1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: This is intergalactic John. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 2: This is Alien Sam. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: On the International Okay Storytime podcast station. 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,640 Speaker 2: And we have some human stories coming up, not alien. 5 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,239 Speaker 1: But before we make a landing, stick around for this 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: two minute not alien ad break before we get to 7 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: these interstellar stories. 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: My girlfriend wants us to date her best friend. I'm 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 2: kind of considering it. 10 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: I mean as a sweet deal. 11 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 2: I've been dating my girlfriend Jenna for a little over 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: two years. Things in the relationship have always been great, 13 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: little hiccup here and there, but just the usual stupid 14 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: couple fights for dumb stuff that aren't that bad in 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: the band in the grand scheme of things. By the way, 16 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: this comes from username and if you want to submit 17 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 2: your own stories, go to the r slash Okay story Times. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 2: So I write it. So. Jenna has a friend Mia 19 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 2: that she's been bff's with since they came roommates freshman 20 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: year of college. They are practically inseparable and everyone thinks 21 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 2: they're sisters because they look very simil Aside from hair color, 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 2: they're really close, ridiculously close. Even apparently when they were 23 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: in college they did this whole expeerimentation thing with each other. 24 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh, like they like put like goo in a test 25 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: tube and then mixed it with like. 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 2: You know, did like a baking soda volcano. 27 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, the weird science. Weird science. 28 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: Anyway, Yeah, Jenna was very upfront with me about this 29 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: when we first started dating. They are both very attractive, 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: and the idea of them doing what she talked about 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: only turned me on to her more. 32 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh, they're electrical engineers. That's why I turned on like 33 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: a light switch. 34 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,400 Speaker 2: Well, Jenna and I have been sawid in the past 35 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,919 Speaker 2: two years. Mia hasn't been as lucky. She's dated about 36 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 2: six guys since Jenna and I have been together, all 37 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 2: varying from generally good guys to dirt pickles. She was 38 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: one of those girls who just couldn't stay single. Since 39 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: I've known her. She take a few weeks at most 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 2: between relationships and then move on to the next one. 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 2: That was until the most recent breakup about three months ago. 42 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 2: Since then, she has been by herself, trying to figure 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: things out on her own. That's good what we like, 44 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, take time to understand who you want to 45 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 2: be with help from my girlfriend and a little bit 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 2: from me as well. Right before Thanksgiving break, we all 47 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 2: went out to a bar to relax. Put I see 48 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 2: you in the comments, if you see what's coming. 49 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they're probably just gonna talk about their electrical undertuties. Yeah, 50 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: anatomy studies. 51 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: Well. At the bar, I noticed that Mia was a 52 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: little more handsy with me than usual. Jenna didn't seem 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: to mind at all, though I didn't really think too 54 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: much of it, just that Mia was a bit more 55 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 2: wasted than either of us, so I ignored it, not 56 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: wanting to dampen the mood. I'm sure he didn't want 57 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 2: to damp in that mood. We eventually left and went 58 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: back to MEA's apartment because it was when within walking 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 2: distance of the bar. 60 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: It sounds like someone's mood's already a little damp. 61 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 2: He got there. We stayed up a bit longer and 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 2: the booze lowered everyone's inhibitions, and the topic of spicy 63 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 2: sleep came up. This is when Mia and Jenna started 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: to talk about their early college experiments in front of me. 65 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: And that was just totally random, lol, random, totally lolxd 66 00:03:20,320 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: random and inspire something. 67 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 2: While Jenna had told me things had happened, it was 68 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 2: very matter of fact and straight at the point, no details. 69 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 2: This is the first time I got the whole story, 70 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 2: and holy crap, was I turned on. 71 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: Op's building circuitry like like a madman. 72 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: It was. I mean, hey, that's what they're talking about, 73 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: the science experiments. You know, little little circuit boards. Yeah, 74 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: oh yeah, oh yeah, oh put those circuits in parallel 75 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: or in series. 76 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Right ac DC, That's all me. 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: I want. I want that capacitor right there. You mean 78 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 2: they got diode transistor. I'm like, I'm pulling all of 79 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: my electrical engineering knowledge, which is not much. This is 80 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: the deer Penthouse. So I won't go into details of 81 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 2: what they said. And no, the three of us did 82 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 2: not get into anything that night. However, when Jen and 83 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: I went to bed, he brought up the idea of 84 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 2: bringing Mia into the bedroom in the near future, seeing 85 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:26,160 Speaker 2: as my pants were still tight from earlier. My goodness, OPI, 86 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: you are one little horn dog. 87 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Tight pants because of all the electricity. 88 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: All the food he ate beforehand. Yeah. Yeah. 89 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: Also, the something you don't know about electricians is their 90 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: pants tighten like a canarian a coal mine. So there's 91 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: too much electricity going on their pants cinch up and 92 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: like like you know the canary in the coal mine 93 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: that stops chirping when there's too much gas and it's dangerous. 94 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: Of course, of course, of course, of course I. 95 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: Agreed enthusiastically about bringing Jenna into the bedroom we have. 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: I actually went to sleep over the next week. Jenna 97 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 2: began bringing up hints about me, how pretty I think 98 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: she is, if things would be weird, etcetera, just gauging 99 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 2: my interest lamp. While I was still very interested. With 100 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,359 Speaker 2: the booze out of my system and blood back in 101 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 2: my brain, I was a bit more hesitant to pursue 102 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: the potential minage in fear of ruining what Jenna and 103 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: I have, or even what Mia and Jenna have. Yeah, 104 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: when I voiced these concerns, she dropped the bomb gel 105 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 2: on me. She had been talking with Mia lately about 106 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 2: all of us dating. 107 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: See now all of you dating pause, right, very different 108 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: than all of you in the same room at the 109 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: same time. 110 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 2: That is one night, you know, maybe even you know, 111 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: a couple hours if you're if you're up for that 112 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 2: kind of thing. And uh, that's that's much different than 113 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 2: getting adding a third a polycule is different than a 114 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: than a three night stand. 115 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is like having a party versus starting a business. Yes, 116 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: one is just sort of an event. The other is 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,559 Speaker 1: like a lifestyle, and I don't think Op is ready 118 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: for that. Also, like I feel like it needs to. 119 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: It seems like she's been so she's been pitching, like 120 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,839 Speaker 1: me and Jenna have been talking about dating. I feel 121 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 1: like Ope should have been talked about with that, like 122 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: that information sooner. I feel like that that should have 123 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: been a conversation between Op and his girlfriend instead of 124 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: a conversation between these I just assuming, like he's a guy, 125 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,040 Speaker 1: he'll be down, yeah, which is like not true. 126 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:35,359 Speaker 2: That's not true. That's not true. 127 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 1: I would not I would not be down for that. 128 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 129 00:06:38,520 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: I feel like that. I think I'm like maybe like 130 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 2: guys would be down with it in theory, but like 131 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: confronted with the reality of that situation. I think as 132 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 2: a meme, as. 133 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: A guys are down for use, but like when it's 134 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: real life, it's like that's a lot of work, Okay. Yeah, 135 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: first of all, yikes, Yeah, oh wow, I've got so 136 00:06:57,760 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: much work to do. 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Sony flowers to get. 138 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: That's for me, Like it's just not something i'd probably 139 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: ever do because there's just too many potential avenues of pain. 140 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Wildberry in the chat says how to 141 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 2: ruin your relationship one oh one, And I think while 142 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: this won't always ruin a relationship, I do think it 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: complicates a relationship and it should be a trodden with 144 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 2: extra care because this this kind of this kind of thing, 145 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: it's kind of it's changed in the dynamic of your 146 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 2: whole relationship, right, Like this is houses can be stressful 147 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 2: in a relationship. Adding a third person, that's like, that's 148 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 2: a whole new thing. 149 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: Well the other it's like it feels like y'all two 150 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: were talking about dating each other and then it was like, yeah, 151 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: my husband will also join in. Yeah, that's the vibe exactly. 152 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: So it's like he feels you really want to be right, 153 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: It's like, who do you really want? 154 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, like we got more to this story. Who said 155 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 2: I don't want to disappoint two women at the same time. 156 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: That croll up, scroll up, scroll up, Shamus shamous James says, 157 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to disappoint too with it at this 158 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: day of day. That's just Pete Davidson secretly in our comments. 159 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: But funny, that was funny. 160 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: I was obviously confused. My first reaction was, you're joking right, 161 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 2: and then are you testing me? But but she but 162 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: sured me. 163 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: But she ensured she Now you got to say, but 164 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: she ass sured me, you gotta really hit it. 165 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 2: But she assured me that she wasn't. She was a 166 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: very upfront person, has never done anything like that before, 167 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 2: So I believed her. I then asked her if our 168 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 2: relationship wasn't enough for her, if this meant she wanted 169 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 2: to date other people, and she again very vehemently denied 170 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: those concerns of mine. She said it would strictly be me, 171 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 2: her and Mia. For reasoning was Jenna absolutely loves and 172 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 2: adores Mia. Jenna is spicy relatedly attracted to both me 173 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 2: and Mia. Mia is spicy relatedly attracted to both me 174 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 2: and Jenna. In Jenna's mind, it's having your cake and 175 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: eating it too. 176 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: Oh so, our new word for that is spiceuality visuality. 177 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: Oh yes, spicuality attracted. 178 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 2: To Okay, I will use that from now on. Yeah. 179 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 2: She did not force these wishes on me. She just 180 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: brought up the possibility that it could happen. I asked 181 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: where all this came from, And here's what I got 182 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: out of her. Mia had brought up the idea of 183 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: a three way to Jenna, and Jenna thought it would 184 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 2: be fun. That's why Mia was extra flirty with me. 185 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 2: That one night, when Jenna got back to Me's apartment, 186 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 2: she started thinking about how she truly has feelings for 187 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 2: both the people in the room, and that she couldn't 188 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: differentiate between the love he has for both of us. 189 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: It wasn't a very recent feeling either. He'd been battling 190 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 2: it for a while, and that night she talked about 191 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 2: those things that she did with Mia and it brought 192 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: all the feelings back that she was unsure of. As 193 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 2: it so happened, Mia had been harboring those same feelings 194 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: and had the same type of epiphany and sought out 195 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 2: Jenna to talk to her. At some point this week, 196 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 2: Mia told Jenna her feelings about both of us, and 197 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: Jenna admitted she felt the same way about her. He 198 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: told Mia he would speak to me about it. Jenna 199 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 2: did not pressure me with the decision, and there was 200 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: no behind any of her words. If anything, she was 201 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: very gentle to make sure I wasn't upset. I was 202 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: concerned that the three of us dating would just be 203 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 2: stepping stone to slowly phase me out of the relationship. 204 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: Without breaking up with me. I told her, if that 205 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: were the case, then she should just end things now. 206 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: She swore up and down that this was not the case, 207 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:20,959 Speaker 2: and even cried a little. She said that she loves 208 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 2: me and doesn't want to lose me, but also loves me. 209 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: I feel like a valid concern, you know, like I 210 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: feel like a lot of people can start polycules because 211 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 2: they have feelings for another person but don't necessarily want 212 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: to disappoint the person that they're with. I don't think 213 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: that's maybe a lot of people is an overstatement, but 214 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: we've read stories about that before. 215 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: I can't speak to any certainty of like the mind 216 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: state of people who are actively like pop. 217 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 2: Yes, I really I could never or the poly people 218 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: in the chat would love to hear from you. Does 219 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 2: this feel kosher? 220 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: Well, my question to Jenna, if I'm ope, my question 221 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: would be, are do you love Mia or do you 222 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: lust Mia? 223 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 2: I think she loves Mia, because I think she also 224 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 2: I think she loves Mia. It sounds like what she 225 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 2: was saying is like I was looking obviously, I was like, 226 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: you know, Spice sculily attracted to Mia. But then I 227 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 2: realized that the two people in the room I actually 228 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 2: feel the same love for both of them, and so 229 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: it is love. It's not just lust. 230 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,240 Speaker 1: Dang. So if I'm her part, I'm ope she's like 231 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: I'm in love with Mia, but I'm like, I'm not 232 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: in love with Mia. Though now I'm in a weird spot. 233 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: I have to either be okay with the woman I 234 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: love also being in a like in love with someone 235 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: else Jenna. 236 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 2: Jenna is like the meat in the middle, and she 237 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 2: now has two relationships. I feel like what would happen 238 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 2: is Mia and Opee would need to build their own 239 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: love sandwich ships if it would if it would work. 240 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 3: A sandwich like, yeah, Opie's a piece of bread, Mia 241 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 3: is the meat and. 242 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: Jenna or no, Jenna's meet me as the other piece 243 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:02,960 Speaker 2: of bread, other sandwich. 244 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: I think I like sandwiches. I think my instinct here 245 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: is that if this happens fundamentally, like the relationship is done, 246 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: is going to break. I think because that well, Pe 247 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: doesn't have that connection to me. If it was like 248 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: a hey, like, let's do this thing casually, It's like 249 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: maybe that could work. It'll probably still get messy, but 250 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: maybe it'll work. But if it's like I'm in love 251 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: with this other person and we should all be in 252 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: love together. I don't think you can just force that. Yeah, 253 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: you can't white knuckle like just becoming in love with 254 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:40,559 Speaker 1: someone because it's it's what would make sense in a situation. 255 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: And I want to shout out Haven who said, as 256 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 2: someone who's been polyamorous for six years, I think choosing 257 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: to be Poullie because you found someone you like is 258 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 2: the wrong reason. I think it should be because you 259 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 2: want to be Pollie in general. And I think that 260 00:12:56,320 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 2: is the thing is like, I think starting a relationship 261 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: as a poly relationship is easier than converting a monogamous 262 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 2: relationship to a poly one. And Catarine says, who brought 263 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: up the phasing out idea, that's what confused me. OPI 264 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 2: is worried about being phased out, which is true. 265 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: Because the comment above that be Hope arts is like, 266 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: why is the girlfriend having these conversations with me before 267 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: having them with OP? You talk to your partner about 268 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: this before the potential new partner, It's like, yeah. 269 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: I think it just came I think it just came up. 270 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: Well, it's no, it's it really does feel like it 271 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: was like a you know, well, we'll kind of already 272 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: hammer it out on our end, so once we bring 273 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: it to him, it'll just be like a, well, we 274 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 1: already did this thing. We've already decided that we should 275 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 1: do this, so you want to do it. 276 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: Too, right, yeah? I which, Yeah, I'm curious what everyone 277 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: thinks in the comments, but I'm going to keep going 278 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: and see if we can get some more context. 279 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot of meat. There's a lot of meat on. 280 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 2: I want to know if you think does this poly 281 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 2: q will have a happy end? 282 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: Yes? And no? 283 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: Do you think Opie will develop feeling for me or not? 284 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: Yes or no? 285 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: I feel like we shouldn't have done this is what 286 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna develop. 287 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 2: We'll put up a poll and you let us know 288 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: we got We're barely like a fifth through this story, 289 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: so we got a lot, a lot of more juice 290 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 2: to squeeze. So I said that it kind of sounds 291 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 2: like she wants Mia and I to only date her, 292 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: but she said that Mia wants to date both of us. 293 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 2: So again, it wouldn't just be a sandwich. It would 294 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 2: be a little little love triangle. Everyone everyone's connected to 295 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: each other. Mia has really grown fond of me over 296 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: these two years, and allegedly really wants someone to treat 297 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 2: her the way I treat Jenna, but that takes time. 298 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 2: Man's gonna have a full overtime job taking care of 299 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: both these women like he takes care of Jenna. 300 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,040 Speaker 1: If you're gonna have a real partner and a fake partner, 301 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: you can't. What do you like? What do you like? 302 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Listen to yourself, bro, listen to yourself. 303 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: Bro, there's a tall order. Jelly Buss says, you're. 304 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: Like, she wants like a loving partner, so I'll role 305 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: play is one. 306 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: The Tomlitz says Polly person here. My boyfriend is also Polly. 307 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: He's in two relationships. I'm not involved with his other 308 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: girlfriend Dave as a friend, but I was probably before 309 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 2: I met him. He was not what was accepting. I 310 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: guess that's an example of someone who uh, someone who 311 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: didn't heep Polly and converted. So maybe it's working out. 312 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: I said I needed time to think about it, and 313 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 2: she's given me my space. But I'm pretty sure she 314 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: wants to answer soon. Here's the kicker. I've been researching 315 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 2: engagement rings for about a month now. 316 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: Oh all right, this is not gonna work. Oh not 317 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: gonna work. This ain't working. You are so on the 318 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: opposite side of the ideological field. 319 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: I was ready to make Jenna my wife, and then 320 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 2: this was thrown at me. Jenna, of course, is unaware, 321 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 2: and I haven't purchased a ring yet, but I planned. 322 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: I'm buying one student proposing around New Year's so here 323 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 2: I am. I don't have any issues with me uh heck. 324 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 2: I love her myself, just not the same way that 325 00:15:57,360 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 2: Jenna does. Of course I find her attractive. They both are, 326 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 2: and I genuinely enjoy hanging out with her when Jenna 327 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: isn't around. He's grown into one of my best friends. 328 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 2: But I've seen how she is in relationships and how 329 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 2: all of hers have progressed. Maybe things have changed in 330 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: the three month window and she's finally found peace within herself. 331 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: I really don't know. I just have no idea how 332 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: polly relationships work, and I have no idea what to do. 333 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 2: I was ready to make Jenna my wife, but she 334 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 2: wants us all to be together as one big, happy family. 335 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 2: I don't have a specific question because I don't know 336 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 2: what the heck I'm going to do, because I'm so 337 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 2: dank confused right now. On the one hand, and I'm 338 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: sorry if this sounds tactless and shallow. Two very attractive 339 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: women are into me and both want to have spicy 340 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: sleep with me at the same time, and that is 341 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: just fantastic. On the other hand, I'm happy with where 342 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 2: Jenna and I are and was slash am ready to 343 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 2: marry her. What is my next step? How do I 344 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:56,440 Speaker 2: move forward with this? There is an edit? There are 345 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 2: many dick juicy dates, but Dakota chat, what do you 346 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 2: think is the move forward? And also looking at the 347 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 2: votes right now, it looks like past me that twenty 348 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: three percent of people are saying it could have a 349 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: happy ending, seventy seven percent are not. OPI is definitely 350 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 2: not not on the on the same page as everyone else. 351 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 2: H yeah Yeahgaira Areas says this is not going to 352 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 2: work at all, wild Berryer, They're on very different pages. 353 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: This is the thing. Do we remember the backstory we 354 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: got on Mia at the beginning? Yeah, she she is 355 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,239 Speaker 1: chronically in a relationship, chronically not single, and all's are 356 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,320 Speaker 1: OPI goes, I've seen how she is in relationships and 357 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: how all of hers have progressed, So you know, you know, 358 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: without a shred of doubt, how that's going to play out. 359 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: You think that her solution is that she's just not 360 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,239 Speaker 1: had enough on her plate in the relationship she's been in. 361 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, very much doubt that. Yeah. I mean, if she's 362 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: bad at relationships with one people, I mean, battling and 363 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: working with the desires of two people is just so 364 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 2: is so difficult. And maybe it would be different if 365 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: she had a long history of very happy, beautiful relationships, 366 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 2: but that is just not the case. 367 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: Well fundamentally, OPI is like, you're just nowhere near where 368 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: they are. I think you're like I was ready to, like, 369 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: you know, do the thing where we get married and 370 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: then it's just me and you forever. I was ready 371 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: for that, And now you didn't even bring this to me, 372 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: You like set this up without me. Also, now I'm 373 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,400 Speaker 1: either have to be the good guy or the bad guy. 374 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 2: Miss Boozy says Polly relationships require constant conversation to ensure 375 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 2: everyone is on the same page. I would probably be 376 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 2: into Polly, but it sounds like so much work. I 377 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 2: can barely handle one partner. Yeah, it is, it is. 378 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 2: I feel like poly relationships need more communication than just 379 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 2: monogamous relationships. OPI and friend haven't had any romantic interactions 380 00:18:57,480 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 2: as far as you know, how could she know she 381 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:01,200 Speaker 2: wants to be in a relationship with them exactly? That's 382 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 2: what I. 383 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,959 Speaker 1: Don't just about to say. It doesn't have any clarity. 384 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 2: I think if you were, I think, honestly, if I was, 385 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: if if we were, if you were trying to have 386 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 2: the best chance of this working out, you should just, 387 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 2: like I feel like they should all just hook up 388 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 2: a couple of times and then see how they feel 389 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: and just like naturally progress the relationship a step forward 390 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: us And I don't know if like, if you're trying 391 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: to make a little polycule. 392 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: If you're going from zero one hundred, I just I 393 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: don't know. It sounds like a terrible idea. I would say, 394 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: don't do this. But so we got an edit. Yeah, 395 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: so we had a long. 396 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,880 Speaker 2: Talk tonight with Jenna, then Mia and Janet. Tonight. When 397 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: I get a chance, I'll write an update, but it 398 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 2: won't be short. Oh, here we go. Here is the update. 399 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: Here it is folks. 400 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: Hey, it's Sam, your og host. 401 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 1: Here. 402 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,680 Speaker 2: We're going to get back to the stories. But here's 403 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 2: three minutes. Bads from our sponsors. Thanks for all the 404 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: help from the last thread with special shout out to 405 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:54,680 Speaker 2: the folks over at all our slash polyamory. We got 406 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 2: we got a subreddit for that, folks. Those guys are 407 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: seriously awesome and ridiculously helpful, understanding and encouraging. So I 408 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: called Jenna and told her I wanted to talk with 409 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 2: her one on one and then with both her and 410 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 2: Mia later, and she agreed. She came to my apartment 411 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 2: and I got right into it. I had a list 412 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 2: of things I wanted to say. It was very long, 413 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: a couple of pages. I ran down my list of 414 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 2: questions and she gave me answers. Most of them were 415 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: for clarification, the others were for expectations. She isn't the 416 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: best with her words, so I found myself helping her 417 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: better articulate what her feelings were and the points that 418 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: she was trying to get across. And here are some 419 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 2: the highlight. I did not tell her I'd been looking 420 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: at rings. A person mentioned that that might almost be 421 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 2: a manipulative way to get my point across, and that wasn'tnecessary. 422 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: She does not know about it, and I don't think 423 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 2: I will tell her about that until much much later. 424 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:47,200 Speaker 2: If ever, I did not ask about what would happen 425 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 2: if I said I didn't want to give this whole 426 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 2: thing a shot, because I've reached the conclusion that I do, 427 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: or if he wants to give it a shot. I 428 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: don't need to know what could have happened. I just 429 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 2: need to know what will happen and what to expect. 430 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 2: Sorry to disappoint those who are interested. 431 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 1: I like how he said that, like there's like a guarantee. 432 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: I just need to know what exactly is going to happen. Like, dude, 433 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 1: you don't know, like it's either going to be like 434 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 1: I guess you spend the rest of your life with 435 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: these two people. 436 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 2: Well we would. I don't think Jenna's asking to marry 437 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: the polycule. She's just asking to date. So it's not 438 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 2: a rest of the life thing. Could well, it could 439 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 2: it could be, could be could be a triples how 440 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: those things start. But I I think I think it's 441 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: it's a little less uh less intense. I get asked 442 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: if I was not enough for her. It was a 443 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 2: basic insecurity question that I needed to answer for. We 444 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: reached the conclusion that there was no less love for 445 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 2: me or our relationship. She just has a ton of 446 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 2: love to give out and point blank. I asked her 447 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,959 Speaker 2: had they had any at any point fooled around behind 448 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: my back? Was there any cheating? Her response was no. 449 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: I believe her awful liar, and I would have been 450 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,600 Speaker 2: able to tell the only time they did stuff was 451 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: during wasted makeout sessions in front of me while at parties. 452 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: I was okay with that. 453 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: I can I give that to them. 454 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 2: I told her how confused I was about the entire thing. 455 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 2: She understood she was too. I asked her what her 456 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: expectations were for this entire thing. She said, ultimately, he 457 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: wants everyone to be happy with each other and for 458 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 2: us all to date one another. I told her it 459 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 2: was not a reasonable expectation at first because of the 460 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 2: dynamic of me and my friendship at this point in 461 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 2: a relationship, beause they don't really like they just know 462 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: each other as like friends. 463 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,080 Speaker 1: They don't love each other like that. Yeah, yeah, they 464 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: love each other like uh, I told you, platonic. 465 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: Love, yeah, brotherly potoga Yeah yeah. 466 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't think of any examples that wouldn't sound wrong, though. 467 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: I told her about the V dynamic, and she said 468 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 2: it sounded like a good starting point. I guess the 469 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 2: v dynamic. Is Jenna having a relationship with Op and 470 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: Mia but that not did Mia and Op. 471 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: If you need to build graphs for this, if you 472 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: need to make charts and visual aids for this, I'd 473 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: be a little more complicated than what you're looking for. 474 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 2: Buddy, Gladie toastays, I feel like they should go on 475 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: individual dates with the third to see if there's even 476 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 2: feels there. I think the girlfriend is romanticizing the old hookup. 477 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: I just think this is crazy that there was that 478 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 1: comment that's like, don't tell her you were buying the 479 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: ring because that's manipulative. It's like, why, I don't think 480 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: you need to tell her that you're buying the ring, 481 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: but you are, like genuinely, like in a place where 482 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: you were ready to settle and commit to one person, 483 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 1: and she's telling you she wants the exact opposite of that, 484 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: so you should let her know. Hey, I'm very far 485 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: away from where you're at. I was, I am nowhere 486 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: there close to where you're at. 487 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 2: Naturally, I feel like he kind of got quickly over 488 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: he said he is. 489 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how really? I don't know. 490 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,160 Speaker 2: I asked her how she would feel if I were 491 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: on a date with Mia while she was not around, 492 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 2: so you applied I would be turned on electricians. Then 493 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: we went off on a tangent about spicy sleep. I 494 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 2: got a boner and I found out that my girlfriend 495 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 2: has a thing for that stuff, which I'm totally okay with. 496 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: But I told her that being horny about it is 497 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: all well and good. I just needed her to be 498 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 2: happy for us if Mia and my relationship blossom. You 499 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 2: looked at me like a goofball and said, with a smile, 500 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: of course, I'd be thrilled if that were to happen. 501 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 2: There's some other stuff that we talked about that I 502 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 2: can't think of off the top of my head. And if 503 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 2: you want to know, and I asked, I'll tell you. 504 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 2: After we got all that crap out in the open, 505 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 2: we called me over I had a group session about everything. 506 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 2: So now we're getting to the group it seems like 507 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:38,399 Speaker 2: OP is on board. 508 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not buying it. I feel like 509 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: Ope's convinced themselves to be on board. 510 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: I think it's cool and hot and everything that they're all, 511 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 2: you know, all talking about good old romps in the sack, 512 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 2: But it feels like the conversation is like very centered 513 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 2: around like spicy sleep, yes, and not as much about 514 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: you know, a loving relationship, dating dynamic. And I'm like, like, 515 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 2: is the whole is it just? Is it lust? And 516 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,520 Speaker 2: then now I'm asked and now I'm wondering, like is 517 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,240 Speaker 2: it lester love? 518 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,439 Speaker 1: That was my whole question? Is it feels very like, 519 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: oh my god, I remember when we did that crazy thing. 520 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, that was so crazy. 521 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,679 Speaker 2: It's like I think, maybe, yeah, yeah, are you sure? 522 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 1: Are you really is it love? 523 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 2: But miss Jaber said, at least they're communicating that is true. 524 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: We love that, we love that. When Mia came over, 525 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: she was a bit more shy than normal because I 526 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: think she was a little shamed and embarrassed about the 527 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 2: possibility of coming between me and Jenna. 528 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: Well, isn't that exactly what you guys want? 529 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 2: I reassured her that we were okay and we're ready 530 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 2: to move forward. She started beaming. I went over a 531 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: lot of the same stuff that I did with Jenna, 532 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 2: so I won't repeat it, but we all did some 533 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: talk about some aspects of everything we define the boundaries 534 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: of if anyone else was allowed in our little group, 535 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: Jenna said that she only felt the way she does 536 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: about me and Mia, and I said I wasn't interested 537 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: in anyone else, and said she wasn't interested in anyone else. 538 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 2: Do the parameters have been set and the outside interference 539 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 2: was defined as cheating? This is what the polycule is. 540 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 2: I'm still worried about MIA's past relationship history affecting this relationship, 541 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: but it seems like everything's kind of going okay. 542 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: This is not gonna go well. 543 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 2: Cassona says, I think the physical attraction is marring the 544 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 2: romance aspect of the relationship. I do agree, but it's 545 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 2: me not. He says it's a good start. I think 546 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 2: it is. 547 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: I think it is a good start. Here There's still more. 548 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: There's still more, There's a lot more. It is my 549 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:35,119 Speaker 1: quick breakdown. Mia doesn't know what she wants. She just 550 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: know what she doesn't want, which is being single. Op 551 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: is trying to white knuckle and logic their way into 552 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: being cool with the like multiple the poly situation, yep, 553 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: which is you can't do that. And honestly, all of 554 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: this started from an actual lie or at least deception 555 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: because the partner, Jenna, set all of this up alone, 556 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: which you can do. 557 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 2: I so I would give a maybe maybe I'm a 558 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 2: little bit on the other side. I think I would 559 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: give a little more grace just because it seemed like 560 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: it was a sudden realization of like feelings. But I 561 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: do feel like Op and Jenna should have had the 562 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: like Jenna should have said, hey, I realize I have 563 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 2: feelings for me. Yea, like when I talk to you 564 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 2: about it, and I think then should have gone to me. 565 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: And so, Yeah, I do agree that it is a 566 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: little bit of a It does feel like it hurts 567 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 2: a little bit the integrity of the main relationship. 568 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, it forces Op into a corner. 569 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, let me know if you you agree, I would say, 570 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 2: I would say it's it started a little bit rough. Yeah, 571 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 2: but it does feel like they're communicating well now. 572 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, but the energy is so different when between life 573 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,880 Speaker 1: starts like between like hey, here's this thing I'm feeling now, 574 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: like how what do you think about it? And versus 575 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: like hey, here's this thing we've got going on. Are 576 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: you gonna let it happen? Or are you gonna shoot 577 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: it down? Now? Now you're in a position where it's like, well, 578 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: I either have to be yeah, you know, creating. I 579 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,399 Speaker 1: have to either rain on everyone's parade or I can, like, 580 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: you know, be the cool cool guy. 581 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: I wish they were co creating this new Facebook relationship, 582 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,880 Speaker 2: and it feels like she's present, presenting and already thought 583 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: out of option. We decided that spicy sleep should be 584 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 2: off limits for the time being, and they seemed both 585 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: surprised and bummed out about that, but understood when I 586 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 2: explained that we were basically starting a new relationship. It 587 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: didn't matter how long we all knew each other. This 588 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 2: is the start of something new, and spicy sleep with 589 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,959 Speaker 2: your partner isn't something you dive into right away until 590 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 2: all parties are one hundred percent comfortable with it. This 591 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 2: included threesomes for the time being. I am weader, blocking 592 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 2: myself and confusing my bon but it's the right thing 593 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: to do. I told them about the research I had 594 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 2: done in the books that I had found which were 595 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: suggested to be by redditors. What are these books? What 596 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: are these books? How reading them? What are the. 597 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: Book from doctor Boner How to unconfuse your Boner? 598 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 2: Random thing here? Christmas gifts will be a joint effort 599 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 2: by two people for the other one that's around. 600 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: They're planning Christmas now, shut up, dude, this is way 601 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: too much. I kind of like this. You can't Christmas. 602 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 2: I think it's cute. 603 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: Stop it. 604 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: Casey Leaf says, God too, polycules. This will save money 605 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 2: slash allow for better gifts, so instead of getting two presents, 606 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: we all get one. 607 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: Dumb this is crazy. This is crazy. 608 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: I think it's cute. 609 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: This is crazy. 610 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 2: We spoke about how honesty is the number one priority 611 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: in a relationship if it is going to work, honesty 612 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: with ourselves, each other, jealousy, our emotions, and feelings. Honesty 613 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: is the only way or war. Jenna is on a 614 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 2: time share with us at the moment, but not really. 615 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,480 Speaker 2: We aren't defining when either of us gets her throughout 616 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 2: the year. She's not a beach house, but we will 617 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: be conscious of what is going on on as to 618 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 2: not let anyone feel left out. Okay, so they're like 619 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: basically ensuring that everyone gets time with each other so 620 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: no one feels out left out because like when you're 621 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: like when you're when you're managing relationships with multiple people 622 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: like you, you gotta you gotta make sure everyone has 623 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 2: a little time. Sat as a Sam is in his 624 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: love face, can't see all the red flags This is just. 625 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: Not going to work. It's just not gonna work. It's 626 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: impossible because it didn't start with that. 627 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 2: You look, Oh, dude, I guess. But the best Polly 628 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: book out there is called The Ethical Slut. I at 629 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: the I was dating this girl who was reading that 630 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 2: and was telling me about it because she was trying 631 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 2: to be a therapist for Polly relationships. 632 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: And I have nothing funny to say about it. I 633 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 1: have nothing funny. I have nothing that could maybe be 634 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: an off colored remark to say about that. I've only 635 00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: got squeaky clean. The bald man is in my head 636 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 1: cleaning the floors. That's how clean it is up there. 637 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 2: Right now, it seems like all three of us are 638 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 2: on the same page, and that the idea of the 639 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: other person with the other person turns them on and 640 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 2: does not make them jealous. Great, I suppose that's a 641 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 2: good thing. Again, this isn't everything. Just the tip of 642 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 2: the iceberg. I probably talk with Jenna than Jenna and 643 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 2: Mia for like eight hours, and I'm spent. While the 644 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 2: Jename and Jenemia aspects of the relationships are solid, the 645 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 2: me and me aspect needs to be established from the beginning. 646 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: I brought up how I only saw her as my 647 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: girlfriend's friend, but find her attractive. Jenna suggested me and 648 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: I go on a date with each other. I was 649 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 2: hesitant to jump in so quickly, but they both encourage 650 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 2: me to do so. And now I have a date 651 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 2: with my girlfriend's girlfriend tomorrow night, and I'm incredibly nervous. 652 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: I really want it to work because it would make 653 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: our lives that much easier. We will have plenty to 654 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: talk about. So now, excuse me, what did you just say? 655 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: My girlfriend's girlfriend, Lisa Prett says, let him cook. I 656 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: really is that they're talking. I really hope it works 657 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: out for dummies. O P thinks this is gonna make 658 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 2: their lives easier. Slyly Toe says, sometimes the best throattles 659 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: just happen. Three people just click. Everyone is comfortable. 660 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: Right. That doesn't sound like this is what's happening. They're 661 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: having to plan Christmas, and they're planning Christmas ahead of 662 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: time so that no one gets jealous. Like they're the 663 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: chimpanzees in the cage seeing like one chimp get more 664 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: cake than the other. What are we talking about? I 665 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: just love that crazy Yeah, man, he's got them all. 666 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: Whoa Pauli's cure. 667 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: One's just going to be the giving tree. 668 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: This is for you to count it. I think this 669 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: is yours. 670 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, you gotta get more comfortable with it. You 671 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: got to relax. You're so tense. Come over here, you 672 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: get sausages. Yeah, Ka will get one shoulder, I'll get 673 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: the other. No, you can be our little bread in 674 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: the middle, our little little Salabbie. 675 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't have to. I'll have to really stew 676 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: on that. Like how it's me nan, He says. My 677 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: brain's breaking on the wrong thing because I keep bringing 678 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: up planning Christmas. 679 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: Christmas. 680 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: It just feels like a dude, get the gift for 681 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: the person that you think they would like. Why are 682 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: we planning? 683 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 2: So now I have a date Monday evening with the 684 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: girl who I never thought i'd date, and it's for 685 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: reasons I never thought were possible. And my fantay football 686 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: teams are letting me down right now. Like I said earlier, 687 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: if you have questions, I'll do my best to answer them. 688 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 2: We got comments and we have more updates. This is 689 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 2: we are not even halfway through. We are going to 690 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: see this relationship unfold right now. The only important question 691 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: Ohpee is what do you want? What is it? 692 00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: What do you want? 693 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 2: I think oh PE's want of this. I think he's down. 694 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:51,080 Speaker 1: I still don't believe it. 695 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 2: You just didn't know what's possible. It's like it it's 696 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 2: like you know you you don't even like like he is. 697 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 2: He has opened up to the idea that oh wow, 698 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: like like like he didn't even realize he didn't. Really, 699 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 2: it's kind of like breaking the formute mile lot. 700 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's he's logicing it. 701 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: Once someone broke the for minute mile, people are like 702 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 2: breaking it left and right because they knew it was possible. 703 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: You didn't even know it was possible. 704 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, but this isn't a four minute mile. That's like 705 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: a that's like a breaking the boundaries of like human 706 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: physical limits, like this is this is one just. 707 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 2: Agrees of what the relationships could be. 708 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: But look, my partners, like I'm I love me and 709 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,319 Speaker 1: we love each other and we're in love. We want 710 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: to love all of us want to be in love together. Yeah, 711 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: And you're like, that's just my homie. But you're like, 712 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:33,879 Speaker 1: I guess I. 713 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 2: Could because he didn't even Yeah. 714 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: I guess I could get there it's just you can't 715 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: logic it. You can't be like, hmmm. 716 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,320 Speaker 2: All right, I want I want an update on our poll. 717 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 2: Do you think this is going to have a happy ending? 718 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 2: Yes or no? Before we were at twenty two percent 719 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: saying happy ending, seventy seven percent or seventy eight percent 720 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: saying uh uh, it was not gonna have a happy ending. 721 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: Let us let's let's have a little vote and to 722 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: get into the comments and the update. So comments comment 723 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,480 Speaker 2: one one question is what if you don't feel it 724 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 2: with MEA? I mean, sure you're attracted her, but what 725 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 2: if after a couple of dates you're not interested with her? 726 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 2: How would Jenna take it? Would she still want to 727 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 2: be with you? But I suppose you can cross that 728 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 2: path when slash if you come to it, I'll keep 729 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 2: an eye out for updates. So not my tip situation 730 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 2: I'd run if it were suggested. This is the commenter 731 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 2: saying it, but I'm interested to see how it plays out. 732 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: And OPI responds, I think then it would just be 733 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 2: a v type relationship where we'd each date her individually. 734 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,719 Speaker 2: So basically Op wouldn't have a relationship with Mia, but 735 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,440 Speaker 2: Mia that Jenna would have a relationship with Mia and 736 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: Op okay, So it's like, if Op isn't feeling it, 737 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 2: look then he just has a relationship with Jenna. 738 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,800 Speaker 1: And I think, if that's what you're if you're cool 739 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: with that arrangement, you should just do that right away. 740 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,600 Speaker 2: Don't even and it looks like things haven't changed. People 741 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,040 Speaker 2: are still thinking. Twenty four percent are thinking the happy 742 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,480 Speaker 2: ending U seventy seven percent sad ending Let's see what happens. 743 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 2: So if you you don't feel it with me, and 744 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 2: this is a concert replying, she will just be dating 745 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: your girlfriend. So what do you get out of this 746 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: whole thing? Then? I mean, if you're not dating her, 747 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: does that mean no threesomes? If you end in a 748 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 2: V relationship, then you will basically have what you had 749 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 2: with your girlfriend, except you'll be seeing someone else as 750 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 2: well as you. In that case, your girlfriend will half 751 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 2: her cake and eat it too, and you'll have what 752 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: exactly you could end up the third wheel in your 753 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,879 Speaker 2: own relationship. Opie responds, I hope I didn't come off 754 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,280 Speaker 2: as pretentious my other posts. I reread what I wrote, 755 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 2: and I might come off as douchey. I know, I apologize, 756 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 2: but right now I just to put faith into me 757 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: and Jenna that they won't screw me figuratively out of 758 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: the relationship. Communication is key in any relationship, but even 759 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 2: more so in these it seems. I think it really 760 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,960 Speaker 2: just depends on your mindsetting these things. I'm going to 761 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,160 Speaker 2: try to be happy with Jenna and MIA's happiness, and 762 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 2: Mia is already happy with mine. In Jenna's there's a 763 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 2: lot of trust being thrown around right now, and I'm 764 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 2: sure to outsiders it's kind of like, what the f bro, 765 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 2: she borderline cheated on you, bro. But I don't have 766 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 2: that same outlook as everyone else. And there's another commenter. 767 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: The weird thing that's getting me is it feels like, oh, 768 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: he's talking about like, well, so I haven't drank orange 769 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: juice with pulp before, but people tell me it's a 770 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: nice alternative. It's like, this is a much bigger thing 771 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: than I think. 772 00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 2: You're making it for someone who is. I mean, I 773 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,760 Speaker 2: think what is happening is like, you're risking, You're risking 774 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,799 Speaker 2: the relationship. You are risking the relationship. But maybe if 775 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,759 Speaker 2: he didn't allow Jenna to see Mia, that would also 776 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: be a risk to the relationship, and so allowing the 777 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 2: relationship to change is like the at least the possibility 778 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 2: to change is what preserves the potential of it continuing continuing. 779 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 2: This was just a but a comment too. There's a 780 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,760 Speaker 2: problem here. It looks like she is spicy relatedly turned 781 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: on by all this more than emotionally enjoying it. That's 782 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 2: what we said earlier. That's what we got earlier. Lustre's 783 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: is love by that. I think this will fail hard. 784 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 2: It feels like it's more about spicy sleep than anything. 785 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: I agree. I agree, everyone's talking about how hot each other, 786 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: how hot it is to have this setup, and not 787 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 2: how lovely it's going to be. Although they did talk 788 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 2: about Christmas presents, which I feel like is more on 789 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 2: the romance side than it is on the icy sleep side. 790 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:18,880 Speaker 2: So I think there is some of it, But I 791 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 2: feel like there's a lot more talk about boners and 792 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 2: threesomes and there is about weddings and Christmas. 793 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,799 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, they have more history, so 794 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: maybe they are. Look I'm seeing some comments there that's 795 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 1: saying like I just disagree with anything that I wouldn't do. 796 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 1: It's like, no, I just don't think Ope really wants 797 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,759 Speaker 1: to date both of these women at the same time. Yeah, 798 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 1: I think op is trying to convince themselves that that 799 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: is a cool thing they'd like to do, when in reality, 800 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: it's it's something that they're like, I mean, oh whatever, 801 00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: I've never thought that that would be a thing, but 802 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,720 Speaker 1: I guess I'll give it a try. 803 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,879 Speaker 2: It's like, but I think that's how you I mean, 804 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: I think that's how you expand your world generally, right, 805 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 2: Like I think you know, I I didn't realize you 806 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 2: could travel the world like cheaply and affordably, but until 807 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 2: like an ex was like, well you can't do this 808 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 2: and you can explore. 809 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: But he was about to marry her. He was he 810 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: was planning a proposal. 811 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, if that. 812 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: Wasn't in there, I'd be like, maybe this is what 813 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 1: you want. 814 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 2: But it was like, but I I think I think 815 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 2: it's worth there. But I think that's just because what 816 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 2: that's the image of what he thought the only the 817 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: only image of what he thought a future relationship could 818 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 2: look like. 819 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 3: Like. 820 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,480 Speaker 2: To belabor another metaphor would be like, you know, like 821 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,400 Speaker 2: I studied engineering and thought I would be an engineer 822 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 2: and then realized that, like you could make silly videos 823 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 2: online and that's more fun and like that. I didn't 824 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: even realize that was a possibility for a life, which 825 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: is why I went to the engineering degree. My my my, 826 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 2: uh I guess the ring of my my corporate life 827 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 2: brain ring. Yeah, my little, my little, my little working ring. 828 00:39:59,560 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 1: Hmm. 829 00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:03,440 Speaker 2: Anyway, that's probably a bad metaphor. But you got an 830 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 2: update coming right up, Sam. Here, we're gonna get back 831 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 2: to the stories. But here's three of its bads from 832 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 2: our sponsors. The date happened, oh p and MEA's date. Okay, 833 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,120 Speaker 2: this is the third that they're introducing into the relationship. 834 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: So it's like we're gonna and we talked about the 835 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: coupons we got for Trader Joe's. 836 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: But before it's gonna be yeah, okay, I spoke with 837 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,800 Speaker 2: Jenna about any ground rule slash boundaries that needed to follow. 838 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,359 Speaker 2: It basically came down to no spicy sleep, the time 839 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 2: being something we already established a few days ago. I 840 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 2: made sure that Jenna was perfectly content with what was happening, 841 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 2: and I also shook off some last minute insecurities. She 842 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 2: kept reassuring me that she was fine with everything and 843 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,359 Speaker 2: that ultimately my happiness in my relationship with Mia would 844 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 2: make her so happy. So on to the date. I 845 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 2: was planning on using the date as a good way 846 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 2: to open up with some dialogue one on one with Mia, 847 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: something I had not done yet. I had spoken with 848 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,520 Speaker 2: both her and Jenna together, but not Mia alone. This 849 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,520 Speaker 2: was a good opportunity to get complete perspective from her 850 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 2: end and to figure out what's going on inside her head. 851 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 2: We had some time to kill before the movie, so 852 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: we hung out at her apartment for a little bit. 853 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 2: It was very awkward, really awkward. I had no idea 854 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: how to behave around her anymore. I'd been over at 855 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: her place a thousand times before, just her and I 856 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 2: hanging out, but this time was different, and we both 857 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,280 Speaker 2: knew it. She finally made a joke about the elephant 858 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,360 Speaker 2: in the room and we both kind of relaxed and 859 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 2: started talking more. 860 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: Fluidly, well kind of fluid. 861 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,440 Speaker 2: It was then we both opened up and gave each 862 00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 2: other a little more outlook into our feelings and whatnot. 863 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,040 Speaker 2: Right before it was time to head to the movie. 864 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: It was like we were friends again instead of two 865 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 2: people on an awkward date, which is nice. We saw 866 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,920 Speaker 2: Interstellar because she hadn't seen it yet great movie, and 867 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 2: we both love movies. I had already seen it once 868 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 2: and needed to see it again because of that whole 869 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 2: ending thing. Halfway through the movie, she leaned her head 870 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 2: on my shoulder and cuddle up next to me. She 871 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,760 Speaker 2: had done this in the past when we were watching 872 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: movies together on Netflix at home, but of course things 873 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 2: are different. 874 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 1: Now this is gonna go so freakin' bad. 875 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,800 Speaker 2: She eventually grabbed and held my hand, which was sweaty 876 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 2: from nerves and from the intensity of the movie. For 877 00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,879 Speaker 2: those of you who have seen the film, possibly spoilerhead, 878 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,400 Speaker 2: but not really, but maybe when that one explosion happens 879 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,280 Speaker 2: that you know is about to happen, but still managed 880 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 2: to scare the piss out of you, even if you've 881 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 2: already seen the dang thing. She shrieked and grabbed me 882 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 2: and buried her face in my chest. It was so cute. 883 00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: Me and I are those people that talk about movies 884 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 2: after we see them. We had plenty to talk about 885 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 2: over dinner, which went, well. 886 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did you try to imply that that's not 887 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: what people do after they see movies. You think they 888 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 1: just go, yeah, well, now we're done seeing that movie. 889 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: We should talk, go back to talking about stocks and 890 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: taxes and anything else besides the movie we just saw. 891 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 2: Are you a movie talker? Like in movie talking? 892 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,680 Speaker 1: I will if if people the people with me are 893 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 1: cool with it, I will. 894 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 2: I love it. I love talking. 895 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,000 Speaker 1: It has to be a movie I've already seen them, yeah, 896 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: Or it has to be an absolutely trash movie like 897 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 1: I saw. I saw It's a terrible horror movie in 898 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: theaters with like a group of like five friends and 899 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: there was only one other person in the theater, and 900 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 1: so we were just eviscerating it the whole time. 901 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 2: But to not go too far off topic. Yeah, let 902 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,919 Speaker 2: us know, are you guys movie talkers or not? Put 903 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 2: us put the answers to the chat. After dinner, we 904 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 2: went to the nearby park to walk around, look at 905 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 2: Christmas lights, and talk more. It was really nice. We 906 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,880 Speaker 2: really dove in deep about what was going on and 907 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: it was a great talk. And here are some highlights. 908 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,839 Speaker 2: We talked about how our relationship started. I met Mia 909 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 2: and Jenna the same night at a friend's a mutual 910 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 2: friends party. I hit on both of them, not knowing 911 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,319 Speaker 2: there were roommates at the time, but Mia was in 912 00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,320 Speaker 2: a relationship and Jenna wasn't. That's how my relationship with 913 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 2: them began. They apparently always got to laugh about it 914 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,319 Speaker 2: and joked that I could have had my pick of 915 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 2: the two had Mia been single. Man. Man, it's a 916 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 2: regular casanova over here. We shared similar interests in movies, 917 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 2: physical activity, sports, etc. We've always talked about going to 918 00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: the gym together. Now I think we might actually do. Dude, 919 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,600 Speaker 2: I think this is going well. I think this is 920 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 2: going well. 921 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: Where this is? This is where I see this going. 922 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to the track I see 923 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: this going to. Now, you're gonna have two women fighting 924 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: over you because Mia is now going to you know, 925 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: the person who's iconically unable to be single, Yeah, who 926 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: like probably gets a lot of their value and self 927 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:23,520 Speaker 1: worth from their relationships, is now going to split that 928 00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,359 Speaker 1: with another person. I don't think that's gonna go very 929 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: well for that. 930 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 931 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 1: I think they don't realize how much they're going to 932 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: hate that. 933 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 2: And women fighting over you is stressful. 934 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: I uh, yeah, I would say that is probably the case. 935 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, But like you're just Telly, You're just a 936 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,239 Speaker 2: tough place to be. 937 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: You're walking towards the edge of the volcano, brother, you're 938 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: just about to jump in. 939 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:50,279 Speaker 2: So we talked about her past relationships. Normally this is 940 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,359 Speaker 2: a no no on a first date, I don't think. 941 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:57,439 Speaker 2: So I talked about past relationships, of course with Ali, 942 00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,799 Speaker 2: my girlfriend, and we talked about it, actually mostly on 943 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,160 Speaker 2: her relationships, but a little bit on my I think 944 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:02,720 Speaker 2: it's great. 945 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 3: You can't. 946 00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,399 Speaker 1: You can do that. I don't think there's any problem 947 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: about talking about past relationships. 948 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,240 Speaker 2: But I've known her for so long and have always 949 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,120 Speaker 2: kept my distance from her love life. She did not 950 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,120 Speaker 2: seem to mind when she would break up with a guy. 951 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,879 Speaker 2: Jenna was the one who would console her. I help 952 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 2: in any way I could, but not much as I 953 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 2: can do when her best friend is taking control of 954 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 2: the situation. So we touched on that. I told her 955 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,160 Speaker 2: that I wasn't a fan of the majority of the 956 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 2: guy she had dated, and she nodded and agreed. She 957 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 2: talked to me about the problem she was having at 958 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: the time and how she was finally able to seek 959 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 2: out help a few months ago. That's what she had 960 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 2: been doing for the past four plus months. I was 961 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,080 Speaker 2: mistaken in my original post, instead of saying three months 962 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 2: three months, he was working on herself. Something about her 963 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,799 Speaker 2: was just different this evening. In contrast to how she 964 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 2: was in the past, she seemed more at peace with 965 00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,880 Speaker 2: who she was. I don't really know how else to 966 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,200 Speaker 2: describe it. Whatever she's doing, it's working. Come on to Cony. 967 00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 2: Gotta admit you, gotta admit it's kind of going well. 968 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: Being Like, Wow, I rehabbed my Achilles injury. I'm gonna 969 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: run third five miles NonStop now as hard as I can. 970 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna put myself in the most stress testing environment. Oh, 971 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:13,239 Speaker 1: I've fixed my Oh, I've realigned my core values, and 972 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: I can better approach dating as a whole. Let's jump 973 00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: into one of the hardest versions of dating. 974 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like a It's like, you know, you've done 975 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 2: like ten push ups and now you're ready for gladiator. 976 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 1: You're setting yourself up for a failure. 977 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 2: Buddy, I told her I always thought she was worth 978 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 2: more than the way her boyfriends treated her, and she 979 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 2: blushed and appreciated the sentiment. I got her side. And 980 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 2: then later that night the light bulb clicked. 981 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, So this is what happened. So this is 982 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: how this started. They Mia and Jenna. We're talking one 983 00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,960 Speaker 1: night and their previous smooch session. 984 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 2: I got her side of the night the light bulb 985 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 2: clip for both of them, because she tends to be 986 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 2: better with words than Jenna. This is a bastaurized career 987 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 2: collapse of what she said to me because it's early 988 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,799 Speaker 2: and I can't remember every detail, so I apologize if 989 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,880 Speaker 2: anything is unclear. Basically, Mia always had a thing for 990 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,440 Speaker 2: Jenna in the back of her mind and always repressed it, 991 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 2: and eventually developed feelings for me too, So we all 992 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 2: developed feelings for ope. I don't think me always thought 993 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 2: I was attractive and really appreciated the way I handled 994 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,680 Speaker 2: myself around both Jenna and herself. Jude oftentimes compliment me 995 00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 2: to Jenna, and Jenna would make fun of her for 996 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,360 Speaker 2: having a crush on me. Eventually, Mia brought up the 997 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 2: idea of a threesome with Jenna and me, and she 998 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,360 Speaker 2: said Jenna was more enthusiastic than she thought she'd be. 999 00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 2: That made Mia more excited. The night at the bar, 1000 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,640 Speaker 2: after talking about all the things they used to do together, 1001 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,319 Speaker 2: everything they've been through together, the light went on and 1002 00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:46,839 Speaker 2: she finally realized her true feelings. She and Jenna soon 1003 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,560 Speaker 2: had a very emotional conversation in which they told each 1004 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:52,920 Speaker 2: other how they felt. Tears were shed, feeling shared, all 1005 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,360 Speaker 2: that good stuff. Mia admitted to Jenna that she loved 1006 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:58,600 Speaker 2: her but also had a crush on me and was 1007 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,359 Speaker 2: really confused. Jenna admitted she loves us both, but said 1008 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,520 Speaker 2: she wouldn't break up with me. For Mia to answer 1009 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 2: that question from the last two threats, Mia then said 1010 00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,839 Speaker 2: there was a pipe dream that we could all date 1011 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,200 Speaker 2: each other, but never considered it a real possibility. When 1012 00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 2: she found out I was actually okay with it, he 1013 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 2: was shocked and excited. I got to share my feelings, 1014 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 2: mostly about how confused they were. I've always been monogamous, 1015 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 2: as had they, and while it was a new concept, 1016 00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 2: it was exciting. I told her my biggest fear is 1017 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,719 Speaker 2: that we'd all end up hating each other. But at 1018 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 2: the same time, nothing good ever happened from not trying. 1019 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 2: But you had to say about that. 1020 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: I could come up with some contrarian examples, but I 1021 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:41,799 Speaker 1: won't say them. 1022 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: We talked about for this to work out, everyone would 1023 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 2: have to be one hundred percent honest and open. We 1024 00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,000 Speaker 2: walked around, held hands and talked for a long time. 1025 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,720 Speaker 2: It was probably one of the best dates I've ever 1026 00:48:54,760 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: been on. Me and I get along greatest friends. There's 1027 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 2: definitely chemistry between us. When I drop her off at 1028 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,640 Speaker 2: the apartment, I got a good night kiss, something I 1029 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 2: wasn't planning on, but a pleasant surprise. I got home 1030 00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 2: in Texa Jenna and she immediately came over. We live 1031 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 2: in the same apartment complex to see how everything wents. 1032 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 2: Is Jenna gonna be okay with it? Is Jenna gonna 1033 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:16,319 Speaker 2: be okay with it? What do you think? 1034 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I'm sure she's gonna be thrilled about it. 1035 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,880 Speaker 1: But the problem is that what's the problem. 1036 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,320 Speaker 2: I don't see any problems. It seems like everyone's like, 1037 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 2: like getting along right. 1038 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,000 Speaker 1: The problem is where this ends up? 1039 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:27,840 Speaker 2: Dude, Kea, do you. 1040 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 3: Have a problem with this? As of right now, it 1041 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 3: seems clear as day, like it looks like it's working. 1042 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 2: I think it's working. 1043 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 3: I think it's working. Like everyone talked about it. Everyone 1044 00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 3: seems like they're on the same page. 1045 00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 2: As long as there's clear communication. 1046 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 3: I'm waiting for the jealousy aspect to come in, but 1047 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,080 Speaker 3: I don't think it's gonna happen. 1048 00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,320 Speaker 2: I don't think so either. I think I'm I'm. 1049 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: I guarantee you Jenna's gonna be like stoked. She's like, 1050 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, you guys, you guys are connecting. You 1051 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:51,080 Speaker 1: guys look so cute. 1052 00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1053 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,720 Speaker 1: So, as Mia and Oki begin to build their dynamic, 1054 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: because they don't have one yet, as they begin to build, 1055 00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: it is going to develop these feelings that she had 1056 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 1: not had, and there is going to be this, well 1057 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 1: who is you know? Oh, well, we're all dating each other, 1058 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:14,160 Speaker 1: so everyone's at exactly the same place emotionally with each other. 1059 00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: But that's not going to be the case because there's 1060 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 1: always going to be some level of fluctuation. But that 1061 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: is going to drive her literally insane, and this is 1062 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: all gonna explode, all right there it is. I think 1063 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:27,920 Speaker 1: that's part of being polly or non monogamous. It's just 1064 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,000 Speaker 1: it fluctuates. But like, how do you It's how you 1065 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,360 Speaker 1: handle it and how you communicate through it. Hey, I'm buying. 1066 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,320 Speaker 1: I have two dogs. I can either get the little 1067 00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,360 Speaker 1: chihuahua you hate dogs. I can get the one hundred 1068 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,320 Speaker 1: and eighty pound rottweiler with glowing red eyes. That's totally 1069 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,960 Speaker 1: different with like dark like spells being like, I'm just 1070 00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 1: saying it's like the only one of one of those. 1071 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,279 Speaker 1: Both of those options could work, but like one has 1072 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:59,480 Speaker 1: a much higher likelihood of like problems happening. Little chihuahua 1073 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,600 Speaker 1: glowing one of them might be a worse situation. 1074 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,560 Speaker 2: Mind no, no, the dog glowing red eyes kind of 1075 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:05,160 Speaker 2: sounds cute. 1076 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 1: Its name is Princess. 1077 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 2: I was completely upfront with her, Jenna. So now he's 1078 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,520 Speaker 2: talking to Jenna about their relationship with Mia, and told 1079 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:16,960 Speaker 2: her everything, all the contact, the handholding, the kiss. She 1080 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 2: just seemed thrilled good. She was happy for me. 1081 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: Right of course she was because this was her idea. 1082 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:24,840 Speaker 1: This is Jenna's idea. 1083 00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:27,400 Speaker 2: She was happy for mea That's when I kind of 1084 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 2: just got it and understood everything as a whole. There 1085 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:33,800 Speaker 2: was no jealousy from Jenna, there were no hurt feelings. 1086 00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 2: She was proud and happy about me and Mia. It's 1087 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,400 Speaker 2: what people over in the Polysop told me should happen. 1088 00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 2: I don't know. All the self doubt kind of went away, 1089 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,759 Speaker 2: and at this point I was just content. Seeing her 1090 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:45,719 Speaker 2: so happy about the success of the day just put 1091 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,840 Speaker 2: it all in perspective, and I, in turn one of 1092 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,480 Speaker 2: the same for her and Mia. Her and Mia hung 1093 00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,759 Speaker 2: out themselves last night, and Jenna told me they had 1094 00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 2: a blast, talked about me and I date and shared 1095 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 2: a moment themselves when she told me, I wasn't upset 1096 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,719 Speaker 2: at all. I was happy and content is where we 1097 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,400 Speaker 2: are now. We're all hanging out tonight just for fun. Also, 1098 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:07,399 Speaker 2: this story has a third left. We still got more. Yeah. Oh, 1099 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 2: we have to see how everything goes. But so far, 1100 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 2: so good. This will probably be my last update. It's 1101 00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 2: not unless something crazy happens or it all blows over 1102 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:18,200 Speaker 2: my face again. There is an updates, so wait around. 1103 00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 2: Thanks for reading listening to me. Even when I was 1104 00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,840 Speaker 2: being a wiener, the entire process running it all seems 1105 00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 2: and seeing things from different angles has been cathartic. There 1106 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,160 Speaker 2: are some comments, and I believe another update. 1107 00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet you. I well, who knows what's in 1108 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 1: that update? Also, everyone stopped painting on chihuahuas. Two of 1109 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 1: my favorite dogs were Zeus and Loki. Here two little 1110 00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: chihuaha's name were perfect. 1111 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,000 Speaker 2: So wow was our yappers dude? 1112 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: They were perfect adorable little dogs and they did not yep. 1113 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,959 Speaker 1: They were well yeah trained, Yeah, they behaved well because 1114 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,400 Speaker 1: their owners made sure they did so. Comment One last 1115 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:53,360 Speaker 1: update my butt, update us all when you all bang 1116 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: comment too. Someone is definitely going to get phased out eventually, 1117 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: but I think it will be Ope. 1118 00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 2: I don't know. This just seems so well. Weird Op 1119 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:02,200 Speaker 2: was going to propose to Jenna exactly, and now he's 1120 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 2: dating someone in addition to Jenna, and everyone is supposed 1121 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 2: to be hunky dory about it and no one is 1122 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,880 Speaker 2: going to feel like a third wheel. It all started 1123 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 2: with Jenna and Mia wanted to f but Jenna was 1124 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,000 Speaker 2: in a serious relationship. This does not seem like a 1125 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: great or realistic solution. But Jenna does get to have 1126 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 2: her cake and eat it too for a while and 1127 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:21,280 Speaker 2: wet which. 1128 00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: Look care Jenna can eat the cake and have it. 1129 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't care about that. If you are okay with that, Ope, 1130 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,440 Speaker 1: that's cool. Letter. If you have no feelings for me, 1131 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,840 Speaker 1: but you're like, yes, Gina, you can go date Mia, 1132 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: but without me, and I don't care feelings for me? No, 1133 00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:38,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't. 1134 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:39,239 Speaker 2: He had a date. 1135 00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 1: He was like, I had a date, but there were 1136 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: no the feelings where I feel like this is my 1137 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,840 Speaker 1: best sparks best. 1138 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:53,120 Speaker 2: When you you no, there were sparks. They both liked movies, 1139 00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 2: I didn't know. They publick movies and they both like 1140 00:53:55,640 --> 00:54:00,680 Speaker 2: to talk about the stop the ding dong, it's the 1141 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 2: wedding bells. They both like movies people. Oh my god, 1142 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,280 Speaker 2: They're made for each other, literally designed in a laboratory. 1143 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,440 Speaker 2: I'm glad you think so. 1144 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,759 Speaker 1: And to be clear, the only the I think Op 1145 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,080 Speaker 1: and Jenna are fine. The thing that's going to mess 1146 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,319 Speaker 1: all this up is Mia. Well that's my prediction. Let's 1147 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:22,799 Speaker 1: see update three. All right, I want I want one 1148 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,400 Speaker 1: more pull. Do you think it's gonna have a happy 1149 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,200 Speaker 1: or sad ending? Put your answers in the chat right now? 1150 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:37,000 Speaker 1: What happier sad ending? We have a final update? Okay, 1151 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:43,160 Speaker 1: wow fifty f fifty seven Okay, Tom, It says, Okay, 1152 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,040 Speaker 1: I get both Sam's CODA Dakota's POV because I've been 1153 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: here too. I dated my bff's husband once and she 1154 00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 1: was totally psyched out about it. 1155 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,439 Speaker 2: But when it ended, it kind of ended the friendship too. 1156 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,759 Speaker 2: I think that's the that's the con. I think that's 1157 00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,680 Speaker 2: a contract you sign up for. Yeah, I mean it's 1158 00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 2: like I think, I think you enter into a new 1159 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 2: relationship when you add someone and then if it doesn't 1160 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,799 Speaker 2: work between any of those people. I think the whole 1161 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,879 Speaker 2: relationship can end. It looks like people are a little 1162 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,239 Speaker 2: push more towards happy. It went from like twenty five 1163 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,520 Speaker 2: percent to thirty six percent, but still majority are saying sad, 1164 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 2: ending they're on the Dakota side of things. Let's see 1165 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 2: what happens in update three. So I wasn't planning on 1166 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 2: updating again until we all had spicy sleep with each 1167 00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 2: other and I even had a great play on words 1168 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,880 Speaker 2: ready for the title update threesome. 1169 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 1: Oh wow, hey, nice dude, what are you doing here? 1170 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:40,400 Speaker 1: You should be at the Harvard Comedy College teaching people 1171 00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,040 Speaker 1: how to write jokes. 1172 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 2: Amen. But now I can't do that because things got 1173 00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 2: e fie, No way, things got a little messed up. Dude, 1174 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 2: now's got a Messye. 1175 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: No, you didn't get married to both of them. 1176 00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 2: All right. I was at them all doing some Christmas 1177 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 2: shopping today with me. Well, Jenna was at work. 1178 00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's the Christmas shopping again. 1179 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,959 Speaker 2: Things. I've been progressing nicely and we're getting along great. 1180 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,839 Speaker 2: Me is very bubbling and getty, always holding my hand 1181 00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:11,560 Speaker 2: and leaning up to kiss me on the cheek every 1182 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,239 Speaker 2: once in a while it's cute. In the middle of 1183 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 2: our shopping trip, though, I got a call from my 1184 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,879 Speaker 2: brother twenty seven mail. 1185 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,839 Speaker 3: All right, you guys ready to play parts here because 1186 00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 3: it's back and forth? 1187 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 1: All right? 1188 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,359 Speaker 2: Okay, so do you want me brother? 1189 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll be a brother. 1190 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 2: All right? What are you up to? Getting some getting 1191 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 2: some christallers? Do my regular voice, because that's what. 1192 00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: Send Christmas shopping down? 1193 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 2: Getting some Christmas shopping done? At the ball? 1194 00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:34,880 Speaker 1: Are you with Jenna? 1195 00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 2: Nah, she's at work. 1196 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,880 Speaker 1: Why I just needed to ask her something about what 1197 00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,520 Speaker 1: to get my wife for Christmas? 1198 00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 2: Why don't you text her yourself? 1199 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,200 Speaker 1: I didn't. She didn't answer, Well, I mean maybe you 1200 00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,040 Speaker 1: can help. I want to meet you. Want to meet 1201 00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: me at mom and Dad's in a little bit. They 1202 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: need our help with Is this some Christmas decorations right now? Anyway? 1203 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:54,919 Speaker 2: Yeah? Sure, I can meet you over there at about 1204 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 2: an hour, I tell you. All right. So now our 1205 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,840 Speaker 2: little little thing has ended. I tell me what's happening. 1206 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 2: We finished shopping and I take her home. I head 1207 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 2: over to my parents, walk into their living room, and 1208 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 2: my mom, dad, and brother are all silent and looking 1209 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:14,520 Speaker 2: at me like I'm unlive the last panda on Earth. 1210 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,480 Speaker 1: Oh, they're not doing an intervention. 1211 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,760 Speaker 2: Oh no, I know what's happened. No, I know what's happened. 1212 00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 3: Ready you get ready for more conversation. 1213 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,360 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know what's happened. Okay, me? Is 1214 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:27,160 Speaker 2: everything all right? 1215 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: Are you cheating on Jenna? 1216 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:32,040 Speaker 2: My heart fell out of my butt. Apparently my brother 1217 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,720 Speaker 2: saw me and me at the mall, and then he 1218 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,800 Speaker 2: called me to verify it was that, in fact, that 1219 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,439 Speaker 2: was in fact me he was looking at, And after 1220 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 2: we hung up, he followed us around and took photos 1221 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,640 Speaker 2: of me and me holding hands and being touchy feely. 1222 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,880 Speaker 2: He then immediately went to our parents to tell them 1223 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,640 Speaker 2: what he saw me doing and showed them the evidence, 1224 00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: and then waited for me to arrive for my intervention. 1225 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,520 Speaker 2: Stopping here real quick, how do you tell your parents 1226 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 2: that you're in a polycule? 1227 00:57:56,680 --> 00:58:02,000 Speaker 1: So when a man and a woman love another woman? Ego, 1228 00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,919 Speaker 1: Hey mom and dad, but you didn't know your son 1229 00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: was an overachiever? Say what are you talking about? You 1230 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,960 Speaker 1: blame it all your parents. You did this, Yeah, this 1231 00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:15,160 Speaker 1: is your future for this. You made me such an overachiever. 1232 00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 1: I just didn't know how to stop. 1233 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,920 Speaker 2: Maybe's so hot? Cool, and collected that I just I 1234 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 2: couldn't get enough. 1235 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,800 Speaker 3: You gave me these jeans. I look like you guys, 1236 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,320 Speaker 3: and I wear them well. 1237 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 2: My family absolutely loves Jenna, and they treat her like 1238 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 2: a daughter slash sister they never had. They've been nothing 1239 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 2: but supportive of relationship from the beginning and have been 1240 00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:37,200 Speaker 2: on my butt to propose for the past few months. 1241 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,360 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Wait, So were you even the one 1242 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 1: who wanted to propose then, or was it just your 1243 00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 1: family pressuring you? 1244 00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:46,000 Speaker 2: He also wanted to propose, but he was also do 1245 00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:48,640 Speaker 2: you know what you want? They saw the look on 1246 00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 2: my face and my mom started crying. My dad yelled, Jesus, cry, 1247 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 2: are you having stupid? I was like a deer caught 1248 00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,080 Speaker 2: in the headlights. I kept staying, no, no, it's it's 1249 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,560 Speaker 2: all you think. I could explain the courage of the 1250 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,160 Speaker 2: cowardly dog. They didn't want to hear it. At this point, 1251 00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 2: I was bright red from embarrassment. My mom was crying, 1252 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,280 Speaker 2: talking about how she thought she raised me better. My 1253 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 2: dad looked like he was about to unlive me. He 1254 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,880 Speaker 2: told me, you need to come clean to that wonderful 1255 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:22,480 Speaker 2: girl and hope she takes your r slur cheating ass back. 1256 00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:27,120 Speaker 2: Here's the abridged version of the conversation that followed me 1257 00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 2: Jenna knows na uh na me. I'm not lying, Nona. 1258 00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,440 Speaker 2: We're all in a relationship together. 1259 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:39,760 Speaker 1: No, that's the dad and the brother for all listeners 1260 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:40,680 Speaker 1: and moms. 1261 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 2: Just me, no, for real, I'll call her. I called 1262 00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,680 Speaker 2: Jenna and put her on speakerphone. Hey, Jenna, I just 1263 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,480 Speaker 2: got back from the mall. My brother saw me and 1264 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 2: me together. My parents now know about everything. Dot dot 1265 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,840 Speaker 2: dot yep, dot dot dot. Are they mad? They think 1266 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm cheating on you? 1267 00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: Did you explain everything I tried? 1268 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,480 Speaker 2: They don't believe me. And you're on speakerphone right now. 1269 01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,919 Speaker 2: Can you just say that I am not cheating on 1270 01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,000 Speaker 2: you so I can leave. 1271 01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:10,760 Speaker 1: Op is not cheating on me. I know he is 1272 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:11,480 Speaker 1: dating me. 1273 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 2: You have been absolved. Thank you, Jenna. I love you. 1274 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 1: I love you too. 1275 01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,240 Speaker 2: Call ends silence. They had a bunch of questions that 1276 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 2: I really didn't have answers to. They asked a lot 1277 01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,680 Speaker 2: of details about the logistics of it all, if I 1278 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:25,840 Speaker 2: still wanted to get married, kids and all that stuff 1279 01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 2: you guys have been asking, even the spicy sleep your family. 1280 01:00:30,080 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 1: Bro, I need to know the questions they asked you, 1281 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,439 Speaker 1: because I guarantee you. One of them was why did 1282 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:38,280 Speaker 1: you want this? And ope goes, I don't really know 1283 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:39,840 Speaker 1: why I wanted this. 1284 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:42,040 Speaker 2: It was a lot harder answering the questions face to 1285 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:43,760 Speaker 2: face with my parents, instead of being able to type 1286 01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 2: and delete anything I said to make sure the words 1287 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,720 Speaker 2: flowed properly. I was ready to pass away from embarrassment. 1288 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,360 Speaker 2: My brother thought it was the funniest thing he'd ever heard, 1289 01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,120 Speaker 2: and laughed periodically throughout the whole conversation. My parents have 1290 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 2: reached the conclusion that I am self destructing my relationship 1291 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:03,360 Speaker 2: with Jenna for a piece of body. As my dad 1292 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 2: so eloquently put it, they could not comprehend to what 1293 01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 2: our dynamic was, But then again, I can't fault them 1294 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 2: for that. It is different. 1295 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: I was real. Then again, I can't really fall them 1296 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,160 Speaker 1: for that because I can't describe it either. 1297 01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 2: They then asked to meet mea which was really weird 1298 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 2: because they've met her many many times before and just 1299 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,000 Speaker 2: called her a side piece. Regardless, I just started dating 1300 01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:26,680 Speaker 2: Mia and it's a little early to be bringing her 1301 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:29,560 Speaker 2: around to meet them. I told them no, and then 1302 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 2: they said it was a phase. Then they said they 1303 01:01:31,840 --> 01:01:33,400 Speaker 2: don't know what to tell the rest of the family, 1304 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 2: and then they said it was all going to blow 1305 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,919 Speaker 2: up my face. In the last few threads. The entire 1306 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 2: time I was talking to them, my phone was blowing 1307 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 2: up with text messages. When I finally left, I saw 1308 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 2: they were all from my brother, who was sending them 1309 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,160 Speaker 2: under the table. They were all along the lines of 1310 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you, and my little bro is 1311 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,480 Speaker 2: a spicy sleep god and asking for details about the 1312 01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,560 Speaker 2: wild threesomes I must be having. Jenn and I just 1313 01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 2: had spicy sleep for the first time since all this 1314 01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:01,800 Speaker 2: started last night of us has had spicy sleep with me. 1315 01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,320 Speaker 2: Yet Mia knew and was cool with that, so no 1316 01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 2: where he's there, so obviously I can't won't tell him 1317 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 2: about that stuff yet or ever. I pissed at my 1318 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 2: brother for being a Waianer. By the way, you should 1319 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,720 Speaker 2: never be a wiener and you should go listen to 1320 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 2: full episodes with stories just like this. Go to Spotify, 1321 01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,680 Speaker 2: Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app and search. Okay, storytime, 1322 01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 2: there's another relevant update, but let's discuss Dakoda. Is this 1323 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 2: ending happily or sadly? 1324 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,160 Speaker 1: I swear to God if this ends without any clear resolution, 1325 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:36,480 Speaker 1: so mad because you know they'll never update this with 1326 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,520 Speaker 1: the hey, so I guess who's single? Like they'll never 1327 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,760 Speaker 1: say They'll never say that I at least maybe not. 1328 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:47,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, Dude, it doesn't feel like they would. Dude. 1329 01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,760 Speaker 1: All of this is goes back to my same point. 1330 01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't think OPI ever knew what they really wanted, 1331 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,680 Speaker 1: because then it even came out that their their family 1332 01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,560 Speaker 1: had been hounding them to propose for months. I bet 1333 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,440 Speaker 1: you that's why OP wanted to propose, because he just 1334 01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 1: felt like, I don't know, everyone's telling me that it 1335 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:04,440 Speaker 1: makes sense, Op. 1336 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 2: He is way too compliant and it's just being pushed 1337 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,080 Speaker 2: by the whims and ones of all those around him 1338 01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,360 Speaker 2: and has a noodle spine. Yeah, I mean you think 1339 01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,160 Speaker 2: a little noodle spine. 1340 01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you can just like get into a 1341 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:18,280 Speaker 1: rhythm of not really being in tune with what you want, 1342 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,440 Speaker 1: and it'll it can last for a long time. And 1343 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,040 Speaker 1: this is not something you should just float on into. 1344 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:26,320 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I agree that it shouldn't be floated into. 1345 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,240 Speaker 1: But it feels like, I don't know, it feels like 1346 01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:31,880 Speaker 1: they're building good structures for a little polycule to work too. 1347 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:33,800 Speaker 1: I would love to know what you guys think. Put 1348 01:03:33,800 --> 01:03:36,160 Speaker 1: your answers in the comments. Is this going to work? 1349 01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:40,600 Speaker 1: Is this fertile ground for a beautiful polycule to be birthed. 1350 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,120 Speaker 2: There's a little bit more of the story, and I'm 1351 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,000 Speaker 2: gonna go right into it. 1352 01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,280 Speaker 1: I would put so much money. 1353 01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 2: I got back to my apartment complex and went and 1354 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,920 Speaker 2: saw Jenna at her place. Mia was there too. We 1355 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,360 Speaker 2: had a nice long talk about it. Jenna was mortified, 1356 01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Mia felt like a home wrecker, and I just wanted 1357 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,920 Speaker 2: the day to end. Both Mia and Jenna's parents live 1358 01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,280 Speaker 2: out of state, and Jenna always goes there for Christmas. 1359 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,560 Speaker 2: MIA's parents live further away and she couldn't afford to 1360 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 2: get a plane ticket out there this year. I was 1361 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,400 Speaker 2: entertaining the idea of inviting Mia along with me to 1362 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,400 Speaker 2: Christmas at my family's place. Not sure if that's a 1363 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,640 Speaker 2: good idea anymore. Pretty bumm because things were going pretty 1364 01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,560 Speaker 2: smoothly with a little resistance slash drama between the three 1365 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 2: of us. Right now things are pretty darn awkward. We're 1366 01:04:18,160 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 2: all pretty embarrassed at the moment, and that's how my 1367 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:25,080 Speaker 2: parents found out I'm in a polyamorous relationship with two women. 1368 01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 2: I was blowing off the what will you say to 1369 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,720 Speaker 2: your parents' questions from the previous threads because I really 1370 01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,360 Speaker 2: did not think i'd have to deal with it for 1371 01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,120 Speaker 2: a long time. So I was completely caught off guard 1372 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,840 Speaker 2: and had no idea what to say or do. It 1373 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,919 Speaker 2: went about as bad as I hoped it wouldn't. Sorry 1374 01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 2: about the lack of bagging in this update. Just thought 1375 01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:44,760 Speaker 2: i'd share. Hopefully, no more updates for a while, unless 1376 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:48,320 Speaker 2: Spicy Sleep is involved. I'm going to bed and Keon, 1377 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:50,160 Speaker 2: is there an update? 1378 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,600 Speaker 3: I found? I think there's a couple updates, but I 1379 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,200 Speaker 3: found the most recent update, the last the latest update. 1380 01:04:55,480 --> 01:05:00,680 Speaker 1: What, yes, there's an update. I would bet out dates. 1381 01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:04,280 Speaker 1: I would liquidate all of my assets, all of your assets, 1382 01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,919 Speaker 1: all of Kean's assets, and I would say that within 1383 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:11,560 Speaker 1: six months. Mia is like losing her mind because she's 1384 01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:15,080 Speaker 1: completely fallen in love with OPI and can't share him anymore. 1385 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 1: That I garin because I know MIAs. I know the 1386 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 1: MIAs in my life, and that is what they would do. 1387 01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,360 Speaker 2: Keana, how long has it been since the first? 1388 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,920 Speaker 3: Uh? First, that's an older story, so it doesn't have 1389 01:05:31,000 --> 01:05:31,280 Speaker 3: like a. 1390 01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were talking about Interstellar in this story. Oh, 1391 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,480 Speaker 1: this is like ten years old, which I have the 1392 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:40,120 Speaker 1: most annoying Interstellar story. I saw that with a group 1393 01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,439 Speaker 1: of people and then someone was like, it wasn't that good, 1394 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: and I was like why, and they were like, it's 1395 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,680 Speaker 1: just the same movie as Gravity that came out that 1396 01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,800 Speaker 1: same year with George Clooney and Central, which are completely 1397 01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:50,439 Speaker 1: different movies. 1398 01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:50,800 Speaker 2: I saw. 1399 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: They just both take place in space. 1400 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 2: But let's get in to this up date. There are others. 1401 01:05:58,240 --> 01:05:59,840 Speaker 2: Just check my history to see how much of a 1402 01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,919 Speaker 2: I was. I've been getting private messages for the past 1403 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,439 Speaker 2: nine months asking for updates. Oh my god. I wasn't 1404 01:06:07,480 --> 01:06:09,320 Speaker 2: going to do it because I realized how douche I 1405 01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 2: came off the first go round. Kept the private message 1406 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:15,080 Speaker 2: responses when I would log in. Here's the update. Jenna 1407 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:21,920 Speaker 2: and I broke up. I don't know where I stand 1408 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,320 Speaker 2: with Mia. I'm not going to go into a long 1409 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,560 Speaker 2: drawn out story for attention like last time, but the 1410 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,120 Speaker 2: gist of things is they were going great for a while, 1411 01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 2: really great. Everyone was happy. We had tons and tons 1412 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,360 Speaker 2: of spicy sleep. My parents had accepted everything, as long 1413 01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:39,480 Speaker 2: as there was only one of the girls around, and 1414 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:43,479 Speaker 2: they basically just closed their eyes and plugged their ears. Then, 1415 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,640 Speaker 2: about a month ago, I noticed some distance growing between 1416 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:51,600 Speaker 2: Jenna and myself. Mia noticed two. I tried being romantic 1417 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,960 Speaker 2: with her, or even gave Jenna a bit more attention 1418 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:56,920 Speaker 2: than Mia, something that Mia was fine with. For the 1419 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,600 Speaker 2: time being, nothing seemed to bring her out of her funk. 1420 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 2: I finally sat her down two weekends ago. We had 1421 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:05,240 Speaker 2: a long talk about what the problem was. She had 1422 01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,120 Speaker 2: met a guy at work and really liked him and 1423 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:11,520 Speaker 2: wanted to date him too. 1424 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,000 Speaker 1: Oh God, I was wrong. 1425 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,000 Speaker 2: It wasn't me, it was Jenna. I was not cool 1426 01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:20,960 Speaker 2: with this. Mia was not cool with this. We told 1427 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 2: Jenna how we were not cool with it. Together, Jenna 1428 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:30,880 Speaker 2: got defensive. Word were said and things came the lights. Apparently, 1429 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:35,240 Speaker 2: Jenna had hooked up with the guy one night after 1430 01:07:35,320 --> 01:07:38,080 Speaker 2: work and failed to tell either of us until we 1431 01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,720 Speaker 2: interrogated her about the guy for what seemed like forever. 1432 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,720 Speaker 2: I dumped her on the spot. Mia wasn't so quick 1433 01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:49,440 Speaker 2: as to dump her. So I got pissed at Mia 1434 01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:51,840 Speaker 2: got pissed at me back. I said some things. She 1435 01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,080 Speaker 2: said The things Jenna got involved and said some things 1436 01:07:55,160 --> 01:07:57,280 Speaker 2: and told her to stay out of it. In so 1437 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 2: many words, this pissed me off more, and I eventually 1438 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,000 Speaker 2: left the apartment in a huff. I didn't speak to 1439 01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:05,479 Speaker 2: Mia for a few days until we finally texted about 1440 01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 2: what the future held. Oh my god, there's more, there's more. Wow. 1441 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:14,680 Speaker 2: But whoa wild card? Wild card? You've become a very 1442 01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:17,960 Speaker 2: rich man, Dakota, Well tripled all your weak I. 1443 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,800 Speaker 1: Think I only get a partial return on that to 1444 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: parlay parla. Yeah, because I mean I really thought it 1445 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: would be, you know, the tried and true, like someone 1446 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 1: we meet, every relationship is always going sound and it's 1447 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: always something yeah, yea. 1448 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:30,439 Speaker 2: Yea yeah. 1449 01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:34,040 Speaker 1: But it was Jenna. Wo oh my god, oh my god. 1450 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,600 Speaker 1: And it was her idea to start doing this. You 1451 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,599 Speaker 1: know what they say, you give them an inch, they 1452 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:39,120 Speaker 1: take a mail. 1453 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:41,520 Speaker 3: Unbelievable. 1454 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:43,559 Speaker 2: Bravo, bravo, bravo, bravo. 1455 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: Thank you. 1456 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 2: She came over and we talked forever. She says she 1457 01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:51,639 Speaker 2: loves me, but she still loves Jenna and doesn't want 1458 01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 2: to throw away her year's long friendship over this. I 1459 01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,800 Speaker 2: told her it was a perfectly valid excuse to do 1460 01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,639 Speaker 2: so she cried and cried. I asked her where we stood, 1461 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:03,880 Speaker 2: and she said she wasn't sure. What do you mean, 1462 01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 2: the person that didn't cheat on you, you're like not sure about, 1463 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,320 Speaker 2: but you still want to be with Jenna. 1464 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,840 Speaker 1: How hot is Jenna? At this point? I think we 1465 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:12,160 Speaker 1: have to start asking. 1466 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 2: Jenna's probably pretty hot. 1467 01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. For that logic, it's like, well, or maybe it's like, 1468 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:19,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's what's familiar, probably because it was like 1469 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,519 Speaker 1: it was their whole special thing, maybe like a reluctance 1470 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:23,320 Speaker 1: to let go of it. 1471 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 2: I told her I couldn't be with her if she 1472 01:09:25,640 --> 01:09:28,160 Speaker 2: was going to stay with Jenna. I gave her Jenna's 1473 01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:31,120 Speaker 2: things because I was not speaking to Jenna anymore, and 1474 01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,080 Speaker 2: Mia has been talking to her still. I don't know 1475 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,439 Speaker 2: what Mia is going to do, so I am in limbo. 1476 01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 2: So now I'm waiting on Mia and what she decides. 1477 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,479 Speaker 2: If she doesn't come up with a decision too soon, 1478 01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,679 Speaker 2: I'm going to be making one for her. I'm tired. 1479 01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,519 Speaker 2: I've been drunk pretty much NonStop the past week, and 1480 01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 2: I almost feel like I deserve this. 1481 01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: My god brother, make a decision for yourself. 1482 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:54,200 Speaker 2: I don't even know if I still want to be 1483 01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,760 Speaker 2: with Mia. I went from seeing two people I love 1484 01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,080 Speaker 2: on a daily basis to seeing no one and being 1485 01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:02,360 Speaker 2: a hermit. O my brother the Bear Essentials, and he 1486 01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:05,800 Speaker 2: was surprisingly sympathetic towards me about it, said I didn't 1487 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,400 Speaker 2: deserve to be cheated on, no matter how weird my 1488 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:12,080 Speaker 2: relationships were. Crap sucks. Any updates will not receive a 1489 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,840 Speaker 2: new thread. I would just add them here. I'm done 1490 01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 2: being an attention salutes. 1491 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,800 Speaker 1: I just love that the brother who was like, yeah, 1492 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 1: he's the spicy sleep God is down on his luck. 1493 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:24,640 Speaker 1: I gotta be there for. I gotta be there for 1494 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,439 Speaker 1: my spicy sleep God. Brother. I think that, buddy, I 1495 01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,639 Speaker 1: think you should just walk away from this whole situation 1496 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,080 Speaker 1: right now. I don't think. I think you should be 1497 01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:36,000 Speaker 1: done with Mia and Jenna and that whole situation should 1498 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,800 Speaker 1: be put behind you. Shout out to Courtney Electra in 1499 01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:43,720 Speaker 1: the chat for actually predicting this happening. 1500 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,800 Speaker 2: Wow, that is insane. I did not see that killing neither. 1501 01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 2: No see that. 1502 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:52,240 Speaker 1: I did not see that coming at all. Because people 1503 01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 1: were like, he's gonna take a victory lap. I can't. 1504 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 1: I was wrong. I was not. I was not right. 1505 01:10:56,120 --> 01:11:00,400 Speaker 1: You were right, you knew the relationship would that away. 1506 01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,720 Speaker 1: It's like, I was right, but I you know, it 1507 01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,479 Speaker 1: wasn't the way I thought. But that just goes to 1508 01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: show you. It's like when you're in a poly. 1509 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,599 Speaker 2: Relationship, it's like, yeah, you just never know. 1510 01:11:08,520 --> 01:11:12,360 Speaker 1: What's gonna it throws a lot of uncertainty into the 1511 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:13,280 Speaker 1: mix that's not there. 1512 01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:18,800 Speaker 2: Well, that is where that story ends. So, Polly relationships, 1513 01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,479 Speaker 2: can they work? Can they not? 1514 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:21,559 Speaker 1: Yes? No? 1515 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,719 Speaker 2: Debate it in the comments. That is where that story 1516 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,200 Speaker 2: and this episode ends. So if you'll love us, make 1517 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:29,960 Speaker 2: sure to subscribe 1518 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,840 Speaker 1: We love you, and see it tomorrow