WEBVTT - This is Not The End (S1 EP 26 “End Game”)

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<v Speaker 1>Still The Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>And daphnews Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Hire for a recap, Yeah the Place, guys. We are

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<v Speaker 3>getting so close to the end of the season, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's sort of like the up and down of energy

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<v Speaker 3>of the episodes, like really fun stuff is starting to happen,

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<v Speaker 3>and then we have this one. It's a little bit yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit more emotional, a little bit a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit more down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's good though. I thought everyone, especially Andrew, really

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<v Speaker 1>hit the mark on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He had a lot to do. He had the most

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<v Speaker 1>to do for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>This episode is called end Game and it was written

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<v Speaker 3>by Frank South, directed by James Frawley. And I would

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<v Speaker 3>like to start by pointing out at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>the episode that the pool cleaner is not Matt still

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<v Speaker 3>because you asked him. It's still not Matt. No, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>just noting like I saw that.

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<v Speaker 2>You just ask your husband in the other room if

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<v Speaker 2>he's ever cleaned the pool off.

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<v Speaker 1>Him?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, oh, you can't identify him.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you not notice the pool cleaner?

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it looks like Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it looks like Doug. Yes, yeah, you please

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<v Speaker 1>just ask him? Will hold funny?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the second episode in the row you in

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<v Speaker 3>a row, you guys think it's Doug, and I'm convinced

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<v Speaker 3>it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a note this time it is Doug and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the same guy that it's just from the

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<v Speaker 2>back of the head and the camera moves in over him.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought, I don't know, it looked like Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ask him, Laura, I hear you have ads hysterical.

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<v Speaker 1>You please just ask him. You know, in the next room.

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<v Speaker 1>We make it such a mystery. He's literally right over

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<v Speaker 1>there working out.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably Yeah, I do know where he usually hangs out,

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<v Speaker 3>so I I can confirm it is not Doug. Oh okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I just think it's hysterical that you wrote the note

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<v Speaker 3>that it's definitely Doug the and I wrote not that

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely Well, you you might know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just maybe you should just take my word for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, don't you remember Scotty the props guy props He

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<v Speaker 2>used to do it all the time, and I really

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<v Speaker 2>haven't seen him yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he came like the regular pool guy later.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I think he hasn't started being the pool guy

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<v Speaker 3>and maybe whoever this guy is, because we only see

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<v Speaker 3>this guy's back, Yeah, this pool Guy's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>No, he's not going to be surprised to know that

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<v Speaker 4>this episode is not actually about the pool Guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it really feels like we're land Pipe.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, it's not remotely like that. I was so surprised

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<v Speaker 3>to find that we both had notes on it and

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<v Speaker 3>we were on such different pages of news. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>nearly irrelevant.

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<v Speaker 2>But so in order to bring managed expectations for the audience,

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<v Speaker 2>bring your mood back down to the soffer.

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<v Speaker 3>Land episode is not about the pool or the pool guy.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about?

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<v Speaker 3>It is mainly about I have to say, this is

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<v Speaker 3>what this episode is mainly about, Billy finding out that

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<v Speaker 3>his father has suddenly passed away from heart attack. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of an emotional episode throughout, and it's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>the main story is his journey through that. And at

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<v Speaker 3>the start of the episode, he's back in his lonely

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<v Speaker 3>empty apartment because Alison is gone in Seattle and it

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<v Speaker 3>is just him in his ratty dust chair since he's

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<v Speaker 3>also a man the chair see in his ugly chair

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<v Speaker 3>and sadly. He learns early on that his father has

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<v Speaker 3>had a massive heart attack and has died, and Billy

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<v Speaker 3>struggles with his emotions for the whole episode. He sort

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<v Speaker 3>of buries him deep, but he also is considering taking

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<v Speaker 3>over his dad's furniture store, which he thinks would have

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<v Speaker 3>made his dad proud. And so the gang at Melrose

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<v Speaker 3>Place is trying to support Billy while he's really unemotional

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<v Speaker 3>and they're concerned, and Amanda tries to console him too

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<v Speaker 3>by suggesting that she spend the night with him.

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<v Speaker 2>She shows up of the shadows one night in the courtyard,

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<v Speaker 2>is very bizarre, rude.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of the shadows, saying hey, rude, yeah, and but

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<v Speaker 3>admirably he even turns her down, which I was pleased.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, even when she kissed him really slowly.

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<v Speaker 3>Very provocatively, come on sure, and he manages to say nope,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I need to just be alone tonight. So

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<v Speaker 3>he is. However, he does seem to be interested in

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<v Speaker 3>talking to Allison after he hears a voicemail from her

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<v Speaker 3>on his answering machine, and then he's disappointed to only

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<v Speaker 3>reach Keith when he tries to return Ali.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, well I'll wait to later go ahead, so

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<v Speaker 1>much to say about it?

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<v Speaker 3>So you just Keith is like a trigger word.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, wait, he's not even in the episode. He's

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<v Speaker 1>pissing me off again. Yeah, I just.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think William Moses would want to be a guest,

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<v Speaker 2>even if.

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<v Speaker 1>He be like, you have no thank you, ladies.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all we're really just just annoyed with Keith. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we love Billy Moses, lovely Keith character. But then Allison

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<v Speaker 3>shows up at the cemetery right after the funeral. She's

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<v Speaker 3>delivered in a cab, just as the service is finished.

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<v Speaker 4>And how much did you guys, I think we'll get

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<v Speaker 4>to it, but how much do you guys think?

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<v Speaker 1>Finally, well, I just felt like it was perfect.

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<v Speaker 3>But of course when she lands there, she's there just

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<v Speaker 3>in the moment to witness Amanda doing another like sort

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<v Speaker 3>of sidling up to Billy.

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<v Speaker 2>She lands at Lax by the way, not that rinky

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<v Speaker 2>DNK Valley Airport, I'm sure, yeah, Elia, it's the famous

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<v Speaker 2>sort of Jetson's building.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, we actually shot an churistic episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and so when she sees Amanda sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>snuggling up to Billy, she's a look weirded down. Amanda

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<v Speaker 3>also manages to sneak in a comment to Allison about

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<v Speaker 3>how tired Billy was the night before, but then Billy

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<v Speaker 3>both emotionally and.

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<v Speaker 1>Physics just in case he didn't get my drift.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Billy assures Allison that he and Amanda are

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<v Speaker 3>indeed broken up, and he invites Alison to come spend

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<v Speaker 3>the night at her old apartment. And so that night,

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<v Speaker 3>Alison and Billy talk and they're sitting in the empty

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<v Speaker 3>living room with only the chair, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Even Allison doesn't want to sit on it. She's like you, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor. Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But this is where sort of the emotional cracks begin

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<v Speaker 3>to show for Billy, and he eventually ends up breaking

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<v Speaker 3>down with Alison after he lets off some steam at

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<v Speaker 3>the pier. They're playing some games where he just throws

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<v Speaker 3>the heck out of some baseballs and tries to break

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of stuff, but he ultimately ends up crying

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<v Speaker 3>on Alison's shoulder, and he reveals to her his wish

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<v Speaker 3>that he had told his father that he loved him,

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<v Speaker 3>and Alison tells Billy that his father knew that he

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<v Speaker 3>loved him because there's an invisible line connecting people who

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<v Speaker 3>love each other.

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<v Speaker 1>I think all this double on tundra and.

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<v Speaker 4>Say it, just say it.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course it's coming back. So then when Billy feels

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<v Speaker 3>like more at peace with things the next day, he

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<v Speaker 3>even has a random philosophical conversation about heaven. The next

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<v Speaker 3>day with Joe, we'll talk about that too.

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<v Speaker 1>And then before.

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<v Speaker 3>Alison flies back to Seattle, she and Billy attend a

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<v Speaker 3>brunch with his sister and his mom, where Billy's mom

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<v Speaker 3>tells Billy that she has sold the furniture store because

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<v Speaker 3>Billy's father would have preferred and he would have wanted

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<v Speaker 3>Billy to be a writer. She then asks Alison to

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<v Speaker 3>read a letter out loud that Billy's father had written

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<v Speaker 3>to him, and the letter says all the things that

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<v Speaker 3>Billy had needed to hear, including that his father loves

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<v Speaker 3>him and is so proud of Billy and his talent

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<v Speaker 3>for writing. So then at the airport again, Billy is

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<v Speaker 3>taking Allison there to fly back to Seattle. They're reluctant

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<v Speaker 3>to say goodbye. They're both saying how much they've missed

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<v Speaker 3>each other, and Alison decides at the last minute to

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<v Speaker 3>tell Billy that she doesn't want to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>She doesn't like it there, she missed.

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<v Speaker 3>Billy and everything else here, and Billy is a static

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<v Speaker 3>and he tells her that she should absolutely stay then,

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<v Speaker 3>and she agrees, and then they spin around in the

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<v Speaker 3>airport terminal like in an ice skating duo, in a

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<v Speaker 3>total embrace, as only people do when they're you know,

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<v Speaker 3>totally in love but really only just friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful angle, high camera angle, so you could see down

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<v Speaker 2>him spinning hopefully noting anybody knocking anybody over.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a very cute and romantic way to end

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<v Speaker 3>that storyline in the episode. But meanwhile, there's a There's

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<v Speaker 3>a There's a B story where Michael and Kimberly are

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<v Speaker 3>heating up, with her complaining about her apartments, bad management

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<v Speaker 3>and faulty pipe maintenance, and it sort of becomes a

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<v Speaker 3>very thinly disguised metaphor for everything that she needs and.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinks zero disguised, Laura, zero disguise and fair.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say, does anyone do a pointed

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<v Speaker 4>line better than Marcia?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, so obvious, so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything she says, it's like, you know, if only you

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<v Speaker 3>weren't married to someone else is basically, yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>All so yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Their scenes are super loaded with innuendo and tension, and

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<v Speaker 3>Michael ends up at her place fixing her literal pipes,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can see that he's clearly torn. He's, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>revealing his desire to give in to this mutual attraction

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<v Speaker 3>with her. But thankfully he does walk away, and he

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<v Speaker 3>does go home to Jane.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 3>And we also follow, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god.

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<v Speaker 3>We also follow Randa and Terrence and the too close

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<v Speaker 3>for Comfort decorator undercase. Terrence an ultimatum saying either carry

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<v Speaker 3>goes or she does, and Terrence says, all right, Randa,

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<v Speaker 3>you you go ahead and fire her yourself, though only

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<v Speaker 3>after a few very annoying Terrency comments about loving seeing

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<v Speaker 3>Ronda so jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, but she shut him right down. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not funny. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So. And then Matt also uses this moment and the

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<v Speaker 3>loss of Billy's father to reconnect with his own father,

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<v Speaker 3>and they have a really nice scene towards the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the episode, not cleaning the pool, but where they

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<v Speaker 3>agreed you really get to know each other, Mount and

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<v Speaker 3>his father and they agreed to spend time together more often.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very sweet. And the episode has sort of got

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<v Speaker 3>an overall theme of love and expressing your true feelings.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone else could happen kind of thing. I think the

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<v Speaker 2>death of that heart attack really took everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta like it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And it was a really deep episode of my

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<v Speaker 4>was place in terms of everyone's reaction too. It's the

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<v Speaker 4>first time they kind of had this is the theme

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<v Speaker 4>and everyone's reaction to this event, right. I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>the way people are trying to show up for Billy

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<v Speaker 4>was so sweet. Him not being able to deal with

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<v Speaker 4>it was so interesting, and then watching each person have

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<v Speaker 4>their own experience of what it feels like. We were young, right,

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<v Speaker 4>probably I certainly hadn't lost a parent yet. Had you

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<v Speaker 4>guys lost a parent? Yeah, at that point you had.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a huge deal. And it was you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Billy Billy being shut down and unable to experience his

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<v Speaker 3>emotions and like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, I got it, I'm fine the whole

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<v Speaker 2>beginning of it. In fact, nothing he didn't let he

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<v Speaker 2>thought he had to step into his dad's footsteps, which

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<v Speaker 2>is probably a common you know, think thinking your head

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<v Speaker 2>is like, oh, I guess I'm the man now or something.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm going to take over the store.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was all above, you know, in the head,

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<v Speaker 2>no emotion until until you know who comes to town

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<v Speaker 2>and he can be himself.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was such a beautiful scene that with.

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<v Speaker 2>Billy and Allison, don't you think when they were at

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<v Speaker 2>the pier, like you said, and he's just telling the

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<v Speaker 2>truth and just in a side for that peer that

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you guys have ever been there

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<v Speaker 1>outside of shooting the scene. And to that arcade there's a.

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<v Speaker 2>Wonderful carnal coaster and carnival games and you know, Mary

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<v Speaker 2>Ground is very childlike and very innocent and soft, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought it was a great place to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>he said, He said, my dad used to take me here,

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<v Speaker 2>and so he's reminiscing to when he was young.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah we did. But we're going way to

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<v Speaker 4>the end. Can we go a little bit to the beginning,

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<v Speaker 4>because well, and that was the episode. Yeah, so good

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<v Speaker 4>to see you guys. I want to talk about the

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<v Speaker 4>first scene for a second, right because it spends with

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<v Speaker 4>Billy in bed and then you see Alison and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>in this really weird white satin negligee and this bra

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<v Speaker 4>so I've told you guys like I was very chesty,

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<v Speaker 4>and I was very self conscious about it. So it's

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<v Speaker 4>just thinking this poor costumer. They must have said in

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<v Speaker 4>a White Negligee, Now, can you imagine any worse words?

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<v Speaker 4>If you're conscious about self consciou about your body and

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<v Speaker 4>your breast anyway, And we're gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Pull it from our dynasty closet.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, you're going toraw like from the thing

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<v Speaker 4>looked like it was made of iron, and this weird

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<v Speaker 4>negligent and I'm doing this sort of film noir monologue

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<v Speaker 4>and he's having a dream about me being there. But

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<v Speaker 4>I was just like, oh, I can't even imagine what

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<v Speaker 4>the costume you remember shooting it? I don't, but I

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<v Speaker 4>can promise you I probably blacked out. I probably blacked out,

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<v Speaker 4>but I look was so uncomfortable. I just look comfortable.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's also point out this is another one of Billy's

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<v Speaker 3>dream sequences, right, So he dreamed Alison up in this

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<v Speaker 3>White Negligee and she's there, like, you know, speaking like

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<v Speaker 3>she's in a nineteen twenties movie. And it's so funny

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<v Speaker 3>that he that there's this recurring theme of him having

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<v Speaker 3>these dreams, but this one even though, like Allison's appeared

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<v Speaker 3>to him in this like lovely look for him, it's

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<v Speaker 3>still a nightmare because the reality of the broad No,

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<v Speaker 3>because she's saying, because she's saying, you know, you blew it, Billy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you blew it. Literally, I'm still in Seattle. I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to wake up with Keith and your spirit and you're

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<v Speaker 3>still alone. And he wakes up to realize that, Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>that was a bad dream because I am, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>still alone. She's still gone. I'm still alone in this

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<v Speaker 3>apartment with just my jink.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's funny you say that look for that it's

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<v Speaker 2>his vision and it is a satiny sort of look.

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<v Speaker 2>She belongs on like a fifty year old woman or

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<v Speaker 2>something with all this lace and floral stuff or something,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's white. And then you go to his home

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<v Speaker 2>and his sister's childhood home with this floral and flower

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<v Speaker 2>on the flower paper, and you're like, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be Billy's sexy Emma, Yeah, I don't I

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<v Speaker 1>would fit in.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I have some thoughts about Billy's like the home setting

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<v Speaker 3>and the like dynamic with his mom and his sister

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<v Speaker 3>who comes in for the funeral and all that The

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<v Speaker 3>funny thing is that you looked great in the Little

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<v Speaker 3>Nighty Courtney, And I'm sorry it brought up like feelings

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, ooh and scary and vulnerable, but you

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<v Speaker 3>looked great.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just remembering how it felt, and I was like, God,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a bra, Like I was just so self conscious

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<v Speaker 4>and I just wanted to hide them. And then so

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<v Speaker 4>then moving past the bral but I just I so

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<v Speaker 4>saw that scene they're talking about. Do we go right

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<v Speaker 4>to Thomas and Kimberly talking about Kimberly needing a place

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<v Speaker 4>to stay. Yeah, that's before you find out about his dad.

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<v Speaker 3>So exactly. So like those things are overlapping. While Billy's

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<v Speaker 3>you know, waking up bum that he's alone in his apartment,

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<v Speaker 3>Michael is having a conversation with Kimberly at work, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's revealing that she's kind of, you know, hating her

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<v Speaker 3>apartment because the maintenance sucks and management sucks, and Michael

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<v Speaker 3>is suggesting that she maybe consider becoming Billy's roommate. That

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<v Speaker 3>there's an apartment that you know that is vacant in

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<v Speaker 3>Michael's building, and hey, you should we should have this

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<v Speaker 3>dinner and you should meet Billy because maybe you could

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<v Speaker 3>become his roommates. So they set up a dinner where

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of awkward, it's gonna be gene yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>a weird double day. Yeah yeah, and Billy and Kimberly

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<v Speaker 3>and it's such an interesting foursome. But and I just

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<v Speaker 3>totally can't imagine Kimberly becoming Billy's roommate.

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<v Speaker 1>You and I have to say, it reminded me. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>I told you that.

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<v Speaker 2>I lived with Darren in this dumpy little apartment in

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<v Speaker 2>college right off of UCLA. It was a two bedroom

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<v Speaker 2>with one bathroom and this dinky little bathroom. And and

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<v Speaker 2>of course I wasn't like this, you know, doctor to

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<v Speaker 2>be evil, gorgeous woman like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Kimberly was. I was a college kid like okay.

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<v Speaker 1>But we lived in there and I had a roommate

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<v Speaker 1>in my room.

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<v Speaker 2>You can imagine that, as tiny as these rooms are,

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<v Speaker 2>I had a roommate, two single beds.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she he had a roommate. And it just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reminded me.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that because it just was so old fashioned and

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<v Speaker 2>remind me how young we are and how long ago

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<v Speaker 2>this show was, and that kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>your first time out this the shape that the building's

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<v Speaker 2>in and the apartment, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And she goes over after the dinner, she goes, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like she gamely sort of goes along with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it goes check out the apartment, and she's walking around

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<v Speaker 3>and she's being really polite about it, like looking into

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<v Speaker 3>the space. But I'm having the same trouble endition, you're

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<v Speaker 3>sharing a bathroom with Billy, Like that just doesn't that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't match up or whatever. And that's that's of course

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<v Speaker 3>when Billy.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Kimberly wanted to do this because it meant he

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<v Speaker 2>could well, she could spend more.

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<v Speaker 1>Time with Michael right this dinner, but then.

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<v Speaker 2>She would have to see the wife because she keeps

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<v Speaker 2>bringing up the wife.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was my thought, like your.

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<v Speaker 2>Wife is such a pain in my ass, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to what she dinner Michael.

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<v Speaker 4>She's going on and on, like Michael's going on and on.

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<v Speaker 4>He says, he says, we should do dinner, and then

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<v Speaker 4>Kimberly goes, is your wife coming too? And then at

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<v Speaker 4>dinner he goes, he says, oh my god, where did

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<v Speaker 4>I put it? But he says, Kimberly is professional, smart,

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<v Speaker 4>easy to get along with easy on the eyes, and

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<v Speaker 4>Jose's like, what do you like.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, you're not they're not getting married, Michael. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And then in that same thing, she's talking about complaining

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<v Speaker 4>about the plumbing and he goes, I have tools, I

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<v Speaker 4>could take care of it, and she says, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 4>you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It was so not not thinly discussied.

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<v Speaker 4>She just takes at those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>It's yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally and he's like keeps playing like oh well yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well you can tell he's completely like into it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like he's kind of not quite doing it, but you

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<v Speaker 4>know very much that he's interested. Like there's no that's

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<v Speaker 4>a hard line. It's like it's kind of a light,

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<v Speaker 4>foggy line of spaces in it. You can, yeah, right

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<v Speaker 4>through the spaces.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely she's coming on like a bulldozer.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that Kimberly is like leaving. No, he's literally

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<v Speaker 2>there fixing the pipes. It wasn't just a sexy innuendo

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<v Speaker 2>that she said. Like then he's there fixing her sink,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 4>And then she goes she goes, I have some meat

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<v Speaker 4>in the fresh Yeah, speaking of meats, wine, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a bottle of line, But I guess you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go home to your wife.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to try that. Maybe that's why I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>dating very much. I have some meat. Maybe that's the secret.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe that's the line, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I could cook it. I could have.

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<v Speaker 2>Swear, I said, at these settings, so we can have

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<v Speaker 2>a little thumb down.

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<v Speaker 1>He's definitely trying to thumb up because this is where

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<v Speaker 1>it belongs. It bels bum.

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<v Speaker 3>You can make a big rain cloud like a storm

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<v Speaker 3>has there.

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<v Speaker 1>You go you no, Michael, don't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I thought it was really funny. Back to that

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<v Speaker 3>dinner when Billy sort of he breaks the tension by going, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>do you have any furniture? And she goes, I have

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<v Speaker 3>an apartment full, and he says, do you want to Elope, And.

0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:31.800
<v Speaker 1>It's like he's charming, he's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>He breaks the attention. That's obviously so you know, awkward

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<v Speaker 3>between the whole Jane and Kimberly and Michael thing, yeah

0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.720
<v Speaker 3>he did. But so then it's then when he when

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<v Speaker 3>Billy learns about the heart attack and they're at the

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<v Speaker 3>apartment with Kimberly checking out the bathroom really politely, like

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<v Speaker 3>pretending like this might actually work out, which I can

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<v Speaker 3>tell clearly it's not going to work out. Even then,

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<v Speaker 3>when Billy runs off to the hospital and he meets

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<v Speaker 3>his mom there, his mom is sort of like, this

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<v Speaker 3>is where she's sort of like manic and she's going, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we were this, we were dancing, and then you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all of a sudden he wasn't feeling well and she's

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<v Speaker 3>sort of manic and whatever, and they're just the conversation

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<v Speaker 3>is like they're assuming the doctor's going to come out

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<v Speaker 3>and tell us what the next steps are are.

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<v Speaker 4>I know you listened to a lot of the scene.

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<v Speaker 4>All I could look at were her shoulder pads.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, Yeah, right, they were a flowery or something. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you remember that time though? Shoulder pads are big.

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<v Speaker 4>I remember remember Home Shopping Network had just started, and

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<v Speaker 4>I remember buying from Home Shopping Network like a box

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<v Speaker 4>of shoulder pads. Yes, I was an early adapter. That's

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<v Speaker 4>shoulder pads and you would tuck them in and you'd

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<v Speaker 4>like put them under your bra member and they were

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<v Speaker 4>rounded ones and square ones because I think we thought

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<v Speaker 4>and my mother did too, because I remember they were

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<v Speaker 4>always like falling out because they were spongy. The their

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<v Speaker 4>fham boone foam.

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<v Speaker 1>They would fall out and all of a sudden you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be walking and all.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that she also had one in her

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<v Speaker 3>hair do, because her hair was really big and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>they just used to like pump it up a little bit, kind.

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<v Speaker 4>Of like she wandered over from Dynasty. She was very

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<v Speaker 4>but you yeah, And I also felt like her character

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<v Speaker 4>was sort of in a Tennessee Williams play the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was very dramatic and stuff, and it was like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 3>this is jarring and a little bit everything was a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit surreal and kind of weird. Like when Billy

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<v Speaker 3>went home, I just felt like his home life and

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<v Speaker 3>his relationships and stuff, and his mom's dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very very experience. There was a totally it

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<v Speaker 1>felt different.

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<v Speaker 4>It did. It felt different tonally, like they came in

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<v Speaker 4>with this intensity. I was confused different. That's a good point. Yeah,

0:21:48.320 --> 0:21:49.320
<v Speaker 4>that's an interesting point.

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<v Speaker 3>I was confused. But you know, so they learned in

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital that that his dad is dead, and Billy

0:21:55.960 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 3>goes home. He's just sort of numb and that's when

0:21:59.640 --> 0:22:02.600
<v Speaker 3>he owners all of his Like Melrose.

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<v Speaker 1>The friends come over.

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<v Speaker 4>Says, is your dad you know if you need anything,

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<v Speaker 4>of your dad needs help the hospital and goes he's dead.

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<v Speaker 4>It was just like felt like a thud.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, which made it easier for them to avoid

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<v Speaker 3>talking about Matt's loud shirt and his really long mullet.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, colorful shirt. Just had to see the kids.

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<v Speaker 3>At least we could ignore, because when Matt first steps

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<v Speaker 3>out of his apartment, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Like, well, yeah, that was right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a lot a big print, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>he was just kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Like was like, nope, I got everything settled, I'm good,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. And then I think it was Joe and Jake.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael and Jane came over to say they're sorry, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Joe and Jake come over, and he was.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of out of it. I think he was still stunned.

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<v Speaker 1>I think yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 4>I thinked like too. I think I still like so

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<v Speaker 4>good in that scene because I could see that Joe knew,

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<v Speaker 4>like he was saying I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine,

0:22:55.400 --> 0:22:58.120
<v Speaker 4>and I could really see on your face that you knew,

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<v Speaker 4>which is why the late scene that will get you

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<v Speaker 4>but played so well when you bring the coffee machine

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<v Speaker 4>over because you you had had this shared experience with him,

0:23:08.040 --> 0:23:10.480
<v Speaker 4>which is which is rare at that age, right most Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I had lost her moment. Yeah, so you I could

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<v Speaker 4>see and I was like, oh, she knows. I actually

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<v Speaker 4>wrote that down. She knows he's not.

0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:20.320
<v Speaker 1>I really like that scene that we had that we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about in a minute.

0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:24.000
<v Speaker 3>But and Jane, Jane is also commenting. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think he's expressing his emotions, like he's not, you know,

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:30.240
<v Speaker 3>And Michael sort of like, yeah, yeah, he'll get to that.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just going to do He's fun. I got to

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<v Speaker 4>go back to the hospital. Do you really is that

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<v Speaker 4>where you're going? Cut to I'm under the sink cleaning

0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 4>the pipes, the lining and the pipes. Yep, the lies

0:23:40.680 --> 0:23:43.280
<v Speaker 4>are already Star was a lie, and it's starting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's like he's in that kind of like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's I don't know, he's in that kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of like buffoon is kind of like, oh, what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? And then you know, I came on,

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<v Speaker 1>coming on, I'm married, let me come clean your back.

0:23:55.560 --> 0:23:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Now he's lying to his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, latantly, I expected that he was going to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to the hospital because and then he gets to

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<v Speaker 2>see Kimberly.

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<v Speaker 1>But then he's like there under her sink.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and he uses the excuse like, oh, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>at this funeral all day. I haven't been to the hospital.

0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:10.879
<v Speaker 3>I need to go see patients. He just blatantly lies

0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:13.240
<v Speaker 3>and we cut straight to underneath.

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.320
<v Speaker 2>And I think Jane was a little I think I

0:24:15.359 --> 0:24:18.080
<v Speaker 2>picked up from Josie like a little did you guys

0:24:18.160 --> 0:24:18.480
<v Speaker 2>see this?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>About this because she's now seen her quite a few

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<v Speaker 2>or a few times, saw Kimberly, sees what she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>sees that, you know, he was over bored on talking

0:24:30.600 --> 0:24:32.879
<v Speaker 2>up her, you know, assets and how great she was

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<v Speaker 2>at that dinner. So now he's like, I have to

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<v Speaker 2>go back to the hospital. I saw a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of suspicion or something.

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:41.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, she's definitely disappointed that he's not just staying home

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:42.800
<v Speaker 3>and being with her.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's related. I think it's story forwards.

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<v Speaker 4>She might know about all of Kimberly's meat. I think

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<v Speaker 4>so how much that they're going to eat it.

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I think she's going to go out to Ralph's and

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<v Speaker 2>get a steak and some wine and Jane and.

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Put and Frederie boy has all that meat.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to say, Jean was a little bit dressed

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<v Speaker 3>like Charlie Chaplin for the funeral, which.

0:25:09.280 --> 0:25:10.840
<v Speaker 4>I thought that was interesting too.

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there was a cute little velvet bucket hat, but.

0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:18.600
<v Speaker 1>There was a giant overcoat. Yeah, a giant pant over

0:25:18.720 --> 0:25:19.439
<v Speaker 1>her cute.

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure it was a pin stripe cute pin stripe

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:24.840
<v Speaker 3>suit on underneath, but the giant coat with it, plus

0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:25.200
<v Speaker 3>the hat.

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<v Speaker 1>She was just like, this is nineteen ninety three.

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:30.359
<v Speaker 3>It did not need she did not need all that

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.359
<v Speaker 3>fabric and she it was a little bit Charlie Chaplin was.

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<v Speaker 1>Nineteen ninety three.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's a fashions got to be super fashion forward, I guess.

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:41.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she was trying something new and she got it

0:25:41.760 --> 0:25:42.320
<v Speaker 3>and we didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, let's you know, I think those the palazzo pants,

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<v Speaker 2>the white pants, all that fabric that, you know, was

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<v Speaker 2>big back then. I know that Joe did after a while.

0:25:51.680 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 2>Right now, she's still in her kind of black jeans face.

0:25:53.840 --> 0:25:56.440
<v Speaker 2>But after a while we got in some of these

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.760
<v Speaker 2>all these printed sort of flowy pants and floey shirts too.

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:02.959
<v Speaker 3>But you know, I don't mind palazza pants. What I

0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 3>don't like is parachute pants. Have to say remember.

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<v Speaker 1>Those Oh that's nineties two, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Pat mc hammer.

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<v Speaker 1>Taking a stand on thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Somebody finally did Laura thank I'm different.

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<v Speaker 1>Had the courage.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm just gonna see it.

0:26:22.680 --> 0:26:27.480
<v Speaker 4>We skipped over that after Billy sees Matt Amanda comes

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<v Speaker 4>out of the shadows and she says to him, I've

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<v Speaker 4>been waiting for you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:37.439
<v Speaker 4>She appears are dockery, creepy, yeah, but incredibly beautiful stocker

0:26:37.720 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 4>about running. That really softens it. And then she says,

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<v Speaker 4>would you like me to stay over?

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 3>I'd like to.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is not the show of subtle women like

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:48.720
<v Speaker 4>this this episode, it's not women being subtle.

0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>And I read the the show.

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:56.800
<v Speaker 3>I really thought Andrew played it like so he was

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<v Speaker 3>so firm and strong, like I'm not, no, you know,

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:03.040
<v Speaker 3>he wasn't even like a little bit tempted. And I

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:04.679
<v Speaker 3>just thought, good for you, Billy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. And that's when he goes home and gets a

0:27:06.560 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 4>message from Alison and calls and Keith answers, and I'm like, oh, yeah, Keith,

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 4>we all had the same reactions when everybody misses. Yeah,

0:27:14.680 --> 0:27:16.920
<v Speaker 4>when people just miss But you.

0:27:16.880 --> 0:27:20.199
<v Speaker 3>Know, all of this like before, before all of this

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 3>has happened, we haven't quite touched yet on the weirdness

0:27:23.359 --> 0:27:25.320
<v Speaker 3>of the sister because Billy has to go pick up

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:27.399
<v Speaker 3>his sister at the airport who's flying in for the

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<v Speaker 3>for the funeral, right, and it's that it's with her

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.400
<v Speaker 3>that he has this conversation outside the airport as they're

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 3>getting into his car about, yeah, he thinks, you know

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.840
<v Speaker 3>that he might take over the furniture store, because she's

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<v Speaker 3>the one who says I always told Dad he should

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<v Speaker 3>retire earlier, and you know that he was it was

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 3>too much and he should retire. And I think he

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<v Speaker 3>was just waiting for you to take on the store.

0:27:53.200 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 3>And then he goes, well, actually I'm thinking of doing that,

0:27:55.640 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 3>and she yells at him, She's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, stop talking business like she just sort of it's

0:28:01.000 --> 0:28:03.159
<v Speaker 1>like the weird moment.

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I was like, what is this relationship? Did you guys

0:28:06.359 --> 0:28:06.879
<v Speaker 3>get confused?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

0:28:07.440 --> 0:28:09.479
<v Speaker 2>I didn't feel the relationship. I don't think we've did.

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Is this the only time we saw him.

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<v Speaker 4>I was wondering that if we'd established it had a

0:28:14.280 --> 0:28:15.639
<v Speaker 4>sister before, I don't think so.

0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you know it wasn't written with a

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 2>familiarity of these two characters. And this guest star comes

0:28:23.040 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>in and it's supposed to be like very dramatic. You know,

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.199
<v Speaker 2>she reads it and she finds out her dad just

0:28:27.240 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 2>died and stuff.

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>So there's that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I think like it was written for her

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.120
<v Speaker 3>to do that. It wasn't like, yeah, she.

0:28:34.119 --> 0:28:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Keeps calling him little brother, little brother, and he's like,

0:28:36.440 --> 0:28:40.080
<v Speaker 2>stop calling me that. It was just I agree with you, Laura,

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:42.840
<v Speaker 2>it's just awkward. I didn't understand the relationship. And then

0:28:42.840 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 2>when I saw her bedroom, I really didn't understand her

0:28:46.320 --> 0:28:49.120
<v Speaker 2>because it's like either a dumb it's like a queen

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:53.040
<v Speaker 2>or a king size or two twins pushed together, brass framed.

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>With all this flowers everywhere.

0:28:55.200 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>Floral bedding, floral wallpaper, but different florals, just like different everywhere.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but it's the nineties. You never know.

0:29:03.680 --> 0:29:07.959
<v Speaker 3>The dad's old suits still hanging in the closet, you know,

0:29:08.120 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 3>the mom's like, I'm sorry, he was using this for

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:13.800
<v Speaker 3>his work closet, and Billy just sort of recognizes the

0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:17.720
<v Speaker 3>suits in there, and he's really thinking about this furniture

0:29:17.720 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 3>store and really becoming the furniture guy.

0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.920
<v Speaker 2>It's always interesting with situations like this because this is

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>a show about all the kids together, right, all of

0:29:25.160 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>us in this building, each of us have families. So

0:29:27.920 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 2>whenever they're hired and we have scenes with them, it's

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:33.479
<v Speaker 2>the first and probably maybe the last time we're going

0:29:33.520 --> 0:29:36.840
<v Speaker 2>to see these people. And the writers also don't know.

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing, there's no familiarity, there's no like thing to

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 2>anchor it. So sometimes it works, and sometimes you're just

0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:45.959
<v Speaker 2>kind of like they're on another planet, you know, well, right,

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:50.120
<v Speaker 2>because it's sudden backstory, like you just suddenly have to

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.479
<v Speaker 2>tell your backstory in this scene when we're meeting you.

0:29:52.920 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 3>We have to learn all about this relationship all once,

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:59.479
<v Speaker 3>and you know, based on these circumstances, but also like

0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 3>me give you the backstory. And it's just like it

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:04.320
<v Speaker 3>was jarring. I just felt like it was jarring and

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:06.120
<v Speaker 3>it was just a little odd tonally.

0:30:06.200 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>It was just weird.

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean I know what you mean. She came

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:10.960
<v Speaker 4>in really hot, but I think she only had a

0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:11.840
<v Speaker 4>couple scenes.

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with what was written for her that way.

0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 4>It was written that way. Yeah, and they so it

0:30:17.040 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 4>felt like I like what you said about it feeling

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.360
<v Speaker 4>like a play like that storyline felt like a really

0:30:21.400 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 4>separate thing. And then we go back to our familiar

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 4>Melrose Place. And it's true when you introduce someone's family,

0:30:27.400 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, you've got this whole new cast

0:30:29.600 --> 0:30:32.960
<v Speaker 4>of characters, and our Melrose Place is our family now.

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 1>So we're trying to introduce these people.

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 4>And she has to be there to help him get

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 4>to the breakdown at the end, right well.

0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:43.480
<v Speaker 3>And just yeah, and his thought that being the furniture

0:30:43.520 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 3>man was the thing that would make his father proud.

0:30:46.160 --> 0:30:49.040
<v Speaker 3>And for some reason that makes the system.

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 1>There's a really nice path with the screen.

0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:54.240
<v Speaker 3>And it does. It does all end up in the right.

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:54.920
<v Speaker 1>Place, really nice.

0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:58.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's a sweet scene at the funeral. I always

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:00.640
<v Speaker 4>love it when we're all together, even at a funeral.

0:31:01.160 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 4>And Doug looks very handsome in his turtleneck.

0:31:04.200 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 3>Did you notice, well, maybe he tucked some of his

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 3>mullet into the back of the turtleck.

0:31:11.160 --> 0:31:13.920
<v Speaker 1>No, of course, he looked very handsome. He did.

0:31:13.960 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 4>He looked very handsome. Didn't have any dialogue at the

0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:18.560
<v Speaker 4>Joe had very big funeral hair.

0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Big funeral dude.

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 4>You notice you got all all done up for the funeral.

0:31:22.520 --> 0:31:24.720
<v Speaker 3>Joe has had really bouncy hair lately.

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:27.760
<v Speaker 2>You know who I thought, Amanda? I mean, she was

0:31:27.960 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 2>right at a dynasty hair. The falcon crust was pulled

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:35.000
<v Speaker 2>back French twist.

0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:36.760
<v Speaker 1>Was it kind of a high updo?

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, very like this.

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:40.840
<v Speaker 1>It was so not Amanda, all of us had.

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like, wow, we're going to a funeral,

0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.200
<v Speaker 2>We're just gonna change it all up.

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Charlie Chaplin on.

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Jay Joe's like all curly and bouncy. Amanda's up like

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, Linda, I don't know. It just seemed very

0:31:55.520 --> 0:31:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Why do people do that for funerals?

0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:02.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, like out of the norm. The priest

0:32:02.160 --> 0:32:04.640
<v Speaker 3>or whoever was saying the words over the grave, you know,

0:32:04.720 --> 0:32:07.440
<v Speaker 3>he was I think he got the memos because he

0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.440
<v Speaker 3>was a little bit Tennessee Williams too. I thought the

0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 3>whole thing was very Usha yes to Usha's yes.

0:32:13.520 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, then we're looking at it, and I am, of

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:16.960
<v Speaker 4>course yelling at the screen because that's why I want

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 4>to watch you together one day, so we can all

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 4>yell at the screen because West, where are you? I

0:32:21.680 --> 0:32:23.760
<v Speaker 4>was so annoyed, and then all of a sudden, you

0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:26.240
<v Speaker 4>see after and this was a little I don't know

0:32:26.280 --> 0:32:30.880
<v Speaker 4>if you guys caught this little mistake. But she shows

0:32:30.960 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 4>up after the funeral, and then later she tells Billy's

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 4>mom was a lovely service and.

0:32:34.360 --> 0:32:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Don't want to go you loved say you weren't there.

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:40.560
<v Speaker 4>But after the service, the cab pulls up and I

0:32:40.600 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 4>think Billy was talking to Amanda at the time, right,

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:44.520
<v Speaker 4>aren't they having a little conversation.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.400
<v Speaker 1>And then he looks over and sees Alison.

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 3>That's where she's kind of, you know, nuzzling up to

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:50.760
<v Speaker 3>him again, saying, you know, if you need anything.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 2>She's man, I mean he already rejected her. I know

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 2>he didn't invite her to the funeral, but she's right.

0:32:56.720 --> 0:33:00.080
<v Speaker 2>Amanda shows up anyway, even though she was rejected by

0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:04.320
<v Speaker 2>Billy after their breakup last episode, and she shows up anyway,

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 2>and then she's gonna nuzzle up next to him in

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>front of Alison like it's just it's endless, like it's

0:33:10.040 --> 0:33:12.160
<v Speaker 2>it's I don't know, I'm speechless.

0:33:12.240 --> 0:33:13.120
<v Speaker 1>It's very Amanda.

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 2>It's very very She has no emotion, no shame, no humility,

0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>no insecurity about just popping up at a funeral and.

0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:23.720
<v Speaker 1>Saying, Hey, I'm gonna make your girlfriend jealous.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And also like at the end, when you know

0:33:27.800 --> 0:33:30.160
<v Speaker 3>he's got his mom, she leaves in the limo and

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Amanda goes her own way, and it's just Alison and Billy.

0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Billy wants to like lament the flowers and stuff at

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 3>the ceremony, which he's like angry with the sister for

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 3>setting up all the wrong flowers roses, which his father

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:45.400
<v Speaker 3>was allergic to and would have hated, and he's sort

0:33:45.440 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 3>of lamenting that, And I just I felt like to

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:52.560
<v Speaker 3>your point, Court Alison had to sort of like talk

0:33:52.640 --> 0:33:54.680
<v Speaker 3>him down off that, like, hey, it's okay, you know.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 3>And so like when she later says it was a

0:33:57.360 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 3>lovely service, I feel like almost even though yeah, she

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 3>was lying, she didn't actually see it, I feel like

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 3>it was Alison also just trying to go everybody, everything's okay,

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 3>it was a lovely service, you know. Like it was

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:07.760
<v Speaker 3>like I.

0:34:07.720 --> 0:34:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Don't remember her being asked about the service. I remember

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 2>the mom saying, do you think I went overboard on

0:34:11.520 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 2>the flowers?

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:13.359
<v Speaker 1>And she said no, it was.

0:34:13.320 --> 0:34:16.520
<v Speaker 3>Lovely, right, So she was like trying to say yes.

0:34:16.560 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 2>And the last shot of the whole scene is all

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 2>of these flowers, like there were a ton of flowers.

0:34:22.160 --> 0:34:24.399
<v Speaker 2>They were right, they went overboard of the flowers. Yeah,

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 2>and they're cleaning them up and taking them away.

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.240
<v Speaker 3>But Alison's the one who's being diplomatic there, going yeah, totally,

0:34:30.600 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 3>everything is fine. It was lovely, you know, like get

0:34:34.080 --> 0:34:34.600
<v Speaker 3>don't you know.

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:36.200
<v Speaker 1>To all Alison's back. Yeah.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:40.840
<v Speaker 4>That was such a sweet scene of them by the car,

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.520
<v Speaker 4>and I really felt in that moment. I thought, oh,

0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:45.680
<v Speaker 4>I get really get why people are rooting for these

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 4>crazy kids, right And you could see that Andrew and

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.160
<v Speaker 4>I were two people who really care about each other,

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 4>and I thought, oh, that was such a That was

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.240
<v Speaker 4>really a sweet scene to see them come back together.

0:34:55.920 --> 0:34:57.640
<v Speaker 4>And then when they walked back into the apartment and

0:34:57.640 --> 0:34:59.840
<v Speaker 4>they're out of their funeral clothes and they're just in

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:02.800
<v Speaker 4>their casual clothes on the floor, I was like, oh,

0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.160
<v Speaker 4>they're home. Didn't it feel like, yeah, oh, they're home.

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I really saw at some point in this I forget

0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:11.719
<v Speaker 2>it was one of your close ups or one of

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 2>the scenes, probably halfway through the last half of it,

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 2>where I saw I really saw, this is the heart.

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.760
<v Speaker 2>You were the pulsing heart of the show right now,

0:35:20.800 --> 0:35:23.720
<v Speaker 2>the stories which which it goes on, but it really

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 2>was like all this other stuff sort of happens, but

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:30.760
<v Speaker 2>you're like, ah, we're back to come on, we come on, guys.

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 2>You know we see your love, we know you care,

0:35:32.760 --> 0:35:33.360
<v Speaker 2>but I don't.

0:35:33.160 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>Know why you can't say it.

0:35:34.960 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 2>But it was really important and I could see why

0:35:37.560 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>the audience just loves this couple.

0:35:39.680 --> 0:35:41.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, made sound was really cute.

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 3>And in that scene in the apartment is where you know,

0:35:44.760 --> 0:35:48.319
<v Speaker 3>he tries to ask her about Seattle and she's like, oh,

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.560
<v Speaker 3>it's fine, it's fine, we're going to do this, you know,

0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:51.719
<v Speaker 3>next week and it's gonna be great.

0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It's fine.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.000
<v Speaker 3>She's just brief and short, but like you can even

0:35:55.000 --> 0:35:59.160
<v Speaker 3>start to see her cracks showing like that wasn't a

0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 3>very like authentic answer, Like I don't think I got

0:36:03.840 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 3>the whole story in that answer. And she's like, well,

0:36:05.560 --> 0:36:07.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, how are you doing and whatever? And he

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.280
<v Speaker 3>when she questions him about like the furniture store plan

0:36:10.560 --> 0:36:12.279
<v Speaker 3>that he has, that's when he loses it and he's like,

0:36:12.320 --> 0:36:14.839
<v Speaker 3>what do you even care? You you left, and that's

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 3>where he starts to show his emotions about her leaving,

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.720
<v Speaker 3>and he's really, this is this is what it's about.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:24.000
<v Speaker 3>It's like I need you, I miss you, I loved you,

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm you know you left you. But he you know

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 3>that he's She's the only one he's safe to reveal

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.160
<v Speaker 3>his emotions to. And so that's why when he's like,

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 3>I got I got to get out of here, and

0:36:34.760 --> 0:36:36.359
<v Speaker 3>let's you know, he goes to take out his anger

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 3>at the carnival or whatever.

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:39.600
<v Speaker 1>It just ends up being.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 4>Well what he says, because I wrote it down because

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 4>I love that scene too. He says, don't come down

0:36:42.640 --> 0:36:44.560
<v Speaker 4>your neck like you give a damn And then Allison says,

0:36:44.600 --> 0:36:46.680
<v Speaker 4>you don't really think you can scare me away that easily,

0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:47.000
<v Speaker 4>do you?

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:36:47.960 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 4>And it's very sweet, Yeah, because most of their game

0:36:50.880 --> 0:36:53.920
<v Speaker 4>has been him sort of chasing her and her sort

0:36:53.920 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 4>of being so it's nice to see it reversed where

0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 4>he's sort of acting and she's saying, I'm here and

0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 4>I'm here with you. I'm not going anywhere. It's good

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:01.680
<v Speaker 4>to see the show.

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I mean at this point, you know, which I've been

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:09.040
<v Speaker 2>wondering in other scenes as well, Why can't why haven't

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:13.959
<v Speaker 2>they what's keeping them from being together? Honestly, as human

0:37:14.600 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 2>I talked about, I get the conceit of the script

0:37:16.640 --> 0:37:17.760
<v Speaker 2>and YadA, YadA, YadA.

0:37:18.160 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what did Chuck say?

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Because it's at one point it's too much, like it

0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.080
<v Speaker 2>just doesn't make sense.

0:37:23.320 --> 0:37:24.160
<v Speaker 1>It makes no sense.

0:37:24.160 --> 0:37:27.120
<v Speaker 4>Well, now that's what's hard about these shows. And you know,

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.120
<v Speaker 4>I just watched Bones and then I watched Castle and

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 4>Nick Conceited is the same in both. Right, everyone knows

0:37:31.200 --> 0:37:33.080
<v Speaker 4>that these two lead characters are in love. They have

0:37:33.080 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 4>to keep them apart for season.

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:35.319
<v Speaker 1>Have to keep them apart.

0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:37.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you have to keep them apart. You have to

0:37:37.920 --> 0:37:40.040
<v Speaker 4>just is the one that loved me? In this scene

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 4>where I said, uh, it seems so often so much

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.960
<v Speaker 4>goes unsaid, but so many times we hear it. Maybe

0:37:47.000 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 4>you didn't say I love you, but he heard you anyway.

0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, hello, yeah.

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean And she says there's an invisible string between

0:37:54.520 --> 0:37:59.040
<v Speaker 2>two people, and this is he's plocking about his dad,

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>people who literally and.

0:38:02.040 --> 0:38:04.040
<v Speaker 1>He doesn't bring it up, and like, there you wanted

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to kiss?

0:38:04.840 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 2>So I get that they're This means the writers are

0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 2>being very successful at what they're.

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 1>Supposed to do because we're so frustrated.

0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 3>But I just know, yeah, at this point, because we

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 3>can see very clearly what they're.

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Not married at this point, I mean, especially after We'll

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:20.440
<v Speaker 2>see what happens now that she's left Keith sin Seattle.

0:38:20.840 --> 0:38:22.879
<v Speaker 4>Here's the thing, like, we're not interested in each other

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:25.000
<v Speaker 4>at the same time, right, there's something going on that

0:38:25.040 --> 0:38:27.080
<v Speaker 4>always keeps us a little bit a little bit. Now,

0:38:27.120 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 4>we want to keep that tension because that's what keeps

0:38:29.440 --> 0:38:30.560
<v Speaker 4>you coming back week after week.

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:31.919
<v Speaker 1>We'll see what happens next week.

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Ye, we'll see what happens if they.

0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:38.160
<v Speaker 1>We know by the end of this episode.

0:38:37.920 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 3>That she decides to stay. Yeah.

0:38:39.640 --> 0:38:43.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You see her going up the stairs and you're like,

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:46.480
<v Speaker 2>oh boy, there she goes again, and she just turns

0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 2>around and says, I hate it. I don't care about

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:52.680
<v Speaker 2>the At least she didn't say I didn't care about

0:38:52.719 --> 0:38:53.600
<v Speaker 2>the environment.

0:38:53.200 --> 0:38:55.279
<v Speaker 1>Because he is an environment. She did, I don't care

0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>about this.

0:38:55.800 --> 0:38:58.880
<v Speaker 2>Don't even he oh, the Pacific Northwest or something.

0:38:58.920 --> 0:38:59.600
<v Speaker 1>It was something that.

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.040
<v Speaker 3>I was like the Olympic Peninsula or something, the Olympic.

0:39:02.719 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 4>She was like time alone was Keith was not our friend,

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:08.640
<v Speaker 4>like it did not when it's just its in her friends,

0:39:08.680 --> 0:39:11.279
<v Speaker 4>because it's just Keith and this is not good Keith.

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:21.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, can we talk about the philosophical conversation between Billy

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.560
<v Speaker 5>Joe about heaven when she Joe comes over to deliver

0:39:26.600 --> 0:39:29.200
<v Speaker 5>a coffee pot and it's sort of like a peace offering,

0:39:29.280 --> 0:39:31.520
<v Speaker 5>and you see that, like both of them are like, hey,

0:39:31.560 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 5>let's let's get past this and let's be friends or whatever.

0:39:33.680 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 3>It was super sweet gesture and stuff. And he invites

0:39:36.040 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 3>her in and they're setting up the coffee pot and

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:40.640
<v Speaker 3>they end up he's and she's like, yeah, you can

0:39:40.719 --> 0:39:43.040
<v Speaker 3>use me as a sounding board and he's like, okay,

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:46.239
<v Speaker 3>sounding board. And then I think he's going to ask

0:39:46.400 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 3>something like let me ask you a question. I think

0:39:48.880 --> 0:39:51.279
<v Speaker 3>he's going to ask something about Alison. And instead of that,

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:54.040
<v Speaker 3>he's like, where do you think people go when they die?

0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like what the question was so funny, Like I

0:39:57.560 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 3>was expecting a.

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>Comp I thought it was gonna be like, what how

0:40:00.360 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>was it for you when your mom died? Like I

0:40:01.840 --> 0:40:03.560
<v Speaker 2>thought I was going to have something related to the

0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 2>deaths of both of their parents.

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, very surfacing, very melrosine.

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 3>I was expecting that, and said I got like a deep,

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:14.200
<v Speaker 3>like you know, tangential philosophical thing.

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the writers was right on his father

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 2>just died of a heart attack and her mother died.

0:40:19.520 --> 0:40:20.720
<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, I'm.

0:40:20.560 --> 0:40:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Just telling you how shallow I was and what my

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:23.279
<v Speaker 3>expectation was.

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, that's fair.

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:27.360
<v Speaker 4>You No, I love it, but I thought I was.

0:40:27.480 --> 0:40:29.319
<v Speaker 4>I was wondering if one of the writers had just

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:31.080
<v Speaker 4>lost a parent, because it felt like one of those

0:40:31.160 --> 0:40:34.480
<v Speaker 4>where you're grappling with that, and I thought that might

0:40:34.520 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 4>make a good Mel's minute if we want to talk

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.880
<v Speaker 4>about that after. But when you're really grappling with that,

0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:40.600
<v Speaker 4>and where do people go when you lose someone who

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.759
<v Speaker 4>means a lot to you? And so they wanted to

0:40:42.880 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 4>sort of work it out on the page because it

0:40:45.480 --> 0:40:48.760
<v Speaker 4>was not a normal Melrose scene at all. You guys

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:51.520
<v Speaker 4>played it beautifully. It was such a beautiful scene, but

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 4>I thought, these are ideas we don't normally grapple with. It.

0:40:54.640 --> 0:40:56.600
<v Speaker 4>Is Michael going to have sex with Kimberly. That's kind

0:40:56.600 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 4>of where we.

0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Keep it usually, right, But I also all these has

0:41:00.560 --> 0:41:02.439
<v Speaker 2>layers that I didn't know it had because I kept

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.760
<v Speaker 2>thinking through this episode, which was very emotional and about

0:41:05.800 --> 0:41:09.560
<v Speaker 2>something that everyone can relate to or will relate to

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:10.920
<v Speaker 2>one day, but the.

0:41:10.920 --> 0:41:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Loss of a parent.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 2>That that when I thought back to before watching these

0:41:16.040 --> 0:41:17.560
<v Speaker 2>when I thought back to Malrows, I thought it was

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 2>just who's going to sleep with who and when and

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 2>then they're going to betraying. I thought it was just

0:41:20.760 --> 0:41:23.839
<v Speaker 2>that level. But I'm seeing by watching the show again,

0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.719
<v Speaker 2>it was multiple levels and these writers were really talented

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>at doing that and this to me, Uh, yes, it

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 2>was different than a typical you know, but I feel

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.880
<v Speaker 2>like it was. I think it's part of the glue

0:41:35.960 --> 0:41:38.319
<v Speaker 2>and the depth that that also had to be there

0:41:38.360 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 2>to make Melrose's success that it was. It just had

0:41:41.600 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>to be something had to be a little deeper because

0:41:43.800 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 2>we all can relate, you know, to these questions.

0:41:47.520 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not just who slept with who, or it just

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:50.759
<v Speaker 1>becomes a farce.

0:41:51.000 --> 0:41:53.279
<v Speaker 3>Right Well, it did sort of just come like just

0:41:53.320 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 3>as our episodes are ramping up and getting to be

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:57.680
<v Speaker 3>more you know, like just the back stubbing that had

0:41:57.719 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 3>just started the episode before, not the backstop, but you know,

0:42:00.640 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 3>like the I'm going to say what I think right

0:42:03.080 --> 0:42:05.359
<v Speaker 3>to your face and that stuff was starting to come out,

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:07.680
<v Speaker 3>and then to have it drop into this energy was

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 3>just such a shift.

0:42:09.640 --> 0:42:12.600
<v Speaker 4>But also to have it be so authentic, like sometimes

0:42:12.640 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 4>Melrose tries to has tried to take on deeper things

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 4>and you kind of roll your eyes, like this was

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:18.040
<v Speaker 4>really thoughtful. It was.

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a very good point, Joe, Like that was right

0:42:20.800 --> 0:42:24.319
<v Speaker 1>with it. Summer camp. I think having a summer camp. Yeah,

0:42:24.320 --> 0:42:24.600
<v Speaker 1>that was.

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 3>There was a little something like the details of that

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:29.719
<v Speaker 3>summer camp is you know how I envision it, and

0:42:29.719 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 3>there's soda and a dog.

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 1>But before that, it was.

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:34.240
<v Speaker 4>Like an energy.

0:42:34.320 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 2>You rejoin the energy, and there's a lot of that

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.760
<v Speaker 2>in the show that there was thing theme about regressing

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:42.200
<v Speaker 2>to a child. Billy talks about it with Alison. They

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 2>go back to your childhood bedroom, your dad's dead, you

0:42:45.400 --> 0:42:48.319
<v Speaker 2>kind of like regress back to these you know. And

0:42:48.360 --> 0:42:50.880
<v Speaker 2>so I felt like Joe was very childlike I always

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 2>when I was a kid.

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:53.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was summer camp.

0:42:53.080 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I just thought that innocent kind of

0:42:55.360 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 3>that was a really vulnerable thing to share. Like she

0:42:57.520 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 3>was just really honest about like this is a kind

0:42:59.520 --> 0:43:01.319
<v Speaker 3>of just the way I envision it, but she just

0:43:01.360 --> 0:43:04.640
<v Speaker 3>shared it with such an intimate and vulnerable sharing between

0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 3>the two of them.

0:43:05.280 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I like seeing it how it impacted the characters.

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.920
<v Speaker 4>I loved it that Matt took his dad out to lunch,

0:43:10.560 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 4>and the scene sort of came out of nowhere, but

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:16.080
<v Speaker 4>it was really you know, I like Billy's saying my

0:43:16.160 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 4>dad died. His reaction is I need to live my

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:21.200
<v Speaker 4>dad's life. And Matt's reaction is I don't want to

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:23.160
<v Speaker 4>miss this time, and he actually says to his dad,

0:43:23.360 --> 0:43:25.959
<v Speaker 4>I want to hear about your life. How is your work?

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 4>Like he finally, as a grown man, there's that moment

0:43:29.239 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 4>right where we see our parents as people and we

0:43:31.960 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 4>get to it's not just them asking us how our

0:43:34.160 --> 0:43:36.400
<v Speaker 4>day is, we go and how are you and actually

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 4>ask who they are, Like I really think at this

0:43:39.120 --> 0:43:40.960
<v Speaker 4>point in my life with my mom, I'm so lucky,

0:43:41.400 --> 0:43:44.400
<v Speaker 4>like we're really good friends. We had to re meet

0:43:45.160 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 4>as adults and have it be the two of us

0:43:48.400 --> 0:43:50.400
<v Speaker 4>as friends, because for so long it was like I

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 4>needed to be my mom and I rose, oh wait,

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 4>she is my mom obviously, but she's also a funny, smart,

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 4>interesting woman in her own right. Yeah, And I'm so

0:43:58.360 --> 0:44:00.160
<v Speaker 4>glad I get to meet her in that way. I

0:44:00.160 --> 0:44:02.040
<v Speaker 4>thought I loved that scene with mattin is Dead.

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was really glad that scene is in there,

0:44:03.960 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 3>and I think you're right, like the relationship you have

0:44:06.760 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 3>with your parents when you become an adult is so

0:44:10.920 --> 0:44:12.920
<v Speaker 3>different than the women you have as a child, but

0:44:12.960 --> 0:44:15.360
<v Speaker 3>of course it's colored by that, and so like there

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:18.360
<v Speaker 3>it's such a gratifying relationship when.

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>Well hopefully not always, not always. I mean for me, I.

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:25.799
<v Speaker 2>Had to really finally just let them off the hook,

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:27.400
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, like you really have to

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 2>like let them be. They were young when they had

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 2>a kid, and Jesus Daphne, like you can't, you know,

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 2>you just have to let them be human beings and

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.799
<v Speaker 2>with all their faults, and they try their best and

0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:43.399
<v Speaker 2>they're so great at these certain parts, you know, certain

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.239
<v Speaker 2>areas of being a parent, and now they're friends and

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:49.399
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're they get older and you're taking care

0:44:49.440 --> 0:44:50.720
<v Speaker 2>of them in ways.

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:51.080
<v Speaker 1>That you can.

0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:54.759
<v Speaker 2>But I thought that was really great to Courtney that

0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 2>scene and that I kind of ads to what I

0:44:57.400 --> 0:44:59.560
<v Speaker 2>was saying about this is like this kind of deeper

0:44:59.680 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 2>level in this whole episode, you know, like with the

0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 2>lines with our characters, because you did think usually Matt's

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.640
<v Speaker 2>having a scene with his dad because there's something to

0:45:09.680 --> 0:45:11.759
<v Speaker 2>be gained, you know, there's like a thing I need

0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you to do. I need you to see who I

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:14.960
<v Speaker 2>am and accept me for being gay, or I need

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:16.799
<v Speaker 2>you to do that. It was like, no, I just

0:45:16.840 --> 0:45:19.200
<v Speaker 2>want to know who you are. And that's the vulnerability

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:21.680
<v Speaker 2>we have when someone dies, like I just want to connect.

0:45:22.680 --> 0:45:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, because this letter that's read at the table

0:45:26.200 --> 0:45:30.080
<v Speaker 3>with Alison there at this family brunch and Billy's mom

0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:32.800
<v Speaker 3>says she can't bear to, you know, read this letter herself.

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:35.040
<v Speaker 3>Could could Alison read it out loud? She's like, you know,

0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 3>I just.

0:45:36.000 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 4>I must have asked for her lines that episode.

0:45:38.440 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 3>I got to read the letter, the letter, but like

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 3>she's like, you're you know, it's like you remember the

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:45.800
<v Speaker 3>family anyway, and so she, you know, sort of shares

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:48.319
<v Speaker 3>this thing. But it's like the things unsaid, the things

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.040
<v Speaker 3>that didn't get to be said to your face. Here

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:53.359
<v Speaker 3>you you have this opportunity to hear them now. These

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:55.719
<v Speaker 3>are the words that your father wanted to say to you,

0:45:56.640 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 3>and he put it in a letter and you get

0:45:58.080 --> 0:46:01.160
<v Speaker 3>to hear them now. Like it was such important information

0:46:01.320 --> 0:46:03.319
<v Speaker 3>for ability to hear. It was the very thing he

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 3>needed to hear, and it made it okay that you know,

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 3>the furniture store was no longer something he was going

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.640
<v Speaker 3>to pursue. It was like it was validating his desire

0:46:13.680 --> 0:46:15.640
<v Speaker 3>to be a writer and all the things that he

0:46:15.800 --> 0:46:18.760
<v Speaker 3>just absolutely needed to hear. But like that feeling of remorse,

0:46:18.960 --> 0:46:21.839
<v Speaker 3>like what if I don't say the things I need

0:46:21.880 --> 0:46:25.560
<v Speaker 3>to say while I'm still alive? You know that Matt

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:28.080
<v Speaker 3>took that and it's like, I'm I'm going to make

0:46:28.080 --> 0:46:29.440
<v Speaker 3>sure we connect.

0:46:31.000 --> 0:46:32.399
<v Speaker 1>It was really nice closure on that.

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:36.480
<v Speaker 4>I love that letter too. I felt like I also

0:46:36.800 --> 0:46:39.600
<v Speaker 4>thought it was really complicated and interesting and they're saying,

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 4>we don't you know, the dad was saying, we don't

0:46:41.560 --> 0:46:46.400
<v Speaker 4>communicate well in life. You're the writer, I'm not. But basically,

0:46:46.440 --> 0:46:48.239
<v Speaker 4>I'm proud of you and I love you, which is

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.400
<v Speaker 4>all he ever wanted, right and posthumously he wants to

0:46:51.440 --> 0:46:52.960
<v Speaker 4>work in the store to make his dad proud and

0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.400
<v Speaker 4>find out his dad was already proud. Then he can

0:46:55.480 --> 0:46:57.759
<v Speaker 4>let it go and I think we would all find out, right,

0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:00.480
<v Speaker 4>Like that's the thing about conversations when you you meet

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:03.399
<v Speaker 4>as peers, you get to just say, no, I'm proud

0:47:03.400 --> 0:47:05.600
<v Speaker 4>of you as a person, like I love you as

0:47:05.640 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 4>a person. If we're lucky enough to have parents and

0:47:07.719 --> 0:47:10.760
<v Speaker 4>kids that are available for that relationship, it's so sweet,

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:13.600
<v Speaker 4>and you felt like when Matt's dad seems so charmed,

0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 4>you know, and he go, yeah, let's have lunch first.

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:18.879
<v Speaker 4>But you could tell that he's a very good actor,

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:21.319
<v Speaker 4>their connections very yeah, I love this, tell that he

0:47:21.400 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 4>took it in in the right way and that you go, oh,

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:25.960
<v Speaker 4>this is the beginning of a really sweet friendship for you.

0:47:26.080 --> 0:47:27.800
<v Speaker 2>You could just see him at dinner that night talking

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.480
<v Speaker 2>to his wife like, I have the loveliest yeah with

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 2>our son, dear.

0:47:31.600 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so because if you think it means if.

0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:37.600
<v Speaker 2>You think it means something to you the child, imagine

0:47:37.600 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 2>what it means to the older person, the parent. You know,

0:47:40.840 --> 0:47:43.880
<v Speaker 2>they're older, they're in their middle age, they're getting older.

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:48.960
<v Speaker 3>It means I know, yes, yes, I know. So I

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:52.960
<v Speaker 3>guess next episode we should imagine that this Michael and

0:47:53.040 --> 0:47:58.680
<v Speaker 3>Kimberly thing is only you know, going to keep escalating, right,

0:47:58.760 --> 0:48:01.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I it was so right in front. I

0:48:01.880 --> 0:48:03.839
<v Speaker 3>can only guess that we're going to see so much

0:48:03.840 --> 0:48:05.000
<v Speaker 3>more of it in the next episode.

0:48:05.040 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 2>And I'm thinking that Ronda took care of ray Don

0:48:08.800 --> 0:48:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Cheng's character Carrie because Camber permission to fire him. She's like,

0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:17.080
<v Speaker 2>you got to fire this woman who's trying to get

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:20.560
<v Speaker 2>get you and he's like, I love when you're jealous.

0:48:20.560 --> 0:48:23.080
<v Speaker 2>She's like, this isn't funny. You got to fire her.

0:48:23.880 --> 0:48:25.720
<v Speaker 2>And then he says, we'll.

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:27.719
<v Speaker 1>Let you do that, baby, and she's like.

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I will, And so you know, she went back

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:33.080
<v Speaker 2>and I don't I don't know if we see her again,

0:48:33.160 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 2>but she took care of that, and I'm curious to

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 2>see what happens with that. With Carrie gone, and I'm

0:48:39.080 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 2>sure all the florals are going to leave too, because

0:48:41.320 --> 0:48:43.800
<v Speaker 2>remember there was that scene with Carrie coming in and talking.

0:48:43.600 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 1>About all the there's so many flowers in this episode,

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 1>like flowers every Yeah.

0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean I just had this vision of Terrence with

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:52.800
<v Speaker 2>all these.

0:48:52.640 --> 0:48:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Flowers, which he love, which is so annoying, Like, oh

0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:01.240
<v Speaker 3>my god, stop. All right, We're we're getting so invested

0:49:01.280 --> 0:49:02.120
<v Speaker 3>in all of our characters.

0:49:02.120 --> 0:49:04.800
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Well spring for us, we just had spring.

0:49:04.960 --> 0:49:08.359
<v Speaker 2>So it's not it's apropos that we had a springtime

0:49:08.920 --> 0:49:12.160
<v Speaker 2>with flowers abound in an episode exactly.

0:49:12.239 --> 0:49:13.320
<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely perfect.

0:49:13.640 --> 0:49:17.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, we can probably expect a complete tonal departure for

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:19.640
<v Speaker 3>the next episode. Probably I can't wait.

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 4>So I can't wait, either of you. Guys.

0:49:22.600 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Always great to see you always.

0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:25.279
<v Speaker 4>Seven is next?

0:49:25.400 --> 0:49:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy?

0:49:27.080 --> 0:49:30.640
<v Speaker 3>In one season, twenty seven episodes and it's not even

0:49:30.680 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 3>the end.

0:49:31.320 --> 0:49:33.759
<v Speaker 1>We're not even done, so all right, Even that.

0:49:33.760 --> 0:49:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Episode was called endgame, This is not the end, people,

0:49:37.040 --> 0:49:38.200
<v Speaker 3>There will be more.

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And it may have been like it would be interesting

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:40.879
<v Speaker 1>to see.

0:49:40.880 --> 0:49:42.680
<v Speaker 4>We should pay attention as we go forward, like how

0:49:42.680 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 4>many of these were just in case it was the end?

0:49:46.280 --> 0:49:49.400
<v Speaker 1>And then her, I'm sure we're supposed to be canceled

0:49:49.400 --> 0:49:49.799
<v Speaker 1>by now.

0:49:49.840 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 3>Right, she has a theory every episode is going to have.

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure this was the end. No, my dear, you

0:49:55.400 --> 0:49:56.920
<v Speaker 1>have a few more comings.

0:49:56.920 --> 0:49:59.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, this one says it was end game, but this

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:01.239
<v Speaker 3>is not the end. We will be back for more

0:50:01.360 --> 0:50:05.400
<v Speaker 3>still the place, including our next Melrose minute. And thanks

0:50:05.440 --> 0:50:08.680
<v Speaker 3>as always for tuning in. Don't forget to subscribe and download.

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<v Speaker 1>Please subscribe.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll see you next time.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody, see you next time.

0:50:12.640 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Bye,