker 1: characters saying bury me, bury my body, and oh untimely death. 744 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: Here's the quick skinny, here's the hot cheese and straight 745 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:55,320 Speaker 1: seahorse teeth. John Lennon taped that clip off the radio 746 00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: one night and he just dug the vibe of it, 747 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: how it fit with the song. And so as we understand, 748 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,960 Speaker 1: it's John's intention to put a bunch of nonsensical imagery 749 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: into the lyrics to confuse fans who have traveled a. 750 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,399 Speaker 3: Bit too far. 751 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,399 Speaker 1: John Lennon had a school friend named Pete Shotton, who 752 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,760 Speaker 1: was around as a first hand witness when John Lennon 753 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: was writing some of these lyrics. Pete Shotton goes on 754 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: to craft a memoir and according to his writing, when 755 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 1: the song is finished, his buddy, his school chum, John 756 00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: Lennon turns to him and says, let the fuckers work 757 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,200 Speaker 1: that one out. Thank you for beefing me, Max. Oh, 758 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,840 Speaker 1: we have so much more to get to. I believe 759 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: this is going to be a series, Nol. We've got 760 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,400 Speaker 1: to go further. 761 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 3: We sure, do you know? The Clues hidden in the 762 00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,800 Speaker 3: entire Beatles cattle of albums alone is going to be 763 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,319 Speaker 3: two parts, and then we're going to get into more 764 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 3: about the kind of Beatles as celebrities, as public figures. 765 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,880 Speaker 3: Acknowledging all of this stuff. Jordan is nothing if not thorough, 766 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 3: to quote the Big Lebowski, and we really appreciate your 767 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 3: work on these, Jordan, and we're looking forward to getting 768 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,120 Speaker 3: into all of them. Looks like it might be a 769 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,560 Speaker 3: three parter possibly for we'll see, But for now we're 770 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,560 Speaker 3: going to take a break and come back with part 771 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 3: two of the Paul Is Dead Clues Hidden in the 772 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,280 Speaker 3: Beatles Albums later this week big. 773 00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:38,799 Speaker 1: Big thanks to our super producer, mister Max Williams. Big 774 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:44,000 Speaker 1: thanks to our research associate Jordan Jordan. You know we're 775 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,160 Speaker 1: fans of your work. Jordan is a kick ass journalist 776 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: and we really appreciate his time and expertise. Big thanks 777 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: as well too, of course. AJ Bahamas Jacobs aka the 778 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: Puzzler just wrote back to Bahamas and he's super down 779 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: if we can get him in for one last job. 780 00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,760 Speaker 3: One hundred percent huge thanks to Jonathan Strickland, the quizter, 781 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 3: AJ Bahamas, the Puzzler, Chris Frasciotis and he's Jeff Coates 782 00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 3: here in spirit. 783 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,399 Speaker 1: And of course, where would we be without our own 784 00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:20,120 Speaker 1: in house composer, the legendary Alex Williams, who made this. 785 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,920 Speaker 3: Slap and bop indeed very Beatles esque. Actually, if you 786 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,040 Speaker 3: think about it, we'll see you next time, folks, for 787 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 3: part two of The Beatles Paul is Dead conspiracy theories 788 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 3: as hidden supposedly or not in the Beatles albums. For 789 00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:44,000 Speaker 3: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 790 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 3: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.