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Speaker 2: Ross doubt that. If you know him of the New
Speaker 2: York Times, he's been a columnist for a while. They're
Speaker 2: conservative columnists. He got hired at the New York Times
Speaker 2: when he is in his twenties. Still he's a he's
Speaker 2: not your typical mainstream media especially New York Times, are
Speaker 2: Washington Post or whatever colonists. He's practicing Roman Catholic, very religious,
Speaker 2: but he's not a bomb chucker, sort of like a conservative.
Speaker 2: He's like a I was going to describe him as earnest. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: very much so. And some of his religious books that
Speaker 2: I've read or listened to, him talk about are really
Speaker 2: really interesting in that sort of stuff. But anyway, he's
Speaker 2: leaving the New York Times. Barry Weiss hired him over
Speaker 2: at sixty Minutes to try to balance out their coverage. Good.
Speaker 2: I'm happy to see that, man. I saw some pushback
Speaker 2: on that online last week that was just oh yeah,
Speaker 2: insane about this religious nut job will have had his way,
Speaker 2: we'd be living in a theocracy being hired by Barry
Speaker 2: Weiss to further blah blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Well not only that, but they're afraid that sixty Minutes
Speaker 3: might become biased. I mean, can you imagine.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, I'd forgotten he wrote The Decadent Society.
Speaker 2: I loved that book, with a different kind of view
Speaker 2: of what the word decadent means than we usually use.
Speaker 2: And that's where we are culturally. But anyway, well maybe
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that at a different time. But sorry,
Speaker 2: I'm making a note.
Speaker 3: That is number eight hundred and six on books I
Speaker 3: need to read back to you.
Speaker 2: So who is this nut We're about to hear Ross
Speaker 2: talking to oh Lordie Jack.
Speaker 3: So Ross does these interview podcasts, and this one happens
Speaker 3: to be with a fellow by the name of Samuel Moyne,
Speaker 3: who is the Kent Professor of Law and History at
Speaker 3: Yale University. He also serves as head of one of
Speaker 3: the colleges within the University of Yale. He is an
Speaker 3: academic super heavyweight and an important law school professor. Why
Speaker 3: don't we just go ahead and play the audio, then
Speaker 3: we will discuss. You may drive off the road, so
Speaker 3: prepare yourselves.
Speaker 4: I've gotten in some hot water for proposing we consider
Speaker 4: overweighting the votes of younger people or a cycle.
Speaker 2: Stop it for just a second.
Speaker 3: I've got to point out this guy went to the
Speaker 3: same voice coach as the guy with the worst voice
Speaker 3: in America, kind of that Northeast intellectual, very effeminate, vocal
Speaker 3: fry e voice. Anyway, you got to get past that
Speaker 3: to listen to his ideas well.
Speaker 2: And I know we're not getting to the content yet,
Speaker 2: but he just talked about overweighting the votes of young
Speaker 2: people like they are the votes would count more than
Speaker 2: if you're young. That is his premise. That's correct. Listen
Speaker 2: to this, would you.
Speaker 4: I've gotten in some hot water for proposing we consider
Speaker 4: overweighting the the votes of younger people or assigning the
Speaker 4: youngest eligible voters proxy votes for the unrepresented children of
Speaker 4: our country. So those are edg why not assign them
Speaker 4: to those children's parents. Well, because there's a divergence of
Speaker 4: interest between parents and children, and I think it's likely
Speaker 4: or that young people, not people who are raising families,
Speaker 4: will have the best insight into the interests of children,
Speaker 4: whereas if you were awarded five.
Speaker 5: Think I think it's absurd to imagine that a twenty
Speaker 5: four year old recent college graduate has a better assessment
Speaker 5: of the interests of my own children than I do.
Speaker 5: And I say this with all due respect to twenty
Speaker 5: four year old recent college graduates of whom I hope
Speaker 5: to be the parent in nine years or so. I
Speaker 5: think parents generally confuse the interests of their family with
Speaker 5: the interests of their children. And part of our goal,
Speaker 5: I think is parents, but also as a society, is
Speaker 5: trying to make sure that children aren't the hostages of
Speaker 5: their parents as much as we rely on parents to
Speaker 5: raise them.
Speaker 2: Well, there's a sentence for you. Wow, there's a sentence
Speaker 2: for you. We don't want children to have to be
Speaker 2: the hostages of their parents.
Speaker 3: Right, and that children have a better grasp of their
Speaker 3: needs and self interest than their parents do. Therefore, we
Speaker 3: should give the youngest people more votes. Is there any
Speaker 3: society like you get two votes because you're voting for
Speaker 3: the children who can't vote as a nineteen year old.
Speaker 2: Is there any society in the history of planet Earth
Speaker 2: that has ever thought that? I mean, you know, you
Speaker 2: picture Native Americans and elders and Asian cult no f no,
Speaker 2: I did like what he said. Often the desires of
Speaker 2: the children diverge from those of her parents. Oh really,
Speaker 2: I hadn't noticed that as a parent. Did he say
Speaker 2: desires or well, it doesn't matter, Yeah, but what your
Speaker 2: kids want? Oh really, you want to go to Disneyland
Speaker 2: and eat cake all day? I hadn't noticed that.
Speaker 3: That diverges from my idea of your best interest. There
Speaker 3: are some ideas so insane only an intellectual could have them.
Speaker 3: There is a Yale law professor saying that young people
Speaker 3: should get extra votes. He is and including children. He is.
Speaker 2: Children are the hostage of the family. Our education system,
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like we say this every day,
Speaker 2: but it needs to be said with like exclamation marks
Speaker 2: and underlined and highlighted and circled. Our education system is
Speaker 2: so out of control. Yes it is. This guy is
Speaker 2: one of the most influential law voices on Earth, oh,
Speaker 2: the most prestigious law universities in the country on the planet.
Speaker 2: And he believes the craziest thing I've ever heard.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he is something close to I doubt he is
Speaker 3: textbook mentally ill. There are probably some plain spoken, common
Speaker 3: sensical descriptions for this somebody who's gotten so swept away
Speaker 3: by their ideology they're now completely unmoored from reality.
Speaker 2: Well, getting back to his first sentence, he wants to
Speaker 2: overweight the votes of young people, so the you know,
Speaker 2: two young people could outvote three older people or something,
Speaker 2: because they they're smart, they're wiser than us.
Speaker 3: And indeed children children should be in charge of children's
Speaker 3: lives because they know better than their parents.
Speaker 2: You know, how long was that. Let's listen to that again.
Speaker 2: There's a lot there. There is a lot there. Go ahead.
Speaker 4: I've gotten in some hot water for proposing we consider
Speaker 4: overweighting the votes of younger people or assigning the youngest
Speaker 4: eligible voters proxy votes for the unrepresented children of our country.
Speaker 5: So those are edgy, why not assign them to those
Speaker 5: children's parents. Well, because there's a divergence of interest between
Speaker 5: parents and children, and I think it's likelier that young people,
Speaker 5: not people who are raising families, will have the best
Speaker 5: insight into the interests of children, whereas you if you
Speaker 5: were awarded five. I think it's absurd to imagine that
Speaker 5: a twenty four year old recent college graduate has a
Speaker 5: better assessment of the interests of my own children than
Speaker 5: I do. And I say this with all due respect
Speaker 5: to twenty four year old recent college graduates of whom
Speaker 5: I hope to be the parent of in nine years
Speaker 5: or so.
Speaker 4: I think parents generally confuse the interests of their family
Speaker 4: with the interests of their children, and part of our goal,
Speaker 4: I think is parents but also as a society, is
Speaker 4: trying to make sure that children aren't the hostages of
Speaker 4: their parents as much as we rely on parents to
Speaker 4: raise them.
Speaker 3: Actually makes the witticism that was partially cut off saying
Speaker 3: experience the parents are more the hostage of the children,
Speaker 3: which is a funny thing to say. The learned professor
Speaker 3: has no children as far as I can tell, no
Speaker 3: way that will. I know, it's surprising, isn't it, given
Speaker 3: his incredible insight. You know, I gotta admit I'm ed
Speaker 3: An r uf In kidding me spot mentally, emotionally right now.
Speaker 3: I can't believe this guy is gainfully employed much less employed,
Speaker 3: is one of the head guys that Yales Law School.
Speaker 2: Well, I came across astonished. I came across that clip
Speaker 2: a bunch of different places being retweeted by people I like,
Speaker 2: like Joanah Goldberg said congratulations on Ross and Ross for
Speaker 2: engaging him in the conversation. I think I want to
Speaker 2: just hit him in the head with the microphone. It's like,
Speaker 2: you are a numbnuts. But so that thing at the
Speaker 2: end distracted me. We don't want kids to be the
Speaker 2: hostages of their parents. But that sentence before that with
Speaker 2: the the kids understand and their interests better than the
Speaker 2: people in charge of the family or whatever it is.
Speaker 2: But what does that even mean? So that's that thing
Speaker 2: you always talk about with college professors who think the
Speaker 2: nuclear family is a negative. So it's an it's an
Speaker 2: organ of oppression. So most of us the family unit is,
Speaker 2: you know, that's kind of the highest everything. And he
Speaker 2: thinks that gets in the way of the best interests
Speaker 2: of the kids, which is so weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I could parse more of what he said.
Speaker 3: But at this point I feel like I'm listening to
Speaker 3: the rantings of a madman in my uh my patience
Speaker 3: is limited.
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't be bothered really at all if he's
Speaker 2: just a I don't know, he's just some online guy
Speaker 2: that you know, got a PhD in something weird. But
Speaker 2: he's one of the most important law schools in the world,
Speaker 2: or in law school in America.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's our Nobody like him should be able to
Speaker 6: be running anything ever teaching kids, and.
Speaker 2: He's at like the highest level of it.
Speaker 3: Look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna tell you to
Speaker 3: say I told you so. But if any of you
Speaker 3: thought old Joe Geddy ranting about how completely insane our
Speaker 3: university systems have become, you know what, a writen apology
Speaker 3: would be.
Speaker 2: Great. God, that's crazy. I know, it's crazy. Where did
Speaker 2: we have the common sense conversation? Now or two kind
Speaker 2: of fits in with that. So this is a guy
Speaker 2: that's got so much education that he ignores what he
Speaker 2: sees around him, Because I would think that he would
Speaker 2: look around him and realize that twenty one year olds
Speaker 2: often have really distorted wrong views of the world because
Speaker 2: of their lack of life experience, not their fault. I
Speaker 2: did too, Whereas somebody who's fifty years old and has
Speaker 2: had multiple jobs and raised kids and pay taxes all
Speaker 2: this sort of stuff has all kinds of insights that
Speaker 2: a twenty year old does not have.
Speaker 3: For instance, seen every scam political and otherwise that's come
Speaker 3: down the pike and recognizes them and thinks, oh, I
Speaker 3: know that one. No, a twenty something, you know, Ross
Speaker 3: does that at one point said with all due respect
Speaker 3: to twenty four year old recent college graduates, And I
Speaker 3: thought that was one of the most ironic uses of
Speaker 3: that phrase I've ever heard.
Speaker 2: How much respect is do them exact?
Speaker 7: Not?
Speaker 2: Anyway?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, one of the reasons I soured on academia,
Speaker 3: and it had some role in me not going to
Speaker 3: law school, was that I realized in academia you spin
Speaker 3: a line of bull crap, and sometimes it's truth and
Speaker 3: exploring science or coming to great you know, you know,
Speaker 3: realizations about humankind, but often.
Speaker 2: It's just crap.
Speaker 3: And your career depends on you reinforcing your bull crap
Speaker 3: one hundred percent and making it more complicated, writing books
Speaker 3: about it, selling it to other people, convincing your undergrads
Speaker 3: having grad assistants who help you perpetuate your bull crap,
Speaker 3: which when if it is exposed to the real world
Speaker 3: for like a day, it would wither because it's.
Speaker 2: Crap's crap, it's crap, it's crap. That's my point precisely.
Speaker 2: And this guy.
Speaker 3: Has spun one of the more ridiculous lines of bull
Speaker 3: crap I've ever heard in my life. He has attained
Speaker 3: great heights of academia. People probably tremble in his presence.
Speaker 3: He's so important and he is completely divorced from reality.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure if he gives you the nod for
Speaker 2: a job or a position in another college or something
Speaker 2: like that, it's among the most important things that could
Speaker 2: happen to you.
Speaker 3: Oh if he writes your letter of recommendation as you're
Speaker 3: applying for law jobs, as my daughter is right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay, here's everybody do an experiment this week
Speaker 2: and let your kids be in charge of everything, what
Speaker 2: you do, where you go, how you spend your money,
Speaker 2: what you eat. Then see how it goes. They know
Speaker 2: better than you do. You a presser, get out of
Speaker 2: their way shanty shop on shron and.
Speaker 1: Armstrong.
Speaker 3: Heyetty here's your freedom loving quote of the day. Continuing
Speaker 3: on our on and off series on Iran. This is
Speaker 3: from Zippy Livney Use, a commentator on the Middle East.
Speaker 3: Hamas does not represent the national aspirations of the Palestinians.
Speaker 3: It represents extreme Islamic ideas which they share with Iran,
Speaker 3: Hesblah and Syria. That was back when Asad Ran Sirih.
Speaker 3: I think I wonder when that was dated, because Sirih
Speaker 3: has changed a great deal a former Islamist now in charge.
Speaker 3: Interesting question mailbagot drop us a note mail bag and
Speaker 3: I'm strong getdi dot com. Dave from South Carolina writes, yes,
Speaker 3: Jack Trump can call it off and he did. Did
Speaker 3: you ever stop to think that he might have a
Speaker 3: little more info about this situation than you two chuckleheads?
Speaker 2: And is there something wrong with not going to war? Really?
Speaker 2: Can I say this with the utmost affection for the
Speaker 2: two chuckleheads?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: I agree. And a lot of Trump's critics who would say,
Speaker 2: you know, he won't listen to allies and he's going
Speaker 2: to start World War three. He should be happy that
Speaker 2: he didn't pull off the biggest military operation since World
Speaker 2: War Two, he said, And he's listening to allies. He
Speaker 2: called it off because NBS and Saudi Arabia said, hey,
Speaker 2: please don't do that. But the part is the crying wolf.
Speaker 2: You gotta stop crying wolf, Daves.
Speaker 3: The counterpoint would be, he started a bar fight thinking
Speaker 3: the other guy would back down, and when the other
Speaker 3: guy didn't back down, now he's left a situation that's
Speaker 3: much significantly worse in a lot of ways than it
Speaker 3: was before and has no idea what to do with it,
Speaker 3: do about it.
Speaker 2: Rather, I am a chucklehead though.
Speaker 3: Some folks today is Henry's topic. I was listening to
Speaker 3: Jerry Klower's a popular country comedian from the seventies. Jack,
Speaker 3: Did you know Jerry Klower's act o? When I was
Speaker 3: a little kid, he was on heel. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's gonna say the name is vaguely familiar, but I
Speaker 3: was more of a city boy anyway. He said, some
Speaker 3: folks today are educated beyond their intelligence. I thought that
Speaker 3: explains today's socialists pretty well, educated beyond their intelligence.
Speaker 2: That's an actual thing. That's an interesting concept, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: it clearly is true. It's a thing. Oh yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 3: I mean, once you surpass somebody's level of intelligence, or sophistication,
Speaker 3: skepticism maybe what would you call it, because it could
Speaker 3: be somebody with a fourth grade education who's very, very
Speaker 3: street smart. Once you surpass the level of somebody's skepticism
Speaker 3: or intelligence, education just becomes indoctrination. You're not introducing ideas
Speaker 3: to them, You're just imprinting ideas upon them.
Speaker 2: And what is common sense? Has that ever been like
Speaker 2: analytically nailed down as a part of intelligence. I don't
Speaker 2: think it's one of the They talk about emotional intelligence,
Speaker 2: and you know, all kinds of different musical mathematics. I've
Speaker 2: never heard common sense. But that's got to be something,
Speaker 2: oh star.
Speaker 3: Scholarly papers and or you know, thought provoking books on
Speaker 3: the topic. But not you'd think at this point in
Speaker 3: our lives we would have heard a good, solid sentence
Speaker 3: or two definition of common sense, like the sort of.
Speaker 2: Person would say, you can't close prisons, not have jails,
Speaker 2: that's nuts, right, since the dawn of man, Offer your
Speaker 2: own make your subject line common sense in all caps.
Speaker 3: If that help me see it quickly, offer your simple
Speaker 3: definition of common sense, and we will reconvene perhaps tomorrow
Speaker 3: at roughly this time, and share those with each other.
Speaker 2: I think that'd be cool again.
Speaker 3: The email address is mail bag at Armstrong and getty
Speaker 3: dot com. Here's a great point from Alan from Rosetown.
Speaker 3: If Mayor Mumdanni's going to open up government grocery stores,
Speaker 3: think about this. And I've been thinking about this a
Speaker 3: great deal. Inspired by another learned commentator, I heard if
Speaker 3: eggs cost a bodega owner ninety five cents, so the
Speaker 3: private store owner can sell them for a dollar, why
Speaker 3: not buy them wholesale at the government store that's selling them,
Speaker 3: as Mundani claim, is at thirty percent less than the
Speaker 3: private owner. So the bodegas just buy them at seventy
Speaker 3: cents and sell them at seventy five cents. Government store
Speaker 3: will have their shelves emptied by egg sellers. You're exactly right, Allan.
Speaker 3: It hadn't occurred to me, and I'm a bit ashamed
Speaker 3: of this, having studied this for a long time. There
Speaker 3: will be hoarding and reselling because the government proposes to
Speaker 3: artificially subsidize, to fix the price by artificially subsidizing it.
Speaker 3: And whenever you distort a market by doing something like that,
Speaker 3: maybe it's price celings, maybe it's price floors. You cause
Speaker 3: people to adjust their sales in a significant way. Well
Speaker 3: in distort less is all right?
Speaker 2: Oh my god. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And so whether it's bodega owners or just I'm gonna
Speaker 3: go in there and buy every single ham at thirty percent,
Speaker 3: you know, bolow market.
Speaker 2: Sell them in the parking lot. Exactly.
Speaker 3: I'm going to corner the ham market and then sell
Speaker 3: them at a modest profit in the parking lot.
Speaker 2: Why he wouldn't die, honey, This is only four hundred dollars.
Speaker 2: Why didn't we make more? I ate half the ham
Speaker 2: tied cornered.
Speaker 3: The market than I ate the market shown getty shop
Speaker 3: arm showing. Jack just sent me. We were talking about
Speaker 3: this not too long ago. This transgender player dominating Frank
Speaker 3: pardon basketball. Yeah, yes, this transgender player dominating France's second
Speaker 3: tier women's basketball league and now the WNBA is is
Speaker 3: not out of question. I mean, he is is clearly
Speaker 3: heading toward I mean he he's a hell of a woman.
Speaker 3: I mean, this woman deserves our respect. He averaged twenty
Speaker 3: one points and twenty rebounds, swept Player of the Year,
Speaker 3: Defensive Player of the Year and uh Domestic Player of
Speaker 3: the Year. Meeting French Player of the Year in the
Speaker 3: French League after a record breaking campaign and won't rule
Speaker 3: out a run at the WNBA, proving once again men
Speaker 3: are better at being women than women.
Speaker 2: And he got a couple of coaches in recent days
Speaker 2: because of the whole Maga Barbie Sophie Cunningham thing. I
Speaker 2: don't like that term. I just that's what they call her.
Speaker 2: And the coach is coming out and saying, I believe
Speaker 2: in inclusivity. So yeah, guys should be able to play
Speaker 2: trans women should be able to play in a league. Okay,
Speaker 2: you just set it out loud. Well, here he comes
Speaker 2: and on your bluff, Yeah, here he comes. And are
Speaker 2: you not gonna sign him because would he make your
Speaker 2: team better or not? Clearly yes, of course yeah, because
Speaker 2: he's a man, is a very big if you don't
Speaker 2: sign him up for your team, what's the reason?
Speaker 3: Exactly? And muscular too. I wish I had arms like
Speaker 3: that woman anyway, who is a man? The idea that
Speaker 3: that is Looney Tunes is just common sense. And we
Speaker 3: were talking about common sense the other day and talking
Speaker 3: about a definition for it, and I threw it out
Speaker 3: to you good people to find common sense for us.
Speaker 3: Thought I'd run through a handful of those. I have
Speaker 3: my own, Jack, I don't know if you have one
Speaker 3: or or could craft one. Well, just to set it
Speaker 3: up what I've always been hearing this your whole life. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he's book smart, but he doesn't have any common sense. Well,
Speaker 3: I've never heard did they qualify that as one of
Speaker 3: the kinds of intelligence now that we've broken it down
Speaker 3: to emotional intelligence? Or what are some of the other ones? Mathematical, spatial, musical, right,
Speaker 3: athletic intelligence, which is the brain communicating with the muscles.
Speaker 2: It's absolutely a form of intelligence. Is there one that's
Speaker 2: just common sense? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Such an interesting question. I'm going to kick it off
Speaker 3: the various attempts with our good, good old friend Paul,
Speaker 3: former colleague Paul Robbins, just one of the best people
Speaker 3: we've worked with, and he's quoting from the book Being Logical,
Speaker 3: A Guide to Good Thinking by d Q Mcinernie, which
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I'm going to dig into.
Speaker 2: Common sense.
Speaker 3: Is that homey, everyday type of reasoning which is born
Speaker 3: out of an alert awareness of and respect for the obvious.
Speaker 3: It is characterized by the unfailing capacity consistently to distinguish
Speaker 3: between a cat and a kangaroo. I don't know that
Speaker 3: last part, but anyway, thank you for that.
Speaker 2: Grasping the obvious, because the reason we got into this
Speaker 2: conversation was talking about how can these socialists believe these things?
Speaker 2: That whatever that first phrase was, you'd think looking around you,
Speaker 2: you'd recognize this doesn't make any sense, right, this is
Speaker 2: this could never work? Yeah, right, right?
Speaker 3: And which you know, I'm going to end with mine,
Speaker 3: which is only ten words long. I think I kind
Speaker 3: of correctly. My mathematical intelligence is unimpressive. Let's see how
Speaker 3: about Ron, He says, Guys, I'll give this a shot.
Speaker 3: Common sense the understanding of basic truisms. That's not exactly
Speaker 3: what a truism is. But then he says, next question
Speaker 3: would be why if some people seem to lack common sense?
Speaker 3: I think that's due to either a people who see
Speaker 3: the world as they wish it to be rather than
Speaker 3: what is, and or ideology, social pressure, etc. Is at
Speaker 3: odds and supersedes the basic truism. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 3: pretty You're definitely you know, Ron, what is? Sometimes you
Speaker 3: can define something by defining the lack of it more accurately.
Speaker 3: So nice nice job there, Baljeet says, definition told me
Speaker 3: when I was a kid. Common sense or ideas that
Speaker 3: are so obviously true that they are commonly held by
Speaker 3: a majority of people, or at least should be interesting.
Speaker 2: There is something going on there with the you cloud
Speaker 2: so human beings. We take in all kinds of information
Speaker 2: through our eyes and ears and reading everything like that,
Speaker 2: and you cloud reality with a theory either that you
Speaker 2: came up with on your own or somebody put in
Speaker 2: your head. Right, that might be it. And I've talked
Speaker 2: for years about how I've known so many successful businessmen
Speaker 2: that like, don't pay attention to the news, they don't
Speaker 2: read books, They just like observe the world. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: they're not clouded by all these different things. They're just
Speaker 2: as what do I got to do to make this
Speaker 2: business make money? People would like this, people would hate that.
Speaker 3: And I wonder if it's some of that, you know,
Speaker 3: the lack of common sense I might describe as trying
Speaker 3: to put a framework on the world that doesn't fit.
Speaker 3: That's what these you know, That's why Soel has said,
Speaker 3: and I've quted him so many times, there's some ideas
Speaker 3: so ridiculous only an intellectual could have them. I think
Speaker 3: that's it. They are so determined not only to put
Speaker 3: a framework on the world, but like an original one
Speaker 3: that makes them seem really really smart, and they're so
Speaker 3: ego driven it blinds them to common sense and a
Speaker 3: few more. Yeah, let's see. Ana Luisa writes the ability
Speaker 3: to deal with situations and people in a practical, clear
Speaker 3: headed way apart from emotion, sentiment, and social pressure. That's
Speaker 3: really good. And that's really similar to mine too, and
Speaker 3: hold that one. Uh, let's see. Corey says the reason
Speaker 3: common sense is the reasoning capacity to survive in a
Speaker 3: world with no warning labels. That's that's funny, that's you
Speaker 3: know what. That's even better than I thought it was.
Speaker 3: I don't need a label to tell me if I
Speaker 3: fall off the ladder, I'm gonna break my head.
Speaker 2: Common sense tells me that. Wow.
Speaker 3: Nice point, Cory, don't drink this cleaning supply. How about dawn?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: Common sense equals if plus then maybe common sense is
Speaker 3: just the ability to see if then not just if.
Speaker 3: Like the developmental stages of realizing actions have consequences, the
Speaker 3: lure of the socialist communist might be dan yet another
Speaker 3: shiny if. Every time someone brings up than this, it's
Speaker 3: an interesting thought.
Speaker 2: A couple more. That's kind of tough.
Speaker 3: To follow, Yeah, Mary and Idaho. Common sense is basic
Speaker 3: practical wisdom. It has learned from general generational truism, sayings
Speaker 3: and warnings. It's protect protective advice, learn from bad experiences.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Then finally this from Brian, common sense is different for everyone.
Speaker 3: It's based on personal experience and what you've learned from
Speaker 3: people with more experience than you, So listen to people
Speaker 3: with more experience than you. That's just common sense, all right.
Speaker 3: I think Anna Luisis was probably my favorite. Here's the
Speaker 3: one I cooked up. Common sense is clear perception combined
Speaker 3: with a solid understanding of human behavior, clear perception of
Speaker 3: the point of not being blinded by ideology or your
Speaker 3: hopes wishes.
Speaker 2: And the human behavior part.
Speaker 3: Is if somebody comes on way too friendly, way too aggressively,
Speaker 3: common sense tells you they want something, watch out. So
Speaker 3: emotional intelligence, clear perception plus emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2: That's common sense with a twist of lemon. What I
Speaker 2: like the uh whoever had in there? Something about like
Speaker 2: knowledge or information, experience and social pressure because social pressure
Speaker 2: is the thing too. Clearly, some people are susceptible to
Speaker 2: social pressure. Sending them against all of their experience, Right,
Speaker 2: you've never had the experience of I mean, it probably
Speaker 2: had never occurred to you in your life, the idea
Speaker 2: that boys should participate in girls' sports. Just to use
Speaker 2: that one again, but the social pressure just overrode all
Speaker 2: of the common sense, other and sense stuff. Wow. Wow.
Speaker 3: So and that social fear is fear, a fear of
Speaker 3: not being accepted. So fear blinds common sense at times,
Speaker 3: as does hope or or wishful thinking.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Well, I hope that was even slightly helpful to anybody.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of surprised this isn't a more common conversation.
Speaker 2: Seems to be pretty important.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree, I would agree. I think, you know,
Speaker 3: it's one of those we know when we see it
Speaker 3: things common sense.
Speaker 2: But can you have too much common sense and not
Speaker 2: enough no book smarts?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't think so either.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, I don't think common sense blinds ideology
Speaker 3: blind's common sense?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it only goes one direction.
Speaker 3: No, In fact, I think it's common sense to learn
Speaker 3: as much as you can and filter it through. Well,
Speaker 3: that theory makes sense to me. That is crap. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: People I have grown up with and better around my
Speaker 2: whole life have more common sense than other people. Why
Speaker 2: do you suppose that it's because it's necessary to survive?
Speaker 2: I think so, or having just much crap thrown at
Speaker 2: them that clouds your common sense, because that might be
Speaker 2: what happened to a certain extent. Going to college. Clouds
Speaker 2: people's common sense. I think it can.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you can lose it in enthusiasm for new ideas.
Speaker 3: I'm I'm trying to process.
Speaker 2: Where does uh?
Speaker 3: Some working class guys who I was very fond of,
Speaker 3: really enjoyed talking to them, who were absolute falling for
Speaker 3: the Candice Owen's grift.
Speaker 2: A good point.
Speaker 3: Good points because that is a grifter appealing to their
Speaker 3: perception of their own common sense but twisting it for
Speaker 3: her profit, saying come on, this doesn't connect. I mean
Speaker 3: there's something going on here. No, you can't fool me,
Speaker 3: saying hey, if you have common sense, you'll agree with me,
Speaker 3: and as people who pride themselves on their common sense,
Speaker 3: they get yanked along by that. So I don't know
Speaker 3: where that falls into our rubric or X and Y
Speaker 3: axis or cloud of word cloud or whatever the hell
Speaker 3: we're doing here.
Speaker 1: But Jack Armstrong and Joe Gaddy.
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Speaker 2: running in Wisconsin, Francesca A. Hong, who's just a what
Speaker 2: is she just? A congress person there currently the front
Speaker 2: in the Democratic primary for governor Wisconsin. Bah blah blah
Speaker 2: blah bah. Anyway, she's a member of the Democratic Socialist
Speaker 2: of America also, and as we talked about the last
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, and you know, their platform includes lots
Speaker 2: of crazy crap like closing prisons and abolishing the Constitution
Speaker 2: and all kinds of different stuff. Anyway, she's been asked
Speaker 2: about a number of things. She is not a smart,
Speaker 2: formidable person, but she still might get the nomination. Here
Speaker 2: she is on CNN and they got on this topic somehow.
Speaker 2: You said Americans should cancel Thanksgiving. Should have done this
Speaker 2: in sixteen twenty one, do you still believe that Thanksgiving
Speaker 2: should be canceled.
Speaker 8: I'm a chef and one of the first meals that
Speaker 8: I made that was for the community when I was
Speaker 8: sixteen was a Thanksgiving meal. Now, I always think my
Speaker 8: hospitality background and owning a restaurant for steff in eight years,
Speaker 8: that bringing folks around the table to share conversation and
Speaker 8: build community is always a good thing, Okay, But Thanksgiving
Speaker 8: is also a time that's incredibly painful for many people
Speaker 8: in our communities, and.
Speaker 2: So I wanted to make sure it is at all.
Speaker 8: Understood that there are multiple views, but views can evolve,
Speaker 8: and the position that I'm running for right now, and
Speaker 8: I think my background as a chef will actually help
Speaker 8: me become a better governor that's able to bring more
Speaker 8: people to.
Speaker 2: The table, literally the Thanksgiving table. So that is being
Speaker 2: highlighted by lots of Republicans because it's just it's kind
Speaker 2: of funny that you wouldn't, well, she's obviously a dope.
Speaker 2: Anybody who who was a serious politician would find a
Speaker 2: way to pivot out of that stupid controversy very quickly.
Speaker 2: Get to something anybody cares about, is what is abolishing
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving as an issue in this country ninety eight too.
Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell? And again it does not
Speaker 2: exactly rise to the top one thousand issues on any
Speaker 2: gallup poll of what people are caring about.
Speaker 3: The colonialism that's why she oppressed. The opposes it ice
Speaker 3: colonial is.
Speaker 2: How about the next one in order, Michael, with tipping
Speaker 2: being racist? I haven't heard this one.
Speaker 7: In the service industry. We are finally having this conversation about,
Speaker 7: you know, how our industry really did come from it
Speaker 7: and kind of is rooted in white supremacy. That tipping
Speaker 7: in itself. If we look at the history of tipping
Speaker 7: and how racist it is and how it has kept
Speaker 7: wages low for black people for very long time. And
Speaker 7: if you look at tipping now, how different the scales
Speaker 7: are in terms of who receives higher percentage of the tips
Speaker 7: over other folks.
Speaker 2: Wow, she's one of those people. Okay, So somebody bringing
Speaker 2: you food to your table at a restaurant is all
Speaker 2: from white supremacy, and we got to do something about
Speaker 2: the tipping situation.
Speaker 3: In a post a few years ago, she said, I
Speaker 3: ate two bites of my kids cheeseburger at culvers in
Speaker 3: Black River Falls and told him they ran out of
Speaker 3: ice cream. But mostly I just wanted to leave because
Speaker 3: I was on the verge of an anxiety attack. Too
Speaker 3: many the old white people who didn't think we spoke English,
Speaker 3: Oh my god, English something something. She is a absolutely
Speaker 3: poster child for grievance study, miseducated, obsessed with colonialism, soft head.
Speaker 2: Right, she is not vernable. But you know, these people
Speaker 2: got the wind at their back because there's such a
Speaker 2: stiff breeze blowing towards socialism, which a lot of young
Speaker 2: people think is the same as socializing. So that's why.
Speaker 2: Or they bought a great lie of communism. Right. But
Speaker 2: one of my favorite thinkers wrote, ironically, there's a very
Speaker 2: real possibility that Francesta Hang is such an electoral disaster
Speaker 2: for Democrats that she sets Dems back a few years,
Speaker 2: but also sets the DSA back decades and devastates the
Speaker 2: reputation of zelots like Hassan Piker. That could happen. Oh wow,
Speaker 2: this could get This could be really good news for
Speaker 2: people who hate socialism for getting a bigger stage and
Speaker 2: then just getting trounced in the election. Yeah, this is
Speaker 2: a ongoing conundrum. It seems like in politics do you
Speaker 2: fight to stop dangerous and or dopes from getting into office,
Speaker 2: or do you hope that they win nominations so they
Speaker 2: can discredit that ideology. I guess that's an ongoing thing.
Speaker 3: I think if you are an American citizen who loves
Speaker 3: this country, you fight stupid ideology every time you hear it.
Speaker 2: I think that's a good idea too. I don't like
Speaker 2: the I haven't heard of this go around, but least
Speaker 2: few election cycles we've heard both sides do this, where
Speaker 2: you spend money on a bad candidate or an evil
Speaker 2: candidate to try to get them the nomination. And I
Speaker 2: don't like that. That is playing too close with the
Speaker 2: playing with matches.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, and you're allowing the weed of their awful
Speaker 3: ideas to grow and flourish. And as we've seen lately,
Speaker 3: and I've been thinking about this a lot, the effect
Speaker 3: of really bad ideas on young people, and how we
Speaker 3: as a people have assumed, because we've been so successful
Speaker 3: and so comfortable, that the idea of radical political movements
Speaker 3: has always been kind of just funny to us or pathetic.
Speaker 2: It's like, you know.
Speaker 3: Upstart football leagues, you know what's going to happen. You know,
Speaker 3: you think, wow, they're going to try that again, and
Speaker 3: sure enough, two years later they declare bankruptcy and we're
Speaker 3: all watching the NFL.
Speaker 2: Right, poor idea reality shows, right exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we have that idea about radical political movements too,
Speaker 3: but if you study it around the globe and through history,
Speaker 3: you know that often they succeed and either take power,
Speaker 3: millions of people die. And we are much much closer
Speaker 3: now to this radical political movement getting the stage where
Speaker 3: people die or certainly fortunes are lost and people are
Speaker 3: oppressed and screwed bad. And so yeah, I don't like
Speaker 3: the idea of let's put some fertilizer on these weeds,
Speaker 3: because when the time comes, we'll just mow them down.
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