1 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: No Aaron Donald, no problem or a big problem. Welcome 2 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:10,200 Speaker 1: Bird Gang. On today's show, we put the spotlight on 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: the Rams as we continue to look at what's been 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,840 Speaker 1: going on within the division the last few months. Stu 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: Jackson joins me. He covers the Rams, So what will 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: the Rams do without Aaron Donald? Plus the latest on 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, Kyron Williams, and last season's rookie sensation. Hookin 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: Theakua at Cardinals Cover two, Episode seven sixty eight, and 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: it starts now. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 1: Boona Baker? What Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 12 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 13 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast. Visit Azycardinals 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 2: dot Com slash podcast. 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again. 16 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: Some more Hurry magic. 17 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Whow Here's Craigcriolo. 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: And just like that, half the year is over. Check 19 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: the calendar, Bird Gang. It is July. Really hard to believe. 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: The Cardinals report to training camp in twenty two days. 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: By the way, nine open practices at State Farm Stadium. 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: Check out Azycardinals dot Com for all the information until 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: we get to State Farm Stadium. To help us pass 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: the time, we continue our team by team look at 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: the NFC West. If you missed last week's show talking 26 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: about the forty nine ers, check the archives. This week 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: we're talking Rams and we're doing so with Stu Jackson, 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: senior staff writer for the Rams dot Com. We've talked 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: with Stu before here the Rams. They finished ten and 30 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: seven last season. They have reached the playoffs in three 31 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 1: of the past four years. But the conversation with Stu 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: began with what had to be that team's biggest story 33 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: of the offseason, the retirement of Aaron Donald. 34 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Craig, I think that's certainly safe to say, and 35 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 3: that's really the big question for this defense right now. 36 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 3: You added a lot of veterans talent to the secondary 37 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 3: in terms of signing guys like Darius Williams and Tredevius White, 38 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 3: But what's this past rush going to look at look 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: like without ninety nine. I think that's what a lot 40 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: of people are wondering, and that's certainly at the front 41 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 3: of mind for the defensive coordinator, Chris Shula Ass he's 42 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:23,679 Speaker 3: coming up with that plan. But yeah, certainly the biggest 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 3: storyline I would say of the offseason as far as 44 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 3: not only the loss or of, you know, a player 45 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 3: of that magnitude, but the also the consequences of no 46 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 3: longer having such a game rerecord like that on the roster. 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: Before we get into how the Rams go about trying 48 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: to fill that void. Just the announcement itself, how big 49 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: of a surprise, and I know we're going back a 50 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: couple of months, but the reaction, when I know what 51 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: the reaction here with the Cardinals, I mean, fans were thrilled, 52 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: and Kyle the Murray's response on social media, I though 53 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: that was great he wrote thank God in all caps 54 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: and then later on added a congratulations. But just the 55 00:03:07,200 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: reaction on the Rams side of things, when knowing that, okay, 56 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: we're not gonna have Aaron Donald on the field anymore, 57 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: I think. 58 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 3: The most telling thing or or most common thing that 59 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: you heard from Rams players and coaches was that you're 60 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,239 Speaker 3: never going to replace a guy like Aaron Donald, which 61 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 3: is which is pretty obvious. I mean, you look at 62 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 3: how they approached the draft this year, and I think 63 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 3: that's the case. You know, they added at least two 64 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: guys to the defensive front, and and he took on, 65 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 3: you know, a defense flavor if you will, with that 66 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: draft class, especially addressing to the trenches, but just a lot. Yeah, 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: it's a it's a big it's a big loss. But 68 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 3: you know they're gonna they're gonna try to do basically 69 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 3: a committee approach as far as you know, asking more 70 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 3: of really everybody on that defensive front to like I said, 71 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: kind of upfold that pass rush and really really get 72 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 3: something going there. 73 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: By the way, this was also Kyler's response on social 74 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: media after he wrote the thank God in all caps honor, 75 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: do have competed against the best of all time. Enjoy 76 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: your retirement, and please don't come back with a couple 77 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: of praying hands emojis again, And there are a lot 78 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: of people around the league that are echoing that sentiment. 79 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,240 Speaker 1: So all right, so you don't have Donald on the 80 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: football field, you mentioned drafting a couple of Florida State 81 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: teammates and Jared Verse and Braden Fist. Kobe Turner I 82 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: thought played well last year as his first season with 83 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: nine sacks, though you wonder how much of that was 84 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: because of who was next to him and Aaron Donald. 85 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: But those three players, those young players now for this 86 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: defense and that defensive front. What's the expectation for Turner 87 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: in year two and then a couple of young guys 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: coming out in year one. 89 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, the expectation is definitely for Kobe Turner to take 90 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: a step forward. I think I think there is some 91 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: fairness to you know, some of the opportunities he was 92 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: getting being because of the attention that Aaron Donald was drawing. 93 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 3: But I remember asking Aaron about this last season, you know, 94 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: like what he thought, you know, kind of about that 95 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 3: notion or narrative, and he said, well, honestly, that's what 96 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 3: he should be doing. And if you know, I'm paraphrasing 97 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: Aaron here, but like if basically, if if Turner's as 98 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 3: talented as he is and supposed to be, then he 99 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 3: should be winning those matchups and getting those numbers in 100 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: those sacks. So I do understand where that comes from. 101 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: But let's also not you know, discredit the like I said, 102 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 3: Turner's talent and the work ethic and everything he did 103 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 3: to put himself in the position to succeed and take 104 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 3: advantage of some of those matchups he was getting. Obviously, 105 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,479 Speaker 3: with Aaron being gone, now there's probably going to be 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: more attention devoted to him, knowing with everybody knowing who 107 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: he is now and seeing the rookie season that that 108 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 3: he had, and and like you mentioned, you know, the 109 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,120 Speaker 3: pair of Florida State teammates and Jared Burs and Braden This, 110 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 3: I know that you know, lesni and Sean McVay were 111 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 3: both really excited about the possibility of those guys working 112 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 3: in sandem. You know, anybody who's seen some of the 113 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: some of the coverage of the draft and kind of 114 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 3: those uh, you know, access clips inside the war room, 115 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 3: you know, knows how thrilled they were to be able 116 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: to move up and get fisks to reunite those guys, 117 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 3: and so uh, I don't want to place too high 118 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 3: of expectations on them, but certainly if you can, if 119 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 3: you can get Kobe to build on what was already 120 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 3: an impressive year, one that set him up to be 121 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 3: a finalist for Defensive Rookie of the Year, if you 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 3: can get more from Byron Young, who was you know, 123 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 3: not right behind Kobe in terms of you know, sat 124 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 3: count for rookies, and if you can get something out 125 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 3: of you know, Bursts and Fisk and and kind of 126 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 3: have you know, a couple of tandems there. As far 127 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 3: as uh, you know, inside outside, with what those guys bring, 128 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: I think that'll be a step in the right direction. 129 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 3: But again there's going to be some growing pains, especially 130 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 3: I would imagine for rookies, because again, so far as 131 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 3: you know, what we've only seen to this point is 132 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 3: you know, drills that have been no life contacts, no pads, 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: and so we'll see what happens when the Pats come 134 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 3: on in training camp later this summer and obviously when 135 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 3: the season gets going. But overall, I think there's a 136 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: lot of reason to be excited between especially those four 137 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: guys and seeing what you know, collectively they can do 138 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: on the field together, especially when it pertains to trying 139 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: to make up for the wassiton and Donald. 140 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: You brought up Chris Sula, new defensive coordinator. I'd ask 141 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: about the transition, but he's been on mcveigh's staff since 142 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: McVeigh arrived in LA in twenty seventeen. Now he's taking 143 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: over his DC or he Morris is now in Atlanta 144 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: as the Falcons head coach, but going from position coach 145 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: to coordinator for Chris Shula, what have you seen when 146 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: have you heard from him and the players now that 147 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: defensiveside being coached by Shula. 148 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the players really respond to him, Craig. That's 149 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: that's the thing that's got to me first and foremost. 150 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 3: I mean, we had we had him miked up, and 151 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: everything that he showed there is exactly what head coach 152 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 3: Seanvay talked about when he was on one of our 153 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 3: Ota recap shows recently, talking about just you know, his 154 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 3: presence and the way he communicates and things like that, 155 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 3: and so, you know, so far, so good for him, 156 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 3: and like I said, the players, you know, really respond 157 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 3: to him and respect him. The other thing too, is, 158 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 3: you know, I understand, you know, he's had a position 159 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 3: coach background, but he's also learned from you know, three 160 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: different defensive coordinators and Wade Phillips, Brand and Staley and 161 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: obviously more recently Raheem Morris. He's also coached every level 162 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 3: of the defense. So yes, he does have that position 163 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: coach background, but it's come with again having that understanding 164 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: of what each level of the defense does, which I 165 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: think will you know, really help him in this job 166 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: and is something that maybe not a lot of people 167 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 3: will remember, you know, when it comes to his background 168 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 3: and you know how he's you know, really positioned to, 169 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: I think, do well in this role. 170 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: It might be too early to answer this, but as 171 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: far as what he likes to do as a defense, 172 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: some different wrinkles, how it might look compared to what 173 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: Rahee Morris did for the past three years. Is that 174 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: something that maybe we have to wait until training camp 175 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:23,719 Speaker 1: in the preseason. 176 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 3: I think that's that's probably fair to say. I know 177 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 3: that when he did his introductory press conference, he said 178 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: that basically a lot of what they will do on 179 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 3: that side of the ball will look the same. There 180 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 3: may be some new wrinkles that they implement, but for 181 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 3: the most part, it's about knowing the personnel and you know, 182 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 3: putting those players in position to succeed, which, again, having 183 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: coached every level the defense, he has a pretty good 184 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 3: idea and having worked with several of those players already 185 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: of how to you know, fest do that and so 186 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 3: like kind of like you mentioned, I think we'll have 187 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 3: a clear idea of what that vision looks like from 188 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 3: training camp. But as of right now, it doesn't seem 189 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 3: like there should be two drastic changes to the to 190 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 3: the scheme or any of the things they do conceptually. 191 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 1: A couple other changes on the coaching staff. Morris, by 192 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: the way, now with the Atlanta Falcons, and he took 193 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 1: with him passing game coordinator Zach Robinson to be his 194 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 1: OC assistant head coach Jimmy Lake to be his DC. 195 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: I know, offensively, it's still a lot with Sean McVeigh. 196 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: But as far as handling maybe different voices in that 197 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 1: room now on the offensive. 198 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,720 Speaker 3: Side, yeah, as far as you know, the different rooms, 199 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 3: the different voices on the offensive side, I mean it's 200 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: it's no different honestly than previous years. You know, there's 201 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: always there's been quite a bit of turnover on the 202 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 3: staff every year just with you know, coaches, you know, 203 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: moving on to other jobs and things like that. But 204 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: but the way that he structured and really hires, you know, 205 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: those those replacements McVeigh that is, you know, he's always 206 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: he's always big on coaches who are who are strong communicators, 207 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: you know, who can command rooms, who can you know, 208 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 3: clearly each and communicate Like I said that you know 209 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 3: the vision for this offense, and so uh yes, there 210 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: will be uh you know, different different voices, uh, you know, 211 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: on that side of the ball. Once again, but uh, 212 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 3: you know, I think it's a credit to him and 213 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 3: just kind of and the system and structure he has 214 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 3: in place that you know, even though there is that 215 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 3: turnover again, it shouldn't see it drop off in anyway. 216 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: If the retirement of Aaron Donald was storyline number one, 217 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: maybe Matthew Stafford storyline number two. We've seen him. He's 218 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: participating in this offseason. Haven't heard from him. According to reports, 219 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: he's looking for more guaranteed money on his contract. Is 220 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: is there any concern in Los Angeles US that this 221 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: might linger into training camp and become a bigger deal 222 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: than what it is right now because it's the off season, 223 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: there's nothing else to talk about. 224 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 3: I don't think it's a concern, Craig, you know, talking 225 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 3: to Sean McVay, well, when I should say, when McVay 226 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 3: was talking to reporters when Minnie camp wrapped up earlier 227 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 3: this week, he said he expected Stafford to be a 228 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 3: training camp and you know, he appreciated how you know, 229 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: Stafford handled this as far as he's been there for 230 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 3: okas and and showing up in all of those things. 231 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 3: And so they also mentioned you know, keeping you know, 232 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: all those details in house. As far as you know, 233 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 3: all all the all that process and everything that's going 234 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: on with it, but ultimately he didn't seem too concerned 235 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,959 Speaker 3: about it causing any issues. 236 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: We don't really talk a lot about backup quarterback competitions 237 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: or the backup quarterback at all, but I do find 238 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: it interesting because with the addition of Jimmy Garoppolos Stetson 239 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: Bennick now back after a year away, how does that 240 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: quarterback room look to you? Right now? 241 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 3: I think that quarterback room is in a good spot. 242 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 3: It was good to see Stetson benict onboarded back onto 243 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: the team again this spring for OTAs after he was 244 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 3: on the reserve entify list back from September, you know, 245 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 3: really on up until well, yeah, on that list until 246 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: or throughout the season, I should say, for the entirety 247 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 3: of his Arkie season. As far as Garoppolo goes, I mean, look, 248 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 3: this is somebody who has experienced running this system. You know, 249 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: a couple of the hires that you mentioned, the different 250 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 3: voices on the offensive side of the ball in terms 251 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 3: of the coaching hires that McVeigh made. One of them 252 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: a senior offensive assistant, Jerry Schipinski. He was actually with 253 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: the Raiders when Garoppolo was there, and obviously Michael Floor 254 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:00,040 Speaker 3: was in San Francisco when Garoppolo was there, and so 255 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: he's got people on staff to be able to translate, okay, 256 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 3: what this was called in in the offense, you know, 257 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 3: with the forty nine ers or the Raiders, this is 258 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 3: this is what we call it here. And so you know, 259 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 3: if you were looking for a backup who you know, 260 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,960 Speaker 3: if if for whatever reason, Stafford would have would miss 261 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: a game due to injury and you need a backup 262 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: to step in and win you a game. You know, 263 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: Garoppolo has proven he can do that in the regular 264 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 3: season and obviously he's he's had some success in the 265 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 3: playoffs too, So I would you know, there's if you're 266 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: if you're looking for somebody to fill that role, and 267 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 3: you know, obviously the Carson Wentz, you know, becoming a 268 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: free agent, it seemed like, you know, a pretty good option, 269 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: you know, as far as like having a veteran presence 270 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 3: there and kind of solidifying that spot. And so obviously 271 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 3: with the with the two games suspension at the beginning 272 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: of the year for Garoppolo, that's gonna you know, I 273 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 3: mean something you know, they'll play in a PLA and 274 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 3: some you know Stetsan Bennett being being prepared and things 275 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 3: like that. But ultimately, the signing of Garoppolo I think 276 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: was you know, probably one of the more underrated moves 277 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 3: of the Rams offseason, especially, you know, in terms of 278 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: just kind of solidifying you know, the depth in that room. 279 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: All right, let's look at some of the pieces on 280 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: offense and Puka Nakua record sending rookie season as far 281 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: as receptions and receiving yards. What does he do for 282 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: an encore? 283 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the big question, right when you have such 284 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 3: a historic rookie year and with everything that he's accomplished, 285 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: what's next? I will say, to his credit, you know, 286 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 3: when he's been asked about it, he said he doesn't 287 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: feel like he's reached the standard yet, and he basically 288 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: pointed to Cooper Cup in the triple Crown season he 289 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 3: had in twenty twenty one. He's basically that, you know, 290 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 3: that's basically what I'm reaching for. And you know, and 291 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 3: he knows, you know, how high of the stand that. 292 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: You know, Cooper Cup holes himself too, and so that's 293 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: ultimately what he's trying to reach now. I'm not trying 294 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 3: to put words in Poopa's mouth and say its goal 295 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 3: is to be a triple Crown winning receiver this year 296 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 3: or anything like that. It's just knowing that the high 297 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: standard the Cup has for himself and the way he 298 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 3: models that, that's ultimately what Puoka is aspiring to. And 299 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: so what that translates to numbers wise, we'll see. But 300 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 3: he's certainly not satisfied with where he's at, and I 301 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: would say that, you know, the work he's put in 302 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: this offseason throughout OTAs is reflective of that. 303 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: Pooka certainly benefited with Cooper Cup not being available to 304 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 1: start the season a year ago. But now if the 305 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: Rams have a healthy Cooper Cup and Pooka Nakua week one, 306 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: and remember Cardinal fans, the Rams will be at State 307 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium in Week two, so it's very likely you'll 308 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: see that right out of the gate. But Cooper and 309 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: Poop on the field together and not having to play 310 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: with each other and do that mid season as opposed 311 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: to what they have now full off season and going 312 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: into the regular season at least for you guys knock 313 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: on Wood healthy, how that dynamic might look. 314 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: Like, Yeah, it's gonna be a really exciting dynamic. And 315 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 3: I know that, you know in with what I you know, 316 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 3: I've heard and read and seen with with Cooper, you know, 317 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 3: he mentioned how big of a deal it was to 318 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 3: be able to use that have this time fully healthy 319 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: and not be spending it not only this time, but 320 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 3: even time during training camp, not having to worry about 321 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: you know, rehaving injury and injury and so, uh, you know, 322 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 3: you have both of those guys out there, and it 323 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 3: will give Stafford, you know, two really really great options. Uh. 324 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: You know, even even with just Pooka he was he's 325 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: still putting up some you know, pretty impressive numbers. And 326 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:01,959 Speaker 3: so it's it's gonna really help this offense because obviously, 327 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: you know, Puko was you know, doing a lot of 328 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,959 Speaker 3: things that Cooper was asked to do last year when 329 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 3: when Cooper was out. And so now you have two 330 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 3: of those guys who are capable of doing that role 331 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: or handling those responsibilities. That's only going to mean good 332 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: thanks for the Rams offense, in my opinion. 333 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: In the backfield, this hasn't been a great offseason for 334 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: Kyra and Williams surgery on his hand, then he suffered 335 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: a foot injury. So first things first, his status going 336 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: into this offseason, in this little break before the start 337 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: of training camp. 338 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so he returns to practice last week and and 339 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: he'll be ready to go during training camp for a 340 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 3: training camp according to head coach Sean McVay, so McVeigh said, 341 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,719 Speaker 3: it wasn't anything to worry about as far as the 342 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 3: foot issue that sidelined him for most of OTA's So 343 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: it was a promising sign that he was able to 344 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 3: get back in the fold here towards the end of 345 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 3: OTAs and should be ready to go for camp. 346 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: So, with Williams missing some time, Blake Koram, who you 347 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: guys drafted in the third round, has seen a lot 348 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 1: more reps. How has he looked, And again we're talking 349 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: about T shirt shorts and no pads, but getting someone 350 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: like that in the third round to kind of help 351 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: balance and help that backfield overall. 352 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, the thing that stands out to me about Korum 353 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 3: is what McVeigh said about him during the draft, which 354 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: was that he reminded Korm reminded him a little bit 355 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 3: of Kien Williams. And when again, like you said, within 356 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 3: obviously within the scope of OTAs and what isn't isn't 357 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 3: allowed in terms of contact and stuff like that. He 358 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 3: there are a lot of some I see a lot 359 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:49,879 Speaker 3: of the similarities that McVeigh was talking about her. I 360 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 3: see why he said that. I mean, you look at 361 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 3: the agility, the vision, the footwork and all those things. 362 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 3: And you also look at too, like, what's this Rams 363 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: offense looked like without Kyen will millions and the difference 364 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 3: it made when he was back and fully healthy. You know, 365 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 3: there was there was a clear difference in the unit 366 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 3: they had out there in the four games he missed 367 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 3: and uh you know, the unit they had out there 368 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 3: when again he was available. And so if you're trying 369 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 3: to keep the offense running at a high level or 370 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: the same well consistent level as it was when Kyron 371 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 3: was out there, and if you know, if you need 372 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: insurance so to speak, if if you know, he ends 373 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: up getting injured, Korm and his and his skill set 374 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,680 Speaker 3: is a is a pretty good, uh you know policy 375 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: to have, I would say, because again with just the 376 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,919 Speaker 3: similarities and you know their running style and all those things, 377 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 3: you know, it's something that again you know, it's it's 378 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 3: a playbook. That's a lot to learn in the scheme. 379 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,680 Speaker 3: That's a lot for a rookie to learn in year one. 380 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,280 Speaker 3: But whatever whatever Korm can pick up is only going 381 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: to help him. And I think he'll, like I said, 382 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 3: he he'll make a He should make a really solid 383 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 3: compliment to Kyraen. 384 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: One more offensive question, Tyler Higbee tours a c L 385 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: M c L in the playoffs. Is there a target 386 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: date for him to possibly return at maybe mid season 387 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: or late this season? 388 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 3: Still no target date yet that at least that McVeigh 389 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 3: has shared. I do know that he had mentioned that, 390 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: you know, Higbee was a potential candidate to be on 391 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 3: the physically and unable to perform lists. But we'll see. 392 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 3: Obviously is a really unfortunate injury. But yeah, like I said, 393 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 3: well we'll see what that actual time line to return 394 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 3: looks like here probably closer to the season. 395 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 1: Finally, Stu, the Rams announced joint practices with the Cowboys, Chargers, 396 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,399 Speaker 1: and Texans. There are a couple of teams now that 397 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: have done that as far as joint practices two or 398 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: three three times. Cardinals are doing it once with the Colts. 399 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: But this seems to be a trend across the league 400 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: where more and more teams they're not just doing joint 401 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: practices once, but maybe twice, and in the case of 402 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: the Rams, three times. Yeah, I think I like to 403 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: get your thoughts as far as more teams looking at 404 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: joint practices and paying attention to joint practices than they 405 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: are maybe the preseason games. 406 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 3: I do know that one of the values of joint 407 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: practices for the Rams has been they've essentially been preseason 408 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 3: games for their starters. The starters, as most people know 409 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: by now er Sean McVay, really don't play in the preseason, 410 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 3: whether it's veterans or if it's somebody who has earned 411 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 3: a starting role or a role close to that, typically 412 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 3: sit out those games. And so as far as those 413 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 3: competitive reps or competitive situations and trying to get as 414 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 3: many of those as possible, the Rams have found, or 415 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: at least McVeigh has found, the best and most effective 416 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 3: way to do that is these joint practices with you know, 417 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 3: kind of the control you have obviously over those you know, 418 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 3: scenarios and situations, and so to me, it makes a 419 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 3: lot of sense, and I think it will again be 420 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 3: a lot of it will be valuable not only for 421 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 3: the Rams, but I'm sure other teams as well, whether 422 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,159 Speaker 3: they take the same approach with their starters in these 423 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: preseason games or not. But you know, I also think too, 424 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's also another avenue to experiment with 425 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 3: the new kickoff format that has been talked about quite 426 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 3: a bit throughout the grout OTAs and obviously since I 427 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 3: was you know, passed at the at the NFL annual meeting, 428 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: and so collectively, I think it's going to be a 429 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: really good situation not only to get those those reps 430 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: that the starters need during the preseason without playing in 431 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 3: those preseason games, but also to really hone what that 432 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 3: form and what that kickoff format looks like, you know, 433 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 3: specific each team. 434 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this kickoff role and 435 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: how teams attack it and then also try to cover 436 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,959 Speaker 1: it or counterattack it. And I think it's something that's 437 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: going to change weekly during the regular season. Stu, appreciate it, 438 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: and hopefully there is some downtime for you here because 439 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: as we know, training camp will be here before we 440 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: know it. 441 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Craig, thank you so much for having me on. 442 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Appreciate it and appreciate Stu joining us here. Again, the 443 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals will not have to wait long to see the 444 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Donaldis Rams. Week two, the home opener at State 445 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: Farm Stadium, Burg Gang. You want to be there. Asycardinals 446 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: dot Com forward slash buy tickets. 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