1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Warning today's episode. Today's spoilers for the excellent seventh episode 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: of Agatha all long titled Dest's Hand on Me. Watch 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: that before you listen to this. Hello, I'm Jason Concepcion 4 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: and I'm Rosey Night and welcome back to Xtra Vision 5 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: of the podcast. Will we dive deep to your favorite shows, movies, 6 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: comics of pop culture coming from iHeart Podcast. We're we're 7 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: bringing you three episodes a week, definitively the favorite Tuesday, 8 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: with an extra episode on Wednesday and Thursday, and sometimes 9 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: another extra. 10 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,160 Speaker 2: Episode if you're lucky, If you're lucky, if you're lucky. 11 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: In today's episode, we are rounding up New York Comic 12 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 2: Con news and other news you will be interested in, 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 2: including the status. 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 3: Of the Blade movie. 15 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 2: Boohoo on that one, but maybe good news for mahersh 16 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 2: Lali maybe maybe, and more. And in the airlock, we 17 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: are going to be talking about that unbelievable top tier 18 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 2: episode of Agatha or Along, which is already being spoken 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 2: of in hush tones about it being one of the 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: best things, if not the best thing, that Disney plus 21 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: TV has ever done. 22 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 3: I mean, what an episode I cannot wait to talk to. 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: You about it, but first, previously on First Up in News, 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: DC's Jimley and Friends comics panel from IGN dropped a 25 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 1: whole lot of news. 26 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: There was so much news at this panel. First are 27 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 2: big news for Jim Lee and Jeff Lobe fans. I 28 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: would say probably more Jim Lee fancy reuniting for a 29 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 2: sequel to the two thousand and two two thousand and 30 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 2: four Batman story Hush. Now this is not fully surprising 31 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: because this has been a hugely influential story on the 32 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 2: Batman on apparently more DC stuff that is in the works. 33 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: There's rumors that Hush will be the villain in the 34 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 2: Batman too. I will say there was already a just 35 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 2: want to be like a well actually guy, There was 36 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 2: already a sequel Heart of Hush Pauldini legendary, but this 37 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: will be a direct sequel from what they're saying. 38 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: The logo for it is H two s H. 39 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: So the internet has been talking about how do you 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: is it h two USh? 41 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: Is it like my friend Mark said, is it like 42 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 3: you pronounce for toosh? It's like hatouche? So who knows. 43 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: We're interested in it, and it's actually going to begin 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 2: really soon in Batman one fifty eight, which will be 45 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: around March twenty twenty five, so it will come sooner 46 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: than expected, even bigger news for me and Jason. 47 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, this is crazy, this is this 48 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: is so big. 49 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 2: Obviously, when we relaunched Here at iHeart, we had James 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 2: Tyning come on, superstar writer and comic book creator who 51 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 2: has really been revitalizing horror comics. We talked to him 52 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: specifically about the Nice House on the Lake series and 53 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 2: its continuation the Nice House by the Sea, and very excitingly, 54 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: because of the success of those absolutely fantastic comics with 55 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 2: Alvarro Martinez Bueno, DC is actually going to revive Vertigo 56 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 2: as a. 57 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: Creator owned imprint. 58 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: Vertigo is obviously the legendary imprint that saw, you know, 59 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: the home of retroactively Sam Man, Doom Patrol, Swamp thing 60 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 2: and then became the home of things like Preacher and 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 2: other legendary series. This is actually a tradition that DC 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 2: has done with Doom Patrol. They retroactively added Vertigo to 63 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: those an Animal Man, the Grant Morrison Animal Man stuff, 64 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 2: and they are going to retroactively add the Vertigo banner 65 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 2: to a reprint of the first issue of the nice 66 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 2: house by the sea, and then from then on we 67 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: will be getting more and it's a big deal for 68 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 2: DC to be making create our own comics again. 69 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: So am I to understand then, Rosie, that Black Label 70 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: will continue but as a kind of but as a 71 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: place where DC characters can be explored in alternate, more mature, 72 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 1: gritty visions. 73 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: I think currently that is the understanding. 74 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 2: I would say, if this Vertigo relaunch goes well, and 75 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: at the moment everything James Tynan touches is turning to 76 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 2: gold and needs to gold turns to gold and it 77 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 2: turns and he's got his tiny onion kind of banner 78 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: where he's producing comics, producing you know, properties to be adapted. 79 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Vertigo and Elseworld's 80 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: become the main big thing. But there's always a chance 81 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: that Black Label could exist, especially because one of the 82 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 2: cool things about Black Label, in my opinion, is less 83 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: about the content and more about the style. Because a 84 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: lot of times they'll do magazine size books. It's kind 85 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 2: of more of a banded decinay. You can get really 86 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: interesting titles from solo cartoonists. 87 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 3: So they could all they could all live alongside each other. 88 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, my sense is that Vertigo will be for creator 89 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: owned and a black label will not be for creator owned. 90 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, because so in the old days, Vertigo is 91 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: a very interesting situation because certain things that were created 92 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 2: there were creator owned and other things were not. It 93 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: was all dependent on the contract and the creator. But 94 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,559 Speaker 2: it sounds like from what they said at this panel, 95 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 2: which is always the big DC News panel of the year, 96 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 2: it sounds like this is going to be a creator 97 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 2: owned banner. And I wouldn't be surprised if we saw 98 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 2: some of James Tynan's kind of cohort that he the 99 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,039 Speaker 2: way he was kind of Scott Snyder's mentor. He now 100 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: has a crew of young creators. I wouldn't be surprised 101 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 2: if we see some of them, Isaac Goodheart, people like 102 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: that coming in and getting to do some of these 103 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: creator own books at DC. So I think this is 104 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: especially exciting if you're a Peacemaker fan. There was some 105 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 2: fun Peacemaker news. Peacemaker is actually gonna get its own 106 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: spin off comic directly connected to the TV show called 107 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 2: The Vigilante Eagerly double feature, gonna be set between seasons 108 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: one and two, kind of like what they did with 109 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 2: My Adventures with Superman, and it's gonna be overseen by 110 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 2: James Gunn. I think this will be fun. I loved Vigilante, 111 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: that was my favorite part of the show, and obviously 112 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: I'm big Godzilla fan, so this was fun. I also 113 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: think I know Brian Bucachell butcher Leto and he's a 114 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 2: really great guy, and he will be returning with artist 115 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 2: Christian Juice for Justice League Versus Godzilla Versus Kong two 116 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: and this is gonna be really cool because there's gonna 117 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: be Kingadora, Radan Mothra and this will be coming out 118 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: summer next year. Not a surprise that they're doing this 119 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 2: because it was a huge success, but the art looks great. 120 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: Christian Juice is a great artist, and I think it's 121 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: gonna be fun to see. The first one was a 122 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 2: little bit of a kind of taster on what a 123 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: crossover like this could be. But I think it's going 124 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: to be really fun to see the legendary Monster Verus 125 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: expand in this DC world and see which villains are 126 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: going to be there trying to weaponize the Titans. So 127 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 2: I think this could be really fun. Great panel. Jim 128 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 2: Ley never disappoints. If you ever ever at New York 129 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: Comic Con, this is always a great panel to attend, 130 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: great energy, awesome news, and who doesn't love Jimley. 131 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: He's the best. 132 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: He's great. The iconic artist and creator Marvel with news. 133 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,679 Speaker 1: They've announced that there's an upcoming Star Wars Jediight series. 134 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: It will be released. It will take place before the 135 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Phantom Menace and is going to focus on the Jedi 136 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: Order with an ensemble cast including Quai got Jin Obi Wan, 137 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: your favorite nine hundred year old doddering Jedi Master Yoda. 138 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: We have will will we ever get rid of this man? 139 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 2: He has been causing problems in the galaxy for a 140 00:07:59,160 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: very long. 141 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: Time, everybody's favorite sad rich boy, Count Dooku, Shock ten, 142 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: and some new characters too. The promar looks looks really fun. 143 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: Count Dooku front and center there next to Qui Gunjin. 144 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 1: The series will feature in overarching the Street and involving 145 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Qui gong Gin, and each issue is going to be 146 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,679 Speaker 1: focused on a different Jedi coming to you sounds. 147 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 2: I'm a big fan of the expanded universes. Everyone knows 148 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: the there's some great Jedi Night stuff in there, so 149 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm excited to see how this kind of how this 150 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: kind of shakes out. And obviously we have been big 151 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 2: supporters of the Star Wars comics. 152 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,119 Speaker 3: We love what they've been doing. 153 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: There, so I will be very excited to see this. 154 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: Always nice to have a new addition to law. 155 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: New for you Wolverine heads out there, and we know 156 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: that you're out there. 157 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: You guys love Wolverine. Who doesn't like he's a beloved man. 158 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 1: A beloved beloved Canadian man. There is a new ongoing series, 159 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: Ultimate Wolverine, which we'll launch in twenty twenty five, written 160 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: by Chris Condon, drawn by Sandro Capuccio. And for you 161 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: Marvel Unlimited subscribers out there, like myself, lots of new 162 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:18,839 Speaker 1: Astonishing branded series are dropping on the platform, including Astonishing 163 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: Spider Man episodes issues one and two available now, Astonishing 164 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: X Men beginning in December twenty twenty four, and Astonishing Avengers. 165 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 2: And I just want to say that, speaking of Marvel Unlimited, 166 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 2: because we are here talking about here, I just want 167 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 2: to shout out our pal, Pretty Chibba has an unbelievable 168 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: book there right now called House of Haarkness. It's like 169 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: a wonder vision Magic School Wonder is there with Jericho 170 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: Drum who you may know as Voodoo. Just an absolutely 171 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 2: beautiful series, really cool stuff, one of the coolest Marvel 172 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: comics out there, and you can. 173 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 3: Only read it on online. 174 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: So I just say go read it because I really 175 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 2: want it to become a real physical comic so I 176 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 2: can so I can touch it in the shop. 177 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: But it's absolutely delightful, big fan. 178 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: Marvel also previewed their next big crossover event, One World 179 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: under Doom, which drops Sebruary twenty twenty five, is part 180 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: of the Rise of Emperor Doom series. Yes, sounds very relevant. 181 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 1: I will say Marvel has been quite good in recent 182 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: years at matching their comics releases to the kind of 183 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,679 Speaker 1: broad theme of whatever is happening in the in the 184 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: movie space, that's right. Marvel spider Man two coming to 185 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: PC January thirtieth. For Marvel spider Man two, the less 186 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: copaganda version of the Spider Man video game series, attendees 187 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: got to see a trailer for Daredevil Born Again, starring 188 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: a long time Daredevil mask wielder, Charlie Cox and of 189 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: course everybody's favorite bald crime lord, the Kingpin, played by 190 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: Vincent Tinofrio. Premiering March fourth, twenty twenty five. And you know, 191 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: the discourse I saw was like, wow, gritty tone and 192 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: people are excited. 193 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I saw some really great reactions of like 194 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: apparently the biggest crowd reaction was when Foggy showed up, 195 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: which I love. 196 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 3: Because you know that's a true dead devil crawd. 197 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta best, You've gotta be a dead devil 198 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 4: devil set up sick as like Foggy shows up and 199 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 4: everyone's outside the window. 200 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, Foggy Foggy. So yeah, I'm very interested in 201 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 3: this once. 202 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 2: I think as we get closer, we're definitely going to 203 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 2: be talking about the Born Again comics and how this 204 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: may or may not adapt that. I think it could 205 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 2: be very intriguing. I also saw a lot of people 206 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 2: talking about they hope, you know, we see Echo show 207 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 2: up and stuff. So it's definitely going to be an 208 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 2: interesting one. But from what everyone says, looks great and 209 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: the cost I have to say they have. I know, 210 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 2: obviously they are under contract, but generally their enthusiasm for 211 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: the reimagined version of this series has been pretty high. 212 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like when you were asking the cost 213 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 2: of game of Thrones, what they thought about the final season. 214 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: Those are memes. 215 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: I do wonder do you think that the response to 216 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: Foggy played by Elden Henson is do you think it 217 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,479 Speaker 1: was actually mighty ducks heads and they were just excited, 218 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: just excited to see from them. 219 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,160 Speaker 2: They were just ready, baby, They were like, you know what, 220 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 2: I will say that I do think is really interesting 221 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 2: about the Foggy fandom, especially within the TV show and stuff. 222 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,720 Speaker 2: I feel like most male characters like that a side 223 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: character or something. And I'm sure the Internet will tell 224 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: me that I'm wrong if I am wrong. 225 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 3: But like, I feel like, usually that's like a shipping fandom, 226 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 3: but I don't see many people shipping Matt and this. 227 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 3: I feel like people just love. 228 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: The fact that this superhero has a sensible best friend 229 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 2: who is around and helps him out and says, bro like, 230 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: don't be doing silly shit and do this, don't do it. 231 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: Just how about you just focus on being a lawyer. 232 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: Imagine that murderc and Foggy. Imagine that it will be 233 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: interesting to see. But yeah, I'm very excited. Obviously the 234 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 2: Netflix shows, which we are going to be talking. 235 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,719 Speaker 3: About more extensively in months coming up. 236 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: I think they are really great and fun, but I'm 237 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: interested to see how Disney Plus makes his mark, especially 238 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: in an era where we've got a show as fantastic 239 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 2: as Agatha going on. 240 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: That's right. The Women of Marvel panel returned to New 241 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: York City Comic Con, featuring editor Sarah Brunstead, writers Erica Schultz, 242 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: Mackenzie Cadenhead, and Stephanie Phillips. Some details of note were 243 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: the Women of Marvel one shot Women of Marvel she Devils, 244 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: which was going to follow various street level heroines, and 245 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 1: Caiden had also announced the five issue limited series in 246 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: conjunction with the new Doom pair Dom Academy, launching in 247 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: February as a kind. 248 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 3: Of tie in man that is like dool. 249 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: I'm saying, if you put the word Academy after a book, 250 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: I'm putting on my polist, I'm going Avenger's Academy, do 251 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: am Academy. 252 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: I will be enlisted. I will be enrolled. 253 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 2: I love a book about some young kids doing something, 254 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: and I love a rag. 255 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 3: Tag villain series. This sounds great to me. 256 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: I think I've also seen I saw Angelique Groschere that 257 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: there's gonna be also a Marvel voices storm Book, which 258 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 2: looks really really cool. So I always love more Storm 259 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: focused because she is such a legend. So yeah, great 260 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: New York Comic Comfor news, I think I heard that 261 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: it was a really great one for artists busy as 262 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: always huge artist Ali really just making it his name. 263 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: They need a. 264 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: Bigger venue, let me just say it, like, they need 265 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: to expand it. 266 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: They did also add this. I was not there. 267 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: I did not go for the very reason you're talking about, Jason. 268 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: Unless someone's paying me, I'm not going in that Javit Center. 269 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: It's too crazy and it's been too credible. 270 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 2: It's been too crowdy for like five years. But I 271 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: will say they did actually expand, and this is very 272 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 2: notable because now they are a five day convention like 273 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: San Diego, and their Wednesday is essentially a pro and 274 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 2: retailer day, So for comics pros, you could go and 275 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: listen to people like Scott Snyder giving talks, Retailers could 276 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 2: find out about no initiatives. 277 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 3: So I think that really. 278 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: Once again sets New York Comic Con up as a 279 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 2: potential contender for the biggest show because it's always been. 280 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 2: It does have more attendees than San Diego comic on, 281 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: which again is wild because they do not use all 282 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 2: of the Javit Center. But I do think we could 283 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 2: see in the next few years that conversation about which 284 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: show is really the main show of the year. I 285 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: think that especially this year's New York had a lot 286 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 2: of TV announcements, a lot of TV panels, So it's 287 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 2: going to be an interesting one as we head into 288 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. 289 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: Sad News now is essentially dead. Marvel's basically done. It's 290 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: not on the twenty twenty five calendar any longer, and 291 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: it certainly appears that Mhersha A Lee has pulled out 292 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: of the project. Yes, so now you're talking to a 293 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: project that has had significant upheaval behind the scenes, both 294 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: with the writing and directing, and now it does not 295 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: have a star. This movie's dead. 296 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was obvious that it was going to get 297 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: pulled from next year because there's no way they were 298 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: making that movie this quickly unless they did what I 299 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: wanted them to do, which was get a budget of 300 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 2: like twenty million and make like an actual low budget 301 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: horror movie, low budget comparatively to the MCU. But obviously 302 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: they're not going to do that I think this is 303 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 2: a real bomba. I think that it's the movie that 304 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 2: people have been most excited for in the MCU since 305 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: it was announced in twenty nineteen. I also think let 306 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 2: Mahershela go on and do other great things. I'm also like, 307 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 2: is there a way he can be in that Michael B. 308 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 2: Jordan vampire movie that they've been making secretly over there 309 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 2: him and Ryan Coogler. 310 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 3: I'm like, let him in. 311 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: Also, this is very much I'm putting big, big rumor. 312 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: This is not a report, but I do think it's 313 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: interesting enough to it big big rumors here online. And 314 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 2: this could be a just throwing something at the wall 315 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: because it seems likely to stick. But there is apparently 316 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 2: talk that Maherschela may be considered as a potential Martian 317 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: manhunter in the James Gun universe. Now, that would be 318 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 2: unbelievable casting the shape shifting alien kind of detective and overseer. 319 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: I would love to see that casting. It would also 320 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: very much fit into this kind of true detective esque 321 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: space because Mahshlot obviously starred in one of those sees. 322 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 4: Because he gets because he gets very very old that season. 323 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 4: He must have felt at the end of the at 324 00:17:54,240 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 4: the end of the production the Blade. 325 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm like, I was gonna say, this is 326 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 2: one thing I want to read about, but I'm like, 327 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 2: maybe me and you will be the ones writing this, Jason, 328 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: Maybe we'll write the book on what happened what happened 329 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: because we need to know, as the meme so perfectly 330 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 2: put it, We did this in the Zeros with Stephen Dorf, 331 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: you know, like the original Blade movie is fantastic. 332 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 3: I also wouldn't be surprised if we get some. 333 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 2: Lay two is very good, Blade two is obviously Blade two, 334 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,479 Speaker 2: Giama dol Tory. Blade through three now has a kind 335 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:30,120 Speaker 2: of counts charms, little charm. Also, say Reynolds, he's dead 336 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 2: pulling it up in that movie. 337 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 3: He's perfecting his Deadpool attitude. 338 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: I would also say I wouldn't be surprised if we 339 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 2: get some kind of hold over Wesley Snipes returning esque 340 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: like don't worry MCU news soon, Hey, there is the 341 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: Blade trilogy on Blu Ray physical media people. 342 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 1: Finally in this long news segment. 343 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:52,239 Speaker 2: Wow, what this Blue segment is almost as long as 344 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:53,479 Speaker 2: the Blade production cycle. 345 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: Lebron James on on the on the social media platform 346 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: known fortunately as X tweeted quote best place to order 347 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: comic books from used to click when I was younger, 348 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: Batman being my fave. I can order and read from 349 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: iPad or best to do straight off the comic, which 350 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he means, should I go to 351 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: a store? James Gunn then flew in with the answer 352 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: he was ready, DM me, I can hook you up. 353 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,120 Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this, Rosie Knight. Yes, gorilla marketing. 354 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: Is this marketing? 355 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 3: Definitely goerrilla marketing? 356 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 2: It feels very akin to when Lebron James perfectly put 357 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 2: on X where can I watch X Men ninety seven? 358 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: Heard it's good? 359 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: And now I will say I do like the other 360 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 2: version of this where Lebron just uses X instead of 361 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,880 Speaker 2: Google because there's like fifty million people were replied to him. 362 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 2: I do think something that is particularly cool about this 363 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 2: if it is gorilla marketing, and I assume with the 364 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: swiftness that James Gunn replied, it probably is. I do 365 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 2: like that under this thread now is likely hundreds of 366 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 2: thousands of people sharing their local comic shops. 367 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 3: I think there's a cool side effect there. Also. 368 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: Jason Cascepsio and I need to know who do you 369 00:20:07,440 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 2: think they're going to cast Lebron as in the James 370 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: gunnerverse now that he's done this tweet, as we know, 371 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 2: he already has the Warner Brothers hook up space jam. 372 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, I know that you just mentioned 373 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 1: Marcia being attached, but I think Lebron is a manhunter 374 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: lobo a lobo. 375 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 3: Oh wow, I would love to see that. I could 376 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 3: see the energy there. Let's see. 377 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 2: I'm also putting bets on by the end of the year, 378 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: we will have the classic. I visited the DC Comics 379 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 2: Twitter slash x post where you post you pose next 380 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 2: to the DC logo. You're holding some comics they gave you. 381 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 2: They're probably gonna give them a nice hot toys. I 382 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:48,360 Speaker 2: think we'll see Lebron visiting the iceberg as they call 383 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: it now, by the end of this year, after this tweet. 384 00:20:52,640 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: Next up, Yeah, okay, here we go, Episode seven, Death's 385 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: hand on me. Wow, I gets all along. And firstly, just. 386 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: Wow, am I even ready to talk about it? I 387 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 3: don't know. I'm like, I feel I've got it so 388 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 3: many times. Yeah, and I don't. I'm like, am I am? 389 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 3: I will I be able to process it? 390 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: I don't know is just forget Marvel, forget Disney Plus, 391 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,880 Speaker 1: forget all that. This is just a great television episode, 392 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: just a wonderful episode of TV. And I think, having 393 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: thought about it, maybe the best thing that Marvel has 394 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: done on Disney Plus. I think the single best episode. 395 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: Maybe. 396 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's no question. I We open with Lilia dressed 397 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: as the Fairy Godmother and she's falling in slow motion. 398 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 1: We cut to the road billion Agatha walking uneasy companions. 399 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: He is asking questions. Agatha is like, you can ask 400 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: me stuff, you can talk to me. We can spend 401 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: this time talking to each other. So he says, okay, 402 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: where's Rio. Agatha is not like any question, but that 403 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 1: that's the one. I don't want to answer any other 404 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: questions for me. I was your babysitter once, you know. 405 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: And Billy insists that, well, yeah, you were my babysitter, 406 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: but Wanda is not my mom, which is, oh, that's 407 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: a huge note. 408 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: But also like I just want to say, like I 409 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: know that one day is somewhere and she hard that 410 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: and she is pissed, like she is so angry, she's 411 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: about to come back to life just because she heard 412 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 2: him say that, Like and also very interesting to say 413 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 2: that he obviously sees missus Kapplan as his mom, and 414 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: I think that means we could probably see her potentially 415 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: come back. 416 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 5: Do we know that? 417 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: Because recall Wanda back to the Wanda Show Wanda vision, 418 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: she stole him from an alternate dimension, him and Tommy, 419 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: so he could be talking about miss Kaplan, but he 420 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: could also be talking about a different in that alternate dimension. 421 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: In either case, to your point, this is a that's 422 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: a huge drip. 423 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 2: I know she's somewhere, she's coming back to life just 424 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,440 Speaker 2: because she heard him say that's not my mom. 425 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,880 Speaker 1: Also lets you know that they're going to have a 426 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: very rocky relationship. 427 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 2: Which is the case in the comics too, so not 428 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: not surprising. And then we get the great I mean, 429 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,199 Speaker 2: this episode is such a feat of writing because it 430 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: is talking to the audience, but it's also telling like 431 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: a timey Whimy Mike Flanagan esque emotional time is not 432 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 2: straightforward things story, And I love this next line where 433 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: Billy says. 434 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 3: Well, I've got. 435 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: A question, you know, I just I just dissed my 436 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: mom and I said she wasn't my mom. But wander 437 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: maximf is she Is she dead? Is she really dead? 438 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 3: And Agatha's like, yes, no, maybe. 439 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, you know, the conversations that we're happening, 440 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 2: you're so fun. 441 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: They come to a castle and this is something that 442 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,639 Speaker 1: Agatha has not seen on the road before, and this 443 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: annoys Billy because Billy expresses now that the whole reason 444 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: that he did this and brought her here was because 445 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: he thought that her experience is the only person to 446 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: have walked to the end of the road ever, would 447 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: be valuable. And now it really feels like she doesn't 448 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: know anything about the road and she has nothing to 449 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: add to this, and so Billy kind of roasts her 450 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: about this and in fact wonders openly, did you actually 451 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 1: do it? Did you actually walk the road? And this 452 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,119 Speaker 1: actually seems to hurt Agatha's feelings. 453 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 3: I think there's some. 454 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 2: Really interesting moments here where we get to see how 455 00:24:55,920 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: much Agatha cares about what Billy thinks her and it 456 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: is very surprising, not something that I thought we would see. 457 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 3: But there's this moment. We get another moment when they're in. 458 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 2: The challenge, she seems to want to impress him, or 459 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 2: at least have him back in that space where he 460 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: was as teen where he was following her and acting 461 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 2: like what she thought was important. Also another great moment here, 462 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 2: very Sheeholk esque of the show having the conversation that 463 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,280 Speaker 2: fans have been having because from the very first episode 464 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: fans for like, has she walked the road? 465 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 3: Is this all hype? Is this part of her mythology? 466 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 2: Like last week when we didn't mention that she is 467 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 2: the original Jolene in the Dolly parton song Joline, Like, 468 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 2: what is true and what is not true about Agatha 469 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 2: is very fluid and I love that they knew we 470 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: would be asking that question, But yeah, Catherine hann absolutely 471 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: sells this moment of like, yeah, just heartbreak when Billy 472 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: says that she is no longer the witch he's looking 473 00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: up to. She is now just someone he has to 474 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: work with in order to achieve his aims. 475 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: They get inside and they find themselves as in previous 476 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: puzzles transformed. Billy is now dressed as Maleficent and Agatha 477 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: is the wicked Witch of the West. 478 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: Who she says she says it was based on me, 479 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 2: And again Billy turns around and he goes prove it, 480 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 2: and her face just. 481 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: Falls the puzzle is a terror reading have to find 482 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,840 Speaker 1: the right cards and place them in the right spots 483 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: on the spread. Billy starts to go first, he reads 484 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: an incorrect card, puts it increct card down, and a 485 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 1: sword and a sword falls from the ceiling. They look 486 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: up and the sword is just filled with blades. 487 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: Very fall it's very saw coded, very escape room. Very 488 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 2: actually kind of gives hell raiser as well. This is 489 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 2: not a good place to be. And those swords are falling. 490 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, they are falling. The next card is the Seven 491 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: of Swords reversed, which Billy inter it says, Agatha telling 492 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: the truth, but he says, that can't be right. He 493 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 1: places the card down. Next sword falls. Okay, Billy's not 494 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: doing so well. Agatha grabs the cards and is like, 495 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: let's just brute force this thing. Why are we sitting 496 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: here trying to find the right car Just like idea 497 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: not a terrible idea. Yeah, So she just starts brute 498 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: forcing it and putting it down until she's like, until 499 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: we find the right card in the right spot, and 500 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: Billy points out this is going to take a while. 501 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,400 Speaker 1: She's like, well, we got time. But then the ceiling 502 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: starts lowering, so that these blades are now soon enough 503 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: going to be pressing down into them, and Billy says, 504 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: I wish Lily is here. 505 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 3: Boom oh. 506 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: We cut to Lily waking up alongside Jen in the 507 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,160 Speaker 1: underground somewhere in some underground tunnel. They're covered in mud 508 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: after being flung into that swamp. But Billy Lilya clearly 509 00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: losing time again and she doesn't remember anything that she's 510 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: been saying to Jen. 511 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: Which. 512 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: Elucid It sounds like she's. 513 00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: Been having whole conversations that Jen is telling her about, 514 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 1: but that she does not recall. She doesn't recall, for instance, 515 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: telling Jen that Billy is the son of the Scarlet 516 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,400 Speaker 1: Witch and all this other stuff. Apparently Lilya also told 517 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: Jen that these memory slips might happen, And now we 518 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: flash through various time slips from the show that end 519 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: in a terror reading in Sicily or somewhere in Italy 520 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: during the Renaissance, and it is Lilia's very first lesson 521 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: in divination and she's sitting there across the table from 522 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 1: her teacher and she's like, I'm bad at this, I'm 523 00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: bad at reading tea lives. And the teacher says, I 524 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: think it's a great character moment and really just a 525 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: wonderful writing again, so good. The teacher says, why do 526 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: that's just something you tell yourself that you're not good 527 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: at it also when you're actually good at it. Just 528 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: read the leaves and what do you see. 529 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: I love that we get Lilia here as herself, as 530 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: the age she is now, and you get this understanding 531 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,840 Speaker 2: that okay, time is not what we think it is 532 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: and she can be both and has she. 533 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 3: Been here before? And has she not been here before? 534 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 2: And that is the big kind of central concy of 535 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 2: this really fantastic episode. 536 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: Her consciousness is traveling through two different versions, two different 537 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: timelines in her own body, right, so her teacher is 538 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 1: seeing her as a young woman, but inside she is 539 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Lilia from the current story that we are watching. 540 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: And her teacher is not surprised when she says how old, 541 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 2: if how long have you been? She says, you know, centuries. 542 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: We go back to the tunnels. Lilia is now feeling 543 00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: very sensitive and vulnerable about all these slips. She tells 544 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Jen that Okay, here's what's going on. Times and illusion. 545 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: I experience it out of sequence and now it's just 546 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,360 Speaker 1: getting worse. It's slipping beyond my control. And Jen says why, 547 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: and she says, I think it's because I'm close to 548 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: the end. We flashed to the sword room and Lilia 549 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,280 Speaker 1: is there with Jen, Billy, and Agatha, so we've clearly 550 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: jumped time. Now, Billy insists. They have this whole conversation 551 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: where Billy is just reading Lily's mind. He's responding to 552 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: her thoughts, saying like, no, I wasn't hiding my power 553 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: from you. No, what do you mean I didn't know 554 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: the first time. All these things that are questions that 555 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: go all the way back to their first meeting at 556 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: Will Caplan's bar Mitzvah. She remembers him from that night, and. 557 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 2: Jen interestingly is like, you're not mad at him anymore, 558 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: Like we've already gone over that, you're not angry at them. 559 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: She recalls now that she was reading Billy when something 560 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: went wrong, and she admits, I did cast the sigil 561 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: on you because I knew from seeing your broken lifeline 562 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: that I knew what was going to happen to you, 563 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 1: and I thought you needed time to process that, and 564 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: so I put the sigil on you to give you 565 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: that time. Now, the ceiling is starting to come down again, 566 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: and we flash through all of these time slips that 567 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: we've sween on the show, and. 568 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: We start to see how they fit together, whether it 569 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 2: is saying to you know, don't try to save Agatha 570 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 2: as she said to Alice, where we knew that that 571 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 2: meant that Alice would die, which was what happened. And 572 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 2: we start to get to see the way that the 573 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 2: show has been so cleverly written that there are multiple 574 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: instances of that, and some of them go throughout different parts, 575 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 2: different episodes and come together to create a singular sentence. 576 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 3: It's really really great stuff. 577 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 1: So she ends up back with her teacher again, back 578 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: in Renaissance Italy, and her teacher is asking her what's so, 579 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 1: what's your life like? 580 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 5: Now? 581 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 1: What are you doing? How's what's where are you with 582 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 1: your craft? Yeah? What's the co? Li is like, Oh, 583 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 1: I don't have one, And the teacher is very disappointed 584 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: and says, well, you know which needs one, and you're 585 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 1: too afraid. That's why you don't want to have one. 586 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: You should relinquish this desire to control everything and control 587 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: your visions and just look at them. And we're going 588 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: to look at a word from our sponsors and then 589 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: we're going to be back. 590 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, and we're back. 591 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: They flash from that flashback to the Lily's lessons with 592 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: her first divination teacher, back to the tunnels with Jen. 593 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: Lilya finds Billy's spellbook down there in the tunnels with them. 594 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: She tells Jen that initially, after experiencing these time slips 595 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,479 Speaker 1: when I was a young girl, they stopped and they 596 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: stopped it. I just ignored them. I didn't want to 597 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: engage with them. They scared me every time. You know, 598 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: they all end up at the same place. Yeah, people 599 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: I love dying, and so I just ignore them. 600 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: Also interesting here because that kind of sounds like an 601 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: acknowledgment that she was actually the one who pushed away 602 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: her own powers. And I think that's going to be 603 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 2: a thread here because we know that was the case 604 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 2: with Alice because she didn't believe. 605 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 3: We know that even missus Hart she didn't know she 606 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 3: was a witch. 607 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: And then with Jen, we'd already theorized that perhaps she 608 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 2: hadn't been bound at all, and her trauma after whatever 609 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: happened with the doctor had bound her own magic. So 610 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 2: I think that this is going to be a thread 611 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: that really it's about these women accepting their witchcraft and 612 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,880 Speaker 2: becoming the coven, becoming the Sisthood because Lili is apparently 613 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: the reason that she stopped having her own powers. And 614 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: I think it's just Patty does such a great job here. 615 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: It's so heartbreaking. 616 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: I mean, they could become the coven, but it's also 617 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 1: like there's so few of them left by. 618 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 3: The I don't think it, no, no, no. 619 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: I think that the coven is what has happened on 620 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 2: the way, The careal Coven was the friends we made 621 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:13,880 Speaker 2: along with whoever survives or whatever acceptance they find along 622 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,560 Speaker 2: the way is what allows them to kind of regain 623 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: their powers or gain acceptance with their fate or whatever happens. 624 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of the way that we're 625 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:22,759 Speaker 3: going to leave it. 626 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: So they're in the tunnels and they come to the 627 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: back of a bookshelf that leads to the. 628 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 6: Sword room, which, as Jen has, I wish and Jen 629 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 6: knew because Lily had told her, we need to find shelves, 630 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,799 Speaker 6: and they were like, what are you talking about, but 631 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 6: love and behold there were the shelves. 632 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 1: So they find that just as Billy says, I wish 633 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: Lilia is here, was here, and there she is they 634 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: fall through. Lilia immediately is like, I know what I 635 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: have to do now. I have to do the reading 636 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: on Billy. Okay, so everybody clear out and let me 637 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,279 Speaker 1: do this. Billy has to ask a question. It's got 638 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: to be the central question that he wants answered. That's 639 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: about why he wants to walk the road. And what 640 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: Billy wants to know is I'm William or am I Billy? 641 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: And she's like, that's a great question. The ceiling stops, 642 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 1: seeming to signify like this is the right attack to take. 643 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: She talks about the card spread. This is a card 644 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: spread about a journey, and it's going to tell us 645 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: them a lot about this journey. So she starts laying 646 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 1: the cards down. The first card is the Magician, telling 647 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: us that Billy has enormous power he can affect reality. 648 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: The next card is the Sun Reunion and good fortune. 649 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: This really resonates with Billy. The next is Uh. She 650 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 1: pulls the High Priestess, which relates to Jen. She pulls 651 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: she's about to pull the card for the path behind 652 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: card slot, but she pulls the wrong card apparently, and 653 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,799 Speaker 1: the sword that is directly above her seat begins to 654 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: fall on her and I think Agatha, though we don't 655 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 1: really see it, Agatha saves her life. 656 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 2: We see earlier on in a flash forward as the 657 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,719 Speaker 2: time I mean why meaness happens the Agatha is It 658 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 2: seems like she's the one who pushed her and saved 659 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 2: her from this death, which is very un Agatha of her. 660 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 3: But of course she needs Lilia to survive this trial. 661 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: So we flash back again through various moments of time 662 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: slips that we've seen Lila experience, and then we end 663 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: up back with the teacher, who asks why are you 664 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 1: on this journey? And Lilia says, to get my power back, 665 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: and then the teacher's like, but you have your power, 666 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 1: it never went anywhere, Like no, why are you really 667 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: on the journey? And then she says, I'm forgotten woman. 668 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: She's sad, apparently that all her visions have never led 669 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: to anything different happening. She saw that her coven was 670 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: going to die and she couldn't change it. She saw 671 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: that her teacher was going to die and nothing happened. 672 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,359 Speaker 1: The teacher says, well, you know, death is the thing 673 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,800 Speaker 1: that waits for us all. 674 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 3: It's the one thing we all have in common. 675 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,440 Speaker 1: I love that it's the one thing we all have 676 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,279 Speaker 1: in common, then she said, And so Lily is like, 677 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: when when is my death? She sees that she will 678 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: fall that much she knows, and then all of a 679 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: sudden she knows what she has to do, and she 680 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: has this moment of clarity where she remembers everything. So 681 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: they're back in the beginning of the tunnel. The Seven 682 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: are behind them. They have to hide from the Seven 683 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 1: at a certain point, and here they are at this 684 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: crossroads in the tunnel and Jen wants to leave, but 685 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,239 Speaker 1: Lily says, I need you to come with me to 686 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: help Billy and Agatha to the trial. I'm going to 687 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:26,200 Speaker 1: go there. I would like you to come with me. 688 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: And Jenna's like, why do you want me to come 689 00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 1: with you, and she says, because you are my sister 690 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 1: in the craft kind of begrudgingly agrees, but before Lila 691 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:39,000 Speaker 1: can follow her, she goes, I know what I did wrong, 692 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: and then she turns around and boom, she's back in 693 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 1: the sword room. So she ends up back in the room. 694 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: She now knows what she's doing wrong, and she's not 695 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: reading for Billy, she's reading for herself. She starts pulling cards. 696 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:55,799 Speaker 1: Queen of Cups and her teacher is immediately proud of 697 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: this revelation. She understands now that she needs to be 698 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: sessing her own life future. The ceiling meanwhile, is coming down. 699 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: It's still continuing to fall. What's missing the Three of 700 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,879 Speaker 1: Pentacles collaboration. She's missing the coven. She pulls the card 701 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: for the path behind the Night of Wands. She sees 702 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: Alice and the brave fight and sacrifice that she made. 703 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: Once again, an Asian character dying first will get that's 704 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: small note, but don't worry about it. The path ahead 705 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,000 Speaker 1: space she pulls the card now is high Priestess, the 706 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: immense power, unwilling to use it, and this is clearly 707 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: for Jet. The next space is obstacles, the Three of Swords, sorrow, 708 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: the windfall that now here is the tower reversed, miraculous transformation, 709 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden she arrives back at the 710 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: beginning of the tunnel, right when they are after they 711 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,480 Speaker 1: are thrown into the swamp and find themselves in the tunnel. 712 00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: Jen is out of it. She's not awake yet. Lilia 713 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: is coming to and she sees a hooded figure approach 714 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: and it's Rio, and she realized that Rio is death. 715 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 3: Ay there she is sorry. 716 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 2: Sorry to all the people who are spoiled by this 717 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 2: by the Funko Pop release, I feel like they did 718 00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: not do a great job with that one, because this 719 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,839 Speaker 2: would be a huge, huge moment. I will say, love 720 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,080 Speaker 2: the flashback to all the different times that they were 721 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 2: obviously signpointing us this way, Reo writing death when they 722 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: were on the Ouiji board, and her hilarious laugh, the 723 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,560 Speaker 2: fact that she crawled out of the ground like a 724 00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 2: zombie after missus Hart died. 725 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 3: I love this casting. I love Aubrey Plaza as death. 726 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 2: I think this probably hints that will get some kind 727 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,479 Speaker 2: of maybe return of Thanos. Though, I will say something 728 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 2: very interesting. 729 00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 3: I get it, Yeah, I get it right. I'm like, 730 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 3: I would do it, babe. You know what, there's not 731 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 3: enough balance, don't care about that. 732 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,320 Speaker 2: Would I kill half of the population of the universe 733 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 2: for Aubrey Plaza as death. Yes, that is a reason 734 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: I can get behind. I will say though, during the 735 00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 2: early episodes of the season, there was really interesting stuff 736 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 2: where Agatha was saying, you know, my mom wanted to 737 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 2: kill me when I was a baby. She said she 738 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 2: always knew she was I was evil. That is actually 739 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 2: very akin to some of the early stuff we've seen 740 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: from the late of Thanos books where they're showing his 741 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: life as a baby. I thought that was very interesting. 742 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: Maybe there's a world where Agatha will become the Fanos 743 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 2: love interest. But I also think we could see a 744 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,279 Speaker 2: world where Thanos comes back for death, because let's be real, 745 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 2: who wouldn't. 746 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 3: She's so beautiful. I love her. 747 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 2: This was a great reveal, Aubrey, you will be in 748 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,439 Speaker 2: the MCU forever. They will never get rid of you. Now, 749 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:31,800 Speaker 2: this is fantastic costing. 750 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: In the sword room, Lilia is frozen up, experiencing this 751 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,279 Speaker 1: time slip with the last card, the death card, in 752 00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: her hand. Agatha seizes the card from her hand, slams 753 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: it down on the last open slot and that's it. 754 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: Puzzle solved. The sword ceiling stops and the door pops open. 755 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 1: They are able to leave. Lilia tells them that hey, 756 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:57,439 Speaker 1: guess what Rio is death the original Green Witch. That's 757 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 1: what Agatha has not been willing to tell us. 758 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,799 Speaker 3: And I was like, yeah, what can I say? 759 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 2: I like the bad Boys. Oh my god, she's just 760 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: too much Matt. Okay, momentary pause. Does this mean we 761 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 2: already heard Nick? Scratcher's voice calling for Agatha during the 762 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 2: teen slasher movie Trial is and at one point we 763 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 2: heard Rio say, oh, my Scar, is this person that 764 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 2: I love to I hurt by having to do my job? 765 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 3: Does that mean Nick is dead? 766 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 2: And Rio reaped Nick and that is why her and 767 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,879 Speaker 2: Agatha fell out? 768 00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think so. 769 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:43,000 Speaker 1: So Now the Seven sadly are approaching and Lilia gives 770 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: Billy his book back. She shepherds everybody, Agatha and Jen 771 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: through the exit. She last, she says to Jen, Jen 772 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,440 Speaker 1: is the last one through, and she's like, I loved 773 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: being a witch. And Jen knows in this moment that now. 774 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: And she says you're the future. She's like, you're the 775 00:41:58,600 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 2: path ahead, you have to go. 776 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: She now knows that Lila's going to sacrifice herself. He 777 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,719 Speaker 1: tries to stop her, but Lilya slams the door. The 778 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: Seven arrive and lily says, well, once you have solved 779 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,240 Speaker 1: a trial on the road, you are filled with power 780 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: and one doesn't know what could happen with. 781 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 2: That, and if you stay too long in the trial 782 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 2: death destruction, something bad will happen. 783 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: And so she grabs the tower reverse card and she 784 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,440 Speaker 1: flips it right side up the tower. The tower that 785 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: they are in flips over so that everybody towards the ceiling, 786 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,400 Speaker 1: which is filled with swords. The seven are all impaled 787 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: on the swords, and we must imagine that Lilia is 788 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: as well, because she. 789 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,680 Speaker 2: Lets go of the what she's holding onto to keep 790 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:58,160 Speaker 2: us safe. 791 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: So we don't see her actually die, but we see 792 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: her as a young girl once again, going to her 793 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,840 Speaker 1: lesson with her first divination teacher, and the teacher says, 794 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: let us begin. 795 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 3: Mm hmm, I love that. I mean I was crying 796 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,680 Speaker 3: by the end, like absolutely. 797 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,800 Speaker 1: Incredible episode, just like a really perfect episode. 798 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 3: The editing. 799 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: Is all the pieces fitting like that is just so sad. 800 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 2: I feel like they did such a good job of 801 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,799 Speaker 2: like handholding us enough to be like, hey, you watch 802 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,200 Speaker 2: a lot of stuff on TV, so hare is why 803 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 2: these moments and these words meant something. 804 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000 Speaker 3: But it never felt too much. 805 00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: It was always an emotional beat when you realized what 806 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,680 Speaker 2: she'd been trying to say the whole time. 807 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 1: To your point, you could have compiled all the time 808 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: slip moments before this episode and put them together and 809 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:54,920 Speaker 1: looked at them, and while obviously they were significant of something, 810 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: you could not have gotten to this no, and that 811 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 1: I think was part of why it was so powerful. 812 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 1: Just an incredible episode. Lapone is so good. 813 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 3: Give her an Emmy, Give her an Emmy. 814 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,880 Speaker 1: Just as good as it gets for Marvel on Disney. 815 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 1: Plus absolutely, I can't wait to see the finale. 816 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, me too, Rosie. 817 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: This certainly felt like the Seven are done right, and 818 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: so I don't know what the big antagonist is gonna 819 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 1: be for the finale. 820 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 2: I find this really interesting because the Salem Seven in 821 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 2: the comics. Obviously I am a passionate Salem Seven love 822 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,480 Speaker 2: because they're like very weird, niche characters, very different. I 823 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 2: love the horror version they did here. But it really 824 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: does feel like they're done. I think in the notes 825 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: one of our. 826 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 3: Super producers caught that maybe it seems like only. 827 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 2: Five of them got killed in the Swords, not seven, 828 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 2: So there's something interesting there. 829 00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,879 Speaker 3: But who is the big antagonist? 830 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,319 Speaker 2: Okay, so we had said earlier, you know Billy kind 831 00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 2: of has a dark side coded vibe. Is that a 832 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:58,320 Speaker 2: possibility that we're gonna reveal that somehow he is willing 833 00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,680 Speaker 2: to sacrifice Agatha? And though I have to say my 834 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 2: got off the seeing the cords that lillopuld is that 835 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 2: Jen is going to probably end up as Billy's mentor 836 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 2: after this. That was the feeling I was getting. The 837 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 2: immense power the two of them together is the big 838 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 2: bad Death is the big bad Rio? 839 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,640 Speaker 3: Is she coming to get them because. 840 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 2: Billy did cheat death by taking over William's body. 841 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 1: I think that's a good read. I will say that 842 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 1: I do think the seven are done for this and 843 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:41,480 Speaker 1: this is cheating for the simple reason that, like, they 844 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: never had a line, none of them ever spoke a line, 845 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,920 Speaker 1: So it doesn't make it like I think that they 846 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:53,439 Speaker 1: are truly done. Ye, it was never a moment where 847 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 1: they said anything, but that's like not really a speaking line, 848 00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: So I think they are truly gone. I do. I 849 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: do think that Rio is a good read. I also 850 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:11,040 Speaker 1: think that whoever forced Jen off the path scared her 851 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,560 Speaker 1: away from the life of a witch is gonna be 852 00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: clearly is going to be the final trial right. 853 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 2: Oh right, It's gonna be the creepy doctor kind of likely, 854 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 2: which could be very horror. 855 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 3: I'm very interested too. 856 00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:28,320 Speaker 2: Now, this is obviously just great timing because the finale 857 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 2: episodes are gonna drop on the day before Halloween. On 858 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 2: the thirtieth of October. But I am interested that they 859 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: decided to put them both together. I want to know 860 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 2: what that means. Okay, other finale questions I have, will 861 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 2: we see Tommy? Will Billy get what he wants at 862 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 2: the end of the road. 863 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: No, I don't think he will truly get him unless 864 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: they do a thing where they get him and then 865 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: they recast for real Tommy that they're gonna use. 866 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,680 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good point, because we haven't had 867 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 2: any costumes. 868 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 1: Oh, we haven't heard anything. Again, that's cheating. 869 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 2: But of Elizabeth Olsen showing up in the final episodes. 870 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,879 Speaker 1: I would put it in at sixty forty Okay, yeah, 871 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: I'm sixty four forty against. I also kind of feel 872 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: like I've been anti I've been the person pumping the 873 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: brakes on Mephisto for you, we both have. 874 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been asto enabler, and yet here you h. 875 00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,680 Speaker 1: I now feel like it's at least in the realm 876 00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:37,000 Speaker 1: of possibility that whoever creepy doctor is is Mephisto related. Yeah, 877 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: is that the case we're gonna find out? But I 878 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:41,360 Speaker 1: think that that's. 879 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,560 Speaker 3: Un going down the witches road. 880 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 2: How it's changed you, Jason, how it's changed you now. 881 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,919 Speaker 3: You're in the Mephisto stuff. But yeah, absolutely cannot wait. 882 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:56,080 Speaker 2: What unbelievably spectacular kind of penultimate I understand now. After 883 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:58,680 Speaker 2: last week's episode, I was like, wow, how could this 884 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 2: not be everyone's favorite episode? And every cast member was like, no, 885 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,719 Speaker 2: it's episode seven, Episode seven, Episode seven, and I totally understand. 886 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,400 Speaker 3: Also, let's talk about, just before we go. 887 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 2: The ultimate troll needle drop of using Time in a Bottle, which. 888 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 3: Was obviously famously the song that. 889 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 2: That Evan Peters Quicksilver did his incredible speeds to scene 890 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 2: two in Days of Future Past in the Fox Universe. 891 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 2: That was so much fun when they dropped it, because 892 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,680 Speaker 2: it's also perfect for this episode. 893 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,920 Speaker 1: It's perfect for this episode for Lilia, who experiences time 894 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: in the bottle that is her life exactly. I can't 895 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:43,640 Speaker 1: wait to see where this finale. And Jack Schaeffer round 896 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: of applause. You've done it. 897 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we were right because we said this from 898 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 2: episode one. But I'm like, let Jack Schaefer run the 899 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:51,600 Speaker 2: MCU now please. 900 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 3: Everyone else has had their turn. 901 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:57,239 Speaker 2: Let Jack Shaefer and her crew on this her producer, 902 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,479 Speaker 2: her creative teams, let's let's have them at. 903 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,040 Speaker 3: Least do some pitches. Guys. I want to know. Also, 904 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,360 Speaker 3: I want to see what they would do with the movies. Jack, 905 00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,240 Speaker 3: I'm interested. I want to know you got a juice baby. 906 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 2: This is the cheapest Disney Plus show that they've done, 907 00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,160 Speaker 2: and yet we're getting some of the best episodes we've 908 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,239 Speaker 2: ever seen, So I'm interested. 909 00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 1: On tomorrow's episode of X ray Vision, the extras crew 910 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: is back. X Gonna give It to You and what 911 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: they're gonna give it to you is more arcade. 912 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,800 Speaker 4: And on Thursday, Rosie and I celebrate HALLOWEENO, the rundown 913 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,960 Speaker 4: of our favorite. 914 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: Horror films from the nineties and two thousand. That's it 915 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: for this episode. Thanks for listening, Bye. 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