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Speaker 1: Still The Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.

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Speaker 2: And daphnews Aniga an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 3: Hire for a recap, Yeah the Place, guys. We are

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Speaker 3: getting so close to the end of the season, and yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's sort of like the up and down of energy

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Speaker 3: of the episodes, like really fun stuff is starting to happen,

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Speaker 3: and then we have this one. It's a little bit yeah,

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Speaker 3: a little bit more emotional, a little bit a little

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Speaker 3: bit more down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good though. I thought everyone, especially Andrew, really

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Speaker 1: hit the mark on this one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He had a lot to do. He had the most

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Speaker 1: to do for sure.

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Speaker 3: This episode is called end Game and it was written

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Speaker 3: by Frank South, directed by James Frawley. And I would

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Speaker 3: like to start by pointing out at the beginning of

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Speaker 3: the episode that the pool cleaner is not Matt still

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Speaker 3: because you asked him. It's still not Matt. No, I'm

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Speaker 3: just noting like I saw that.

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Speaker 2: You just ask your husband in the other room if

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Speaker 2: he's ever cleaned the pool off.

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Speaker 1: Him?

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Speaker 4: I mean, oh, you can't identify him.

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Speaker 3: Did you not notice the pool cleaner?

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Speaker 1: It looks like that.

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Speaker 4: I think it looks like Doug.

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Speaker 1: You think it looks like Doug. Yes, yeah, you please

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Speaker 1: just ask him? Will hold funny?

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Speaker 3: Okay, So the second episode in the row you in

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Speaker 3: a row, you guys think it's Doug, and I'm convinced

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Speaker 3: it's not.

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Speaker 1: It's it's not.

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Speaker 2: I had a note this time it is Doug and

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Speaker 2: it was the same guy that it's just from the

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Speaker 2: back of the head and the camera moves in over him.

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Speaker 2: But I thought, I don't know, it looked like Doug.

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Speaker 1: Did you ask him, Laura, I hear you have ads hysterical.

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Speaker 1: You please just ask him. You know, in the next room.

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Speaker 1: We make it such a mystery. He's literally right over

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Speaker 1: there working out.

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Speaker 3: Probably Yeah, I do know where he usually hangs out,

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Speaker 3: so I I can confirm it is not Doug. Oh okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just think it's hysterical that you wrote the note

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Speaker 3: that it's definitely Doug the and I wrote not that

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Speaker 3: it's definitely Well, you you might know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I just maybe you should just take my word for it.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't you remember Scotty the props guy props He

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Speaker 2: used to do it all the time, and I really

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Speaker 2: haven't seen him yet.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he came like the regular pool guy later.

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Speaker 3: Right, I think he hasn't started being the pool guy

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Speaker 3: and maybe whoever this guy is, because we only see

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Speaker 3: this guy's back, Yeah, this pool Guy's back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: No, he's not going to be surprised to know that

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Speaker 4: this episode is not actually about the pool Guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it really feels like we're land Pipe.

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Speaker 3: Really, it's not remotely like that. I was so surprised

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Speaker 3: to find that we both had notes on it and

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Speaker 3: we were on such different pages of news. It's like

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Speaker 2: But so in order to bring managed expectations for the audience,

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Speaker 2: bring your mood back down to the soffer.

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Speaker 3: Land episode is not about the pool or the pool guy.

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Speaker 1: What is it about?

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Speaker 3: It is mainly about I have to say, this is

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Speaker 3: what this episode is mainly about, Billy finding out that

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Speaker 3: it's kind of an emotional episode throughout, and it's definitely

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Speaker 3: the main story is his journey through that. And at

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Speaker 3: the start of the episode, he's back in his lonely

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Speaker 3: and sadly. He learns early on that his father has

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Speaker 2: She shows up of the shadows one night in the courtyard,

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Speaker 3: Out of the shadows, saying hey, rude, yeah, and but

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Speaker 3: admirably he even turns her down, which I was pleased.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, even when she kissed him really slowly.

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Speaker 3: Very provocatively, come on sure, and he manages to say nope,

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Speaker 3: I think I need to just be alone tonight. So

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Speaker 3: he is. However, he does seem to be interested in

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well I'll wait to later go ahead, so

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Speaker 1: much to say about it?

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Speaker 3: So you just Keith is like a trigger word.

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Speaker 1: It's like, wait, he's not even in the episode. He's

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Speaker 1: pissing me off again. Yeah, I just.

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Speaker 2: I don't think William Moses would want to be a guest,

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Speaker 1: He be like, you have no thank you, ladies.

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Speaker 3: It's all we're really just just annoyed with Keith. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we love Billy Moses, lovely Keith character. But then Allison

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Speaker 4: And how much did you guys, I think we'll get

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Speaker 4: to it, but how much do you guys think?

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Speaker 1: Finally, well, I just felt like it was perfect.

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Speaker 3: But of course when she lands there, she's there just

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Speaker 2: She lands at Lax by the way, not that rinky

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Speaker 2: DNK Valley Airport, I'm sure, yeah, Elia, it's the famous

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we actually shot an churistic episode.

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Speaker 3: Well, and so when she sees Amanda sort of you know,

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Speaker 3: also manages to sneak in a comment to Allison about

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Speaker 3: And then Billy assures Allison that he and Amanda are

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Speaker 1: Even Allison doesn't want to sit on it. She's like you, yeah, no,

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Speaker 3: But this is where sort of the emotional cracks begin

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Speaker 1: I think all this double on tundra and.

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Speaker 4: Say it, just say it.

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Speaker 3: Of course it's coming back. So then when Billy feels

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Speaker 3: even has a random philosophical conversation about heaven. The next

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Speaker 1: And then before.

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Speaker 3: Alison flies back to Seattle, she and Billy attend a

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Speaker 3: Billy to be a writer. She then asks Alison to

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Speaker 3: for writing. So then at the airport again, Billy is

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Speaker 1: She doesn't like it there, she missed.

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Speaker 3: and he tells her that she should absolutely stay then,

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Speaker 2: Wonderful angle, high camera angle, so you could see down

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Speaker 3: It was a very cute and romantic way to end

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Speaker 2: Thinks zero disguised, Laura, zero disguise and fair.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 4: I was going to say, does anyone do a pointed

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Speaker 1: I mean, so obvious, so fun.

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Speaker 3: Everything she says, it's like, you know, if only you

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Speaker 3: Their scenes are super loaded with innuendo and tension, and

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Speaker 3: and you can see that he's clearly torn. He's, you know,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 3: And we also follow, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Thank god.

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Speaker 3: We also follow Randa and Terrence and the too close

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Speaker 3: for Comfort decorator undercase. Terrence an ultimatum saying either carry

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Speaker 3: after a few very annoying Terrency comments about loving seeing

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Speaker 3: Ronda so jealous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but she shut him right down. This is

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Speaker 3: So. And then Matt also uses this moment and the

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Speaker 3: loss of Billy's father to reconnect with his own father,

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Speaker 3: and they have a really nice scene towards the end

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Speaker 3: of the episode, not cleaning the pool, but where they

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Speaker 3: It's very sweet. And the episode has sort of got

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Speaker 2: Everyone else could happen kind of thing. I think the

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Speaker 2: death of that heart attack really took everyone.

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Speaker 1: You gotta like it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it was a really deep episode of my

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Speaker 1: He's like, I'm going to take over the store.

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Speaker 2: But it was all above, you know, in the head,

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Speaker 1: And it was such a beautiful scene that with.

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Speaker 4: You know, yeah we did. But we're going way to

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Speaker 3: Let's also point out this is another one of Billy's

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Speaker 3: because she's saying, because she's saying, you know, you blew it, Billy, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was a bad dream because I am, you know,

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Speaker 3: still alone. She's still gone. I'm still alone in this

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Speaker 2: But it's funny you say that look for that it's

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Speaker 1: That would be Billy's sexy Emma, Yeah, I don't I

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Nighty Courtney, And I'm sorry it brought up like feelings

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Speaker 4: I was just remembering how it felt, and I was like, God,

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Speaker 4: saw that scene they're talking about. Do we go right

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Speaker 3: So exactly. So like those things are overlapping. While Billy's

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Speaker 1: You and I have to say, it reminded me. Remember

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Speaker 2: I lived with Darren in this dumpy little apartment in

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Speaker 1: Like Kimberly was. I was a college kid like okay.

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Speaker 1: But we lived in there and I had a roommate

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Speaker 2: You can imagine that, as tiny as these rooms are,

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Speaker 1: And then she he had a roommate. And it just

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Speaker 3: And she goes over after the dinner, she goes, like,

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Speaker 3: I feel like she gamely sort of goes along with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and she's being really polite about it, like looking into

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Speaker 2: Maybe Kimberly wanted to do this because it meant he

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Speaker 1: Time with Michael right this dinner, but then.

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Speaker 2: She would have to see the wife because she keeps

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was my thought, like your.

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Speaker 2: to what she dinner Michael.

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Speaker 4: She's going on and on, like Michael's going on and on.

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Speaker 4: He says, he says, we should do dinner, and then

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Speaker 4: Kimberly goes, is your wife coming too? And then at

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Speaker 4: Jose's like, what do you like.

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Speaker 1: She's like, you're not they're not getting married, Michael. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then in that same thing, she's talking about complaining

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was so not not thinly discussied.

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Speaker 4: She just takes at those lines.

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Speaker 2: Totally and he's like keeps playing like oh well yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well you can tell he's completely like into it.

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Speaker 4: Like he's kind of not quite doing it, but you

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Speaker 1: He's definitely she's coming on like a bulldozer.

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Speaker 2: I mean that Kimberly is like leaving. No, he's literally

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Speaker 4: And then she goes she goes, I have some meat

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Speaker 4: in the fresh Yeah, speaking of meats, wine, I.

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Speaker 1: Have a bottle of line, But I guess you have

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Speaker 1: to go home to your wife.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to try that. Maybe that's why I'm not

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Speaker 4: Maybe that's the line, and.

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Speaker 1: I could cook it. I could have.

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Speaker 2: Swear, I said, at these settings, so we can have

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Speaker 1: He's definitely trying to thumb up because this is where

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Speaker 3: You can make a big rain cloud like a storm

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Speaker 1: You go you no, Michael, don't do it.

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Speaker 3: But I thought it was really funny. Back to that

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Speaker 1: It's like he's charming, he's funny.

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Speaker 3: He breaks the attention. That's obviously so you know, awkward

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Speaker 3: he did. But so then it's then when he when

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Speaker 3: is like they're assuming the doctor's going to come out

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Speaker 4: I know you listened to a lot of the scene.

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Speaker 4: All I could look at were her shoulder pads.

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Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, right, they were a flowery or something. It

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Speaker 4: Do you remember that time though? Shoulder pads are big.

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Speaker 4: I remember remember Home Shopping Network had just started, and

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Speaker 4: I remember buying from Home Shopping Network like a box

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Speaker 4: shoulder pads and you would tuck them in and you'd

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Speaker 1: They would fall out and all of a sudden you'd

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Speaker 3: Do you think that she also had one in her

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Speaker 3: they just used to like pump it up a little bit, kind.

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00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 4: Of like she wandered over from Dynasty. She was very

444
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 4: but you yeah, And I also felt like her character

445
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 4: was sort of in a Tennessee Williams play the whole time.

446
00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:18,600
Speaker 1: Like it was.

447
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,840
Speaker 3: It was very dramatic and stuff, and it was like, whoa,

448
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,280
Speaker 3: this is jarring and a little bit everything was a

449
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 3: little bit surreal and kind of weird. Like when Billy

450
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 3: went home, I just felt like his home life and

451
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 3: his relationships and stuff, and his mom's dynamic.

452
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,439
Speaker 1: It was very very experience. There was a totally it

453
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: felt different.

454
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 4: It did. It felt different tonally, like they came in

455
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 4: with this intensity. I was confused different. That's a good point. Yeah,

456
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: that's an interesting point.

457
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,280
Speaker 3: I was confused. But you know, so they learned in

458
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: the hospital that that his dad is dead, and Billy

459
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,080
Speaker 3: goes home. He's just sort of numb and that's when

460
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: he owners all of his Like Melrose.

461
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 1: The friends come over.

462
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 4: Says, is your dad you know if you need anything,

463
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 4: of your dad needs help the hospital and goes he's dead.

464
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,360
Speaker 4: It was just like felt like a thud.

465
00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, which made it easier for them to avoid

466
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 3: talking about Matt's loud shirt and his really long mullet.

467
00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, colorful shirt. Just had to see the kids.

468
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 3: At least we could ignore, because when Matt first steps

469
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 3: out of his apartment, I'm.

470
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,040
Speaker 4: Like, well, yeah, that was right.

471
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: It was cool.

472
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,119
Speaker 3: It was a lot a big print, but you know,

473
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: he was just kind of.

474
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 2: Like was like, nope, I got everything settled, I'm good,

475
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 2: you know. And then I think it was Joe and Jake.

476
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 2: Michael and Jane came over to say they're sorry, and

477
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 2: then Joe and Jake come over, and he was.

478
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: Kind of out of it. I think he was still stunned.

479
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 1: I think yeah, And.

480
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,679
Speaker 4: I thinked like too. I think I still like so

481
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 4: good in that scene because I could see that Joe knew,

482
00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,399
Speaker 4: like he was saying I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine,

483
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,120
Speaker 4: and I could really see on your face that you knew,

484
00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:01,199
Speaker 4: which is why the late scene that will get you

485
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 4: but played so well when you bring the coffee machine

486
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 4: over because you you had had this shared experience with him,

487
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 4: which is which is rare at that age, right most Yeah,

488
00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 4: I had lost her moment. Yeah, so you I could

489
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 4: see and I was like, oh, she knows. I actually

490
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 4: wrote that down. She knows he's not.

491
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: I really like that scene that we had that we'll

492
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: talk about in a minute.

493
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 3: But and Jane, Jane is also commenting. She's like, I

494
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 3: don't think he's expressing his emotions, like he's not, you know,

495
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,240
Speaker 3: And Michael sort of like, yeah, yeah, he'll get to that.

496
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 4: It's just going to do He's fun. I got to

497
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 4: go back to the hospital. Do you really is that

498
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 4: where you're going? Cut to I'm under the sink cleaning

499
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 4: the pipes, the lining and the pipes. Yep, the lies

500
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 4: are already Star was a lie, and it's starting.

501
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,280
Speaker 2: Yes, he's like he's in that kind of like yeah,

502
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: there's I don't know, he's in that kind.

503
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: Of like buffoon is kind of like, oh, what are

504
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:52,960
Speaker 1: you talking about? And then you know, I came on,

505
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: coming on, I'm married, let me come clean your back.

506
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 1: Now he's lying to his wife.

507
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 2: Yes, latantly, I expected that he was going to go

508
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,840
Speaker 2: back to the hospital because and then he gets to

509
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: see Kimberly.

510
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: But then he's like there under her sink.

511
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: Right, and he uses the excuse like, oh, I've been

512
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 3: at this funeral all day. I haven't been to the hospital.

513
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: I need to go see patients. He just blatantly lies

514
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 3: and we cut straight to underneath.

515
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 2: And I think Jane was a little I think I

516
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: picked up from Josie like a little did you guys

517
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: see this?

518
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,879
Speaker 1: Like I don't know.

519
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 2: About this because she's now seen her quite a few

520
00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: or a few times, saw Kimberly, sees what she's like,

521
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: sees that, you know, he was over bored on talking

522
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: up her, you know, assets and how great she was

523
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: at that dinner. So now he's like, I have to

524
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,719
Speaker 2: go back to the hospital. I saw a little bit

525
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 2: of suspicion or something.

526
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 3: Well, she's definitely disappointed that he's not just staying home

527
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 3: and being with her.

528
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's related. I think it's story forwards.

529
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 4: She might know about all of Kimberly's meat. I think

530
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: so how much that they're going to eat it.

531
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 2: I think she's going to go out to Ralph's and

532
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,800
Speaker 2: get a steak and some wine and Jane and.

533
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 1: Put and Frederie boy has all that meat.

534
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: I have to say, Jean was a little bit dressed

535
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: like Charlie Chaplin for the funeral, which.

536
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting too.

537
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a cute little velvet bucket hat, but.

538
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: There was a giant overcoat. Yeah, a giant pant over

539
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 1: her cute.

540
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm sure it was a pin stripe cute pin stripe

541
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,840
Speaker 3: suit on underneath, but the giant coat with it, plus

542
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 3: the hat.

543
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: She was just like, this is nineteen ninety three.

544
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 3: It did not need she did not need all that

545
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 3: fabric and she it was a little bit Charlie Chaplin was.

546
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety three.

547
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 4: Here's a fashions got to be super fashion forward, I guess.

548
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was trying something new and she got it

549
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 3: and we didn't.

550
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

551
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,639
Speaker 2: I mean, let's you know, I think those the palazzo pants,

552
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 2: the white pants, all that fabric that, you know, was

553
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: big back then. I know that Joe did after a while.

554
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 2: Right now, she's still in her kind of black jeans face.

555
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 2: But after a while we got in some of these

556
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: all these printed sort of flowy pants and floey shirts too.

557
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,959
Speaker 3: But you know, I don't mind palazza pants. What I

558
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 3: don't like is parachute pants. Have to say remember.

559
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: Those Oh that's nineties two, isn't it.

560
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Pat mc hammer.

561
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: Taking a stand on thank you.

562
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 4: Somebody finally did Laura thank I'm different.

563
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: Had the courage.

564
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just gonna see it.

565
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 4: We skipped over that after Billy sees Matt Amanda comes

566
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 4: out of the shadows and she says to him, I've

567
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: been waiting for you.

568
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

569
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,439
Speaker 4: She appears are dockery, creepy, yeah, but incredibly beautiful stocker

570
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 4: about running. That really softens it. And then she says,

571
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 4: would you like me to stay over?

572
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 3: I'd like to.

573
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 4: So this is not the show of subtle women like

574
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 4: this this episode, it's not women being subtle.

575
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: And I read the the show.

576
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: I really thought Andrew played it like so he was

577
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: so firm and strong, like I'm not, no, you know,

578
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 3: he wasn't even like a little bit tempted. And I

579
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,679
Speaker 3: just thought, good for you, Billy.

580
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. And that's when he goes home and gets a

581
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 4: message from Alison and calls and Keith answers, and I'm like, oh, yeah, Keith,

582
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 4: we all had the same reactions when everybody misses. Yeah,

583
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 4: when people just miss But you.

584
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 3: Know, all of this like before, before all of this

585
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 3: has happened, we haven't quite touched yet on the weirdness

586
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 3: of the sister because Billy has to go pick up

587
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 3: his sister at the airport who's flying in for the

588
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,920
Speaker 3: for the funeral, right, and it's that it's with her

589
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 3: that he has this conversation outside the airport as they're

590
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 3: getting into his car about, yeah, he thinks, you know

591
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: that he might take over the furniture store, because she's

592
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 3: the one who says I always told Dad he should

593
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: retire earlier, and you know that he was it was

594
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 3: too much and he should retire. And I think he

595
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: was just waiting for you to take on the store.

596
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 3: And then he goes, well, actually I'm thinking of doing that,

597
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 3: and she yells at him, She's.

598
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,920
Speaker 1: Like, stop talking business like she just sort of it's

599
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: like the weird moment.

600
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: I was like, what is this relationship? Did you guys

601
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: get confused?

602
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: I didn't.

603
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,479
Speaker 2: I didn't feel the relationship. I don't think we've did.

604
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 2: Is this the only time we saw him.

605
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 4: I was wondering that if we'd established it had a

606
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: sister before, I don't think so.

607
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't know.

608
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: I feel like you know it wasn't written with a

609
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: familiarity of these two characters. And this guest star comes

610
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 2: in and it's supposed to be like very dramatic. You know,

611
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 2: she reads it and she finds out her dad just

612
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: died and stuff.

613
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: So there's that.

614
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I think like it was written for her

615
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,120
Speaker 3: to do that. It wasn't like, yeah, she.

616
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: Keeps calling him little brother, little brother, and he's like,

617
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: stop calling me that. It was just I agree with you, Laura,

618
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 2: it's just awkward. I didn't understand the relationship. And then

619
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 2: when I saw her bedroom, I really didn't understand her

620
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: because it's like either a dumb it's like a queen

621
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: or a king size or two twins pushed together, brass framed.

622
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: With all this flowers everywhere.

623
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 3: Floral bedding, floral wallpaper, but different florals, just like different everywhere.

624
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the nineties. You never know.

625
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 3: The dad's old suits still hanging in the closet, you know,

626
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: the mom's like, I'm sorry, he was using this for

627
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 3: his work closet, and Billy just sort of recognizes the

628
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 3: suits in there, and he's really thinking about this furniture

629
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: store and really becoming the furniture guy.

630
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: It's always interesting with situations like this because this is

631
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: a show about all the kids together, right, all of

632
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 2: us in this building, each of us have families. So

633
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: whenever they're hired and we have scenes with them, it's

634
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 2: the first and probably maybe the last time we're going

635
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: to see these people. And the writers also don't know.

636
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: There's nothing, there's no familiarity, there's no like thing to

637
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: anchor it. So sometimes it works, and sometimes you're just

638
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,959
Speaker 2: kind of like they're on another planet, you know, well, right,

639
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: because it's sudden backstory, like you just suddenly have to

640
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,479
Speaker 2: tell your backstory in this scene when we're meeting you.

641
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 3: We have to learn all about this relationship all once,

642
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,479
Speaker 3: and you know, based on these circumstances, but also like

643
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 3: me give you the backstory. And it's just like it

644
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: was jarring. I just felt like it was jarring and

645
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: it was just a little odd tonally.

646
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: It was just weird.

647
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I know what you mean. She came

648
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 4: in really hot, but I think she only had a

649
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 4: couple scenes.

650
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, with what was written for her that way.

651
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 4: It was written that way. Yeah, and they so it

652
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 4: felt like I like what you said about it feeling

653
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: like a play like that storyline felt like a really

654
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 4: separate thing. And then we go back to our familiar

655
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 4: Melrose Place. And it's true when you introduce someone's family,

656
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, you've got this whole new cast

657
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 4: of characters, and our Melrose Place is our family now.

658
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: So we're trying to introduce these people.

659
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 4: And she has to be there to help him get

660
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 4: to the breakdown at the end, right well.

661
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 3: And just yeah, and his thought that being the furniture

662
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: man was the thing that would make his father proud.

663
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 3: And for some reason that makes the system.

664
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: There's a really nice path with the screen.

665
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: And it does. It does all end up in the right.

666
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 1: Place, really nice.

667
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a sweet scene at the funeral. I always

668
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 4: love it when we're all together, even at a funeral.

669
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: And Doug looks very handsome in his turtleneck.

670
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 3: Did you notice, well, maybe he tucked some of his

671
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 3: mullet into the back of the turtleck.

672
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: No, of course, he looked very handsome. He did.

673
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 4: He looked very handsome. Didn't have any dialogue at the

674
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: Joe had very big funeral hair.

675
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 1: Big funeral dude.

676
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 4: You notice you got all all done up for the funeral.

677
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 3: Joe has had really bouncy hair lately.

678
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,760
Speaker 2: You know who I thought, Amanda? I mean, she was

679
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: right at a dynasty hair. The falcon crust was pulled

680
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: back French twist.

681
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: Was it kind of a high updo?

682
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, very like this.

683
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: It was so not Amanda, all of us had.

684
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: It's kind of like, wow, we're going to a funeral,

685
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: We're just gonna change it all up.

686
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Charlie Chaplin on.

687
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Jay Joe's like all curly and bouncy. Amanda's up like

688
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: you know, Linda, I don't know. It just seemed very

689
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: Why do people do that for funerals?

690
00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 3: I don't know, like out of the norm. The priest

691
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 3: or whoever was saying the words over the grave, you know,

692
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 3: he was I think he got the memos because he

693
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 3: was a little bit Tennessee Williams too. I thought the

694
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: whole thing was very Usha yes to Usha's yes.

695
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 4: Well, then we're looking at it, and I am, of

696
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 4: course yelling at the screen because that's why I want

697
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 4: to watch you together one day, so we can all

698
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 4: yell at the screen because West, where are you? I

699
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 4: was so annoyed, and then all of a sudden, you

700
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: see after and this was a little I don't know

701
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: if you guys caught this little mistake. But she shows

702
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: up after the funeral, and then later she tells Billy's

703
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: mom was a lovely service and.

704
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Don't want to go you loved say you weren't there.

705
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 4: But after the service, the cab pulls up and I

706
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 4: think Billy was talking to Amanda at the time, right,

707
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 4: aren't they having a little conversation.

708
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,400
Speaker 1: And then he looks over and sees Alison.

709
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: That's where she's kind of, you know, nuzzling up to

710
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 3: him again, saying, you know, if you need anything.

711
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: She's man, I mean he already rejected her. I know

712
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 2: he didn't invite her to the funeral, but she's right.

713
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,080
Speaker 2: Amanda shows up anyway, even though she was rejected by

714
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 2: Billy after their breakup last episode, and she shows up anyway,

715
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: and then she's gonna nuzzle up next to him in

716
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: front of Alison like it's just it's endless, like it's

717
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: it's I don't know, I'm speechless.

718
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: It's very Amanda.

719
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: It's very very She has no emotion, no shame, no humility,

720
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 2: no insecurity about just popping up at a funeral and.

721
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: Saying, Hey, I'm gonna make your girlfriend jealous.

722
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, And also like at the end, when you know

723
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 3: he's got his mom, she leaves in the limo and

724
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: Amanda goes her own way, and it's just Alison and Billy.

725
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 3: Billy wants to like lament the flowers and stuff at

726
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: the ceremony, which he's like angry with the sister for

727
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 3: setting up all the wrong flowers roses, which his father

728
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: was allergic to and would have hated, and he's sort

729
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 3: of lamenting that, And I just I felt like to

730
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: your point, Court Alison had to sort of like talk

731
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: him down off that, like, hey, it's okay, you know.

732
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 3: And so like when she later says it was a

733
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: lovely service, I feel like almost even though yeah, she

734
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: was lying, she didn't actually see it, I feel like

735
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: it was Alison also just trying to go everybody, everything's okay,

736
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: it was a lovely service, you know. Like it was

737
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 3: like I.

738
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 2: Don't remember her being asked about the service. I remember

739
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: the mom saying, do you think I went overboard on

740
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: the flowers?

741
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: And she said no, it was.

742
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 3: Lovely, right, So she was like trying to say yes.

743
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: And the last shot of the whole scene is all

744
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: of these flowers, like there were a ton of flowers.

745
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 2: They were right, they went overboard of the flowers. Yeah,

746
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 2: and they're cleaning them up and taking them away.

747
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 3: But Alison's the one who's being diplomatic there, going yeah, totally,

748
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 3: everything is fine. It was lovely, you know, like get

749
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 3: don't you know.

750
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: To all Alison's back. Yeah.

751
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: That was such a sweet scene of them by the car,

752
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 4: and I really felt in that moment. I thought, oh,

753
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 4: I get really get why people are rooting for these

754
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 4: crazy kids, right And you could see that Andrew and

755
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: I were two people who really care about each other,

756
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 4: and I thought, oh, that was such a That was

757
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,240
Speaker 4: really a sweet scene to see them come back together.

758
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: And then when they walked back into the apartment and

759
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 4: they're out of their funeral clothes and they're just in

760
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 4: their casual clothes on the floor, I was like, oh,

761
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 4: they're home. Didn't it feel like, yeah, oh, they're home.

762
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 2: I really saw at some point in this I forget

763
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: it was one of your close ups or one of

764
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 2: the scenes, probably halfway through the last half of it,

765
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 2: where I saw I really saw, this is the heart.

766
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 2: You were the pulsing heart of the show right now,

767
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 2: the stories which which it goes on, but it really

768
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: was like all this other stuff sort of happens, but

769
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 2: you're like, ah, we're back to come on, we come on, guys.

770
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: You know we see your love, we know you care,

771
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 2: but I don't.

772
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: Know why you can't say it.

773
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: But it was really important and I could see why

774
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: the audience just loves this couple.

775
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: You know, made sound was really cute.

776
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: And in that scene in the apartment is where you know,

777
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 3: he tries to ask her about Seattle and she's like, oh,

778
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: it's fine, it's fine, we're going to do this, you know,

779
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 3: next week and it's gonna be great.

780
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:52,240
Speaker 1: It's fine.

781
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 3: She's just brief and short, but like you can even

782
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 3: start to see her cracks showing like that wasn't a

783
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 3: very like authentic answer, Like I don't think I got

784
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: the whole story in that answer. And she's like, well,

785
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 3: you know, how are you doing and whatever? And he

786
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 3: when she questions him about like the furniture store plan

787
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 3: that he has, that's when he loses it and he's like,

788
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: what do you even care? You you left, and that's

789
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: where he starts to show his emotions about her leaving,

790
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 3: and he's really, this is this is what it's about.

791
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 3: It's like I need you, I miss you, I loved you,

792
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 3: I'm you know you left you. But he you know

793
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 3: that he's She's the only one he's safe to reveal

794
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: his emotions to. And so that's why when he's like,

795
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 3: I got I got to get out of here, and

796
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: let's you know, he goes to take out his anger

797
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 3: at the carnival or whatever.

798
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: It just ends up being.

799
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 4: Well what he says, because I wrote it down because

800
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 4: I love that scene too. He says, don't come down

801
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 4: your neck like you give a damn And then Allison says,

802
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: you don't really think you can scare me away that easily,

803
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 4: do you?

804
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

805
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 4: And it's very sweet, Yeah, because most of their game

806
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 4: has been him sort of chasing her and her sort

807
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 4: of being so it's nice to see it reversed where

808
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: he's sort of acting and she's saying, I'm here and

809
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 4: I'm here with you. I'm not going anywhere. It's good

810
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 4: to see the show.

811
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 2: I mean at this point, you know, which I've been

812
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 2: wondering in other scenes as well, Why can't why haven't

813
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 2: they what's keeping them from being together? Honestly, as human

814
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: I talked about, I get the conceit of the script

815
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:17,760
Speaker 2: and YadA, YadA, YadA.

816
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: You know what did Chuck say?

817
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: Because it's at one point it's too much, like it

818
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: just doesn't make sense.

819
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: It makes no sense.

820
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: Well, now that's what's hard about these shows. And you know,

821
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 4: I just watched Bones and then I watched Castle and

822
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: Nick Conceited is the same in both. Right, everyone knows

823
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: that these two lead characters are in love. They have

824
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 4: to keep them apart for season.

825
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 1: Have to keep them apart.

826
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to keep them apart. You have to

827
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 4: just is the one that loved me? In this scene

828
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 4: where I said, uh, it seems so often so much

829
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 4: goes unsaid, but so many times we hear it. Maybe

830
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 4: you didn't say I love you, but he heard you anyway.

831
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 4: I'm like, hello, yeah.

832
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: I mean And she says there's an invisible string between

833
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 2: two people, and this is he's plocking about his dad,

834
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: people who literally and.

835
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't bring it up, and like, there you wanted

836
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: to kiss?

837
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: So I get that they're This means the writers are

838
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: being very successful at what they're.

839
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: Supposed to do because we're so frustrated.

840
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: But I just know, yeah, at this point, because we

841
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 3: can see very clearly what they're.

842
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 2: Not married at this point, I mean, especially after We'll

843
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 2: see what happens now that she's left Keith sin Seattle.

844
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,879
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, like, we're not interested in each other

845
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 4: at the same time, right, there's something going on that

846
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 4: always keeps us a little bit a little bit. Now,

847
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 4: we want to keep that tension because that's what keeps

848
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 4: you coming back week after week.

849
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:31,919
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens next week.

850
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 3: Ye, we'll see what happens if they.

851
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: We know by the end of this episode.

852
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 3: That she decides to stay. Yeah.

853
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. You see her going up the stairs and you're like,

854
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: oh boy, there she goes again, and she just turns

855
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 2: around and says, I hate it. I don't care about

856
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 2: the At least she didn't say I didn't care about

857
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: the environment.

858
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: Because he is an environment. She did, I don't care

859
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: about this.

860
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: Don't even he oh, the Pacific Northwest or something.

861
00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: It was something that.

862
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 3: I was like the Olympic Peninsula or something, the Olympic.

863
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 4: She was like time alone was Keith was not our friend,

864
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: like it did not when it's just its in her friends,

865
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 4: because it's just Keith and this is not good Keith.

866
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, can we talk about the philosophical conversation between Billy

867
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 5: Joe about heaven when she Joe comes over to deliver

868
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 5: a coffee pot and it's sort of like a peace offering,

869
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 5: and you see that, like both of them are like, hey,

870
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 5: let's let's get past this and let's be friends or whatever.

871
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: It was super sweet gesture and stuff. And he invites

872
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 3: her in and they're setting up the coffee pot and

873
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 3: they end up he's and she's like, yeah, you can

874
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: use me as a sounding board and he's like, okay,

875
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: sounding board. And then I think he's going to ask

876
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 3: something like let me ask you a question. I think

877
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: he's going to ask something about Alison. And instead of that,

878
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: he's like, where do you think people go when they die?

879
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 3: It's like what the question was so funny, Like I

880
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 3: was expecting a.

881
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: Comp I thought it was gonna be like, what how

882
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: was it for you when your mom died? Like I

883
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 2: thought I was going to have something related to the

884
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: deaths of both of their parents.

885
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: I was thinking, very surfacing, very melrosine.

886
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 3: I was expecting that, and said I got like a deep,

887
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 3: like you know, tangential philosophical thing.

888
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 2: I wonder if the writers was right on his father

889
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: just died of a heart attack and her mother died.

890
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I'm.

891
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 3: Just telling you how shallow I was and what my

892
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: expectation was.

893
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's fair.

894
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 4: You No, I love it, but I thought I was.

895
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: I was wondering if one of the writers had just

896
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 4: lost a parent, because it felt like one of those

897
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 4: where you're grappling with that, and I thought that might

898
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 4: make a good Mel's minute if we want to talk

899
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 4: about that after. But when you're really grappling with that,

900
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 4: and where do people go when you lose someone who

901
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 4: means a lot to you? And so they wanted to

902
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: sort of work it out on the page because it

903
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 4: was not a normal Melrose scene at all. You guys

904
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 4: played it beautifully. It was such a beautiful scene, but

905
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: I thought, these are ideas we don't normally grapple with. It.

906
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 4: Is Michael going to have sex with Kimberly. That's kind

907
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 4: of where we.

908
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: Keep it usually, right, But I also all these has

909
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,439
Speaker 2: layers that I didn't know it had because I kept

910
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: thinking through this episode, which was very emotional and about

911
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 2: something that everyone can relate to or will relate to

912
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: one day, but the.

913
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: Loss of a parent.

914
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 2: That that when I thought back to before watching these

915
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 2: when I thought back to Malrows, I thought it was

916
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: just who's going to sleep with who and when and

917
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: then they're going to betraying. I thought it was just

918
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 2: that level. But I'm seeing by watching the show again,

919
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: it was multiple levels and these writers were really talented

920
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: at doing that and this to me, Uh, yes, it

921
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 2: was different than a typical you know, but I feel

922
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: like it was. I think it's part of the glue

923
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: and the depth that that also had to be there

924
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,560
Speaker 2: to make Melrose's success that it was. It just had

925
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: to be something had to be a little deeper because

926
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 2: we all can relate, you know, to these questions.

927
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: It's not just who slept with who, or it just

928
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: becomes a farce.

929
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: Right Well, it did sort of just come like just

930
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: as our episodes are ramping up and getting to be

931
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 3: more you know, like just the back stubbing that had

932
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 3: just started the episode before, not the backstop, but you know,

933
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: like the I'm going to say what I think right

934
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 3: to your face and that stuff was starting to come out,

935
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: and then to have it drop into this energy was

936
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 3: just such a shift.

937
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 4: But also to have it be so authentic, like sometimes

938
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 4: Melrose tries to has tried to take on deeper things

939
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 4: and you kind of roll your eyes, like this was

940
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 4: really thoughtful. It was.

941
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 1: It's a very good point, Joe, Like that was right

942
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: with it. Summer camp. I think having a summer camp. Yeah,

943
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: that was.

944
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: There was a little something like the details of that

945
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 3: summer camp is you know how I envision it, and

946
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: there's soda and a dog.

947
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 1: But before that, it was.

948
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 4: Like an energy.

949
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: You rejoin the energy, and there's a lot of that

950
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 2: in the show that there was thing theme about regressing

951
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: to a child. Billy talks about it with Alison. They

952
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: go back to your childhood bedroom, your dad's dead, you

953
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 2: kind of like regress back to these you know. And

954
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 2: so I felt like Joe was very childlike I always

955
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: when I was a kid.

956
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was summer camp.

957
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just thought that innocent kind of

958
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 3: that was a really vulnerable thing to share. Like she

959
00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 3: was just really honest about like this is a kind

960
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 3: of just the way I envision it, but she just

961
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: shared it with such an intimate and vulnerable sharing between

962
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: the two of them.

963
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like seeing it how it impacted the characters.

964
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: I loved it that Matt took his dad out to lunch,

965
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 4: and the scene sort of came out of nowhere, but

966
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 4: it was really you know, I like Billy's saying my

967
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 4: dad died. His reaction is I need to live my

968
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 4: dad's life. And Matt's reaction is I don't want to

969
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: miss this time, and he actually says to his dad,

970
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,959
Speaker 4: I want to hear about your life. How is your work?

971
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: Like he finally, as a grown man, there's that moment

972
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 4: right where we see our parents as people and we

973
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 4: get to it's not just them asking us how our

974
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 4: day is, we go and how are you and actually

975
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 4: ask who they are, Like I really think at this

976
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 4: point in my life with my mom, I'm so lucky,

977
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 4: like we're really good friends. We had to re meet

978
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: as adults and have it be the two of us

979
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 4: as friends, because for so long it was like I

980
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 4: needed to be my mom and I rose, oh wait,

981
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 4: she is my mom obviously, but she's also a funny, smart,

982
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 4: interesting woman in her own right. Yeah, And I'm so

983
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 4: glad I get to meet her in that way. I

984
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 4: thought I loved that scene with mattin is Dead.

985
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was really glad that scene is in there,

986
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: and I think you're right, like the relationship you have

987
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: with your parents when you become an adult is so

988
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: different than the women you have as a child, but

989
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 3: of course it's colored by that, and so like there

990
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 3: it's such a gratifying relationship when.

991
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: Well hopefully not always, not always. I mean for me, I.

992
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 2: Had to really finally just let them off the hook,

993
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like you really have to

994
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: like let them be. They were young when they had

995
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: a kid, and Jesus Daphne, like you can't, you know,

996
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 2: you just have to let them be human beings and

997
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: with all their faults, and they try their best and

998
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,399
Speaker 2: they're so great at these certain parts, you know, certain

999
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 2: areas of being a parent, and now they're friends and

1000
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 2: you know, you're they get older and you're taking care

1001
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 2: of them in ways.

1002
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: That you can.

1003
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 2: But I thought that was really great to Courtney that

1004
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 2: scene and that I kind of ads to what I

1005
00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: was saying about this is like this kind of deeper

1006
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: level in this whole episode, you know, like with the

1007
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 2: lines with our characters, because you did think usually Matt's

1008
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: having a scene with his dad because there's something to

1009
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: be gained, you know, there's like a thing I need

1010
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: you to do. I need you to see who I

1011
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 2: am and accept me for being gay, or I need

1012
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 2: you to do that. It was like, no, I just

1013
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: want to know who you are. And that's the vulnerability

1014
00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: we have when someone dies, like I just want to connect.

1015
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, because this letter that's read at the table

1016
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 3: with Alison there at this family brunch and Billy's mom

1017
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 3: says she can't bear to, you know, read this letter herself.

1018
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 3: Could could Alison read it out loud? She's like, you know,

1019
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 3: I just.

1020
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: I must have asked for her lines that episode.

1021
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 3: I got to read the letter, the letter, but like

1022
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: she's like, you're you know, it's like you remember the

1023
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 3: family anyway, and so she, you know, sort of shares

1024
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,319
Speaker 3: this thing. But it's like the things unsaid, the things

1025
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: that didn't get to be said to your face. Here

1026
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 3: you you have this opportunity to hear them now. These

1027
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 3: are the words that your father wanted to say to you,

1028
00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: and he put it in a letter and you get

1029
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 3: to hear them now. Like it was such important information

1030
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 3: for ability to hear. It was the very thing he

1031
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 3: needed to hear, and it made it okay that you know,

1032
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: the furniture store was no longer something he was going

1033
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 3: to pursue. It was like it was validating his desire

1034
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 3: to be a writer and all the things that he

1035
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 3: just absolutely needed to hear. But like that feeling of remorse,

1036
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: like what if I don't say the things I need

1037
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 3: to say while I'm still alive? You know that Matt

1038
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: took that and it's like, I'm I'm going to make

1039
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 3: sure we connect.

1040
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 1: It was really nice closure on that.

1041
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 4: I love that letter too. I felt like I also

1042
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 4: thought it was really complicated and interesting and they're saying,

1043
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 4: we don't you know, the dad was saying, we don't

1044
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:46,400
Speaker 4: communicate well in life. You're the writer, I'm not. But basically,

1045
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 4: I'm proud of you and I love you, which is

1046
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 4: all he ever wanted, right and posthumously he wants to

1047
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: work in the store to make his dad proud and

1048
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:55,400
Speaker 4: find out his dad was already proud. Then he can

1049
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 4: let it go and I think we would all find out, right,

1050
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 4: Like that's the thing about conversations when you you meet

1051
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 4: as peers, you get to just say, no, I'm proud

1052
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 4: of you as a person, like I love you as

1053
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 4: a person. If we're lucky enough to have parents and

1054
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 4: kids that are available for that relationship, it's so sweet,

1055
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 4: and you felt like when Matt's dad seems so charmed,

1056
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 4: you know, and he go, yeah, let's have lunch first.

1057
00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 4: But you could tell that he's a very good actor,

1058
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 4: their connections very yeah, I love this, tell that he

1059
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: took it in in the right way and that you go, oh,

1060
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 4: this is the beginning of a really sweet friendship for you.

1061
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: You could just see him at dinner that night talking

1062
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: to his wife like, I have the loveliest yeah with

1063
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 2: our son, dear.

1064
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so because if you think it means if.

1065
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: You think it means something to you the child, imagine

1066
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: what it means to the older person, the parent. You know,

1067
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: they're older, they're in their middle age, they're getting older.

1068
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:48,960
Speaker 3: It means I know, yes, yes, I know. So I

1069
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: guess next episode we should imagine that this Michael and

1070
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 3: Kimberly thing is only you know, going to keep escalating, right,

1071
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I it was so right in front. I

1072
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 3: can only guess that we're going to see so much

1073
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 3: more of it in the next episode.

1074
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking that Ronda took care of ray Don

1075
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 2: Cheng's character Carrie because Camber permission to fire him. She's like,

1076
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 2: you got to fire this woman who's trying to get

1077
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: get you and he's like, I love when you're jealous.

1078
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 2: She's like, this isn't funny. You got to fire her.

1079
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,720
Speaker 2: And then he says, we'll.

1080
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: Let you do that, baby, and she's like.

1081
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I will, And so you know, she went back

1082
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 2: and I don't I don't know if we see her again,

1083
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 2: but she took care of that, and I'm curious to

1084
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: see what happens with that. With Carrie gone, and I'm

1085
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: sure all the florals are going to leave too, because

1086
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: remember there was that scene with Carrie coming in and talking.

1087
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 1: About all the there's so many flowers in this episode,

1088
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: like flowers every Yeah.

1089
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: I mean I just had this vision of Terrence with

1090
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:52,800
Speaker 2: all these.

1091
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 3: Flowers, which he love, which is so annoying, Like, oh

1092
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 3: my god, stop. All right, We're we're getting so invested

1093
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 3: in all of our characters.

1094
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: I love it. Well spring for us, we just had spring.

1095
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: So it's not it's apropos that we had a springtime

1096
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 2: with flowers abound in an episode exactly.

1097
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 1: It's absolutely perfect.

1098
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 3: Well, we can probably expect a complete tonal departure for

1099
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: the next episode. Probably I can't wait.

1100
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: So I can't wait, either of you. Guys.

1101
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: Always great to see you always.

1102
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,279
Speaker 4: Seven is next?

1103
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?

1104
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,640
Speaker 3: In one season, twenty seven episodes and it's not even

1105
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: the end.

1106
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: We're not even done, so all right, Even that.

1107
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 3: Episode was called endgame, This is not the end, people,

1108
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: There will be more.

1109
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: And it may have been like it would be interesting

1110
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:40,879
Speaker 1: to see.

1111
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 4: We should pay attention as we go forward, like how

1112
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 4: many of these were just in case it was the end?

1113
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 1: And then her, I'm sure we're supposed to be canceled

1114
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 1: by now.

1115
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 3: Right, she has a theory every episode is going to have.

1116
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,360
Speaker 1: I'm sure this was the end. No, my dear, you

1117
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: have a few more comings.

1118
00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,120
Speaker 3: Well, this one says it was end game, but this

1119
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 3: is not the end. We will be back for more

1120
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 3: still the place, including our next Melrose minute. And thanks

1121
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 3: as always for tuning in. Don't forget to subscribe and download.

1122
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: Please subscribe.

1123
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:10,839
Speaker 3: We'll see you next time.

1124
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 4: Everybody, see you next time.

1125
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 3: Bye,