1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Hi, This is Kyle Forber and welcome to the Philly Show. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: Ruben Amarrow Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd so lucky. 3 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: It's the Philly Show. 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: We are coming to you on Wednesday from Clearwater released. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:24,079 Speaker 1: I'm coming to you from clear Water, Jimmy Rubin. We 6 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: might be seeing you guys soon. 7 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Very excited as a scientologists today. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I decide recording this on a Wednesday. Is that 9 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 3: what we're doing? 10 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: Is that we're doing? Is it Wednesday? 11 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 4: Wednesday? I'll be there on Thursday, so I'll be there 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 4: by the time this go airs. I'll be on a plane. 13 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: You'll be on a plane. 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: So the Phillies have their first grape Fruit League game 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: on Saturday. It is in Dunedin against the Blue Jays, 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: and they play their Great Fruit League home opener on 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Sunday against the Pirate here at Bake Care Ballpark. Bryce 18 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Wilson is going to be starting on Saturday for the Phillies. 19 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: The Phillies are going to go with a bullpen game 20 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: on Sunday and then they head out east to the 21 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: East coast of Florida for a couple of games. Alan 22 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: ron Hell will be starting on Monday night. 23 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:18,839 Speaker 2: And then TBD for Tuesday. 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: But as the games approach, guys right around the corner, 25 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: I am wondering what you guys are maybe excited to see, 26 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: nervous about whatever, Like, as games get going, what are 27 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 1: you looking forward to? 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a lot I'm excited to see. But you 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 5: know I might give you an answer that revolves around 30 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 5: my biggest concern about the team, and that's the starting 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 5: pitching because it lacks depth. We got some really good 32 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: names in there, obviously, Christopher Sanchez is running up for 33 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 5: the cy young his lozarda. 34 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 6: And explosive lefty. 35 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 5: In his free agent year, and that usually brings a 36 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 5: lot of excitement out of guys. But you know, there's 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 5: no Zach Wheeler to start. I would suspect, you know, 38 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,920 Speaker 5: early May on him, so we might not see him 39 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 5: in games down clear Water. But like I said, the 40 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 5: lack of depth in that starting rotation concerns me. You know, 41 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 5: knocking on wood that you know you don't want any injuries, 42 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 5: but if there's an injury, their depth is going to 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 5: be severely tested and it could be really difficult for 44 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:42,679 Speaker 5: this team to avoid absorb a loss. And health is 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 5: always them one thing you look for in spring training 46 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 5: and any time. But for me a big concern as 47 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,520 Speaker 5: Aaron Nola didn't look good last year, spent three months 48 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 5: on the I l I want to see how he 49 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 5: comes back. You mentioned the other day he has been 50 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 5: doing more long tossing, had a different kind of winter. 51 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 5: I was going to pitch a little bit in the WBC. 52 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 5: I think you'll probably get on the mountain before that. 53 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 5: I just want to see the life on his pitches. 54 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 5: I mean, ordinarily I don't put a ton of stock 55 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 5: into into spring training results for pitchers. 56 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 6: I mean there were guys over the years. 57 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 5: I mean Kevin Millwood always had you know, kind of shaky, 58 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 5: lackluster springs, and he seemed to bounce back. I remember 59 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 5: talking to Burt Blilb and the Hall of Famer about 60 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 5: spring training performances for pitchers, and he didn't put a 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 5: lot of stock in them, because the guy's you know, 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 5: working on stuff, try and stuff, experiment and building arm strength. 63 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 5: But I want to see what Aaronola looks like, just 64 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 5: because he's very, very important, and I think it's really 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 5: important to the ball club and to him personally, with 66 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 5: five years left on his deal, that he bounces back 67 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 5: this year. I think we can get a little barometer 68 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 5: on all of it here in spring training, just because 69 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 5: he needs to be more game ready than other guys. 70 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 6: Because you know he's going to pitch in that WBC. 71 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 3: And this is the problem with going second, is that 72 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: you take some of the way you take up just 73 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 3: way from my thunder their pal. 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 6: But but you can you can, you can do it 75 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 6: better than that particular. 76 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: Aaron ol in particular is somebody that I'm gonna be eyeballing, obviously, 77 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 3: because he does create a deeper rotation if he's strong, 78 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 3: and he can pitch more like. 79 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 4: A three or four rather than a five or six. 80 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 4: So that's one. 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 3: But I think the the other things that I and 82 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 3: this is probably for later on, the iterations of the 83 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,039 Speaker 3: lineup are things that are of great interest to me 84 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 3: because who is going to protect Bryce Harper. 85 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 4: Is there a chance that he hit hits lead off? 86 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: Probably not. Is there a bigger chance for him to 87 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 3: be hitting in front of Kyle Schwarber, Probably who's going 88 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 3: to be hitting in the four hole? 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 4: Because you know what's going to happen deeper in the lineup. 90 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: You know you're gonna end up having. 91 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: Your JTS stats Marshes and Crawford's of the world and 92 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: the bat part of that lineup. 93 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 4: I'm interested in that. 94 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: I'm also interested to see how, after being touted so 95 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: highly by the rest of the staff, how Otto Kemp 96 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: looks health wise, and whether or not he can really 97 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 3: lock down that right handed bat for left field to 98 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 3: support Brandon marsh in left field. Can he be that guy, 99 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 3: because you know that's a thing. I mean, you don't 100 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,600 Speaker 3: want to have outs out there when you're platuning guys. 101 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 4: You want to guys who are going to be productive. 102 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 3: And is he going to be healthy and is he 103 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: going to be productive? And then lastly, Adulas Garcia He's 104 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 3: a big one for me. What does he bring to 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: the table, What kind of energy does they have? How 106 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: good is that arm? How good is he in the outfield? 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 3: And can he provide with a little bit more consistency 108 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 3: of the offense that they need in the deeper part 109 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 3: of the lineup, and perhaps in the four hole if 110 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: he really swings to bout well, is he is he 111 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: going to be an option to hole for Rob Thompson, 112 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 3: which would set things up much better. I think by 113 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 3: signing a guy. 114 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: Like bom into the sixth hole. Think about how good 115 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 4: this lineup can be. 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 3: If a dullest Garcia can be the four hole guy 117 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 3: and marsh can be five, and then you have Bom at. 118 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 7: Six where he belongs, that'd be That's probably where this 119 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 7: team can be super productive, particularly at the bottom of 120 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 7: the lineup, because then you go Stott and probably JT 121 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 7: in the eight hole, although I don't know if Rob 122 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 7: Thompson wants to do that, but that seems like the 123 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:42,799 Speaker 7: right thing to do in front of Crawford. 124 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: In the ninth hole. So we'll see how it goes. 125 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: But the lineup iterations and the four hoole guy are 126 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: pretty important ones. 127 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ruben, it's funny. 128 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking Garcia as well, you know, but 129 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, I kind of wonder, like, what, what, how 130 00:06:56,160 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: can you tell that he is maybe has the potential 131 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: to be that guy this spring because we were just 132 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: talking right show or two ago about you know, Aaron 133 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: Rohan's spring a few years ago, how he would look 134 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: like he couldn't hit water falling out of a boat, 135 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: and he he had like an all star year and 136 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 1: played it into a five year I think it was 137 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: a sixty million dollar contract with the giants. 138 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: Oh man, was he bad that spring? 139 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: But I think right with Garcia, you want to see 140 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: him show a little bit of patience at the plate. 141 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: You don't want him seem chasing and everything, which is 142 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: kind of what he's he's been doing the last couple 143 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: of years. 144 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,119 Speaker 2: Because I agree with you, I would like to see 145 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 2: if if. 146 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: He can bounce back and be he doesn't even have 147 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: to get to twenty twenty three level, but if he 148 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: can just bounce back a little bit and be a 149 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: little bit more productive than Nick Castianos hit twenty five 150 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: home runs eighty RBIs and be that cleanup hitter lengthen 151 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: that lineup, to me, that would be huge. So I 152 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: am curious to see what he looks like this spring. 153 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. He came into camp in great shape. 154 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 1: I think we might have talked about that the other 155 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: day as well. The guy is absolutely jacks, if you know. 156 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 3: I have to say, we've had these conversations about Max 157 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 3: Kepler last year almost exactly. These are the same exact 158 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: conversations we had about Max Kepler. 159 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: And you'd like to see Dave Dombrowski and that front. 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,559 Speaker 3: Office hit on one of these suckers because that will really 161 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 3: make it a huge difference. Hasn't worked out over the 162 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,239 Speaker 3: last couple of years with those you know, those nine 163 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 3: ten million dollars signings, the Keplers of the world, the 164 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 3: Merritfields of the world. Hasn't really worked out for them, 165 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 3: and you sort of hope that this one does. 166 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 5: If Boem could slide to six, the view on him 167 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 5: as an offensive player would be totally different, because that's 168 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 5: really where he belongs in an ideal line up. I mean, 169 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 5: they have to hit him there because he's a contact 170 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 5: guy and they just don't have another four guy. But 171 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 5: if Adolas Garcia could be that guy, it would be 172 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 5: so good, you know, for this team. I want to 173 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: ask you a question at Rubin, you know, as former GM, 174 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 5: given the way this winter has gone and the narrative 175 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:17,320 Speaker 5: out there with Harper, you know about protection behind Harper, 176 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 5: him talking about it, his agent talking about it, would 177 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,479 Speaker 5: you feel a lot of pressure to get Kyle Schwarber 178 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 5: there no if ans or butts behind him, whether it's 179 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 5: you know, three or four wherever. Would you feel pressure 180 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 5: to put Kyle Schwarber in that spot to the point 181 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 5: where I think it's not even a thought. I think 182 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 5: he's going to be behind Harper automatically. 183 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 184 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:46,719 Speaker 3: I think you always want to do what you think 185 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 3: is going to be best for the team. And if 186 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 3: you feel like having you know, Harper be protected by 187 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: Schwarber and you don't feel comfortable enough with the Adulas, 188 00:09:55,960 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: Garcias and you know, the the alec Bomes of the 189 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: world protecting him, then I think you gotta do it. 190 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 4: I think you're right, Jim. I think it's something that then. 191 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 3: There's really no excuse. You're you're putting a potential MVP 192 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: player behind a potential MVP player, and then that then 193 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 3: then it's going to have to be like, hey, dude, 194 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 3: it's it's production time, it's you know, and having the 195 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: back to back left handers, I don't have a big 196 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 3: deal with that. 197 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 4: Necessarily. 198 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 3: We had Utly and Howard there for quite some time 199 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 3: going through four and so I mean, these guys are 200 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 3: talent enough to be able to handle it, and Schwarber 201 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: crushed handers, and it's just a matter of you know, 202 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 3: it's a matter of then producing. 203 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 4: And I don't disagree with you, Jim. 204 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: I think at the end of the day, Schwarber is 205 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 3: going to be protecting Harper. 206 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: As as as opposed to the other way around. 207 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 3: And uh, and I think that's that I would think 208 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,119 Speaker 3: that that's what Rob Thompson would. 209 00:10:57,840 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: Like to do. 210 00:10:58,760 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 211 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: Uh, if you're watching us on YouTube, don't forget to 212 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: hit the subscribe button as we inch our way towards 213 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: fifteen thousand subscribers. 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I want to talk more about the three 255 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: prospects that are in camp justin Crawford, Aiden Miller, Andrew 256 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: painter and kind of what we want to see from 257 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: them this spring as well. You know, I had a 258 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: nice chat the other day with Aiden Miller. Really, all 259 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: three guys, I mean all three guys, I think if 260 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: they live up to their potential, I think Phillies fans 261 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: are really gonna like them. 262 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: Because they're all very personable. They're all very likable, they're 263 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 2: all very down to earth. 264 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: Even a guy like Justin Crawford, whose dad Carl, was 265 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: in the big leagues forever, you know, just you know, 266 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: just really good conversations with these young guys talking to right, they. 267 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: Were raised right. So funny you say that, Ruben. 268 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: So I was talking with Bobby Dickerson just today about 269 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 1: this because Aiden was. I was talking to him about, 270 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: you know, getting some work at third base this spring, 271 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: and Aidan's like, yeah, it's you know, I played at 272 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 1: their base in high school early in high school, so 273 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: it's really not that big of a deal to me. 274 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: I said, what do you think about working with Bobby 275 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: and Larry Larry Boa. 276 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: He's like, oh, I love working with those guys. 277 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: He's like, he's like, they're really tough, they can they 278 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: can really get on it. But he goes but I 279 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: really like that kind of coaching. I really like knowing 280 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: that they really care. And I said, I said, I 281 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,359 Speaker 1: kind of relayed that to Bobby. He goes, that's not surprising. 282 00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: He's a really good, good case. But I also told him, 283 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: don't be too coachable. Now, don't be too coachable. 284 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 2: You know. 285 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: He's like, the line he gave me was, I feel 286 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: like if the milkman told him how to backhand a baseball, 287 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: he would listen to him, you know, which is a 288 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: great line. 289 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: But it kind of shows something's go in, some things 290 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: go out, something stay right, there's. 291 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: Hurt exactly right. But he said, he said, now I've 292 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: seen that was last year. He's like this year, I've 293 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: seen aiden kind of pause a couple of times, taking 294 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: the information, consider it a little bit. 295 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: So he's like he sees them growing in that direction. 296 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: But just a really good kid that's you know, learning 297 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: third base because he might be the third baseman h 298 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: next season if Alec Bohlm leaves via free agency, which 299 00:14:58,640 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: I think most people expect. 300 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: Justin Crawford's the same thing. 301 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: I was on the half field the other day, or 302 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: walking into the ballpark, I should say, the other day, 303 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: and I ran into Sean Williams, who is the son 304 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: of the great, late great Jimmy Williams. And Sean out 305 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: there works every day with the bunters, just off the 306 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: side of the half field, which you guys know. And 307 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: I said, we think, are we going to see Crawford 308 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: out here a lot? He goes, Oh yes, oh yes, 309 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: He's like he loves to bunt. He loves to bunt. 310 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: He really thinks it's a weapon. He really wants to 311 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: get better at it. He's been out. 312 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: Here every single day and he really enjoys it. 313 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, you have some guys that, like they told me, 314 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: I got a bunch, so I got to come out 315 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: of here and bunt. 316 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: But apparently Justin really loves the bunt. 317 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: And Matt gel wrote from the Athletic wrote a story 318 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: about it today, about that kind of love and that. 319 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: Understanding of the importance of it. 320 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 4: So lostart. 321 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 3: Man lost art, and they got a great guy teaching him. 322 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,560 Speaker 3: Because Jimmy Williams might have been the best bunning coach 323 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 3: I've ever been around, number one other than my dad maybe, 324 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 3: And I will also say that he's passed it. So 325 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: Jimmy has passed it down to Sean. 326 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: Clearly, and now Seawan is working with the hitters to 327 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: do that. 328 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: But it is a lost art and it's something that. 329 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: You love to see speech work on. 330 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 3: I loved watching Juan Pierre work on his craft for 331 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 3: hours in the cage. There is a technique and there 332 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: is a skill set, and there are hits to be had, 333 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: and that that's part. 334 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 4: Of his game. 335 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,720 Speaker 5: You mentioned two names, Jimmy Williams. You guys will always 336 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 5: the pictures on your team in his era were always 337 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 5: good bunchers because he worked with him. 338 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 6: And Juan Pierre what a great baseball man. 339 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 5: He was smart and his prep and his hard worker, 340 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 5: but his prep and he was such a thinking player. 341 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 5: I always thought he might manage. I think he's still making. 342 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 3: I think he's with the Miami Marlins organization as ANHL. 343 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 5: He's a great baseball man. I enjoyed covering that guy 344 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 5: and picking his brain. Yes, sir, fascinating dude. 345 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 8: Yeah. 346 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,239 Speaker 1: So, I mean both of those guys really kind of 347 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: taking in the instruction, working their butt off, and of 348 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: course they would be working their butt off anyway, but 349 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, really kind of taking to the instruction that 350 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: they've been given, and you know, Andrew Painter, he's been 351 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: throwing well, you know he talked about you know, his 352 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: armslaught has changed change a little bit last season. It's 353 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 1: back to where it was. And Rob Thompson has been 354 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: absolutely raving about his control and command coming back. 355 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: So that's something to watch as the spring develops. 356 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: Specifically, anything from those guys that you want to see 357 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: are hoping to see over the next few weeks while 358 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: they're in camp. 359 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 4: I just want to make this comment. I can't express to. 360 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: You enough the importance of the instruction that they're getting 361 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 3: from these coaches. This is not a knock on the 362 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 3: development people, because they have very good development people there. 363 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 3: But when you have the major league coaching staff, the 364 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 3: Paco Figueroas and the Dickersons and those types of people 365 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 3: around these players. 366 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 4: These are the coaches that have been watching. 367 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 2: Major league baseball. 368 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,239 Speaker 3: They know what it takes to have success at the 369 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 3: major league level for a championship caliber club, and for 370 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 3: them to get the instruction from them during the course 371 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 3: of this time, whether they're in the big leagues or 372 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: whether they're in the minor leagues, those are invaluable pieces 373 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 3: of information that they're going to gain and they're going 374 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 3: to get better just by being there for the next 375 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 3: month and a half and getting that work. So I 376 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: also mentioned Painter because it already seems like he's already 377 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,199 Speaker 3: made an adjustment himself by changing a little bit of 378 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 3: his delivery, and now it seems like he's throwing a 379 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,719 Speaker 3: little bit more consistently in the strike zone, which is 380 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:53,920 Speaker 3: the most important part. 381 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 4: For a really big. 382 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 3: Man, that takes some time for him to develop the 383 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 3: consistency of the delivery so that you can command the 384 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: strike zone. I think all of these things that are 385 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,400 Speaker 3: happening for these guys in the spring training are the 386 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 3: most fascinating parts of whether or not you see this 387 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 3: translate to game now, not just right away necessarily, but 388 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:19,640 Speaker 3: to games somewhere in the next ten to fifteen games 389 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 3: you start seeing these guys play and whether the skill 390 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: set that they're working on continues to improve and makes 391 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 3: their game better. 392 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 5: This is an organization that needs some young legs and 393 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 5: some young excitement to mix into a veteran. 394 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 6: Core, an aging core. 395 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 5: A good organization is always sustaining itself with homegrown talent, 396 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 5: and you know that's tough to do, but it's something 397 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 5: The Phillies need to do. Everybody can't be the Dodgers. 398 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 5: You got a need sign another three hundred million dollar players, 399 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 5: though the Phillies have done some of that. But it's very, 400 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 5: very exciting when young talent is coming in spring training. 401 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 5: People kind of buzz about it. People are eager to 402 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 5: see it. 403 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: You know. 404 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 5: The atmosphere and spring training is very upbeat, you know, 405 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 5: because the regular season hadn't started yet. It's not that 406 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 5: cauldron that you have to, you know, win every night. 407 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 5: You can actually sit back and enjoy watching the kid develop. 408 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 5: So I remember the excitement when a young player like 409 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: Jimmy Rollins arrived. I remember watching Jimmy Rollins over in 410 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 5: winter Haven one day go in the hole, you know, 411 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 5: his first camp, big league camp. 412 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 6: He was going to go to Triple A, but you know, 413 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 6: they sent him on the road trip. 414 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 5: And he went in the hole and he jacked up 415 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 5: off his back foot and got up on top of 416 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 5: the ball, got a little. 417 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 6: More on it, and threw a seed across the diamond. 418 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 5: I was like, oh, my goodness, exciting to see young 419 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 5: Jimmy Rollins, Exciting to see Chase Suttley, exciting to see 420 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 5: Ryan Howard, Exciting that one spring when Dominic Brown all 421 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 5: those home runs, exciting when Cole Hills went over to 422 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 5: the Legends field and sat down all those guys. So 423 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: we're seeing three guys that could be main stays in 424 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 5: this lineup that need to be main stays really at 425 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 5: their formative years and their first real serious spring training 426 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,239 Speaker 5: uh in a in a year when two of them 427 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 5: are probably are going to contribute right out of the 428 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 5: gate and another one maybe not too far down the road. 429 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 5: I think he needs a little more time Aden Miller though, 430 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 5: But that in itself is exciting for baseball fans, and 431 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 5: we are baseball fans. We're gonna enjoy watching it. And 432 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 5: you know, it's just another added element to, you know, 433 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 5: to spring training this year. And they're important guys. You know, 434 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna go overboard if they play extremely well. 435 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 5: I'm not gonna go overboard if they if they don't 436 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 5: play extremely well, because the talent is there on all 437 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 5: three guys need to They need to go out there 438 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 5: and feel like they belong and just let it happen. 439 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: Right Yeah there. 440 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: If Justin Crost's hitting one oh five after the first week, 441 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,879 Speaker 1: everybody relax, just like if he's hitting four oh five, 442 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: don't start saying you got to making the leadoff hitter right. 443 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 3: Situation comes later on in spring, particularly for the pitchers, 444 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 3: but I mean for the hitters also. They're starting to 445 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 3: see the guys with their good stuff. Later on to 446 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: the last maybe ten twelve days of spring is when 447 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 3: you really bear down on evaluating their ability to get 448 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: results right now. 449 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 4: It's a process. 450 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 3: You start worrying about some of the results a little 451 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 3: bit later on in the spring, and uh, you know, 452 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: if he's hitting the ball hard somewhere, or they're you know, 453 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 3: he's stealing bases, well, it's getting good jumps on. 454 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 4: The ball in the outfield. 455 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 3: All those things are the things that you really want 456 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 3: to evaluate. 457 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: So on Wednesday, guys, the players, the hitters got measured 458 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: for the ABS Challenge. 459 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 2: System this year, which will be in place. 460 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 1: So guys were coming in going, I thought I was 461 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:09,320 Speaker 1: six three, I'm six two apparently, or I thought I 462 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: was six' five and Apparently i'm six one or whatever it. 463 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 2: Is, right they were kind of like talking talking about. 464 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: That but it's gonna be kind of interesting to see 465 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: the strategies that are involved with THE abs. System you, 466 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: know do you challenge with two outs and nobody on 467 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: in the third, INNING i WOULD i would think, not you, 468 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: know two outs and a run around second and, THIRD 469 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: i would think. YES i did Ask Trey turner the 470 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: other day when he was talking about, IT i, said 471 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: how how how often are you? Right you, know how 472 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,639 Speaker 1: often on a called third strike or you, know a 473 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 1: three to one pitch that's do you think is a 474 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: ball that's called a? Strike how often are you do 475 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: you go back to the dugout and go, YEP i knew? 476 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: It versus how much do you how many times you 477 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: go back on the dugout and go? 478 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 2: CRAP i shouldn't have said. 479 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: Anything in the umpire because he was right and he 480 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: said he's he said with, him at least he's very 481 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: good on the inner half of the plate and the 482 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: outer half of the. Plate he says he has some 483 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: difficulty with the like the knee high pitches or maybe 484 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: at the, top top half or top part of the. 485 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: Zone so he knows going forward this, year if it's 486 00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: a borderline pitch and it's on the inner half of 487 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: the plate of the outer half of the plate and 488 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: he wants to challenge, it he'll feel pretty good about. 489 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 2: That whereas the pitch at the bottom of the, zone 490 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: at the top of the. 491 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: Zone he might have to think a little bit harder 492 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: about that before he makes that, challenge because you only 493 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: get two. Challenges so it's gonna be kind of interesting 494 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: to see how they do it in the. Spring Rob 495 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 1: thompson said the other, day he, said the first ten, 496 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: days there's. 497 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 6: Gonna be no. 498 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: Rules if you want to challenge on the first, inning 499 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: challenge on the first, ning you, know if you you, 500 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: know if it's a you know it's a two zero 501 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 1: pitch and you want to challenge a challenger that he doesn't. 502 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: Care but later in the spring they're going to start 503 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: maybe putting some rules in place on some of the 504 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,120 Speaker 1: philosophies that they might. 505 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: Have So i'll be interesting to. 506 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 6: WATCH i wonder. 507 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 5: LIKE i wouldn't EVEN i would tell my, pictures don't 508 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 5: worry about. It let the catch or handle, it because he's. 509 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 6: Got the best. 510 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:20,280 Speaker 5: Few you worry about executing the. Pitches you, know you 511 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 5: don't need that on your. Plate i've thought about. 512 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 3: THAT i wonder If Rob thom's gonna implement some hard 513 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 3: and fast rules like the, pictures you can't challenge, right 514 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 3: you're not challenging AT jt Or marshawn Or stubbs be 515 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 3: the guys challenging and whether it's they're gonna, wait what 516 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,639 Speaker 3: situation if there's nobody on and there's nobody, out if 517 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:44,640 Speaker 3: there's nobody on two, outs. 518 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 4: Should they just hold that challenge the chances of scoring 519 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 4: a run at that? 520 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 2: Point who. 521 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 3: KNOWS i am really interested to see how they will 522 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 3: manage when and who can check? 523 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 5: Right you could hold it like Like Billy martin held 524 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 5: his challenge Of George brett's pine tar bet until he 525 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 5: really needed it exactly. 526 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 1: RIGHT i joked with A phillies person a couple of years, 527 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: ago as this was kind of coming into, PLAY i, said, 528 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: well you, know if A dubal was still in the, 529 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: team Will Dubal? HERRARA i, said you have to give 530 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: him a hard and fast red light never challenge because 531 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: he's the type of guy that would go first pitch 532 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: in the, game, challenge lose, it second pitch of the game, 533 00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: challenge lose. It challenges are done the rest of the 534 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: game you're, Out so you, know you wonder if it's 535 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: gonna be like, Listen Harper, schwarberg these guys have the 536 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: green lights you, know maybe a Justin, crawford you, know 537 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,919 Speaker 1: at the guys at the bottom line of don't unless 538 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: it's later in the, game and it's a real key 539 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: spot in the. 540 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 2: Game so, yeah it's gonna it's gonna change a. 541 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 1: LOT i think it's gonna change some things in terms 542 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: of how a team kind of strategizes and goes about. 543 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 5: It you know what's going to be great is when 544 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 5: a game ends on a challenge in the, UMPIRE i mean, 545 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 5: us and the umpire has changed his call and goes. 546 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 2: Strict it's gonna. Happen it will. 547 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: Happen also In beginnings And ray they had a challenge last, 548 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 3: year they may have gone to The World. 549 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 1: Series, yep you know. What AND i AND i let 550 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: me get your guys opinion on. This, LIKE i believe in. 551 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: THAT i love the human element of the. GAME i 552 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 1: love the human element of. 553 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: GAME i. Do BUT i also don't. 554 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: Want to see a team loser win A World series 555 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 1: or win or lose a playoff game because an umpire 556 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: missed a. 557 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 2: Call SO i like, IT i like it happened. 558 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 6: Before totally agree with. 559 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: That, yeah, absolutely, so, GUYS i cannot wait to see 560 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: you down. 561 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 2: Here i'm very much looking forward to. 562 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 4: It we can't wait to be. 563 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 2: Seen, yes the weather is. Nice it is in the 564 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: mid seventies right. Now seventies and. Sunny let's just. 565 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 6: Uh look a little. 566 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 4: GLISTENING i enjoy. 567 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:03,479 Speaker 5: That just before ill on this, PODCAST i lit my, woodstove. 568 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 3: You KNOW i. 569 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,399 Speaker 4: Did it's a little damp and bluster. 570 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 6: Here you uh, yeah it's it's it's it's. 571 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: Raw isn't it's it's. Depressing so it's it's great down 572 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 1: here in Clear. Water LIKE i, Said phillies open up 573 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: Their Grapefruit league season On saturday on the road just 574 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: down the road In. Tunedin sunday afternoon home Opener Grape 575 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:31,880 Speaker 1: Route league against The Pittsburgh. 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