1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Coblt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 2: Welcome again as we continue covering the plane crash in Washington, 4 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: d C yesterday. You can follow us at John Cobelt 5 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 2: Radio on all social media. And next person we want 6 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: to talk to is Emma James. She's a writer for 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 2: the Daily Mail and she landed at Reagan Airport on 8 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: a flight from Kansas City just minutes before the crash happened, 9 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 2: and she saw the flashing red lights and ambulances just 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 2: I guess as soon as she got into the terminal. 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Let's talk to Emma James for her story. Emma, thanks 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: for coming on. 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 3: Hi John, Thanks thanks for having me so. 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Tell us what happened last night. 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 2: You landed, The winds were strong, the landing was a 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: little bumpy. 17 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: Talk about what you went through. 18 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,760 Speaker 3: My colleague and I have obviously traveled to DCA fairly 19 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 3: often for work and it can be fairly bumpy at 20 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 3: the best of times. But the captain did sort of 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 3: make us aware that it was going to be windier 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: than usual and there may be some issues and turbulance 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,919 Speaker 3: on landing. Our flight was fine. There was no real issues. 24 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 3: It was slightly bumpy, but basically I think ten minutes 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 3: as soon as we got into the terminal, there was 26 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: just a sudden sort of flurry of activity, a lot 27 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 3: of ambulances, a lot of fire, and least just on 28 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 3: the tarmac heading towards the river. And I think initially 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 3: we both thought there may have been sort of a 30 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: minor incident with an aircraft or a medical incident, But 31 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: then another sort of flurry came through and it became 32 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: fairly obvious that there was something else going on. 33 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: And how did it develop? Like how much could you 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: actually see? 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: So we couldn't see. It was dark by the time 36 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 3: this is all happening, so it's mostly just the lights 37 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 3: of the emergency services and these helicopters looking over the river. 38 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 3: It was just sort of a line of red along 39 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 3: the road and that then spread onto the river. You 40 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: could see bits and pieces and slashes. You couldn't really 41 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 3: see exactly what was going on, but the police helicopters 42 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 3: were just circling trying to light up the water to 43 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: see if they could see anything. And obviously within the 44 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 3: terminal there wasn't a lot of activity at first to 45 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 3: be honest, I think no one was quite aware of 46 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 3: what was going on, and even if they were, they 47 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: didn't want to cause any panic for passengers waiting for 48 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: flights or waiting to take off. 49 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: When did it think in that the worst had happened. 50 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 3: I think it sunk in after we got an alert 51 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 3: to say that all of the flights were grounded, and 52 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: that was the moment I think everyone's like, something is 53 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: seriously wrong here. And everyone then started talking about a 54 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 3: smaller aircraft which had potentially been hit by a police helicopter. 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 3: And obviously it sunk in a lot further as soon 56 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: as it came to be that it was an American 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: Airlines flight, because it's just a lot more people that 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 3: are potentially involved. And then when it was confirmed that 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 3: it was an Army black Hawk helicopter, again sort of 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: everything heightened a little bit more just because of the 61 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 3: level of intensity of the situation. It was a lot 62 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 3: more people, a lot more damaging than we initially thought. 63 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, and what did you do? 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 2: Then you got a news story that literally fell from 65 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: the sky in front of you. 66 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean my colleague and I had to stay 67 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 3: in the terminal for about an hour just because there 68 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: wasn't exactly any guidance on whether we could get out 69 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: the safety wise, and then eventually when we were allowed 70 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 3: out of the terminal, we just had to go to 71 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 3: a hotel and start reporting from there really on what 72 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 3: we saw and what happened, because you couldn't get close 73 00:03:57,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 3: enough to the scene to really speak to anybody else. 74 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 3: We obviously spoke to other passengers, but everybody else was 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 3: sort of as in shocks a little bit as we were. 76 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: You know, reporting on this kind of thing gives you 77 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: a little bit of a harder skin, but not when it, 78 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: as you said, literally falls from the sky into your lap. 79 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Did you land on the same runway or another part 80 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: of the year. 81 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 3: I believe we landed on the other side of the airports. 82 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: We didn't land on that exact runway. 83 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: Right, because I was wondering how close it would have 84 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: been for your plane to get hit. 85 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 4: You know, I was. 86 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,320 Speaker 2: Really amazing this plane that crashed. All it had to 87 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 2: do was cross the Potomac River. It was seconds away 88 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: from landing, and it was I. 89 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: Just I feel so sorry for those people that were 90 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: on that plane, simply because you can see everything when 91 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 3: you land a DCA, you can see the runway, you 92 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 3: can see the river. It's actually you know, a thing 93 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 3: to a sight to behold when nothing goes wrong. But 94 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: it's also has been shown it's a dangerous airport. You know, 95 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 3: there's no real safety around the water. There's nothing to 96 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 3: prevent anything like that from happening, as it were. 97 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's short runway, the one that they landed on. 98 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 2: It's about seven thousand feet and normally runways are thirteen 99 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 2: thousand feet. But this airport, Washington, DC, grew up around 100 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: at the airport's many decades old, and it wasn't designed 101 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 2: for these huge jets, and it wasn't designed for all 102 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: this traffic that it does get now because they have 103 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 2: filled every available slot with a plane either landing or 104 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 2: lifting off. 105 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I believe that recently they added I think 106 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: it was five more slots. I'm not entirely clear on 107 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 3: which airline it was, but it become even more, even 108 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 3: more busy, and I you know, I think that's probably 109 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: got to be part of the investigation as to whether 110 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 3: there should be they should have been added. I'm not 111 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 3: saying that that was, you know, something that caused this, 112 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 3: but for sure it's a much busier airport than I 113 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 3: think anyone probably realizes until something like this happens. 114 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: When you walk up this morning, emotionally, how did you feel? 115 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: People have said they felt relieved, they felt guilty. 116 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: So I definitely think I felt relieved. But there's also 117 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: the aspect of you feel relief and then you know, 118 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 3: just a few minutes later, you feel guilty because as 119 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 3: much as you're happy to still be here and be 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 3: alive and have the whole I'm glad it wasn't me 121 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 3: thought process. There's still the sixty seven other people that 122 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 3: did lose their lives, and they have families and loved 123 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 3: ones that they're never going to see again. That they 124 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 3: were texting as they thought they were touching down to 125 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 3: say they arrived space, and you know, you never want 126 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: to be in that position, and you know saying, God, 127 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 3: I wasn't, but I, you know, feel very guilty for 128 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:55,119 Speaker 3: not having them as your initial first thought. 129 00:06:55,320 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 2: But I would have felt exactly the same way. Emma 130 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: James us, senior reporter for the Dailymail dot Com. Thank 131 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: you for coming on with us. 132 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 3: Thanks John, Have a good day. 133 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: All right, Emma James. There, now we come back. Trump 134 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 2: went off at his press conference this morning. This is 135 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: the first one that was running, I guess probably about 136 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: eight thirty our time. And because he was he was willing, 137 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 2: willing to blame, willing to say that the crash was 138 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: somebody's fault, and eventually he blamed a DEI, which had 139 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 2: the reporters go into a tizzy. 140 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: We've got several Trump clips. 141 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 2: But as usual, while the reporters were chasing their own 142 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: tails on, it turns out that, Yeah, the FAA decided 143 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: during the Biden years to hire base based on diversity, equity, 144 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: and inclusion, and they rejected a lot of qualified candidates 145 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 2: in favor. And I'm not making this up, and I 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: want to tease this. They actually had in writing that 147 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: they were going to favor people who were physically paralyzed, 148 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: who had severe into severe intellectual. 149 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Problems and. 150 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: Serious emotional problems, serious psychiatric problems. 151 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: You believe this, No intellectual. 152 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: Problems, psychiatric problems, and paralysis issues. That they were going 153 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 2: to be favored in the hiring process at the FAA. 154 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: And this is what he was talking about. We'll tell 155 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: you about it next. You're shaking your head. Is all 156 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 1: you can do is grunt. I mean, there's well to 157 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: give you all the details. 158 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: It's it's stunning, but it's from an actual lawsuit brought 159 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 2: by the people who've been rejected from jobs at the FAA, 160 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 2: and they finally blew the whistle on what the hiring 161 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: practices were, which were in writing, man, I can. 162 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 3: Get a job with the FAA, right, I can work for. 163 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 1: The TSA too. 164 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: You could be well, anybody can work for the TSA, 165 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 2: but I could see you waving down planes. 166 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, you're. 167 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 5: Listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM six forty. 168 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 2: Trump held a press conference and immediately said this crash 169 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 2: was could have been preventable. So did the Secretary of 170 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 2: State say that they had the Secretary of Transportation and 171 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: all the guys who just got hired in the last 172 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 2: few days suddenly had their first big crisis. And they 173 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 2: were very quick to say this no way they should 174 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:36,160 Speaker 2: have happened. This wasn't some kind of act of God 175 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: situation here. And this gave Trump an opportunity which baffled 176 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:48,400 Speaker 2: the reporters. He started talking about the absurd DEI requirements 177 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,679 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden and Obama and Pete Bootage Edge as 178 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 2: the Transportation Secretary, had instituted over the years, and all 179 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: the reporters are going, what what was the I have 180 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 2: to do with this? I don't get it. And the 181 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 2: thing is it d I may or may not have 182 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: had anything to do with this crash. But Trump knew 183 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 2: that there was a lot of bad stuff in the 184 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: FA hiring policies. He had just written in an executive 185 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: order rescinding it, and he knew this was the moment 186 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,559 Speaker 2: to bring it up because this is when people would 187 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 2: notice and care about it. And it's the same thing 188 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: I told you about the fires, pointing out how Karen 189 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: Bass or the fire chief or Newsome screwed up. And 190 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: some people go, well, it's just too soon. I mean, 191 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: it's just happened. It's like no, you start noticing it 192 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 2: and detailing it, documenting it immediately because that's when people care. 193 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: And then after that the emotion drains. People's attention spans drift, 194 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: memories start to fade, and it's just human nature. People 195 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 2: lose interest, they stop caring. Everyone should care deeply. Any organization, 196 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: any government that doesn't hire the best and brightest based 197 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: on merit, anything else, your company, the government, the military 198 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: is going to suffer and sometimes tragically, and Trump knew 199 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 2: he had a moment. Well, we've got several cuts. We'll 200 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: start with the cut number two, and he talks about 201 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 2: having the highest standards for air traffic controllers. 202 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 6: We must have only the highest standards for those who 203 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 6: work in our aviation system. I changed the Obama standards 204 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 6: from very mediocre at best to extraordinary. Do you remember 205 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 6: that only the highest aptitude, they have to be the 206 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 6: highest intellect and psychologically superior people were allowed to qualify 207 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 6: for air traffic controllers. 208 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: That was not so prior to getting there. 209 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 6: When I arrived in twenty sixteen. 210 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 4: I made that change very early on because. 211 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 6: I always felt this was a job that and other jobs, 212 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 6: but this was a job that had to be superior 213 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 6: intelligence and we didn't. 214 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 4: Really have that. And we had it, and then when I. 215 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 6: Left office and Biden took over, he changed them back 216 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 6: to lower than ever before. I put safety first. Obama, 217 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 6: Biden and the Democrats put policy first. Then they put 218 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 6: politics at a level that nobody's ever seen. 219 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 4: Because this was the lowest level. 220 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 6: Their policy was horrible and their politics was even worse. 221 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 4: So, as you know, last. 222 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 6: Week, long before the crash, I signed an executive order 223 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 6: restoring our highest standards for air traffic controllers and other 224 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 6: important jobs throughout the country. 225 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: So it was very interesting. 226 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 6: About a week ago, almost upon entering office, I signed 227 00:12:55,640 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 6: something last week that was an executive order, very powerful 228 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 6: and restoring the highest standards of air traffic controllers and others. 229 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,959 Speaker 4: By the way, all right, we get done, amis. 230 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: So here's the thing. This is part of a lawsuit. 231 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 2: You had hundreds, maybe over one thousand air traffic controllers. 232 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 2: They were what would be air traffic controllers who couldn't 233 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 2: get a job. 234 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: Because this was actually in a. 235 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,839 Speaker 2: Memo, a government memo, the applicant pool was too white. 236 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: They were hiring based on someone's skin color and declaring 237 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: the whole pool too white, and people were getting rejected 238 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: because of the color of their skin. Here's a piece 239 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: out of a lawsuit. From nineteen eighty nine to twenty thirteen, 240 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: the Collegiate Training Initiative Program was a pipeline to a 241 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 2: career in air traffic control. The program aimed to ensure 242 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: air traffic controllers had the skills and knowledge necessary to 243 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 2: carry out the job. More than ten years ago, the 244 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 2: Obama administration scrapped one thousand qualified candidates. 245 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: This is from the lawsuit. The administration's justification was. 246 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: The pool of applicants was not diverse enough, so they 247 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: would be purged from consideration. Instead of hiring candidates with 248 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: the most competency, individuals were elevated for hiring consideration based 249 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 2: on their race. Our law seat seeks justice for all 250 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: the air traffic controllers who chose this career, dedicated their 251 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 2: lives in education, and were summarily denied a job for 252 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: no other reason than the color of their skin. In 253 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: a system with only fourteen thousand air traffic controllers, purging 254 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 2: a thousand of the next generation's best and brightest was 255 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: irresponsible and unsustainable. Now we come back, I'm going to 256 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: place some more of Trump's comments and I'm going to 257 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 2: read to you. In the executive order, it specifically says 258 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 2: that the FAA was hiring people with severe intellectual disabilities, 259 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: psychiatric issues, and complete paralysis, while tossing out one thousand 260 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 2: qualified would be air traffic controllers who graduated from the 261 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: program but were the wrong skin color. 262 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: More coming up. 263 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 264 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 5: six forty. 265 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 2: We're on from one until four after four o'clock. John 266 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 2: Cobelt's show on demand on the iHeart app. If you 267 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 2: will talk to one hundred people on the street and 268 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: you asked them, hey, do you want air traffic controllers 269 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 2: to be hired based on how they perform on all 270 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: the testing that they get after taking the required training courses, 271 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 2: or would you like them to be hired based on 272 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 2: whether they had a disability or not, or the color 273 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: of their skin, or if should they get preferential treatment 274 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 2: because they have a lower measured intellectual level, Should they 275 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 2: be hired because they have a psychiatric disorder? Should they 276 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: be hired because they can't move their body they're paralyzed 277 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: in some way. 278 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm not making this up. 279 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 2: Under the Biden administration, with Pete Boota, Jeg's trans transportation director, 280 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: a thousand healthy in minded body air traffic control candidates 281 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: were rejected because of the color of their skin and 282 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 2: because they weren't diverse enough. They were mostly too white, 283 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: they were not diverse, and what they were looking for 284 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: as people with serious intellectual impairments. And this is in 285 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 2: writing and psychiatric issues and paralysis issues. I'm going to 286 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 2: read you the exact quote in just a minute. But 287 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 2: Trump discussed this in his press conference this morning. Play 288 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,119 Speaker 2: cut number three. 289 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 6: I do want to point out that various articles that 290 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,479 Speaker 6: appeared prior to my entering office. 291 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 4: And here's one. 292 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 6: The FAA's diversity push includes focus on hiring people with 293 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 6: severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities. 294 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 4: That is amazing. And then it says. 295 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 6: FAA says people with severe disabilities a most underrepresented segment 296 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 6: of the workforce. 297 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: And they want them in and they want them they 298 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: can be air traffic controllers. I don't think so. 299 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: This was. 300 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 6: In January fourteen, so that was a week before I 301 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 6: entered office. They put a big push to put diversity 302 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 6: into the FAA's program. Then another article the Federal Aviation Administration. 303 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 4: This was before I got to office. 304 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 6: Recently, second term, the FAA is actively recruiting workers who 305 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 6: suffer severe intellectual disabilities, psychiatric problems, and other mental and 306 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:34,439 Speaker 6: physical conditions under a diversity and inclusion hiring initiative spelled 307 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 6: out on the agency's website. Can you imagine these are 308 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 6: people that are I mean, actually their lives are shortened. 309 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 4: Because of the stress that they have. 310 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 6: Brilliant people have to be in those positions and their 311 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 6: lives are actually shortened very substantially. 312 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 4: Shortened because of the stress. 313 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 6: Where you have many, many planes coming into one target 314 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 6: and you need a very special talent and a very 315 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 6: special genius to be able to do it. Targeted disabilities 316 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 6: are those disabilities that the federal government, as a matter 317 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 6: of policy, has identified for special emphasis and recruitment and hiring. 318 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 6: The FAA's website states they include hearing, vision, missing extremities, 319 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 6: partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability, psychiatric disability, 320 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 6: and dwarfism. All qualify work for the position of a 321 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 6: controller of aeroplanes pouring into our country, pouring into a 322 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 6: little spot, a little dot on the map, a little runway. 323 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 6: The initiative is part of the faas Diversity and Inclusion 324 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 6: Hiring Plan. 325 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 4: Think of that. 326 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 6: The initiative is part of the FAA's Diversity and Inclusion 327 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,920 Speaker 6: Hiring Plan, which says diversity is integral to achieving FAA's 328 00:19:57,960 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 6: mission of ensuring safe and efficient. 329 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I don't think so. I don't think so. 330 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 4: I think it's just the opposite. 331 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,560 Speaker 1: This is the truth. 332 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: This actually was the Biden Bootage edge Dei memorandum. 333 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: This really was going on. 334 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,280 Speaker 2: Some of you may be wondering what has been all 335 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: the screaming about DEI really been over. 336 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: And it's over this stuff. 337 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: It's permeated every government department, every university, most major corporations. 338 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: This stuff is everywhere like a plague, like a cancer. 339 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 2: And then going back to the lawsuit which spawned this 340 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:46,920 Speaker 2: particular story, a thousand candidates were purged from consideration because 341 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 2: their pool was not diverse enough. 342 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: This is insanity. 343 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 2: Diversity was supposed to be about finding qualified candidates who 344 00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: might ordinarily be overlooked for one res or another, that 345 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: they were qualified and you want to add them to 346 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: the list. They just weren't in the normal places or 347 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 2: had the normal opportunities to apply for these jobs, and 348 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: that you went out of your way to make sure 349 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: that those candidates who may not have had access to 350 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 2: apply and present themselves for this kind of work can 351 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: do so. And nobody argued with that. But this was 352 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 2: about well you saw it. I mean, Biden had a 353 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 2: guy in red dress, red heels, and lipstick running some 354 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 2: nuclear waste storage agency. He had the highest nuclear security clearance. 355 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 2: You remember that guy slickballed red dress, red lipstick, and 356 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 2: he was the guy stealing luggage several times at airports. 357 00:21:55,840 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: He was stealing luggage right off the carousel. He was insane. 358 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: Of course, he checked many many boxes. He checked just 359 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: about all the d. 360 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: E boxes because he had a severe psychiatric disorder. I 361 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: don't know why he wasn't on duty last night trying 362 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: to land those planes. 363 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 1: What this has been going on for ten years? 364 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 2: Can you imagine what's working inside the government, what's working 365 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: inside some of these control towers. I mean, we've seen 366 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: the TSA agents. Holy moly. 367 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, most of the time they look like they're not 368 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: paying attention. I always worry about. 369 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: That because they're not paying attention because they can't get fired. 370 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 1: Nobody gets fired. They're the ones that are looking for 371 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: bombs in our suitcases. They're supposed to be looking for bombs. 372 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's now they're hoping like ten percent of the 373 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 2: workforce takes the buyout and leaves, and that's going to 374 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 2: save US one hundred billion dollars. And do you know, 375 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 2: I bet you when they finally get rid of hundreds 376 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: of thousands of workers who take the buy out, nobody 377 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: notices the difference. 378 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:13,199 Speaker 1: Do you know the. 379 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 2: Government hires two to three hundred thousand people a year. 380 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 2: They do imagine a year ago today there were two 381 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 2: at least two hundred thousand fewer federal employees. 382 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: What have they been doing for the last year? How 383 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: is life better? 384 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 2: So you take them away and this is some kind 385 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 2: of terrible disaster? How many of them fit? All these 386 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: absurd characters? How many people with severe psychiatric issues were 387 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 2: actually recruited by the federal government and put in various departments. 388 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure I talked to a few of these people, 389 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: whatever you call the government. 390 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: All Right, more coming up. 391 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 392 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 5: six forty. 393 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: On every day from one until four o'clock. We've got 394 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 2: so much still to do. After Debra's news at three o'clock, 395 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 2: we're going to talk with Aary Friedman. He's an attorney 396 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 2: of partner at Wisner Baum and they are behind a 397 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 2: lawsuit in La County Court against Southern California Edison, saying 398 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 2: so Cal Edison is substantially to blame for the Alta 399 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 2: Dina fire, the Eton fire because of neglect, mismanagement, and 400 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 2: repeated failures to address known risks of its aging, dangerous 401 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: infrastructure despite repeated warnings. And we'll talk about it because 402 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: this is an old story PG and E and Southern 403 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: California Edison and the other utilities have been chased around 404 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 2: and fined and sued and taken to criminal court, and 405 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 2: they always lose. They always end up paying enormous amounts money, 406 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: or should I say either taxpayers or ratepayers end up 407 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: paying enormous amounts of money. And these guys never ever 408 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 2: change their policies. Never, They just keep getting sued, they 409 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: keep making payouts, We keep bailing them out. It is 410 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 2: another it's another circular insanity because so Cal Edison doesn't 411 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: maintain its infrastructure the way LA City and La County 412 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 2: doesn't maintain its infrastructure and finance its its fire and 413 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: police departments, the way the federal government doesn't. 414 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: Doesn't fund its. 415 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: Air traffic controllers. As we found out. Here's another story, 416 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,399 Speaker 2: and this is from John Solomon. He's a writer with 417 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: on a website called just thenews dot com, and he 418 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: wrote that the collision between the American Airlines jet and 419 00:25:54,320 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 2: the Blackhawk helicopter was preceded by months of harrowing misses 420 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 2: at airports across America. There have been a lot of 421 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,720 Speaker 2: near misses, and he writes that fourteen months before last 422 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 2: night's crash, the FAA got a safety expert report saying 423 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,120 Speaker 2: that America's air traffic control system is suffering from quality 424 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: control issues and staffing shortages, challenges in the area of 425 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 2: process integrity, staffing, facilities, equipment, and technology. Together these challenges 426 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 2: contribute to safety risk and they all have ties to 427 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 2: inadequate inconsistent funding for all the federal tax money. The 428 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 2: federal budget is like over six trillion dollars a year, 429 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: thirty six trillion in debt. We don't spend the minimum 430 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: amount of money for an air traffic control system. So 431 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 2: these guys work sixty hours a week, ten hours a day, 432 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 2: six days a week. And the guy last night who 433 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: is trying to land that plane and had to manage 434 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: the progress of the helicopter, according to reports, he was 435 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: doing two jobs. He was landing planes and directing planes 436 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 2: to lift off. Second job, madags do the helicopters that 437 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 2: fly up and down the Potomac River. And both the 438 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 2: planes and the helicopters are two different radio frequencies. So 439 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: when you had a helicopter approaching a plane, they don't 440 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 2: even speak on the same frequency, and they don't have 441 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 2: like different employees guiding them. He's got to do both 442 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760 Speaker 2: in addition to whatever other planes were landing at the time. 443 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 2: Over time is at historically high level, said the report. 444 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: And increasing high rates of overtime for extended periods introduces risk, 445 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: and that creates absenteeism, lower productivity, and fatigue. When traffic 446 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: is re routed put into holding patterns, Uh, the opportunity 447 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:07,400 Speaker 2: for mistakes is multiplied because of the changes in the operation. 448 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: These these guys, these men and women, are tired, they're overworked, frazzled. 449 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 2: They've got too many planes. And Congress just increased the 450 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: allotment of planes at Reagan because they want more access 451 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:27,639 Speaker 2: to fly out of town and go back home. So 452 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 2: that because Reagan is a relatively small airport and they 453 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 2: don't want to use Dulles, which is much larger, but 454 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,679 Speaker 2: it's thirty miles away. This is just gross missmanagement on 455 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: every level. The way there's gross miss management of our 456 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: fire department in Los Angeles, the water in power situation 457 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 2: with the empty reservoir, with so Cal Edison's power line 458 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 2: starting to yet another fire. 459 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: I mean that one that one killed. 460 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 2: This one killed a lot of people in Altadena, thousands, 461 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 2: thousands of homes burned. So anyway, we're gonna we're gonna 462 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: do the altadem thing when we come back. Aery Friedman 463 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: the attorney, and he's filed a loss against so Cal Edison. 464 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know why we spend uh like 465 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 2: in this state, tens of billions of dollars every year 466 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 2: on things like high speed rail, on climate change policies, 467 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: on illegal aliens, on criminals, billions on homeless people. We 468 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 2: spend so much money on drug addicts and mental patients. 469 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: Like I showed you in La County. 470 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 2: We spend more money on homeless drug addicts and mental 471 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 2: patients than we do in the fire department. 472 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: Why is this? 473 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 2: Why is Look look at all the money they have spent, 474 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 2: both on a national and a state local level. I'm 475 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: giving price packages to all the illegal aliens storming over 476 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 2: the border, including guys who came over and killed people. 477 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: They got benefits. I remember the guy who killed the 478 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: guy who killed Bacon Riley got a free plane ticket 479 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: from New York City to Georgia. We paid for his 480 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: plane ticket. You got to tie all. 481 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: Of this together because they choose to spend money on 482 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: the crazy people, on the criminals, on the illegals, and 483 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: they won't spend money on our fire department, our police department, 484 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: on air traffic control, on our water system, on our 485 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: power system. All right, more coming up, we'll talk to 486 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: Aarry Friedman Deborah Mark live in the CAFI twenty four 487 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 1: our newsroom. 488 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to The John Cobalt Show podcast. 489 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 490 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 491 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app