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Speaker 4: Did you see what they are? Now?

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Speaker 1: Transactivists have a new name for the vagina. Imist have

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Speaker 1: penises and women have vaginas. As we memorably learned in kindergarten.

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Speaker 4: I tell you, I told you that you told me,

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Speaker 1: Well, if they're already talking about men who menstru weight

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Speaker 1: I can't make this up. The new word for vagina

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Speaker 1: A bonus hole? Good luck with that. If you're, if you're,

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Speaker 4: the end here, Clay, you're you're, you're, you're on your own, buddy.

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Speaker 4: You are my fast food connoisseur. Yes, to be fair,

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Speaker 5: So there are certain choices that you can make in life,

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Speaker 4: You know, you say in the book you get into resilience.

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Speaker 4: One more for you. God, you know, I'm getting a

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Speaker 5: Oh my goodness, you know what. I think that probably

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Speaker 5: Look, the research is mixed. I mean, some people say

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Speaker 4: The sad truth about happiness. God sad is the author.

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Speaker 1: We bring in now our friend Adam Corolla, star comedian

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Speaker 1: podcast host Adam. We got a bunch of stuff to

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Speaker 1: hit you with. Let's start here. You're out in California,

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Speaker 3: If you think of it from a scientific standpoint, then you.

432
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Speaker 4: Get confused and can you weigh in on something really

433
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Speaker 4: important for us? Oudam? It's actually getting real political attention

434
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 4: because there was a hearing on Capitol Hill. Clay and

435
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Speaker 4: I have been going back and forth here. I'm not

436
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Speaker 4: saying that Clay has been abducted by aliens, but he

437
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Speaker 4: certainly leaves open the possibility that he may tell us

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Speaker 4: one day because he's a believer. Where do you come

439
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Speaker 4: down on the UFO stuff? You know, last week Capitol

440
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Speaker 4: Hill had hearings on this. They had some guy under

441
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Speaker 4: oath say they pulled bodies out of a UFO. I mean,

442
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Speaker 4: did you see that. You know what I'm talking about?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, I like to look at it as a

445
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Speaker 3: little more of a sociological experiment because I'm a little

446
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Speaker 3: older than you guys, and I remember living through the

447
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 3: seventies and it was NonStop UFO talk. Every third TV

448
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Speaker 3: show was Leonard Nimoy nir Rates and who really built

449
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Speaker 3: the Pyramids? And it was we were obsessed with UFOs

450
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Speaker 3: all through the seventies. And now, for the first time,

451
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Speaker 3: we seem to have real proof there were UFOs and

452
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Speaker 3: are UFOs, and nobody cares. And the thing that's insane.

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Speaker 3: If you would have got hold of me in nineteen

454
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Speaker 3: seventy seven it said, we have real hardcore proof there's UFOs.

455
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Speaker 3: I would say the world would stop and everyone would

456
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Speaker 3: go outside their house and look into the skies. We

457
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Speaker 3: would cease having arguments about politics or sports or anything,

458
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Speaker 3: and we'd all go right to the UFOs. And it's

459
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: because we're such insane narcissists now that we're all staring

460
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: down at our phones instead of looking at from this guy,

461
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 3: you can't even get people's imagination into the stuff. You

462
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Speaker 3: can't talk into it because we're such intense narcissists that

463
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Speaker 3: it's not about us, it's about the heavens and nobody cares,

464
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Speaker 3: which is insane.

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Speaker 1: Adam Croler, we're talking with him Now you've got a

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Speaker 1: comedy camp coming up with Jay Leno. I'm curious what

467
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Speaker 1: the vibe when you talk to your comedian friends as

468
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Speaker 1: we get ready for twenty twenty four. They all lost

469
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Speaker 1: their mind over Trump. Now we're gonna potentially come up

470
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Speaker 1: with four years of Biden and nothing really has changed.

471
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Speaker 4: It's not like things have gotten back to normal in

472
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Speaker 4: the country in any way.

473
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Speaker 1: Is there a closet, Hey, We're done with this whole

474
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Speaker 1: Democrat cancel culture, anti comedy bit that you hear even

475
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Speaker 1: from people who are afraid of offending right some of

476
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Speaker 1: their audience that might be more liberal. What's the vibe

477
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Speaker 1: in the comedic community as we get ready for twenty four?

478
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Speaker 1: Would it be all hands on deck, everybody ridicules Trump

479
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Speaker 1: or do you think the comedians may just actually try

480
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Speaker 1: to make people laugh as opposed to being political stooges.

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, Biden being a complete s show

482
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Speaker 3: and Trump being out office and then of course them

483
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Speaker 3: being wrong about all things. COVID has kind of tempered

484
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 3: them a little bit, like it's tamped them down because

485
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 3: they have crazed egos and they think they're right about everything,

486
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Speaker 3: but they don't possess any discernible skills, but they will

487
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Speaker 3: ramp it back up if Trump starts getting near the

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Speaker 3: White House. There's no doubt about that. Although there's another

489
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Speaker 3: comedic community, mostly out of New York that is a

490
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Speaker 3: vergeoning community that has basically pushed against all the political

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Speaker 3: correctness and are doing their own thing. They're not they

492
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,880
Speaker 3: don't need Netflix anymore, they don't need HBO anymore. They're

493
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Speaker 3: using YouTube to release their specials. So, just like anything,

494
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Speaker 3: it has created a sort of counter culture group, which

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Speaker 3: I'm happy for.

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Speaker 4: Are you going to or have you seen Adam Barbie

497
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Speaker 4: so that you can at least comment on it for

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Speaker 4: the purposes of comedy and your work.

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Speaker 3: I I spoke to my daughter and her friends. They're seventeen,

500
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Speaker 3: they've seen it. They didn't really care for it. And

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Speaker 3: I've talked to a few people just from a comedic standpoint,

502
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 3: like how funny is this movie? And they didn't give

503
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Speaker 3: it a very high mark in the in the comedy department.

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Speaker 3: But that's all that's all I got on Barbie.

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Speaker 4: What about Jay Leno?

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Speaker 1: You know you see this like comedy everybody shut down

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Speaker 1: because the writer strike I saw, I saw they said

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Speaker 1: that they weren't going to have a host of the

509
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Speaker 1: espis because they didn't have writers. I don't know if

510
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: you saw this, and I was like, they actually had

511
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Speaker 1: writers for the ESPIS. I didn't think it was that

512
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Speaker 1: funny in the first place. What are you doing with

513
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Speaker 1: Jay Leno? What are you trying to teach?

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Speaker 4: What's the plan?

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Speaker 3: Well? I talked to the guy who's been running the

516
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Speaker 3: rock and Roll Fantasy Camp for twenty five years and

517
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Speaker 3: it's a great success. People get to sort of lift

518
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Speaker 3: their dreams out with the rock and roll legends. And

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Speaker 3: I just said to him, why not a comedy fantasy.

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Speaker 5: Camp like that baseball?

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Speaker 3: They have rock and roll? What about comedy? And he

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Speaker 3: just said, that's a great idea, and it'll be stand

523
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Speaker 3: up comedians. It'll also be guys who run sitcoms, guys

524
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Speaker 3: who write on sitcoms, guys who write on late night shows,

525
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: you know, showrunners, show creators, all things comedy. So if

526
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Speaker 3: you want and peek behind the curtain, then you just

527
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Speaker 3: go to Comedy Fantasycamp dot com. And it's basically the

528
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Speaker 3: same as rock and Roll Fantasy Camp for Baseball. Fantasy

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Speaker 3: Camp Comedy.

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Speaker 4: Super cool idea. Yeah, comedy fantasycamp dot com. Everybody go

531
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Speaker 4: check it out. Also check out the Adam Carolla podcast. Adam,

532
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Speaker 4: always appreciate you hanging out with us. Thanks for calling

533
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Speaker 4: in today.

534
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure, guys. Keep up the good work.

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Speaker 4: Thank you, sir. I would that sounds that sounds doesn't

536
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: that sound kind of cool?

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Speaker 1: I mean for people if you grew up watching Adam

538
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 1: Corolla back in the day, or you watched Jay Leno

539
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: and they're gonna show you kind of behind the scenes

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Speaker 1: how the comedic industry works.

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Speaker 4: I mean that that sounds pretty fun. Honestly. It's also

542
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: good for people, I think, to try to write comedy

543
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 4: because or to do it in it cause it's really

544
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Speaker 4: really hard. Like this is the thing you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think you have an even greater appreciation for it

546
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: when you've gone to sit down, because people will watch

547
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Speaker 4: something really funny on TV. They're like, I'm a funny guy.

548
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: I'm a funny guy in real life. I could write, Yeah,

549
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 4: it's actually very difficult to write really good comedy and

550
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Speaker 4: to produce that with any efficiency and over any length

551
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Speaker 4: of time. Well that doesn't taken at all, but no, no,

552
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 4: but you have to figure out I mean, I think

553
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,560
Speaker 4: this is to tie it in politically. I think the

554
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 4: great skill of Trump is he is like a stand

555
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 4: up comic in that when he does his rallies, and

556
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 4: this is why I think his political campaigns are so

557
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 4: much more successful.

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Speaker 1: When he's out and about doing all these rallies, he

559
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Speaker 1: will talk like he talked for what an hour and

560
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: forty minutes in Erie, Pennsylvania, and he basically tries out

561
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Speaker 1: arguments and based on what the crowd responds to, he

562
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Speaker 1: refines his stump speech and figures out intuitively what the

563
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Speaker 1: audience is responding to and then uses that to guide

564
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Speaker 1: his political tenets. It's almost like a real time, live

565
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Speaker 1: poll that he is conducting of his audience. I think

566
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Speaker 1: it's it's really fascinating to see the way he interplays

567
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Speaker 1: and works with that.

568
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Speaker 4: Trump is funny. I'm trying to think of of another

569
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 4: politician that an adjective that comes to mind about him

570
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Speaker 4: or her is funny.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

572
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Speaker 4: They're not that many that I think of. As you

573
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Speaker 4: think of any politicians.

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Speaker 1: It's a great question. Somebody who could make you. I

575
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: think Chris may be a little bit funny.

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Speaker 4: Thomas Massey, Congressman. Massy is funny. Yeah, you know he

577
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: makes funny. I've heard him say funny things. I'm trying

578
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Speaker 4: to not a lot. They're not a lot of funny politicians.

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Speaker 1: I think it self selects in some ways. Bucket, to

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Speaker 1: your point, Cruise is funny.

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Speaker 4: Is Ted Cruise is funny and he does a lot

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Speaker 4: of serious stuff. But if you actually just get Ted

583
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Speaker 4: Cruz away from the mic, he's pretty funny.

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Speaker 1: I think politics self selects for people who take themselves

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Speaker 1: very seriously, and so it tends to not overlap that

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Speaker 1: much with having strong comedic sensibilities.

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Speaker 4: If that makes sense. Yeah, I mean, you know Mitt

588
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Speaker 4: Romney doing stand up That is for a lot of people.

589
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Speaker 4: The end of day's scenario. You know you're just sitting there.

590
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Speaker 4: MIT's up there. Anyway, we'll get back into more. That

591
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Speaker 4: takes some of your calls to close us out. Also,

592
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Speaker 4: if you've seen that clayonbuck dot com the bear video,

593
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Speaker 4: I'm not saying that paid off or they're part of

594
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Speaker 4: the big you know, the bear unit party or whatever.

595
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Speaker 4: But our staff in New York are all saying the

596
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Speaker 4: bear is real, that the that the Malayan sun Bear

597
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Speaker 4: is not a man in a costume. I'm not I'm

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Speaker 4: just not counting it out. I'm not saying it. I

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Speaker 4: think Bear has.

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Speaker 1: Gotten I think Big Bears gotten to our audience in

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Speaker 1: U in New York City.

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Speaker 4: I just I don't know if I can trust him

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Speaker 4: anymore