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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Dad starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk Hi.

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Speaker 2: Everyone. Welcome to Mother Knows Death. On today's episode, we're

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Speaker 2: going to be talking about a celebrity who claims that

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Speaker 2: she does not drink water ever, the Starbucks disfigurement lawsuit,

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Speaker 2: Reddit cracking down on Luigi content, and dogs who do cocaine.

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Speaker 2: Let's get started with this celebrity that claims that she

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Speaker 2: doesn't drink any water.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's Tori Spelling, and she went on her podcast

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Speaker 1: and she claimed she doesn't drink any water.

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Speaker 2: Ever.

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Speaker 1: She compared herself to a cactus.

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Speaker 2: I've said this before, right, I say the same exact

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Speaker 2: thing to Gabe. I always say to him, like, listen,

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Speaker 2: think of me as a plant. Like there some plants

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Speaker 2: that need to stay moist all the time, and then

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Speaker 2: there's like a cactus that you could ignore for weeks

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Speaker 2: and you don't have to give it any water. That's

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Speaker 2: how I feel like I am. I feel like I'm

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Speaker 2: a plant version of a person. I mean, listen.

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Speaker 1: She said she has an adversion to this, and a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have a problem with this, but we

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Speaker 1: understand this more than anybody. I mean, I hate drinking

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Speaker 1: plain water. It skips me out, honestly, Thank God for

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Speaker 1: Club soda and just like sparkling water in general, because

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Speaker 1: it's the only way I get water, in which some

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Speaker 1: people argue is not drinking water. But what do you

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Speaker 1: want me to do? We didn't grow up drinking water.

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Speaker 2: I know, And that's this is how I feel like

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Speaker 2: it might have started. This is the thing, though, that

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Speaker 2: the argument is not equal because Gabe arguably grew up

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Speaker 2: around the same time as I did, and he drinks

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Speaker 2: like so much water every day. So for me personally,

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Speaker 2: when I grew up in the eighties, it was like

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Speaker 2: there was no such thing as water bottle. I was

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Speaker 2: just telling my now girl this actually last week, that

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Speaker 2: bottled water didn't exist when I was a child. And

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Speaker 2: I remember specifically when I was around twelve years old,

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Speaker 2: which would have been about nineteen ninety one ish, that

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Speaker 2: I went to the store up the street, like a

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Speaker 2: I saw bottled water being sold next to soda and stuff.

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Speaker 2: And I remember going home and telling my dad, and

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Speaker 2: my dad was just like, what kind of stupid ass

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Speaker 2: wouldever pay money for water in a bottle? Haha. It

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Speaker 2: was like a big joke, right, and now it's everywhere.

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Speaker 2: But we didn't even have water bottles like that you

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Speaker 2: just like wasn't a thing. When my mom sent me

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Speaker 2: to school with my lunch, I got like a poucha

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Speaker 2: caprice son for the day and that was it. And

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Speaker 2: and like went out to school for recess and ran

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Speaker 2: if you're thirsty, you have to drink out of the

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Speaker 2: water fountain. The water fountain was like skivac. So I

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Speaker 2: didn't want to do that. It smelled weird and it

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Speaker 2: just I wasn't into it. So I got by my

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Speaker 2: entire life drinking a patch of capris on every single

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Speaker 2: it's the same thing when when we were doing sports

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Speaker 2: and everything like that, Like it just was a totally

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Speaker 2: different culture back then. We just didn't have they would

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Speaker 2: like a shot of water basically, right. I just got

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Speaker 2: working in the lab, because we weren't allowed to have

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Speaker 2: that you're not allowed to have a drink at all day,

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Speaker 2: it's a good thing that you're accustomed to not drinking water.

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Speaker 2: And also that means the benefit is that you don't

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Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean my coworkers at the bar used to

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Speaker 1: go into work till what like, I don't even know.

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Speaker 1: Some on that Saturday, I wouldn't even go in to

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Speaker 1: like a twenty ounce iced coffee and I would drink that,

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Speaker 1: and maybe before midnight i'd have half of a club soda.

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Speaker 2: And they're like, we don't understand how you're not dead. Yeah, honestly,

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if I've ever drank a full

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Speaker 2: let's have a therapy session right now. It's something I

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Speaker 2: I have to force myself to drink water every single day,

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Speaker 2: and sometimes It'll be like nine o'clock at night and

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Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, I only drank half a

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Speaker 2: Like it's just a terrible cycle of of it. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's I kind of think it's

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Speaker 2: equivalent to, like you ever hear of these people that

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Speaker 2: are just like, oh, it's seven o'clock at night, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I didn't really eat yet today, and you're like, why

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Speaker 2: can't that happen to me? I wish I could just

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Speaker 2: like not have it on my mind. I guess it's

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Speaker 2: the same kind of thing, like I just don't have

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Speaker 2: it on my mind. It's just a I don't know.

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Speaker 1: The eating could never be made. Like sometimes my husband

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Speaker 1: gets home from work at seven o'clock at night and

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Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I didn't eat breakfast, and I just

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, I would drop dead if I didn't

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Speaker 2: So I don't know. I'm kind of like that too

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Speaker 2: when I wake up. I'm just I would I would

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Speaker 2: But it's also so another thing is that like your

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Speaker 2: when really you're just dehydrated. So there's like all there.

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Speaker 1: Are other things that go with third you eat dinner

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Speaker 1: like four thirty, so of course by the time you wait,

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Speaker 1: so your body is not digesting while you're sleeping. You

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Speaker 1: like what does she drink mountain dew and or not?

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Speaker 1: She says she d diet doctor pepper, which is disgusting

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Speaker 2: Did you ever have Ginger the club soda?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I had. I'm drinking one right now and it's really yeah,

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Speaker 2: but the Ginger club soda doesn't have any or sugar

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Speaker 1: I mean, right drinking one called a Ginger Lime mule,

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that one is good. You could like you

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Speaker 2: could in theory say, well, they use water to make

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Speaker 2: but they're just syrups and all this stuff, yeah, and chemicals,

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Speaker 2: and it's just it's just really bad. And I mean

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Speaker 2: I don't want to drink water, but I force myself

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Speaker 2: I would much rather drink coffee or tea drink all day,

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Speaker 2: you know, but tea especially can give you kidney stones

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Speaker 2: if you drink it in that amount.

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Speaker 1: So well, tea can also disfigure your penis severely, like

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Speaker 1: in this next story.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. All right, let's get into that, all right.

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Speaker 1: So this delivery driver in California went to a Starbucks

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Speaker 1: drive through, and so he was picking it up in

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Speaker 1: hot drinks. And then one of the drinks, which was

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Speaker 2: All right, So my first question is, like, do you

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Speaker 1: I think for the tea. Yes, at Starbucks in particular, yes,

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Speaker 2: Like we were out so many times and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 2: It's so frickin' hot. I just I always wondered, like

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Speaker 2: the case, like when most people are going to buy coffee,

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Speaker 1: Well, you said this, complained about dunk it a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I feel about it too, and especially

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Speaker 2: like I feel like there's a cut off time, so

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Speaker 2: like right now, for example, I feel like, okay, it's

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Speaker 2: like late later in the afternoon, I feel like, okay,

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Speaker 2: I want a coffee or I want a tea or

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Speaker 2: a hot drink or something. Well, by the time it's

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Speaker 2: this is too close to bedtime, you know, Like I

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Speaker 2: want it now, I don't want it then. So anyway,

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Speaker 2: I think and if you recall that there was a

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Speaker 2: which burned a woman, which I think she kind of

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Speaker 2: set the precedent for this to be a thing back

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Speaker 2: in the day when that happened. I don't do you

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Speaker 2: remember that specific case.

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Speaker 1: That of course I do, because Seinfeld did an episode

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Speaker 2: So in that case, McDonald's was responsible for having the

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Speaker 2: coffee itself hotter than it should have been and that

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Speaker 2: was what was cause of the burns. This case is

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Speaker 2: a little bit different, and it's more interesting because they

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Speaker 2: obviously have video at the drive through that shows the

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Speaker 2: barista putting the tea into the cup holder and not

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Speaker 2: dollars for that mistake. That's outrageous. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I want to come in justice for the barista because

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Speaker 1: I've gotten trays of drinks from Starbucks before, and I

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Speaker 1: don't find their trays to be particularly that great. And

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Speaker 1: I want to also say when I've noticed when I've

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Speaker 1: Reddit is being accused of censoring content related to Luigi MANGIONI.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting to me because I felt like Reddit

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Speaker 2: going to go back through this person's social media and everything,

434
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Speaker 2: and then they're going to see that these conversations took

435
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: place on Reddit. I mean, like if that was one

436
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,879
Speaker 2: of my family members, for example, I'd be looking to

437
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,560
Speaker 2: go after Reddit as well for allowing the talk to

438
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,719
Speaker 2: and the contact to even a car over it. So

439
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 2: I mean, and this could be said about like God,

440
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 2: lots of different things going on in the world right now,

441
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 2: so there's some responsibility I guess for it. It's just

442
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 2: like I said, they created all this technology so fast,

443
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 2: and now they don't have the they don't have the

444
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: resources or the knowledge to get on top of it

445
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,120
Speaker 2: as fast as people are, you know. Like it's just interesting, like.

446
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Speaker 1: Why now, because I always see Reddit. Remember when billion

447
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: googled what's the dark Web? I see Reddit as this

448
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,160
Speaker 1: weird in between of social media and what we think

449
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 1: of as the dark web. It's like this website that

450
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Speaker 1: exists that is currently running where people could talk about

451
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 1: literally anything. But they're clearly implementing a bunch of changes

452
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: recently because they will be held responsible if something happens eventually.

453
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, and there's been times where we've been talking about

454
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:12,920
Speaker 2: certain cases and we're and this would be years ago

455
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: that we'd be like, you know, well, let's look on

456
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 2: rid it and see if we can find it, because

457
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 2: with a traditional Google search, like we're not able to

458
00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,119
Speaker 2: get this stuff and then you find it right away.

459
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,439
Speaker 2: But like you're saying, like it's not as easy to

460
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Speaker 2: do anymore.

461
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, and obviously like most technology and their tools, like

462
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: you don't just go on Reddit for bad things, right,

463
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: Like you can go on there, like you're saying, for

464
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:39,239
Speaker 1: gardening tips or cooking or like medical things. I mean

465
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,400
Speaker 1: I wouldn't take medical advice, but you could see other

466
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 1: people's experiences with certain stuff. But definitely people are going.

467
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,560
Speaker 2: On it for nefarious reasons. All right, So this next

468
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 2: case is so horrible. We didn't we didn't report it

469
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: when it happens because someone's killed at least once a

470
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Speaker 2: week by a dog. So like we're not reporting them

471
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: unless they're extenuating circumstances because it would just get boring

472
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 2: really quick. But let's talk about them. When was this

473
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: When did this case happen? This happened last year.

474
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Speaker 1: So a seventy three year old grandma was outside of

475
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: her condo and she was just, you know, doing old

476
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Speaker 1: lady things and gardening, and then all of a sudden,

477
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,399
Speaker 1: her neighbors to pit bulls came out of nowhere and

478
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 1: attacked her and started dismembering her in front of her

479
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: disabled husband who was there in a wheelchair. And it

480
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,200
Speaker 1: turns out that the dogs were on cocaine.

481
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Speaker 2: God, this just pisses me off so bad. So before

482
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,680
Speaker 2: all you crazy pitbull people get all on us, that's

483
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Speaker 2: how it was reported in People magazine as them being

484
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Speaker 2: pit bulls. So because I know that a lot of

485
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: people who own pitpules think they're like the sweetest teddy

486
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: bears in the world, and they're not actually really a

487
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 2: breed and they get bullied. So just putting it out

488
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080
Speaker 2: there that we're not the ones saying it. It's been

489
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: reported in the New But like, it's pretty hard to

490
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 2: deny the fact that that particular type of dog is

491
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: listed in ninety percent of these cases. And I know

492
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Speaker 2: that other dogs bite people a lot of time. Owners

493
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: are say, chihuahuas bite people more than piples do, but

494
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: chuahuas also don't dismember people, so let's keep that in mind.

495
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 2: I I'm not a fan of these dogs at all,

496
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: I don't want my kids anywhere near them. So if

497
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: you want to have one, and you want to have

498
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,639
Speaker 2: one next to your babies and all that stuff like,

499
00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 2: that's totally fine. I understand that it's not the dog's

500
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 2: fault that they act like this, that their owners are assholes,

501
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: like leaving cocaine around for the dogs to have access

502
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 2: to them to it, But it doesn't change the fact

503
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 2: that they have the potential to be vicious and can

504
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 2: hurt people. And it really pisses me off when it's

505
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: cases like this where this wasn't this woman's dog. She

506
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: was just living at her house, being outside, enjoying being

507
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: an old person, and they killed an innocent woman. And

508
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 2: I mean imagine being like, this is my parents' age,

509
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 2: Like imagine just like finding out that my mom was

510
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: outside guarding, which would never happen, by the way, so

511
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 2: I guess we're safe there. Yeah, but my dad's sitting

512
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: out there and all of a sudden, some dog comes

513
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,680
Speaker 2: up to her and starts like ripping her arms off

514
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,679
Speaker 2: right in front of my father. Like the trauma for

515
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: my father to experience that, the trauma for me to

516
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 2: experience that, Like, and my brother and sister just and

517
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 2: everybody that knows us. It's just it's just completely doesn't

518
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: even need to happen, because you don't need to have

519
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: these dogs, like people oftentimes get them because they think

520
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: that makes them look like a badass or something, and

521
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,360
Speaker 2: like you have, they've had problems with these dogs, these

522
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: particular people. To the point, Yeah, this situation was extremely

523
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: preventable because there had been many reports to the homeowners'

524
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 2: association about the dogs being a problem, and then a

525
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 2: judge had eventually ordered This was just a couple of

526
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: weeks before this woman was attacked, that a judge had

527
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: ordered for them to get rid of the dogs or

528
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 2: like re home them or whatever, but they didn't do that.

529
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: And then a week after that, the.

530
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 1: Cops get called because of the dogs again, and then

531
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: animal control allegedly according to this family didn't step in

532
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: and take the proper precautions. And then after that is

533
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,160
Speaker 1: when the old lady got attacked.

534
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 2: So the family is.

535
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Suing the homeowners' association, the animal control, and the home

536
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: or not the homeowners, the owners of the dogs rightfully.

537
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: So in my opinion, yeah, totally.

538
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: I mean I just can't even imagine what and listen,

539
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 2: like the dogs ended up getting shot and killed by police,

540
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 2: and it's certainly not the dog's fault, and it's freaking terrible.

541
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: It's just like, like I don't know, it's just it's

542
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: just so terrible when you hear these kinds of stories,

543
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: and I just feel really bad for the family. I

544
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: think people the homeowners' association and stuff. It's just like,

545
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 2: I don't know how if they ordered them to do

546
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: it and they didn't do it, I don't know what

547
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,679
Speaker 2: control they have over that, Like can they send because

548
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: I believe animal control officers are actually have the ability

549
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: to like arrest people when they're mistreating animals or they're right.

550
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: So I don't understand like as soon as they didn't

551
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 2: if they checked and said that they didn't remove the dogs,

552
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,160
Speaker 2: like why they didn't go in and take action then,

553
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 2: But I'm not really sure. Well, we don't know all

554
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 2: the details.

555
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: We don't know all the details of what happened, like

556
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 1: where they contacted, did they definitely show up or did

557
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: they not show up like what happened. So I think

558
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: this is really unfortunate in general, and the fact that

559
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: like all these people were calling and reporting it, and

560
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: that these people weren't doing the right thing is disgusting.

561
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: I mean, they were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, but

562
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: now they're going to face this civil suit too from

563
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: the family, which they should.

564
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, but like who cares, Like it's not

565
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: changing the situation. No, it definitely doesn't. I mean I

566
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 2: don't even know. I'm assuming that this cocaine just further.

567
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: I mean, you've heard of things like this happening with

568
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: these types of dogs that don't have any cocaine in

569
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: their body. And they were saying that the cops shot

570
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: the dog and the dogs still like got up and

571
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: went back to the lady and still was like mauling

572
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 2: her body. Yeah, I mean they like, that's freaking nuts.

573
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 1: Think about how erratic a human x on cocaine, let

574
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: alone a dog.

575
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: I can't even imagine the Again, like another situation where

576
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: the cops and first responders like showing up and seeing

577
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: like a woman being ripped apart by dogs. Like how

578
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: traumatic is that? I know? Seriously, And just god there

579
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: poor kids like hearing about this. It's just fucking terrible.

580
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 2: So so this I get this. I get a lot

581
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: of emails from different medical associations and there was this

582
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 2: interesting one that I read about sharing your medical information

583
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: on AI that I thought that we'd talk about because

584
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: it's been in the news lately.

585
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I guess Eli Musk put out like some

586
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: public message that he was encouraging people to share their

587
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 1: medical records with his AI on X called groc and.

588
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 2: Is that how you pronounce it? I assume that's what

589
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: it was.

590
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So regardless, he wanted people to share their medical

591
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 1: records with this AI system because he thinks that he's

592
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: going to try to teach it to like learn all

593
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: of the scans and how to maybe eventually diagnose these problems.

594
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: But this ethicist is coming forward saying that this really

595
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: isn't a good idea because it's not really a controlled group.

596
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: You could have people uploading fake documents. You could only

597
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: have a certain population, Like specifically, he was saying, white

598
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: males are the primary users of X, so you only

599
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: have like one certain demographic uploading their records to it.

600
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: There's privacy concerns.

601
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 2: So I think that in general, in my opinion, AI

602
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,479
Speaker 2: is a a lot of people are scared of it.

603
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 2: We're all scared of it. But at this point, it's here,

604
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: and I look at it as just being another tool.

605
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,239
Speaker 2: So for example, when I was in school, it was

606
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 2: and this was like college because I didn't even have

607
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: there was no Internet or Google by the time I was,

608
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: you know, out of high school. But when I first

609
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: went to undergrad college for psychology and we had to

610
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: if we ever had to write papers or anything like that,

611
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 2: it was like, you can't use Google as a reference,

612
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 2: do you. I don't even know if you remember that,

613
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: but because that probably didn't even happen in your lifetime,

614
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 2: but it was like, yeah, Google is not a reference.

615
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: You need to go to the library and like actually

616
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 2: write down whatever book you got this information from. And

617
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 2: now it's like nobody, like people rarely do that anymore.

618
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: It's like everything is Google. AI is just another tool

619
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: in the toolbox if it's used correctly, just to help

620
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: people do their work. Because Google was considered cheating, like

621
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: of course it's easy, Like if I just want to

622
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 2: look something up, it could pop up on my computer,

623
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: I don't even need to get in the car and

624
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: go to the library and look up anything. It's cheating, right,

625
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 2: So I think a lot of medical professionals are a

626
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: little bit threatened by the technology, just as singers and

627
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: actors are because they don't want to be replaced. And

628
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: when you see how intelligent some of these things can be,

629
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: it is almost scary that they are able to come

630
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: up with similar results. So I guess Elon was saying

631
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: that if you type in all of your symptoms and

632
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 2: put in your blood work and stuff, it could give

633
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: you a diagnosis when there's times that doctors can't give

634
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 2: you a diagnosis, which I believe is one hundred percent true.

635
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: That is completely possible. But at the same time, you

636
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: are when you upload your blood results, you're you're uploading

637
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: a document usually that you've gotten from your doctor from

638
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: a lab, that has critical information on it your name,

639
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 2: your address, your day to birth, and your medical record number,

640
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: sometimes your Social Security number, and so right there, you

641
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: always have to be concerned about that because what's happening

642
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: with these things that you're uploading, like, we don't have

643
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: any clear cut answer of what's happening. And I guess

644
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: this guy was comparing it to twenty three and meters

645
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: where people were donating. They're not donating, they were putting

646
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: in their DNA to find out their ancestry, and then

647
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they went bankrupt and it was like, well,

648
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: what's happening with all that information? Now? It's not protected.

649
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 2: And the scary thing is is that people that run

650
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: all of these tech companies, the thing that they say

651
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: always is worth the most amount of money is your

652
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: information that they want to have, so they could build

653
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: analytics based upon that. So there's just like so much

654
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: more to it. So I think that I like the

655
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 2: idea of AI for medical stuff. I almost think that

656
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: it would be better for physicians to run it through

657
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: because it's just like I said, it's another tool that

658
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 2: could possibly help them because you can't sit there and say, well,

659
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 2: the AI is wrong sometimes because guess what, doctors are

660
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: wrong a lot of times too. So it's that's that's

661
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: not a thing. But some of the things that take

662
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: into consideration. For example, like let's say a physician's looking

663
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: at a pathology report from colon cancer, or not even

664
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 2: a physician, but a PA like myself or whatever. We

665
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: could look at all the information based upon what it

666
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 2: looked like and then look at the slides and be

667
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 2: able to tell like what stage of the cancer it

668
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 2: was and what the the grade is and all of

669
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 2: that stuff. That is because when we look at this.

670
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 2: That's our education looking at it.

671
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 1: Right.

672
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: Let's say, Maria, you get diagnosed with colon cancer and

673
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: you have a pathology report and you have access to

674
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: like ten pictures of slides that came along with that case.

675
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: How do you know which slide to put in to

676
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: Grock to say, Okay, this is the one that you

677
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: need to look at and tell me what it is

678
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 2: like as a regular person, Like, would you know even

679
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: which picture to put in there?

680
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. And I agree with you where you're saying.

681
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: If you had doctors uploading this information, I think it

682
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 1: could be really beneficial, But there certainly is a problem

683
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 1: with the public just doing it because a lay people

684
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 1: don't know what they're looking at. B you have the

685
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 1: inevitable asshole that's going to upload something fake so like that,

686
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: then that's going to do a bunch of damage to

687
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: the system. I think it could be really beneficial if

688
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: you had the right people doing it in a more

689
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: controlled environment. But just having the Internet, which is like

690
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: the wild West, just like upload whatever they want. I

691
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: don't think that's such a good idea.

692
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 2: I mean, it is. It just it just worries me because,

693
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: let's say, for example, you had these these ten pictures

694
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 2: of colon cancer case and you just uploaded like a

695
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 2: random one. Well, it might actually tell you that you

696
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 2: don't even have cancer, because some of the slides that

697
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: we put through for colon cancer cases are just like

698
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 2: a representative section of benign tissue just so the pathol

699
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: just knows like what their colon normally looks like. So

700
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: what if you upload that particular picture and it's like,

701
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: you actually don't have cancer, Like this is the problem

702
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 2: with that. On the other hand, I understand the frustration

703
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 2: because I've had a lot of friends and stuff that,

704
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 2: like one of my best friends actually is going through

705
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 2: this right now, that like she's having all these symptoms

706
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: and she's and her blood test are like kind of

707
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: random and very nonspecific, and nobody could tell her what's

708
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: been going on with her body. And she might feel

709
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: like she would want to put it in because maybe

710
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 2: the computer might pick up something that that the doctor's

711
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: not picking up. Because I'll tell you what, a lot

712
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 2: of times doctors just have a really hard time putting

713
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: two and two together to come up with a diagnosis.

714
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: So I think in that respect that it's good I

715
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 2: would be scared of your privacy information because let's say,

716
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: for example, so right now, recently, I just had one

717
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 2: of my kids got diagnosed with scoliosis and we had

718
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 2: to do the whole back brace thing and everything. So

719
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: I've been like Google searching just different things if there's

720
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: any support groups or anything for kids her age, and

721
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: this and that. So I'm on Google doing that, and

722
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, I go on Facebook and

723
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 2: I start getting ads for like scoliosis, back braces and

724
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:24,239
Speaker 2: stuff like that's kind of fucked up, Like they're they're

725
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: they're gonna use your information to try to sell you stuff,

726
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 2: and and and I mean, and this is not just

727
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 2: for medical stuff, it's for anything. But you see how

728
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: other companies are using your search information to sell you stuff.

729
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: I mean, my Facebook thinks I have mezothelioma because of

730
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,479
Speaker 1: when we wrote about the asbestoicity a couple months ago.

731
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: So think of.

732
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: It exactly like it. It's that's the kind of stuff

733
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 2: that you need to worry about. And and when you're

734
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: doing that, there's like you're not even checking off a

735
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: box that says like, hey, I'm allowing you to use whatever,

736
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: cause they're there's like no rules with it right now,

737
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 2: because it's so brand new. I do think, and I'll

738
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 2: say this again, like I think that there's certain doctors

739
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: that just feel really intimidated by this technology. I was

740
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: actually surprised when I started my Instagram like twelve years

741
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: ago now that a lot of doctors and medical people

742
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 2: were kind of really pissed off that I was showing

743
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 2: some of these images on the Internet because they thought, like,

744
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,239
Speaker 2: this is only for medical people, Like, why would you

745
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: be teaching regular people this because doctors sometimes have this

746
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 2: complex that they're that they like, are these holy beings

747
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 2: that know more than the average person or something. I

748
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: don't know. But regardless, I think that a part of

749
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: it is you got you got to kind of like

750
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 2: listen to these experts because they're they're just like, oh no,

751
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: there's no way that this technology could possibly ever replace

752
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: a doctor, which in fact, it probably could at some

753
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 2: point one day, which is really scary, but I don't

754
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 2: know that's reality.

755
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: I don't agree that AI could completely replace doctors, not completely,

756
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: not completely, but human element behind all technology, you need

757
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: a human element, but it could cut a lot in between.

758
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: That's it could cut a lot in between.

759
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: But like people are like arguing that, you know, like

760
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: robots and AI are gonna completely take over these industries

761
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: with no human involvement at all. It's just not possible.

762
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 2: They let it run themselves. Let me just give you

763
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,839
Speaker 2: an example, though, So back in the day, like when

764
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: you worked in the lab, you were actually a chemist.

765
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 2: You sat there and you mixed chemicals together in blood

766
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 2: and tried to diagnose things and all and then all

767
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: of a sudden, so that took a lot of work,

768
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: a lot of employees, and a lot of like really

769
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: smart people to be able to do that stuff and

770
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: figure it out. And now it's just like, oh, now

771
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: you could just send the blood down to the lab

772
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: and a person has to stick it on a machine.

773
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 2: And yes, like a person needs to know if the

774
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 2: machine isn't working right or if the machine is wrong,

775
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 2: but like the machine's doing all of the brain work

776
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: in that situation.

777
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: But Elizabeth Holmes invented a machine for blood testing that

778
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: was giving inaccurate results, and if real people weren't analyzing those,

779
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: they wouldn't never figured.

780
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: Out I'm saying that, but one real person could analyze

781
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: that instead of the fifteen you would need to do

782
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: the actual tests, so like it cuts out a lot

783
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: of people. It just shortens it. Like there's machines right

784
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,800
Speaker 2: now that could read pap smears, So it's like, well,

785
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: why would you employ you know, six cytotechts to be

786
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 2: looking at pap smears that are allowed to read one

787
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: hundred slides a day. Where you could stick those six

788
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 2: hundred slides in a machine and have one cytotech overlooking it.

789
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: Like it cuts out multiple positions and the need for

790
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 2: people in a lot of senses, but not completely.

791
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess time will tell, But I feel like

792
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna totally do a three sixty and go back

793
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: to like no social media, no technology, because it's so

794
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: detrimental in so many ways.

795
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, the problem is is that it's it's a legit addiction.

796
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 2: But I agree with you, like there are times that

797
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,920
Speaker 2: I have these like breaks that I'm just like, you

798
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 2: know what, like maybe I should just go to cricket

799
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 2: and get a flip phone and just not not be

800
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 2: connected to this thing like this, you know.

801
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's move on to Questions of the Day.

802
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,240
Speaker 1: Every Friday at the app Mother Knows Death Instagram account,

803
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: you guys, get head over to our story and ask

804
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: us whatever you want. One, what are some good questions

805
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: to ask a person before they die?

806
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. I guess it depends on

807
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,720
Speaker 2: who the person is, right, yeah.

808
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: Because I mean if it was like your significant other

809
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: or something you want to know, like you know, all

810
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: the access to everything you need to know, they run

811
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: your household, like bills and tax and for retirement.

812
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: That stuffs like very shallow. It's shallows more.

813
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: Like did you have the best life with me? Well,

814
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: I think if you knew the person was dying to

815
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: be asking them questions, Maria's just like, yeah, bye, what's

816
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,360
Speaker 1: your passwords? I have a death folder, so now we

817
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 1: know how you feel. But like, let's say, for example,

818
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: when like Robert Wagner and Christopher Walker are on their

819
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,560
Speaker 1: like their deathbed, you might want to actually ask them

820
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: what happened with Natalie Wood right? Or like Casey Anthony

821
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: and her parents, like what really happened to Katie Anthony? Right?

822
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: They're like people you actually want to ask questions to

823
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: on their deathbed.

824
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: I think it a questions about their life. But I'm

825
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 1: saying you have to be practical too. Whatever, I have

826
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: a death folder, so you don't have to worry about that.

827
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 2: You're such a crazy person.

828
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm not a crazy person. It's practical. If I died,

829
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: I'd pay all the bills and I do everything like

830
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: I need to tell everybody where to access.

831
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: To my shit. So I don't know whatever.

832
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: All right, are you both organ dotors?

833
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: Yes? Three. I live in Cape May County.

834
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: What's your favorite restaurant to go to from oc to

835
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: Cape May?

836
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 2: Well, Unfortunately, I'm gonna tell you this that my favorite

837
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 2: restaurant down the Shore because we like, I would consider

838
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: down the Shore to be anywhere from Atlantic City to

839
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: Cape May. So my favorite restaurant is Cafe two eight

840
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,720
Speaker 2: two five in Atlantic City is cans down the best

841
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: Italian restaurant that I've ever been to, probably, but there

842
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: is a runner up that's more like old school Italian

843
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: and that's near you in Cape May County. That's called Nino's.

844
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: I love that place. Remember we went there for my

845
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 2: birthday this year. Yeah, I love that place. Is awesome.

846
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:38,960
Speaker 2: What about Ocean City Boardwalk? Our favorite place is Bashful Banana. Yeah,

847
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: bash which is like seems I don't know why, but

848
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: it always seems like I end up on the boardwalk

849
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday night and they're not open that night,

850
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: and it just like ruins my life. So I would

851
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 2: say that that is probably my favorite place. But I

852
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 2: mean Isla like love Maco Maco pizza too, obviously, but

853
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 2: they don't really have good gluten free crust and like

854
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 2: I can't. The one that they have is kind of

855
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:10,919
Speaker 2: like eh, so I don't eat it anymore unfortunately. And

856
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: we stay at the Virginia Hotel in Cape May when

857
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,919
Speaker 2: we for our anniversary, and there's the Ebbit room that's

858
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,879
Speaker 2: there that's like our fancy dining out once a year.

859
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: It's pretty expensive, but it's it's really good.

860
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find this coffee shop. I went to

861
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: an ocean city that was so good. I literally went

862
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,919
Speaker 1: there every single day really we were down there. Yeah,

863
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 1: they had, oh that.

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Speaker 2: One in Cape May Ostara is it's called That's my

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Speaker 2: favorite one there too. They have really good gluten free treats.

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Speaker 2: But their chai lats are so good. They're like I

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Speaker 2: feel like they make their own chai or something. It's

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Speaker 2: like extra spicy and delicious. So that place. I love

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Speaker 2: that place too.

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Speaker 1: You know what I really love, which is like not

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Speaker 1: an unpopular opinion is Lobster House. I think it's just

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Speaker 1: such a classic old school restaurant every time i've.

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Speaker 2: Yet, I don't know if I've actually ever been there.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: It's it's like it's similar to the pub in the

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Speaker 1: sense of being an old school steakhouse. But it's really

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Speaker 1: good and they have a lot of seafood, obviously, but

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Speaker 1: they have really good drinks. They have really good steak

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Speaker 1: I love every time we go there. I also love

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Speaker 1: Uncle Bill's. I know it's a chain, but their their

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Speaker 1: breakfast is so good and they have really good gluten

882
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Speaker 1: free pancakes there.

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Speaker 2: I don't know I've ever been there either.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're like not hitting all the good shripes.

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Speaker 2: Listen, when we go to the Virginia Hotel, they have

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Speaker 2: breakfasts that you get every day and it's so delicious.

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Speaker 2: It's from that beach plum place, you know. I love them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like really good. So we never get breakfast. We

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Speaker 2: just go out and get coffee while we're there.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I cannot find the name of this

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Speaker 1: coffee shop.

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Speaker 2: It's is it on the boardwalk?

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Speaker 1: No, it's like near the inlet.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I don't we like rarely travel

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Speaker 2: off some boardwalk. Honestly, hold on, I'm getting closer. So

896
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Speaker 2: it's called a New n E or sorry, a n EU.

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Speaker 2: I think they're only open seasonally. But they had this

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Speaker 2: rose latte.

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Speaker 1: I got it literally every single day we were there

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Speaker 1: last year. And then they had really good glute and

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Speaker 1: free pastries. They also had like chicken cutlets and kisha

902
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Speaker 1: and ice cream and all this other stuff too.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all right, so who that listener? Please write

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Speaker 2: us back and tell us what you like, because we're

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Speaker 2: always you know, we don't live down there, so and

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Speaker 2: we just keep going back to our regulars. So if

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Speaker 2: there's like really good places, let us know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to think of other plates. I definitely

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Speaker 1: love the beach Plum. There's also a winery which is

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Speaker 1: right next to the beach Plum. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: it's called off the top of my head. It's like

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Speaker 1: this big yellow building. They have really good food and

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Speaker 1: their wine's really good too. Oh.

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Speaker 2: I really like that place on the boardwalk too, that

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00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: sells the the lobster rolls because they have a glute

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Speaker 2: and free ver and they just put the lobster in

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Speaker 2: a cop. I mean, it doesn't have the delicious buttery

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Speaker 2: roll with it, but it's still so good. I think

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Speaker 2: it's called like Quincy's or something. Yeah, you know that

920
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 2: little like shacky building with the stripes on the roof. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But we love going down there. I'm not really a

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Speaker 2: beach person, but I like the short atmosphere. Yeah, like,

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Speaker 2: and you know, it's weird so at in Ocean City,

924
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Speaker 2: there's two there's it's a boardwalk with two major peers

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Speaker 2: that have rides on it for the kids. And now

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Speaker 2: this year they closed one of them down that's been

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Speaker 2: there for almost one hundred years, and I'm really actually

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Speaker 2: frightened to see what's going to happen this summer because

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Speaker 2: that means that all the people that were on those

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Speaker 2: rides are now going to go to the other one

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Speaker 2: and it's going to be even more crowded. That's how

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Speaker 2: I look at it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I'm kind of like like it's already like

935
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Speaker 2: borderline too people for me, and I just like I

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Speaker 2: can't deal with that. So I hope it doesn't ruin

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Speaker 2: it all right.

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