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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff

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Speaker 1: I've never told to your protection of I Heeart Radio. Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: today we've decided that it is time for a new

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Speaker 1: edition of Updates and just talking about what is happening

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Speaker 1: in the world, what is going down and all the good,

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Speaker 1: the bad, and unfortunately a lot of ugly. Um. So

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Speaker 1: with that, we do want to give you some trigger

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Speaker 1: warnings as we will be talking about sexual assault, UM,

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Speaker 1: for a lot of people right now, UM, death, an assault,

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Speaker 1: and just issues of black lives matter and for those

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Speaker 1: who have been inundated and have been really overwhelmed. We

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Speaker 1: will be talking about it as well. So there you

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Speaker 1: are fore warned, and we're gonna be talking about some

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Speaker 1: good news too, but it's definitely there, yes, um. And

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Speaker 1: also just to put the old stamp on this one

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Speaker 1: just may as we record this. I did not have

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Speaker 1: to look that up and I feel unreasonably proud about it.

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Speaker 1: You should be proud. I'm very proud of you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Actually one of my favorite numbers. So and have like

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Speaker 1: you know, one day maybe I'll go into my whole

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Speaker 1: pyramid of favorite numbers, but not today. Didn't everybody have those? Though?

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Speaker 1: I don't know do they. I don't have a pyramid.

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Speaker 1: I definitely have like my favorite number, my favorite birthday.

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Speaker 1: And then, oh, we're gonna have to talk about this

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Speaker 1: offline because I hope that my numbers is one of

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Speaker 1: definitely meant to be. Okay, my mom gave me this

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Speaker 1: the basics. And then one of them was a rithmancy

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Speaker 1: We wanted to start with something we've mentioned a couple

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Speaker 1: of times recently, and that is the situation with the

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Speaker 1: women's National team soccer and equal pay, so the women's

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Speaker 1: male men's national team players, do not perform equal work,

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Speaker 1: And in March, the U s s F claimed the

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Speaker 1: overall soccer playing ability required to complete at the senior

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Speaker 1: men's national team is materially influenced by the level of

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Speaker 1: certain physical attributes such as speed and strength. So this

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Speaker 1: is all happening around as you all probably know. We

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Speaker 1: mentioned it in one of our previous updates, the women's

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Speaker 1: national team winning the World Cup and chanting equal pay,

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Speaker 1: and there was this huge push to get that, and

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Speaker 1: then you have pushed back from the organization's running the

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Speaker 1: women's national team. And on May one, a federal judge

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Speaker 1: yes again they're using that as an argument to pay

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Speaker 1: And former FIVA president called the players pretty all and

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Speaker 1: when we were talking about Title nine and the opportunities

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Speaker 1: So you would think those changes may have would have

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Speaker 1: so future episode. But speaking of soccer from now, oh

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Speaker 1: I love that for some people, this apparently is better

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Speaker 1: They were fine eighty one thousand, three hundred dollars after

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Speaker 1: they filled their stands with sex dolls to add to

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Speaker 1: mannequins that were installed during the game on the seventeenth.

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Speaker 1: They claim that they checked to make sure that they

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Speaker 1: league said the team quote could have easily recognized their

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Speaker 1: use using common sense and experience. And experience, I just

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Speaker 1: talking about this off Mike. I get I didn't know

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Speaker 1: they were advertising. I have a problem there. But otherwise,

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Speaker 1: it's a difficult one to women in politics. With some

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Speaker 1: Um As of this month, four hundred and ninety women

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Speaker 1: which out does last year's record of four hundred and

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Speaker 1: women will be jumping on this political train. Yes. With that,

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Speaker 1: there are at least ten congressional districts that have an

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Speaker 1: many people are eagerly waiting to see Joe Biden's pick

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Speaker 1: they come from? Should they be immoderate? So it's definitely

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Speaker 1: comes to Joe Biden and Tara Read. So tar Read

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Speaker 1: alleges that Joe Biden has sexually assaulted her in three

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big conversation. And I know I

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Speaker 1: But first we have one more ker break for a

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Speaker 1: word from respons there and we're back, Thank you sponsor,

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Speaker 1: and we're back, unfortunately with some more stories from about

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Speaker 1: murders of people from the black community, and we really

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk specifically about Brianna Taylor. So yeah, as

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Speaker 1: we record this, it's the end of May. Um and

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Speaker 1: our hearts have been really shredded to see the continued

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Speaker 1: violence and murder of the black community. And there's so

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Speaker 1: many incidents that it seems never ending. But one in

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Speaker 1: murder Brionna Taylor, who was an e MT Essential worker.

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Speaker 1: Brionna and her boyfriend were home on the couch on

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Speaker 1: March thirteenth when police with a no knock warrant came

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Speaker 1: into the home and after exchanging gunfire, shot and killed

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Speaker 1: Brionna Taylor. Law enforcement was granted that warrant with bad

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Speaker 1: information of a possible drug dealer living and receiving packages

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Speaker 1: in the home, which later we found out that not

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Speaker 1: only did that man not live there, not already been

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Speaker 1: there in months, but he was already in jail. Originally,

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Speaker 1: Brionned his boyfriend Kenneth Walker, had been charged with attempted

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Speaker 1: murder for shooting one of the officers in the leg

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Speaker 1: but eventually the charge was dismissed as not only defending

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Speaker 1: of his home, but that he had a license for

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Speaker 1: that weapon right UM. And the story of her death

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Speaker 1: didn't actually make it nationwide until after the murder of

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Speaker 1: Ahmed Aubrey, who was gunned down in South Georgia while

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Speaker 1: on a jog, and many questions have risen as to

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Speaker 1: why her death is not being as loudly talked about

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Speaker 1: as some of the others. And although comparing murder cases

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Speaker 1: seems fairly insensitive and please understand, there's no good and

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Speaker 1: there in all of this deserves all the attention UM,

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Speaker 1: many including her family, are asking what makes her case

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Speaker 1: different UM. And there have been many who speculated because

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Speaker 1: there was no video of her being shot, that it

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Speaker 1: didn't engage viewers or the community as much. But Brittney Cooper,

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Speaker 1: writer and co editor of The Feminist Collection, tweeted recently

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Speaker 1: quote I'm thinking this morning of hashtag Brianna Taylor and

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Speaker 1: the comparative lack of outrage about this black woman e

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Speaker 1: m T an essential worker being killed in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the pandemic. I'm thinking it's much easier to access

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Speaker 1: our rage over hashtag George Floyd UM the man who

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Speaker 1: was recently murdered in Minnesota. The killing of a black

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Speaker 1: man by cops of the threatening of their lives by

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Speaker 1: lying white women fits the lynching narrative hand in glove.

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Speaker 1: Those brothers were targeted hunted in US since and black

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Speaker 1: women victims of state violence are seen as the unfortunate

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Speaker 1: collateral damage on the other hand, and Brittany Cooper goes

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Speaker 1: on in her thread writing quote, this is why you

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Speaker 1: need black feminist theorists because the gender thing here is

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Speaker 1: about public space as typically seen as domain for men

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Speaker 1: but not black men, and how private space and I

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Speaker 1: would interject something like Holmes and etcetera is seen as

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Speaker 1: the domain of women but not Black women. So I

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Speaker 1: think she definitely hits onto some of the questions of

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Speaker 1: why does this look different UM. And then of course

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Speaker 1: Sandra Bland came into the conversation as well, which there

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Speaker 1: was also videotape and her unfortunate death not too long ago,

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Speaker 1: and the conversation is what is the difference and build

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Speaker 1: up UM, And that kind of territorial idea about space

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Speaker 1: and where they belong does have a big conversation of

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Speaker 1: why we need first of all, intersectional feminism. But why

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Speaker 1: we need to take the lead of black women and

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Speaker 1: black feminists in this time. Absolutely. Um. Now we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk about a few COVID related things, starting with

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Speaker 1: one that my phone loves updating me about every day. Um.

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Speaker 1: Women leaders during the time of the pandemic? Are they better?

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Speaker 1: As the pandemic continues to affect the lives of people

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Speaker 1: all around the world, we see what a difference leadership

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Speaker 1: can have. Oh, yes, we do, specifically women lad nations.

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Speaker 1: Just this month again it's the end of May, New

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Speaker 1: Zealand was able to say that they had no current

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Speaker 1: hospital stations for COVID nineteen and has not had any

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Speaker 1: new cases in the last few days. Wow. Prime Minister

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Speaker 1: just Sinda Ardern has been highly praised for her active

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Speaker 1: persistence in containing the virus. And also if I about

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Speaker 1: two years ago it spent he did a whole episode

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Speaker 1: on just Sinda Ardurn, so go check that out if

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Speaker 1: you'd like. And also she was holding a press conference

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Speaker 1: recently in which an earthquake occurred. Chilling, She's just chilling,

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Speaker 1: no worries. I think it's fantastic. Um. And as one

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Speaker 1: I saw a tweet today that said, Uh, New Zealand

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Speaker 1: didn't just flatten the curve, they crushed it. And I

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Speaker 1: thought it was yes, yes, And honestly, she is not

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Speaker 1: the only one. Many of the female led countries have

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Speaker 1: been able to better contain the virus than others. Countries

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Speaker 1: like Germany with leader Angelo Markel was able to fast

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Speaker 1: track testing and it has one of the highest numbers

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Speaker 1: of testing and turn around in the world. Honestly, And

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Speaker 1: we have Taiwan's president sighing when who with her VP

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Speaker 1: has been able to place travel restrictions as well as

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Speaker 1: health checks very quickly. And it should be noted in

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Speaker 1: a population of twenty three million people, they have had

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Speaker 1: less than five cases and under ten deaths. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And there are a lot of arguments about why this

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Speaker 1: is and how much we can uh extractly, especially because

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Speaker 1: there's sort of a low pool number to choose from

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Speaker 1: because there are less female leaders around the world. Um,

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Speaker 1: and it's arguments I've also been made that it's not

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Speaker 1: necessarily that women are better leaders, although headlines do indicate

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Speaker 1: the calm reactions slash pro actions are big factors, but

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Speaker 1: that men are having to prove their strength and leadership

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Speaker 1: and have to look tough, I'm strong, while women are

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Speaker 1: under the same pressure and are being seen as more

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Speaker 1: compassionate and understanding as opposed to the no questions asked,

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Speaker 1: authoritarian method right, and something you wound speculate that it

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Speaker 1: could actually be harmful to place such expectations on female leaders.

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Speaker 1: Um as quoted from an article written in Vox where

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Speaker 1: they quoted Kelly Didmar, a professor of political science at

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Speaker 1: the Center of American Women in Politics, quote making the

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Speaker 1: generalization that women are always better at handling crisis like

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Speaker 1: the coronavirus runs the risk of essentially setting a trap

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Speaker 1: for female leaders. They're expected to perform better than men,

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Speaker 1: so when they do well, it's just business as usual,

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Speaker 1: and when they do run into trouble, whether it's with

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Speaker 1: the pandemic or some other challenge, the criticism of them

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Speaker 1: might be greater. And Denmark said again because the expectations

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Speaker 1: set is that they're supposed to be better than the guys,

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Speaker 1: which we've actually discussed previously in many episodes, that the

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Speaker 1: bars are so much higher with expectations that women can

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Speaker 1: do this, and so therefore they just move on instead

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Speaker 1: of crediting the fact, Oh, this is a big deal right, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is um. And finally, we want to give a

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Speaker 1: huge shout out to Costa Rica which has become the

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Speaker 1: first Central American country to legalize same sex marriages. Costa

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Speaker 1: Rica has become the twenty you in member state to

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Speaker 1: recognize same sex marriages. And the acceleration for this wonderful

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Speaker 1: moment had to be postponed. They were able to broadcast

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Speaker 1: the union of Bride's Alexandra Quiros and Junia Aya, so

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Speaker 1: congratulations to them and to Costa Rica. So I ended

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Speaker 1: on a positive note. We try to add good things

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Speaker 1: um as with the horrible things. Yeah, you know, we

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Speaker 1: try to give a little taste so it's not overwhelming. Um.

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Speaker 1: And if we missed any good things or anything's at all,

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Speaker 1: please let us know. You can email us at Steph Media,

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Speaker 1: mom Stuff at i heeart media dot com. You can

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast or on

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Speaker 1: to your superproducer Andrew Howard. Thanks Andrew, Thanks to you

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