WEBVTT - Nip/Tuck 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:05.359 Wind Down with Jane Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:11.760 So we're not in the same location today, Um, welcome 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:16.079 to wind Down. I am in England, Katherine Christen, where 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:20.160 are you guys at Nashville? Nashville? Not in my closet 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.040 this time. Last time I talked to you remotely, I 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:26.279 was in an empty closet, just an empty background. But 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:30.840 I'm at home. This feels very weird that we're like this. 0:00:32.320 --> 0:00:34.879 I'm such a snugger that I have withdrawals when you 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.479 guys are not in the same room as me. So 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:40.440 I'm like, this is fine, Like I'll do it, but 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:43.479 I need to like hold you. Yeah, no, this is 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:46.800 this is This is like a you know, an update 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.560 when we start and then we'll update after. Like I 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.400 need an update on your life, Like what's going on 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:54.639 in your life? Janna. I haven't seen you forever talk 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:00.280 to us, Karmen san Diego because left in England and 0:01:00.320 --> 0:01:02.400 I don't have you talked to you since before then, 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.880 So like, give me something, what's up with your life? 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:13.040 Give me something? Um, so I'm I'm back over in England. Um, yeah, 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:18.320 I had the had the weekend off and what do 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:23.199 you want to know? So she has a a gentleman 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:26.840 friend in England. For the people that are listening that 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:32.120 missed an episode, and it went so well the first 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:37.240 time our little jet setters back international time out. Did 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:40.800 you guys see the instagram that I put? That's next 0:01:40.800 --> 0:01:47.080 we'll talk about in a second. Let's just year in Scotland. Know, 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:48.960 I'm in England right now. I went to Scotland for 0:01:48.960 --> 0:01:52.720 two days because he had two off days. So, um, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.960 what did you do in Scotland? Want to share? Went 0:01:56.080 --> 0:02:02.400 and saw this beautiful cathedral it was so pretty. Visited 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:07.160 a few people and uh, saw like this really cool 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.600 It's called like Necropolis or something, but these like old 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.960 cemetery grave sites from way back into the hundreds. I mean, 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:20.400 it was just it was so cool. Um, it's you know, 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.480 it's so strange though it is. The last time I 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:26.520 was in Scotland, it was with my ex and we 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.400 were it was from my best friend's wedding, one of 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:32.200 my best friend's wedding amy and it was just you know, 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.600 like you have those moments where you're like never in 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.120 a million years getting out of that rental car of 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.359 you know, my ex trying to drive in Scotland did 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.080 I think. Oh, in let's see how in four years 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:54.200 I'm going to be here with my boyfriend? Right? Can 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:56.120 we go back to that? I'm so sorry with the 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:59.120 most you've been to Scotland before. But boyfriend, is this 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:05.600 why we have a uh picture? Yeah, that hand holding official. 0:03:05.840 --> 0:03:08.440 I can appreciate the protection that we have given this 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:15.680 gentleman as he is dapper and sweet and goodhearted. He's 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:22.360 a national treasure over there, he's a sweetheart. And yeah, nos, yeah, 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:26.440 I I am. I am not single, so and it 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:31.240 is one that official. Yes, I mean, she hadn't even 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:35.320 like hesitate with my boyfriend. But isn't that weird though? 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:36.840 Like have you ever had those moments? I mean, I'm 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:40.680 sure like in situations where you're like, I'm like, it's 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.640 just so funny how the life in the world works. 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.360 It's like I never would have I mean to be 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.720 back in that spot and and and it's like or 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:51.600 like you know, four years ago to be like, oh, yeah, 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:53.200 I'm gonna be here again with you know, I'm gonna 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.880 be divorced and and then I'm gonna come back here 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:59.440 with a boyfriend who grew up here. Yeah, it's just 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.040 like I don't know I had just like that moment 0:04:02.120 --> 0:04:04.600 driving like this is this is very It's interesting how 0:04:04.640 --> 0:04:07.280 the world works. I think it's important for people to 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.080 hear that because I've gotten a lot of um. I 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.280 get a lot of your people that reach out asking 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:14.360 me about like, you know, because we've talked about divorce 0:04:14.400 --> 0:04:17.800 and stuff and then and I always tell them I'm like, 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:20.640 you have to, especially because I've been really passionate about 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:22.880 this little movement I made about one more minute with 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:26.719 battling depression, and I'm like, you just don't even know 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.479 all the goodness that is coming to you, like those 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.240 dark times you could I mean you, guys, I sat 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.720 on the floor in an apartment in Kansas City and 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:37.880 I thought about ending my life and on the other 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:43.000 side of those minutes was two babies and a husband 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:48.080 and love again and and and a lot of bs two. 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:50.800 I'll be honest, Like, our industry is hard, and it's 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:52.680 hard to be married in our industry, but it's also 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:55.680 like there is so much Like when you say, I 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:58.280 get out of a rental car with my boyfriend who 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:02.599 was born in Scotlan, like because you can never you 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:05.920 just don't know. And that's like the fun scavenger hunt 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:09.120 of the way our life works. No, but it's true though, 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:10.919 And I think, like, I mean, we've all been in 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.520 those moments and shoot, like however many you know to 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.800 two and a half years ago, Like I'm on the ground, 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.400 like crying my my eyes out, and like I don't 0:05:19.400 --> 0:05:21.800 think anyone's gonna ever love me. And I'm you know, 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:25.120 who who would want to be with me? And I'm um, 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.480 you know I'm never gonna find love again. I'm unlovable. 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:30.720 And it's like I think, you know the lesson and 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:33.200 all of this is like that's just not true, Like 0:05:33.320 --> 0:05:35.880 you will find love again. And and this my I 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.640 don't know if this is my forever person. I've got 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.640 some things that maybe one day I'll share if it 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:47.080 comes to fruition. But like you know, it's like I'm 0:05:47.080 --> 0:05:51.159 gonna just I'm not going to push away love just 0:05:51.200 --> 0:05:53.640 because I've been hurt before. I'm gonna embrace it. I'm 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:57.480 gonna have fun. I'm gonna and if it doesn't work out, well, 0:05:57.520 --> 0:05:59.000 you know what, I'm gonna learn a lot of lessons. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.719 And I had a lot of fun on the way. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:05.520 So's noting to Creamer that you were like for a 0:06:05.560 --> 0:06:08.640 long time you were like, no, way would I do 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.320 international boyfriend. No. I think it's worth noting that at 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.719 some point maybe our own rules are what stand in 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:20.000 the way of us meeting and enjoying another human being, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.400 like the person that you have now as a boyfriend. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:26.080 I just want to keep saying it, um because once 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:28.719 you decided to, like, let that hurdle not be a hurdle. 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:34.480 Look at you, You're glowing England, I know. I mean 0:06:34.480 --> 0:06:37.640 it's truly. I mean I you know, even like when 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.080 I was on that app, I was like, no, they 0:06:39.080 --> 0:06:40.880 live in a different country, like no, no, no, And 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.279 you know, even with him, I said no, Like I 0:06:44.360 --> 0:06:46.200 was just like no, I just like this is this 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.599 is silly. I'm a mom with two kids and I 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.760 live in Nashville, Like this, how would this even work? 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:57.239 And something about him just you know, I was like, Okay, 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:00.200 well let me just see you know, like what what 0:07:00.279 --> 0:07:04.880 does a conversation hurt? Right? And you know, now there's 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.800 something well I don't want to say too much, but 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:11.440 I it just this just feels different. And again, if 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:13.840 it doesn't work out, and I hate to say that, 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:18.960 but I just I'm realistic to the point where um, 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:21.200 I want people to know that no matter what, like 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:23.640 you will be okay and you won't be alone you 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.120 and and to let love in whether you end up 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:30.120 getting hurt or it's here forever. I think that's like 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.560 something that I've really realized because again I was so 0:07:33.840 --> 0:07:36.480 just like I'm not I'm never going to be loved. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:38.400 I mean even you know our friends that have gone through, 0:07:38.680 --> 0:07:40.760 like we've all felt that way, like we're unlovable and 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:43.760 we're never going to find love. And once I found 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:48.240 peace within myself and not like having to have that, 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:52.880 it's kind of found me. Well, I think you also 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.880 believe that no matter what happens with this relationship and 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.560 correct me if I'm wrong, that you're okay, yeah, oh yeah, 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:03.000 fine to be fine. You're going to And that's just 0:08:03.080 --> 0:08:05.200 so different for you, you know what I mean, And 0:08:05.320 --> 0:08:07.040 like you took a lot of work for you to 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:09.280 get there, to truly believe that, And I think, in 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:12.560 my personal opinion, I think that's what made it so 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.400 easy for you to jump in, because you actually believe 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:19.880 that this time that and this one's different, Like I'm 0:08:19.920 --> 0:08:22.360 not like I would pull so many tactics to like 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:26.280 try to push someone away because I didn't. It's it's 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:28.760 almost like I almost didn't believe that I deserved it. 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.560 And also like I just knew they would leave so 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:34.720 or they would end up lying or or doing something 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:39.360 and so but I'm I'm just who I am in 0:08:39.360 --> 0:08:42.240 this relationship is who I've always wanted to be and 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:44.319 what I've always like. I always said, like I have 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:47.880 a lot of love to give, and I I like, 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:49.839 I like, I want to give my love to this 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:53.800 and it has a safe place to land this time. Yeah, 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:58.120 and the Hairways is so happy to have you. Well 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.120 that's the thing. I'm kind of like, okay, my, in 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:01.520 my back of my mind, I mean, people are like 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:04.640 or you know, like how would this ever work? And 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.240 I'm like, I don't know And I'm not even like 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.920 putting stress on it because it's just I'm just enjoying 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.560 where it's at right now and I'm enjoying feeling this way. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:15.240 And why I'm out here so soon is because we're 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.040 trying not to go more than three weeks that's seeing 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:23.240 each other. So um, yes, it was a week later 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.920 I flew out here, but only because I can't come 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.560 back for because you know, weekends and Joel's you know, 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.440 there's things that I couldn't rearranged, and right now he's 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:36.679 with his job, he can't come, so, um, you know, 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:38.560 I'll have to do more of like the bulk of 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.240 the flying and then for the next few months. But 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.560 I'm excited about it, and um, you know in three 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:48.800 weeks hopefully I'll be back and yeah, bring him to us. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.400 When does he come to us? Yeah, that's my next question. 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:55.480 I feel like you're keeping him over the pond. Bring 0:09:55.559 --> 0:10:01.800 him to meet him? Um, yeah, I mean it just depends, 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:07.240 like with work and stuff, you're just not giving too much, 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:09.320 which I'm like really proud of. But then also the 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:15.040 people want to know Cramer. I'm happy, and I think 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:18.200 that's the that's the piece where I'm just like it 0:10:18.320 --> 0:10:25.240 just feels really nice and just yeah, I'm I'm just 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:27.160 I don't want to put too much like pressure on 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:30.000 it and I just want to enjoy enjoy it. Would 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.400 you like to give your listeners any hints about this 0:10:33.480 --> 0:10:38.440 person or any information at all, like any um for 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:42.520 this is an easter egg. For a long time ago, 0:10:44.120 --> 0:10:48.800 Mark had asked or had told me who he thinks 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:54.040 I should end up with. What sport and he's right. 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:59.320 Remember I wish Mark was here. Was good. We need 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:02.120 Mark that was used so if you all want to 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:04.760 go back, you can find it there. Good. I wish 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.560 everyone could see the group chat that happens while we're 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:13.720 doing because my heart l A is like, yeah, everyone's 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:17.440 so sweet about it. Yeah Mark, Mark was like, I 0:11:17.440 --> 0:11:21.360 would really like to see you be with someone who X, 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:25.360 Y and Z played the plas. Yeah. Now everyone exits 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:32.120 this podcast and goes back to re listen. But yeah, 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.920 very happy, Janna, thank you. I'm like, I'm yeah, So 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.920 it's gonna be tough. I mean, I've never done long distance, 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.040 but again I'm just enjoying being happy and it's all good, 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:44.280 Like there's there's gonna be lessons learned along the way. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:46.640 I'll learned things out whether it works out or whether 0:11:46.640 --> 0:11:50.360 it doesn't. And um, I think that's the piece that 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:54.280 I know either way, Like I'm okay. One thing I love, love, 0:11:54.320 --> 0:11:56.320 love about long distance, which I know is like the 0:11:56.360 --> 0:11:58.960 double edged sword. But in Preston, I did a lot 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:00.960 of not seeing each other for a really long time 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:02.600 until we saw so much of each other that we 0:12:02.679 --> 0:12:08.079 made a million babies. But the you have to have trust. 0:12:08.800 --> 0:12:11.680 You build a different level of trust with each other 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.000 and a different level of intimacy and intention because you 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:19.600 can't pick each other up for a date night. Yeah, 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.959 and anything really cool about that. Yeah, I'll never get 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.240 into a situation again where I can't trust someone because 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:29.000 I do not like who I become. Um and so, 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:32.199 but there's something again, something is just very different about 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:37.880 this relationship that I have like zero worries or fear. 0:12:37.920 --> 0:12:39.959 So I'm just and if something was to happen again, 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:41.719 I'm like, all right, like thanks for showing me who 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.280 you are and I'm out, you know, so and again 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:52.520 I'll find the lessons in it, so Cramer. So but 0:12:52.559 --> 0:12:54.240 I'll be how many few days and we'll be together 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.960 next week and it'll be great. So and we'll go 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:03.439 from there. But UM, bring him to us, Yeah, hopefully 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:08.520 one day. But we have Dr lakey On. He's a 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.880 plastic surgeon, you guys. But he wrote a book which 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.240 I think is really cool, Um, basically about loving yourself. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.040 Because he's got m he's got some kids, and so 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:22.400 I think that's going to be interesting. It's called Nobody 0:13:22.480 --> 0:13:24.640 Is the Same, a book about body positivity. So we're 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.839 going to get him on Chris, and I know you've 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:32.400 wanted some things in the plastic surgery area, um, which 0:13:32.480 --> 0:13:34.600 I think you're beautiful. You don't need anything, but I 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:37.600 know how we all look at ourselves and your noses 0:13:37.640 --> 0:13:39.280 grow forever. That's all. I just need to talk to 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:43.360 him about a little tiny touch up. Really do your 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:45.560 nose and your ears? I think that's true in your 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:50.400 face drinks. Oh that's when you get like when you 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:52.320 see older people, it's because their face is shrunken him, 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:55.000 but they're not like I didn't know, so maybe that's 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:59.280 why the noses look bigger. I thought, you're we need 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.040 to like, yeah, we need a doctor because this is 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:07.480 all misinformation and some call the doctor. All right, let's 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.520 get Dr Laky. He is part of the Beverly Hills 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.160 Classic Surgeon Dr John Lakey, co founder of Beverly Hills Empty. 0:14:27.800 --> 0:14:33.200 Dr Lakey, how are you fantastic? Good morning? Good morning? Um, okay, 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:35.960 I have well, we all have a lot of questions 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:38.640 for you, but I want to talk about your book. 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.360 But I first want to talk about can I we 0:14:41.400 --> 0:14:46.160 talk about the plastic surgery side of things first of course? Okay, 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.080 so what do you specialize in for plastic surgeries. It 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.960 is it all surgeries or UM's started off that way, 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:56.720 trained in everything and operating from petatoe and then slowly 0:14:56.720 --> 0:14:59.560 found my dich So I'm really neck up my partner's 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:03.640 neck own. So it just makes it easy a combination 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:10.200 of both partners. It makes for a quick recovery. We'll see. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:13.360 Um Yeah, listen, I just found my my niche. I 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:17.240 really enjoy operating face. I think it's very detailed and uh, 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:20.040 there's a lot of artistry and finesse involved, and so 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:23.120 I just tended to gravitate towards that. Have you found 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:29.640 an increase of UM face classic surgery since filters have 0:15:30.000 --> 0:15:33.440 entered Instagram? Definitely? I mean I I think a thousand 0:15:33.480 --> 0:15:36.960 percent um The you know, now the interesting part, especially 0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.720 in Beverly Hills and we get all kinds of requests, 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:42.200 but I have people who flying from all over the 0:15:42.240 --> 0:15:46.520 world asking to look like a particular filter. And I 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:49.920 think that with the advent of social media, although it's 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:55.600 amazing for extrapolating data and getting your information as quickly 0:15:55.600 --> 0:16:01.960 as possible, I think that our perceptions of what beauty is, um, 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.920 you know, what a human should look like is is 0:16:05.040 --> 0:16:08.280 drastically changed. I think, you know, some of the concepts 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.680 are still there. I mean, they'll will always be prevalent 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:15.520 in society, but now some of the altered uh you know, 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:19.040 facial features based off of a filter. You know, it's 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:22.920 it's amazing to me, so um, you know, and that's 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.240 ultimately where I started this, this kind of kind of 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:28.640 this idea. I have three toddlers of my own, and 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:33.680 so um, it's hard being a plastic surgeon and telling them, oh, listen, 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:36.920 you know, you're beautiful the way you are, and as 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:41.120 they grow, it will be more difficult, especially you know 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:45.360 in teen years. I mean I think that, you know, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:50.480 our perception of our own self and our own self worth, 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:55.119 our own self beauty can greatly influence our mental status. 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:59.760 And so this is how depression and eating disorders and 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:05.440 then anxiety, you know, image disturbances, body dysmorphia, all these 0:17:05.520 --> 0:17:09.400 things develop at a relatively young age. And I think 0:17:09.440 --> 0:17:15.080 that now watching young teens and preteens stare at their 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:19.000 phones incessantly, um, I think we're gonna be in for 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.000 for some trouble. So then are you for having conflict 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.439 kind of then in yourself with what you do and 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:27.000 then and then being in the position obviously as a 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:30.840 dad and everything else. You know, the interesting part. I'm 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:34.040 definitely not working myself out of a career. That's you know. 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:38.760 I think there's always a place for even cosmetic surgery. 0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:41.760 Definitely reconstructive curcuity, but there's definitely a place for cosmetic surgery. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.879 I think that if you're comfortable in your own skin, 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:50.280 and you have tried to do something to better yourself, 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.000 and there's one thing that bothers you, and and everybody has. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:55.960 I mean, we have supermodels that come in and say 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.320 this really bothers me, and you'll stare at and then 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.600 think I don't and understand. But you know, everybody has 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:07.720 that within themselves. And um, you know, for the sixteen 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:10.680 year old that's getting bullied because you know, her nose 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:13.800 is cricket or too large, or um, you know, for 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.560 the the boy who's trying to play sports you can't 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:20.320 breathe or you know. I think that there's always going 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:24.480 to be a place for a plastic reconstructive surgery. UM. 0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:29.520 I just think that the trends are going so far 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:35.879 off the track that you know it frankly, you know, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:39.680 I think some of it is becoming ridiculous. Well, I'll, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.960 I mean, I'll call myself out where you know. I 0:18:44.000 --> 0:18:47.919 remember I was I was waitressing justin Los Angeles. I 0:18:47.920 --> 0:18:51.440 was nineteen years old and I was waitressing at this um. 0:18:51.480 --> 0:18:53.119 I was doing like this red bull thing at this 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.399 plastic surgeon's house, and I said, if there's one thing 0:18:55.440 --> 0:18:56.879 you could do to my face, what would you do? 0:18:57.480 --> 0:18:59.840 And he goes your nose. And ever since then, I've 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:04.040 been so self conscious of my nose. Even so Katherine's 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:05.920 at the top, there's also my managers. I'm always like, 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:07.480 oh no, I hate that picture. My nose looks big, 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:09.600 and my nose looks big, and so since these filters, 0:19:10.200 --> 0:19:13.160 I'm like, I have this one and I go, oh wow, 0:19:13.320 --> 0:19:16.679 I like my nose better in this filter, and so 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.000 it's hard for me. But I'm like, but that's so 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.640 awful that I'm like wanting to use this filter because 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:23.119 I like the way my nose looks better in it. 0:19:23.520 --> 0:19:26.520 But then when I turn it off the filter, I'm like, oh, 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.080 and then I don't like myself, and then I'm then 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:30.760 I'm just like I throw my phone because I'm like, 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:32.840 this is I get like insecure, and I'm like this 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:36.960 is ridiculous, yes, which you know and listen, we can't 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.680 take a step back and say, you know, that's obviously ridiculous. 0:19:40.720 --> 0:19:45.520 You're gorgeous. The thing is even with you know, when 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:48.200 you look at the Halley berries, when you look at 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:53.399 the Jennifer Iniston's where they have subtle fine uh you know, 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:57.720 will say refinements. Um, I don't know that that is 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:02.960 necessarily as bad as you know, trying to create a 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:07.320 tap filter or a you know, the pinched tip. You 0:20:07.359 --> 0:20:09.960 know where it's clearly not it looks like more of 0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:13.879 an avatar that it does a human. Um. Again, I 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:18.760 think what I enjoy doing is those subtle refinements, making 0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.199 them look as though you were born with them. And 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:25.360 these aren't things. Again, we all obsessed about tiny little things. 0:20:25.440 --> 0:20:27.679 It doesn't mean you don't love yourself, but there are 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.920 certain instances where you know you want to improve something, 0:20:31.960 --> 0:20:34.720 and that's where you know there is that conflict where 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:39.399 you know, I start off by saying, listen, and this 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:42.399 is the base. You have to love yourself first for 0:20:42.480 --> 0:20:45.160 who you are. Then you choose to change something. That's 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:49.360 completely fine. If it's to the point where your reclusive 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:54.880 because someone has commented or bullied or you know, made 0:20:54.960 --> 0:20:59.160 reference to something that you thought was normal until someone 0:20:59.240 --> 0:21:01.320 brought it up. It's a different ball game. And I 0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:04.479 think that as a society as a whole, you know, 0:21:04.600 --> 0:21:07.879 if we approach there wouldn't be such animosity, would be 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:11.680 such a divide, There wouldn't, you know, be such stratification 0:21:12.240 --> 0:21:15.879 if everybody was as accepting. It doesn't mean you can't 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.960 change something about yourself. I mean, because that's more of 0:21:20.000 --> 0:21:24.240 a personal decision. It's not that society is making. Yeah, 0:21:24.280 --> 0:21:26.480 I mean, I got a blue job the last year 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.480 and it was one of the best things. I love it. Like, 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.320 I'm just like, this is It's not that I didn't 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:32.919 like my body. It is just but now I'm like, 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:36.760 I'm more confident and definitely you fill out clothing you 0:21:37.800 --> 0:21:42.280 it's a complete different mentality. So again, there's nothing wrong 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.240 with that. That's never what I'm going to say because 0:21:45.280 --> 0:21:48.760 that's the job. But I do think that if it 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:52.920 was that someone had told you, look, you know, you're pretty, 0:21:52.960 --> 0:21:56.399 but if you really were a sea cup or higher, 0:21:56.600 --> 0:22:01.159 you'd be a lot prettier. The idea is, you know, again, 0:22:01.240 --> 0:22:04.000 when we focus on something that we want to improve, 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:09.360 in ourselves full different ball game with society is pressured, right, 0:22:09.400 --> 0:22:13.359 I mean, Kristen, you kind of um talked about wanting 0:22:13.400 --> 0:22:17.439 to do things and what if love comes to you 0:22:17.480 --> 0:22:19.399 and says like, I know when Julie she asked me, 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.679 I'm obviously like, hey, when you're older and those are 0:22:21.680 --> 0:22:24.199 those are your choices. But I mean, is that like, 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:27.760 how would you like where's your stance on that? Well? 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:30.120 This is what's tricky for me because I've always it's 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:33.840 interesting that he talks about I just really, first of all, 0:22:33.880 --> 0:22:36.760 I really enjoy your perspective on this a lot because 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:39.680 it is about loving yourself first. And I just turned 0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:42.159 forty one a couple of days ago. I really like, 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:47.000 thank you, capricordination. I really really I love myself. I 0:22:47.040 --> 0:22:49.879 think I'm a wonderful human. Took a lot of work, 0:22:50.359 --> 0:22:54.639 um to say that. But I have always wanted my 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:58.600 nose done. I can't even tell you. I would say 0:22:58.600 --> 0:23:01.000 that it stems from here's a quick funny story. My 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:02.760 mom had a dream when she was pregnant with me 0:23:02.800 --> 0:23:04.720 that she gave birth to a nose. And that is 0:23:04.760 --> 0:23:08.639 because my mom and my dad have these like huge noses. 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.560 When my dad passed a year ago and I have 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.200 since gone like, well, gosh, if I changed too much 0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.760 about my face, then he's, you know, like part of 0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:21.600 that is so it's your lineage too. And recently went 0:23:21.640 --> 0:23:24.440 over to London into France and we have some French 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.199 in us too, and I thought, well, man, that's what 0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:28.800 makes us us. You know. I feel like we're such 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:32.240 a copy paste society here that it sometimes makes me 0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:37.040