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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio, Man, I.

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Speaker 2: Better make the Central special, right, Okay, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 2: everybody's searching for a hero.

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Speaker 3: People need someone to look up Tom.

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Speaker 2: No, actually to be Frank, our guest is a true hero.

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Speaker 2: There's literally no human being on earth who has not

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Speaker 2: heard of our guest. Like, seriously, you don't even need

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Speaker 2: to hear my voice anymore. But just for for now,

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Speaker 2: these success we can go hip Hop Legend, the first

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Speaker 2: hip Hop Grammy winner, Sticom Legend, or one of the

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Speaker 2: most beloved important family shows in TV history.

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Speaker 4: A Golden Globe winner.

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Speaker 5: Yes, oh yeah, that's new. We're new.

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Speaker 3: We're now skipping. You didn't think that that was online

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Speaker 3: now I'm playing.

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Speaker 2: No, But seriously, like, let's let's not take it lightly

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Speaker 2: that he has been a premier action hero, one of

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Speaker 2: the most highest paid actors. I believe seventeen of his

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Speaker 2: films that grows past at least combined eight billion dollars,

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Speaker 2: which is nothing to scoff that. You know, when I

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Speaker 2: say this man has his own money, I mean he

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Speaker 2: has his own money. No, seriously, I swear to God,

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Speaker 2: I'll put it this way.

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Speaker 3: Steve, you remember my infamous rat story, the.

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Speaker 5: One I heard a thousand times.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I can remember it.

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Speaker 2: Right, So before before you came in the picture, I

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Speaker 2: will say, even his foot even the footnotes of his

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Speaker 2: life become other people's highlights. And I mean he invited

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Speaker 2: me to the Millennial back in nineteen ninety nine, December

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Speaker 2: thirty first.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he doesn't remember about that, Yes, right, exactly.

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Speaker 5: Inaugurations.

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Speaker 2: Do you know how many times I've told the story

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Speaker 2: of Mary Tyler Moore running over Liz Taylor's Wilcha or

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Speaker 2: my Jordan or my corns.

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Speaker 3: That was my original rat story.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, I can.

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Speaker 2: I can talk and talk, talk, talk about achievements until

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Speaker 2: the counts come home. But literally what hit home for

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Speaker 2: me personally was his really brave, rigorous act of complete

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Speaker 2: honesty and vulnerability, which is a word you don't often hear,

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Speaker 2: especially in the black community. And his book will amongst

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Speaker 2: other things that he's achieved. This intro is now ninety

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Speaker 2: minutes long, and the show's over. Ladies and gentlemen, please.

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Speaker 3: Welcome Bill Smith.

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Speaker 5: Bring. Yes, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you're like, wait, have you set up lights in

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Speaker 2: your apartment?

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Speaker 5: Huh? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Were you set up lights right now here.

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Speaker 5: So here's the thing. Here's the thing.

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Speaker 6: I took this interview seriously right.

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Speaker 7: No, this is the cleanest zoom display I've ever seen

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Speaker 7: in my life.

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Speaker 3: I'm very ashamed right now.

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Speaker 5: I was like, it's my man. You know, he asked

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Speaker 5: me to you know, to come on. It's Philly.

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Speaker 6: It's all of that. It's like I got to make

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Speaker 6: you know, I don't know what he needs, what he

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Speaker 6: wants to use, Like I want to be I want

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Speaker 6: to represent properly.

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Speaker 7: I want to It's just audio, bro, you could have

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Speaker 7: been on the couch anyway.

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Speaker 2: So actually I want to start off and I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go against format and just sort of make this

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Speaker 2: a free round for everyone on the show, all of

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Speaker 2: us here.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Team Supreme. By the way, let's go anyway.

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Speaker 2: So I want to know what did you do this morning?

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Speaker 6: Me or Team Supreme tell you.

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Speaker 3: I'm just curious what your average warning is like nowadays.

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Speaker 6: So I usually I wake up about four am. So

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Speaker 6: so like four to six is my private quiet time,

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Speaker 6: like no phone, no nothing, I think, I meditate, I read.

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Speaker 6: It is like my favorite time of the day that

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Speaker 6: there there's very few days I'm not awake at four

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Speaker 6: AM and four to six is how I get just

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Speaker 6: I'll go back to sleep from six to seven point

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Speaker 2: Start my day. See, I already feel like I'm doing

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Speaker 2: this wrong because no, because Grace told me, like, Grace's

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Speaker 2: I sort of like backtracked on, you know, Yes, we'll

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Speaker 2: and then I went back to my normal ten am routine.

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Speaker 5: Ah.

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Speaker 6: Man, man, you can't underestimate the power of watching the

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Speaker 6: sun rise. There's something that that energizes a human body

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Speaker 5: It like wakes you up with it.

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Speaker 6: It's like you get in sync with with like how

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Speaker 4: How long has that been a practice for you, Probably.

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Speaker 6: About three years it started happening.

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Speaker 5: I'm not a big sleeper. I'm I rarely, if.

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Speaker 6: Ever sleep for you know, five hours straight, really, you know, yeah, rarely, rarely,

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Speaker 6: hours like, but very rarely will I sleep. I never

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Speaker 2: Okay, So can I ask you nowhere? That's where I

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Speaker 2: have excelled in life. Do you feel like you've slept

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Speaker 2: eight hours or more? Do you feel like you wasted

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Speaker 2: know that for you, the idea of hard work, performative

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Speaker 2: hard work is like job one. So letting the idea

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Speaker 2: I've never gotten up at two in the afternoon. I

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Speaker 2: slept for fifteen hours. Yeah, I've never slept for fifteen

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Speaker 5: What the fuck? Yeah? And she let me sleep.

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Speaker 3: For fifteen hours, like for you, is sleeping eight hours?

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Speaker 2: Like that's a wasted I could have saved world in

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Speaker 6: I used to I used to feel like that. It

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Speaker 5: So I prefer like I'll I take naps, right, you know, I'll.

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Speaker 6: The feeling of sleeping all the way through in that way.

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Speaker 6: But every couple of months, I'll definitely get one of

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Speaker 6: But that that four to six practice is a new thing.

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Speaker 6: it's quiet. It's like that's when I do my best thinking.

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Speaker 7: And you're still able to do that while you're taping

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so usually with a movie, if if I have

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Speaker 5: And usually on those.

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Speaker 8: What does a meditation look like to you? Because we

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Speaker 8: talk about meditation a lot on this show.

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Speaker 9: What does it mean to you?

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Speaker 5: The big thing for me with meditation is no pressure.

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Speaker 5: I don't pressure myself to.

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Speaker 6: Do anything but just watch my mind to just be

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Speaker 5: Damn.

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Speaker 6: I hate meditating today, right, and I just I kind

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Speaker 5: I don't wrestle with it. I let it. I let

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Speaker 3: Baby, do you do trans meditation?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't. I don't go that far like I.

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Speaker 6: You know I have you know, you read the book,

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Speaker 6: Which is you know it's a form that you know

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Speaker 6: for me, that's a form of meditation.

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Speaker 9: I didn't read it. Can you just tell me, man, don't.

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Speaker 5: Spoil it, you don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't want you to spoil it.

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Speaker 9: I'm so curious.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna I was gonna tell you, Will I

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Speaker 2: was telling you that I was waiting for this very

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Speaker 3: That does it.

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Speaker 2: And a funny thing happened to them, which is they

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Speaker 3: Like, you know what's happening.

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Speaker 2: This Will Smith book has just come out and suddenly

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Speaker 2: we're in the mid So now I.

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Speaker 8: Gotta ia, peyote, mushrooms, all family.

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Speaker 5: Right, So I ayahuasca is really really different.

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Speaker 6: So you know the the the the scene in Black

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Speaker 6: Panther right where he goes to ancestral plane. Yet ancestral plane, right,

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Speaker 6: So that's the African that's taken from the African version

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: So it is as vivid as they depicted in the movie.

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Speaker 6: You you like, actually go meet, see talk to people,

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Speaker 6: you come back right like that's the movie is not

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Speaker 5: Of what the experience is. Wow. Right.

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Speaker 6: The only the only thing that was was uh potentially

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Speaker 5: The it takes you where it wants to take you.

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Speaker 5: You don't get to like pick.

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Speaker 6: Maybe at higher levels people can pick, right, but yeah,

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Speaker 6: I never got to pick.

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Speaker 5: I got dragged right, So what did to drag you into?

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Speaker 4: Who did you get to talk to? Did you need

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Speaker 4: to talk to any people from your past or whatever?

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Speaker 6: My father came to me, you know, So that's what

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Speaker 6: I was saying. So I had that experience my father.

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Speaker 6: He came to me and showed me where he was living.

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Speaker 2: You know, I will say to you laya that sort

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Speaker 2: of on that path. I think the lightest version of

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Speaker 2: it is, well, there are sound journeys you can take.

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Speaker 2: For some people step up from that is sound journeys

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Speaker 2: with mushrooms.

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Speaker 3: Some people do idahwasta.

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Speaker 2: Mike Tyson talks about doing toad, which is even more yeah, yeah, extreme,

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Speaker 2: But basically it's almost like you should really be open

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Speaker 2: lot of the childhood trauma. First of all, I mean

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Speaker 2: there's literally no human alive, especially black human that has

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Speaker 5: Right? And more people are waking up slowly to that idea.

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Speaker 6: Right, How to be with your circumstances is the answer,

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Speaker 6: So, the the the realization that I that I had

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Speaker 5: Right, So, the answer that I realized is you can't

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Speaker 6: You can not create it. If you're scared, if you're angry,

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Speaker 6: So all of that to say, I knew that if

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Speaker 7: So being so to that point, in terms of being

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Speaker 6: So the only thing I was prepared and still am

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 5: In my life, you know. And it's and it's those

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Speaker 6: You know, the worst crime you can commit against another

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Speaker 7: Right, It's like because you're not you're not showing that

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Speaker 6: You'll be surprised how much your heart is closed to

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Speaker 5: It's not.

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Speaker 6: Behind every word is I really don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 6: And they hear it, right, They hear it no matter

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Speaker 2: All Right, So let me ask you something because I'm

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Speaker 2: if I could just figure out this one thing, I

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Speaker 2: like when you live in fight or flight mode, that

445
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: you can either go with your brain or your heart.

446
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,159
Speaker 2: And I found out it was way safer for me

447
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: to go with my brain. Like I got to be

448
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 2: the smartest guy, I got to be the most achieving guy.

449
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 2: I gotta be the provider, I gotta be, you know,

450
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 2: the hero that everyone And I'm currently in a situation

451
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: now where I'm hitting a brick wall because I'm almost

452
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 2: like the ten man, like I technically don't know the

453
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: first steps in how to open my heart.

454
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:17,639
Speaker 6: So the fundamental premise is flawed. The fundamental premise that

455
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 6: you're safer using your.

456
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 5: Head is wrong. That's not true, right, So.

457
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 6: You can only make an intellectual mess with that fundamental premise.

458
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 5: Right.

459
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 6: So, going all the way back to the beginning, the

460
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 6: belief system that has to grow is that the only

461
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 6: safety is in your well wishing and the authentic care

462
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 6: and concern for whoever's in front of you. You see

463
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 6: a samurai kill somebody and then pray over the body

464
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 6: the samurai, it's not like, you.

465
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 5: Know, fuck him.

466
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 6: You know that motherfucker shouldn't have been tripping, right, It's

467
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 6: like the samurai is prepared to kill. You know that

468
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 6: that's what they do, but they spend half their lives learning,

469
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 6: you know, the techniques have killed for the purpose of

470
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 6: defending people, and then they spend the second half of

471
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 6: their life learning how to not have to. You absolutely

472
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 6: positively want to be able to defend people, and you

473
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 6: want to be able to build, and you want to

474
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 6: be able to create, and you want to do all

475
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 6: of that. If you're doing it with your heart closed,

476
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 6: if you're doing it where you don't give a fuck

477
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 6: about people, it can't go well. And you and you

478
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 6: can have all the money and you can do all

479
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 6: of that.

480
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 7: People are your greatest resource. Yes, it's like why people

481
00:28:58,280 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 7: are your greatest resource.

482
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 6: When people know that you care, right, they give you

483
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 6: so much room to make mistakes and stuff like that,

484
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 6: and your only responsibility is for people to be able

485
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 6: to see in your eyes that you legitimately care, and

486
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 6: you might have to make hard decisions, you know, and

487
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 6: somebody's mind might be so defiled that they can't respond well,

488
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 6: and you got to go samurai, right, But you don't

489
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 6: do it joyfully.

490
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 5: You hate that you had to, you know, cut that off, right,

491
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 5: you know?

492
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: All right, So let me let me ask you a

493
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 2: question because for me, like I put myself in almost

494
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: every situation that you spoke about in the book, but

495
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: there's one particular situation that I felt that you handled

496
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 2: with ease that I otherwise wouldn't have handled. Now only

497
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:02,719
Speaker 2: starting maybe three years years ago, really not even three

498
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 2: years ago, like two years ago, I finally decided to

499
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 2: do something on my own without, you know, the collaborative

500
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: narrative that I do. You know, everything I've done has

501
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 2: been the collaborative with everything. So I'm thinking that if

502
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 2: I'm getting a phone call in Detroit and.

503
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: It's Quincy Jones telling me to come out to.

504
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 2: His birthday party, and you're asked to audition in front

505
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: of all those people at his birthday party, and he

506
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 2: happens to have your current lawyer still with you, now

507
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: I believe like to, you know, draw the papers and

508
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: make this show happen.

509
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 3: I would have instantly.

510
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: Not only thought of millions of reasons to say no,

511
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 2: chances are I'm like, thank you very much, but you know,

512
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: I you know, I have something. I'm going back to

513
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: Detroit to go back to my group and stay with

514
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: my group. And I wouldn't have even gotten the freshman's

515
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: of bel air because I would have instantly, out of obligation,

516
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 2: chosen that first step in my career, which is just

517
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 2: a group. And so how did and you, I don't

518
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 2: know if you just glossed over or whatever, but did

519
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: you realize that that was the first paradigm shift that

520
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: your life is not going to be the same. Like

521
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: once you stepped on that airplane and went back to Detroit,

522
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:40,240
Speaker 2: how do you explain to Jeff and you know, how

523
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: do you explain to these people that you made a

524
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: life changing decision?

525
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, of course is twenty four hours.

526
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 6: Well, we were we were in a really desperate financial situation, right,

527
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 6: so like we we were, you know, we had gone

528
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 6: from Grammy winners back to one hotel room.

529
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 2: By the way, I hate how, I really hate how

530
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 2: you sort of separate yourself from Ann in This Corner, which.

531
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: My favorite record. I'm sorry, that's.

532
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 6: That's crazy, but yeah, that that one, that one hurt bad.

533
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 2: I know, I'm not diving you like I feel like.

534
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: And then she bit me was like, that's one of

535
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: my favorite Halloween songs ever.

536
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 4: But I like and Jeff was on the beat box

537
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 4: I did with that one.

538
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,840
Speaker 5: Anyway, there was one, there was one or two. Unfortunately

539
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 5: the public did not concur.

540
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 2: But it worked out for you because if Quincy and

541
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: Benny don't see that performance of Mike Tyson on our sineo.

542
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 5: That's true. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

543
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: So that album still holds heavy for you because that's

544
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: the moment that changed you know.

545
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I look back at it, I can see

546
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 6: I can see the value. Uh, definitely when I when

547
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 6: I look back.

548
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 5: Uh.

549
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 6: But to the first question about so, for me, I've

550
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 6: never been the kind of person that felt like I

551
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 6: had to.

552
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 5: Stay with my friends to be loyal.

553
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 6: I felt like my loyalty was to their growth and expansion.

554
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 5: My loyalty was y'all got to keep up original lebron

555
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 5: You're right.

556
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know it's like no, no, no, it's like, yeah,

557
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 6: what what what was Robin Harris had a joke, what

558
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 6: was it?

559
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: What was it you're talking about? Rob When you get

560
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 5: Richard famous, you're gonna change you. God damn right, I'm going.

561
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 9: I ain't gonna have no change, change right.

562
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 6: But the idea, the idea is for for me. It's like,

563
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 6: we got to climb. None none of us loved our childhoods,

564
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 6: none of us loved what our current situations were at

565
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 6: the time. Then if that's the case, we gotta climb.

566
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 6: We got to grind right.

567
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 5: And it was always painful.

568
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 6: For me when somebody couldn't keep up, but I would

569
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 6: much rather keep going and send them some help, then

570
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 6: slow down and let them pull us all down right, right.

571
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 6: So I've always felt like a responsibility.

572
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 5: To my to my squad.

573
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 6: But we gotta we gotta go right, we gotta climb right.

574
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: And for me at that time, that that meant no drugs.

575
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 5: Everybody gotta train.

576
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 6: If you if you want to do something different, you can,

577
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 6: you just can't do it here, because like we are

578
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 6: a crew of dreamers and we want to see how

579
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 6: close to the sun we can get, you know, so

580
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 6: and and that mentality, you know, you know, Charlie Mack,

581
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 6: it was so good to see you.

582
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 8: Charlie and Jeff had at ig conversation mid COVID.

583
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 9: It's funny.

584
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 8: I wasn't suppoed to say this, but I kind of

585
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 8: did call Charlie and gets some some cheating things before we.

586
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 9: Did this conversation.

587
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 8: But I wanted you to speak on that friendship between

588
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 8: y'all three men, because really that was kind of like

589
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 8: the greatest way to see the three of you. I

590
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 8: don't think it was no other interview, no big you know, networks,

591
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 8: y'all three.

592
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 9: Just busting.

593
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 4: Charlie Mack first out the limo come people.

594
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 6: You know, we talked about that in the IG lib

595
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 6: and I talked about it a little bit in the book.

596
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 6: It's like Charlie's a dreamer. Charlie's a big giant.

597
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 9: Dreamer, Thank God for it.

598
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 5: Right, you know, Jeff is.

599
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 6: A little more cocooned, right, Like Jeff wants his spot

600
00:35:55,880 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 6: and if everybody agrees to go, Jeff is gonna go, right.

601
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 5: But Jeff climbs in another way. Jeff climbs with talent.

602
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 6: He spends you know, sixteen hours a day behind his turntable,

603
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 6: so his climbing was in a different way and you know,

604
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 6: jayl who's as my manager, is like one of the

605
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 6: most well read people that I've ever met. We gravitated

606
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 6: to each other, you know, growing up in Philly, and

607
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 6: it was like we were doing the stuff that everybody

608
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 6: else was doing, and we was getting into trouble that

609
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 6: everybody else was getting into. But we all kind of

610
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 6: had our eyes on a different a different future for ourselves.

611
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 6: We all knew we were doing more than this.

612
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 5: And you know, your friends are critical.

613
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 6: It's like one bad friend can blow your whole shit

614
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 6: in one night. Your will.

615
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 8: Time you gave a speech, I never will forget this.

616
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 8: Shout outs to your baby sister, Allen, who's a great woman.

617
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 8: I came to a party you through for when the

618
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 8: Beckhams came to LA for the first time, and you

619
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 8: gave a speech about friendship and why it's so important

620
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 8: to be meticulous about friends. Can you just people need

621
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 8: to hear that at for a second, because it ain't

622
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 8: just Arich and the famous everybody.

623
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 6: It is. You know, there's a couple of quotes I've

624
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 6: heard around that, and it's it's.

625
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: Attributed to Confucius.

626
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 6: He says, look look at the five people you spend

627
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 6: the most time with, and that's who you are.

628
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: That's who you are. Yeah, show me who you're with,

629
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 4: I'll show you who you are. Yeah.

630
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: Right.

631
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 6: And you know I heard that. I was probably eighteen

632
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 6: the first time I heard that, and I.

633
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 5: Was like ooh.

634
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 6: It was like, okay, well, if that's the case, then

635
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 6: I want.

636
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 5: This one, two, three, you know.

637
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 6: But it's like, who your friends are is is you know,

638
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 6: one of the most critical decisions, you know, especially as

639
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 6: a teenager, that's one of the most critical decisions that

640
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 6: you can make. If the five friends that you associate

641
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 6: with are straight A students, you're probably gonna learn how

642
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 6: to be a straight A student. If the five friends

643
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 6: you associate with carry guns and sell drugs, you're probably

644
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: gonna end up carrying a gun and selling drugs.

645
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 5: Right.

646
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, human beings are creatures of

647
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 6: an example, and we fall into those lines of who

648
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 6: we're with, who you lay down with, who you're who

649
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 6: you share at bed with is probably the most important

650
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 6: decision you making your life ever make, you know what

651
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 6: I mean? Right, So it's like choosing your friends and

652
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 6: your closest associates is how you fertilize your dreams. Right,

653
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 6: you can't have a life that's better than your associations,

654
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 6: Like it's impossible. Your life is a team effort, right,

655
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 6: so you can't have a better life than your team.

656
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 2: I got admit when I finished the book that part

657
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 2: of me felt not quasi deflated, but the fact that

658
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 2: I made a decision. I made a decision like maybe

659
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 2: two years ago, that Okay, I'm really gonna concentrate and

660
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 2: get my thing together. I'm a direct this movie, and

661
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go hire and hire and.

662
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: Achieve and achieve and earned and achieve and the chief.

663
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 2: And then I know you told the the last six

664
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 2: chapters you know is a doozy of the book again,

665
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 2: no spoiler words, but you know something happens in September

666
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 2: twenty eleven that sort of changes the whole trajectory of your.

667
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: Life and whatnot.

668
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 2: And when I read, when I read that you had

669
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: to take you know, like you had to take in

670
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: a total assessment of everything that you were and it

671
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 2: wasn't about how much you made and how much you

672
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: you know, how many records you broke or whatnot, and

673
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 2: you kind of had to start all over again. Like

674
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 2: what I know that that level of achievement and that

675
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: level of fame can be somewhat addicting. Right So, now

676
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, ten years after the fact that

677
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 2: you had that, there's a story you tell about Jada's

678
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: fortieth birthday party in which I kind of feel that's

679
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: that's your paradigm shift to led you to where you.

680
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 5: Are right now.

681
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: Well, for starters, it's almost like, what are your life

682
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: goals right now?

683
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 5: Because everything else well.

684
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 3: More than that, I think he discovered that none of

685
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: that matters.

686
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 2: And to me, I actually felt like, oh shit, wait

687
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: a minute, like I'm trying to win this Oscar so

688
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 2: I could do more movies and get more power and

689
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 2: get more power and get more money and get more

690
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 2: power money. And then I realized, oh man, that's not

691
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 2: going to make me happy, because this book is basically

692
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 2: like a cheat sheet of you know him five years

693
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: and two where I want to be right. So for

694
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: you now, like what is important? Because I know you're

695
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: not saying throw the baby out with the bath water, no, no, no,

696
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: forget my achievements forgetting my career, not at all.

697
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: But what's what's what's the priority now?

698
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 6: So what happened is all of my climbing and all

699
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 6: of my achieving and everything that I was trying to

700
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 6: build is I was trying to fill an internal hole

701
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 6: with external achievements, right, And it's impossible, right, you can't

702
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 6: make enough money, you can't have enough sex.

703
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 5: You know, you can't win enough championships.

704
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 6: That to fill a traumatic void inside yourself and my

705
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 6: traumatic void.

706
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: So you're saying that internally at one point you felt like, well, shit,

707
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: I made eight point five billion in movies, like I

708
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 2: should have did twenty You're.

709
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 5: Right, and that so that's the carrot on the stick

710
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 5: that with there there is no end to achieving. There's

711
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 5: no end.

712
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 6: It's an infinite there's an infinite amount of money and.

713
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 5: Beautiful women and yachts and right, you know.

714
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 6: So what I realize is that what I was trying

715
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 6: to fill is at the end of the day, I

716
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 6: didn't like me right, So at the end of the day,

717
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,760
Speaker 6: I didn't feel good about me, and I needed those

718
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 6: things so I could feel good about me, right, And

719
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 6: all the way back to being a little boy in

720
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 6: chapter one is you know, watching my father beat up

721
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 6: my mother and I.

722
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,000
Speaker 5: Didn't do anything really.

723
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 6: Got me it really like it really damaged something inside

724
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 6: of me. You know the the opening line of the book,

725
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 6: You know that I talk about I've always felt like

726
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 6: a coward, right, And people would look, well.

727
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 5: Dude, you did this, and you did that, and you

728
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 5: did this and all that.

729
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 6: And none of the extra internal stuff fixes your internal

730
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 6: impression of yourself.

731
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 4: That initial wound, that initial wound.

732
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 5: Right.

733
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 6: So the journey for me came down to, well, if

734
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 6: I don't have all of those things like who am I?

735
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 6: If people don't clap with my movie, if people don't cheer.

736
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 5: When I walk in?

737
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 6: What if people booed when I walked in? Would that

738
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 6: change who I am?

739
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 5: Right?

740
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 6: And I realized that I had given away my self esteem.

741
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 6: It's supposed to be self esteem, but I had given

742
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 6: away my self esteem to achievements and to what my

743
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 6: woman feels about me, to how other people view me

744
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 6: and what they say about me. And I had trapped

745
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 6: myself in trying to uphold an image of who I

746
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 6: was rather than being who who I really was.

747
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 5: I wasn't comfortable being who.

748
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 6: I really was because I felt like the world would

749
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 6: punish me for that. You end up acting in real life,

750
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 6: you just.

751
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 5: Pretending, You're just pretending all the time.

752
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 6: Right, So one of the things for me every time

753
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 6: I've walked out on the Tonight Show and I hear

754
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 6: y'all playing, invariably.

755
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 5: I have a little bit of a little boy.

756
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 6: In security because the roots are the real Philly group.

757
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 5: Philly.

758
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: No, don't say this will because literally, no, no, no, no no,

759
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: this is what I have to say, literally when I'm

760
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 2: in any situation that's fearful.

761
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: Lately it's been giving speeches.

762
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: I hate giving speeches, and the moment, the thing that

763
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 2: I think about, you're literally the most confident curtain walker

764
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 2: of the Tonight Show.

765
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 3: That like, literally when you.

766
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:17,319
Speaker 2: Like, I know these I know who looks down. There

767
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: are people that run to the couch because they're so insecure.

768
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: There are people look down like You're the first person

769
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: I know that takes a second to walk out. You

770
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 2: come out like you know, like you're you're you're in

771
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: room in the coliseum, like you're ready to con So literally,

772
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 2: when I get to my space before before I give

773
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: any speech whatsoever, I think I literally have to vicariously

774
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:43,720
Speaker 2: do a what Wolve Smith.

775
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 3: So please don't even tell me someone as like.

776
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 6: Three time every time I've ever walked out on that show,

777
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 6: and I hear y'all playing, I cannot do anything but

778
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 6: get myself to get other to try to look cool.

779
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 5: For the Roots.

780
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 3: So you're psyching yourself.

781
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 9: Wow, big Philly shit, y'all.

782
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 3: Literally we're literally here.

783
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, you always in your poker face, right, So I'm

784
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 5: looking at you. I'm looking at you, trying to get

785
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 5: to like and you know, you give me the nod

786
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 5: and you're right there, and I was like, it's the

787
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 5: poker face. He's doing the poker face. I can't that.

788
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 6: The worst one of all was remember the one where

789
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 6: I did like the five entrances.

790
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: Yes, that's my favorite of all time.

791
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 6: All I could think was you thought I was the

792
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 6: corniest motherfucker that has ever walked out on the show.

793
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:45,240
Speaker 2: This is so funny because in my mind, in my mind,

794
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: I literally right. So, just just to recap for everyone,

795
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 2: there was a period after if you remember the Michelle

796
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: Bachman incident. Yes, were suddenly they understand that, oh the

797
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 2: Roots customized walk ons for people. Suddenly people wanted to

798
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 2: do these epic ass walk ons, like literally, Will Smith

799
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: and Steve Martin all their walk ons are very epic.

800
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: Now that's funny because I felt unworthy. Like when you

801
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:19,360
Speaker 2: walk out, I felt like a man, we're just dominions

802
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: from West Philly that isn't on his level?

803
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 9: Can a Philly moment real quick?

804
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 8: Because well, how does it feel you kind of started

805
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 8: this wave, I mean outside of Philadelphia international gamble huff,

806
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 8: but this huge wave of like Philly talent? What does

807
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 8: it look like? Fast forward? To not just see the roots, right,

808
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 8: but to see Kevin Hart like Philly is like killing it.

809
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:44,919
Speaker 9: What does it feel like to be like the kind

810
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 9: of daddy of all of this?

811
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 5: You know? And it's so funny because like.

812
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 6: And and this is this is why working on your

813
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 6: mind is the only work to do.

814
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 5: Right.

815
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: We need to talk more.

816
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 6: Right, So for me, I perceived myself as an outcast.

817
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 5: From that group, right, that was right? So to me,

818
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:16,319
Speaker 5: a I I was the real Philly dude.

819
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 9: But he wasn't from Philly.

820
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 6: He wasn't from Philly, but he was holding it down.

821
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 6: Really that was a repping for Philly. A mirror is

822
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 6: the look of repping for Philly.

823
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 9: But you to look making it from Philly?

824
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 5: Right? Yes?

825
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 7: So, but you know what, but I will say this,

826
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 7: I will energey as a non Philly person as an

827
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 7: outsider perspective to give you a little context on that.

828
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 5: Will.

829
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 7: I think for you, you just became to like you just

830
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 7: became to embody like so much other things, Like you

831
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 7: became bigger than Philly. You became bigger than you know

832
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 7: what I'm saying in the United States, Like you just

833
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 7: became Will Smith. It was not no, this is Will

834
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 7: from Philly. It's just no, this is Will Smith. So

835
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 7: I think and maybe from the standpoint of you know,

836
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 7: maybe you may not didn't see that you were getting

837
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 7: that love, and so it like like you said the

838
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:08,839
Speaker 7: cool factor quote unquote that a mirror might have had

839
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 7: or AI might have had. I just think you were

840
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 7: just in a whole nother stratosphere and people fuck with you.

841
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 7: I mean we all because even now, like when I

842
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 7: have conversations about your career and stuff, I'm like, bro

843
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 7: Independence Day and all that shit. Aside, He's the DJ,

844
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 7: I'm the rapper that is a classic hip hop album

845
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 7: like this, Bigga got a legit classic under his belt,

846
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 7: like don't get it fucked up. And I always wonder,

847
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,839
Speaker 7: did you ever feel that you weren't respected as an MC,

848
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. Once you went so crazy

849
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 7: and movies and your career, well he took off.

850
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 3: Wait let me add on to that and let you answer.

851
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 2: Will I just want to let you know that I

852
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 2: was one of those listeners you and Jeff had went

853
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: to Das the night that He's the DJ and I'm

854
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: the rapper came out yep, and you had to battle

855
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 2: with Steady be Man. Listen, Tarik, and I heard that

856
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: munchie Chie line that I don't know there was feeestyle whatever,

857
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 2: but like that's the first time I heard someone like

858
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,359
Speaker 2: play the dozens and ryme at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

859
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 2: And he called SETI b like you big munchie Chi

860
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 2: and that that moment was the first bonding that Tarik

861
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 2: and I ever had, Like we called each other like

862
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 2: did you hear that he called him a munchy cheek

863
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 2: like and it was all over school the next day.

864
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 2: Like after that, it was almost like you could do

865
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 2: no wrong, like so there was never a thing like

866
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 2: oh that boy corny whatever.

867
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 3: Like literally that battle, I wish I had that on tape.

868
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,840
Speaker 9: But answer the question, but I want to know what.

869
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 7: Is But yes, yeah, yeah, do you feel you get

870
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 7: those respects that respect SNMC.

871
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 5: More now than during during that time.

872
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 6: I feel like when people look back with with a

873
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 6: little bit of history, yo, that was kind of that

874
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 6: was kind of interesting.

875
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, he wasn't half bad.

876
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 6: What it was is Jeff and Ready Rock would body anybody.

877
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 6: So that's really so I was in between Jeff and

878
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 6: Ready Rock, so I felt supported in that way, like

879
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 6: nobody could beat Jeff right and what Ready Rock was

880
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 6: doing was just you know, he was one of one

881
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 6: right in terms of beat box, so there was like

882
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 6: nobody really even to battle him. So I always felt

883
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 6: like as a crew we would win, Like if people

884
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 6: wanted to go a head up, I felt like as

885
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 6: a crew, we would win. But I never felt like

886
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 6: because the acting came in so quick, I felt like

887
00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 6: I never developed the level of rhyme skill that I

888
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 6: felt like I could if I had had in it

889
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 6: to stay in it, you know. And it's like and

890
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 6: then then I got scared, so I was trying to

891
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:09,399
Speaker 6: make hit records instead of making what I was feeling, right,

892
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 6: So I got I got twisted in there in a

893
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 6: way that that jammed me up.

894
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 8: But Charlie said that nobody was not even trying to

895
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 8: battle you on the streets because you was killing it

896
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 8: so hard and then not to mention the battle and lyrically.

897
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 9: But then when it came to fisticuffs, you wasn't a

898
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 9: game neither.

899
00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 5: No, that was unless I had to.

900
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 6: I had to learn how to fight quick, so you

901
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 6: know that was That was the one thing that was

902
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 6: always a surprise to people. It's like I had so

903
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 6: much you know, anger and resentment build up. I would

904
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 6: suck upunch somebody quick, right, So I like, I was like,

905
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 6: just fight me, then fight me then, right.

906
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 9: People think they know they have no idea. Can I

907
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 9: ask a random Westbrook question please?

908
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 8: Because I know we're getting tight with time, But you

909
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 8: got a couple of my favorite shows that's either coming

910
00:54:07,719 --> 00:54:08,600
Speaker 8: on or on right now.

911
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 9: I wanted to throw it out real quick.

912
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 3: I forgot about Will Smith. The business this is.

913
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get.

914
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 9: Start with the most random of randoms, which is Cobra Kai.

915
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 7: Hey, listen, let me tell you something. Let me tell

916
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 7: you something, brother, Hey, let me tell you something. Man,

917
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,720
Speaker 7: Look Cobra Kai bro even without them to stop, man, listen,

918
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:29,640
Speaker 7: whole boy.

919
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 4: When he went to that draw and he.

920
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:37,400
Speaker 10: Pulled out that god damn ponytail. When Homer pulled that

921
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 10: scrunching out when he put out the hairtie. I said, boy,

922
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 10: let's go, let's go. Terry Silver is back. Bro, me

923
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 10: and my wife, y'all know, I'm not giving those pawmers.

924
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 4: I mean, he's in the trailer like no. Season four

925
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 4: Cobra Co was the best one.

926
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 6: Caleb pink at my brother in law. Yeah, soir, Caleb.

927
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 6: Caleb is uh, you know, I trained him for about

928
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,600
Speaker 6: five years and now he started his own company. He's producing.

929
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 6: So he brought in uh Cobra Kai to the to

930
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:09,240
Speaker 6: the family.

931
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 5: So yeah, he's Uh.

932
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 6: They just got nominated. They got nominated for uh SAG Awards.

933
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 6: Uh last night the Copra guys nominated.

934
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 9: And eight Babies Dreams Come True.

935
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:24,919
Speaker 5: Oh my god.

936
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that show is fucking great. I love that show.

937
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 5: Because Caleb brought it in.

938
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 6: I was like, Cobra Kai the Karate Kids, right, because

939
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,240
Speaker 6: you know, we had done the Karate Kid with Jaden.

940
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 5: We were already working with the I P.

941
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,359
Speaker 3: I was wondering, are we gonna get.

942
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 4: Jayden in future seasons of Cobra Ka.

943
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 5: Can we get.

944
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 4: We need a need?

945
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,879
Speaker 5: That's a great idea, that's a good question, that's a.

946
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: Really cool got to show them to teach yourself.

947
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 2: No, right.

948
00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 5: Was brilliant World Earth.

949
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 8: Welcome to Earth, Welcome to Okay, so from the Earth,

950
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 8: just finish all the episodes, Brother, Brother Brother. First of all,

951
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 8: can you break down to the world how National Geographic

952
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 8: makes that ship look like that?

953
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 5: Yes, I know you had.

954
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 2: To be in.

955
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 9: Me and my boyfriend were like, what in the GoPro

956
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 9: do they do how?

957
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 5: I mean know, listen, it looks gorgeous.

958
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 6: You know there's a company called Newtopia that that Westbrook

959
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 6: we partnered with, and you know it's just nat Geo

960
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 6: knows how to do it.

961
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, they're they're getting us into some.

962
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 6: Really beautiful places, some places that are untapped.

963
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 5: It was like that the and they just know how

964
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 5: to shoot it. I don't even know what they're doing.

965
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:52,839
Speaker 9: And your honest, I love because we can see your fear.

966
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 8: So when you circle back on the Fear episode, I

967
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,680
Speaker 8: was like, thank you, because yeah, I was.

968
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,960
Speaker 2: Gonna say if they presented you something that you were like,

969
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: I'm not ready this season, like maybe next.

970
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's one. There's one that we pushed to next year.

971
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 6: It was a trek to the South Pole and it

972
00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 6: takes nine days, and it's tense, tense all the way

973
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 6: for nine days to to the South Pole.

974
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 9: And I was don't want to big you up for

975
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 9: having so many explorers of color on.

976
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 6: Yes, yes exactly, but and you know what, that's all

977
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 6: I'm gonna shout out and that geo and and uh Newtopia.

978
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 6: You know that that is a part of their demand

979
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 6: for the show. They like they They are specifically mandating

980
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 6: that the all of the episodes be representative. So yeah,

981
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 6: they are the truth and bel Air.

982
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 5: It is about to be crazy.

983
00:57:53,800 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 2: As as evidenced by even though you know the gloves

984
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 2: have been blacked out. Yeah, are you ready with your

985
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: acceptance speech for the Oscars?

986
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 5: Hey, man, you can't. You're not supposed to talk about

987
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 5: that kind of stuff.

988
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 6: I was, I was talking. I was talking earlier about that.

989
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 6: Oh for another thing, we had the Women of the Movement.

990
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 6: Women of the Movement, Yes.

991
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 2: We have that.

992
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's uh with jay Z produced that with Jenny. Yeah,

993
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 6: so that that that's coming out too. But I was

994
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 6: just talking about the you know, the idea of I'm

995
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 6: trying to be spiritually above the the desire to win awards.

996
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 3: That's right, I get it.

997
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 2: But I told you, but I told you, I predicted

998
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 2: you did.

999
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 3: I believe that Beyonce is gonna win that night.

1000
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm.

1001
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: I believe that you're gonna win.

1002
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 6: Love it, And I won't say no if they If they,

1003
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 6: I won't be like I.

1004
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 9: Believe it don't matter because the people love you and

1005
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 9: that's what's first.

1006
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 5: So there you go. I love me, which is the

1007
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 5: new thing that I've gotten to.

1008
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 6: It's like I feel good about me with or without

1009
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 6: an Academy award.

1010
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 7: One thing I wanted to ask you, Will that I

1011
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,480
Speaker 7: think it would be helpful for a lot of people

1012
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 7: when you talk about just your journey of just you know,

1013
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 7: growing and you know kind of you know, learning to

1014
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 7: love yourself and be happy and everything.

1015
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 4: You know, a lot of people can look and say, well, Will,

1016
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 4: that's easy. And Nigga, you made iron legend. I mean

1017
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, right, you know what I'm saying.

1018
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 7: You got a team, you got therapists, you got chefs,

1019
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 7: you got accounts that you got all that. So to

1020
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 7: someone that's you know, not in your position, what would

1021
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 7: you say? I is just that taking what is step

1022
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 7: one of wanting to just be better and have a

1023
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 7: healthier relationship with yourself?

1024
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 5: What is step one?

1025
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 7: Regardless of money, whatever, what's the first step you can take?

1026
00:59:56,680 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 6: I think I think the first thing is to take

1027
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 6: an honest look at your life and how much of

1028
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,920
Speaker 6: it do you like? Right, Just take a really good

1029
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 6: look at your life, right, because it is a journey.

1030
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 6: You do have to make a journey, and the journey

1031
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:24,880
Speaker 6: is from you know, unpleasant and unwanted circumstances to circumstances

1032
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:30,440
Speaker 6: that you desire, right, and all the learning that you

1033
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 6: will have to do will be on your journey.

1034
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 5: Right. So the first thing is to commit to transformation. Right.

1035
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 5: There's no easy road. There's no easy road you're gonna have.

1036
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 4: Want the work is still yours.

1037
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 6: The work is yours, and the work can be done

1038
01:00:56,240 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 6: in any circumstance. There's like, you know, my Grandma's used

1039
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 6: to say, God is everywhere, right, so you can find

1040
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 6: it anywhere. You just have to commit to transforming your life.

1041
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,160
Speaker 6: First and foremost, you have to decide, you know what

1042
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:16,440
Speaker 6: I'm done, and I'm making a change. And the first

1043
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 6: changes are always going to be really obvious, right, the

1044
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 6: first changes of how you eat, or who you associate with,

1045
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:32,720
Speaker 6: or a job you're doing that makes your fucking stomach hurt, right,

1046
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, It's like the first couple

1047
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 6: of changes are going to be really, really obvious, and

1048
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 6: it's the courage to make the first change, right where

1049
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 6: people of that are in bad relationships, you're you know,

1050
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,840
Speaker 6: you're in a bad physical condition, you don't you're you're

1051
01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 6: in a neighborhood, you don't like, you're, you're you're doing

1052
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 6: things that you know are hurting yourself. And it's like,

1053
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 6: just the first step, just find that first thing that

1054
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,960
Speaker 6: you know, damn well does not need to be in

1055
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 6: your life that you are babysitting the book. Is there

1056
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 6: a book that you recommend there? Well, I mean there's

1057
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:17,040
Speaker 6: there's a couple of things.

1058
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:17,880
Speaker 5: It's really hard.

1059
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 6: I mean, other than Will, I think Will is one

1060
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 6: of the best books on the market right now for

1061
01:02:24,160 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 6: the transform of your life of everything I read.

1062
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 2: Let me just let our listeners know and for all

1063
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 2: the like nigga, I don't read it whatever, no, no, no, no, no,

1064
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you know what time it is.

1065
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:38,439
Speaker 3: It's weird enough.

1066
01:02:38,520 --> 01:02:43,160
Speaker 2: Having written six books myself, I didn't consider myself a reader. However,

1067
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:45,720
Speaker 2: when I started, you know, when the pandemic started and

1068
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 2: I started doing my morning walks versus podcast.

1069
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 5: Man, I've read.

1070
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,439
Speaker 2: I've read so many books audiobook style, which is still

1071
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 2: reading like yeah, whatever for you snobs, like you have

1072
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,200
Speaker 2: to read it first in order to read a book. Now,

1073
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 2: I believe the way that you should take in Will's book,

1074
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: your first thing is I definitely believe that you should

1075
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: listen to the audiobook because it's different when it's coming

1076
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 2: from his voice.

1077
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, and not to mention, he Pepper's the.

1078
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 2: Soundtrack that makes it feel like it's a podcast or whatever,

1079
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 2: like there's down effects, re enactments and.

1080
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 3: Him imitating Charlie Mack and all that stuff.

1081
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 2: I feel, and it makes it endearing, especially those last

1082
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 2: six chapters. So fante, I would actually recommend you once

1083
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: you listen to that, that'll you know. I think it's

1084
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 2: important that people really taking this book.

1085
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 3: And hear what Will is saying.

1086
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 2: And I don't think it's a hashtag like only rich

1087
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 2: people stuff or whatever likes. It's literally having the will

1088
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 2: to know you want to change, and especially where we

1089
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 2: are now where a lot of us and what I

1090
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 2: mean us hip hop nation, a lot of these cats

1091
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 2: are expiring and they're fifty before they make sixty.

1092
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 3: And I think a lot of that just has to

1093
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 3: do with the will.

1094
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 5: To not.

1095
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: Want to move on.

1096
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: I think it's one thing that it's like when you

1097
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: get past twenty, you're like, Okay, I didn't get shot,

1098
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,840
Speaker 2: so now I'm good. And then there's a point where we,

1099
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: you know, try to not have a stroke or make

1100
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,280
Speaker 2: sure our health is right. Now I'm realizing that sixty

1101
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 2: on is going to be a crazier battle for us

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Speaker 2: to have the will to live and.

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Speaker 3: All those things.

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Speaker 2: So I would actually recommend Will's audiobook first as a

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Speaker 2: central reading.

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Speaker 8: I was just going to ask the craziest question of all.

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Speaker 8: I was just gonna say, hold on, battle Fresh Prince

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Speaker 8: and Jazzy Jeff.

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Speaker 9: In the versus what.

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Speaker 5: We said, who's going to.

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Speaker 9: Who's going to battle Fresh Prince and Jazzy Jeff in

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Speaker 9: the versus it was a.

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Speaker 5: Job, It's going to battle Jazzy Jeff. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 5: like battle.

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Speaker 6: I was us having that conversation with somebody the other

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01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 6: day and somebody was like, you know, y'all, y'all should

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Speaker 6: go with.

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01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 5: L was like l L L L Yeah, I record,

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Speaker 5: all right.

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna have me getting bodied by ls.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know what I actually think, you know

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Speaker 2: what I think your match would be who I would

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Speaker 2: I would think that Jessey, Jeff and the Fresh Prince

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Speaker 2: versus Naughty by Nature be a good versus.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, that might be fine.

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Speaker 4: I'm mad. I'm not mad.

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Speaker 5: I think I think.

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Speaker 3: It's evenly matched.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, it's like I think that would be. You

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Speaker 5: got like twenty albums, right.

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Speaker 3: That boy got Hello and Buster I think are more

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Speaker 3: of a match.

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Speaker 2: I don't care if they feel if they're outclassed each other,

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Speaker 2: but I feel like ll and Buster almost.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 7: I was gonna ask you, Will, do you ever get

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Speaker 7: a point in terms of when you talk about like

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Speaker 7: always striving, striving and climbing and like build your team

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Speaker 7: and keeping them like always wanting to elevate. Do you

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Speaker 7: ever get to a point where you just realize, you

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01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,960
Speaker 7: know what, I'm good? Like good ever happen in the

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Speaker 7: mind of Will Smith.

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Speaker 6: I've looked at the first half of my life. I

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Speaker 6: think about it in terms of climbing and collecting, and

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01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 6: now the second half of my life is going to

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Speaker 6: be given away, right, It's going to be giving it back, right,

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Speaker 6: So it was, you know, all of the things that

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Speaker 6: I gathered through the you know, striving and.

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Speaker 5: Climbing, and now my attention is on.

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Speaker 6: Developing my heart and developing my mind through giving and relating.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 6: So part of the discovery for me is my true

1153
01:06:56,480 --> 01:07:02,120
Speaker 6: happiness was never going to be achieved through collecting, and

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Speaker 6: I'm realizing that the deepest joy that I experience it

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Speaker 6: is through giving, right.

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Speaker 5: And it was like, that's the the real.

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Speaker 6: Magic of love is giving, and it's in helping, it's

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Speaker 6: in using what you are to assist someone else to

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Speaker 6: become what they were meant to become.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 7: Do you think that's Do you think that's what's kept

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Speaker 7: you and Jada together for so long?

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Speaker 4: Is that that sounds like a foundational part of y'all? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we are. We are full on climbers and seekers.

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Speaker 6: We are developing our comprehension of what love is. And

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Speaker 6: like everybody wants love, but nobody knows what it actually is. Right,

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Speaker 6: So you want something, but you don't you don't know

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Speaker 6: what it is, right, And it's like the Marines always

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01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 6: there's a marine quote. Everybody wants to go to heaven,

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Speaker 6: but nobody die, right, and it's like there's a there's

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Speaker 6: a certain amount of self reconstruction that has to happen

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Speaker 6: in order to have any possibility at love.

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Speaker 5: Your life has to be focused.

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Speaker 11: On transforming and correcting the false beliefs, the flawed perceptions,

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Speaker 11: the poisonous ideas.

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Speaker 5: In your mind. Your entire life has.

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Speaker 6: To be centered on removing those things in order that

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Speaker 6: you can hold the love that you're asking for from

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Speaker 6: someone else.

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Speaker 5: Gentlemen, it's not.

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Speaker 3: As big man.

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01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 4: Yeah that's big, that's big.

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Speaker 3: Let us. Yeah, that's for you. Yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 2: That's it right, Like literally I thought, like, you know, okay,

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Jam's episode was six hours, so no, but will

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Speaker 2: literally drop so much potent magic in this interview.

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Speaker 3: And I really want to thank you for.

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01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 2: Giving us, uh letting us be the audience, not even

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Speaker 2: giving us this audience really.

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Speaker 7: Man, seriously, man, and thank you to I mean, I

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01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 7: can't I have no idea what it would be like

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01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 7: to have spent you know, the last thirty five years

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01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 7: of my life is one of the most famous people

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01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 7: on the fucking planet, you know what I mean. So,

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 7: you know, just for you, we appreciate you just sharing,

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01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 7: just being so transparent about your journey, and you know,

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Speaker 7: you and Jada's like like everything, Like y'all have been

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Speaker 7: through shit that would have broke a whole bunch of

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Speaker 7: other people, but I understand that y'all live incredible lives,

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Speaker 7: and just for you to be so transparent about this man,

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Speaker 7: it's really inspiring.

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Speaker 4: And we just thank you just for everything, bro, for real,

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Speaker 4: and thank.

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Speaker 8: You for always coming back to Philly, because I tell

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01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 8: you doing those weekends he hasn't, but still when he

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01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 8: was doing them, you was always.

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Speaker 9: There, always cleaning up the neighborhoods.

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Speaker 5: So thank you. Appreciate y'all, man, thank you, Thank you well.

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Speaker 2: On behalf of Layah Sugar, Steve Unpaid, Bill and Fonte

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Speaker 2: and myself Well Smith, thank you very much.

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Speaker 3: This is Quest Love Supreme. We will see you on

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Speaker 3: the next ground.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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